Midi VS Instrument Tracks : Which ones should you use?

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  • On this video, I answer one of the most common asked questions about Cubase midi and instrument tracks. And clear up some common misconceptions too ;)
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  • @DystinktBeats
    @DystinktBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Instrument track!! 💯💯💯 “Keep your life simpler”

  • @PatrickLenkMusic
    @PatrickLenkMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    You became my number one cubase tutorial guy really fast and helped me tons already. Just wanted to say thank you :)

    • @rdru2ner82
      @rdru2ner82 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Greg is still the best!!!

    • @matrixate
      @matrixate 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree.

  • @mitchiemasha
    @mitchiemasha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Don't forget... if one sets up their Hardware as a Cubase "External Instrument", there's no need to use Midi tracks at all. The Hardware will load as an instrument track, Midi and Audio combined, in realtime (if you set it up right).

    • @awshusham6302
      @awshusham6302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dont worry he don’t know what you talking about , cheers 🥂

    • @vegsozoltan5283
      @vegsozoltan5283 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you use the external instrument as a Cubase Instrument if that is a multi timbral instrument? In this case you should use MIDI channels.

    • @mitchiemasha
      @mitchiemasha ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vegsozoltan5283 Cubase "External Instruments" works for multitimbral instruments too, but yes, you'd need midi tracks for the extra midi channels to route to the "master" instrument track for the external hardware.

  • @PanuAaltio
    @PanuAaltio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Just for fun I quickly benchmarked (very non-scientifically) single patch per instance vs. multitimbral on my AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X (32 cores, SMT disabled), using Omnisphere 2 in Nuendo 10.2.20. I picked Omnisphere, because anecdotally it seems like it has one of the highest per process overheads out of all my VST instruments, so it should provide a "worst case scenario" baseline.
    I loaded the first eight patches in the Omnisphere 2 default list and had them play a scale with 1/8s at 120. I kept duplicating the tracks until the machine would play no more, with ASIO Guard at high and my RME HSDPe AIO set to 512 samples.
    Results: multimbral Omnisphere capped at 136 patches. Single instances at 152. That's a 12% improvement in the single instances favor, which, while not huge, is still significant. However, I was expecting actually a bit more on my machine, given how much the CPU favors parallel workflows. Clearly the multitimbral Omnisphere utilizes multithreading quite well already.
    RAM usage doubled from 10GB to 20GB, so RAM is the currency with which you pay for this improved parallelization (and routing convenience). Calculating the RAM difference per instance here, there's roughly a 81MB RAM cost per instance of Omnisphere, so for each eight patches, you use an extra 567MB. That's quite high, so it's something to keep in mind.
    Maximum RAM is going up way faster than single thread perfomance in CPUs, so I agree with the idea that it's definitely time to consider leaving multitimbral workflows behind. The day to do that won't be here for every system yet, especially if you have a CPU with a lower core count and less RAM. But it's coming for sure.

    • @alphabetentertainment5873
      @alphabetentertainment5873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im happy with my omnisphere. Really happy.

    • @pr4vus.studios
      @pr4vus.studios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for this test, that's informative.

    • @3deoskill
      @3deoskill ปีที่แล้ว

      No one of us loads 152 instance of Omnisphere. So multitimbral has still his place....as he told in the video for instance for Groove Agent or multilayered Sounds in Halion Sonic

    • @andesneko
      @andesneko ปีที่แล้ว

      Going by your test, the best would be to have 2 or 3 instances and then do everything internally. Just a theory.

  • @arnorijpma6207
    @arnorijpma6207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If you use MIDI tracks, it is much more simple to change the entire instrument afterward. Your MIDI track is then assigned to an instrument instead of connected to it and fully integrated. Change an entire instrument on an instrument track is much more complex than with a MIDI track assigned to a Rack Instrument. So that is for me an important pro-MIDI track argument.

