The people in Dying Light 2 really had it figured out. They set their bases up in places that a normal person would be able to get to with a little effort and a standard infected wouldn't be able to get to at all due to their lack of agility. They also have UV lighting with renewable power keeping them going so the more agile mutations stay out. The only real issue would be replacing the UV lights as they wear out and, given the length of time they have been using UV lighting, I think it is safe to assume they have figured that out.
they figure out not to soon because as you knew the virus still overrun almost everyone villedor was the "best" case scenario and i think hakon said that the walls saved the city from the horde outside
@@jimbothegymbro7086 yep. Same effect either way, but UV lamps are irritating except if you have time to implement them. No doubt (& on a separate tangent) if Dying Light 2 were a real world crisis, flares are more sensible, potentially easier to make, you can carry around a better than fair number, & they'll provide a way to get the job done & book it while leaving the flare behind as a distraction in the field in the event that you are surrounded by the lower class enemies, giving you the time to pull out the lantern if you think a heavier unit is approaching.
@@ricardoazofeifa5784 I have that issue against dying light because honestly the dude spent his whole life outside the city with other runners and was fine. But as soon as he gets into the city which is arguably 10x more infected he says the city is far safer than the rest of the world 😂
Fun fact the teen soldier that Roanoke points out for wasting ammo is the directors daughter her first and only acting experience, the guys daughter showed up for a visit to set and he decided to put her in the film! Something along those lines I remember from the audio commentary as this is one of my favourite zombie films
to somewhat explain why Fiddler's green's Millitary/guards sucked against the zombies, Hoffman's character was basically doing budget cuts, and just had them be "here's a gun, shoot them", and with their fence being there it made them be too reliant on it
@@virtueofabsolution7641 easy, make the man who runs the town greedy as fuck, they will find ways to by pass it, and keep the money for themselves, which he almost did
@@virtueofabsolution7641 Modern hospitals underpay healthcare workers during a pandemic. A tyrant understaffing the anti zombie defenses sounds legit to me.
There’s something both comforting and disturbing about the zombies regaining some of their lost sapience: on one hand it makes them much more dangerous, but on the other hand it’s kind of nice to see these poor creatures regain some semblance of their lost humanity, especially Big Daddy’s compassion
And the way that the zombies sort of mind their own business, doing what they vaguely remember from life. Like, had they been left alone would they have just been playing house the whole time?
7:26 Just a cool little note: the two zombies here trying to bite the woman are actually Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright! Edgar Wright is the director of "Shaun of the Dead" and Simon Pegg was the star and co-writer as well. Shaun of the Dead is the first of the "Cornetto Trilogy," and it's a parody of George Romero's original "Dawn of the Dead." If I remember correctly, Romero loved Shaun of the Dead so much that he offered to have them cameo in this film.
@@AirQuotes Personally I wouldn't put it under trash, not even in the slightest. It wasn't as intensely focused on parodying/satirizing a genre as the other two, which perhaps is why it isn't as strong as them, but even still it's a very good film about the idea of humanity, self destructive behavior, and being stuck in the past.
I want to see how you handle Warm Bodies. Yes, it's a Zombie Romance movie, but I'd love to see how you tackle the actual, genuine rehabilitation of barely-sentient Zombies into human society (while still being infected). Helps that there are also zombies there that are so far gone that they are sadistic and vicious animals, serving as a contrast to the coexistence-desiring zombies
As with most human issues in the Hollywood-verse, love has this supernatural effect that just overcomes anything. Yeah I know, "love conquers all" but I still think the concept is taken too far in fictional worlds.
@@notsyzagts7967 For all we know, dopamine does something to a now-aged virus. Like I said, Roanoke tackling this would be interesting even at a biological standpoint. Also he has done magic-related stuff at this point anyway.
In this movie I actually rooted for the zombies and Big Daddy and see him as an main character of the movie. He was literally minding his own business on a gas station until he was provoked.
This was one of the movies that made me not "scared" of Zombies. In fact, when the movie ended, I wanted to see more of "Big Daddy" to see if he "healed" even further. This would lead into the other movie that changed my mind: the movie "AAAAAHHHH Zombies!" This movie had been done from the ZOMBIES' points of view. Just watch that movie... seriously.
This was one of the movies that made me scared of zombies too since this was one of the first zombie movies I ever saw (my first ones were this movie, the first two resident evil movies, and the remake of dawn of the dead). For me it might’ve been worse because I lived (and still live) next to a cemetery
yeah it honestly gave me real planet of the apes vibes like it made me geuinly intrested to see what kind of world a "sapient undead" society would create if they regained there inteligence even if just TOO big daddies level as honestly he seems fully aware and conscious as you or me if slightly slower just unable to directly speak and convey that to uninfected anymore.
"I know Kung Fu?!" Land of the Dead: Road to Fiddler's Green isn't the best zombie game by far, but they knew what they were doing when they added the fists. I have a theory as to why the fireworks are (or rather were) such potent distractions to the dead. They're reacting as they did in life, albeit in a flawed fashion. When there are fireworks, people tend to watch. That's what you're supposed to do. So the dead stare at them too.
Romero also set the groundwork for fireworks so show up in later games and movies. Like State of Decay, Dead Rising, And Dying Light. It's actually a neat part of the movie and shows how much Romero really lived and thought about the zombie apocalypse their are lots of meat little zombie apocalypse survival nods in this movie. Really should have been more movies.
Some time ago there was a Dawn of the Dead fanfic showing the fast running zombies slowly becoming more like Romero zombies, and they could actually be distracted by Christmas lights. Not that I can complain about the author going that direction. Christmas lights are always pretty to look at.
This film actually and quite unsettled me back in the day it gave me actual and true pos appocalyptic feeling ~ a feat only a mere few movies accomplished. I am glad most of the 'lower class' people in the city managed to save their lives but the 'elites' massacre was so outright brutal it actually disturbed me, granted I was not an adult when I first watched the movie but still this got the terrifying part quite deep ! The even worst part is that the already decomposed but immortal zombies having - at least some of them - an acceptable degree of sapience. Like the are Nothing alive or humane anymore but they are still there rotting
You should watch the original iterations of this genre. Romero’s Night of the Living Dead is pretty decent and is important for bringing the concept to mainstream but I honestly prefer the campy, grosser black comedy horror Return of the Living Dead for a more meta textual analysis of the concept of “the beginning of the end” Also I’m pretty sure you have to be at least 13 to post here so maybe check with your parents next time.
If you haven’t seen it, Train to Busan is prob one of my fav more recent zombie movies. No guns, class separation, what’s a happy ending? It honestly reminds me of the more classic zombie movies over the infinite ammo, plot armour characters American zombie movies have had the last decade. The second one, Peninsula, isn’t as good imo as it kinda forgets what made the first one so good but thts just my opinion.
I, too, felt the same way when I first saw the film. I actually thought it was rather unfair that the “elites” got massacred by the zombie hoard. I’m sure not all of them were bad people. But then I remembered George Romero’s politics on socio-economic issues as he was a child of the 1960s. So I appreciate what he was trying to do here in order to bring social justice to an unfair society… both pre and post apocalypse.
There are dozens, probably hundreds of TH-cam channels that can walk through a movie and tell you what happens. They might even have commentary regarding behind-the-scenes activity or insight regarding related works. But, this is the only channel to which I am subscribed that can answer "yeah, but could it really happen and, if so, how?" You do that. And it's awesome.
This movie actually horrified me when I saw it on TV during preteen with its creative gore & it still disturbs/fascinates me to this day; the hand/forearm longitudinally pulled in half, skateboard guy being ambushed & eaten, construction worker being skinned of his head alive, the agonizing slaughter of the doomed crowd at the end...etc...
Honestly, these videos are so much comfort for me. Going through a lot at the moment and every Friday, i get so excited for this viewing. Thank you Roanoke for your continued comedy and information
I feel the exact same way. This is, easily, my favorite channel. I've been even more isolated than I already was (I'm disabled and homebound, and have been for years _before_ the coronavirus) because I lost my mom. I can't stand the silence and can't stand just flipping the TV on, but having these on makes me less alone.
I love all of the classic 'Of the Dead' films but it still makes me laugh at how people die to them in the first place when the zombies walk so fucking slowly, its like all the people in these films don't mind being touched/grabbed by decomposing people. 28 days later makes things so much more scary by the simple fact that they are sprinting at you.
It’s worth noting, zombies in the classic “Of The Dead” movies don’t die unless you destroy the brain, so a decapitation does nothing to stop them from hitting you, Ontop of that the longer a zombie is around the smarter it is. In some cases zombies are smart when they turn, meaning if a member of your group turns into a zombie, they can lead other zombies to secret entrances in your base. In addition, nobody knows what’s causing the dead to rise, there might not be a way to ever permanent fix the issue that anyone who dies will come back as a zombie unless the brains destroyed, a virus like the one in TWD could be cured, but there’s a chance this isn’t even a virus. It’s also worth noting the Rage Virus doesn’t create zombies, but infected, the infected in 28 Days Later are still very human and still very capable of dying to starvation, blood loss, or anything your average human could die to, the only difference is the infected don’t really feel pain.
@HUNK Mr. Death Well decapitation WOULD work in the sense that it stops the zombie from being a threat, the body’ll just die on its own and the head can’t do anything anymore as there is no body to control.
Romero’s monsters are somewhat next to tricky because whenever someone or anyone dies of ANY cause(unless their brains are destroyed ahead of time)besides bites of course reanimates, everyone turns. Thanks to the radiation* in N.O.L.D. *As it was implied.
