Thanks to brilliant.org/TheCynicalHistorian/ for sponsoring this video. Click the link to get 20% off an annual premium subscription Click "read more" for further info, corrections, and bibliography Thanks for watching! Please consider supporting the channel by buying merch: teespring.com/stores/the-cynical-historian Or by donating to my Patreon: www.patreon.com/CynicalHistorian *[reserved for errata]* 9:10 - Muslims participated in a slave trade that included slavs by this time, but I was referring to their territorial extent. Saqaliba came from Byzantine and Viking slavers before the 11th century. Here’s an article on it: www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-journal-of-middle-east-studies/article/what-does-the-slave-trade-in-the-saqaliba-tell-us-about-early-islamic-slavery/EDDD35D8FD593AB8D576D11550CF62C6 (thx drogenschlechtmhkay) 14:10 - black emperors are currently hotly debated, and I made it sound settled. In fact, it appears that more scholars agree that the Severans were more brown than black. But you may decide for yourself with this preserved painting of the family: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Portrait_of_family_of_Septimius_Severus__-Altes_Museum-__Berlin_-_Germany_2017.jpg Here are some related videos: 10 Common slavery myths: th-cam.com/video/R1FO9MqWugY/w-d-xo.html comments response elaboration: th-cam.com/video/Rzs62Y0qJ0o/w-d-xo.html Project Africa video on Guns Germs and Steel: th-cam.com/video/2OQmvRUdr3U/w-d-xo.html *Bibliography* Ira Berlin, _Generations of Captivity: A History of African-American Slaves_ (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 2003). amzn.to/2tYB3ef David Davis, _Inhuman Bondage: The Rise and Fall of Slavery in the New World_ (Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press, 2006). amzn.to/2KRoJpM _A Companion to Ancient History,_ 2 vols., edited by Andrew Erskine (Malden, Mass.: Blackwell Publishing, 2009). amzn.to/3zrju5p Natalie Davis, _Slaves on Screen: Film and Historical Vision_ (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 2002). amzn.to/2udiKkU Stanley Harrold, _Border War: Fighting over Slavery before the Civil War_ (Chapel Hill: The University of North Carolina Press, 2010). amzn.to/2xbEKSp
I would get it if a white person were to be making these claims as some way to protect their own ego. But why the fuck is a black woman defending this stuff and evidently taking this money from PragerU? It´s like if the dinosaurs voted in favour of the Chixculub asteroid.
Owens is capitalizing on general lack of competition for a right wing correspondent on slavery and racism. There are plenty of right wing Ashkenazi Jews, but how many had a grandfather telling stories of brave Nazi soldiers wbo rescued him from an AntiFa attic in Ukraine? They gave him a job and kept him safe from the reds. Fifty year later, U.S. welcomed me as a Soviet refugee, and made me a citizen after asking if I was ever a communist. I decided not to mention that I had it worse at the hands of fascist sympathizers. Then Candace and i can comment how wearing a mask is true slavery and holocaust from which only the GOP can save us. All part of my Truth in History Studies.
The “we didn’t invent slavery” is such a weird argument. The Nazis didn’t invent warfare or genocide but yet are the universal reference for both? I can’t go to a judge and use “I didn’t invent robbery” as an argument…
It is strange to hear such nonsense considering slaves were traded. You need a market for slavery to be a thing and Europeans/Americans were eager customers. Everyone involved was equally to blame.
I thought of this comment today watching Donald Trump's paltry attempt to elaborate on the pre election audio leak when asked about his " Pussy grabbing " penchant. He literally said we have had stars for millions of years and sometimes its fortunate and unfortunate ( that they grab pussy ) I kid you not. White Supremacy is narcissism played as a group sport
You got to understand that the Nazis can be separated from Germans the problem is that not many people can seperate slave owner from white person which causes a hateful divide that I've seen personally
@@kingdicehoi4lubu746 Eh, that's painting with a broad brush. Most people don't think all white people owned slaves. That's more of a far right strawman. In fact, they often believe it themselves - when people talk about reparations for slavery, where all previous slave owners should pay out to families of descendants on slaves, the Right begins screeching! But in reality, it wouldn't affect most white people - so as a white person, I don't mind reparations :) My family never owned slaves, so it wouldn't hurt me in any way.
@@thebeast8429 but there had never been a system of slavery quite like the one used in America. Plus that argument is really a copout argument. It's like a thief that stole something from you saying that "people steal things" and "you're not the only one to have things stolen from them". Slavery happened over a century ago but many of the institutions that benefitted from it still exist and we still have issues stemming from the Jim Crow era of segregation. Some communities are still segregated along the same lines that existed 60 years ago. Slavery and Jim Crow is at the origin of it all.
@@thebeast8429there are some that do blame all white people but there are many that don't. Black people have also rewarded and praised white people for being empathetic to their cause. I also think that it's not really possible to know what most black people think. The media will typically show the most extreme cases. Same goes for white people. but we can gauge society by the things that are allowed to pass.
@@incubus_the_man hell they had a black emperor sure there were racists but Roman slavery was indeed based off of position, also slavery still is bad regardless
"Africans did slavery too" okay, but in order to make money from those slaves, someone would need to BUY them. It was wrong to sell people AND wrong to buy people. "They did it too" doesn't absolve you of guilt.
Exactly. Also, people like Candacd will condemn black people for doing slavery too, but they'll sing the praises or white abolitionists and claim that "white people" ended slavery even though there were also a lot of black people who fought to end slavery, both in America and Africa. And they also seem to forget that those "white people" who apparently ended slavery, did so against the wishes of other white people. They weren't arguing with aliens. They were arguing with other white people who wanted to keep slavery.
There's also the fact that "Africans did slavery" seems to gloss over that Africa is a continent & not a country like America, Rome or what we now consider to be south Korean & there were entire countries, tribes & other civilizations within Africa that were against slavery from the get go.
@@siphomnisi3842 wasn’t America supposed to be designing a more perfect union? Why shouldn’t we want to be better than countries that use slavery? Why are we exceptional in every other way, but because others had slaves, we were justified too?
@@krbrown948 Please explain to me how Prager U is educational and promotes learning about history and science? And doesn't reinforce people's beliefs and views?
@@OMJ_the_Show well, it's not really an echo chamber if there are people with various views present. Why would a liberal come to a PragerU vid if they weren't trying to understand other people's views and thoughts. Problem is, this shit isn't just someone's opinion, this is just a vid trying to make white people feel like American slavery wasn't really that bad, which is some crazy shit but not really surprising nowing Prager.
@@liveking12 Exactly, it doesn't show a different perspective, or history that isn't discussed, just there to make certain people feel good about themselves and their beliefs
On the Slavic parts of the video. "Slavs ... all white by the way" I'd like to point to the 1500 year history of Slavs not being considered "white" at least in the racial connotations of the word. My most favourite quote is that the Slavs are "an intellectually inferior race of obscure Asiatic origin". (Primary Chronicle, Cross and Showbowitz-Wetzor, p. 36. ). The word slave coming from the word Slav was debated as several other plausible origins were proposed but by now the historical consensus has pretty much come to the conclusion that the word slave most definetly came from the word Slav as medieval sources about Slavs are sometimes even unclear whether they mean slaves or Slavs as for a while they just used the same word Sclaveni (meaning Slavs), and its many variations, to mean both Slavs and slaves (Slavery After Rome 500-1100, Alice Rio). The word Slav (and its many variations in early medieval sources) either comes from the Slavs themselves or, if you believe Curta and some other Toronto School proponents, it was an ethnos given to them by the Greeks i.e. the Byzantines. The word slave which is derived from the word Slav, therefore, either came to France from the Greeks or from the Slavs that were enslaved and brought to France and called themselves Slavs. It could also be a combination of the two, hard to say. Than from France the word came to England due to the Normans. Also, Muslims, by far, were the largest owners of Slavic slaves as they preferred them for multiplicities of reasons. The numbers of Slavic slaves owned by Muslims could easily have been in the millions as attested to by the sheer amount of dirhams found all across Europe which we know, from multiple sources (e.g. Ibin Fadlan Voyage), were mostly used by the Arabs to pay for Slavic slaves (Dirhams for Slaves, Marek Jankowiak). However, Muslims, outside of very few occasions, never enslaved Slavs themselves (in the medieval period). They bought them from other peoples who did the enslaving, peoples like the Varangians (Norse/Vikings), various Western Europeans, various nomads like Khazars, and Slavs themselves most notably Bohemians. All this was an extreme oversimplification of a much larger topic which I plan to do a video on early next year so if you're interested (wink wink nudge nudge, shameless plug) subscribe to my channel :)
That's the rub when you talk about "white" people as a monolithic block isn't it? It perpetuates a melanin based division so simplistic and stupid even colonial and antebellum Americans rejected it. But now it is almost universally accepted.
Enslaving Bohemians... Interesting point. I never heard about it. I am really curious. Its probably missing not very known piece of our history. Can you kindly share some source? (Eng, Cz, Sk) I want know more about this topic. Thank you.
I think what's also funny about the slav comment is a few civil rights groups I've seen consider Slavs a people of color because of the whole history with slavery as you pointed out.
@@annexcendent8511 One of the papers I stated in the comment Dirhams for slaves. Investigating the Slavic slave trade in the tenth century , by Marek Jankowiak, is a good source for that. For the main primary source see Ibrahim b. Ya‘qub's work who talked about the importance of Prague as a slave market. For Bavarians buying slaves from Bohemia see Hammer, Carl I. A Large-scale Slave Society of the Early Middle Ages : Slaves and Their Families in Early-medieval Bavaria For a Czech paper on the Bohemian slave trade see OTROKÁŘSTVÍ V NEJSTARŠÍ ČESKÉ HAGIOGRAFII A HISTORIOGRAFII Bc. Lucie Uhrová
One of my favorite counters to people like Candass is asking what the equivalent of segregation/lynchings/discrimination have to do with other civilizations of the past or how African slave traders caused the U.S. to segregate for so long. Being shocked that Africans tribes had conflicts is like being shocked the French and British fought/conquered each other just because they were both "white."
You're exactly right. They bring up other countries and civilizations only to deflect attention from our own ugly racist history. It's all a smokescreen. ...."Nothing to see here, folks!"
exactly - she ignores all that other stuff on purpose - i do not even think she believes the stuff she saying - i bet most conservatives leaders do not believe the stuff they are saying
More people need to know how widespread the lying is and how to tell. I'm glad there are educated folks out there fighting against PragerU and similar liars.
How sadly true. Historians are now reactionaries... in the sense that they need to stop what they are doing and react to appallingly bad takes instead of charting new history. Damn the internet some days.
Bud black conservatives are still black. Thinking that their pigment is somehow altered when they aren't liberals is an incredibly racist thing to say.
It’s so sad to see people trying to justify slavery. Those who try and say “sLaVrEY ISnt bAD!” are probably the most ignorant people you could meet and worst considering they are racist most of the time they try to justify it.
I wish people like Candace would understand that while yes we’re aware slavery “didn’t start with black people”, by no means does it make our history or our struggles any less important. I grow tired of people undermining the black American struggle. They use someone like Candace to feel less guilty because “a black person said it”.
I agree with people thinking it’s ok because a Black person said it I find that a little weird how there’s a different reaction based on color. But we also have to admit and learn about the fact that 10x more white people were enslaved by Black ppl in the North African slave trade the rest of the world is learning the opposite to the west and something that we were never taught in school or never see in the media is how Black people have been enslaved for 2000 years and still are enslaved by Arabs today! The slavery of Black ppl in Arab countries will never end if we ignore it and go on acting like only we in the west know what racism feels like. Anti Blackness is world wide.
@@OriginalBeauty-gp1oj The sole reason PragerU made this video is to hide the fact that the United States of America was founded on white supremacy. Starting with the genocide of indigenous brown people and immediately followed by the dehumanization of black people.
@@donyoung7874 The Alt-Right is Intense, i hope were all updated on that, using available Info-Sources to their fullest? Info-Sources like videos like 'Marjorie Taylor Greene Has DEEPLY Disturbing Views' by Telltale Fireside? PragerU was covered by so many, i dont think i have to say anything about that, but lemme say that Some More News is a good TH-camr to be informed about all kindso f Issues, local or global. That Guy keeps you updated on Everything from Crops to LGBT.
Other things Aristotle believed were true: - Men have more teeth than women. - Heavy objects fall faster than light objects. - Men's blood is hotter than women's blood. - The earth is the center of the universe. - The earth and everything in it existed for all eternity and will exist for all eternity. - Some animals spontaneously come into being from mud and earth; they don't reproduce. - There are a total of seven heavenly bodies, which are perfect and never change. - The heart is the organ of reason and intellect. - The function of the brain is to cool the blood.
@Jordan Spencer...Clearly, you know nothing of history and are just as daft as Candice or maybe a good old fashion grifter...AGAIN, like she is if you don't know she just served up a big ol pile of horse manure in that video.
@@HollerScholar Glad you can smell and see bs but unfortunately PissU is trying to reframe historical things in a conservative lens like that fascism is somehow left wing or that the real danger is from the left and not the neo nazi right wing ultra crazies.
My father was a child of southern Italian immigrants. He was born in 1930. As a young man, he was denied jobs because he wasn’t white. Some historians have estimated that as much as a third of the Roman Empire consisted of slaves. As an American of Italian descent, there are certain to be Roman slaves among my ancestors. Should I then compare myself to those people in the U.S. who are descendants of African slaves? Should I compare my middle class circumstances to those of economically distressed descendants of African slaves in the U.S. today and claim that everybody has an equal opportunity to succeed? The answer is “no”. African Americans have historically been treated differently because of the color of their skin. They continue to be treated differently today because of the color of their skin although there has been considerable improvement. Despite my slave ancestors and the discrimination my father experienced, nobody treats me as anything other than white. I don’t know why some people have a hard time seeing the truth of this issue.
dude when i started reading this comment i thought it was gonna go in a way different direction. thank you for understanding the bare minimum of racism
Poor Rome, building an entire empire on the backs of horrifyingly brutalized slaves and not even being acknowledged for the effort all that mass-enslavement of defeated cities and tribes took... ;(
Yeah it's typical how when they talk about the history of slavery but leave out that difference European groups enlsaved their enemies like the Vikings and Romans. Here they only mention it when it's from outside forces like the Mongols or Turks
As a Mexican, I think they forgot about slavery in the Americas prior to the Spanish conquest, in fact it's one of the reasons Cortés had it easier, because the enemies of the Aztecs allied with him to fend them off and defeat them, then Cortés turned on his erstwhile indigenous allies and practiced genocide with them
@Kosch GM Pinpoint it please, because all I hear her say is that it was only 9th century Muslims and later Ottoman Turks, who enslaved Slavic people. She doesn't mention Norse, the Italian merchants or other Slavic tribes, who also supplied the Middle East with Slavic slaves
@Kosch GM For once you are right. He should be blamed for it. He should not even be, such an unholy mixture should have never been born. I’ll have to rid my home of such imperfections.
