I’m new to turning. The contour sanding tips were excellent. Just what I was looking for. I just turned some ash into a trophy 🏆 I definitely needed a lot of sanding. Thank you.
Sam thanks for info and demo (rubbing you the wrong way - pretty funny) - we all mostly dread the sanding part so anything to speed it up and get it ready for finishing is always welcomed.
Great video Sam. Lots of very useful information. I use the 2 inch pads in a compressed air angle grinder without air. I am going to try using it powered by air. Thanks for the opportunity to see your sanding workflow. Best, Bob
Thank you very much for this video Sam! I am a very new woodturner and sanding is a definite weakness of mine. This video was a very nice help and cleared some things up for me. As always, your videos are a huge help to me and I appreciate them very much. You are also very entertaining as well, so that helps as well! Keep up the good work my friend, and take care!
I'm not sure why I want to go to the beach now... Nicely done, Sam. I like the close quarters drill, available under different brands (and qualities), it keeps your hands closer to the work and reduces the twisting torque on your hands and wrists.
Sam. I use power sanding as well. I sand in both directions. One point I didn’t hear is your drill direction of rotation. I always sand with the drill running against the lathe direction. I feel I get better results. Thanks for sharing.
I literally never Sand with my drill running in reverse. This seems to work for me. If I am power sanding I sand with the lathe speed as low as it will go. If I want more speed I simply speed up the drill. But you have a good question I hope this answers it thanks Sam
Sam when your Velcro wears out go to your local fabric shop (where your wife goes to get her sewing material) you can burn 2" wide Velcro by the foot usually with a sticky back. Much cheaper than buying a whole new pad.
Rick I do have several sizes of Velcro in my shop that I used to repair my sanding pads. I never thought of going to a fabric store. But we don't have a fabric store in this town believe it or not we also don't have a shoe store ha ha. Another place to get Velcro is your NAPA store but I find it pretty pricey thanks Sam
Very helpful Sam, thanks. What about speed rpm of drill sanding? I use a battery drill mostly because I like having no cord in the way. Do you think the higher rpms is an advantage for using the corded drill? Thanks
There are two options for speed. What is your lathe speed and the other is your drill. I never try to speed up either too terribly fast, It just creates too much heat. As far as a corded drill or battery powered drill I don't see a great deal of difference in speed. I sometimes use my my battery powered drill as a matter of convenience just to do a little sanding if I need to. I don't find my cord gets in the way when I'm sanding I have that drill sitting under my lathe and it is always in a good position to just grab it and do a little sanding. Thanks Sam
I do nothing special other than making sure the scroll chuck is tightened securely. I do not use the set screws cause they can (and have) damage the spindle threads. Interesting topic for a video.....Sam
Denis I am really never done inertia sanding. But I see a lot of Turners doing this and it looks like a great idea and some respects it is better than power sanding because the speed that results is a little bit more natural. I would say if it works go for it and save electricity Sam
I truly enjoyed this video! I have a question, when you are power sanding do you have to he direction of the drill going the same direction as the piece that you are sanding?
I almost always have my drill running only in one direction. It is running clockwise or the direction that you might tighten a screw. I just find this works best for me when I am using my drill turn the speed down very slow. If I want more speed then I simply increase the speed of the drill. The other variable is to have your lathe running in forward or reverse. For me this depends on whether I am turning a spindle for a crossgrain peace.sam
Hi Sam from Mr.B up in 🇨🇦. I bought myself a used lathe and Saturday my aluminum pulleys disintegrated on me . Long story short I found another exact used lathe as mine but a couple years newer and has a better tool rest and a few other small things like attached levers on tail stock etc. My next purchase is a new chuck that does NOT USE THE TWO BARS TO TIGHTEN. I’m DONE skinning my knuckles. So I have a 1” with 8tpi . I can get a Barracuda 2 off Amazon for $189 🇨🇦 funds. It comes with 4 sets of jaws so I’m sure it will do all I need. I’m not interested in turning BIG BOWLS. I just only made two well 3 projects do far but the 3 rd one was a small box and I got to thin with my lid and it blew apart. Lol . Good learning experience. Do you think this is a good chuck for the price. It’s in my budget . If you have any advice for me on a different chuck in the $225 🇨🇦range I would GREATLY APPRECIATE IT . Thanks for all you do for the wood turning community.