@@RoanokeGaming 12:40 fun fact the actor wanted to be "Eaten alive by zombies" in the original script he was supposed to join with the group and survive and he was supposed to throw john's charcter into a hoard of zombies for leaving him there, but instead he wanted to go out getting eating alive by zombies and george being the nice man he was gave him his moment :D
The Living Dead novel by George Romero & Daniel Kraus gives a ton of insight- the zombies have a collective consciousness and have vague memories of their past lives. The book also insinuates that the Earth and/or God wiped out humanity for the planet to be able to flourish again- really great stuff and I highly recommend it!
I am assuming that the virus cannot jump species or that critters could sense that the zombies are 'tainted' and would not eat them. Otherwise they would be dealing with undead carian eating animals along side zombies. As I see no evidence of zombie rodents etc, I would pothasize that zombie fish wouldn't be in the cards. It's been documented that preditors will avoid diseased prey and thier corpes, so perhaps the same would apply in this situation.
well technically they were in pittsburgh (the kaufman name is based on a mall chain that was in pittsburgh that went under) and in the beginning they go from a local city called uniontown where the lead zombie big daddy is pumpin gas and the place the zombie musicians were is in the patio/gazebo landmark in donora, to monogahela, to washington (the part where john's character gets bit was named different but its local beer shop in the city,)then to pittsburgh i am thinking blvd of the allies area because when they showed where fiddler green was it looked like the same area i would of went up to lake erie got on a boat and stocked on supplies based on where they were im from pa and i remember greg nicotero doing an interview for g4 when he explained all the locations and he , george and tom savini are from pittsburgh pa
How to survive a zombie apocalypse in a city: 1. Move into a skyscraper with seeds, pots, bags of soil, quick dry cement and weapons. 2. When the zombies rise fill the first floor stairwells with Quick dry cement to prevent zombie or human incursion as well as control elevator access by using weapons to deal with any pesky zombies or humans. 3. turn all office space near a window into a vertical farm using “Night soil” as fertilizer. 4. ??? 5. Profit!
Or just remove the stairs on the first floor so zombies cannot climb and humans have to fashion ropes or other devices to climb up. Then you could have a wall or preventative measures like spikes or creating a slippery surface so people cannot latch on to anything. Elevators will become useless once the grid goes, which will be within a few weeks depending on how fast the infection is. You could use it as a means to get up and down via a pulley system but you'd need to make sure only you know how to operate it so humans cannot get up to the higher levels. Growing crops is good, and you can even consider trying to find livestock like chickens and smaller animals to use as a source of meat. Hopefully this is in an area where it rains often otherwise you will need water after using up all the water in the building, especially if you are growing crops. City survival is extremely hard not only due to the lack of space and the possibility of numerous other survivors but because almost everything in a city needs power to function.
@@handlerone5172 honestly, if we go with the assumption that you have control of a building in a city, I don't think it would have to rain often at all. Grabbing all the cups, pots, pans, bowls, and anything else to hold water and putting it on the roof, one rain would be enough to supply you and whoever you're with for quite a while. I mean, you could even put some bath tubs up there. The real difficulty I think would be finding enough decent dirt in a city to make farms by windows. Seeds could be a problem too, but as long as you find some plant waste (especially thrown out potatoes) you should be fine on that front. Getting enough food to last until crops start to grow would also be tough, unless you're in an apartment or something. But an office building just isn't going to have enough long lasting food I don't think, other than a cafeteria on the ground floor that would be looted pretty fast.
I’m finding a great irony across multiple lore universes: this, resident evil, and more I can’t remember. The less your immune response is, the higher your chance of keeping your personality/consciousness post infection. You would think stronger immune system equals higher survivability. It seems inflammation of the brain is the real danger here
Living fairly north in the bottom heavy rectangle of the Canadian prairies, I'd honestly recommend it for the zombie apocalypse. Its sparsely populated and a long way from anywhere so if you survive the first wave, there aren't gonna be a lot of walking dead or human raiders. Its also wide open spaces so all you need to do is climb a grain elevator for a lookout straight to the horizon. There's bins full of grains, pulse crops and hardy root veg, grass fed free range cattle and wild game. Its also barely one generation from everyone doing farm chores by hand so the knowledge of what we do when the power grid goes is just at the local coffee row where the retirees hang out. Every small town and many of the farms still have some (barely) antique old equipment made before planned obsolesce was a thing, people still passionately fire up steam powered equipment, and we have a dedicated crafters who can knit, sew, smith, can, smoke, distill and build. So yah, come visit Saskatchewan, Land of the Living Sky when its the age of the walking dead. I'll see you at the WDM.
It's literally miles of nothing out there the great plains are a beautiful place in America no better place to be to clear you mind either. Sadly most of it on the southern end has been destroyed for agriculture.
This continues from ‘85s Day of the Dead. The Dawn remake tells us nothing of Romero’s original Living Dead verse. The growing awareness and cognitive activity we start to see with Bub, but we see even earlier signs with the instinctive running on memory in the original Dawn. Look at Flyboy remembering the way through the false wall.
The zombie at the begining of Night Of the Living Dead used a rock to smash the window of the car in the cemetary to go after Barbra shows more intelligence too. But yes Bud was way smarter in Day was smarted knowing how to cock a gun, and later using one to shoot Rhodes.
@@DjOdyssey1971 the zombies in notld also used sticks and stones to smash the boarded windows in the final act, and of course Karen stabbing her mother with a trowel. In dawn, there was the "gun nut" zombie who stole Roger's AR then traded it for Peter's savage 99. The fact is Day had the fewest zombies exhibiting intelligence yet manages to still have the most memorable character in Bud.
@@jimbothegymbro7086 oh I’ve been aware of that but I strictly make medical grade ultrasound equipment. So finding new medical uses always intrigues me. But still thanks.
They go into this a LOT more in romero’s last work, his book The Living Dead. It’s a wonderful piece that’s just as societally charged as his other works and has some really interesting stuff about zombies mental recovery and even their point of view. Highly recommend it especially for more info on how Romero’s zombies evolve. ALSO the dawn of the dead remake is NOT related to Land of the Dead, that remake is its own thing and the virus is a little different than the original which Land IS related to
Basically, everything stemming directly from *Night of the Living Dead.* It was a real bonehead move to omit the canonical ambient energy source which was in fact present in the first movie. It is presumably there in subsequent films leading up to this, but we don;t have a lot of instances of people like that guy who hung himself or the girl who shot herself in the face. And most who weren't killed by zombies were inconsequential nobodies the movies don't stick around to bother us with.
I am guessing you never saw *Night of the Living Dead.* This movie is actually a sequel to that old film where the brains of the recently deceased were being revived by cosmic radiation. There is no contagion causing it. @@dukenukem69
Not really, after a few months or so their physical bodies would be starting to deteriorate to the point they’d be struggling to move. Realistically zombies wouldn’t last long at all.
Thanks for the awesome videos man. Have you ever heard about the series Primal? Would love to see your take on the plague from the The Plague of Madness episode
When I was at college studying animal behaviour and husbandry I had biology classes with a strange guy who did an entire project for one of our assignments about cell division, for some reason he went on a twenty minute tangent about how he early stages of pregnancy and having cancer are comparable with eachother. He ended up failing the Biology module
yay roanoke you do amazing videos and brings us all back to watch more your in deph videos are really educative and informative im currently watching this video and enjoying it so far aswell :)
Just came across this channel and I can say it's amazing! I would love to see some stuff on the viruses in Dead Island/Left 4 Dead/Back 4 Blood, the nuclear fallout of Fallout, and maybe even Shawn of the Dead! Keep up the amazing work!
Considering how long it's been since you last covered this, I'm really glad that you decided to explore this. It's something I've been curious about. 😂
Romero actually set up the character Big Daddy and the zombies retaining or regaining some of their memories wayback in Night of the Living Dead when the zombies in that one are shown to be able to use tools which is not done it any other zombie movie Sense. next in Dawn of the Dead and is shown that one of the main guy who need to make a zombies still retain the memory of the secret wall they put in to protect their area from where the rest of the zombies were in the mall and he led the others on bees to it and they bounced again still there broken apart. next in Day of the Dead you have the zombie Bud who could be taught and was shown to remember how to salute and later how to shoot a gun.
Heya Roanoke, I absolutely LOVE your channel. That being said, I don't think the same rules apply to Land that apply to the 2004 Dawn of the dead, not because Romero didn't write it (he and James Gunn cowrote the script) but because when he wrote it he had it based in the same timeline as his 1978 and 1985 Dawn and Day of the Dead respectively. The evidence for this is that it follows the concept of the zombies being capable of learning to function as they did in their former lives, as is shown in Day of the Dead 85 when Bub is taught to do things like shave and use a Walkman by Dr. Logan (gee, you think Romero was a Wolverine/X-men fan? Haha) and ultimately culminates in Bub remembering his military training in his former life as he grabs a force multiplier and uses it to take out Rhodes before saluting him. Hopefully this helps to at least clarify the timeline, although I don't suppose that it helps to clarify the function of the Virus in this film and its overall effects on the brain and/or the meat suit.
Hey roanoke, i recently found your channel and i have been listening to your movie playlist all week while at work. Great entertaining content! Look forward to the other playlists
I just watched this movie I forgot how good it is as a classic zombie film 10/10 would recommend. They should have done a sequel called reckoning of the dead. But it's pretty neat how the zombies change from the beginning to the end of the film.
I loved this movie as a kid. My favorite gore scene or non gore scene was when the zombies ripped a hand in half and you saw the shadow of it happening. Also I don’t think an island would do much good, since these zombies have zero issue walking in the water. Also wouldn’t that water become contaminated with the zombies blood
Salt water would definitely eat them to the bone, plus waves, water pressure, depth, sea insects, and a list of other reasons would make an island a great idea. The water they walked through wasn’t the actual ocean.
The part everyone forgets about islands: Your resources are fundamentally limited and a storm can make you all extinct. Best bet? Cold north. Zombies are still made of water, which means all zombies within 5000 Miles turn to ice for 3/4 of the year. Likely they're dead at the end, at least if bullets work, and so you're not likely to see zombies at all. And what a lush area to survive in! Deserts are a close second.