@@martinp3166 There are so many omissions, but also some by Cynic here - 9th century Muslims did have access to Slavs through the Norse who enslaved them and sold them in places as far away as Persia, and later on North Africa. The Abbasids also used Slav mercenaries in this period, so saying they did not have access to them is nonsense.
Owens also conveniently leaves out how it was European demand for slave labor that exacerbated slave raids in Africa. Europeans provided more incentives for African slavers which made slavery even more profitable for them.
There was already a slave trade within Africa since the middle ages. A lot of the slave traffic was redirected to the Atlantic once European demand increased.
Funny how Candice comments on "Race Hustlers" yet the only reason she's even relevant with conservatives is literally because of her race and nothing else.
There are plenty of conservatives who are people of color that few Conservatives think of on a daily basis like Owens. Have you ever heard of Michelle Steel? Probably not. She's if anything more of an outlier than Owens cuz she's an Asian American GOP representative from California, the state you'd least expect a person of color to be a Republican. And yet despite that, she's virtually irrelevant to Conservatives. The primary reason Candace Owens is popular among Conservatives is cuz she's the Conservative version of AOC: an outspoken black woman with a bossy attitude. Not to mention she's part of the Daily Wire, a major conservative media outlet that gets millions of views daily, meaning people hear from her daily and spread the word on who she is. Yes, her being a black conservative plays it's part, but just remember it takes more than that to be on conservatives' radar.
@@yourmom9951 I'd say that it was more a collective of people that ended slavery in America then just white people, I mean they legit had all types fighting in the civil war for it, so saying that white people ended slavery is not really accurate at all. They were involved in ending it yea, but like...there was also a ton of them trying to keep it around.
Prager U knows they don't need Sources. They know their audience don't care..and won't look. They know their audience is only looking for things that confirm their biases.
@@nutboy93 Oh I’m sorry you don’t think you’re being just a little ridiculous? As though it was the Americans who really went out of their way to make slavery cruel? Stop.
@@endersdragon34 All the republican's are. Else they wouldn't be republicans and it wouldn't take them till the same shit happens to them to suddenly have issues with it being done.
It is telling that the focus is "slavery isn't about race" (true in a vacuum) and yet the first two points are "white people did not invent slaves" and "white people freed slaves." In the American context, it is sad that we view racism as the legacy of slavery and not slavery as the legacy of racism.
Yeah. The reason the US kept up the enslavement of blacks for so long was basically racism. They hated black people and didn't want them to be members of society of equal standing. While the 'North' faction may have generally been against slavery, most of them weren't extremely passionate about the issue nor cared enough to actually effect any change. Even then, most of them didn't want blacks to have equal status or participate in their society. I've noticed that most 'incorrect' beliefs people hold are usually held because they want to believe those things are true, rather than them acting in bad faith with malicious or manipulative reasons. They don't want to believe certain groups of people they identify with or like were responsible for terrible things. Or, alternatively, they don't want to believe certain groups of people they don't like were actually responsible for good things. Because to do so means that beliefs they hold are actually wrong. Just like any other thing even tangentially related to politics, often times people do not have a proper understanding of the thing and instead just interpret it to fit with their beliefs and/or worldview. You hate white people? Then whites are especially evil and the grandmasters of slavery (I have seen people say things like this before IRL and online). You want to take pride in your southern heritage? Then you choose to believe the people who incorrectly say the civil war was about states rights (these are the people who aren't racist but still wave the Confederate flag) instead of the correct/real reasons it happened, so that you can continue believing 'your' group in the past weren't 'evil'. You are extremely, probably overly, proud of being 'black', but there aren't many/any widely know historically significant things ancient African civilizations have done that are known in the western sphere? Then you start believing wackos when they start claiming that the Samurai were actually all black because it makes you feel good (these people are hilarious but also sad). The thing about slavery in general and American slavery is that it is a complex issue that has a lot of history and nuance to it. And there are groups all over the political spectrum that hold an oversimplified and/or incorrect understanding of the issue because it confirms their beliefs and view of how the world is and was.
@@liarwithagun it’s more accurate to say that for there constitution to make sense and their ideas if freedom to not be hypocritical, they had to teach that these people weren’t equal as human, and that’s why the race was considered no more than animals
This reminds me of one of Stephen Colbert's comments on The Colbert Report where he was "tallying up" white vs black accomplishments and went "Let's give white people 1 point for winning the war to end slavery, and another point for losing the war to keep slavery. Hmm, funny how there were no points for black people in that one." Except he said it as a joke.
@@samr6408 the union was ending slavery. The confederates were fighting for states rights and defending from the war of northern aggression. (Let's ignore what was the main state right they were fighting to defend, and let's ignore the change of narrative between these two sentences.)
I remember seeing a sculpture that was put at the bottom of a reef, depicting men and women in chains, and the title was "for those who chose death over bondage". I also have a friend who visited one of the slave holding prisons in Ghana and they said it was one of the most heartbreaking things they've ever seen. Especially how matter of fact the tour guide was about everything.
It's Eastern Rome, the pagan steppe nomads, and the Italian city states that enslaved and traded Slavs in the black sea for much of the time period following the 900s she's implying. Muslims didn't dominate the trade until 1. The conversion of the Golden Horde (whose trade was still facilitated by Italian traders) and 2. the expansion of Ottoman authority into the Pontic-Caspian steppe. A more relevant example of a Muslim slave trade (what she was really digging for there) would much more easily be found in the Caucasus or Africa. I guess her audience thinks Caucasian just means white person so it wouldn't work.
People constantly ship white and Caucasian though, like the choose ethnicity: white/Caucasian. That and Caucasian isn’t even an option for ethnicities selection sometimes and people will use white to encompass them all.
Wait. Let me get this right. The link for citations on “a brief history of slavery” goes to “what unites america.” I think that says everything you need to know about PragerU.
“Egypt and Persia had slaves, Europe stopped it” All the Spartan helots that were constantly maimed and killed, sometimes for the lolz: are we a joke to you?
Although compared to slaves in say Athens Helots had comparatively more rights are they were tied to the land and could have families. Most other slaves didn't have that privilege.
@@666DarkTommy Athenian slaves can buy their freedom, Spartan helots don't. Anyone born from a freed slave is free, anyone born from a Spartan helot don't...
@@666DarkTommy Dude, being a Helot was way, way worse than being a slave in Athens. They lived in constant of fear of Spartan death squads which would round up and torture anyone who breathed resistance. They would even randomly massacre innocent Helots to keep the population in a state of perpetual fear. Being allowed to have a family doesn't mean much if that family can be tortured and killed at any point for no reason.
This is a common misconception born from mistranslations. It is condemned as a practice in Exodus 21:16 “Now one who kidnaps someone, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall certainly be put to death." Slavers are also condemned wholesale in 1st Timothy 1:10, "for the sexually immoral, homosexuals, slave traders, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching". All places in the Bible where it "justifies" slavery are cases of purposeful mistranslation for the purposes of advancing the evil practice (which sadly some modern translations have chosen not to update their wording to account for). In those cases, the translation should be the word servant. In the Old Testament, these laws are dealing with contracts, debts, , betrothals, the integrating of foreigners into the people, and things of that sort. As for passages like Philemon which people use to say the Bible is pro-slavery this is as stated the word servant, based on context. To suggest that Philemon enslaved his own biological brother (something even the Romans wouldn't do) is as offensive as it is stupid. The fact this idea has become mainstream shows how lax the church has gotten in teaching doctrine. If you wish to learn more on this topic I recommend copying the following into your search engine of choice: "A Condensed Anti-Slavery Bible Argument George Bourne". It is the first thing that will pop up for you. Hope this proves of use to you. May God's grace, mercy, and wisdom be upon you and those that you love!
@@tokyosoldier9116 The Bible predates the Quran, and of course a lot of the older Abrahamic scriptures heavily influenced the third of the Abrahamic religions, (Islam)
I like how it's called "A short history of Slavery" but she doesn't even mention the Transatlantic Slave Trade, which was a very brutal, and probably the most well-known portion of that history.
@drakke125Channel Yes, she mentioned it in passing and she stresses how the cultures' slavery was far more worse which she tries to minimize the effects of the American system.
It was an automatic fail for both my high-school and college courses. Not citing sources MLA style was the end all to be all, right next to plagiarism, rightfully so.
Yeah would love to see one because i remember my history prof told us that and she basically said that most things we think of as just something eternal like shall we say calories is something that is more or less a more recent thing.
@@miat9039 White Supremacist would be mad to find out their ancestors were labeled as yellow race(reference to hair of Western Europeans) by the Ancient Greeks Aka the people they simp for 24/7,while Jews and Arabs were labeled as white by those same Greeks 🤣.
Yes, and because of the legacy of our shared history, and modern day policies, it's problematic. But I don't think the distinction of black and white or etc. is, in and of it's self, a bad thing. If it were not used to justify slavery and second-class citizenry then loaded-words would just be descriptive terms i.e. your white-skinned, black-skinned, light-skinned, brown-skinned etc., and we'd probably still use short had words. Words that held those meanings like cracker, negro, mixed, Hispanic, Latino, chink what have you. They wouldn't (necessarily) be slurs without the legacy of slavery and racial-discrimination. In fact discrimination wouldn't likely be a loaded word. I know race is a new concept, but it doesn't matter, because it's tied to our history of abuse and struggle. So while the history of race is a great educational video fro people to see, the net impact of that history on the words we use today would, likely remain very similar. People keep on inventing new racially-discriminatory, loaded-words and terms (like thug, gangster, hillbilly, redneck, white-trash, etc.). I think a video like the one you're suggesting, could have some small impact on the way people use those newer words, but there is already rigorous black, brown and white scholarship on those issues by figures like Killer Mike and in the form of documentaries on a verity of discriminatory practices.
I love how Candace completely ignores the Haitian Revolution (completed in 1804), which preceded both the American Civil War and the subsequent US abolition of slavery in 1865, and the British Empire's abolition of slavery in the 1830s.
Also, the French revolutionary (Jacobin) government abolished slavery -- in the 1790s -- in response to the first phase of the Haitian Revolution of the demands of the revolutionary alliance of enslaved and free black Haitians. Unfortunately, Napoleon reestablished it.
Sorry to keep commenting, but Candace's effective erasure of the immense sacrifices of black Union soldiers -- who had to fight like hell to be allowed to serve, then serve in segregated units for lower pay than white soldiers and deal with racist bullshit from their white comrades in arms -- is absolutely disgusting and despicable. She should really be ashamed of herself.
In 1707 General Maitland of Britain at the time attempted to intervene in Haiti although great disease helped with terrible losses for Britain relented from taking Haiti on behalf of the Ancient French regime. Haiti also delivered the great Napoleonic France its first defeat after Batay Vertye.
One of my largest cringes was when Owens brought up how the US fought a war to end slavery. I'm surprised you did not bring this up. Lincoln and the north initially did not fight the war to "end slavery." They were trying to preserve the union and attested the Confederacy did not have the right to secede from the country. The issue of emancipation did not come up until three years into the war.
Also describing the civil war as the US "fighting a war to end slavery" more like "half the country rose in open rebellion over the prospect of even just limiting slavery." You don't get to just take credit for the more moral side of a civil war in your country and pretend like the other faction were utterly alien to the country and just kind of dropped out of the aether one day.
That’s right. It was a pragmatic choice. It also highlights the evil of government, but I’m sure you’d prefer we not take that lesson away. Anyone that understood the Civil War understands the government is never moral; it is violence. Period. The South was recognized as doomed prior to secession, precisely because of slavery. That big bad capitalism was destroying slavery, because it was far, far, FAR more profitable to pay one man to operate a machine than it was to buy 9 slaves, pay to feed and care for them, and pay an overseer to watch them. The South was so economically backwards that it was still behind as recently as the 1960s. The north industrialized because the incentives demanded it. Slaves were, and are now, an exceedingly unprofitable venture. They are obviously very unproductive, and because of their existence, industrialization is delayed. No slave owner would want to put a slave to work with expensive machinery; he has every reason to sabotage it. What should have happened is to let the southern Democrats go; and then watch as they become an 1860s version of North Korea. Just like Korea, blacks would be incentivized to flee to the freer nation. It didn’t happen because government is violence, that’s the only language it speaks.
@@TheSpicyLeg it’s actually far cheaper to feed a man than pay him wages, as to pay a man wages you have to pay him above the minimum whilst with a slave then you have to give them only the minimum
It really is amazing (ie depressing) how just a mere five minute PragerU video can be filled with so much inaccuracy, half-truths, and blatant lies that it takes an *edited* 55 minute video by an actual historian to debunk it all. Respect and appreciation for this video and this channel.
@@imyourfriend1680 everyone knows that, and nobody is trying to deny the barbary, and/or Arab slave trade. We’re talking about the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Most people with even a rudimentary understanding of world history know about what you “found out”, and it’s not the “gotcha” you think it is. It’s called a whataboutism, and one doesn’t cancel out the other.
@@dannyhuskerjay Never really heard fellow Slavs arguing about that.... I as a Slav actually couldnt care less from where the term Slav comes from, But thats just me
A minor correction: Septimius Severus (the Roman Emperor you mentioned) was not black. He was of Carthaginian (thus Phoenician/Canaanite/Semitic) origins. Not white, but not black either. I'll post the source later, I'm on my phone atm
@@quark_E yeah i’ve heard she only rlly spews out right wing things but i’ve followed her for a lil bit now and she spits out her own stuff based on how she perceives it which is my point she might b right wing biased but she speaks from her own option in support of something u get what i mean
@@marcon6806 nope. She is trying to minimize the severity of the atrocities that were committed during the Transatlantic Slave Trade by pretending it was not unique (which is was) and then she talks about all the „bad brown people who enslaved and cannablized each other“ by then saying it was actually white people who were the first to abolish slavery. She is a bigot and a talking mouth for white supremacyY
@@bajabl Europeans didn't start slavery . . . Do you know nothing of the British crusade to end slavery around the world? Europe was one of the first continents to widely get rid of slavery, not the first to try to abolish it at all.
