Sir Roger Scruton was an extraordinary man. I admire his dedication, his preparedness and the higher style with he pursued his profession. Rest in Peace!
As a school teacher, I have the opportunity to inspire young minds. My work is structured within a generous curriculum and within that I have brought in many of Professor Scruton's observations, teachings and guidance. He really does live on.
Brilliant reflections on Art, literature and music. Whatever one's political leanings; no one can surely refute this man's simplistic adherence to aesthetics and truth; spoken with such intelligence and eloquent. I could listen to him all day long.
OMG... you sir have just introduced this wrench to a gem of a resource! best 1/2 hour spent listening to a "man" speak in a long time... way to go Chris
I'd love to be infinitesimally as clear-headed to know (objectively) and even more importantly to feel (subjectively) where to put the cursors separating good artistry from failed art and sincere art from mere fakery, but Scruton's way of sounding the alarm bell is salutary.
‘Very little faking in the society described by homer’ Don’t know about that, you can argue whether Odysseus is lying or faking but the example he uses in King Lear isn’t far off from the suitors faking their admiration of Telemachus in the Odyssey, no?
If you look at the Iliad the heroes are entirely honest: Achilles, for one, is practically incapable of a lie. He says at one point to Odysseus (9.312-3): ἐχθρὸς γάρ μοι κεῖνος ὁμῶς Ἀΐδαο πύλῃσιν ὅς χ᾽ ἕτερον μὲν κεύθῃ ἐνὶ φρεσίν, ἄλλο δὲ εἴπῃ - 'hateful to me as the gates of Hades, is the man who hides one thing in his mind and says another.' Achilles is by his nature incredibly stubborn and forthright, hence why he is so outraged by the fake Agamemnon, and it's one of the most powerful elements of the poem that he approaches his youthful and imminent demise with such self-conviction, self-knowledge, and honesty. As for the Odyssey, admittedly there is a great deal more deception, but Odysseus only lies in so far as he deceives untrustworthy people, or when he doesn't know who he can trust - he is a man entirely on his own and trickery is a necessary tool for his own survival. He doesn't really live in Homeric society until when he is restored to it at the very end; The Iliad is a much more useful text in this regard. And as for the suitors, well obviously they are fakes because they are the bad guys, and inevitably they receive their just comeuppance.
This discussion is very true but i feel like it will be censored by the modernists. Beauty from our culture, our history, our language and our art and architecture is important and is important to our life and happiness. There clearly is a discord in our society with our architecture and art.
How was Brexit a big loss for Britain? By that statement alone- it shows what pedestrian mind you have.. an ant who cannot see what’s in front of the stone.
@Colmillo Blanco Thankyou Sir. I agree with you- It was an egregious conflation and an insult to Sir Roger. I actually think it was a petty afterthought by a Pro European who quite liked Sir Roger Scruton but hated Brexit. It baffles me how immature and pathetic these people are - who are willing to use the subject of a Great Mans death to propagate their political ideals. Nevertheless; thanks again for your support. My Regards and respect .
@Colmillo Blanco I agree with everything you have said Sir. We absolutely have lost our way in the West ; above all we are Spiritually lost and this has led to a complete breakdown in our moral and intellectual fabric. Which in turn has led to the current lockdown situation where most people have slept walked into Totalitarianism and Oblivion. Please keep your independent thoughts and individuality- do not let the herd influence you. May I recommend Nietzsche ( if you’ haven’t indulged already) of which You can also find good quality Introductions, Summary’s and Documentaries on TH-cam. He explains a lot what’s happening today. I also agree with you regarding Eastern Europe; they still understand the dangers of group-think and collective dogma Thanks for your intelligent thoughts and fierce individuality Sir.
@Colmillo Blanco Hello my friend; yes I am an Englishman- but I am living in Switzerland at the moment. Thankyou for your reply - I agree that Nietzsche was ultimately fighting with himself and Basel is a sad footnote in his life because of this struggle. I am very aware of Schopenhauer also; an incredible mind who really lit up the torture of life and tried to offer a pathway to a small serenity. My favorite writer is Thomas Mann who was influenced heavily by both Neitzsche and Schopenhauer (and other artists and philosophers) Mann was struggling to find a balance between many sides of his personality . You’re English is incredibly good by the way- and where are you writing from?