I imagine in a zombie apocalypse scenario a colder climate will basically freeze any zombie at the mildest temperature drop due to rigor mortis that has already set and stiffened up every muscle in their body, that's why they move slow they are always struggling with the feeling of dead weight all over their body also a colder climate means not many people would want to move there reducing any chance chance of encounter with raider factions.
Honestly I’m surprised no one pointed out the zombie soldiers at 11:23 seem to be *eating themselves!* The first guy is clearly eating his left hand and the second right after is eating his own foot 😖😖😖 Thanks for the videos Roanoke, I need cheering up so thanks 💙🐱💙
There was a child that, due to debilitating non refractory balls out seizures, underwent a total hemispherectomy and went on to live a normal life. Kids brains are insanely adaptable
Watching you these past few years has unlocked such an interest in me for biology and virology! I have a suggestion on a future video idea, maybe you could take a look at the days gone Hooligan virus. Honestly is an amazing game, but the freakers themselves are so interesting and the way they work would really be an interesting video imo.
2 fun facts, Peon is Shawn roberts who played Albert Wesker from the RE movies and also was in another George Romero movie, Diary of the dead. And Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright got invited by George Romero, due to the success of Shawn Of The Dead, to be cameo Zombies in the underground ring scene.
In a world where zombies have taken over, what is the point of money? John Leguizamo wants money. Dennis Hopper wants to keep the money. You need money to live in the tower, which ends ups becoming pointless once the zombies attack.
It also makes no sense that all the elite are still elite. The ones in charge would be the guys who go out finding supplies or the people who stockpiled goods and guns.
@@RoanokeGaming I think it's important that security is the most valuable thing you could barter, barter rules everything. But in this universe it's also implied that there are a lot of other human settlements where money is still used as the general currency. The tower and the green are just one of many pockets of survivors.
For anyone interested, here's a fun trick I've learned to stop myself from breathing manually. Take on sharp breath in through your nose like you have the sniffles, and then start intentionally breathing shallowly. After a second or two, you'll hopefully stop breathing manually. I find that I revert back to breathing automatically much sooner using this method, though I couldn't explain why.
Absolutely wonderful video, love it as always. These two might be a bit niche, but you should cover the WAU from Soma, or the Bugsnax from Bugsnax, the latter of which just got some dlc. Both games have a weirdly specific and detailed way of going into them, but I figured you’d love to go into it your own way!
Hey, just recently found your channel. I kinda like the fact you actually go into the science of these creatures or Viruses. Also, I really enjoy that your videos are actually entertaining while going into a fairly complex subject, and not just a monotone explanation.
Imagine being trapped inside a dead husk. This is why the single most powerful scene in any zombie movie is the scene from the ‘85 Return of the Living Dead where the characters actually briefly interview an undead and when they ask “why are you eating us” the zombie replies, I’m paraphrasing: *pain. Endless pain. The worst pain imaginable. Only eating your brain makes the pain go away* Edit for the end _if humans had waited ten years we could have communicated with the undead but humans are so dumb we destroy what we dint understand_ .........wat. Is this one of those famous moments of “failure to redraft the script”? You literally just described, not 20 min ago, how humans are therein living in seclusion, leaving the undead be, and that you would have recommended using the fireworks strategy to fully annihilate the undead population.
After Night of ..., the Living Dead movies, despite claims to the contrary, are NOT sequels to Romero's works. That's why they are the only ones to call out for brains. They ALSO can't die, even if shot in the head.
Hm, so if we keep someone breathing via life support after being infected, I wonder if they will just simply change into a zombie instead of expire for a few minutes. I wonder how much of them would remain.
Day Of The Dead 1985 was a turning point for Romero zombies flicks. The way Bub evolved in that movie showed that zombies have the ability to think, learn and remember what they used to do while living
UHM ACHTUALLY SNYDERS DAWN OF THE DEAD ISNT CANON TO LAND OF THE DEAD. GAH DO YOUR RESEARCH SCIENCE NERD. All seriousness tho great deep dive man as always!
UHM ACHTUALLY Its technically Gunn's Dawn of the Dead, Snyder directed the movie James Gunn wrote the script.... I believe Gunn kept to the same sort of rules structure from the Romero film. The head in the cooler was still alive because they do not need their body, organs etc to function, you can cut off their head and the head will still function. To destroy the zombie you had to destroy the brain. Frankenstein said in Day of the dead that the body gains nothing from eating, has no need for any of its organs and that something in the brain is what keeps them going....They even mention a surgery that might have corrected the dead's desire to eat people.
The fact that Big Daddy (gas station zombie, yes that's his name) opens the door and walks over to the pump like a normal person does really show that the zombies could be rehabilitated.
So the 2 zombies you can have a picture with at 7:27 are actually Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright in zed make-up if you watch the behind the scenes stuff they are shown talking in their makeup on set. Just a little cool bit of info.
@@RoanokeGaming And the one at 14:42 is Tom Savini the make-up artist for the original Dawn of The Dead as a zombiefied version of his character from that movie.
Simon Pegg also shows up again later as a zombie before they cross the river. Definitely got a chuckle out of me seeing him as a zombie considering when this movie came out.
2:45 Rather than echoes of muscle memory or improvement of neurological pathways, could the infected be showing early signs of adaptation by acting more human? Something like aggressive mimicry? I know that some predators can mimick prey in order to lure them in, but I don't know if there are any instances of a virus altering a host's behavior in such a way. Great video! Thanks for consistently providing us with top tier content! 😁👍
I wouldn’t think so. The humans were observing silently and hidden in the beginning as we saw multiple zombies go thru “human” routines. What changes is when big daddy tells the couple zombies to get the two humans he had spotted. That marked a turning point as a hierarchy was established.
I live in Pittsburgh and... Yeah, pretty accurate to real life. I actually know some of the actors and am acquainted with Savini, so this movie is a surreal experience.
Fun Fact: Brainbox Games, the developers of Road to Fiddler's Green would later release Day of the Zombie with an original, comic book-inspired story. Despite reusing assets from their licensed title, it felt like a slight improvement over LOTD from a gameplay perspective. Not a great game but a rare title I still think should be played (or watched) once.
The zombies are slow but remember they’re much stronger than living humans. Basically when they grab they clamp down with enormous force and won’t let go.
I always just thought that the brain was revived by the virus, but it took longer to actually yield fruit. I considered them more human than zombie in the end of this movie.
Don't some kinds of cancer grow random cells from wrong body areas and are usually less defined on what kind of cells they are? Skin and muscles are already alright at absorbing oxygen, so every cell doing more jobs and being way less efficient about it, could explain some of the lost head still being functional. What flesh is left, functions as shitty lung ersatz, basically?
yep and that can includes growing eyes in random places as well so teratomas CAN form more complex organ structures its justy unlikely and rare plus the eyes arnt attacked to a optic nerve thus dont work
I'm dying to hear your thoughts on the Warm Bodies zombies. How do you explain zombies being un-bodied by the power of love? I don't even even Roanoke can bull spit his way through that one.
Isn't this a sequel to the *original* "Dawn of the Dead"? One of the gang members (once again played by Tom Savini) from the '78 film shows up as a zombie. That would mean the "virus" is the same phenomenon as the original outbreak in "Night of the Living Dead", which was triggered by the radiation of a downed space probe.
@@RoanokeGaming Definitely am so far! 24 minutes in and gotta say, you and I got similar grudges against cancer. You lost a lot of family to it too, I'm guessing?
It's like Romero said and also wrote in Dawn of the Dead: "when there is no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth". There is a supernatural element to this although never clearly defined.
Think even in dawn of the dead the older one , Steven was able to use his gun even after turning. Romero was giving signs even in the first one when cemetary zom did break car glass with stone.
Also in the original Romero Day of The Dead there was the part of the plot with Dr. Logan training Bub (boy, Romero must have been a Wolverine fan) on how to do normal things like use a Walkman and shave. He also eventually remembers parts of his former life, as he does obtain a force multiplier and uses it to take out Rhodes before saluting him. Romero had DEFINITELY established these things in his film timeline before Land, Land just meant to expound upon this idea.
@@destructivecriticism3734 Is Land of the Dead considered a continuation of that series? Or I should say, set in the same universe? I always thought Land was a standalone film since it was Romero's only Hollywood zombie film. I could be wrong on that too. All I know is he immediately went back to low-budget zombie films after this to try and get back to Night of the Living Dead.
@@handlerone5172 actually the proof for this can be seen in the video, Tom Savini's biker character from Dawn of The Dead is here in a clip in his biker jacket implying that he's still around in zombie form after the events of Dawn Of The Dead 78
@@destructivecriticism3734 Was it established that the zombies take a long time to rot? Otherwise that would be impossible lol. I always thought it was an homage to that film.
man. its been decades when i last time watched this movie. but the things i remember most is the boss zed and the semi headless zed that bites the dude on the car, and the part where they cross the river by walking at the bottom of it. those are the things burned in my memory for some reason
In case of a zombie outbreak here a 3 tips that could save your life ! 1/ Barricade your home as much as you can and don't leave it until a week after the outbreak; cut your food intake and efforts and fill your bathtubs/sinks with tap water. Use the few days of internet and electricity left to research surviving and modern fighting. 2/ Use melee weapons, anything heavy, and DON'T AIM FOR THE HEAD. It is easier to incapacitate a zombie than to kill it, break a knee and run away. Blunt weapons will not get stuck in an opponent. 3/ Be kind, but don't be a hero. Always help if you can, but don't put yourself in arms way for strangers.