@@marcon6806 I want you to listen to yourself. Why would anyone give recognition to the oppressor for stopping the oppression they practiced? Also yes advocacy did help put an end to slavery in Europe, but the practice mainly ended due to it just not being a financially viable practice anymore, due to constant slave revolts in the Caribbean’s and especially since we were in the middle of the Industrial Revolution.
Interestingly, Russia is in fact mostly in what is considered Asia geographically, although this fact hardly matters because that entire huge area has been dominated by Slavic Europeans for at least the past 200 years. Still, the "Russians are not white" argument has at times been invoked to serve particular (usually white supremacist) agendas. When Japan defeated Russia in the Russo-Japanese War of the first decade of the twentieth century, white supremacists claimed that Japan's victory didn't count as a nonwhite victory because the Russians were "half Mongoloid" and thus no higher on the racial scale than the Japanese.
@@nugzarmikeladze has nothing to do with the fact that the Russian have been invaded or have incounterd by Asian step people and influenced by them. In The European part of Russia with exception of low influence from northern cities. If they may not look like it much you can say the same thing from the Bulgarian and the Hungarians lol
OMG! I'm so glad you gave the actual definition of white, people look at me crazy when I say the white identity has little to with skin color because other Europeans were left out of that identity entirely, like Irish and southern Italians. It's a very new concept put into place to separate the have from the have nots. I'm glad you mentioned it.
I've said the same thing, some of my ancestors were in fact Irish and came to America during that time only to face discrimination that so many racists think was only reserved for "non-whites"
@@ToxicAudrithe Irish an Italians got to use the whites only water fountain an restroom an got the right to vote without being threatened with death...yeah I remember when Irish an Italians went thru that
I think she wanted to say black people but even then there are source that prove that there were black dynasty in ancient Egypt at some point. So what was her point exactly?
About a good 80% of the dynasties in Egypt where African, the rest were invading forces. Of course we can’t forget that the people south of them also adapted their culture, known as the kushites, who were probably the darkest group of Africans on the continent even today.
@@garyphisher7375 According to the genetic studies of Ramses III and his son Pentawer, both indigenous ancient Egyptians of Royal blood were tested E1B1A which is clearly a Negroid Ydna Haplogroup. Can you site your source they were Arab or are you just another racist trying to spread a narrative black people have never had or built anything?
As a person with some very conservative values, Ben Shapiro, PragerU and friends all push me farther left every time they open their awful manipulative mouths.
I’m glad to hear this. I consider myself a progressive, but the recent shift in both parties have driven me to the center. It’s starting to feel like I don’t belong anywhere in either ideology. We get saturated with the loudest voices from the worst of them making it feel like the worlds gone mad.
Even the "Slavs... All of them white" is inaccurate. In the 9th century eastern Europe would have been home to migratory people's, many of whom would have had ancestors from across Central Asia. Additionally "Slavs" weren't considered wholey white by a large portion of Western Europe until the mid-twentieth century. And the concept of whiteness as a racial category didn't exist in the 9th century. Also THAT MAP of historic slavery completely ignored the slavery of antiquity, the very basis for the Roman and Greek republics and empires which many Western chauvinists claim is the basis for their culture.
This is what always annoys me about using the modern ideas of "race" for premodern time periods. The concept of overarching "races" like "white", "black" etc didn't exist at the time, the designation of people into "races" is more a product of the early colonial era. During the Middle Ages and earlier time periods, people would have identified themselves only with their ethnic group, tribe, or *at most* a shared religion. And when race did become a thing, nobody could seem to agree on what characteristics would allow you into the "white" club, as Benjamin Franklin famously complained about the immigration of "swarthy" Germans into the US who would dillute the "white race".
@@starmaker75 less then 80 years if you were born in Germany, and your mother would have risked punishment for “Blutschande“ for having you, and if caught while pregnant with you, you would have been aborted forcefully. All this horrible shit is not that long past as we prefer it to be... and we should not pretend as if time made us immune to this.
@@hannajung7512 yeah it fucked up on how some people really didn’t wanted someone being part Slavic. Also funny my mom is Germanic(Swedish and German).
@@starmaker75 yeah, the Nazis were particularly about this. This is the part the allied forces did not speak enough about: the German genocide was not only on yews, the war in the regions east of Germany was a genocidal war, ment to erase and subdue the “Slavische Unterrasse“ (slavic under race, the Nazi term, not mine) and use the land as “living space“ for the German people. The war in England and in France was bad, but nothing compared to the horror show that Eastern Europe endured. And today white supremacists march in Russia and Poland and many other Eastern Europe countries, as if “European“ had allways included their people, too. In the nineties German Neonazis considered Slavic people still as less then, the same assheads now “greet their Russian brothers“.
Prageru: "my source is i made it the fuck up" Honestly i love asking these guys for sources only to either be ignored, given a link to infowars, or be given an article that directly disagrees with them.
What she really wants to say is white Christians ended slavery. But she ignores the other group of equal a god-fearing Bible believing Christians who are convinced that God had endorsed slavery.
Maybe people need to understand that the Bible is also a product of it's time, among many other things, and not cherry pick currently non applicable laws that only had specific uses even when they were first put to paper!?
"If we didn't invent it, we can't be held responsible for it." That seems to be the general drive of their narrative. That, and "everyone else was doing it too," which is just primary school level infallible arguing. What is Candace's stance on corporal punishment in schools? Should teachers be allowed to beat another parent's child for behavior that singular teacher deems inappropriate or undesirable? If she said yes, could we then blame her for "inventing" the leather strap and yard sticks to beat children with? Or would she argue that the practice was inhumane and damaging to an entire generation of young people, and we're a better society for having gotten rid of the practice? Would she agree that pressing for greater student protections in the classroom and at home would lead to a healthier, happier, more productive student body in the future? If so, why would she not agree that civil rights for racial minorities be pushed forward too, if it meant that future generations had greater opportunities and better living conditions? There's such an aversion to discussing history that depicts the US as a willing participant in an abhorrent practice, especially one that has dictated how American society functions today. We still thrive off forced labor to this day, both at home through exploitative practices of the working poor, as well as the outsourced slavery of international trading partners using literal slave labor to produce the goods we consume. PragerU and their dedication to educating through omission is like watching the movie Pocahontas as a kid - we see the ending as some Disney-fied fairytale where John Smith sails back to England, and Pocahontas' tribe is left proud and intact, and they all live happily ever after, but even as a nine year old, you're barely aware of the Native community, but you wouldn't consider them a thriving nation living side-by-side with you in your hometown. That dissonance is jarring, and for some they'd rather stick to the movie ending and leave it at that, while other kids watch it and think, so what happened after that, and why aren't they around today? Obviously Dennis Prager is uncomfortable or unable to correctly and convincingly answer those kinds of questions.
@@jasonpeacock9735 The Alt-Right is Intense, i hope were all updated on that, using available Info-Sources to their fullest? Info-Sources like videos like 'Marjorie Taylor Greene Has DEEPLY Disturbing Views' by Telltale Fireside? PragerU was covered by so many, i dont think i have to say anything about that, but lemme say that Some More News, Hbomberguy and Telltale Fireside!
So you want to move the community forward. You want even more deaths? Is that your progress? Research the deaths, and tell me it is due to racism. Do you not care?
She has literally made a hustle for herself by selling and regurgitating what her fellow ideological, European descendants want to hear. Actually "selling water a whale".
Conservatives: "White people ended slavery." Also Conservatives: *proceeds to spout the Lost Cause Myth every time the virtues of abolishment are brought up.
And they get away with it because their base gobble up everything their televangelist pastor and Trump says. What more imformed people tell them doesn't count, of course, because they don't wear a stupid red MAGA hat like themselves.
"The murderous Persian empire" You mean the one with complete religious tolerance, a decentralized and autonomous provincial structure and no slavery? The one that freed the Jews from Babylon and helped them in the construction of the 2nd temple? Something ain't adding up...
Nono, that's not what the documentary 300 said, you must be clearly getting your source from a leftist history book. Otherwise, how would the Persians have employed such terrible monsters as shown in the documentary, if they were so benevolent?
@@Feminismisfornobody Specifically because they conquered their immediate neighbors, as patrolling the neighborhood and putting down slave insurrections was the primary duty of a Spartan hoplite, I would add lol
@@SithStudy Egypt is literally in Africa so no, it’s not. If she said black people you might have a point and that’s definitely what she meant but it’s not what she said.
Thank you for helping me see the fallacies that has doused PragerU. I used to watch their videos religiously (I know I know). And you helped me break out of it. You stopped me from being a crypto.
There are two things in this world that really pet my peeve: arbitrary injustice and the perpetuation of historical falsehoods P.U. often does both of these things in the same breath
Okay but can we talk about how that last part sounded like the words of an abuser? "That's not racism, you are not a VICTIM of racism, right? Why call yourself a VICTIM, like you are WEAK or something?"
She has abusive tendencies. I grew up with women like her, and as a black male, I can verify that she has the kind of head tilt that I've seen and been witness to in MANY CHURCHES. LOTS. And they don't talk about people like her being well dressed abusives.
Yeah, I had an administrator tell me once to "stop playing the victim!" And she was an abusive cword if ever there was. And besides, I was being deferential, not a victim. They want it both ways, don't be a victim, but don't be defending yourself with any kind of bass in your voice. What? Quietly wait in the corner and nod and smile?
Thank you for calling Aristotle ignorant. Not because I think he wasn’t a great mind but it’s because I believe it’s okay to call people out regardless of their education, philosophy, etc.
Crazy how that works. The truth is, conservatives want to preserve a past that didn’t exist so they have to bend the facts and truth to their narratives.
8:30 she talks about places where slavery existed. Doesn't mention Europe but then goes on to talk about Slavs in the next sentence 😭 27:57 Union soldiers carrying shotguns 😂😂😂
Her parents and grandparents must be proud of her, not the least because of her employment by the people who really wish there would still be slavery in the states.
You know they wont. Lmao conservatives are kings of cherry picking. They will take what they want from Dave and leave out all the stuff he said about George floyd.
@@junjiito6298 Their praise for Nicki Minaj is another great example. If they did their research like she said (on HER specifically), they would have known that she made those anti-shot comments to distract the public from that lawsuit that was filed against both her and her "husband". As you know, they didn't (or any other conservative TH-cam channel for that matter) mentioned that.
You can agree with some things someone says and not on others. Conservatives support free speech unlike leftists who want to censor someone because they quote have "wrong takes". Its a slippery slope to moderate what people say because then who gets to decide what is right or wrong. All I'm saying saying is that conservatives will defend free speech even if they don't particularly like or agree with everything the individual said.
32:22 When Candance brings up Cannibalism its actually something relatively important to the institution of slavery (although she doesn't specify anything, so I wonder if she wanted to make a point on something), at least in Spain regarding indian's slavery in Central and South America. Just in case someone is wondering, in Spain after 1542 slavery for native indians was outlawed, with the exception of those which attempted against natural law (in a catholic sense) like cannibals. Because of their perceived moral/rational inferiority europeans saw slavery as necesary and even good for those communities.
Being iranian I'm very thankful you said that we didn't have slavery back then ( or at least less of it ) and also pointing out how they want to blame the Muslims in the Prager U video, not often people actually give a crap about how good Persia was ( not perfect obviously, but not a horrible place ), Persia ( Achaemenid Empire at the time I think ) is always seen as the country who lost to Greeks
Yo when she said muslims, I said i'm done the video is about racisim, race and color not about religion and she only said muslims as if there were no slavery in christianety and judaism she is literally islamophob and she is talking as if slavery is okay she is literally stupid
@@SidheKnight Is he definitely an Arab? The province was called Arabia, but I don’t know if actual ethnic Arabs as we know now lived there, I was under the impression they moved north later, during the 600s, but I might be mistaken.
@@baronofbahlingen9662 That's what the wikipedia article says at least, that the current historic consensus is that he was ethnically arab. (And it provides a bunch of sources I haven't verified yet).
This is why most ppl in the black community , no matter what political stance/ social status, despise Candice Owens. She truly sells out her own community and downplays our struggles for her own personal gain whatever that may be. And what kills me the most is the fact she is a victim of racism , which has a relation to this topic, and yet she can spew out this crap.
Will this get more hate comments than the Lost Cause video? Can't wait and see! 🤷🏿♀️🍿 EDIT: Just finished the video. I watched the Prager U video when it first premiered and it was triggering. However, you debunking it and exposing the lies has made me furious and my blood is boiling. It's not even 2pm and I need a glass of wine. Keep up the good work Cypher, I enjoy your videos.
Bartalome De Las Casas would refuse to hear confession from Spaniard slave owners as a form of protest. That the owners of slaves in Colonial Spain felt compelled to confess for forgiveness I think shows that there were definitely Europeans who knew, or at least felt, that slavery was a moral wrong that could even taint their souls.
Funny how so many people forget that Candace Owens was originally running an "Anti Trump" website...but it didn't make her any money..so she switched gears... She is the living embodiment of Grifting. Lol
@Jack McCabe Candice? Open minded? You've got to be kidding. She even got called out on Rogan for having set opinions without knowing the first thing about the subject. Her opinions are all based on the current stance of Republican supporters. She wouldn't understand nuance if several forms of it kicked her in the arse from multiple levels.
People also forget that she sued her school in a landmark case in her hometown for...WAIT FOR IT...WAYCISM. So, she literally made 💰 off of race. Making HER a race hustler.
Prager U's own web page says they are "Changing minds through the creative use of digital media" it says NOTHING of making any attempts at truth or accuracy. Given this video of thiers, I'd say they are VERY creative...they certainly created a lot of thier own facts.
I don't even understand the point of bringing up other historical examples of slavery. Is this supposed to make it sound like actually American slavery wasn't that bad or something? It sounds like trying to defend the Holocaust by pointing out that lots of societies through history were antisemitic.
@@marcon6806 American Chattel Slavery was unique in it’s brutality in it’s short time in comparison to all other forms. Also that it was specific to 2 races and one basing their justification of it on superiority. American slavery bred white supremacy. No one cares you’re getting tired of hearing about white people’s involvement in it. Especially when a lot of white people these days don’t want to even acknowledge how bad it was. The mental part was equal to or worse than the physical. It has an effect to this day and it was by design to.
