This is Punk for adults cos they could actually play their instruments ! Henry Rollins came about because he was a MAHOOSIVE super fan of the band and couldn’t believe how fortunate he was to be asked to front the band for a special performance- his well known fav album of all time is The Crack the album that SUS is taken from . I was mad as hell at Malcolm Owen for dying from a heroin overdose as the band were on a stellar trajectory .. but time has mellowed me and allowed me to understand the demons that drove him to that dark place and that it was selfish of me to project my anger and disappointment on to someone who couldn’t cope and was struggling with life . RIP Malcolm 💖 👍🏴
I can understand your frustration, Jay, it's sad when people with promise succumb to those dark thoughts. I think that most men in their lives have one or two moments like that, thankfully most find their way out of it, but sadly some don't.
Jay i totally understand why you were disappointed in him and I'm glad you're not blaming him anymore drugs depression it's not for us to judge some people can handle it and others just dig their hole deeper with no escape been there managed to climb my way out i was lucky i lost many friends to drugs and depression and don't hold any anger towards them it's a dark horrible place to be
Dam it Jay i had know idea i wasn't supposed to be listening to THE RUTS until i grow up it could be years if ever before I'm allowed to listen to them 😜😁
Henry Rollins and Ian Mackaye are two men i really admire stuck to their guns did it on their own terms 👏👏👏 I'd love to meet them just to shake their hands and thank them for never disappointing me staying true to their words
Another awesome Ruts number - thanks for reviewing. As you may or may not know, Ruts drummer Dave Ruffy (probably my favourite drummer currently still out there doing it) and bass player 'Segs' Jennings continue the Ruts in the form of Ruts DC, with Leigh Heggarty joining them on guitar. Despite the fact that time that has moved on (my way of saying we're all a bit older now!) they are, frankly, brilliant and still bring the exact same feeling and passion that the Ruts bought to their performances back in the day. Check them out sometime, but not before you've reviewed Staring At The Rude Boys - I wouldn't want you to inadvertently ruin our viewing pleasure of seeing your first reaction 😉
The Ruts have so many great songs.Shine On Me,Love in Vain, F**K your Brain,Staring at the Rude Boys,Something that I said.Didn't discover them until 1983 and loved them immediately.Of course in Canada ,we were introduced to punk with The Pistols and Clash.Then we heard this and The Stranglers.So many good bands from this era of British punk. From The Sham,Angelic Upstarts,Peter and the TestTube babies, to later Exploited,GBH etc...
Love the Ruts, shame Malcolm Owen OD'D early on. Babylon's burning is my favourite punk song. As a former police officer in the UK, I didn't randomly beat people up as you are hinting at. I did however get stamped on, assaulted and head butted, it's not a one way street
You must admit there were some bad cops back in the day, they fitted anyone up. I've got a clean record but got arrested for having an offensive tattoo and I got a slap in the cells as the tattoo said "Feck Maggie". Also got fitted up a few years later on a trumped up charge of violent disorder which I was cleared of at crown court but would have seen sent down if found guilty by the jury. To be fair, some other police officers came up to me and my wife and apologised and said I should never have been arrested, but that was how risky it was in inner city areas. Good and bad coppers existed. Police admittedly needed to be tough policing Britain in the 70s and 80s, with run down council estates and 40% unemployment. There was a lot of violence back then. A lot were ex-Army back in the 70s and 80s, who had experienced the hatred on the streets of Belfast.
As a fan not only of the tv series The Sweeney but also of their real life counterparts methods I can hear what your saying tbh … I vividly remember as a 17yo Punk getting “detained” and back-handed by a burly Scottish sergeant cos I was part of a drunken unruly mob causing “ fear and alarm “ on our estate ( I was a dick as well as a Punk 🤷♂️) .. but he let me go after that instead of all the tedious night in the cells , paperwork and inevitable waste of time community service . That bloody sore back-hander tempered my thinking about becoming a full time Tadger 😅… I can say that cis Im not a Black youth or Rasta man from the 70’s , that group really did suffer the most awful prejudice and violence at the hands of some seriously questionable racist attacks from the police back then . However … I fully agree the pendulum has swung wildly the opposite way now where the police are so hamstrung with noble but misguided legal shackles that they are barely able to do their job properly now . When a nutty neighbour last night went crazy with a blade you can bet your ass I was glad to see the “ nee naws “ show up in strength and really fast and arrest the tool … who ya gonna call ? Police busters !! 😆 👍🏴
Thank you for doing this, it's always appreciated when you do one of my recommendations. The term 'Sus' in the U.K. means suspect or suspicious. I'm so glad that you're enjoying 'The Ruts' a great band who are overlooked these days, a lot of people know of "Babylon's Burning" by them but that's about it, but there is so much more to them.