I mean just wait until the zombies have starved, as long as you have water, or some way to obtain it, you can likely outlast something that is rapidly using up energy it will not be capable of replenishing (because a huge population of zombies incapable of eating tinned or packaged food would use up the resources of the immediate environment really quickly). That's if it even becomes a major issue, most modern militaries would crush an outbreak like this extremely quickly unless some global calamity happened alongside it quickly enough that they couldn't organize to deal with it. A pathogen that can only spread by direct contact with bodily fluids is pretty easy to contain (which is why Ebola has never become a huge issue despite virulence) and the only real danger would be something widespread and airborne (like the fungal spores in The Girl With All The Gifts) which could still be dealt with by any organized force with modern technology. If you manage to survive the initial outbreak, and you don't live somewhere like America where some overenthusiastic individual might decide carpet bombing or high-yield conventional explosives are the only option to deal with a large scale outbreak, then it's very likely it will be over quickly enough that you might not even notice it if you lived outside of heavily infected areas. The biggest worry would always be looters or other people looking to take advantage of the situation to force their will on others. At this point your approach should be the same as any situation with hostile humans; hide if you can, arm yourself and try to ambush if necessary (honestly just completely avoid the conflict and give up what you need to if possible, you can replace food or money, you can't replace your life), and if forced to fight for your life aim for major blood vessels (neck, armpit, groin, etc) with a sharp implement and try to escape immediately afterwards after you've done sufficient damage to ensure your attacker won't be able to follow you (people will bleed out extremely quickly from damage to a major blood vessel you just need to escape immediate retaliation). If they have a weapon, try to get within the reach if it's something longer (like a bat or makeshift spear), if it's a knife or other such short tool wrap your left hand in some thick fabric (like a jumper or hoodie) as quickly as possible and use this to defend yourself while you either try to escape or land a decisive blow, if you know how to grapple and they don't have any friends with them, use the protected hand to cover or hold the knife while you take them down, if you have top position and something to put in the way of the knife you can probably deal with it, if you have a weapon even more so (getting into a full-on knife fight is a very bad idea and it will probably kill both parties, avoid it whenever possible). If your attacker has a firearm, well, just don't live in America, on a serious not, hide, if you are discovered and they haven't immediately killed you, give them what they want, if they get close enough that you can grab the firing mechanism and you actually have the knowledge and training to do so (don't listen to Dusty he's going to get you killed). Honestly using weapons should be pretty intuitive for most people, but realistically speaking, if you don't have training, avoid fighting wherever possible, especially against other human's. You aren't going to become some hardened warrior by just surviving the initial event, and it takes months of training to get to the level of proficiency necessary to even defend yourself against a somewhat trained opponent (Krav Maga literally teaches people to not freeze and be aggressive, it doesn't actually teach them to fight properly, this initial aggression can throw an assailant off guard, but a trained opponent will just let you charge in then take you apart, most people don't even have this sort of training, let alone legitimate fighting experience). If you have to fight, weapons (even something like basic household chemicals such as bleach can be effective if they hit the eye region), surprise tactics (like throwing the aforementioned bleach in their face while they have the guard down), ambushing someone when they are vulnerable (if someone won't leave the area and seem intent on harm wait till they are preoccupied or need to relieve themselves), and using the environment (e.g. using furniture and doors as barriers while you try to find a weapon) against your assailant are all great force equalizers. If the person doesn't seem aggressive, don't antagonize them, some people seem to have this "life or death" misconception about self-defence, most people don't want to seriously hurt you, most fights can be avoided, and de-escalation is your friend. Work with people, don't be afraid, be cautious. I see this attitude in Americans mostly, where they feel that the surrounding population is filled with "deadly criminals" to the point that they feel the need to carry a lethal weapon at all times. If you want to survive any crisis you need the help of those around you, and you need to work together. One person alone has a drastically lower chance to survive than a group of people with different skillsets. At the same time get used to observing people and being aware of your surroundings at all times. If someone or something wants to do you violence it will usually be pretty clear, keep an eye on escape routes, never allow yourself to be cornered, and if you are in a group, turn the tables on a lone assailant through teamwork don't just run off, if you absolutely have to run then try to stick together but have one person go on ahead and keep you warned of obstructions while you try to slow your assailant down by locking doors, throwing furniture, etc. The people who survive a crisis situation often do so because they kept a cool head, worked together, and tried to work out a plan, of course many are just lucky, but giving into panic and fear gets people killed moreso than anything (like those who get trampled under foot when people flee without thinking). Honestly if you ever hear of an outbreak like that and aren't trapped in a city center, get as much food as you can and go camping for a few weeks somewhere with a fresh water supply. Take a radio if possible so you can listen for updates, take your phone with a handheld charger as it's unlikely network signalling will go down globally, and just wait it out. If things are really bad you can try to find other groups nearby through various means (though people are probably going to be more dangerous than any zombie) as long as you scope them out beforehand. If you have a group you can go with, stick together, it's much better to be with people than be alone for a variety of reasons, not least that you will probably go nuts being by yourself in such a stressful scenario.
I guess it depends on the zombie type in my opinion. If they are slow I’ll take my chances in the city, but if they are fast than I’ll try for an island. But like you said either way we might just end up zombie food.
Thanks for watching guys! Remember to not stay in the cities, forests are worst, your best bet is living with the descent cave monsters
I can't stop breathing manually now, thanks. 😤
Reject modernity, reject monke, embrace troglodyte.
Happy Friday Roanoke Gaming.
When you mentioned about wanting to go south when the character wanted to go north, how do you think extreme temperatures would affect zombies?
can you do a vid on the monsters from edge of tomorrow i think they're called mimics
The people in Dying Light 2 really had it figured out. They set their bases up in places that a normal person would be able to get to with a little effort and a standard infected wouldn't be able to get to at all due to their lack of agility. They also have UV lighting with renewable power keeping them going so the more agile mutations stay out. The only real issue would be replacing the UV lights as they wear out and, given the length of time they have been using UV lighting, I think it is safe to assume they have figured that out.
they figure out not to soon because as you knew the virus still overrun almost everyone villedor was the "best" case scenario and i think hakon said that the walls saved the city from the horde outside
The easy option would be chemical based UV flares if it was realistic, because UV lamps are a hell of a lot more complicated
@@jimbothegymbro7086 yep. Same effect either way, but UV lamps are irritating except if you have time to implement them.
No doubt (& on a separate tangent) if Dying Light 2 were a real world crisis, flares are more sensible, potentially easier to make, you can carry around a better than fair number, & they'll provide a way to get the job done & book it while leaving the flare behind as a distraction in the field in the event that you are surrounded by the lower class enemies, giving you the time to pull out the lantern if you think a heavier unit is approaching.
@@ricardoazofeifa5784 I have that issue against dying light because honestly the dude spent his whole life outside the city with other runners and was fine. But as soon as he gets into the city which is arguably 10x more infected he says the city is far safer than the rest of the world 😂
Living on the roof of a crumbling building is not a good long term plan
Fun fact the teen soldier that Roanoke points out for wasting ammo is the directors daughter her first and only acting experience, the guys daughter showed up for a visit to set and he decided to put her in the film! Something along those lines I remember from the audio commentary as this is one of my favourite zombie films
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I mean she kinda aimed
That would mean that she was George A. Romero's daughter since he was the one to direct this movie.
to somewhat explain why Fiddler's green's Millitary/guards sucked against the zombies, Hoffman's character was basically doing budget cuts, and just had them be "here's a gun, shoot them", and with their fence being there it made them be too reliant on it
In short,
"shitty guy pays shitty shooters"
@@The-Ent1ty thats so true
HOW DO YOU “MAKE BUDGET CUTS” IN A ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE.
This script makes NO FUCKING SENSE.
@@virtueofabsolution7641 easy, make the man who runs the town greedy as fuck, they will find ways to by pass it, and keep the money for themselves, which he almost did
@@virtueofabsolution7641 Modern hospitals underpay healthcare workers during a pandemic. A tyrant understaffing the anti zombie defenses sounds legit to me.
There’s something both comforting and disturbing about the zombies regaining some of their lost sapience: on one hand it makes them much more dangerous, but on the other hand it’s kind of nice to see these poor creatures regain some semblance of their lost humanity, especially Big Daddy’s compassion
Imagine some kinda apocalypse and the zombies are learning to play instruments.
And the way that the zombies sort of mind their own business, doing what they vaguely remember from life. Like, had they been left alone would they have just been playing house the whole time?
@ctdaniels7049 the Zombies about to "TakeourJobzz!!". Imagine the zombies dropped an album.
7:26 Just a cool little note: the two zombies here trying to bite the woman are actually Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright! Edgar Wright is the director of "Shaun of the Dead" and Simon Pegg was the star and co-writer as well. Shaun of the Dead is the first of the "Cornetto Trilogy," and it's a parody of George Romero's original "Dawn of the Dead." If I remember correctly, Romero loved Shaun of the Dead so much that he offered to have them cameo in this film.
Nice, I can see it now that you pointed it out
Tom Savini also cameos as Blades the Biker Zombie!
Shaun of the dead is still one of the funniest movies ever made
The first two movies in that trilogy are great. Too bad the last film was trash
@@AirQuotes Personally I wouldn't put it under trash, not even in the slightest. It wasn't as intensely focused on parodying/satirizing a genre as the other two, which perhaps is why it isn't as strong as them, but even still it's a very good film about the idea of humanity, self destructive behavior, and being stuck in the past.
“Back in Tenpenny Tower”
These tiny touches always have me rolling on the floor Roanoke just extremely quality writing as always
Ten penny tower is that a fallout 3 reference?
@@ultimatestuff7111Yes it is haha
@@ultimatestuff7111 It loops back around cause I'm pretty sure Tenpenny tower was based on this movie.
I want to see how you handle Warm Bodies. Yes, it's a Zombie Romance movie, but I'd love to see how you tackle the actual, genuine rehabilitation of barely-sentient Zombies into human society (while still being infected). Helps that there are also zombies there that are so far gone that they are sadistic and vicious animals, serving as a contrast to the coexistence-desiring zombies
You just spoke what I was thinking.