    • @williamshaneblyth
      @williamshaneblyth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      agreed , unfortunately there is something of an issue here if you have not made up your mind what instrument to use then if you change to something even relatively close but not the same then the way you play it often needs to change. For example a bass track. Many different acoustic or electric basses you need to play differently because of the way each responds to velocity or note duration these effect the way it sounds and often needs you to replay it again. So its really good to decide first what exact sound you are going to use so your MIDI is played in in a way , for example the piano you choose of bass responds. Of course you can do this later but rerecording a track. its small but important thing to keep in mind to help your work flow be as efficient as possible, Choice of sounds is extremally import in the final mix. planning as much as possible before can help. of course sometimes we may like to just wing completely but in that case at least having a good grasp of what sounds fit well in the mix can help so you grab good ones

  • @randallnielson2011
    @randallnielson2011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This topic had been confusing me for years - makes perfect sense now. Thanks, man.

  • @Vallosick
    @Vallosick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use midi channels for layering. For example I may create low and high layers of sound on synthesizers and then send midi channel to them so I don't need to always input midi on two channels.

  • @peterradd6836
    @peterradd6836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Greetings from Vegas Dom! There is great value in having both options - I use both MIDI and Instrument Tracks. So many Cubase users are doing cool creative projects - I do jingles, and often I have to work fast. In my situation, the drawbacks of using MIDI tracks with a frequently-used Multi-timbral synth (Halion Sonic, etc.) are overcome with preset templates. In other words - the template loads preset MIDI tracks, and audio pre-routed to preset Group Channels. (In my case - 4, labeled "drums", "bass", "keys", "guitar". I have 4 tracks in Halion preset and prerouted accordingly. Make sense? If i'm on a deadline, I know where to choose patches, and they are already routed.
    All that said - these days - there are SO many cool instruments out there, it's completely reasonable as you're saying in the video to use Instrument tracks. You're not going to use them on every project, and you're not likely to have them pre-loaded in your template.
    I think the bottom line is to be aware of both types, and be willing to use either depending on your workflow.

  • @SecondTierSound
    @SecondTierSound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I totally agree with you. But since you asked about ways I use instrument channels:
    I pretty much use one instrument track per patch/sound. But I have found that some libraries, like for example Hollywood orchestra, where you need several patches in one instrument (for example violins - could be up to 10 patches), I use expression maps in order to trigger various channels (one patch per midi channel).
    That is, only one instrument track and no midi channels in cubase, but the sampler (in this example "play") have several patches loaded, and each patch is dedicated to a midi channel. The old way was to then have several midi channels in cubase, connected to the instrument channel/rack, but now the map is instead controlling what sound is heard.
    I can either change the sound with keyswitches/controller, or I can change it in the key editor.
    I recently came across this trick and it is a massive time saver and workflow enhancer. For example, the violins could go from pizzicato to legato to marcato etc, and it is all controlled in the key editor with "articulations". Keyswitches are actually eliminated this way, it is faster, and no need for alignment and having midi notes in the score who are just there for the switching, but I can still control what sounds I want to hear with a controller if needed.
    This can be done with any sampler, and is very useful for any patch with no keyswitches built in. But so far this can only be done in Cubase as far as I know.

  • @malcolmhodgson7540
    @malcolmhodgson7540 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful discussion on separating the output channels. Loved the Groove Agent Trick! Gold level content once again!!

  • @silakanveli
    @silakanveli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    when you load one instance of VST instrument, Cubase will instantiate that instrument and reserver like 1.5GB memory. When you instantiate second VST instrument, it will reserver more memory. If you load one VST instrument, it will only instantiate memory once. Basically if you have tons of ram, you can just always instantiate new VST instrument, no need just basic midi tracks.

  • @pierreluniere
    @pierreluniere 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Again Dom! Nothing beats the access to all the plugin power of an audio track over a midi track. Greetings from Oz!
    I just went back over this a day later & assigning the kit to individual outs is a BONUS, thanks again!

  • @stephenhall1376
    @stephenhall1376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    SUPERB !! Many Thanks Dom. Sooooo many tutorials still opening midi tracks & racks, then routing, then grouping mix channels, really confusing when getting started. Very clear, very concise Dom. As always !!