Walking home from my part time job as a 17 year old in London I dropped a packet of polos as a police van went past - it screeched to a halt, three coppers leapt out I was thrown to the floor, kicked and punched in the head and thrown in the van, taken to the police station and put in the cells - was accused of throwing away drugs which was a nonsense and after a few hours was realised without charge
I had to check for the dates. This is a quick version of what it says online... In England and Wales, but not Scotland, the SUS law (SUSspected person) allowed the police officer to stop, search and arrest people on suspicion of them being in breach the Vagrancy Act 1824.
a truly great band, a great track about a time around 70s & 80s when the cops 'got you' without any evidence... just being in the wrong place, with the wrong clothes, the wrong haircut.... no comeback then, no Police Complaints Dept......
You got it spot on C n C what the songs about .. this was the days of the feared SPG ( Special Patrol Group ) they were feared by everyone but especially young black men and Rasta’s in particular .. I know the lads have already explained SUS … I should quit this channel now as it will never be as good again as right this very moment !! Super stoked to share this with everyone , those who don’t like it won’t get any pushback from me as I love it so much no one’s else’s opinion could possibly sway or annoy me so have at it 😅… thank you SO much C n C .. n Adam you’ve got great taste too mate ! ✊ 👍🏴
The infamous sus law in the UK. It's funny, but as much as the debate about this was central to the culture of the times, and informed our view of the world, I grew up in a small English town where the population was almost exclusively white, and never met a black person until I went to university, so I can't claim it as a part of my lived experience.
@delorangeade We are from Bradford, so colour was never really an issue because many of our friends are black and Asian. Not just that, but we always have a big Polish community. The real bonus is that you can go into many Bradford restaurants and have foods of the world.
Absolutely fantastic ❤. So true even today. You mentioned Rob Squad the other day, and I came across them doing Rainbow, Temple of the king, which is a favourite of mine and Col's. You really should explore that song, they loved it!
SUS was disproportionately targeted at black male youths and was a major cause of the slew of riots which broke out in England in 1981. (For example within five days 943 people were stopped and searched in Brixton, London prior to the riot there ). The Ruts were all white but like The Clash were aware of how racist the British police were in the late 70s/early 80s and weren’t shy in highlighting that injustice in songs in which reggae was often either predominant or an influence.
The Sus law ....The law that formerly empowered the police to arrest any reputed thief or suspected person found loitering with intent to commit an arrestable offence. This law caused much public concern and was abolished by the Criminal Attempts Act 1981.
Yeah, the law that allowed police to ignore the original intent of the law and gave them a licence to intimidate black people for no reason, other than they were black.
SUS was introduced by Thatcher (who else), allowing police to pick people up purely on the basis of suspicion. Doesn't take a genius to understand how that panned out. Targeting of certain communities. People given too much power will always abuse it. Paul Fox' guitar work on this was magnificent. Don't think I've heard a song represent the sinister nature of its subject matter so well.
I never got to see black flag but did get to see The Rollins Band and have seen Henry Rollins spoken word shows five times over the years. I'm a little bit of a fan boy 😁😎
@@hanierfamily there was a terrible incident around this time in London where a Brazilian guy ( I think he was a electrician to trade actually ) was challenged by an armed response officer in the Tube system and the guy got frightened and jumped over a ticket barrier and was immediately shot dead by an officer , they assumed he was an armed terrorist and didn’t ask any questions , he wasn’t armed nor dangerous and was merely a frightened tourist , Jean Charles de menezes.. his name is burned on to our national shame . It was just after the 7/7 deadly terrorist attacks in London and everyone was paranoid and on high alert .. but shooting dead an unarmed tourist with 8 bullets is unforgivable. 👍🏴
@@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering I just missed that. I got stopped three times on mi way back home fi London. Once in Kings Cross and twice coming oot o Waverley. It wouldnae have bin so bad but the ones in Edinburgh were bloody English. They had bin shipped in for the G7.