As with most human issues in the Hollywood-verse, love has this supernatural effect that just overcomes anything. Yeah I know, "love conquers all" but I still think the concept is taken too far in fictional worlds.
@@notsyzagts7967 For all we know, dopamine does something to a now-aged virus. Like I said, Roanoke tackling this would be interesting even at a biological standpoint. Also he has done magic-related stuff at this point anyway.
Honestly the bony guys would be a cool topic
Man, I wanted to forget about that abomination of a zombie movie. Why'd you have to bring it back up?
In this movie I actually rooted for the zombies and Big Daddy and see him as an main character of the movie. He was literally minding his own business on a gas station until he was provoked.
Same. Always rooted for him. He kinda seems like the good guy.
He has mad underdog energy so I agree
Nah fuck that shit I wanted someone to shoot the zombie bastards. Being dead walking around and eating people is not natural.
Hopper and Leguizamo made great villains . Whoever played Big Daddy was great , very emotive even through the makeup.
I liked how he sounded like Sloth
This was one of the movies that made me not "scared" of Zombies. In fact, when the movie ended, I wanted to see more of "Big Daddy" to see if he "healed" even further.
This would lead into the other movie that changed my mind: the movie "AAAAAHHHH Zombies!" This movie had been done from the ZOMBIES' points of view.
Just watch that movie... seriously.
This was one of the movies that made me scared of zombies too since this was one of the first zombie movies I ever saw (my first ones were this movie, the first two resident evil movies, and the remake of dawn of the dead). For me it might’ve been worse because I lived (and still live) next to a cemetery
yeah it honestly gave me real planet of the apes vibes like it made me geuinly intrested to see what kind of world a "sapient undead" society would create if they regained there inteligence even if just TOO big daddies level as honestly he seems fully aware and conscious as you or me if slightly slower just unable to directly speak and convey that to uninfected anymore.
"I know Kung Fu?!"
Land of the Dead: Road to Fiddler's Green isn't the best zombie game by far, but they knew what they were doing when they added the fists.
I have a theory as to why the fireworks are (or rather were) such potent distractions to the dead. They're reacting as they did in life, albeit in a flawed fashion. When there are fireworks, people tend to watch. That's what you're supposed to do. So the dead stare at them too.
you got auto-corrected theory to *therapy xD
Romero also set the groundwork for fireworks so show up in later games and movies. Like State of Decay, Dead Rising, And Dying Light. It's actually a neat part of the movie and shows how much Romero really lived and thought about the zombie apocalypse their are lots of meat little zombie apocalypse survival nods in this movie. Really should have been more movies.
@@infernaldaedra Meat😂
@@lor_wisdom *Neat / Meat 😂
Some time ago there was a Dawn of the Dead fanfic showing the fast running zombies slowly becoming more like Romero zombies, and they could actually be distracted by Christmas lights.
Not that I can complain about the author going that direction. Christmas lights are always pretty to look at.
This film actually and quite unsettled me back in the day it gave me actual and true pos appocalyptic feeling ~ a feat only a mere few movies accomplished. I am glad most of the 'lower class' people in the city managed to save their lives but the 'elites' massacre was so outright brutal it actually disturbed me, granted I was not an adult when I first watched the movie but still this got the terrifying part quite deep !
The even worst part is that the already decomposed but immortal zombies having - at least some of them - an acceptable degree of sapience. Like the are Nothing alive or humane anymore but they are still there rotting
You should watch the original iterations of this genre. Romero’s Night of the Living Dead is pretty decent and is important for bringing the concept to mainstream but I honestly prefer the campy, grosser black comedy horror Return of the Living Dead for a more meta textual analysis of the concept of “the beginning of the end”
Also I’m pretty sure you have to be at least 13 to post here so maybe check with your parents next time.
If you haven’t seen it, Train to Busan is prob one of my fav more recent zombie movies. No guns, class separation, what’s a happy ending? It honestly reminds me of the more classic zombie movies over the infinite ammo, plot armour characters American zombie movies have had the last decade. The second one, Peninsula, isn’t as good imo as it kinda forgets what made the first one so good but thts just my opinion.
They literally ate the rich.
I, too, felt the same way when I first saw the film. I actually thought it was rather unfair that the “elites” got massacred by the zombie hoard. I’m sure not all of them were bad people. But then I remembered George Romero’s politics on socio-economic issues as he was a child of the 1960s. So I appreciate what he was trying to do here in order to bring social justice to an unfair society… both pre and post apocalypse.
They always ask "why zombies?" never "How zombies?". Except Roanoke, he cares for our Z friends.
There are dozens, probably hundreds of TH-cam channels that can walk through a movie and tell you what happens. They might even have commentary regarding behind-the-scenes activity or insight regarding related works. But, this is the only channel to which I am subscribed that can answer "yeah, but could it really happen and, if so, how?" You do that. And it's awesome.
This movie actually horrified me when I saw it on TV during preteen with its creative gore & it still disturbs/fascinates me to this day; the hand/forearm longitudinally pulled in half, skateboard guy being ambushed & eaten, construction worker being skinned of his head alive, the agonizing slaughter of the doomed crowd at the end...etc...
For me headless zombie was more terrifying.
Honestly, these videos are so much comfort for me. Going through a lot at the moment and every Friday, i get so excited for this viewing. Thank you Roanoke for your continued comedy and information
I feel the exact same way. This is, easily, my favorite channel. I've been even more isolated than I already was (I'm disabled and homebound, and have been for years _before_ the coronavirus) because I lost my mom. I can't stand the silence and can't stand just flipping the TV on, but having these on makes me less alone.
I love all of the classic 'Of the Dead' films but it still makes me laugh at how people die to them in the first place when the zombies walk so fucking slowly, its like all the people in these films don't mind being touched/grabbed by decomposing people. 28 days later makes things so much more scary by the simple fact that they are sprinting at you.
Even highschool of the dead?...
Well, yeah. I wouldn't be scared of a slow spider either.
It’s worth noting, zombies in the classic “Of The Dead” movies don’t die unless you destroy the brain, so a decapitation does nothing to stop them from hitting you, Ontop of that the longer a zombie is around the smarter it is. In some cases zombies are smart when they turn, meaning if a member of your group turns into a zombie, they can lead other zombies to secret entrances in your base. In addition, nobody knows what’s causing the dead to rise, there might not be a way to ever permanent fix the issue that anyone who dies will come back as a zombie unless the brains destroyed, a virus like the one in TWD could be cured, but there’s a chance this isn’t even a virus. It’s also worth noting the Rage Virus doesn’t create zombies, but infected, the infected in 28 Days Later are still very human and still very capable of dying to starvation, blood loss, or anything your average human could die to, the only difference is the infected don’t really feel pain.
@HUNK Mr. Death
Well decapitation WOULD work in the sense that it stops the zombie from being a threat, the body’ll just die on its own and the head can’t do anything anymore as there is no body to control.
@@Lh0000 yeah, until you're walking in some undergrowth and a head bites your ankle as you walk by. Game Over in the worst possible way.
Romero’s monsters are somewhat next to tricky because whenever someone or anyone dies of ANY cause(unless their brains are destroyed ahead of time)besides bites of course reanimates, everyone turns. Thanks to the radiation* in N.O.L.D. *As it was implied.
I'm hungry get in my belly boy
The lack of a definite explanation is one of the reasos Romero's Zombies work so well in my opinion.
I wonder if this is what inspired the same concept later found in The Walking Dead books. 🤔
Midgets, zombies with auto rifles ,fireworks, John Leguizamo this movie has it all
It truly does lol
@@RoanokeGaming 12:40 fun fact the actor wanted to be "Eaten alive by zombies" in the original script he was supposed to join with the group and survive and he was supposed to throw john's charcter into a hoard of zombies for leaving him there, but instead he wanted to go out getting eating alive by zombies and george being the nice man he was gave him his moment :D
@@CharlesH-t9rthat's sweet !
The Living Dead novel by George Romero & Daniel Kraus gives a ton of insight- the zombies have a collective consciousness and have vague memories of their past lives. The book also insinuates that the Earth and/or God wiped out humanity for the planet to be able to flourish again- really great stuff and I highly recommend it!
if they went to an actual island far out and not manhattan the currents wouldve prevented the zombies sea walk.
Plus the crushing pressure
or a steep coast line. I would still fortify it as a just in case.
Aaah but you forgot: fish. Now there are zombie fish! And zombie sharks and zombie whales.
I am assuming that the virus cannot jump species or that critters could sense that the zombies are 'tainted' and would not eat them. Otherwise they would be dealing with undead carian eating animals along side zombies. As I see no evidence of zombie rodents etc, I would pothasize that zombie fish wouldn't be in the cards. It's been documented that preditors will avoid diseased prey and thier corpes, so perhaps the same would apply in this situation.
well technically they were in pittsburgh (the kaufman name is based on a mall chain that was in pittsburgh that went under)
and in the beginning they go from a local city called uniontown where the lead zombie big daddy is pumpin gas and the place the zombie musicians were is in the patio/gazebo landmark in donora, to monogahela, to washington (the part where john's character gets bit was named different but its local beer shop in the city,)then to pittsburgh i am thinking blvd of the allies area because when they showed where fiddler green was it looked like the same area
i would of went up to lake erie got on a boat and stocked on supplies based on where they were
im from pa and i remember greg nicotero doing an interview for g4 when he explained all the locations and he , george and tom savini are from pittsburgh pa
How to survive a zombie apocalypse in a city:
1. Move into a skyscraper with seeds, pots, bags of soil, quick dry cement and weapons.
2. When the zombies rise fill the first floor stairwells with Quick dry cement to prevent zombie or human incursion as well as control elevator access by using weapons to deal with any pesky zombies or humans.
