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“Cheap holiday in other people’s misery” is a great opening line and is still happening in reality today
One of the greatest in RnR history, dude....along with "Load up on buns, eat your friends...."
This is exactly what rock music needed at the the time, a damn good kick in the nuts.
Good reaction
As a 16 year old it excited, thrilled and energised me, the whole punk movement made me believe as a working class kid I could be and do anything I wanted to, it expanded my dreams and ambitions, suddenly I had credibility and no one was gonna make me feel ‘less than’
The Pistols had created a media storm in the UK with their antics months before the album was even released. When it finally came, I was desperate to hate it as I was already into Pink Floyd and Genesis - but inevitably I had to concede it was a bloody great rock album (and still is). It seems a long time ago now, but nothing changed the cultural world during my lifetime as dramatically as the punk rock scene and whilst it didn't last long, it certainly left its mark.
John Lydon's lyrics are full of irony, sarcasm, venom and humor. The playing aggressive but the hooks are very catchy. It's a perfect time capsule. If you're going to do one album and out -- this is the way to do it. The album cover's perfect as well.
I was an American teenager when I heard this, probably 16, two years after it was released in England. It took about two years for us in provincial America to receive this music, and it wasn't played on the radio, and finding it was word of mouth. I tortured my poor mother by playing this every day for a couple of years straight, especially when I dropped her off at work. But this album its message gave me a freedom I cannot describe properly. It was a liberation and a sudden realization that my fears about the world were not unfounded and I had a right to question everything. All of the punk and post punk I got into (its my genre) before and after the Pistols (I was into The Ramones, The Clash and Buzzcocks first or maybe simultaneously) cemented the idea of independent thinking and self-analysis. I am very very very thankful for Punk.
By 1976 the UK charts had slowly become filled with placid, nice acts like: The Eagles, Elton John, Rod Stewart, Wings, Supertramp, E.L.O Etc. Plus rock dinosaurs, novelty records and safe singer/songwriter performers. When The Sex Pistols and Anarchy In The UK exploded it literally changed overnight. Suddenly the music scene became energised and vibrate again.
And the charts are full of utter middle of the road dross now and there's no punk to save the day. Todays youth love authority and big corporations, it's depressing.
Agreed. The rock establishment and the radio FM stations despised the Pistols because they dared to make rock rebellious again.
The first 7 inch single I ever bought.
First album was Rattus Norvegicus.
It’s about time you got around to the Black and White album, we’ve been waiting too long..
Talking about "black and white albums" from that era, the first single I ever bought was "Gangsters", and I hope The Specials' debut is also on JP's radar!
My brother brought this album home one day and I'd never heard anything like it. I was 9 at the time and I was still listening to the sweet and t rex. It changed my whole mindset of what music can be. I loved the attitude and got my brother to get more punk for me,the clash the damned etc. until I happened upon crass which changed my whole thinking,not just musically.
NMTB is still one of the greatest albums of all time
Cheers for the reaction mate
My favourite Sex Pistols single, you can just feel them coasting on the edge of losing their minds, especially Rotten's vocal towards the end, and you can feel them really clicking as a band like never before - a powerful piece of work.
The "cheap b-movie show, cheap scenery", etc. also relates to the Pistols themselves and the circus Mclaren built around them.
This made a massive impact at the time because of the confrontational nature of the band and the uncompromising lyrics. It gave a voice to those of us trying to find our own route into adulthood, distinct rom the rebellions of earlier generations. Militarised borders are strangely dislocating places where you can't help but be aware of the eyes on you, and that you are standing at a place where cultures and ideologies clash, sometimes violently. John Peel thought this was the best and most enduring of the Sex Pistol's classic singles, and I tend to agree with him.
"I'm looking over the wall . . . and they're looking at me!" Brilliant lyrics.
My favorite Sex Pistols song. The jack boots and slashing power chords that announce it get me every time.
What an absolute screamer of a track to start the greatest album ever!
In ones humble opinion!
Imagine a world without punk and try and imagine a different singer on this record (maybe Bon Scott or Ozzy Osbourne) This would still be a great hard rock record. It's the Rottenisms and the year in which it was recorded (1977) that locate it very much as punk and give it that extra push towards greatness. Its status as lead track was somewhat diluted by the three singles that preceded the album release - we were all aware of what The Pistols sounded like by then - but this track did not disappoint.
btw, you're the same age as my elder son!
The production and the great duo of Steve Jones and Paul Cook makes this album for me. Such an underrated energetic force in music history.
My Mum & Dad Bought me ''Never Mind The Bollocks" for Christmas in 1977. I was 12 at the time, it made a massive impact on me. From then all I spent my pocket money on was records & the music papers.