Yep ! Like this a lot ! Specially if its having a go at the Plod who are a Disgrace in the UK ! They have been a Corporation for 17 years ! Nuff said . Tis all about the Money . cheers ! and a Hay Nonny Noo
Seems like a fair thing to say about a degree of reggae influence. Not that I'm a musician. There are very faint echoes of Ska. Anyhow. They were a great band.
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This is Punk for adults cos they could actually play their instruments ! Henry Rollins came about because he was a MAHOOSIVE super fan of the band and couldn’t believe how fortunate he was to be asked to front the band for a special performance- his well known fav album of all time is The Crack the album that SUS is taken from . I was mad as hell at Malcolm Owen for dying from a heroin overdose as the band were on a stellar trajectory .. but time has mellowed me and allowed me to understand the demons that drove him to that dark place and that it was selfish of me to project my anger and disappointment on to someone who couldn’t cope and was struggling with life . RIP Malcolm 💖
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I can understand your frustration, Jay, it's sad when people with promise succumb to those dark thoughts. I think that most men in their lives have one or two moments like that, thankfully most find their way out of it, but sadly some don't.
@@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis. very sage and considered words indeed my friend 👌
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Jay i totally understand why you were disappointed in him and I'm glad you're not blaming him anymore drugs depression it's not for us to judge some people can handle it and others just dig their hole deeper with no escape been there managed to climb my way out i was lucky i lost many friends to drugs and depression and don't hold any anger towards them it's a dark horrible place to be
Dam it Jay i had know idea i wasn't supposed to be listening to THE RUTS until i grow up it could be years if ever before I'm allowed to listen to them 😜😁
Henry Rollins and Ian Mackaye are two men i really admire stuck to their guns did it on their own terms 👏👏👏 I'd love to meet them just to shake their hands and thank them for never disappointing me staying true to their words
Another awesome Ruts number - thanks for reviewing.
As you may or may not know, Ruts drummer Dave Ruffy (probably my favourite drummer currently still out there doing it) and bass player 'Segs' Jennings continue the Ruts in the form of Ruts DC, with Leigh Heggarty joining them on guitar. Despite the fact that time that has moved on (my way of saying we're all a bit older now!) they are, frankly, brilliant and still bring the exact same feeling and passion that the Ruts bought to their performances back in the day. Check them out sometime, but not before you've reviewed Staring At The Rude Boys - I wouldn't want you to inadvertently ruin our viewing pleasure of seeing your first reaction 😉
The Ruts have so many great songs.Shine On Me,Love in Vain, F**K your Brain,Staring at the Rude Boys,Something that I said.Didn't discover them until 1983 and loved them immediately.Of course in Canada ,we were introduced to punk with The Pistols and Clash.Then we heard this and The Stranglers.So many good bands from this era of British punk. From The Sham,Angelic Upstarts,Peter and the TestTube babies, to later Exploited,GBH etc...
Love the Ruts, shame Malcolm Owen OD'D early on. Babylon's burning is my favourite punk song. As a former police officer in the UK, I didn't randomly beat people up as you are hinting at. I did however get stamped on, assaulted and head butted, it's not a one way street
You must admit there were some bad cops back in the day, they fitted anyone up. I've got a clean record but got arrested for having an offensive tattoo and I got a slap in the cells as the tattoo said "Feck Maggie". Also got fitted up a few years later on a trumped up charge of violent disorder which I was cleared of at crown court but would have seen sent down if found guilty by the jury. To be fair, some other police officers came up to me and my wife and apologised and said I should never have been arrested, but that was how risky it was in inner city areas. Good and bad coppers existed. Police admittedly needed to be tough policing Britain in the 70s and 80s, with run down council estates and 40% unemployment. There was a lot of violence back then. A lot were ex-Army back in the 70s and 80s, who had experienced the hatred on the streets of Belfast.