  • @DavidComdico
    @DavidComdico 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Instrument tracks are faster but the rack is still useful for layering, to give one example. I've also had issues with multi-out instruments like Superior Drummer when not using the rack, so I just use it for all multi-out instruments. You can do some interesting things with midi tracks like use them for patterns using the step sequencer or as events that hold automation that can then be moved around the timeline easily. It can also be conceptually useful to think of a part as notes rather than locked into a sound. I like that Cubase offers such flexibility.

    • @BlazonStone
      @BlazonStone 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can multi output instrument tracks too

  • @synthplayer1563
    @synthplayer1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am totally with you. But I really miss that there is no easy way to convert them into each other (MIDI instrument). This is completely incomprehensible to me.

  • @javierpenya
    @javierpenya ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic Dom. Always learning new features and concepts with your videos and comments. Olé.

  • @paulmdevenney
    @paulmdevenney ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm never disappointed with these videos, there is always something to be learned! Now I understand the concept of "rack mounted" instruments (it seemed like an odd option). It makes far more sense with its historical context as "genuine virtual outboard midi gear" .

  • @J-DUB-F1
    @J-DUB-F1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much!........I need to watch this again.......and then again to absorb it all. I'm a real newbie to virtual instruments and midi. So much to learn!!

  • @randangoman
    @randangoman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for taking the time Dom!

  • @Steven-do2dp
    @Steven-do2dp ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey thanks! Very useful and I enjoyed your style of teaching, and, like you, I'm gonna continue to use Instrument Tracks a lot!!

  • @alanyost4061
    @alanyost4061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant and informative demo. Thanks Dom!

  • @harrison-lloyd2053
    @harrison-lloyd2053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Makes a lot of sense man! :-) There is a lot of "suggestions" in the production world that seems to just be information left over from the legacy days.

  • @tronlady1
    @tronlady1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is the most amazing intro track I have ever heard dom! It’s so exciting everytime I hear it 😍. I’ve just gone back to Cubase after years and years of neglecting it. I’ve never been able to fully get my head around it but I must say you have helped re-enthuse me. I loved your cc121 video and I was torn between that and a keyboard controller. I ended up getting a nektar P6 and it’s taking some getting used to.....but I think it’s going to be really good. I have about three albums worth of unfinished stuff on nuendo 2 (yes lol) that I was going to re-do on an akai force! Instead I’ve managed to get Cubase 5 up n running so I’m bringing them all into that 😍

  • @murtza.rehman
    @murtza.rehman ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is so promising with good content. Intro gets me pumped up. Wish you good luck for your channel.

  • @RayinStirling
    @RayinStirling 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dom, you’ve done it again. I know all about instrument versus midi track but..........reminding me of the GA mixer to Cubase that I had forgotten about. I gave myself a slap.
    So many years as a semi pro dabbler and never really spending enough time on individual beneficial tweaks. At last I learn the right way. Cheers

  • @Notmehimorthem
    @Notmehimorthem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I build large orchestral templates. I halion\kontakt per track. I agree with you. It would also be so good if the track name would take the name of the preset it allocated to by default. This could be an option in preferences “default track name takes preset name” . Also additionally the actual sound being played I.e. the name of the preset or even its full articulation name could be seen in the track., not just in the tiny expression map panel but clealrly in the project window so when the track is stopped the cursor position might show “staccato” . So much time is spent typing in track names simply calling them by the preset names in most cases.

  • @bthellam
    @bthellam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this, Dom. I have had that question in the back of my mind about using MIDI tracks and since I don't use outboard instruments besides guitars, I now know I don't need to worry about it!

  • @DocTheGuitar
    @DocTheGuitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos have been really helpful, thank you

  • @PedroVercesi
    @PedroVercesi ปีที่แล้ว

    I have seen many videos on this subject, but yours is the best by far.

  • @HansK_777
    @HansK_777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really helpful and concisely explained. Thanks!

  • @mrrobot7185
    @mrrobot7185 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    brilliant video Dom. i've always wondwered about this. i use instrument tracks most of the time, and in fact midi tracks very rarely nowadays. Usually only use midi tracks if i'm importing a midi drum groove form a 3rd party developer - although not exclusively.