To be fair, Jefferson’s stance on slavery isn’t as one sided as it seems.. it must not be forgotten that he ended the slave trade during his presidency and that he introduced a bill which would have gradually ended slavery and most likely prevented a Civil War(it failed to pass by one vote and TJ would later comment “.. thus we see the fate of millions unborn hanging on the tongue of one man, & heaven was silent in that awful moment! but it is to be hoped it will not always be silent & that the friends to the rights of human nature will in the end prevail.”) and that his Declaration of Independence was often cited by abolitionists and civil rights activists(MLK called it the predecessor to the Emancipation Proclamation).. not to mention it also provided the model for the Massachusetts Declaration of Rights, which proved vital in abolishing slavery in the state.. one could argue that he indirectly ended the system he participated in.
Yeah it always seemed strange to me how he made slavery out to be a moral evil which was agreed upon by others like Washington and Franklin yet still had slaves themselves. Were they just feeling guilty?
@@Spongebrain97 Do you honestly believe those men could've simply "Let Them Free" in the 1700's ? In America? Would you prefer they send them all.....alone.....back on a boat to Africa? Exactly HOW would've you have "Set Your Slaves Free" in the late 1700's in America? Show us how it's done, please.
@@Macheako it seems like you're barking up the wrong tree of what I said. It should be noted that Franklin did free his slaves and Jefferson and Washington did as well but on their death beds. So it was definitely possible to free their own slaves at the time. What Im asking is how like they could privately and or openly condemn slavery yet partake in it. Especially because at a certain point they didn't need slaves to remain wealthy
I know for a fact that Candace Owens knows better (especially with the NAACP acting on her behalf), but I think she is so deep into her grift she can't get out and has to embrace it.
Yeah, Columbus was no "intrepid explorer." He was a crank who thought the world was shaped like a pear turned on its side (a theory that got him laughed out of his home of Genoa before getting laughed out of France and England) and basically "took a wrong turn at Albequerque" attempting to chart out a water-route to the Indian subcontinent, but tried to make the best out of a bad situation by... basically trying to BS his way out of it. He called every new plant he stumbled across "Pimento" because he promised black pepper from Tellicherry to the Spanish Crown, he looted the treasures of the Taino and Carab peoples, and he was known to torture and mutilate anyone who so much as flashed him a defiant eye. In fact, his enslavement and torture of the locals got so bad, in 1500 Columbus returned to Spain to collect his share of the treasure brought back to the Old World during his tenure as governor of Hispaniola... and was immediately stripped of all rank and titles before being tossed in prison for his crimes against the Taino. That bit gets left out of the "Columbus Discovered America" myth, a tale written by "Rip Van Winkle" and "The Legend Of Sleepy Hollow" author Washington Irving and co-opted by 19th-century Italian-American immigrants who were sick to the teeth of discrimination and often countered with "Oh, yeah? Well, an Italian discovered America! Whattaya think o' THAT, smart guy?" Also, Candace Owens is a white-supremacist because she's a take-it-in-the-ear-for-a-beer SELLOUT. Willing to work in "The Big House" and sneer at the chattel in the fields for not being "smart enough" to stab your own in the back for a cushier and more opulent form of second-class citizenship. What white-supremacists call "One Of The Good Ones" and what everyone else calls "A Goddamn Moron."
@@SPDYellow And it's for THAT reason that even DAVE CHAPELLE, who refuses to apologize for being a transphobe and is currently going all "Kids These Days" in his standup-sets, has called Candace Owens a "House N*****."
It is silly that Candace use slavery in Africa and Classical Europe as a comparison as an equivalence in the US. From what I remember in my History classes, slavery done in the Old World is more a system of indentured servitude (which the New World used to have in the early days to attract new colonists), and prisoners of war taken by the victor to be used for labor. The Chattel Slavery used in the New World not only has a genocidal element to it with the Atlantic Slave Trade killing off a sizable number of enslaved Africans during the journey at sea, but they also "improved" on the "Peculiar Institution" once the Atlantic Slave Trade is outlawed by allowing the enslaved Africans to have children so those children become "property" of their owners to work the fields or sold off as profit. if I remember correctly, that type of slavery, where an entire race of people is held in bondage including future children is unheard of. Also, Persia has no slavery under the Achaemenid because Zoroastrianism forbids slavery. And while Islam also has slavery, the Quran forbid Muslims from enslaving other Muslims, which along with taxing non-Muslims, and non-Muslims having no rights despite being tolerated provides a very good incentive for people under the control of a Muslim kingdom to convert to Islam.
Romans could decide to "free" a slave to marry her since sexual equality wasn't a thing. American slavery strictly forbade racial intermarriage, a practice that lasted til the 1960s.
"If I remember correctly, that type of slavery, where an entire race of people is held in bondage including future children is unheard of." If you mean to the extreme and widespread nature of that practice in New World slavery, then I would agree with that tentatively. Only because it's a little difficult to get exact numbers from texts that don't give any. Blood slavery was quite common in a lot of the world. In the Old Testament, female slaves that were taken as wives were typically treated better than non-married female slaves. Most likely because their entire existence was to breed more slaves. It's honestly difficult for me to point to a practice of slavery allowed in the Bible and say "That's the worst one."
@@lusciouslucius have you like... been to america? Literally go into any major city and just walk around the "bad part of town" for five minutes, then come back and tell me how privileged black people are.
They never do. They almost never mention 100 years of Jim Crow. Then, when it is mentioned they proceed to deflect about how it was the Democrats. Then, when you mention the Southern Strategy they pretend like it didn't happen. I don't know if these people are dumb or they just love skipping over entire long, significant portions of history.
Loved your video. She has also made dubious claims such as the Southern Strategy & party realignment being a myth and that Hitler wasn’t a nationalist. She made these claims when speaking to some Congressional committee a few years ago, which was covered by C-SPAN. Her fans, oddly enough, hold up that appearance as an example of her “brilliance,” despite it being nothing more than a collection of poorly researched talking points.
Everybody: Slavery happened in American and it’s a very important tragedy that this country committed and we need to remember it Candace Owens: But… like… the Mongols were worse!
@@imyourfriend1680 The point is that it was about race in the US and if you're an American talking about slavery in your country, you don't have to bring others to the conversation. Of course whites can be enslaved but so what? The point is that, where you live, white enslaved black people and race discrimination was a factor which can't be ignored. It's simple.
6:59 Best part is that what he was doing was illegal as (by the laws of Indias) the Americans were legally Spanish subjects which meant that enslaving them was illegal. In fact the Queen removed him of all his posts over this... 7:53 Actually they weren't officialy property (as for the laws of Indias that was illegal), and indeed they were serfs.
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9:10 - Muslims participated in a slave trade that included slavs by this time, but I was referring to their territorial extent. Saqaliba came from Byzantine and Viking slavers before the 11th century. Here’s an article on it: www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-journal-of-middle-east-studies/article/what-does-the-slave-trade-in-the-saqaliba-tell-us-about-early-islamic-slavery/EDDD35D8FD593AB8D576D11550CF62C6 (thx drogenschlechtmhkay)
14:10 - black emperors are currently hotly debated, and I made it sound settled. In fact, it appears that more scholars agree that the Severans were more brown than black. But you may decide for yourself with this preserved painting of the family: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Portrait_of_family_of_Septimius_Severus__-Altes_Museum-__Berlin_-_Germany_2017.jpg
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I see you made a video version of this. I really like the Twitch version too.
I would get it if a white person were to be making these claims as some way to protect their own ego. But why the fuck is a black woman defending this stuff and evidently taking this money from PragerU? It´s like if the dinosaurs voted in favour of the Chixculub asteroid.
@@robertjarman3703 As Ernie Hudson said in Ghostbusters: "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say."
You are my kind of entertainment.
Owens is capitalizing on general lack of competition for a right wing correspondent on slavery and racism. There are plenty of right wing Ashkenazi Jews, but how many had a grandfather telling stories of brave Nazi soldiers wbo rescued him from an AntiFa attic in Ukraine?
They gave him a job and kept him safe from the reds. Fifty year later, U.S. welcomed me as a Soviet refugee, and made me a citizen after asking if I was ever a communist. I decided not to mention that I had it worse at the hands of fascist sympathizers.
Then Candace and i can comment how wearing a mask is true slavery and holocaust from which only the GOP can save us. All part of my Truth in History Studies.
The “we didn’t invent slavery” is such a weird argument. The Nazis didn’t invent warfare or genocide but yet are the universal reference for both? I can’t go to a judge and use “I didn’t invent robbery” as an argument…
It is strange to hear such nonsense considering slaves were traded. You need a market for slavery to be a thing and Europeans/Americans were eager customers. Everyone involved was equally to blame.
I thought of this comment today watching Donald Trump's paltry attempt to elaborate on the pre election audio leak when asked about his " Pussy grabbing " penchant.
He literally said we have had stars for millions of years and sometimes its fortunate and unfortunate ( that they grab pussy )
I kid you not.
White Supremacy is narcissism played as a group sport
You got to understand that the Nazis can be separated from Germans the problem is that not many people can seperate slave owner from white person which causes a hateful divide that I've seen personally
The Nazis didn't invent genocide, but they are the reason for the term's existence. However, that is beside the point.
@@kingdicehoi4lubu746 Eh, that's painting with a broad brush. Most people don't think all white people owned slaves. That's more of a far right strawman. In fact, they often believe it themselves - when people talk about reparations for slavery, where all previous slave owners should pay out to families of descendants on slaves, the Right begins screeching! But in reality, it wouldn't affect most white people - so as a white person, I don't mind reparations :) My family never owned slaves, so it wouldn't hurt me in any way.
I love how she also leaves out that Roman slavery was based primarily on conquest and not yknow. Race.
Not only that but Roman slavery wasn't based on race.
@@thebeast8429 but there had never been a system of slavery quite like the one used in America. Plus that argument is really a copout argument. It's like a thief that stole something from you saying that "people steal things" and "you're not the only one to have things stolen from them". Slavery happened over a century ago but many of the institutions that benefitted from it still exist and we still have issues stemming from the Jim Crow era of segregation. Some communities are still segregated along the same lines that existed 60 years ago. Slavery and Jim Crow is at the origin of it all.
@@thebeast8429there are some that do blame all white people but there are many that don't. Black people have also rewarded and praised white people for being empathetic to their cause. I also think that it's not really possible to know what most black people think. The media will typically show the most extreme cases. Same goes for white people. but we can gauge society by the things that are allowed to pass.
@@thebeast8429 Yeah but it’s a false comparison because the forms of slavery were completely different
@@incubus_the_man hell they had a black emperor sure there were racists but Roman slavery was indeed based off of position, also slavery still is bad regardless
"Africans did slavery too" okay, but in order to make money from those slaves, someone would need to BUY them. It was wrong to sell people AND wrong to buy people. "They did it too" doesn't absolve you of guilt.
Exactly.
Also, people like Candacd will condemn black people for doing slavery too, but they'll sing the praises or white abolitionists and claim that "white people" ended slavery even though there were also a lot of black people who fought to end slavery, both in America and Africa.
And they also seem to forget that those "white people" who apparently ended slavery, did so against the wishes of other white people. They weren't arguing with aliens. They were arguing with other white people who wanted to keep slavery.
There's also the fact that "Africans did slavery" seems to gloss over that Africa is a continent & not a country like America, Rome or what we now consider to be south Korean & there were entire countries, tribes & other civilizations within Africa that were against slavery from the get go.
@@aricharlton7292 can you please give sources for African Countries that opposed slavery. Not only intertribal slavery but also intra tribal slavery
@@siphomnisi3842 wasn’t America supposed to be designing a more perfect union? Why shouldn’t we want to be better than countries that use slavery? Why are we exceptional in every other way, but because others had slaves, we were justified too?
All of their arguments are nothing but deflections.
People don't watch Prager "U" to learn history or better themselves, they watch it to validate their feelings and beliefs
Facts💯💯
That's correct.
@@krbrown948 Please explain to me how Prager U is educational and promotes learning about history and science? And doesn't reinforce people's beliefs and views?
@@OMJ_the_Show well, it's not really an echo chamber if there are people with various views present. Why would a liberal come to a PragerU vid if they weren't trying to understand other people's views and thoughts. Problem is, this shit isn't just someone's opinion, this is just a vid trying to make white people feel like American slavery wasn't really that bad, which is some crazy shit but not really surprising nowing Prager.
@@liveking12 Exactly, it doesn't show a different perspective, or history that isn't discussed, just there to make certain people feel good about themselves and their beliefs
On the Slavic parts of the video.
"Slavs ... all white by the way"
I'd like to point to the 1500 year history of Slavs not being considered "white" at least in the racial connotations of the word. My most favourite quote is that the Slavs are "an intellectually inferior race of obscure Asiatic origin". (Primary Chronicle, Cross and Showbowitz-Wetzor, p. 36.
).
The word slave coming from the word Slav was debated as several other plausible origins were proposed but by now the historical consensus has pretty much come to the conclusion that the word slave most definetly came from the word Slav as medieval sources about Slavs are sometimes even unclear whether they mean slaves or Slavs as for a while they just used the same word Sclaveni (meaning Slavs), and its many variations, to mean both Slavs and slaves (Slavery After Rome 500-1100,
Alice Rio). The word Slav (and its many variations in early medieval sources) either comes from the Slavs themselves or, if you believe Curta and some other Toronto School proponents, it was an ethnos given to them by the Greeks i.e. the Byzantines. The word slave which is derived from the word Slav, therefore, either came to France from the Greeks or from the Slavs that were enslaved and brought to France and called themselves Slavs. It could also be a combination of the two, hard to say. Than from France the word came to England due to the Normans.
Also, Muslims, by far, were the largest owners of Slavic slaves as they preferred them for multiplicities of reasons. The numbers of Slavic slaves owned by Muslims could easily have been in the millions as attested to by the sheer amount of dirhams found all across Europe which we know, from multiple sources (e.g. Ibin Fadlan Voyage), were mostly used by the Arabs to pay for Slavic slaves (Dirhams for Slaves, Marek Jankowiak). However, Muslims, outside of very few occasions, never enslaved Slavs themselves (in the medieval period). They bought them from other peoples who did the enslaving, peoples like the Varangians (Norse/Vikings), various Western Europeans, various nomads like Khazars, and Slavs themselves most notably Bohemians.
All this was an extreme oversimplification of a much larger topic which I plan to do a video on early next year so if you're interested (wink wink nudge nudge, shameless plug) subscribe to my channel :)
That's the rub when you talk about "white" people as a monolithic block isn't it? It perpetuates a melanin based division so simplistic and stupid even colonial and antebellum Americans rejected it. But now it is almost universally accepted.
Enslaving Bohemians... Interesting point. I never heard about it. I am really curious. Its probably missing not very known piece of our history. Can you kindly share some source? (Eng, Cz, Sk) I want know more about this topic. Thank you.