3. turn all office space near a window into a vertical farm using “Night soil” as fertilizer.
4. ???
5. Profit!
Yeah we could make this work lmao
A city colon?
@@brettkihlmire573 legally blind and using Apple’s voice dictation on an iPhone, apparently it’s a little buggy right now.
Or just remove the stairs on the first floor so zombies cannot climb and humans have to fashion ropes or other devices to climb up. Then you could have a wall or preventative measures like spikes or creating a slippery surface so people cannot latch on to anything. Elevators will become useless once the grid goes, which will be within a few weeks depending on how fast the infection is. You could use it as a means to get up and down via a pulley system but you'd need to make sure only you know how to operate it so humans cannot get up to the higher levels.
Growing crops is good, and you can even consider trying to find livestock like chickens and smaller animals to use as a source of meat. Hopefully this is in an area where it rains often otherwise you will need water after using up all the water in the building, especially if you are growing crops. City survival is extremely hard not only due to the lack of space and the possibility of numerous other survivors but because almost everything in a city needs power to function.
@@handlerone5172 honestly, if we go with the assumption that you have control of a building in a city, I don't think it would have to rain often at all. Grabbing all the cups, pots, pans, bowls, and anything else to hold water and putting it on the roof, one rain would be enough to supply you and whoever you're with for quite a while. I mean, you could even put some bath tubs up there. The real difficulty I think would be finding enough decent dirt in a city to make farms by windows. Seeds could be a problem too, but as long as you find some plant waste (especially thrown out potatoes) you should be fine on that front. Getting enough food to last until crops start to grow would also be tough, unless you're in an apartment or something. But an office building just isn't going to have enough long lasting food I don't think, other than a cafeteria on the ground floor that would be looted pretty fast.
I’m finding a great irony across multiple lore universes: this, resident evil, and more I can’t remember. The less your immune response is, the higher your chance of keeping your personality/consciousness post infection. You would think stronger immune system equals higher survivability. It seems inflammation of the brain is the real danger here
Living fairly north in the bottom heavy rectangle of the Canadian prairies, I'd honestly recommend it for the zombie apocalypse. Its sparsely populated and a long way from anywhere so if you survive the first wave, there aren't gonna be a lot of walking dead or human raiders. Its also wide open spaces so all you need to do is climb a grain elevator for a lookout straight to the horizon. There's bins full of grains, pulse crops and hardy root veg, grass fed free range cattle and wild game. Its also barely one generation from everyone doing farm chores by hand so the knowledge of what we do when the power grid goes is just at the local coffee row where the retirees hang out. Every small town and many of the farms still have some (barely) antique old equipment made before planned obsolesce was a thing, people still passionately fire up steam powered equipment, and we have a dedicated crafters who can knit, sew, smith, can, smoke, distill and build. So yah, come visit Saskatchewan, Land of the Living Sky when its the age of the walking dead. I'll see you at the WDM.
Bro be quiet. Don't give the human raiders any ideas
It's literally miles of nothing out there the great plains are a beautiful place in America no better place to be to clear you mind either. Sadly most of it on the southern end has been destroyed for agriculture.
Good luck buddy I’m pretty screwed we’re I’m at living in Ca not living in LA but not to far of
I want to live not survive
Im sold lol
This continues from ‘85s Day of the Dead. The Dawn remake tells us nothing of Romero’s original Living Dead verse.
The growing awareness and cognitive activity we start to see with Bub, but we see even earlier signs with the instinctive running on memory in the original Dawn. Look at Flyboy remembering the way through the false wall.
Indeed. The dawn of the dead 2004 remake is separate continuity so the head in the cooler he mentioned at the beginning is moot.
The zombie at the begining of Night Of the Living Dead used a rock to smash the window of the car in the cemetary to go after Barbra shows more intelligence too. But yes Bud was way smarter in Day was smarted knowing how to cock a gun, and later using one to shoot Rhodes.
@@DjOdyssey1971 the zombies in notld also used sticks and stones to smash the boarded windows in the final act, and of course Karen stabbing her mother with a trowel. In dawn, there was the "gun nut" zombie who stole Roger's AR then traded it for Peter's savage 99. The fact is Day had the fewest zombies exhibiting intelligence yet manages to still have the most memorable character in Bud.
As a guy who makes ultra sound equipment it’s nice to see more and more uses for ultrasound and not just “baby finders.”
You'll probably be glad to hear that it's used to test the quality of welds done on buildings, for small impurities and micro cracks
@@jimbothegymbro7086 oh I’ve been aware of that but I strictly make medical grade ultrasound equipment. So finding new medical uses always intrigues me.
But still thanks.
@@rokusho6667 Have you tried ultrasounding the peen?
They go into this a LOT more in romero’s last work, his book The Living Dead. It’s a wonderful piece that’s just as societally charged as his other works and has some really interesting stuff about zombies mental recovery and even their point of view. Highly recommend it especially for more info on how Romero’s zombies evolve. ALSO the dawn of the dead remake is NOT related to Land of the Dead, that remake is its own thing and the virus is a little different than the original which Land IS related to
Basically, everything stemming directly from *Night of the Living Dead.* It was a real bonehead move to omit the canonical ambient energy source which was in fact present in the first movie. It is presumably there in subsequent films leading up to this, but we don;t have a lot of instances of people like that guy who hung himself or the girl who shot herself in the face. And most who weren't killed by zombies were inconsequential nobodies the movies don't stick around to bother us with.
What? That book was shit. MASSIVELY over long, boring, conflicted with the films and absolutely drowning in "old man trying to use young people words"
@@TheNotverysocialwhat the hell are you even talking about
I am guessing you never saw *Night of the Living Dead.* This movie is actually a sequel to that old film where the brains of the recently deceased were being revived by cosmic radiation. There is no contagion causing it. @@dukenukem69
5:45 "I'm not in the apocalypse yet, that's scheduled for 2025." Oh the things you hear when re-watching Roanoke.
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Zombies who gain intelligence and self sufficiency over time. That's..actually freakin terrifying 😳
Not really, after a few months or so their physical bodies would be starting to deteriorate to the point they’d be struggling to move. Realistically zombies wouldn’t last long at all.
@@JackTheShadowMuncher Realistically zombie apocalypse is not posible, nerd
My favorite thing about this movie is Tom Savini reprising his biker role from the original "Dawn of the Dead" except as a zombie.
Thanks for the awesome videos man. Have you ever heard about the series Primal? Would love to see your take on the plague from the The Plague of Madness episode
I can check it out!
Well done!
@@RoanokeGaming this will be great
DEW IT
When I was at college studying animal behaviour and husbandry I had biology classes with a strange guy who did an entire project for one of our assignments about cell division, for some reason he went on a twenty minute tangent about how he early stages of pregnancy and having cancer are comparable with eachother. He ended up failing the Biology module
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As somebody who lives in the Pittsburgh suburbs, I can confirm that this is a hellscape.
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*WHYYYY* did you do this to me? lmao great video man, love your channel!
yay roanoke you do amazing videos and brings us all back to watch more your in deph videos are really educative and informative im currently watching this video and enjoying it so far aswell :)
Glad you like them!
"But hey, I'm not in the apocalypse yet, that's schedules for 2025." Don't you jinx us like this Roanoke.
Only a few weeks to go! 🎉
Just came across this channel and I can say it's amazing! I would love to see some stuff on the viruses in Dead Island/Left 4 Dead/Back 4 Blood, the nuclear fallout of Fallout, and maybe even Shawn of the Dead! Keep up the amazing work!
Considering how long it's been since you last covered this, I'm really glad that you decided to explore this. It's something I've been curious about. 😂
Romero actually set up the character Big Daddy and the zombies retaining or regaining some of their memories wayback in Night of the Living Dead when the zombies in that one are shown to be able to use tools which is not done it any other zombie movie Sense. next in Dawn of the Dead and is shown that one of the main guy who need to make a zombies still retain the memory of the secret wall they put in to protect their area from where the rest of the zombies were in the mall and he led the others on bees to it and they bounced again still there broken apart. next in Day of the Dead you have the zombie Bud who could be taught and was shown to remember how to salute and later how to shoot a gun.
this is why i watch this channel, the stuff this guy explains literally gets me going, damn, thats very plausible.
Heya Roanoke, I absolutely LOVE your channel.
That being said, I don't think the same rules apply to Land that apply to the 2004 Dawn of the dead, not because Romero didn't write it (he and James Gunn cowrote the script) but because when he wrote it he had it based in the same timeline as his 1978 and 1985 Dawn and Day of the Dead respectively. The evidence for this is that it follows the concept of the zombies being capable of learning to function as they did in their former lives, as is shown in Day of the Dead 85 when Bub is taught to do things like shave and use a Walkman by Dr. Logan (gee, you think Romero was a Wolverine/X-men fan? Haha) and ultimately culminates in Bub remembering his military training in his former life as he grabs a force multiplier and uses it to take out Rhodes before saluting him. Hopefully this helps to at least clarify the timeline, although I don't suppose that it helps to clarify the function of the Virus in this film and its overall effects on the brain and/or the meat suit.
Hey roanoke, i recently found your channel and i have been listening to your movie playlist all week while at work. Great entertaining content! Look forward to the other playlists
I just watched this movie I forgot how good it is as a classic zombie film 10/10 would recommend. They should have done a sequel called reckoning of the dead. But it's pretty neat how the zombies change from the beginning to the end of the film.
I loved this movie as a kid. My favorite gore scene or non gore scene was when the zombies ripped a hand in half and you saw the shadow of it happening. Also I don’t think an island would do much good, since these zombies have zero issue walking in the water. Also wouldn’t that water become contaminated with the zombies blood
Salt water would definitely eat them to the bone, plus waves, water pressure, depth, sea insects, and a list of other reasons would make an island a great idea. The water they walked through wasn’t the actual ocean.