  • @mjbabyboy79
    @mjbabyboy79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been a Cubase user for 6 years and always thought that Groove Agent would be pointless for me, so thank you for that output tip, I can now see it becoming a part of my work flow

  • @musicmaniac1949
    @musicmaniac1949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video...it cleared up a lot. I tend to use the rack feature only when I'm starting a project and I'm 'sketching' an initial arrangement and just want a Halion instrument with a preset containing basic instruments; Drums, bass, piano, etc.. I then put the drums into Groove Agent and select different instruments and put them on instrument tracks. So I don't really use the rack feature any longer.
    The one thing I was not aware of was the quick way you assigned the drums, with names, to each output. I always did the slow, tedious way. It made the whole video worth the watch. Since I've been using Cubase since VST32, I tend to miss some subtle improvements that are great time savers. Thx.

  • @enriquematiasreimermillan5120
    @enriquematiasreimermillan5120 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation, Dom. Very useful!!!

  • @JimTheComposer
    @JimTheComposer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! Since I started with Cubase many years ago I was using one instance of HAlion Sonic. Now based on your advice I' changing my project to have one per track. I also was using MIDI tracks and now using Instrument tracks. Great advice especially for Groove Agent SE outputs.

  • @tonescapes9673
    @tonescapes9673 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers my man,always easy to understand.

  • @MrZooBreak
    @MrZooBreak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Dom! Another great tutorial!

  • @HowlingUlf
    @HowlingUlf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You can load a HALion (Sonic) full of the same sound in several slots with variation you've made and then use an expression map to switch between MIDI channels in one instance you have on screen all the time. You can have one big phat Anima (or Trium or SkyLab or ... n), or one thin one with some hi pass filter, one with some flanger or chorus super stereo etc.. It's less of a hassle to my brain to have the variations in one plugin unit but everybody's different.
    In the same manner you can save a little orchestra with leads, pads and basses as a template if you save the sounds as a bank. Then you're ready to go in a similar project.
    I don't like the mess in the inspector with both MIDI and audio inserts sends and whathaveyou. It's hard to teach an old dog to shit! :D
    There are benefits of both ways so I use both. Monotimbral VSTi:s I sometimes use Intrument Tracks for like most bass tracks only need one.
    Maybe I should have more of a method to my madness? 🙃😂

  • @AnthonyWatsonMWArts
    @AnthonyWatsonMWArts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again, Dom! This was the clearest explanation I've seen. Having used Cubase all the way back to Steinberg VST on an Atari, I have some long ingrained habits and have been averse to switching from rack instruments to instrument tracks. You have led me to see the light!

    • @schragemusik
      @schragemusik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. Exactly.

    • @Sesaon3
      @Sesaon3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Snap! Though I changed about 2 weeks ago. Haven't seen any CPU issues and the flexibility is so much better. Goodbye MIDI track you served me well :-) Actually MIDI tracks can be useful for sending controller commands to multiple instruments using MIDI sends.

  • @peterleese2040
    @peterleese2040 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great informative video. Thanks Dom.

  • @itchy572003
    @itchy572003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work Dom! I have used instrument tracks from the time I started using Cubase. As yet I have not had a problem with overloading the CPU at all. It is so much easier to use multiple instances of Halion or Halion Sonic or Groove Agent. There is too much to think about if you use midi tracks!

  • @austinhaynesmusic
    @austinhaynesmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation and video. I still use Rack Instruments when using Vienna Ensemble Pro because I like to freely move the outputs next to each one of my midi channels in the arrange window. The Instrument track locks the outputs all to it so the additional midi tracks (channels 2-16) can not have the outputs next to them (midi track 2, output 2, etc). I like to have them next to each midi track so I can do automation in the arrange window and such. I think when one just wants a single instrument, instrument tracks are great because the midi and audio are together as a hybrid but for VE PRO environments with multi-timbral it doesn't quite work as well for me.

  • @harrispappas6292
    @harrispappas6292 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dom Great videos ! Cubase users should be verryyyyyy happy about this channel! Greeting from GR! Keep it up!