You should include some PragerU debunking in that video, lol
I think what's also funny about the slav comment is a few civil rights groups I've seen consider Slavs a people of color because of the whole history with slavery as you pointed out.
@@annexcendent8511 One of the papers I stated in the comment Dirhams for slaves. Investigating the Slavic slave trade in the tenth century
, by Marek Jankowiak, is a good source for that.
For the main primary source see Ibrahim b. Ya‘qub's work who talked about the importance of Prague as a slave market.
For Bavarians buying slaves from Bohemia see Hammer, Carl I. A Large-scale Slave Society of the Early Middle Ages : Slaves and Their Families in Early-medieval Bavaria
For a Czech paper on the Bohemian slave trade see OTROKÁŘSTVÍ V NEJSTARŠÍ ČESKÉ HAGIOGRAFII
A HISTORIOGRAFII Bc. Lucie Uhrová
One of my favorite counters to people like Candass is asking what the equivalent of segregation/lynchings/discrimination have to do with other civilizations of the past or how African slave traders caused the U.S. to segregate for so long.
Being shocked that Africans tribes had conflicts is like being shocked the French and British fought/conquered each other just because they were both "white."
You're exactly right. They bring up other countries and civilizations only to deflect attention from our own ugly racist history. It's all a smokescreen. ...."Nothing to see here, folks!"
Candass
@@Al-Rudigor even if it was a country, countries have civil wars all the time and people are individuals not representative of their identity groups.
exactly - she ignores all that other stuff on purpose - i do not even think she believes the stuff she saying - i bet most conservatives leaders do not believe the stuff they are saying
That whole area went to war with other white people for centuries
I guess we are all slowly just becoming reaction channels due to all the bad history out there. 😑
Big fan Mr Beat!
More people need to know how widespread the lying is and how to tell. I'm glad there are educated folks out there fighting against PragerU and similar liars.
How sadly true. Historians are now reactionaries... in the sense that they need to stop what they are doing and react to appallingly bad takes instead of charting new history. Damn the internet some days.
@@LadyTylerBioRodriguez
Hear me out….”Counter-reactionaries”
@@warlordofbritannia I like it!
When people say, "I can't be racist, I have a black friend." Candence Owens is the person they're talking about.
So you're the arbiter of who is a real black and who isn't? That's not racist at all 🙄
@@jwillard1971 womp womp
Bud black conservatives are still black. Thinking that their pigment is somehow altered when they aren't liberals is an incredibly racist thing to say.
@@ragingshibe I'm saying she isn't black i'm saying she's a self-hating black person
@@jwillard1971 man you
Just dont want to
Understand and frankly we dont expect any different
As a slav, I do not condone the use of my history to justify racism in the modern era.
As a non-slav I don't. And I don't think any sane person would either.
It’s so sad to see people trying to justify slavery. Those who try and say “sLaVrEY ISnt bAD!” are probably the most ignorant people you could meet and worst considering they are racist most of the time they try to justify it.
I agree, well stated to the point!
I love that saying:
"Misinformation is like crap sprayed from a hose. It takes only seconds to deposit it everywhere, but hours to clean up."
@@geeeseee2168 I'm pretty sure Candace is a woman.
Or do you mean D. Prager?
I am gonna need some sources on this quote.
.....And if it's another to PragerU 😡... I swear to Christ it will the list thing you do!
I'm stealing this.
@@isaacj.elliott2137 lmfao what?
Yeah and come here to get straightened out with unbias facts! Lmao
Candace Owens: “Human history is complicated”
Also Candace Owens: *Grossly oversimplifies the history of slavery”*
In what way?
@@Boilingfrogg Did you watch the video?
@@dffgffffffdddddddddd Not all of it
@@Boilingfrogg You might consider doing so then. You might even learn something.
Her whole little grifting career is oversimplified.
I wish people like Candace would understand that while yes we’re aware slavery “didn’t start with black people”, by no means does it make our history or our struggles any less important. I grow tired of people undermining the black American struggle. They use someone like Candace to feel less guilty because “a black person said it”.
I agree with people thinking it’s ok because a Black person said it I find that a little weird how there’s a different reaction based on color. But we also have to admit and learn about the fact that 10x more white people were enslaved by Black ppl in the North African slave trade the rest of the world is learning the opposite to the west and something that we were never taught in school or never see in the media is how Black people have been enslaved for 2000 years and still are enslaved by Arabs today! The slavery of Black ppl in Arab countries will never end if we ignore it and go on acting like only we in the west know what racism feels like. Anti Blackness is world wide.
Wait ten times more white people were enslaved by blacks? Do you have a source if you don’t mind me asking
@@OriginalBeauty-gp1oj The sole reason PragerU made this video is to hide the fact that the United States of America was founded on white supremacy. Starting with the genocide of indigenous brown people and immediately followed by the dehumanization of black people.
Candass Owen is despicable. Her ancestors would be ashamed.
@@OriginalBeauty-gp1oj “10x more white ppl were enslaved by black ppl” I learned nothing in high school may I get a source for this?
And the fact that she said “our” as if everyone living in Africa were of the same tribe and family
She identified with black people?!!
White people also was slave in barbary slave trade by non whites, North africans aren't whites
@@imyourfriend1680 ??
@@drereviews8868 he’s a troll.
@@donyoung7874 The Alt-Right is Intense, i hope were all updated on that, using available Info-Sources to their fullest? Info-Sources like videos like 'Marjorie Taylor Greene Has DEEPLY Disturbing Views' by Telltale Fireside?
PragerU was covered by so many, i dont think i have to say anything about that,
but lemme say that Some More News is a good TH-camr
to be informed about all kindso f Issues, local or global.
That Guy keeps you updated on Everything from Crops to LGBT.
Prager U's quality of research is as good as the fight scenes of the Last Airbender film.
@@ohauss There were no fight scenes just like there was no research
That film doesn't exist tho
Bro why you gotta remind me that movie exists?
@@haveueverwondered9749 wtf are you talking?
@@haveueverwondered9749 No, this comment chain is making a comparison to the Last Airbender film and the quality of PragerU's research.
Other things Aristotle believed were true:
- Men have more teeth than women.
- Heavy objects fall faster than light objects.
- Men's blood is hotter than women's blood.
- The earth is the center of the universe.
- The earth and everything in it existed for all eternity and will exist for all eternity.
- Some animals spontaneously come into being from mud and earth; they don't reproduce.
- There are a total of seven heavenly bodies, which are perfect and never change.
- The heart is the organ of reason and intellect.
- The function of the brain is to cool the blood.
Debunking PragerU, its a dirty job but someone's got to do it. How many showers did it take to feel clean after watching that video.
Just three pints of expensive, yet delicious, beer did the trick
@@CynicalHistorian Old Rasputin is always worth it
Lover of the Russian Queen
@@CynicalHistorian hobgoblin is very cleansing.
I love how you don’t have to be a leftist or conservative to find out that PragerU is objectively wrong.
@Jordan Spencer bro did you watch the video at all, or read the comments at all?
@Jordan Spencer...Clearly, you know nothing of history and are just as daft as Candice or maybe a good old fashion grifter...AGAIN, like she is if you don't know she just served up a big ol pile of horse manure in that video.
Exactly. I’m currently studying history and lean conservative on most issues; PragerU is an embarrassment.
a "leftist" 😂😂 ... Oh a person with common sense
@@HollerScholar Glad you can smell and see bs but unfortunately PissU is trying to reframe historical things in a conservative lens like that fascism is somehow left wing or that the real danger is from the left and not the neo nazi right wing ultra crazies.
My father was a child of southern Italian immigrants. He was born in 1930. As a young man, he was denied jobs because he wasn’t white. Some historians have estimated that as much as a third of the Roman Empire consisted of slaves. As an American of Italian descent, there are certain to be Roman slaves among my ancestors.
Should I then compare myself to those people in the U.S. who are descendants of African slaves? Should I compare my middle class circumstances to those of economically distressed descendants of African slaves in the U.S. today and claim that everybody has an equal opportunity to succeed?
The answer is “no”. African Americans have historically been treated differently because of the color of their skin. They continue to be treated differently today because of the color of their skin although there has been considerable improvement. Despite my slave ancestors and the discrimination my father experienced, nobody treats me as anything other than white.
I don’t know why some people have a hard time seeing the truth of this issue.
dude when i started reading this comment i thought it was gonna go in a way different direction. thank you for understanding the bare minimum of racism
PragerU: *stating that slavery was in Africa and Asia*
Ancient Civilizations in Europe: Are we a joke to you?
Vikings: *sweat nervously*
Poor Rome, building an entire empire on the backs of horrifyingly brutalized slaves and not even being acknowledged for the effort all that mass-enslavement of defeated cities and tribes took... ;(
Yeah it's typical how when they talk about the history of slavery but leave out that difference European groups enlsaved their enemies like the Vikings and Romans. Here they only mention it when it's from outside forces like the Mongols or Turks
@@billjakerson2693 I don't think Vikings sweated nervously.
@@Alte.Kameraden exactly. For an example, the Native American tribes here in Pacific Northwest, as in the chinook had slavery.
As a Scandinavian I’m offended that they forgot about Viking slavery in the 9th-12th century😜
Agreed fellow Scandinavian
As a Mexican, I think they forgot about slavery in the Americas prior to the Spanish conquest, in fact it's one of the reasons Cortés had it easier, because the enemies of the Aztecs allied with him to fend them off and defeat them, then Cortés turned on his erstwhile indigenous allies and practiced genocide with them
@Kosch GM Pinpoint it please, because all I hear her say is that it was only 9th century Muslims and later Ottoman Turks, who enslaved Slavic people. She doesn't mention Norse, the Italian merchants or other Slavic tribes, who also supplied the Middle East with Slavic slaves
@Kosch GM For once you are right. He should be blamed for it. He should not even be, such an unholy mixture should have never been born. I’ll have to rid my home of such imperfections.
@@martinp3166 There are so many omissions, but also some by Cynic here - 9th century Muslims did have access to Slavs through the Norse who enslaved them and sold them in places as far away as Persia, and later on North Africa. The Abbasids also used Slav mercenaries in this period, so saying they did not have access to them is nonsense.
I love how the broken link accidentally implies they’re trying to say that slavery unites Americans
It unites the racists, the bigots, and the fascists, it does a lot of uniting, just not in a good way.
Owens also conveniently leaves out how it was European demand for slave labor that exacerbated slave raids in Africa. Europeans provided more incentives for African slavers which made slavery even more profitable for them.
She wouldn't know that. She couldn't even finish her freshman year of college.
Also people love to act like Africa is one super country. People don't say Rome was killing other whites, they were killing Gauls etc.
@@greyjedi1272 For real Africa is massive, so much that each countries has from dozens to 100 ethnic groups!!!
@@wrestlinganime4life288 it’s just 3 times the size of the US, just a small area. Nothing to make a big deal over.
There was already a slave trade within Africa since the middle ages. A lot of the slave traffic was redirected to the Atlantic once European demand increased.
Funny how Candice comments on "Race Hustlers" yet the only reason she's even relevant with conservatives is literally because of her race and nothing else.
Well, she show isn't relevant with them (or anybody) because of her style. Sheesh...🤣
The right love her because she has no problem selling out her own ppl. Didn't she sue someone for discrimination?
@@Chumpsdookiediaper...She sued her own White classmates in a landmark case in her hometown.
@@Boomboomroomish
Exactly. She’ll gladly play the race card when it’s convenient for her personally
There are plenty of conservatives who are people of color that few Conservatives think of on a daily basis like Owens. Have you ever heard of Michelle Steel? Probably not. She's if anything more of an outlier than Owens cuz she's an Asian American GOP representative from California, the state you'd least expect a person of color to be a Republican. And yet despite that, she's virtually irrelevant to Conservatives.
The primary reason Candace Owens is popular among Conservatives is cuz she's the Conservative version of AOC: an outspoken black woman with a bossy attitude. Not to mention she's part of the Daily Wire, a major conservative media outlet that gets millions of views daily, meaning people hear from her daily and spread the word on who she is. Yes, her being a black conservative plays it's part, but just remember it takes more than that to be on conservatives' radar.
Candice: "white people **ended** slavery"
Also Candice: "yeah slavery still exists"
It does still exist in Africa and Asia. What part of the statement was inaccurate? White people ended slavery in western countries.
@@yourmom9951 they started it too 😂😂😂
@@yourmom9951 I'd say that it was more a collective of people that ended slavery in America then just white people, I mean they legit had all types fighting in the civil war for it, so saying that white people ended slavery is not really accurate at all. They were involved in ending it yea, but like...there was also a ton of them trying to keep it around.
@@CheesierThenCheese
Who started it?
@@yourmom9951 say it again but slowly
Prager U knows they don't need Sources. They know their audience don't care..and won't look. They know their audience is only looking for things that confirm their biases.
Thats a good explanation for every Conservative who are against history, that doesn't fits their narrative.
they can't read very well anyway.
That's funny because you just described leftist inside and out 😂
Like basically every audience frankly.
They have sources, they just cite themselves, or whoever is in the video, essentially just tooting their own horn
‘Slavery has always been around’
Yeah. But like all things Americans had to make it more efficient and profitable.
@@marcon6806A+ for reading buddy!
And more vicious and long lasting.
@@mackmckinney5206 not at all
Don't forget cruel
@@nutboy93 Oh I’m sorry you don’t think you’re being just a little ridiculous? As though it was the Americans who really went out of their way to make slavery cruel?
Stop.
I love how she hates the “ race hustlers”, but she used them to sue her school board in high school 🤦🏾♀️
i doubt she believes anything she saying she is just another grifter
@@rigpa10 I am honestly starting to think she is literally a psychopath
@@endersdragon34 All the republican's are. Else they wouldn't be republicans and it wouldn't take them till the same shit happens to them to suddenly have issues with it being done.
She is a race hustler
@@endersdragon34 she works for PragerU, the jokes write themselves
It is telling that the focus is "slavery isn't about race" (true in a vacuum) and yet the first two points are "white people did not invent slaves" and "white people freed slaves." In the American context, it is sad that we view racism as the legacy of slavery and not slavery as the legacy of racism.
Yeah. The reason the US kept up the enslavement of blacks for so long was basically racism. They hated black people and didn't want them to be members of society of equal standing. While the 'North' faction may have generally been against slavery, most of them weren't extremely passionate about the issue nor cared enough to actually effect any change. Even then, most of them didn't want blacks to have equal status or participate in their society.