@@JOznprk as long as whatever virus makes the zombies doesn't make mammalian fish zombies you're bang on
@@jimbothegymbro7086 But fish Zambies.....
ZOMBIE SHARK
@@C0wsmacker doo do dooo doo?
The part everyone forgets about islands: Your resources are fundamentally limited and a storm can make you all extinct.
Best bet? Cold north. Zombies are still made of water, which means all zombies within 5000 Miles turn to ice for 3/4 of the year.
Likely they're dead at the end, at least if bullets work, and so you're not likely to see zombies at all. And what a lush area to survive in!
Deserts are a close second.
I imagine in a zombie apocalypse scenario a colder climate will basically freeze any zombie at the mildest temperature drop due to rigor mortis that has already set and stiffened up every muscle in their body, that's why they move slow they are always struggling with the feeling of dead weight all over their body also a colder climate means not many people would want to move there reducing any chance chance of encounter with raider factions.
IM SO HAPPY YOU ARE DOING A VIDEO ON THIS!!!!!!!! ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAV ZOMBIE MOVIES
i had to hound on people for them to understand that this was a sequel to dawn
I enjoyed Big Daddy the most in this movie. Especially the ending when he uses gas to cause a big explosion.
Nice Tenpenny Tower joke Roanoke I’ve been replaying fallout 3 so that made me laugh lol
Honestly I’m surprised no one pointed out the zombie soldiers at 11:23 seem to be *eating themselves!* The first guy is clearly eating his left hand and the second right after is eating his own foot 😖😖😖
Thanks for the videos Roanoke, I need cheering up so thanks 💙🐱💙
There was a child that, due to debilitating non refractory balls out seizures, underwent a total hemispherectomy and went on to live a normal life. Kids brains are insanely adaptable
Watching you these past few years has unlocked such an interest in me for biology and virology! I have a suggestion on a future video idea, maybe you could take a look at the days gone Hooligan virus. Honestly is an amazing game, but the freakers themselves are so interesting and the way they work would really be an interesting video imo.
2 fun facts, Peon is Shawn roberts who played Albert Wesker from the RE movies and also was in another George Romero movie, Diary of the dead. And Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright got invited by George Romero, due to the success of Shawn Of The Dead, to be cameo Zombies in the underground ring scene.
In a world where zombies have taken over, what is the point of money?
John Leguizamo wants money.
Dennis Hopper wants to keep the money.
You need money to live in the tower, which ends ups becoming pointless once the zombies attack.
I thought this same thing, we would definitely return to a barter society
It also makes no sense that all the elite are still elite. The ones in charge would be the guys who go out finding supplies or the people who stockpiled goods and guns.
@@RoanokeGaming “I trade you 3 dad jokes for your vintage meme”
@@RoanokeGaming I think it's important that security is the most valuable thing you could barter, barter rules everything. But in this universe it's also implied that there are a lot of other human settlements where money is still used as the general currency. The tower and the green are just one of many pockets of survivors.
If you borrowed my meme then you owe me, a new fresh pair of memes
Honestly I love all the alternate words for guns, booze, explosives, etc to appease the TH-cam machine. Just so good.
I loved this movie when I first watched it! It has a perfect balance between gore, action, drama (the zombies having feelings and all) and humour.
For anyone interested, here's a fun trick I've learned to stop myself from breathing manually. Take on sharp breath in through your nose like you have the sniffles, and then start intentionally breathing shallowly. After a second or two, you'll hopefully stop breathing manually. I find that I revert back to breathing automatically much sooner using this method, though I couldn't explain why.
Absolutely wonderful video, love it as always. These two might be a bit niche, but you should cover the WAU from Soma, or the Bugsnax from Bugsnax, the latter of which just got some dlc. Both games have a weirdly specific and detailed way of going into them, but I figured you’d love to go into it your own way!
Hey, just recently found your channel.
I kinda like the fact you actually go into the science of these creatures or Viruses. Also, I really enjoy that your videos are actually entertaining while going into a fairly complex subject, and not just a monotone explanation.
Charlie carried the movie dude, he’s a hell of a shot
Literally the movie would have been 10 minutes long without Charlie
For the longest time, I was sure I made this movie up/mixed two other movies up in my head, like a weird fever dream.
Ah, good ol' Zombies are always great videos to watch while drawin', it's darn Amazin'~
I really want to say i think your content is great and you've gotten a lot better over the last few years over been following you.
Imagine being trapped inside a dead husk. This is why the single most powerful scene in any zombie movie is the scene from the ‘85 Return of the Living Dead where the characters actually briefly interview an undead and when they ask “why are you eating us” the zombie replies, I’m paraphrasing:
*pain. Endless pain. The worst pain imaginable. Only eating your brain makes the pain go away*
Edit for the end
_if humans had waited ten years we could have communicated with the undead but humans are so dumb we destroy what we dint understand_
.........wat. Is this one of those famous moments of “failure to redraft the script”? You literally just described, not 20 min ago, how humans are therein living in seclusion, leaving the undead be, and that you would have recommended using the fireworks strategy to fully annihilate the undead population.
I mean, within the context of not waiting ten years to possibly communicate with the zombies it makes total sense,
After Night of ..., the Living Dead movies, despite claims to the contrary, are NOT sequels to Romero's works. That's why they are the only ones to call out for brains. They ALSO can't die, even if shot in the head.
17:23 extreme cold would be good against rotting corpses. The extreme temps would destroy their bodies and render the apocalypse over fairly quick.
Hm, so if we keep someone breathing via life support after being infected, I wonder if they will just simply change into a zombie instead of expire for a few minutes. I wonder how much of them would remain.
Day Of The Dead 1985 was a turning point for Romero zombies flicks. The way Bub evolved in that movie showed that zombies have the ability to think, learn and remember what they used to do while living
UHM ACHTUALLY SNYDERS DAWN OF THE DEAD ISNT CANON TO LAND OF THE DEAD. GAH DO YOUR RESEARCH SCIENCE NERD.
All seriousness tho great deep dive man as always!
Well you see, everyone here is a giant nerd but me
Check and mate booooooiiiii 🤣
Thanks brother! I hear you got a Romero movie coming today as well!
@@RoanokeGaming next week but yessir!
Looking forward to it brometheus!
Wow Such Gaming, you read my mind.
UHM ACHTUALLY Its technically Gunn's Dawn of the Dead, Snyder directed the movie James Gunn wrote the script....
I believe Gunn kept to the same sort of rules structure from the Romero film. The head in the cooler was still alive because they do not need their body, organs etc to function, you can cut off their head and the head will still function. To destroy the zombie you had to destroy the brain.
Frankenstein said in Day of the dead that the body gains nothing from eating, has no need for any of its organs and that something in the brain is what keeps them going....They even mention a surgery that might have corrected the dead's desire to eat people.
The fact that Big Daddy (gas station zombie, yes that's his name) opens the door and walks over to the pump like a normal person does really show that the zombies could be rehabilitated.
Nevermind, Roanoke said it in the video, ignore the parenthesis.
So the 2 zombies you can have a picture with at 7:27 are actually Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright in zed make-up if you watch the behind the scenes stuff they are shown talking in their makeup on set. Just a little cool bit of info.
Interesting!
@@RoanokeGaming And the one at 14:42 is Tom Savini the make-up artist for the original Dawn of The Dead as a zombiefied version of his character from that movie.
Simon Pegg also shows up again later as a zombie before they cross the river. Definitely got a chuckle out of me seeing him as a zombie considering when this movie came out.
@@TheRedMage01 I thought that looked like him
@@infernaldaedra I didn't know he showed up later too.
This is one of my favorite cheapo zombie movies 😂❤️ it’s honestly just a gem
Loved it as well!
2:45 Rather than echoes of muscle memory or improvement of neurological pathways, could the infected be showing early signs of adaptation by acting more human? Something like aggressive mimicry? I know that some predators can mimick prey in order to lure them in, but I don't know if there are any instances of a virus altering a host's behavior in such a way.
Great video! Thanks for consistently providing us with top tier content! 😁👍
I wouldn’t think so. The humans were observing silently and hidden in the beginning as we saw multiple zombies go thru “human” routines. What changes is when big daddy tells the couple zombies to get the two humans he had spotted. That marked a turning point as a hierarchy was established.
"People call me racist... I can't even drive."
-Bilbo Baggins
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
I live in Pittsburgh and... Yeah, pretty accurate to real life.
I actually know some of the actors and am acquainted with Savini, so this movie is a surreal experience.
God damn it, got me with the manual breathing again. You’re a monster
5:45 it's currently Dec 12 2024, can we just start the apocalypse now
Please, let’s it end 😂
Fun Fact: Brainbox Games, the developers of Road to Fiddler's Green would later release Day of the Zombie with an original, comic book-inspired story.
Despite reusing assets from their licensed title, it felt like a slight improvement over LOTD from a gameplay perspective. Not a great game but a rare title I still think should be played (or watched) once.
The zombies are slow but remember they’re much stronger than living humans. Basically when they grab they clamp down with enormous force and won’t let go.
I love that Tom Savini is always a monster in movies he does special effects for.
I would like to point out if people in zombie movies made even a basic form of body armor(head, neck, shin, etc) zombies wouldn't stand a chance.
even then youd still be at risk from zombie hoards as theyd just pile over you and suffocate you trying to eat you even if they cant break threw.
Old knights armor and chain mill lol
Clank, clank, not an good idea, zombies are attracted to sound ,@@broman3000
I remember this movie, I never understood how one zombie was literally that smart to ignore distractions and have some brains
I just rewatched it a few days ago. This movie is pretty legit.