@@OldWolfladinteresting and informative testimony there - cheers btw ✊
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As a fan not only of the tv series The Sweeney but also of their real life counterparts methods I can hear what your saying tbh …
I vividly remember as a 17yo Punk getting “detained” and back-handed by a burly Scottish sergeant cos I was part of a drunken unruly mob causing “ fear and alarm “ on our estate ( I was a dick as well as a Punk 🤷♂️) .. but he let me go after that instead of all the tedious night in the cells , paperwork and inevitable waste of time community service . That bloody sore back-hander tempered my thinking about becoming a full time Tadger 😅… I can say that cis Im not a Black youth or Rasta man from the 70’s , that group really did suffer the most awful prejudice and violence at the hands of some seriously questionable racist attacks from the police back then . However … I fully agree the pendulum has swung wildly the opposite way now where the police are so hamstrung with noble but misguided legal shackles that they are barely able to do their job properly now . When a nutty neighbour last night went crazy with a blade you can bet your ass I was glad to see the “ nee naws “ show up in strength and really fast and arrest the tool … who ya gonna call ?
Police busters !! 😆
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Thank you for doing this, it's always appreciated when you do one of my recommendations. The term 'Sus' in the U.K. means suspect or suspicious. I'm so glad that you're enjoying 'The Ruts' a great band who are overlooked these days, a lot of people know of "Babylon's Burning" by them but that's about it, but there is so much more to them.
It means the same here. We were thrown by the periods in between the letters.
“ Something that I said “ falls into your description there Adam 😀
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One of the most underrated bands of all time!! ‘Staring At The Rude Boys’ ‘Dope For Guns’ ‘In a Rut’ to name a few more 🤘🏻
@@samgunston8769 dope for guns - Something that I said are right up there for me behind SUS .. youve great taste Sam ✊
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@@samgunston8769 Both great tracks by them which I've previously recommended to, Chris and Cynthia.
Walking home from my part time job as a 17 year old in London I dropped a packet of polos as a police van went past - it screeched to a halt, three coppers leapt out I was thrown to the floor, kicked and punched in the head and thrown in the van, taken to the police station and put in the cells - was accused of throwing away drugs which was a nonsense and after a few hours was realised without charge
That's awesome that you got what this classic is about. Thanks !
I had to check for the dates. This is a quick version of what it says online...
In England and Wales, but not Scotland, the SUS law (SUSspected person) allowed the police officer to stop, search and arrest people on suspicion of them being in breach the Vagrancy Act 1824.
I always thought it was “ Stopped Under Suspicion “ or “ Searched under suspicion “… but I’m sure your more factually right sir 👌
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Thanks for this, would love you to play "It Was Cold" off the same Ruts album, a chilling track about the horror of nuclear war.
Absolutely spot on 👌
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Ooooooh hell yeah !!!.. this is the pay off C n C .. I’m so thrilled I’ve put clothes on to reply to this !!!
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Search under suspicion
a truly great band, a great track about a time around 70s & 80s when the cops 'got you' without any evidence... just being in the wrong place, with the wrong clothes, the wrong haircut.... no comeback then, no Police Complaints Dept......
Excellent
You got it spot on C n C what the songs about .. this was the days of the feared SPG ( Special Patrol Group ) they were feared by everyone but especially young black men and Rasta’s in particular .. I know the lads have already explained SUS … I should quit this channel now as it will never be as good again as right this very moment !! Super stoked to share this with everyone , those who don’t like it won’t get any pushback from me as I love it so much no one’s else’s opinion could possibly sway or annoy me so have at it 😅… thank you SO much C n C .. n Adam you’ve got great taste too mate ! ✊
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The infamous sus law in the UK. It's funny, but as much as the debate about this was central to the culture of the times, and informed our view of the world, I grew up in a small English town where the population was almost exclusively white, and never met a black person until I went to university, so I can't claim it as a part of my lived experience.
Where are you from, Del?
@@colrhodes377 Ironically, the Black Country, right on the Staffordshire border.
@delorangeade We are from Bradford, so colour was never really an issue because many of our friends are black and Asian. Not just that, but we always have a big Polish community. The real bonus is that you can go into many Bradford restaurants and have foods of the world.