Rotten (John Lydon) wrote a great book called Rotten: No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs. It's amazing and WELL worth reading! He grew up pretty poor (some say not unlike a Dickens novel) in post war England. He Survived meningitis ad a kid and before joining a band he worked as a school teacher (maybe kindergarten, I can't remember) - a job he really loved, but he was of course a somewhat unconventional teacher. He's incredibly smart. Coincidentally I'd been listening to an audio commentary that accompanied a British Sci-Fi show for kids made in the 70s. There was quite a bit of talk on it about how bad off England was then, apparently it felt like the country was going to implode. Then I heard a podcast the other night talking about the state of England now and how it mirrors the 70s. This music is very much a snapshot of what many young people were feeling. I was too young (only 6 or 7 maybe) when they came out but I did hear about them. There was an urban myth that they threw up on their audience and people screamed "throw up on me." Of course that's not true but my little six year old self was like..WHAT? Of course these things become your first impression even if it's not true. Less than 10 years later I was very into alternative music - but I like a bit of everything. ;)
Thank you for the insight.
Thanks for reading my reply!! :)@@gentillygirl545
The Pistols in one album achieved cultural and music game change, sonically no other band achieved what they did with this album thanks to the production and the bands unique blend of Steve Jones guitar and bass technique and Johnny Rottens vocals which inflenced a generation. There were many imitators but none bettered it.
Lydon is aces with me. Not only for his honesty, humor and calling out British society pedos but especially for caring for his wife until she succumbed to Alzheimer’s. He was married to her for around 40 years
Great song, with a descending riff borrowed from The Jam's "In the City".
Which led to Paul Weller knocking out Sid Vicious after he boasted about nicking it.
Yup - they "half inched" a lot of their riffs - the one from "Submission" was from The Kinks' "All Day and All of the Night", too.
Love John's delivery on this, great drumming and Steve plays a mean guitarel !! 😂
Great reaction and analysis JP. I liked the Pistols as soon as I heard them back in the day. This is one of my favourites by them, great rock 'n' roll energy and thoughtful lyrics, expressed, as you stated, with the right amount of passion for this subject. Yeah, good stuff !.
Hearing this album when it came out in the 70s.really made an impact. Nothing else came close at the time. That is why it still holds up today! God bless the Pistols!
i remember when this came out, it was wild we played it all day long over and over
The world was full of physically divided peoples when this was written - not just East and West Germany but also Northern Ireland, Cyprus, the Levant, China and Taiwan, North and South Korea, and so many others. Of course, many of these divisions remain but nowadays it's more that people are divided. If only we were more prepared to look over our own personal walls and understand that people may not be the same as us but they're just as valid. It would be a happier world. But most of us won't do it because we're right and the others are wrong. It's an unhealthy mindset.
Great rock and roll music....
I was all of 12 when I heard this...being a KISS/Cheap Trick fan in 1978 this stuff punched you right in the gut. The radio was glutted with disco, Fleetwood Mac and The Eagles. It sounded SCARY...and what 12 year old boy wouldnt be attracted to music people were scared of?
Yeah ...after being exposed to this I needed actual lyrics drive and power in my rock music ...and punk delivered that. PLUS...and this is BIG...you could learn to play along with them.
Absolutely smacked the arse off all the slower heavy rock bands at the time and I loved it!
1977! Nearly 50 years ago!
I'm English and was 12 years old when this album was released. I was aware of the outrage surrounding the band in the press and other media before I ever heard their music. If a young person is told that they shouldn't listen to certain music because it's nasty and bad, that person will simply try harder to hear it. That was exactly the effect that all of the anti-Pistols and anti-Punk hysteria had on my friends and I.
Almost prefect album one greatest music sounds great live music and band great song
This song rocks as soon as we heard this opener we knew the recore was going to be great.
Bergen-Belsen was a Nazi concentration camp. Anne Frank died there.
This song and album exploded my musical comfort zone. Nothing was as threatening, challenging or as enjoyable. I realized how safe the music industry had been playing it till then. I love the guitar and John’s vocals. I suppose it’s hard for a young person to understand the impact it had at the time.
Never Mind the Bollocks changed the course of my life.
It’s hard to overstate how bland a lot of music was at the time and although they were not around for long, the jolt the Pistols (and a few others) gave was sorely needed and still reverberates to an extent today. Not just in music but fashion, graphic design, record labels etc etc they unleashed a sense of ‘well if they can do it, so can I’ DIY creativity. Listen to a few U.K. number 1 singles from 1975/76 and you’ll understand the context a bit better.