I've noticed that most 'incorrect' beliefs people hold are usually held because they want to believe those things are true, rather than them acting in bad faith with malicious or manipulative reasons. They don't want to believe certain groups of people they identify with or like were responsible for terrible things. Or, alternatively, they don't want to believe certain groups of people they don't like were actually responsible for good things. Because to do so means that beliefs they hold are actually wrong.
Just like any other thing even tangentially related to politics, often times people do not have a proper understanding of the thing and instead just interpret it to fit with their beliefs and/or worldview.
You hate white people? Then whites are especially evil and the grandmasters of slavery (I have seen people say things like this before IRL and online). You want to take pride in your southern heritage? Then you choose to believe the people who incorrectly say the civil war was about states rights (these are the people who aren't racist but still wave the Confederate flag) instead of the correct/real reasons it happened, so that you can continue believing 'your' group in the past weren't 'evil'. You are extremely, probably overly, proud of being 'black', but there aren't many/any widely know historically significant things ancient African civilizations have done that are known in the western sphere? Then you start believing wackos when they start claiming that the Samurai were actually all black because it makes you feel good (these people are hilarious but also sad).
The thing about slavery in general and American slavery is that it is a complex issue that has a lot of history and nuance to it. And there are groups all over the political spectrum that hold an oversimplified and/or incorrect understanding of the issue because it confirms their beliefs and view of how the world is and was.
@@liarwithagun it’s more accurate to say that for there constitution to make sense and their ideas if freedom to not be hypocritical, they had to teach that these people weren’t equal as human, and that’s why the race was considered no more than animals
Slavery is the legacy of US vs THEM mindset: Racism is too broad as it only applies along racial lines (but not gender, political, ideological etc).
This reminds me of one of Stephen Colbert's comments on The Colbert Report where he was "tallying up" white vs black accomplishments and went "Let's give white people 1 point for winning the war to end slavery, and another point for losing the war to keep slavery. Hmm, funny how there were no points for black people in that one." Except he said it as a joke.
Yeah you can’t attribute the union to one race if the confederacy was also that race lol
@@samr6408 the union was ending slavery. The confederates were fighting for states rights and defending from the war of northern aggression. (Let's ignore what was the main state right they were fighting to defend, and let's ignore the change of narrative between these two sentences.)
@@rataflechera war of Northern agression the south started the war. Curious.
@@12halo3 the south was defending themselves after the north refused a kind invitation to surrender federal property.
(Do I need a “/s” mark?)
@@rataflechera Yes, you need a '/s' note. Your comment was something right wingers say legitimately.
I remember seeing a sculpture that was put at the bottom of a reef, depicting men and women in chains, and the title was "for those who chose death over bondage". I also have a friend who visited one of the slave holding prisons in Ghana and they said it was one of the most heartbreaking things they've ever seen. Especially how matter of fact the tour guide was about everything.
It's Eastern Rome, the pagan steppe nomads, and the Italian city states that enslaved and traded Slavs in the black sea for much of the time period following the 900s she's implying. Muslims didn't dominate the trade until 1. The conversion of the Golden Horde (whose trade was still facilitated by Italian traders) and 2. the expansion of Ottoman authority into the Pontic-Caspian steppe. A more relevant example of a Muslim slave trade (what she was really digging for there) would much more easily be found in the Caucasus or Africa. I guess her audience thinks Caucasian just means white person so it wouldn't work.
@Herdan Yup, they also made up the original circle ruling the Mameluke Sultanate in Egypt as I'm sure you know.
People constantly ship white and Caucasian though, like the choose ethnicity: white/Caucasian. That and Caucasian isn’t even an option for ethnicities selection sometimes and people will use white to encompass them all.
So ya, isn’t white Caucasian at this point if everybody is grouping them together? Or is Caucasian white idk?
White people also was slave in barbary slave trade by non whites, North africans aren't whites
She is right... When talking about American slavery, no one talks about the Mongols.
Lol
Lmaooooo
Well I guess you can’t be wrong about everything
@@antoniojonathan2092 did...you just challenge PragerU?
Evrey body is talking about american achivments why not tal about arab
Wait. Let me get this right. The link for citations on “a brief history of slavery” goes to “what unites america.” I think that says everything you need to know about PragerU.
“Egypt and Persia had slaves, Europe stopped it”
All the Spartan helots that were constantly maimed and killed, sometimes for the lolz: are we a joke to you?
Don’t forget Roman slavery,
Although compared to slaves in say Athens Helots had comparatively more rights are they were tied to the land and could have families. Most other slaves didn't have that privilege.
@@666DarkTommy Athenian slaves can buy their freedom, Spartan helots don't. Anyone born from a freed slave is free, anyone born from a Spartan helot don't...
Weren’t white people the first ones to stop slavery tho(by law to be more specific)?
@@666DarkTommy Dude, being a Helot was way, way worse than being a slave in Athens. They lived in constant of fear of Spartan death squads which would round up and torture anyone who breathed resistance. They would even randomly massacre innocent Helots to keep the population in a state of perpetual fear. Being allowed to have a family doesn't mean much if that family can be tortured and killed at any point for no reason.
Conspicuous lack of mention of Biblical slavery, I noticed. Now THAT omission speaks volumes about the agenda and its ultimate religious sources
This is a common misconception born from mistranslations. It is condemned as a practice in Exodus 21:16 “Now one who kidnaps someone, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall certainly be put to death."
Slavers are also condemned wholesale in 1st Timothy 1:10, "for the sexually immoral, homosexuals, slave traders, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching".
All places in the Bible where it "justifies" slavery are cases of purposeful mistranslation for the purposes of advancing the evil practice (which sadly some modern translations have chosen not to update their wording to account for). In those cases, the translation should be the word servant. In the Old Testament, these laws are dealing with contracts, debts, , betrothals, the integrating of foreigners into the people, and things of that sort.
As for passages like Philemon which people use to say the Bible is pro-slavery this is as stated the word servant, based on context. To suggest that Philemon enslaved his own biological brother (something even the Romans wouldn't do) is as offensive as it is stupid.
The fact this idea has become mainstream shows how lax the church has gotten in teaching doctrine. If you wish to learn more on this topic I recommend copying the following into your search engine of choice: "A Condensed Anti-Slavery Bible Argument George Bourne". It is the first thing that will pop up for you.
Hope this proves of use to you. May God's grace, mercy, and wisdom be upon you and those that you love!
Run straight to the Bible and skip over the Quran....typical
@@tokyosoldier9116
Bro. Context is a thing and it is important.
@@tokyosoldier9116
The Bible predates the Quran, and of course a lot of the older Abrahamic scriptures heavily influenced the third of the Abrahamic religions, (Islam)
@@gorillaguerillaDK The modern-day Bible does not predate the Quran, only the OT/ Torah.
I like how it's called "A short history of Slavery" but she doesn't even mention the Transatlantic Slave Trade, which was a very brutal, and probably the most well-known portion of that history.
"B-but the muslims"
it is intentional not to mention the transatlantic slave trade -
@wuxin5847 Because if anyone mentioning it would be labeled as "woke" 🙄
@drakke125Channel Yes, she mentioned it in passing and she stresses how the cultures' slavery was far more worse which she tries to minimize the effects of the American system.
If, at a real university, you attached the wrong bibliogoraphy to an essay you'd be unlikely to achieve a passing grade.
It was an automatic fail for both my high-school and college courses. Not citing sources MLA style was the end all to be all, right next to plagiarism, rightfully so.
@@upinsmokeproductions6471 Accurately representing sources is the fundamental principle upon which academic rigor depends.
If I sited in my English class the same way pragerU does my teacher would absolutely fail me or at least give me a strict warning😅
@@TenderNoodle if you wrote sited in Engish class your teacher should get mad with you :P (it's cited :D)
I feel like they had to do that intentionally, like how do you not even to the basics of clicking on your own links? 
"Our concept of race is very new". SOMEBODY FINALLY SAID IT. Please make a video about this.
Yeah would love to see one because i remember my history prof told us that and she basically said that most things we think of as just something eternal like shall we say calories is something that is more or less a more recent thing.
@@miat9039 White Supremacist would be mad to find out their ancestors were labeled as yellow race(reference to hair of Western Europeans) by the Ancient Greeks Aka the people they simp for 24/7,while Jews and Arabs were labeled as white by those same Greeks 🤣.
Yes, and because of the legacy of our shared history, and modern day policies, it's problematic. But I don't think the distinction of black and white or etc. is, in and of it's self, a bad thing. If it were not used to justify slavery and second-class citizenry then loaded-words would just be descriptive terms i.e. your white-skinned, black-skinned, light-skinned, brown-skinned etc., and we'd probably still use short had words. Words that held those meanings like cracker, negro, mixed, Hispanic, Latino, chink what have you. They wouldn't (necessarily) be slurs without the legacy of slavery and racial-discrimination. In fact discrimination wouldn't likely be a loaded word. I know race is a new concept, but it doesn't matter, because it's tied to our history of abuse and struggle. So while the history of race is a great educational video fro people to see, the net impact of that history on the words we use today would, likely remain very similar. People keep on inventing new racially-discriminatory, loaded-words and terms (like thug, gangster, hillbilly, redneck, white-trash, etc.). I think a video like the one you're suggesting, could have some small impact on the way people use those newer words, but there is already rigorous black, brown and white scholarship on those issues by figures like Killer Mike and in the form of documentaries on a verity of discriminatory practices.
Extremely new. We seem to think that it’s always existed?
Even back in the 70s race was being modified. Greeks, italians, and spanish people (not 100% sure about the last part) weren’t considered “white”
I love how Candace completely ignores the Haitian Revolution (completed in 1804), which preceded both the American Civil War and the subsequent US abolition of slavery in 1865, and the British Empire's abolition of slavery in the 1830s.
Also, the French revolutionary (Jacobin) government abolished slavery -- in the 1790s -- in response to the first phase of the Haitian Revolution of the demands of the revolutionary alliance of enslaved and free black Haitians. Unfortunately, Napoleon reestablished it.
Sorry to keep commenting, but Candace's effective erasure of the immense sacrifices of black Union soldiers -- who had to fight like hell to be allowed to serve, then serve in segregated units for lower pay than white soldiers and deal with racist bullshit from their white comrades in arms -- is absolutely disgusting and despicable. She should really be ashamed of herself.
In 1707 General Maitland of Britain at the time attempted to intervene in Haiti although great disease helped with terrible losses for Britain relented from taking Haiti on behalf of the Ancient French regime. Haiti also delivered the great Napoleonic France its first defeat after Batay Vertye.
One of my largest cringes was when Owens brought up how the US fought a war to end slavery. I'm surprised you did not bring this up. Lincoln and the north initially did not fight the war to "end slavery." They were trying to preserve the union and attested the Confederacy did not have the right to secede from the country. The issue of emancipation did not come up until three years into the war.
Also describing the civil war as the US "fighting a war to end slavery" more like "half the country rose in open rebellion over the prospect of even just limiting slavery."
You don't get to just take credit for the more moral side of a civil war in your country and pretend like the other faction were utterly alien to the country and just kind of dropped out of the aether one day.
Also this is the same side flying Confederate flags
@@sherlocksmuuug6692 pisssst, it’s because PragarU supports the confederacy
That’s right. It was a pragmatic choice. It also highlights the evil of government, but I’m sure you’d prefer we not take that lesson away.
Anyone that understood the Civil War understands the government is never moral; it is violence. Period. The South was recognized as doomed prior to secession, precisely because of slavery. That big bad capitalism was destroying slavery, because it was far, far, FAR more profitable to pay one man to operate a machine than it was to buy 9 slaves, pay to feed and care for them, and pay an overseer to watch them. The South was so economically backwards that it was still behind as recently as the 1960s. The north industrialized because the incentives demanded it. Slaves were, and are now, an exceedingly unprofitable venture. They are obviously very unproductive, and because of their existence, industrialization is delayed. No slave owner would want to put a slave to work with expensive machinery; he has every reason to sabotage it.
What should have happened is to let the southern Democrats go; and then watch as they become an 1860s version of North Korea. Just like Korea, blacks would be incentivized to flee to the freer nation. It didn’t happen because government is violence, that’s the only language it speaks.
@@TheSpicyLeg it’s actually far cheaper to feed a man than pay him wages, as to pay a man wages you have to pay him above the minimum whilst with a slave then you have to give them only the minimum
It really is amazing (ie depressing) how just a mere five minute PragerU video can be filled with so much inaccuracy, half-truths, and blatant lies that it takes an *edited* 55 minute video by an actual historian to debunk it all.
Respect and appreciation for this video and this channel.
Prager Urine video has as many lies in it as it has individual words
It's called "Brandolini's law": It takes ten times more to debunk BS than it takes to say it.
26:27 French end with slavery in 1794 before haiti
White people also was slave in barbary slave trade by non whites, North africans aren't whites
@@imyourfriend1680 everyone knows that, and nobody is trying to deny the barbary, and/or Arab slave trade. We’re talking about the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Most people with even a rudimentary understanding of world history know about what you “found out”, and it’s not the “gotcha” you think it is. It’s called a whataboutism, and one doesn’t cancel out the other.
“The word slave comes from slav”
Holy shit PragerU does not know the fire they are playing with in their comment section
yup. Tell a Slavic person our name comes from being slaves is fighting words lol
@@dannyhuskerjay Never really heard fellow Slavs arguing about that.... I as a Slav actually couldnt care less from where the term Slav comes from, But thats just me
A minor correction:
Septimius Severus (the Roman Emperor you mentioned) was not black. He was of Carthaginian (thus Phoenician/Canaanite/Semitic) origins. Not white, but not black either.
I'll post the source later, I'm on my phone atm
That bust looked more like Lucius Verus to me (who wasn't black either).
Come on. That dude looked just like Jerome from Martin!
was they from africa?
@@JUSLOFI agreed.
@@MaeljinRajah Yes, he was from Africa. North Africa, to be exact. Carthage was located in what is today Tunisia.
Candice Owen is one of the most revolting public figures imaginable.
Indeed She is!
I’m not black, but a lot of black people I know hate her guts!
@@bladeobrian2144 lmao bro no a lot of us don’t hate her we are happy someone doesn’t do what their told all the damn time😭😭
@@Jash2001 She does do what she's told though, or more so says what she's told to say. She's literally just a right wing mouthpiece...
@@Jash2001 It’s funny she use to be liberal all the way but then became conservative after suing her schools district
@@quark_E yeah i’ve heard she only rlly spews out right wing things but i’ve followed her for a lil bit now and she spits out her own stuff based on how she perceives it which is my point she might b right wing biased but she speaks from her own option in support of something u get what i mean
How did candace owens and PragerU for that matter, completely forget about Haiti? I was screaming at the TV at 4am.