@Colmillo Blanco Hello Sir; yes I have heard from many people that Germany has been the worst “ Western “ Country regarding the Corona measures. I think everywhere has had it bad- but Germany has had the longest and most stringent (and confusing) measures- Merkel seems overwhelmed by the situation. Switzerland is ok but still not “ normal “.. However; “ Ski season” was open as usual ! There’s a lot about this “situation” that is not clear for many reasons ; and it’s obvious to me there are hidden motives. I agree with you; the world has gone completely crazy and it’s heading quickly into oblivion. I think Sir Roger left at the right time... I feel these are the times that we need great thinkers to help Civilization .. otherwise it’s not looking good for the future as the “ fabric” of Society is crumbling already.
Art wrapping itself in metaphysics is an act of delusion of grandeur. This new idea of what art serves, that is, either God or man, separates real art from self aggrandizing, self worship. If your serve God with your art it is an act of worship. If your art serves the self it is an act of self worship, and there can be no redemption outside of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. All action outside of the Christian Gospel is idolatry, which is the foundation of the modern, post-Enlightenment world.
We miss you! Your beautiful mind, your honesty and your wisdom! Rest in Peace, Sir Roger.
He will sadly be missed. I’m rather late to the work of Scruton but he was amazing at bringing into words the decline of the art of modernity.
Rest in Peace, you beautiful man.
Sir Roger will always be a true beautiful soul that shines light🕊
Sir Roger Scruton was an extraordinary man. I admire his dedication, his preparedness and the higher style with he pursued his profession. Rest in Peace!
As a school teacher, I have the opportunity to inspire young minds. My work is structured within a generous curriculum and within that I have brought in many of Professor Scruton's observations, teachings and guidance. He really does live on.
Yes, Sir Roger lives on
Thank You for doing this!
The best summary of modern art I’ve ever heard
Thank you Sir Roger Scruton for your insight and affirmation that truth and beauty are possible in a world that barely recognises it.
All I hear in his words is truth. Unapologetic, clean, sharp truth. Revealed with the calmness of a focused seeker.
Brilliant reflections on Art, literature and music. Whatever one's political leanings; no one can surely refute this man's simplistic adherence to aesthetics and truth; spoken with such intelligence and eloquent. I could listen to him all day long.
No truer words weee ever spoken concerning true art vs debased modern “Art”
OMG... you sir have just introduced this wrench to a gem of a resource!
best 1/2 hour spent listening to a "man" speak in a long time... way to go Chris
Happy to share.
Thank you Sir Roger - 🙏
THANK YOU for posting this.
I just saw it. It felt like someone dear to me passed away.
Thank you for sharing this!
Sir Roger would not be allowed on the BBC today. Too knowledgeable, too truthful, too erudite, male and most of all, White.
Which is unfair and isn't freedom of speech. They marginalize him and censor him which is wrong.
Also heterossexual
Wow!❤
Love it
No way... He passed? I am deeply shocked and saddened.
The age of modernism which will come and continue to advance but have forgotten about the aesthetic the organic beauty.
Love this
I'd love to be infinitesimally as clear-headed to know (objectively) and even more importantly to feel (subjectively) where to put the cursors separating good artistry from failed art and sincere art from mere fakery, but Scruton's way of sounding the alarm bell is salutary.
Meaningful
I’m glad he didn’t have to endure the covid 19 nonsense
‘Very little faking in the society described by homer’
Don’t know about that, you can argue whether Odysseus is lying or faking but the example he uses in King Lear isn’t far off from the suitors faking their admiration of Telemachus in the Odyssey, no?
If you look at the Iliad the heroes are entirely honest: Achilles, for one, is practically incapable of a lie. He says at one point to Odysseus (9.312-3): ἐχθρὸς γάρ μοι κεῖνος ὁμῶς Ἀΐδαο πύλῃσιν
ὅς χ᾽ ἕτερον μὲν κεύθῃ ἐνὶ φρεσίν, ἄλλο δὲ εἴπῃ - 'hateful to me as the gates of Hades, is the man who hides one thing in his mind and says another.' Achilles is by his nature incredibly stubborn and forthright, hence why he is so outraged by the fake Agamemnon, and it's one of the most powerful elements of the poem that he approaches his youthful and imminent demise with such self-conviction, self-knowledge, and honesty.