  • @SwDiwano
    @SwDiwano 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info as always. I use a 32 channel halion 6 sampler midi rack filled with my fav sounds. I have lots of converted EMU, Ensoniq & Giga lib patches that I still use. Then ASAP I render the parts 2 audio, so I don’t have to assign multi outputs. Love that Halion

  • @macdaddybender
    @macdaddybender 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Dom, great advice as always. I'm basically a novice. I use outboard gear and soft synths but usually only one patch per synth so instrument tracks are fine. Where I do vary is with drum machines like Battery. I'll have one instance of Battery and one midi track for each drum sound, then when I'm happy with the arrangement I bounce to audio. I'm sure I'm probably missing a trick and could simplify but I do like each drum sound in its own midi track.

  • @SchleimerComics
    @SchleimerComics 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love those little explanation bubbles

  • @johnmac8084
    @johnmac8084 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks Dom. Just learning Cubase and was wondering about this.

  • @filmmusiccomposer
    @filmmusiccomposer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely enjoy working with Instrument tracks more than MIDI for the same reasons you highlighted!

  • @KOISANX
    @KOISANX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simple answer - create templates - the number of steps (midi tracks) is done once. I use both because sometimes you need midi only e.g. Original groove agent or having visual cues on the arrangement page (not as nice if embedded within several takes of single instrument track)

  • @truthseeker630
    @truthseeker630 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very very helpful; thanks for this one!

  • @liortal44
    @liortal44 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot. This questions bothered me for years.

  • @mikemccormick1624
    @mikemccormick1624 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, Dom. Love your videos and have learned a lot from watching them. Thanks for posting!
    This video asks a question I have wondered about for a long time. I too come from the olden days when one tried everything one could find to save computer resources. And the reason you are giving here for performance gains is that using multiple instances of multitimbral plugins like HALion and/or Kontakt allows the spread of different instruments to multiple cores or, more appropriately, to additional single cores. However, in looking this up on the Steinberg and Native instruments websites it shows that a single instance of both HALion and Kontakt can indeed use multiple cores. So I wonder if this changes anything in regards to this specific reason you use multiple instances of HALion, etc.
    Thanks again for the great work!

  • @sanderradder4802
    @sanderradder4802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use midi tracks to automate some elements in fabfilter plugins.
    I also use separate midi channels for some other data besides notes. A lot of times when creating, it's very convenient to have some extra track that only does the cutoff frequency or some other parameter. I use a lot of outboard gear. So in the end, tracks are merged. The cpr is exported as a midi file and imported in the MPC. It plays all synths and modules and sets the effect processor to the desired program. In a few cases I exported some audio as well and used that in the sampler, but sinds it's the intention to play and sing along live, I only use that for drum loops and strange effect samples.
    You don't need to activate the audiotracks per se, if you assign outputs in the plugin, they will be activated automatically.

  • @yadinmichaeli12
    @yadinmichaeli12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really helpful tutorial thank you very much

  • @artgamir8021
    @artgamir8021 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to use midi chanels as an old user of Cubase. Thaks for the update!

  • @hopestudiotz
    @hopestudiotz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You saved my life today!
    Thank you very much for this tutorial!

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear that! :) :) :)

  • @matmanshoots
    @matmanshoots 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, i dont comment often, but very good video! you just got yourself a new subscriber! very helpful info!!

  • @patrickytting
    @patrickytting 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    One crucial piece of info here is that for those who load lots of tracks in templates - the disable track feature is useful. Nothing is active but all tracks can be ready at your fingertips without having to add tracks repeatedly in every big project.

    • @firmans12
      @firmans12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man how do I insert a vsti if I import a midi track i create with other software.
      Bcs in cubase it is created as midi track, since you need instrument track to play the midi

    • @patrickytting
      @patrickytting 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@firmans12 Two ways I can think of would be - select "Destination" to be instrument tracks in the import options. See the help here for more info:
      steinberg.help/cubase_ai/v10/en/cubase_nuendo/topics/importing_audio_and_midi/importing_audio_and_midi_import_options_for_midi_files_r.html
      Otherwise, just create instrument track, and then drag the midi events you imported over to that track from the midi track and delete the midi track afterwards. Hope that helps.