"Now am I saying this makes white people better than anyone else? Of course not. I'm just implying it."
@@marcon6806 by saying white people were the first people to abolish slavery. Which is not true!
@@marcon6806 nope. She is trying to minimize the severity of the atrocities that were committed during the Transatlantic Slave Trade by pretending it was not unique (which is was) and then she talks about all the „bad brown people who enslaved and cannablized each other“ by then saying it was actually white people who were the first to abolish slavery. She is a bigot and a talking mouth for white supremacyY
@@marcon6806 ? Ok and europeans started it and kept it active sooo lmao
@@bajabl Europeans didn't start slavery . . . Do you know nothing of the British crusade to end slavery around the world? Europe was one of the first continents to widely get rid of slavery, not the first to try to abolish it at all.
@@marcon6806 I want you to listen to yourself. Why would anyone give recognition to the oppressor for stopping the oppression they practiced? Also yes advocacy did help put an end to slavery in Europe, but the practice mainly ended due to it just not being a financially viable practice anymore, due to constant slave revolts in the Caribbean’s and especially since we were in the middle of the Industrial Revolution.
Interestingly, Russia is in fact mostly in what is considered Asia geographically, although this fact hardly matters because that entire huge area has been dominated by Slavic Europeans for at least the past 200 years. Still, the "Russians are not white" argument has at times been invoked to serve particular (usually white supremacist) agendas. When Japan defeated Russia in the Russo-Japanese War of the first decade of the twentieth century, white supremacists claimed that Japan's victory didn't count as a nonwhite victory because the Russians were "half Mongoloid" and thus no higher on the racial scale than the Japanese.
but 70% of Russian population lives in European part of Russia.
Christ
@@nugzarmikeladze has nothing to do with the fact that the Russian have been invaded or have incounterd by Asian step people and influenced by them. In The European part of Russia with exception of low influence from northern cities. If they may not look like it much you can say the same thing from the Bulgarian and the Hungarians lol
White people also was slave in barbary slave trade by non whites, North africans aren't whites
OMG! I'm so glad you gave the actual definition of white, people look at me crazy when I say the white identity has little to with skin color because other Europeans were left out of that identity entirely, like Irish and southern Italians. It's a very new concept put into place to separate the have from the have nots. I'm glad you mentioned it.
I've said the same thing, some of my ancestors were in fact Irish and came to America during that time only to face discrimination that so many racists think was only reserved for "non-whites"
@@ToxicAudrithe Irish an Italians got to use the whites only water fountain an restroom an got the right to vote without being threatened with death...yeah I remember when Irish an Italians went thru that
"... How Africans lived like pharoes..." Tell me, Candice, what continent is Egypt in?
😂😂😂😂😂
I think she wanted to say black people but even then there are source that prove that there were black dynasty in ancient Egypt at some point. So what was her point exactly?
@@donrog5035 she’s being racist, that’s her point lol
About a good 80% of the dynasties in Egypt where African, the rest were invading forces. Of course we can’t forget that the people south of them also adapted their culture, known as the kushites, who were probably the darkest group of Africans on the continent even today.
@@garyphisher7375
According to the genetic studies of Ramses III and his son Pentawer, both indigenous ancient Egyptians of Royal blood were tested E1B1A which is clearly a Negroid Ydna Haplogroup. Can you site your source they were Arab or are you just another racist trying to spread a narrative black people have never had or built anything?
As a person with some very conservative values, Ben Shapiro, PragerU and friends all push me farther left every time they open their awful manipulative mouths.
Same here.
I’m glad to hear this. I consider myself a progressive, but the recent shift in both parties have driven me to the center. It’s starting to feel like I don’t belong anywhere in either ideology. We get saturated with the loudest voices from the worst of them making it feel like the worlds gone mad.
@@gotmike politics is just a screaming match between children.
Eventually they will either tire themselves out or fight eachother in MAD.
When you're an independent, it's funny having people yelling things at you assuming you're apart of the opposite political group. Comedy gold
@@gotmike center is literally right-wing lmao
"we didn't do slavery first"
Ok, and?
Such a strange argument.
“The history of slavery is a nuanced, complex subject, so here is one of the world’s dumbest people to explain it in five minutes.”
So this is where all the leftist anti trumper woketards gather around🤦
@@masterlucky379 yeah we gather around actual history and videos that try to include nuance and sources.
@@masterlucky379 you kinda played yourself with that comment
damn, I spat out my coffee. LMAO
Oh, I wouldn't say is dumb. She's just followed the money. It takes a lot of ingenuity and creativity to make up the lies she uses daily.
Even the "Slavs... All of them white" is inaccurate. In the 9th century eastern Europe would have been home to migratory people's, many of whom would have had ancestors from across Central Asia. Additionally "Slavs" weren't considered wholey white by a large portion of Western Europe until the mid-twentieth century. And the concept of whiteness as a racial category didn't exist in the 9th century.
Also THAT MAP of historic slavery completely ignored the slavery of antiquity, the very basis for the Roman and Greek republics and empires which many Western chauvinists claim is the basis for their culture.
it amazing to think that not even 100 years ago I would be consider mixed race because I have half Slavic in me
This is what always annoys me about using the modern ideas of "race" for premodern time periods. The concept of overarching "races" like "white", "black" etc didn't exist at the time, the designation of people into "races" is more a product of the early colonial era.
During the Middle Ages and earlier time periods, people would have identified themselves only with their ethnic group, tribe, or *at most* a shared religion.
And when race did become a thing, nobody could seem to agree on what characteristics would allow you into the "white" club, as Benjamin Franklin famously complained about the immigration of "swarthy" Germans into the US who would dillute the "white race".
@@starmaker75 less then 80 years if you were born in Germany, and your mother would have risked punishment for “Blutschande“ for having you, and if caught while pregnant with you, you would have been aborted forcefully.
All this horrible shit is not that long past as we prefer it to be... and we should not pretend as if time made us immune to this.
@@hannajung7512 yeah it fucked up on how some people really didn’t wanted someone being part Slavic. Also funny my mom is Germanic(Swedish and German).
@@starmaker75 yeah, the Nazis were particularly about this. This is the part the allied forces did not speak enough about: the German genocide was not only on yews, the war in the regions east of Germany was a genocidal war, ment to erase and subdue the “Slavische Unterrasse“ (slavic under race, the Nazi term, not mine) and use the land as “living space“ for the German people.
The war in England and in France was bad, but nothing compared to the horror show that Eastern Europe endured.
And today white supremacists march in Russia and Poland and many other Eastern Europe countries, as if “European“ had allways included their people, too.
In the nineties German Neonazis considered Slavic people still as less then, the same assheads now “greet their Russian brothers“.
Prageru: "my source is i made it the fuck up"
Honestly i love asking these guys for sources only to either be ignored, given a link to infowars, or be given an article that directly disagrees with them.
PragerU - Source : Trust me bro
PragerU - Source: It came to me in a dream
Part of me wants to believe Dennis prager wanted to be the speaker in this one himself and had to be talked out of it
"Socialism is BASED" - Dennis Prager
🤣
What she really wants to say is white Christians ended slavery. But she ignores the other group of equal a god-fearing Bible believing Christians who are convinced that God had endorsed slavery.
There are verses that endorse slavery.
There are verses that endorse slavery.
@@3rdtimesthecharm376 they freed male Jewish slaves. Foreigners and women were property you could leave to your children.
@@3rdtimesthecharm376 what did I just read here? "so it's technically legal" --- W T F is wrong with you?
Maybe people need to understand that the Bible is also a product of it's time, among many other things, and not cherry pick currently non applicable laws that only had specific uses even when they were first put to paper!?
"If we didn't invent it, we can't be held responsible for it." That seems to be the general drive of their narrative. That, and "everyone else was doing it too," which is just primary school level infallible arguing.
What is Candace's stance on corporal punishment in schools? Should teachers be allowed to beat another parent's child for behavior that singular teacher deems inappropriate or undesirable? If she said yes, could we then blame her for "inventing" the leather strap and yard sticks to beat children with? Or would she argue that the practice was inhumane and damaging to an entire generation of young people, and we're a better society for having gotten rid of the practice? Would she agree that pressing for greater student protections in the classroom and at home would lead to a healthier, happier, more productive student body in the future? If so, why would she not agree that civil rights for racial minorities be pushed forward too, if it meant that future generations had greater opportunities and better living conditions?
There's such an aversion to discussing history that depicts the US as a willing participant in an abhorrent practice, especially one that has dictated how American society functions today. We still thrive off forced labor to this day, both at home through exploitative practices of the working poor, as well as the outsourced slavery of international trading partners using literal slave labor to produce the goods we consume.
PragerU and their dedication to educating through omission is like watching the movie Pocahontas as a kid - we see the ending as some Disney-fied fairytale where John Smith sails back to England, and Pocahontas' tribe is left proud and intact, and they all live happily ever after, but even as a nine year old, you're barely aware of the Native community, but you wouldn't consider them a thriving nation living side-by-side with you in your hometown. That dissonance is jarring, and for some they'd rather stick to the movie ending and leave it at that, while other kids watch it and think, so what happened after that, and why aren't they around today? Obviously Dennis Prager is uncomfortable or unable to correctly and convincingly answer those kinds of questions.
Candance Owens is on a personal mission to set the community back
Candance so loved American democracy, she married into the British aristocracy….
@@jasonpeacock9735 Candace Owens knows nothing about black history. Actually she's full of Republican political party talking points.
And profit while doing so!
@@jasonpeacock9735 The Alt-Right is Intense, i hope
were all updated on that, using available Info-Sources to their fullest?
Info-Sources like videos like 'Marjorie Taylor Greene Has DEEPLY Disturbing Views'
by Telltale Fireside?
PragerU was covered by so many, i dont think i have to say anything about that,
but lemme say that Some More News, Hbomberguy and Telltale Fireside!
So you want to move the community forward. You want even more deaths? Is that your progress? Research the deaths, and tell me it is due to racism. Do you not care?
She has literally made a hustle for herself by selling and regurgitating what her fellow ideological, European descendants want to hear. Actually "selling water a whale".
She must be getting paid reeeeal good
Being a conservative pundit is extremely lucrative.
Calls people "Race Hustlers", yet doesn't appreciate the irony that she is Prager U's token black spokesperson.
Damn, that's exactly what I think. I always skip her. Cause as soon as words come. Propagandace Owens, comes out.!!!!!...."SHIT"
Bro Candace is the MJ/LeBron of Grifting
Conservatives: "White people ended slavery."
Also Conservatives: *proceeds to spout the Lost Cause Myth every time the virtues of abolishment are brought up.
And they get away with it because their base gobble up everything their televangelist pastor and Trump says. What more imformed people tell them doesn't count, of course, because they don't wear a stupid red MAGA hat like themselves.
**Angry Haitian noises**
"The murderous Persian empire"
You mean the one with complete religious tolerance, a decentralized and autonomous provincial structure and no slavery?
The one that freed the Jews from Babylon and helped them in the construction of the 2nd temple?
Something ain't adding up...
Nono, that's not what the documentary 300 said, you must be clearly getting your source from a leftist history book.
Otherwise, how would the Persians have employed such terrible monsters as shown in the documentary, if they were so benevolent?
She probably watched 300
32:06 Clearly Candace hasn’t seen 300. Also I’d rather be conquered by the Achaemenid than the fucking Spartans or Romans.
Well with the spartans they didn't really have the capacity to conquer anyone other than their immediate neighbors.
@@Feminismisfornobody
Specifically because they conquered their immediate neighbors, as patrolling the neighborhood and putting down slave insurrections was the primary duty of a Spartan hoplite, I would add lol
You’re not alone; Babylonians rather wanted to be conquered by them than continue to be ruled by their current king.
@@warlordofbritannia to expand your response, most of Sparta's inhabitants were helots which where in between serf and slave
No, I'm pretty sure she did, and I'm also positive that 300 is the source of her entire outlook on classical European history.
“Saying Africans lived like pharaohs hurr durr”
I am so glad you called out how obviously stupid that statement was lol
Because it's ignorant racism or because Pharoahs were literally African?
@@yoloswaggins7121 both, but the irony of Egypt being in Africa is what really stood out to me
@@bonelessbooks9263 When these right wingers say African they mean black
I mean the ancient Egyptians were not black, so her statement is accurate.
@@SithStudy Egypt is literally in Africa so no, it’s not. If she said black people you might have a point and that’s definitely what she meant but it’s not what she said.
Thank you for helping me see the fallacies that has doused PragerU. I used to watch their videos religiously (I know I know). And you helped me break out of it. You stopped me from being a crypto.
Good on you brother. First step is admitting your faults. We’ve all been there.
I used to be a big right winger too. I'm proud of you!
Happy for you guys! 🤙
Welcome to the club. To think I believed them to be credible.
What made you change idea?
"We're only equally bad as some guys in the vaguely ancient past at a time and place of our choosing" is hardly a strong argument.
Having studied history just hurts me whenever people try to push off things like slavery.
The only slavery that’s “pushed off” is slavery practiced by non-Europeans
There are two things in this world that really pet my peeve: arbitrary injustice and the perpetuation of historical falsehoods
P.U. often does both of these things in the same breath
Okay but can we talk about how that last part sounded like the words of an abuser? "That's not racism, you are not a VICTIM of racism, right? Why call yourself a VICTIM, like you are WEAK or something?"
She has abusive tendencies. I grew up with women like her, and as a black male, I can verify that she has the kind of head tilt that I've seen and been witness to in MANY CHURCHES. LOTS. And they don't talk about people like her being well dressed abusives.
Yeah, I had an administrator tell me once to "stop playing the victim!" And she was an abusive cword if ever there was. And besides, I was being deferential, not a victim. They want it both ways, don't be a victim, but don't be defending yourself with any kind of bass in your voice. What? Quietly wait in the corner and nod and smile?
Thank you for calling Aristotle ignorant. Not because I think he wasn’t a great mind but it’s because I believe it’s okay to call people out regardless of their education, philosophy, etc.
Aparently all it takes to be considered a leftist bread tuber, is to check sources.
As we have come to learn from years of right-wing talking points based in little more than truthiness: Reality has a leftist bias
Crazy how that works.
The truth is, conservatives want to preserve a past that didn’t exist so they have to bend the facts and truth to their narratives.
Right????
Reality does not agree with conservative values. This is why doing even basic fact checking makes you a "leftist" in the Rights eyes.