I was 24,in South London,and bang,this dropped.
Changed everything,they taught us to question “our masters” and civil unrest happened in the following years and so did the music,as always,Britain setting the trend.
My five cents: I was twelve when this album dropped. I had three neighbour brothers all older than me (from a year up to six) and I have spent many hours at theirs listening to their records for one thing. One of the older brothers had this album. I thought it was scary& dangerous because of its anger but very good - the voice of Johnny Rotten, come on! A Colossus of an album...
Remember the time , I was having a pint of beer in local music pub, they had a small venue upstairs, John Lydon came into the bar and said 'This place is full F*cking Hippies '!!
Most of us did Still have long hair!!
Punk was a big clean out of a lot of boring old bands
In 77 it was quite a breath of fresh air!!..
Great reaction. First song they wrote without Glen Matlock I believe. Always assumed it was a reaction to getting to go to the Berlin wall as part of jaunt for publicity photos that they undertook. Central focal point of the cold war, the draw of a place like Berlin (the music press then was awash with bands photographed in grim urban decay landscapes so why not Berlin?) . Last of the string of singles from the album really. Hard to explain how wonderfully disruptive that album was in the UK at the time let alone the Bill Grundy interview before it.
If you're only ever going to make one album it might as well be epic.
Beatles vs Rolling Stones
Sex Pistols vs The Damned
I remember going over to a mates house in Sydney after school because he wanted me to listen to a new album his older brother bought the day before
Great reaction Justin , this made a HUGE impression on me back in the day
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I was minus 1 when this came out, but it's a good jam - 12 years before David Hasselhoff liberated Est Germany, You pretty much nailed it.
Song was about an actual holiday the band had in Berlin.
I like the parallel he makes between Berlin and Belsen... After the war Berlin was surrounded by a wall like a huge concentration camp.
Think the line "I dont want a holiday in the sun" is a bit tongue in cheek. Their manager sent them there... Dont think it was their choice of destination.
Also the opening line "A cheap holiday in other peoples misery" is ironic... In the UK we often went to places like Spain and Greece which had poorer living standards than at home. Irony being we go there to enjoy ourselves but they were stuck in poverty. ... Berlin the same... Tourists came to visit but not a great place to live.
The "Holiday in the Sun" they had was actually in the Channel Island of Jersey, where they were apparently thrown out. This was followed by a trip to Berlin which was much more to Lydon's liking. The lyrics are then pretty much a diary of their time observing all around them.
@@normandavidtidiman9918 Well they wanted a holiday in the Jersey sun and ended up in Berlin instead... Definitely not first choice.
Also fairly sure I saw an interview with Mclaren saying he suggested Berlin.
So it was like someone saying we'll I didn't want to go to Jersey anyway.... Other than that Lyndon said he enjoyed the trip and obviously wrote a song about it
@@dcostello1976 LYDON!
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The very best of punk rock !!!! It changed my mind for ever. I'm 62 then and Still think " they're no future " Old scool hey brats !!!!!!??????❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Listen to: The Damned, New Rose. The Clash, London’s Burning. The Ramones, Glad to see you go, Judy is a punk. The Jam, The Modern World.
17 in 1977 it cetrainly made an impact(The singles initially)Nearly 50 years on scary how Anarchy in the UK is so relevant,maybe more so,now.
I love the Pistols.....I honestly think they were the one and only real punk band. Unfortunately the bands they spawned after which became "the punk era" where bands that couldn't play or sing....,all wearing ties or safety pins .....not an ounce of originality amongst them. The exact opposite of what the Pistols were. They were a great punk ROCK band. Just listen to anything off " the bollocks" and you have an album full of great rock songs. Steve Jones is one of the most criminaly underrated guitarists 🎸 around...listen to his solo album "Fire and Gasoline " to hear for yourself.
Great reaction as ever👍
Sorry I'm late to the party, but a couple of interesting facts about the first and last lines of the song.
The phrase "A Cheap Holiday In Other People's Misery" in wikipedia redirects to the "Club Med" (French travel operator) page, where it is mentioned that the phrase was a well known piece of graffiti written in Paris in May 1968, and referred to Club Med.
I have always heard the last line as "Police car be waiting for me", in reference to the first person to go over the Berlin Wall, Konrad Schumann, there days after the border was closed. His page on Wikipedia gives the story, including that there was a police vehicle waiting for him when he jumped over the coiled barbed wire.
Oh, while I'm here, strong recommendation for the post punk/art punk band Wire. My Wire journey started with the single Outdoor Miner, from their second album, Chairs Missing, and that's as good a place to start as any.