  • @danreavey2062
    @danreavey2062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Useful vid, thanks. I use Cubase Elements for VSTi projects and use individual instrument tracks. I don’t really need any more than the 24 tracks included but could always use the midi track/rack instrument method if needed.

  • @skylightmusicshowree
    @skylightmusicshowree 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Dom!
    In the main, I prefer to use Instruments as Tracks, but the whole 'Track v Rack' approach depends on individual workflow preferences. I know that for opening old projects and multi-timbral MIDI files (especially old GM Atari ones) you would be faster using a rack instrument to load.
    MIDI tracks by themselves can be used to record Sysex data dumps from external hardware, to control external FX units with MIDI (such as Reverbs and Delays) and for triggering Plug-ins like Stutter Edit, Vocal synth and Break Tweaker from Izotope (to name a few). In addition to all of this, I understand that you can even control a lighting rig with MIDI!
    Thanks for the video :-)

  • @jarek_
    @jarek_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dom, as usually great video and tips.

  • @yams900
    @yams900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Dom ! I will follow your way of doing things, let's keep it simple, why complicate :) I'm using MIDI for my Yamaha PSR-SX900 and Yamaha P515. Thank you for sharing !

  • @playmakersmusic
    @playmakersmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much, Dom! Will be sticking to instrument channel. Seems the most logical for me at this moment.

  • @urmum1337
    @urmum1337 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tis was very helpful, thank you kindly.

  • @viwesvideos
    @viwesvideos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks dude this was superhelpfull!!

  • @shekcontrebb
    @shekcontrebb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Helps a Lot! Thank you : )

  • @jeweledlotus714
    @jeweledlotus714 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you! Been using Cubase for 20 years didn't realize the new way was better

  • @yousefp3591
    @yousefp3591 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    After almost 20 years of screwing around with FL, I'm finally here 😊 really helpful this guy. Love his enthusiasm

  • @sixstring3639
    @sixstring3639 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info Dom!

  • @eljodioerrante
    @eljodioerrante ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial. Thanks

  • @peterranallo
    @peterranallo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Dom , thanks for the great advice . I just realized that I uselessly use multiple rack instruments and probably waste cpu power. I am switching over to instrument . All you videos are really helpful. I use your tricks daily,. Thank you.

  • @HT0011
    @HT0011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Dom. I do use Inst track with software sinths except when i m doing arrangements and final instrument is not finally defined. It is easy for an A /B comparison.

  • @jerilynclawson6827
    @jerilynclawson6827 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another awesome video Dom. Thank you! However, I am not able to figure out how to make the physical and soft connections using my MODX, Focusrite Scarlet 18i20 and Cubase via USB on my PC in order to be able to use Instrument Tracks. I think the problem is in the MIDI connections because I cant seem to get a MIDI signal in Cubase from neither the VST or from the Focusrite or from the MODX. I have tried to figure this out for weeks now. And yes, I am pretty new to Cubase and to the MODX and the Focusrite (trifecta of new equipment has me spinning in circles). Basically, I want to record into Cubase from the MODX (using the multi-channel connection so I can see and control the individual parts from a multi-part voice in the MODX), and the accoustic guitar, electric guitars, vocals, and drums (drums on mics) using the Focusrite, not necessarily at the same time but without having to change connections all the time. I can make the connection between Cubase and the MODX (USB). And I can setup the mics for recording the drums and the vocals, and elect/acoustic guitars to Cubase through the interface. I can even connect the audio outs L+R on the MODX to the interface and record audio from the MODX through the Focusrite (but this is only records L+R and does not allow multi-channel recording from the MODX like it does when connecting the MODX directly to the PC (using the interface that is included with the MODX). I would appreciate it DOM if you could make a video regarding this as I know you use the Montage_MODX and also an audio interface. Or if anyone could post information, I would sincerely appreciate it. I apologize if this is not the forum to ask and do not mean to offend anyone. Thank you.