As for the Odyssey, admittedly there is a great deal more deception, but Odysseus only lies in so far as he deceives untrustworthy people, or when he doesn't know who he can trust - he is a man entirely on his own and trickery is a necessary tool for his own survival. He doesn't really live in Homeric society until when he is restored to it at the very end; The Iliad is a much more useful text in this regard. And as for the suitors, well obviously they are fakes because they are the bad guys, and inevitably they receive their just comeuppance.
3:37 John Rambo was a natural prodigy?
16:28 love it lol
his tirade on kitsch is epic
This discussion is very true but i feel like it will be censored by the modernists. Beauty from our culture, our history, our language and our art and architecture is important and is important to our life and happiness. There clearly is a discord in our society with our architecture and art.
RIP
Posterity will make clear what was 2020’s biggest loss for Britain: Brexit, or the passing away of Roger Scruton
How was Brexit a big loss for Britain? By that statement alone- it shows what pedestrian mind you have.. an ant who cannot see what’s in front of the stone.
@Colmillo Blanco Thankyou Sir. I agree with you- It was an egregious conflation and an insult to Sir Roger. I actually think it was a petty afterthought by a Pro European who quite liked Sir Roger Scruton but hated Brexit.
It baffles me how immature and pathetic these people are - who are willing to use the subject of a Great Mans death to propagate their political ideals.
Nevertheless; thanks again for your support.
My Regards and respect .
@Colmillo Blanco I agree with everything you have said Sir.
We absolutely have lost our way in the West ; above all we are Spiritually lost and this has led to a complete breakdown in our moral and intellectual fabric.
Which in turn has led to the current lockdown situation where most people have slept walked into Totalitarianism and Oblivion.
Please keep your independent thoughts and individuality- do not let the herd influence you.
May I recommend Nietzsche ( if you’ haven’t indulged already) of which You can also find good quality Introductions, Summary’s and Documentaries on TH-cam. He explains a lot what’s happening today.
I also agree with you regarding Eastern Europe; they still understand the dangers of group-think and collective dogma
Thanks for your intelligent thoughts and fierce individuality Sir.
@Colmillo Blanco Hello my friend; yes I am an Englishman- but I am living in Switzerland at the moment.
Thankyou for your reply - I agree that Nietzsche was ultimately fighting with himself and Basel is a sad footnote in his life because of this struggle.
I am very aware of Schopenhauer also; an incredible mind who really lit up the torture of life and tried to offer a pathway to a small serenity.
My favorite writer is Thomas Mann who was influenced heavily by both Neitzsche and Schopenhauer (and other artists and philosophers) Mann was struggling to find a balance between many sides of his personality .
You’re English is incredibly good by the way- and where are you writing from?
@Colmillo Blanco Hello Sir; yes I have heard from many people that Germany has been the worst “ Western “ Country regarding the Corona measures.
I think everywhere has had it bad- but Germany has had the longest and most stringent (and confusing) measures- Merkel seems overwhelmed by the situation.
Switzerland is ok but still not “ normal “.. However; “ Ski season” was open as usual !
There’s a lot about this “situation” that is not clear for many reasons ; and it’s obvious to me there are hidden motives.
I agree with you; the world has gone completely crazy and it’s heading quickly into oblivion.
I think Sir Roger left at the right time...
I feel these are the times that we need great thinkers to help Civilization .. otherwise it’s not looking good for the future as the “ fabric” of Society is crumbling already.
Sir Roger Scruton is the Luc Ferry of the english tongue.
Very similar voice.
The great RS. All public art is left wing obsessed.
Art wrapping itself in metaphysics is an act of delusion of grandeur. This new idea of what art serves, that is, either God or man, separates real art from self aggrandizing, self worship. If your serve God with your art it is an act of worship. If your art serves the self it is an act of self worship, and there can be no redemption outside of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. All action outside of the Christian Gospel is idolatry, which is the foundation of the modern, post-Enlightenment world.
His politics were bullshit, but very few could articulate the purposes of art so eloquently.