I've never seen fans do this before... So cool!
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- The new Lian-Li Uni P28 fans have a pretty unique feature!
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Pre-Orders for the Lian Li Uni P28 fans will be available starting 5/12!
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For our European audience- it begins on the 12th of May
Just to clarify some fan terminology: angle of attack refers to the angle between the incoming air and the mean camber line (imaginary line from lead edge to trailing edge), the curvature of the blade is referred to as the camber, chord length is the length of the blade cross-section from leading edge to trailing edge in a straight line, and pitch is the overall angle of the blade relative to rotation. When you refer to the angle of attack changing due to the deeper fan, it really is the chord length and pitch that are changing and not the angle of attack. Sorry for the rant, but as an aerospace engineer, just thought I would clarify. Love the videos! You are one of my favorite tech TH-camrs.
Is this the twelfth of May, or the fifth of December? :D
The blade "swoop" is the "Pitch"
Did Jay really make a video with moving fans and not get his finger stuck in it? I am impressed.
was thinking the same
Same! 😂 I’ve seen enough videos of Jay hurting himself and thought this would be a for sure way for him to hurt himself
They also didn't do the carrot test or use a tissue to indicate flow 😂
i thought the same
Ah man, spoilers…. Haha
It's quite impressive what LianLi has been doing to their fan products, it is expensive but it is damn well thought and designed. I have the AL120 and some other generic fans, and it's NOTICABLE the difference between both. Also they are always innovating into giving people options and options that are really well executed.
i got 9 SL fans when they first came available. (i personally dont like the AL version lighting) I will never buy another fan unless they have a similar connection style like the Lian Li Unifans. Reduced cables and just a solid system over all.
My only complaint with Lian Li's fans are the software. I wish L-Connect had more lighting customization and didn't require admin permission every time you boot your computer. If there was a way to use iCue with these fan's I'd call them perfect.
@@LeOneToyota i wished my SL120 can get controlled by L-Connect...since i got them, the Software never changed the Speed whatever i do :D
@@LeOneToyota you can turn the software initialization on windows startup off and it will still keep working just fine, that was annoying me as well.
wish the same could be said about their AIO because the galahad long term is complete garbage. Already had to get a replacement from Lian Li not barely a year after using it...and yes it was positioned 'correctly'. IMO Lian Li makes ok products but if you want real temperature improvements you go with Noctua.
JY just wanted to thank you. At 52 years old I built my first ever computer and it booted up on the first power on. Went so smooth and I owe it all to you and your amazing videos. Thank you
I really want Lian-Li to release a reverse flow fan. If you want a good fan layout in their own case, you'll be seeing a lot of the backs of fans. While they did make some of them nice, like the infinity fan, the front is still considerably nicer looking. This alone has me considering Phanteks or Thermaltake, even though I prefer the look of the unifan.
Thermaltake has the SwaFan. If you haven't check that out.
@@benjaminthorpe3380 Yeah, I know about those which is why I said I was considering it, especially since they now have the single cable design too. Thing is I really like the look of the infinity mirror unifan
@@benjaminthorpe3380 Thermaltake is garbage.
Yeah same here. I'd like to use Lian LI fans, but then I gotta look at fan backs all day and who the hell likes fan backs!? So D30's it is.
Phanteks D30s are awesome
i am SO ungodly happy for these. RGB is cool but i prefer not having lighting. TOTALLY picking these guys up when they come out
I've got some Seasonic Magflow fans for this reason. Similar in that they're modular but with no LEDs, only 120mm though.
Thanks!
I got this fans today in black they are indredible good and sounds good inside the case!!!!! they look great!!!!
Whoa!!! A video where Jay did NOT stick his fingers in the blades!
Impressive!!!! 😂😂😂
I'm thinking of getting these pretty soon. Been impressed with what Lian Li has done with their fans so far.
As someone who doesn't like RGB o my cases, I really appreciate seeing unlit options!
AL v2 140 HYPE!
I've always liked Lian-Li products. All the way back to my first full custom build in 2002 with the brushed aluminum case. I think I still have it sitting in storage somewhere with a dual core Athlon sitting in it.