Mr. B I have a friend who has this particular chuck. The barracuda. From everything I know about it, it is a good chuck and a great option with the other jaw accessories. It all comes down to what you want to spend. I have never gotten rich off selling my stuff. But I have bought a lot of tools and accessories to make things more convenient when I'm doing things. My chucks are either nova chucks or VICmarc chucks. One difference now from when I started turning is there are many many good options for less expensive scroll to. I just really don't have a lot of information because I haven't used other scroll trucks. Sam
WYOMINGWOODTURNER thank you for replying back Sam . I think I’m going to pull the trigger on the BARRACUDA 2. It will do all I need it to do. The biggest and best feature will be NO MORE SKINNING MY KNUCKLES with the two bars like my current chuck., But seriously I’m looking forward to being able to use a hand to support the wood and tighten chuck with other hand.
Yes it certainly would be easier but I don't own a vacuum chuck. And after all these years doing things a certain way I'm not going to add a vacuum chuck. However I might have mentioned that in the video. Thanks for posting that idea. I think 20 or 25 years ago I might have considered getting a vacuum System. And the other thing is I'm simply not turning Mass quantities of bowls like I did at one point. Thanks for your question.
Sam, there sure is a lot of information here. My shop teacher said that there was no reason to sand past 400 grit especially on hardwoods. His thought was after 400 one is only burnishing the wood. He said if one does not gets the finish one wants, you changed grits too soon. Your thoughts please? SAFE TURNING, JOHN
John, lots of variables on this subject. I have found that on softer woods you can start sanding with 150 grit or so. I usually end with 400 or 600 on salad bowls but I am also power sanding with a drill. I NEVER start sanding by hand on larger pieces when I can use my drill. It is just too hard to get those scratches out that go around the circumference of a bowl. On boxes I usually hand sand and wet sand but start with 220 or so and make sure my tool work is good. But I agree that burnishing wood will result from old used sandpaper, turning too fast or maybe the kind of wood you are turning. Sam
Larry as a general rule I try to turn my Lathe speed way down when I am power sanding. If I want more speed in the formula I simply speed up my drill. If I am hand sanding I'm going to turn my lathe speed up a bit but it depends on the diameter of the piece you're working on and some other factors. You just have to find something that works for you.
I was going to give you another option, but I just saw below that Manuel Alvarez said it first. Stand on the other side of the lathe. But in the end----not a deal breaker if your lathe does not travel in reverse. Sam
I hope that you didn't take me wrong. It strictly is not your fault that I have a sorry (in my opinion) lathe. The only way that I can reverse the rotation is to change ends with my work piece and that is what I do for now. One day maybe I can get me a better lathe and tools. Love your videos and am a subscriber.
. I mentioned above that I have put much of my money that I have made in would turning back into my shop. I would like to think if I won the lottery I just keep going out to my shop every day and have fun. And I understand that other wood Turner's out there can't go out and buy a one-way lathe or powermatic and I respect and appreciate that. And..... A lot of people just simply don't want to spend money on shop tools. They have other priorities and that's cool. So if you want to upgrade your lathe someday I would recommend the jet 12 inch midi. I think it's a good upgrade and unless you are turning really really large items it will last you for a long time. Sam
Hi Sam. Thanks for all the sanding tips. I've been turning for a few years and sanding all wrong. I learned a lot. Keep the tips coming.
Bob in SoCal
I’m new to turning. The contour sanding tips were excellent. Just what I was looking for. I just turned some ash into a trophy 🏆 I definitely needed a lot of sanding. Thank you.
Sam. I enjoyed your video. You have included a lot of good tip. Thanks for sharing.
Sam thanks for info and demo (rubbing you the wrong way - pretty funny) - we all mostly dread the sanding part so anything to speed it up and get it ready for finishing is always welcomed.
Thanks for the great info! I'm a new turner, and this will make a huge difference in how I sand my work.
Great video Sam. Lots of very useful information. I use the 2 inch pads in a compressed air angle grinder without air. I am going to try using it powered by air. Thanks for the opportunity to see your sanding workflow. Best, Bob
Lot's of useful info in your video, thanks for sharing!