I always just thought that the brain was revived by the virus, but it took longer to actually yield fruit. I considered them more human than zombie in the end of this movie.
you are what you eat
I'm unlucky enough my ADHD would carry over to being a zombie, only unmedicated, so I'd be even easier to distract.
@@Crazed-Sanity You'd also be really useful at seeing food.
I went to high school with one of the squad members in this movie. One of DeMora's crew, Foxy.
Don't some kinds of cancer grow random cells from wrong body areas and are usually less defined on what kind of cells they are? Skin and muscles are already alright at absorbing oxygen, so every cell doing more jobs and being way less efficient about it, could explain some of the lost head still being functional. What flesh is left, functions as shitty lung ersatz, basically?
Teratomas?
@@Crazed-Sanity Yeah, I think you're right, that might be the name of that kind of cancer.
yep and that can includes growing eyes in random places as well so teratomas CAN form more complex organ structures its justy unlikely and rare plus the eyes arnt attacked to a optic nerve thus dont work
Dude, not only there are people who don't believe we were on the moon. There are people who don't believe in the moon to begin with.
Land of the dead felt like it had a lot of lore to explore. This and Planet Terror were the most fun to watch of all the zombie movies for me
There is no statement more powerful then “your breathing manually now”
I'm dying to hear your thoughts on the Warm Bodies zombies.
How do you explain zombies being un-bodied by the power of love?
I don't even even Roanoke can bull spit his way through that one.
I remember watching this movie a long time ago and I’m glad you did a video on it. Loved the movie.
I unironically liked this movie back then. It was neat to see a post-zombie world and how society would change.
What a surprising cast. Like, never heard of this but see a couple actors I would never have expected
Isn't this a sequel to the *original* "Dawn of the Dead"? One of the gang members (once again played by Tom Savini) from the '78 film shows up as a zombie.
That would mean the "virus" is the same phenomenon as the original outbreak in "Night of the Living Dead", which was triggered by the radiation of a downed space probe.
Here we go, finally! New Roanoke vid, favorite part of Fridays
Hope you enjoy it man!
@@RoanokeGaming Definitely am so far! 24 minutes in and gotta say, you and I got similar grudges against cancer. You lost a lot of family to it too, I'm guessing?
It's like Romero said and also wrote in Dawn of the Dead: "when there is no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth". There is a supernatural element to this although never clearly defined.
The other day I called the brain a 3 pound anxiety machine and my dad added it to his list of bad band names, just thought I’d pit that out there.
Think even in dawn of the dead the older one , Steven was able to use his gun even after turning.
Romero was giving signs even in the first one when cemetary zom did break car glass with stone.
Also in the original Romero Day of The Dead there was the part of the plot with Dr. Logan training Bub (boy, Romero must have been a Wolverine fan) on how to do normal things like use a Walkman and shave. He also eventually remembers parts of his former life, as he does obtain a force multiplier and uses it to take out Rhodes before saluting him. Romero had DEFINITELY established these things in his film timeline before Land, Land just meant to expound upon this idea.
@@destructivecriticism3734 Is Land of the Dead considered a continuation of that series? Or I should say, set in the same universe? I always thought Land was a standalone film since it was Romero's only Hollywood zombie film. I could be wrong on that too. All I know is he immediately went back to low-budget zombie films after this to try and get back to Night of the Living Dead.
@@handlerone5172 as far as I know, yes it is.
@@handlerone5172 actually the proof for this can be seen in the video, Tom Savini's biker character from Dawn of The Dead is here in a clip in his biker jacket implying that he's still around in zombie form after the events of Dawn Of The Dead 78
@@destructivecriticism3734 Was it established that the zombies take a long time to rot? Otherwise that would be impossible lol. I always thought it was an homage to that film.
Breathing manually bit was spot on. Good stuff, man!!
man. its been decades when i last time watched this movie. but the things i remember most is the boss zed and the semi headless zed that bites the dude on the car, and the part where they cross the river by walking at the bottom of it. those are the things burned in my memory for some reason
R.I.P George Romero. Your last book truly is a mondern zombie masterpiece.
Roanoke, have you played Dying Light 2 yet?
In case of a zombie outbreak here a 3 tips that could save your life !
1/ Barricade your home as much as you can and don't leave it until a week after the outbreak; cut your food intake and efforts and fill your bathtubs/sinks with tap water. Use the few days of internet and electricity left to research surviving and modern fighting.
2/ Use melee weapons, anything heavy, and DON'T AIM FOR THE HEAD. It is easier to incapacitate a zombie than to kill it, break a knee and run away. Blunt weapons will not get stuck in an opponent.
3/ Be kind, but don't be a hero. Always help if you can, but don't put yourself in arms way for strangers.
It would be a bit easier if firearm is flourish, like you could easily find it in houses
I mean just wait until the zombies have starved, as long as you have water, or some way to obtain it, you can likely outlast something that is rapidly using up energy it will not be capable of replenishing (because a huge population of zombies incapable of eating tinned or packaged food would use up the resources of the immediate environment really quickly). That's if it even becomes a major issue, most modern militaries would crush an outbreak like this extremely quickly unless some global calamity happened alongside it quickly enough that they couldn't organize to deal with it. A pathogen that can only spread by direct contact with bodily fluids is pretty easy to contain (which is why Ebola has never become a huge issue despite virulence) and the only real danger would be something widespread and airborne (like the fungal spores in The Girl With All The Gifts) which could still be dealt with by any organized force with modern technology. If you manage to survive the initial outbreak, and you don't live somewhere like America where some overenthusiastic individual might decide carpet bombing or high-yield conventional explosives are the only option to deal with a large scale outbreak, then it's very likely it will be over quickly enough that you might not even notice it if you lived outside of heavily infected areas.
The biggest worry would always be looters or other people looking to take advantage of the situation to force their will on others. At this point your approach should be the same as any situation with hostile humans; hide if you can, arm yourself and try to ambush if necessary (honestly just completely avoid the conflict and give up what you need to if possible, you can replace food or money, you can't replace your life), and if forced to fight for your life aim for major blood vessels (neck, armpit, groin, etc) with a sharp implement and try to escape immediately afterwards after you've done sufficient damage to ensure your attacker won't be able to follow you (people will bleed out extremely quickly from damage to a major blood vessel you just need to escape immediate retaliation). If they have a weapon, try to get within the reach if it's something longer (like a bat or makeshift spear), if it's a knife or other such short tool wrap your left hand in some thick fabric (like a jumper or hoodie) as quickly as possible and use this to defend yourself while you either try to escape or land a decisive blow, if you know how to grapple and they don't have any friends with them, use the protected hand to cover or hold the knife while you take them down, if you have top position and something to put in the way of the knife you can probably deal with it, if you have a weapon even more so (getting into a full-on knife fight is a very bad idea and it will probably kill both parties, avoid it whenever possible). If your attacker has a firearm, well, just don't live in America, on a serious not, hide, if you are discovered and they haven't immediately killed you, give them what they want, if they get close enough that you can grab the firing mechanism and you actually have the knowledge and training to do so (don't listen to Dusty he's going to get you killed).
Honestly using weapons should be pretty intuitive for most people, but realistically speaking, if you don't have training, avoid fighting wherever possible, especially against other human's. You aren't going to become some hardened warrior by just surviving the initial event, and it takes months of training to get to the level of proficiency necessary to even defend yourself against a somewhat trained opponent (Krav Maga literally teaches people to not freeze and be aggressive, it doesn't actually teach them to fight properly, this initial aggression can throw an assailant off guard, but a trained opponent will just let you charge in then take you apart, most people don't even have this sort of training, let alone legitimate fighting experience). If you have to fight, weapons (even something like basic household chemicals such as bleach can be effective if they hit the eye region), surprise tactics (like throwing the aforementioned bleach in their face while they have the guard down), ambushing someone when they are vulnerable (if someone won't leave the area and seem intent on harm wait till they are preoccupied or need to relieve themselves), and using the environment (e.g. using furniture and doors as barriers while you try to find a weapon) against your assailant are all great force equalizers.
If the person doesn't seem aggressive, don't antagonize them, some people seem to have this "life or death" misconception about self-defence, most people don't want to seriously hurt you, most fights can be avoided, and de-escalation is your friend. Work with people, don't be afraid, be cautious. I see this attitude in Americans mostly, where they feel that the surrounding population is filled with "deadly criminals" to the point that they feel the need to carry a lethal weapon at all times. If you want to survive any crisis you need the help of those around you, and you need to work together. One person alone has a drastically lower chance to survive than a group of people with different skillsets. At the same time get used to observing people and being aware of your surroundings at all times. If someone or something wants to do you violence it will usually be pretty clear, keep an eye on escape routes, never allow yourself to be cornered, and if you are in a group, turn the tables on a lone assailant through teamwork don't just run off, if you absolutely have to run then try to stick together but have one person go on ahead and keep you warned of obstructions while you try to slow your assailant down by locking doors, throwing furniture, etc. The people who survive a crisis situation often do so because they kept a cool head, worked together, and tried to work out a plan, of course many are just lucky, but giving into panic and fear gets people killed moreso than anything (like those who get trampled under foot when people flee without thinking).
Honestly if you ever hear of an outbreak like that and aren't trapped in a city center, get as much food as you can and go camping for a few weeks somewhere with a fresh water supply. Take a radio if possible so you can listen for updates, take your phone with a handheld charger as it's unlikely network signalling will go down globally, and just wait it out. If things are really bad you can try to find other groups nearby through various means (though people are probably going to be more dangerous than any zombie) as long as you scope them out beforehand. If you have a group you can go with, stick together, it's much better to be with people than be alone for a variety of reasons, not least that you will probably go nuts being by yourself in such a stressful scenario.
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I guess it depends on the zombie type in my opinion. If they are slow I’ll take my chances in the city, but if they are fast than I’ll try for an island. But like you said either way we might just end up zombie food.