Also, airflow restriction on a fan actually decreases the workload and fan RPM increases to keep the amp draw roughly the same. For example you'll notice this when using a vacuum cleaner and you block the hose. Airflow throughput = work.
However, since these are smarter PWM controlled fans, they probably have some combination of Static Pressure and sound control based on RPM & Amps and that's why they slowed down.
Correct.
I suspect those fans will move 92.0 CFM flow at Zero mm H20 pressure.
And will produce 4.79 mm H20 pressure at Zero CFM flow.
Or very close to these numbers....
All the CFM in this video reminded me of a video you did a while back saying we still use CFM everywhere even in metric countries. In metric countries (that's everywhere outside of the US by the way lol) they use m3 per min, but CFM is popular in the same way that display sizes are still advertised in inches pretty much everywhere too.
I also enjoyed the seamless mixture of units of measure being used with the CFM and mmH2O lol.
I've got 10 SLinfinity fans in my rig right now. They don't perform the best for water cooling but I decided to make that trade off of higher water Temps for the best looking fans possible.
That said the performance on these is very compelling. I'm tempted to swap over.
Damn, I remember drooling over Lian Li full aluminum cases back in the day when I was a cage stocker at Frys. This was in the early 2000's They, and computing in general, have come a long, long way since then. Good for them. They make great truly innovative products.
Lian li never fails to impress me! I'm using the 011d xl case with 10 of the SL120's and the V2 strimers and the look n performance is fantastic! Thank's for the updates n info Jay!!!!
The way everything just slots in is sooo satisfying
To me, that air passing through the Rad is a beautiful sound.
I’m using the Lian Li SL120 3pk - they are absolutely incredible! The lighting is very bright, but they don’t irritate your eyes as if you’re seeing a plain l.e.d.
FINALY!!!!! Ive been waiting for P28's since they were announced! Cant wait to get some.
I bought some Corsair maglev fans, haven't arrived yet but I'm excited, even though they are rated at 30dbs. Upgrading from Dell case fans from 2005.
Nice for people who want to have the option to choose with or without rgb. Personally I'll go with either the SL 120 or Infinity. Both are my favorite.
Now THIS is cool. Lian Li is basically leading the fan market at this point, and its super cool to seem them come out with some non rgb fans and bring more innovation to the table at the same time. Goes to show they're really pushing and not resting on what they've already achieved, which is a helluva lot.
I disagree I think it's Thermaltake especially with their swafans that let you swap the fan blade direction so you don't have to worry about how you position your fans. Also the Lian Li connectors are just NZXTs design but much improved. Also Thermaltake has fans that just interconnect as well and they came out around the same time as Lian Li. I think Lian Li is just more popular and spend more on marketing.
Phanteks, be quiet, Noctua are the actual narket leaders in terms of performance.
@@Chopper153 Unifan P28 beats Noctua NF-A12x25 in every way possible (according to spec sheet). Only the thicker T30 will probably beat this one. Noctua slept for many years after ripping off Nidec Gentle Typhoon and now everyone has surpassed them.
14:25 The radiator is also empty, acting as a resonance box. But yes, fans will be more whinny as they get close to objects, it is a "vacuum" effect (not enough air entering) and that's why they spin faster too when they get fully choked (less wind drag).
I really love everything LianLi is doing right now. I have the 011 dynamic XL plus 7 of their SL120s I love them both. However I'd like to note that in the 1 year I've had them running the LEDs on the SL120s have got duller and duller to the point that one of them has no LED at all.
i love jay's videos where he's being himself. i can't stand these videos that are just an ad.
Love their cases, Love their fans, I just hate their fan prices lol Great video! Great review!
A lot of variations, easy to find your fitting. But again, I agree with the Prices on the fans. ❤😅
ever heard of corsair ?
@@sopcannon I hope you don't mean that in a positive way, cause corsair reeeeeally lost their mind regarding prices haha
@@IIShana-chan no definitely sarcasm. i have 5 corsair ql fans which i bought after having other corsair fans.
@@sopcannon beQuiet! has some crazy prices as well. 3:0
I've been an NZXT guy for a while, but for my next full build (which I am planning for next year), I am going all in on Lian Li!