Ty Quackery :) Pink Flag was quite good!
@justJP PF is very much a first album. They develop and change with every album.
The first time I heard that, 40 years ago, I knew I'd had it.
Excellent breakdown of the lyrics. Like most punk, perhaps all punk, they were left wing socialists at heart. Immense opening track
Ty James!
Guitarl! LOL! I started in the L.A. punk scene in the 80's. The energy and anger resonated with me. I used to listen to the Beatles! I was influenced by Ringo to play drums. Then along came the "hardcore punks" the skinheads, Black Flag, FEAR, The Germs, etc. I went into the death rock scene one of the first bands to start death rock. II liked the pop music chord element with the raunchy lyrics and screaming. Bear in mind that this was a scene that came out of a rebellion in the English labor movement when their recession hit and the haves and have-nots had a disparity between them. The L.A. scene, influenced by groups like this was heavier and then heavier English punk groups sprouted up. CRASS, Angelic Upstarts, UK Subs, etc.
There's a famous story about the Sex Pistols' gig at Manchester Free Trade Hall in June 1976, known as “The gig that changed the world". There were only about 40 people at the gig, but the people who went to it went home and founded bands: Joy Division, The Buzzcocks, The Fall, The Smiths, plus punk poet John Cooper Clarke and music journalist Tony Wilson (who would go on to form indie record label Factory Records). That one gig is seen as the moment at which British punk and post-punk was founded. The Sex Pistols returned for a second gig several weeks later, to not 40 but over 400 fans. BTW, if you get a chance, watch the hilarious movie "24 Hour Party People", about the birth of the Manchester punk and new wave scene. It's a great watch!
It hit me in the face, like it was intended. It was a great alternative to overwrought pop, tired '60s acts morphing into their own tribute bands, prog noodling and fret wanking, disco, and rock 'n blooz bombast.
Always preferred the B-side of the 7".
It's quite heavy, great song.
Every time I go back to that time period and think this song, the times, and other punk bands, I think about the Young Canadians - Hawaii. I would never suggest anyone do a reaction video but, if you like this hunt down the version of Hawaii they did live on North Shore Community cable tv.
Another lesser band of the era worth a look, even if not a reaction, in New Zealand's The Scavengers. Their song "Mysterex" is peak punk IMO.
Zt the time we got a few copies in Montreal at Sam the Recordman the sales person told this 18 yrs old kid that paying close to twenty bucks for the import lp was a waste of money for a bg of dog poop and put my purchase in a paper bag lol i thank this guy for inflaming my curiosity
A CLASSIC
I still enjoy the hard rock, BOC,Cheap Trick, UFO , I was listening to at the time, but they didn’t have that angry energy. To me that was the difference.
Screw the beach, I want to go to Berlin for a holiday!
IMO the Sex Pistols were the best purveyors of angry nihilism in musical form.
The essence of rebellious 1970s youth living on the margins of society.
Hasn't steve thanked glen for playing all the guitars on this album? I know steve could play them later .
Great song, from my mid teens!
I bought Pretty Vacant on 45rpm.
The b side, NoFun had swearing in it so I was put off buying the LP as I didn't wanna upset my mum.
I was11.
Money and Malcolm McLaren made their world spin faster so twas inevitable they'd fall off.
Some call it Swindle...
Some call it Theatrical Staging...
4 brilliant singles though.
Much better than You're Own Special Way by Mikey R.
Be honest - one of the greatest albums ever. Woke the industry up Disco and MOR "rock" band were destroying music. You should also pick up on Rise by PIL
Still works for me , brings another smile on my face, great song and what an album.
This song was portentous, the wall came down only 12 years later.
I think you're reading too much into the lyrics. John Lydon wasn't a political activist; more like a provocateur and someone who liked stirring up shit.
Fantastic single , love em always . New York needs an airing please . ❤
It seems strange now, but in 1976 the Sex Pistols seemed to be a threat to some. Now, they seem just cute, or even quaint!
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It may be the subliminal punk rock song. maybe not 🙂
Ripped off The Jam with the riff "In The City" but that's ok as The Jam ripped off many as well
One of their better ones... Not that there were that many.
Musically, average. Vocally, boring! Sorry, I never got into the Pistols or PIL. The Rotten/Lydon voice always repelled me.
Vocally boring? Totally compelling to my ears
@@kevtruth Good for your ears if they can handle that. Mine have always been reluctant!😉
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@@a.k.1740 Heads up on that video JP - "A Quick One" by the Who at the Rock And Roll Circus!
Nobody does it like Rotten and never will, steve jones guitaring is like no other sound past or present....