@@delorangeade Another Black Country lad here, Wolverhampton in fact.
@@delorangeadeawww brilliant .. cmon del , say “ I like curry and chips alright ! “.. in your inimitable style .. 😆
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Great song. In a similar vein: Securicor by Crass and the brilliant acoustic version by Jeffrey Lewis. "I am private in a private army".
Absolutely fantastic ❤. So true even today.
You mentioned Rob Squad the other day, and I came across them doing Rainbow, Temple of the king, which is a favourite of mine and Col's. You really should explore that song, they loved it!
SUS was disproportionately targeted at black male youths and was a major cause of the slew of riots which broke out in England in 1981. (For example within five days 943 people were stopped and searched in Brixton, London prior to the riot there ). The Ruts were all white but like The Clash were aware of how racist the British police were in the late 70s/early 80s and weren’t shy in highlighting that injustice in songs in which reggae was often either predominant or an influence.
The Sus law ....The law that formerly empowered the police to arrest any reputed thief or suspected person found loitering with intent to commit an arrestable offence. This law caused much public concern and was abolished by the Criminal Attempts Act 1981.
Yeah, the law that allowed police to ignore the original intent of the law and gave them a licence to intimidate black people for no reason, other than they were black.
SUS was introduced by Thatcher (who else), allowing police to pick people up purely on the basis of suspicion. Doesn't take a genius to understand how that panned out. Targeting of certain communities. People given too much power will always abuse it. Paul Fox' guitar work on this was magnificent. Don't think I've heard a song represent the sinister nature of its subject matter so well.
That is incorrect. The SUS laws were passed many decades before Thatcher. They were largely carried out in occupied Ireland.
@@JamesJohannes-l6w Applied by Thatcher then.
@srodgers66 Yes, no doubt.
I never got to see black flag but did get to see The Rollins Band and have seen Henry Rollins spoken word shows five times over the years. I'm a little bit of a fan boy 😁😎
Things were really rough in England with " The Prevention Of Terrorism Act " that was inappropriately used often .. like " The Patriot Act "
That was a really bad time for a lot o folk.
Especially Brazilian Plumbers ..🤯
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@@hanierfamily there was a terrible incident around this time in London where a Brazilian guy ( I think he was a electrician to trade actually ) was challenged by an armed response officer in the Tube system and the guy got frightened and jumped over a ticket barrier and was immediately shot dead by an officer , they assumed he was an armed terrorist and didn’t ask any questions , he wasn’t armed nor dangerous and was merely a frightened tourist , Jean Charles de menezes.. his name is burned on to our national shame . It was just after the 7/7 deadly terrorist attacks in London and everyone was paranoid and on high alert .. but shooting dead an unarmed tourist with 8 bullets is unforgivable.
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@@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering I just missed that. I got stopped three times on mi way back home fi London. Once in Kings Cross and twice coming oot o Waverley. It wouldnae have bin so bad but the ones in Edinburgh were bloody English. They had bin shipped in for the G7.
Yep ! Like this a lot ! Specially if its having a go at the Plod who are a Disgrace in the UK !
They have been a Corporation for 17 years ! Nuff said .
Tis all about the Money . cheers ! and a Hay Nonny Noo
I totally agree with you Chris , there IS a reggae vibe going on in that track .. stick to your guns mate 😅
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Ruts - Jah War
Ruts - Dope for Guns
@@assulussentinela2983 hell yeah ! ✊
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Seems like a fair thing to say about a degree of reggae influence. Not that I'm a musician. There are very faint echoes of Ska.
Anyhow. They were a great band.
S.U.S. - Suspect ..
SUS laws were passed in occupied Ireland. A LONG time before more recent history in the UK.
Talking about SUS you should review Sonny's Letter by Linton Kwesi Johnson 💥
Bang on description..5/4 time..reggae beat entirely.
Whoever suggested this needs to be banned from the channel for crimes against music 🎶 😂😂😂😂🏴🏴☠️🇬🇧
Get fakked…. 😅
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Hey guys, the ruts are an awesome band. I suggest you guys give the Stranglers London Lady a review. It's from their first album and its brilliant!