Wow Jay! I'm really impressed! I'll buy Lian-Li fans for my next bld!
Got 15 Infinitys in my 7000D. Just love the Lian Li fans.
i love how lian li basically corrected you twice in this video while you were unpackaging lol! the cables aren't long enough....oh but the inline switch when connected gives you a nice long combined cable. but that's not gonna help when you have a single fan somewhere such as an exhaust fan....oh but this little extension works if you have fans mounted and need to drop one down as its own little exhaust fan or something. all problems solved.
I forgot how good your content is.
this is awesome. i was actually just asking about non-rgb uni fans on the Lian Li subreddit a few months ago.
Nice for people who want to have the option to choose with or without rgb. They look awesome.
when "think different" actually means think DIFFERENT, not copy/steal whatever's popular. damn these are some cool fans, no pun intended. love the setup, and the lighting options. it's sure gonna hurt my wallet though, when i finally decide to make a new pc xD
Still think the Uni SL fans are the best looking of the bunch can't wait to upgrade to the 2.0 version
i bought one yesterday from what i saw it is one of the best airflow fans that looks good
I really can't wait to see what corsair is coming up with for fan cable managing. The teasers are killing me lol.
Probably something exactly like the Lian-Li or another USB2 based fan that will need proprietary software and adapters.
@@pedro4205 if it means less cables I'm all for it honestly. Yeah proprietary connectors and software suck, but I've always loved the Corsair fans, just hated the cable spaghetti that comes with them. Who knows maybe they'll convert over to the JST plug at least?
would love to see how these stack up to Noctua A12x25 and F12x25; those are pretty much my gold standard for high airflow and low noise
I'm most definitely getting these as my radiator fans.
I love the fact that Noctua came up with the ultimate fan blade design 5 years ago and now everyone is copying them.
So instead of clicking some slider with a mouse in settings, you can just open your case now, locate and adjust some mechanical fan control on cables at the back?
Awesome...
love lian li fans, i went through so many cheap budget fans, decided to splash out get lian li, never looked back, wasnt going to upgrade my al120s but dam that a lot of cooling power
"noise be dammed we need to cool it down now mode". I like that. You should trademark that. lol
Just today placed my order for a mix of Infinity and AL V2s to replace the Silent Wings 4 Pros that I'd bought for my new build. If I'd seen this video a couple hours ago I might have pre-ordered these instead.
For those curious, the Silent Wing 4 Pros are built incredibly well. However, they're noisy AF at top speed, and when you bump them down to a middle or low speeds, then they're not really anything special.
Also after having a build for the last 7 years with no RGB and no particular flair (Cooler Master Cosmos II) RGB, it turns out, is important to me.
I don't game much and use an AIO for CPU cooling, so general case air flow isn't super important. I have Noctua 12x25s on my 360 rad up top where nobody will see them anyway, so I can afford to put form over function for the more visible case fans.
3 more months watching Jay, and I can have a youtube channel. A lot of I don't knows, like usual.
Watching a video about fans, just because it's Jay.
Can we PLEASE have this trend of "RGB bought separately" last forever and apply to EVERY hardware?
Hey Jay! Another great vid, I was wondering if you could do a video about your filming setup! I’d love to see a little bit of the behind the scenes action with Phil and the cameras
Them some dope fans. Love the options.
Still a clear choice for ultra clean looking RGB fans...no one does it like Phanteks. They hide cables, screw holes, and link better than any I've seen so far.
Why one needs a separate Speed Controller thats to be tied in your cablemanagement when you plug it in a controllable header on your mobo?
I love my Lian Li Uni Infinity fans! Replaced my Corsair fans with them and haven't looked back. They look amazing in the case, lighting is clean, they perform very well and the minimalist cable management is truly priceless to me. As an example, I have a Lian Li O11D Evo with 10 Infinity fans. I basically replaced the 10 Corsair fans that had 20 individual cables (2 per fan) and the two controllers they were connected to, down to only 4 total cables (4 groups with one cable per group) and one controller. Cable management was a breeze. So I have nothing but good things to say about their fan solutions. These new fans are no exception. A performance fan that appeals to both the non-RGB crowd, as well as giving an option for those that want the performance with RGB. All while staying in the Lian Li eco system. Good stuff. Now, if only Lian Li would start making reverse airflow versions and/or fans you could manually swap the direction of the blades, that would be great. It would clean up seeing the backs of fans in the case.