Thank you very much for this video Sam! I am a very new woodturner and sanding is a definite weakness of mine. This video was a very nice help and cleared some things up for me. As always, your videos are a huge help to me and I appreciate them very much. You are also very entertaining as well, so that helps as well! Keep up the good work my friend, and take care!
thanks for the great sanding tips! i learn more and more on this channel too!grtngs!
I'm not sure why I want to go to the beach now...
Nicely done, Sam. I like the close quarters drill, available under different brands (and qualities), it keeps your hands closer to the work and reduces the twisting torque on your hands and wrists.
Great video Sam. Thankyou cheers mate
Sam. I use power sanding as well. I sand in both directions. One point I didn’t hear is your drill direction of rotation. I always sand with the drill running against the lathe direction. I feel I get better results. Thanks for sharing.
I literally never Sand with my drill running in reverse. This seems to work for me. If I am power sanding I sand with the lathe speed as low as it will go. If I want more speed I simply speed up the drill. But you have a good question I hope this answers it thanks Sam
Some very good info Sam, not only for the beginner but also for the experienced. Thanks for sharing!
Take care, Dave
As always thanks very much for watching Dave. Four more days and counting and Doug will be here. Later Sam
A lot of good tips here Sam, I am going to get a few extra 50mm pads so I don't wear out the Velcro. Big thanks
Wouldn't be without my inertia sander as well as power and hand sanding!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Sam when your Velcro wears out go to your local fabric shop (where your wife goes to get her sewing material) you can burn 2" wide Velcro by the foot usually with a sticky back. Much cheaper than buying a whole new pad.
Rick I do have several sizes of Velcro in my shop that I used to repair my sanding pads. I never thought of going to a fabric store. But we don't have a fabric store in this town believe it or not we also don't have a shoe store ha ha. Another place to get Velcro is your NAPA store but I find it pretty pricey thanks Sam
WYOMINGWOODTURNER I believe it Sam I live in that same small town here in Ontario nearest place with that stuff is an hour away.
Very helpful Sam, thanks. What about speed rpm of drill sanding? I use a battery drill mostly because I like having no cord in the way. Do you think the higher rpms is an advantage for using the corded drill? Thanks
There are two options for speed. What is your lathe speed and the other is your drill. I never try to speed up either too terribly fast, It just creates too much heat. As far as a corded drill or battery powered drill I don't see a great deal of difference in speed. I sometimes use my my battery powered drill as a matter of convenience just to do a little sanding if I need to. I don't find my cord gets in the way when I'm sanding I have that drill sitting under my lathe and it is always in a good position to just grab it and do a little sanding. Thanks Sam
Hi Sam. You talk about reversing the lathes direction when sanding. How do you secure the chuck to the spindle so it doesn't spin off?
Bob in SoCal
I do nothing special other than making sure the scroll chuck is tightened securely. I do not use the set screws cause they can (and have) damage the spindle threads. Interesting topic for a video.....Sam
What is you opinion on inertial sanding? Is it the equivalent to power sanding?
Denis I am really never done inertia sanding. But I see a lot of Turners doing this and it looks like a great idea and some respects it is better than power sanding because the speed that results is a little bit more natural. I would say if it works go for it and save electricity Sam
I truly enjoyed this video! I have a question, when you are power sanding do you have to he direction of the drill going the same direction as the piece that you are sanding?
I almost always have my drill running only in one direction. It is running clockwise or the direction that you might tighten a screw. I just find this works best for me when I am using my drill turn the speed down very slow. If I want more speed then I simply increase the speed of the drill. The other variable is to have your lathe running in forward or reverse. For me this depends on whether I am turning a spindle for a crossgrain peace.sam
Hi Sam from Mr.B up in 🇨🇦. I bought myself a used lathe and Saturday my aluminum pulleys disintegrated on me . Long story short I found another exact used lathe as mine but a couple years newer and has a better tool rest and a few other small things like attached levers on tail stock etc.
My next purchase is a new chuck that does NOT USE THE TWO BARS TO TIGHTEN. I’m DONE skinning my knuckles. So I have a 1” with 8tpi . I can get a Barracuda 2 off Amazon for $189 🇨🇦 funds. It comes with 4 sets of jaws so I’m sure it will do all I need. I’m not interested in turning BIG BOWLS. I just only made two well 3 projects do far but the 3 rd one was a small box and I got to thin with my lid and it blew apart. Lol . Good learning experience.