  • @hazmatproduction4562
    @hazmatproduction4562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You don’t have to load instruments into the rack for multi out instruments anymore.
    Since about Cubase 8 or 9 the instrument tracks were overhauled to handle multi timbral instruments. You can add additional outputs to an instrument track now & just add MIDI tracks to route MIDI to the additional instruments in Halion or whatever sampler you are using

  • @valleyken
    @valleyken ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. I had not even thought about those differences. I mainly used instrument tracks so far. I really like the tip about routing Groove Agent to different tracks. Thx Dom.

    • @valleyken
      @valleyken ปีที่แล้ว

      Heads up:
      - for those who like to route the Groove Agent individual sounds to different output tracks (as shown in the video) ... This only works when you use drumsets from "The Kit Se".
      - If you use a different kit (for example Beat Agent), then the "Export mixer to Cubase" will be missing from the menu.

  • @sirlordcomixx1
    @sirlordcomixx1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info given, the section at Export mixer to Cubase , I will find very useful.

  • @jfbarbosaboro
    @jfbarbosaboro ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your channel could easily become an entire grad school music production program. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge!

  • @nasa16816
    @nasa16816 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Dom .....really nice and clear....you stay safe!

    • @DomSigalas
      @DomSigalas  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, you too!

  • @JoseVGavila
    @JoseVGavila 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting, thanks for the clear explanation, Dom. I am also on the instrument tracks wagon :-)

  • @treynash
    @treynash 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's really convenient to have Groove Agent as a VST instrument and export a kit's mix to Cubase. One drawback that I have found is that the audio channel for the kick, for example, cannot be "ungrouped" or moved out from under the VST instrument. This is inconvenient in the mixer if you have downstream group channels or FX channels associated with it and you would like to group them together in the mixer view. For example, say you add an FX channel with a sine wave generator to add a bit of energy to your kick, and then say you also add some parallel compression after that, then those extra channels cannot be next to the original kick audio channel in the mixer which could lead to a lot of scrolling or navigation in the channel settings window.

  • @avantgardelg
    @avantgardelg ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video Dom, thank you. I would like to add 2 additional reasons to use midi tracks:
    1. when we need to control plugins like PitchCorrect If you want to drive the voice with a midi keyboard you need to set pitchcorrect to external midi input and add a midi track which outputs to inserts>pitch correct and voila.
    2. When you want to use midi sends to create a layer of different instruments without creating several instrument tracks and copying the same midi part several times in the project window. Instrument tracks do not have midi sends.
    Hope this helps
    Cheers

  • @alexanderbellizia7126
    @alexanderbellizia7126 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is gold, cheers.

  • @WorksopGimp
    @WorksopGimp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only use multiple outputs when I use groove agent easy to keep the drums separated, still nice to know what and why Didnt know about the activate menu I was renaming them manualy! thanks for that

  • @andesneko
    @andesneko ปีที่แล้ว

    I use MIDI channels for arrangement purposes.
    Like, I like having my hit hats, cymbals and toms in separate MIDI tracks from kick and snare, but all part of the same instrument/instance of the plugin so it is an in-between approach.
    I use multiple instruments if the instruments themselves are different, so same workflow you described.

  • @matrixate
    @matrixate 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use Vienna Ensemble Pro for my orchestral projects. So, I use MIDI tracks. Thats the standard. However, when I'm not doing orchestral, instrument tracks all the way. Thus was an awesome video. Good confirmation of how I use all my DAWs. Now, you should check out Digital Performer. Lol...beast of a DAW!

  • @EdsonVazLopes
    @EdsonVazLopes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eu uso track de instrumentos desde sempre. Tentei usar track midi algumas vezes mais achei pouco prático. Não fez sentido já que usar track de instrumentos no Cubase é tão prático e intuitivo nas produções. Obrigado pelo video. Ótimo trabalho, sou seu fã.

  • @Accentor100
    @Accentor100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to use midi channels back in the Cubase 6 and 7 days. I still have projects like that and a couple of them have lost the sounds they were assigned to. I didn't know about the trick with Groove Agent se. I had been using loops then doing the resolved part thing.

  • @cristopherfeat.8376
    @cristopherfeat.8376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...dear Dom, informative as always...but I must confess, I am more a midi track user, especially for plug-ins as Kontakt or groove agent with many midi tracks going into one vst rack, as I do not need the audio functions that often...I first render the midi into audio and then use inserts, sends, etc.