Reversable fans would be KILLER in some builds
that was an interresting and very informative subject, thx Jay! i definitly learned something new, which is always awesome ^^
I wonder if Jay would ever consider reviewing the Noctua iPPC fans?
Now, uncharacteristically for Noctua, these aren't quiet fans.
But that's not the point, they were engineered for performance above all else.
They are basically your standard Noctua fan, with a 3 phase motor and it goes up to either 2000 or 3000 RPM.
As far as I am aware, they offer them in 120 and 140mm sizes, I have not seen other sizes but they may in fact exist if you visit Noctua's site instead of just browsing Amazon like I did.
But you DID hear me right, it's a Noctua quality fan, that is closer to a Delta fan (found in servers in data centers) as far as what it's designed for (and in noise level too).
Yes, they're meant for industrial applications, and they SAY that "consumers won't like them" probably.
But they're available on Amazon, so "just anyone" can buy them!
I'm honestly curious if swapping one or two of these into a Noctua dual-tower heat pipe CPU air cooler would make it perform any better.
Like, can it keep an overclocked 13900k cool? Maybe not, but we'll never know until we try!
Also, putting these on the radiators of what Jay would consider to be a "difficult" cooling application might be an interesting thing to see (maybe a system with a water cooled 4090 and a 13900k).
And then there's the elephant in the room, the 13900ks. It's gotten a reputation of being "impossible to cool", but I think that's mostly due to that Linus video.
I don't think that it's impossible to cool. I think that they either didn't have the time to or weren't allowed to go far enough to prove that you can in fact tame that beast of a heat load.
Plus, as ANYONE who watches LTT should know, LTT is more interested in making a meme than actually proving something is possible or not.
So they went and made a "Lol haha this chip is too hot" meme, and everyone ate it up as if it was factual data.
What do I mean by "they didn't go far enough"?
I'm glad you asked. They didn't de-lid the processor, and they also didn't try water cooling it with just a water block hooked up to a pump drawing water from a cooler full of water and ice (not even a radiator in that situation, relying only on the ice itself to keep the thing cold).
That's still phase change cooling, by the way, and that's also how they do the cooling for dragsters and land speed record vehicles.
Now, obviously, that's not "normal operation".
But that's also not a "normal" CPU either.
The 13900ks isn't a truck. It's a dragster.
So using a radiator is incorrect.
By "it's a dragster, not a truck", I mean that it's not meant for mundane workloads, it's meant to complete specific workloads in the shortest possible time.
Additionally, thermal considerations are only limits if you ALSO have financial or time constraints.
As with most things that don't blatantly defy the laws of physics, it's only impossible if you have a financial or time constraint on it.
Sans those constraints, literally anything that follows the laws of physics as we know them is possible.
A good engineer relishes a challenge that doesn't have a bottom line to adhere to, because it means the challenge is "how good can you make it" not "can you make it with only this much money".
You'll also note that I didn't take the "easy way out" and suggest LN2 cooling for the 13900ks. I'm not interested in "run for a minute or 10 and then post the benchmark". I'm interested in "tame the beast, in a way that is easily and inexpensively repeatable".
As in, you can take this to the "drag race track" on weekends, rather than having to take it to NASA to get it benchmarked.
A nice stealth but still using RGB build would be those fans (black) 3x on the front top and bottom with the rgb on the inside, so it just lights up some parts but creates nice shadows over the mobo
I have recently build a lian li mini build with 7 120mm uni v2 fans and 2 uni v2 140mm. They perform so well and the noise on full speed is noticeable but with a headset on i dont even hear them. They dont even hit full speed with everything i trow at it. For now ive played mostly gta 5,league of legends and last of us part 1 with all titels my temps dont go higher than 65c with fan speed of 1150rpm when temps are over 60c. (Ryzen 7 7700x).
Im really happy so far with the build and would definitely recommend the lian li fans and components in general
I'm going to be doing a build in a lian li o11 xl in the fall, I'll probably be using these fans.