Do you think this is a good chuck for the price. It’s in my budget . If you have any advice for me on a different chuck in the $225 🇨🇦range I would GREATLY APPRECIATE IT . Thanks for all you do for the wood turning community.
Mr. B I have a friend who has this particular chuck. The barracuda. From everything I know about it, it is a good chuck and a great option with the other jaw accessories. It all comes down to what you want to spend. I have never gotten rich off selling my stuff. But I have bought a lot of tools and accessories to make things more convenient when I'm doing things. My chucks are either nova chucks or VICmarc chucks. One difference now from when I started turning is there are many many good options for less expensive scroll to. I just really don't have a lot of information because I haven't used other scroll trucks. Sam
WYOMINGWOODTURNER thank you for replying back Sam . I think I’m going to pull the trigger on the BARRACUDA 2. It will do all I need it to do. The biggest and best feature will be NO MORE SKINNING MY KNUCKLES with the two bars like my current chuck., But seriously I’m looking forward to being able to use a hand to support the wood and tighten chuck with other hand.
Sam, when you reverse chucked the bowl wouldn't it be easier finishing the foot using a vacuum chuck?
Yes it certainly would be easier but I don't own a vacuum chuck. And after all these years doing things a certain way I'm not going to add a vacuum chuck. However I might have mentioned that in the video. Thanks for posting that idea. I think 20 or 25 years ago I might have considered getting a vacuum System. And the other thing is I'm simply not turning Mass quantities of bowls like I did at one point. Thanks for your question.
Sam, there sure is a lot of information here. My shop teacher said that there was no reason to sand past 400 grit especially on hardwoods. His thought was after 400 one is only burnishing the wood. He said if one does not gets the finish one wants, you changed grits too soon. Your thoughts please? SAFE TURNING, JOHN
John, lots of variables on this subject. I have found that on softer woods you can start sanding with 150 grit or so. I usually end with 400 or 600 on salad bowls but I am also power sanding with a drill. I NEVER start sanding by hand on larger pieces when I can use my drill. It is just too hard to get those scratches out that go around the circumference of a bowl. On boxes I usually hand sand and wet sand but start with 220 or so and make sure my tool work is good. But I agree that burnishing wood will result from old used sandpaper, turning too fast or maybe the kind of wood you are turning. Sam
@@WYOMINGWOODTURNER Thanks for the response!SAFE TURNING, John
What is the lathe speed?
Larry as a general rule I try to turn my Lathe speed way down when I am power sanding. If I want more speed in the formula I simply speed up my drill. If I am hand sanding I'm going to turn my lathe speed up a bit but it depends on the diameter of the piece you're working on and some other factors. You just have to find something that works for you.
WYOMINGWOODTURNER thanks. The speed looked slow. Great info, thanks for answering my question.
Where is your shirt
Which shirt? Maybe you're asking about my Akron shirt 😃
Sam, a helpful hint : American automotive suppliers offer 10% military service discounts including sanding and finishing supplies.
That is great piece of information to know. Thank you very much sam
First
What if your a broke wood worker and your cheapo lathe does not have reverse?
Thomas Russell Flip the project.
Walk to other side of lathe. It will be coming at you in a different direction, but the grain rotation does not change.
Manuel Alvarez small shop, lathe against the wall, but thanks for the suggestion.
Good idea, Sam
I was going to give you another option, but I just saw below that Manuel Alvarez said it first. Stand on the other side of the lathe. But in the end----not a deal breaker if your lathe does not travel in reverse. Sam
I see that you aren't using a harbour freight lathe. I have really enjoyed mine but it is a poor excuse for a lathe.
I hope that you didn't take me wrong. It strictly is not your fault that I have a sorry (in my opinion) lathe. The only way that I can reverse the rotation is to change ends with my work piece and that is what I do for now. One day maybe I can get me a better lathe and tools. Love your videos and am a subscriber.
. I mentioned above that I have put much of my money that I have made in would turning back into my shop. I would like to think if I won the lottery I just keep going out to my shop every day and have fun. And I understand that other wood Turner's out there can't go out and buy a one-way lathe or powermatic and I respect and appreciate that. And..... A lot of people just simply don't want to spend money on shop tools. They have other priorities and that's cool. So if you want to upgrade your lathe someday I would recommend the jet 12 inch midi. I think it's a good upgrade and unless you are turning really really large items it will last you for a long time. Sam