  • @SoundPeaks
    @SoundPeaks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, you have changed track colors, that's great! xD Much better )
    Talking about MIDI, you can set one MIDI track to send signal to 4 VST synths at the same time and there are use cases when you want that but cloned midi clips.

  • @billirwin1726
    @billirwin1726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had difficulty using midi tracks probably because I didn't understand how to use it.
    I only use instrument tracks exclusively...
    Thanks for sharing your expertise.

  • @LibraClassic
    @LibraClassic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came here to see if maybe I was missing out on some trick by using Instrument tracks instead of MIDI tracks - turns out I've been using them correctly! I literally have a Groove Agent/Halion template (among others) set up in just this manner!
    This is literally my "go to" channel for all things Cubase! I've used many DAWS, but Cubase trumps them all IMO!

  • @visadissanayaka
    @visadissanayaka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Learned lots of things bro.. Big thumb from Sri Lanka ❤️

  • @Nyundungma
    @Nyundungma 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Dom - thanks for this really informative video. I wonder if you could extend the lesson by looking at how to set up templates for libraries like Opus? In particular, what is best practice for setting up instrument tracks for, say, the celli where there are different sets of articulations (e.g. celli standard, celli short notes, celli long notes, celli dynamics, etc.). Is it best to create separate instrument tracks for each set of dynamics? Or can they all be in the same instrument (in different slots)? If you can use multiple slots in one instrument track, then what is the best routing? Thanks for any further advice.

  • @boogie2266
    @boogie2266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use instrument tracks but if I use multitimbral instruments I'll add midi channels to use the other instrument channels. I haven't tested it myself but it should use less resources. I saw a video which said if you load several instances of the same instrument in one Kontakt instance it uses the needed Ram only once.
    The whole VST instrument situation can become difficult quickly.
    What I would really like to see is a video (series) covering the whole difficult situation of creating VST drums...Creating a groove (midi files, finger drumming, helper tools like Realidrums and Jamstix), triggering different drum vst's (problem midi mapping and drum maps), creating mix ready audio of the seperate drum instrument channels.
    That is a topic which seems to be an endless journey to me, finding one solution and stepping into the next problem at the same time.
    I have several drum VST's and as nothing is perfect (I like Grovve Agents integration in Cubase, SSD5's versatility and the sound of Abbey Road Drums in a messy Kontakt) but I am still considering buying more although I fear I will never be satisfied.

  • @basstohven1
    @basstohven1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos dom.

  • @felinephase
    @felinephase 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know for the MIDI or instrument track. I think it is kinda tidier to use MIDI to some extent but there's no strong position on my side on that one.
    That said I'd love to ask you something Dom.
    I just discovered the Note expression feature in Cubase. It is awesome.
    The thing is I'm trying to find a way to assign MIDI CC to specific controls in a 3rd party VST (namely Arturia Pigments). I know I could use MIDI learn but as far as possible I'd prefer to set this kind of things manually.
    As I wrote already I'm mostly used to FL Studio.
    You can just go in Current Project > Generators, expand the one you're interested in to see a full list of available controls and then right click and select "Link to Controller".
    Then I just tell any port/channel/control and I'm done.
    Is there anything of that kind in Cubase ?
    Just like when you add a new automation lane in Cubase, you can pick via a list of all the available controls from a VST.
    Would there be a place that has this list but you could say Hey this control is linked to CC10 for instance ?
    Overall, I'm interested in any topic or tips that could improve usability or productivity.
    Just like you showed at 11:11 with "Export Mixer to Cubase". I would still have done that set up / renaming manually.
    Thanks.

  • @marcoliedtke821
    @marcoliedtke821 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Dom!

  • @steinwaygoat
    @steinwaygoat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best 12 minutes ever!! Yup, I arrived at the same conclusion (instrument track), but what you really clarified was how the computer processing was great for that decision now. Ahhhhh.

  • @jocelynbedard9401
    @jocelynbedard9401 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job , and this, works .👍

  • @darbomusic
    @darbomusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your stuff 💖