Just a note, the added noise from the rad is louder cuz it's empty and acting like a resonance chamber amplifying the sound. Test it full
I love the idea of having a choice - RGB or no RGB in quality fans.
However, I think their RGB add-on kit should include lighting for both sides of the fan. The one sided approach makes the fan look unbalanced.
Can I control the light colors without the hub? I also have Armory Crate as well as AORUS.
For me that was a deal breaker with the earlier models.
MicroCenter had these selling used for $10 per fan and it stopped me because of requirement for a hub.
Hey j try adding spacers between the fan and radiator like u showed when the fan is too close its less effective so the screws that go throu the fan into the radiator add a quarter inch spacers u will see it will make it work better and cooler!!
The fans are fantastic, have them on a 7000x and a push pull configuration for a arctic freezer 3.
I literally could not hear the fan noise when you were demonstrating it because of my own fans! I desperately need this lol
lol adjust your fan curve
but honestly i like hearing my fans full blast 24/7
i paid good money for those shits
i want them cranked
TURNING THE FAN....... BAAAHAHAHA GOOD ONE JAY!!! 😂😂😂
I`ve recently spent over £200 on 6 sl120 v2 fans to replace my v1`s and Im happy with them but these do look pretty good
Another Lian Li fan video. Now I'm the fan.
Lian Li for the win! 👏🏽
Jay completely missed telling that the blades are now made up of LCP (same as T30 and NF-A12x25). That's why the CFM and static pressure are so high. These also have high end bearings and come with 6 year warranty.
I went from Corsair QL Fans to UNI SL Fans. I still think QL’s look better, but hate the wires.
I will be swapping to the new Corsair QX Fans
I have 16 Total Fans:
Top: 6 120mm UNI fans with Radiator doing Push/Pull.
Side: 3 120mm UNI Fans & 3 Black Fans doing a Double Exhaust
Bottom: 3 140mm UNI Fans
Rear: 1 120mm UNI Fan
thanks for breaking these down for us.
They keep releasing solid fans!
I like that a person can set their own spd on the fans as I don't really care for auto mode. Auto normally doesn't kick in until things get hot and then ramps up way too high. I hate that up/down ramping. I think I'd opt for med just to be on the safe side under normal PC use and high when gaming. I usually wouldn't pay attention to extra noise then especially if I'm wearing a headset. This offers a smooth transition without the ramp and IMO, keeps your PC much cooler.
Corsair, Noctua and Bequiet need to step their fan game up now.
Sounds good 😁I was looking for some new fans too ! Cool stuff.
Had the strangest dream just now.. your channel had gotten hacked, be extra safe please and take care of yourselves.
My dream build includes fans like these. Thanks for the video! Like included!
They look awesome.
These look awesome. No RGB and good daisy chain possibilities? Sign me up!
i actually currently have a triplet of those int he bottom of my case, and considering i run a positive pressure case setup (mostly because i have a 360mm radiator in the top of the case) id have to say... i definitely think that those 3 fans alone are the best fans ive put in my case, i have 4 corsair HAF 120 elites in my case (one exhaust in the rear, 3 intake) and those cant shake a stick at the sheer performance difference, the p28s are in a different league entirely
I like em. Thinking on using them someday in the future. Untill then I'm happy with my cheap RGB Artic boys.
This honestly tempts me to remove the front panel of my case and get some grills instead since I am having clearance issues.
Awesome, I was looking to change my fans out
i have 2 rads, 480mm each, and i decided to put push pull fans on them, so 16 fans total, usually i dont run them very high rpms but when my system updates they go full tilt and it sounds like a WW2 airplane doing a dive haha.
I remember a few years ago having 6 scythe jumani fans in my pc case that were inti-outi for a total of nearly 340 cfm - it sounded like a frikin jet taking off but kept the pc really cool. also it was in an enclosure so very quiet.
a long necessary concept of quick connect. I do like the fans that are connected at the radius edge also more stable at higher rpm. It's actually used with some vehicle radiator manufacturers, even though a vehicles cooling system works with a vectoring push and pull method... In theory of certain setups, it may be beneficial pulling air when in the long run its easier to clean when a radiators fins are similar to a filter effect, and whether a fans existing bearing subtype. Thus dust, heat & oxidation in electronics is inevitable of its degradation.