8:30 she talks about places where slavery existed. Doesn't mention Europe but then goes on to talk about Slavs in the next sentence 😭
27:57 Union soldiers carrying shotguns 😂😂😂
Her parents and grandparents must be proud of her, not the least because of her employment by the people who really wish there would still be slavery in the states.
Since the PragerU crowd is embracing Dave Chapelle these days, I hope they’re embracing his views on Candace.
You know they wont. Lmao conservatives are kings of cherry picking. They will take what they want from Dave and leave out all the stuff he said about George floyd.
@@junjiito6298 pot calling the kettle black
That her p word stank ?
@@junjiito6298 Their praise for Nicki Minaj is another great example. If they did their research like she said (on HER specifically), they would have known that she made those anti-shot comments to distract the public from that lawsuit that was filed against both her and her "husband". As you know, they didn't (or any other conservative TH-cam channel for that matter) mentioned that.
You can agree with some things someone says and not on others. Conservatives support free speech unlike leftists who want to censor someone because they quote have "wrong takes". Its a slippery slope to moderate what people say because then who gets to decide what is right or wrong. All I'm saying saying is that conservatives will defend free speech even if they don't particularly like or agree with everything the individual said.
32:22 When Candance brings up Cannibalism its actually something relatively important to the institution of slavery (although she doesn't specify anything, so I wonder if she wanted to make a point on something), at least in Spain regarding indian's slavery in Central and South America. Just in case someone is wondering, in Spain after 1542 slavery for native indians was outlawed, with the exception of those which attempted against natural law (in a catholic sense) like cannibals. Because of their perceived moral/rational inferiority europeans saw slavery as necesary and even good for those communities.
Oh. :(
Being iranian I'm very thankful you said that we didn't have slavery back then ( or at least less of it ) and also pointing out how they want to blame the Muslims in the Prager U video, not often people actually give a crap about how good Persia was ( not perfect obviously, but not a horrible place ), Persia ( Achaemenid Empire at the time I think ) is always seen as the country who lost to Greeks
Praguer is anti Muslim
Yo when she said muslims, I said i'm done the video is about racisim, race and color not about religion and she only said muslims as if there were no slavery in christianety and judaism she is literally islamophob and she is talking as if slavery is okay she is literally stupid
There’s a Roman emperor who was literally nicknamed “The Arab!”
Yup. Phillip the Arab. Born in Aurantis, Arabia Paetrea, and indeed an ethnic Arab.
@@SidheKnight Is he definitely an Arab? The province was called Arabia, but I don’t know if actual ethnic Arabs as we know now lived there, I was under the impression they moved north later, during the 600s, but I might be mistaken.
@@baronofbahlingen9662 There were Arabs all over the Roman Near East as early as the 2nd century, particularly the Ghassanids and Tanukhids.
If im not wrong his father is an arab chief who get roman citizenship
@@baronofbahlingen9662 That's what the wikipedia article says at least, that the current historic consensus is that he was ethnically arab. (And it provides a bunch of sources I haven't verified yet).
As a conservative, I can’t stand PragerU, Daily Wire, Crowder, etc. anymore.
why
I don't consider them conservatives. They're reactionaries
@@CynicalHistorian correction: reactionaries + grifters
@@jurtra9090 true
"Anymore" 🤨🤨🤔 what do you mean by that ?
This is why most ppl in the black community , no matter what political stance/ social status, despise Candice Owens. She truly sells out her own community and downplays our struggles for her own personal gain whatever that may be. And what kills me the most is the fact she is a victim of racism , which has a relation to this topic, and yet she can spew out this crap.
Will this get more hate comments than the Lost Cause video? Can't wait and see! 🤷🏿♀️🍿
EDIT: Just finished the video. I watched the Prager U video when it first premiered and it was triggering. However, you debunking it and exposing the lies has made me furious and my blood is boiling. It's not even 2pm and I need a glass of wine. Keep up the good work Cypher, I enjoy your videos.
Thus far, only three. But it hasn't even been out long enough for people to have watched all the way through
@@CynicalHistorian the magic of 1.5x
I lean conservative… I can’t stand Prager U. They are one of two channels I’ve blocked. They drive me absolutely crazy
Analysing her "ideas", I think she would be one of West Africa monarchs who participated in Transatlantic trade
Bartalome De Las Casas would refuse to hear confession from Spaniard slave owners as a form of protest. That the owners of slaves in Colonial Spain felt compelled to confess for forgiveness I think shows that there were definitely Europeans who knew, or at least felt, that slavery was a moral wrong that could even taint their souls.
As a black woman I feel slavery was about one color green..
Thank you man, for just being a part of the solution. Everyone may have an agenda, but at least your listed sources work lol
Indeed
"...flat out lying is different from being subjective." - Hunter S. Thompson, Interview with the Atlantic Monthly (9/17/1997)
Funny how so many people forget that Candace Owens was originally running an "Anti Trump" website...but it didn't make her any money..so she switched gears...
She is the living embodiment of Grifting. Lol
Dave Rubin would fight her for that title.
@Jack McCabe Candice? Open minded? You've got to be kidding. She even got called out on Rogan for having set opinions without knowing the first thing about the subject.
Her opinions are all based on the current stance of Republican supporters.
She wouldn't understand nuance if several forms of it kicked her in the arse from multiple levels.
@@fredsmith-kingofthelunatic7810 amen...
People also forget that she sued her school in a landmark case in her hometown for...WAIT FOR IT...WAYCISM. So, she literally made 💰 off of race. Making HER a race hustler.
@@Boomboomroomish she's the worst of all the grifters out there.
Prager U's own web page says they are "Changing minds through the creative use of digital media" it says NOTHING of making any attempts at truth or accuracy. Given this video of thiers, I'd say they are VERY creative...they certainly created a lot of thier own facts.
I don't even understand the point of bringing up other historical examples of slavery. Is this supposed to make it sound like actually American slavery wasn't that bad or something? It sounds like trying to defend the Holocaust by pointing out that lots of societies through history were antisemitic.
Humans are only bad if we compare ourselves to the saints we pretend to be
compared to animals we are merciful
@@marcon6806 American Chattel Slavery was unique in it’s brutality in it’s short time in comparison to all other forms. Also that it was specific to 2 races and one basing their justification of it on superiority. American slavery bred white supremacy. No one cares you’re getting tired of hearing about white people’s involvement in it. Especially when a lot of white people these days don’t want to even acknowledge how bad it was. The mental part was equal to or worse than the physical. It has an effect to this day and it was by design to.
To be fair, Jefferson’s stance on slavery isn’t as one sided as it seems.. it must not be forgotten that he ended the slave trade during his presidency and that he introduced a bill which would have gradually ended slavery and most likely prevented a Civil War(it failed to pass by one vote and TJ would later comment “.. thus we see the fate of millions unborn hanging on the tongue of one man, & heaven was silent in that awful moment! but it is to be hoped it will not always be silent & that the friends to the rights of human nature will in the end prevail.”) and that his Declaration of Independence was often cited by abolitionists and civil rights activists(MLK called it the predecessor to the Emancipation Proclamation).. not to mention it also provided the model for the Massachusetts Declaration of Rights, which proved vital in abolishing slavery in the state.. one could argue that he indirectly ended the system he participated in.
Yeah it always seemed strange to me how he made slavery out to be a moral evil which was agreed upon by others like Washington and Franklin yet still had slaves themselves. Were they just feeling guilty?
@@Spongebrain97 I'm sure a lot of us have moral issues with the way Social Media has come to divide and insulate people, yet... Here we are.
@@Spongebrain97 Do you honestly believe those men could've simply "Let Them Free" in the 1700's ? In America?
Would you prefer they send them all.....alone.....back on a boat to Africa? Exactly HOW would've you have "Set Your Slaves Free" in the late 1700's in America?
Show us how it's done, please.
@@Macheako it seems like you're barking up the wrong tree of what I said. It should be noted that Franklin did free his slaves and Jefferson and Washington did as well but on their death beds. So it was definitely possible to free their own slaves at the time. What Im asking is how like they could privately and or openly condemn slavery yet partake in it. Especially because at a certain point they didn't need slaves to remain wealthy
Oh wow having nuance, but sorry Dennis prager is not into nuance unless fits them.
I know for a fact that Candace Owens knows better (especially with the NAACP acting on her behalf), but I think she is so deep into her grift she can't get out and has to embrace it.
Yeah, Columbus was no "intrepid explorer." He was a crank who thought the world was shaped like a pear turned on its side (a theory that got him laughed out of his home of Genoa before getting laughed out of France and England) and basically "took a wrong turn at Albequerque" attempting to chart out a water-route to the Indian subcontinent, but tried to make the best out of a bad situation by... basically trying to BS his way out of it. He called every new plant he stumbled across "Pimento" because he promised black pepper from Tellicherry to the Spanish Crown, he looted the treasures of the Taino and Carab peoples, and he was known to torture and mutilate anyone who so much as flashed him a defiant eye. In fact, his enslavement and torture of the locals got so bad, in 1500 Columbus returned to Spain to collect his share of the treasure brought back to the Old World during his tenure as governor of Hispaniola... and was immediately stripped of all rank and titles before being tossed in prison for his crimes against the Taino.
That bit gets left out of the "Columbus Discovered America" myth, a tale written by "Rip Van Winkle" and "The Legend Of Sleepy Hollow" author Washington Irving and co-opted by 19th-century Italian-American immigrants who were sick to the teeth of discrimination and often countered with "Oh, yeah? Well, an Italian discovered America! Whattaya think o' THAT, smart guy?"
Also, Candace Owens is a white-supremacist because she's a take-it-in-the-ear-for-a-beer SELLOUT. Willing to work in "The Big House" and sneer at the chattel in the fields for not being "smart enough" to stab your own in the back for a cushier and more opulent form of second-class citizenship. What white-supremacists call "One Of The Good Ones" and what everyone else calls "A Goddamn Moron."
Yeah Candace is a clown
@@h1p.h0p That woman is self-hating racism made flesh.
But racial discrimination ceased to be a problem when Candace Owens received her payout, don’t you know?
@@SPDYellow And it's for THAT reason that even DAVE CHAPELLE, who refuses to apologize for being a transphobe and is currently going all "Kids These Days" in his standup-sets, has called Candace Owens a "House N*****."
@@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 TV Tropes has a term for her: Boomerang Bigot.
Candice is doing it for financial gain 💵 she is a joke. Love this video!
you love a vid that is complaining a short vid time skips ,cries about semantics and is claiming they are claiming things they are not ?
she's a disingenuous grifter who gets paid to be a black talking head spouting white supremacist propaganda
@@m.j.vazquez4720 uh... what?
@@Will-tm5bj ?
@@m.j.vazquez4720 was just hoping for a translation of your comment
The saddest thing here: this fantastic video has barely a tenth of the views that prageru’s video does
Yes but there are other videos debunking Candass
It is silly that Candace use slavery in Africa and Classical Europe as a comparison as an equivalence in the US.
From what I remember in my History classes, slavery done in the Old World is more a system of indentured servitude (which the New World used to have in the early days to attract new colonists), and prisoners of war taken by the victor to be used for labor. The Chattel Slavery used in the New World not only has a genocidal element to it with the Atlantic Slave Trade killing off a sizable number of enslaved Africans during the journey at sea, but they also "improved" on the "Peculiar Institution" once the Atlantic Slave Trade is outlawed by allowing the enslaved Africans to have children so those children become "property" of their owners to work the fields or sold off as profit.
if I remember correctly, that type of slavery, where an entire race of people is held in bondage including future children is unheard of.
Also, Persia has no slavery under the Achaemenid because Zoroastrianism forbids slavery. And while Islam also has slavery, the Quran forbid Muslims from enslaving other Muslims, which along with taxing non-Muslims, and non-Muslims having no rights despite being tolerated provides a very good incentive for people under the control of a Muslim kingdom to convert to Islam.
Romans could decide to "free" a slave to marry her since sexual equality wasn't a thing. American slavery strictly forbade racial intermarriage, a practice that lasted til the 1960s.
"If I remember correctly, that type of slavery, where an entire race of people is held in bondage including future children is unheard of."
If you mean to the extreme and widespread nature of that practice in New World slavery, then I would agree with that tentatively. Only because it's a little difficult to get exact numbers from texts that don't give any. Blood slavery was quite common in a lot of the world. In the Old Testament, female slaves that were taken as wives were typically treated better than non-married female slaves. Most likely because their entire existence was to breed more slaves. It's honestly difficult for me to point to a practice of slavery allowed in the Bible and say "That's the worst one."
Yeah I think Islamic slavery is ignored....
She said nothing about the persecution of black people _after_ the civil war, which is... pretty much still going on.
Not useful for her narrative
@@lusciouslucius have you like... been to america? Literally go into any major city and just walk around the "bad part of town" for five minutes, then come back and tell me how privileged black people are.
@@lusciouslucius are you trolling or are you actually this stupid?
They never do. They almost never mention 100 years of Jim Crow. Then, when it is mentioned they proceed to deflect about how it was the Democrats. Then, when you mention the Southern Strategy they pretend like it didn't happen. I don't know if these people are dumb or they just love skipping over entire long, significant portions of history.
@@3rdtimesthecharm376...Then, you haven't been looking and living in your privilege as well as your racism.
Loved your video.
She has also made dubious claims such as the Southern Strategy & party realignment being a myth and that Hitler wasn’t a nationalist. She made these claims when speaking to some Congressional committee a few years ago, which was covered by C-SPAN. Her fans, oddly enough, hold up that appearance as an example of her “brilliance,” despite it being nothing more than a collection of poorly researched talking points.
Everybody: Slavery happened in American and it’s a very important tragedy that this country committed and we need to remember it
Candace Owens: But… like… the Mongols were worse!
White people also was slave in barbary slave trade by non whites, North africans aren't whites
@@imyourfriend1680
The point is that it was about race in the US and if you're an American talking about slavery in your country, you don't have to bring others to the conversation.
Of course whites can be enslaved but so what? The point is that, where you live, white enslaved black people and race discrimination was a factor which can't be ignored. It's simple.
6:59 Best part is that what he was doing was illegal as (by the laws of Indias) the Americans were legally Spanish subjects which meant that enslaving them was illegal. In fact the Queen removed him of all his posts over this...
7:53 Actually they weren't officialy property (as for the laws of Indias that was illegal), and indeed they were serfs.
Imagine being such a good historian you can quote yourself
But he is still humble enough to say he would never consider himself a "renouned" historian lol
I mean, when Americans talk about Slavery they talk about Slavery in America because that is the one that had the most effect on our history.