Have you tried a "Toroidal propeller" shaped fan? Both MIT Lincoln Laboratory and Sharrow Marine came up with the design at the same time; its much more efficient and quieter than other designs, but as its new and was developed for boats and drones, I bet no-one has used it on a PC case fan yet, so maybe suggest it to fan manufacturers? Quieter, more powerful and more efficient for the same amount of energy because vortices generated by the fan are spread across the whole shape instead of just the tips of the fan.
jumping in here for a maybe silly request. could you make a water cooling reference playlist? "1 all about fittings,2 how to bend PVC, 3 hard tubing type, 4 how to flush," something like that ? I'm building for the first time in 4 years , and I'm scouring through your videos to find about fittings, quick disconnect, how to flush , currently I'm stuck on taking apart the EK-XRES 140 D5 pump for cleaning. I still don't actually know if it's disassembleable.
its about time a company made an innovation in fan design... first they revolutionized the computer case with the "lian li pc-011 dynamic evo", then they revolutionized computer fans with a streamlined daisy chain feature, now they are revolutionizing the computer case fans again! obviously a thicker fan is nothing new but these stats are unparalleled! 92 cfm, 4.7 static pressure, all with a 32 dba? no fucking way. that beats my "corsair red led ml 120 mag lev fans" in every category... i think they have like a 75 cfm, 4.2 static pressure, and a dba of like 36. they took that fan and made it better in every way. they did not even need the full 30mm thickness! super impressive to say the least! i do not think another company will be able to beat these stats for a hot minute! Lian Li is a true gem of a computer part company! they are truly not just accepting the bare minimum and they literally have the most qualified and competent engineers in the computer part industry! i want them to get into the CPU AIR COOLER MARKET! i bet they can cook up another amazing product that changes everything! if there was one company that i believe could innovate the CPU AIR COOLER MARKET its LIAN LI! im starting to think that they are the only company that can do it... i bet LIAN LI could be the first computer company to make a break through in CPU air coolers since noctua! even though they will probably never enter that space... one can only hope and dream.
These kind of inline or even hub-based LNA are just unnecessary ewaste on a PWM fan plugged into a PWM header. Since all 3 settings have the same minimum, you can get the same results (yes, with different granularity) without any of this complication just setting different fan curve in bios or software… how many ppl would prefer to open their case to switch/ change this? 🤔
That part is a gimmick, but otherwise these look great and love the optional rgb 👍
I agree. For a watercooled rig with a low fin density and a lot of cooling capacity it would probably be ok to leave them at low and never touch the controller again.
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks armory crate and aura sync are garbage. I have the same issue trying to use it. Thank goodness iCue can control most of it and I don't have to use it any longer. Asus should just put an iCue header on their boards and take armory crate behind the wood shed. Additionally, if corsair would clean up the rat's nest of control wires we'd be golden. I see the teaser ad spots. I hope that means it is happening soon or I would switch to Lian Li fans right now.
"the cleanest fans you can install, at least as of today" Jay doesnt want to upset Corsairs upcoming new fan announcement.
It's like the old Antec Tricool Case Fans but much much better
I have the original UNI fans and I'm mostly very happy with them. I had to buy some of those adapters so that I could just plug them into my motherboard. I have 13 of them (long story) and only one of them is not working in optimal condition which I appreciate. I'd have preferred 13 for 13 but that's not the worst success rate.
Is this a sponsored review ? It would be nice to see how they compare against other fans in real scenarios . Kudos for Noctua for focusing on what really matters (noise and efficiency) the idea of stacking fans reducing needed cables is really great though. I wish they come up with universal fan headers interface that support rgb signal as well. That will reduce the amount of cables and get rid of RGB headers.
i think the wind wil be better if there is a small duct between the radiator and the fans
These are so freakin' cool. Am happy with my T30s from Phanteks tho. My build was never intended to be particularly pretty
If only they had rgb like the infinity fan line..hands down Lian li has changed fans and rgb lighting
I love Lian li fans and cases