AHS12 Nora Gedgaudas-The 'Holy Grail' of Primal Health: Benefits of a Fat-Based Caloric Intake
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- Nora Gedgaudas, C.N.S., C.N.T. presenting at the 2nd annual Ancestral Health Symposium 2012 (AHS12).
Nora Gedgaudas - The 'Holy Grail' of Primal Health: Benefits of a Fat-Based Caloric Intake for Body and Brain
Dietary fat has been the subject of considerable derision, misinformation and disinformation through medical authorities, public policy campaigns, conventional nutritionists and the mainstream media for most of the last century. Conversely, dietary carbohydrates have been lauded as foundational to human dietary needs.
Human physiological makeup and the history of our ancestral diet, however, has not been consistent with these claims. Dietary fat is demonstrably central to our most basic energy, metabolic and physiologic needs and by restricting its intake we foster a much less healthy and unnatural dependence upon carbohydrates, to the considerable detriment of societal physical and mental health.
Bio:
Nora Gedgaudas, C.N.S., C.N.T. is the author of the international best selling book, "Primal Body, Primal Mind: Beyond the Paleo Diet for Total Health and a Longer Life". She is an international speaker on the subject of paleolithic diets and operates a successful private practice in Portland, OR offering neurofeedback and nutritional therapy/consultation services.
Look at that hair !! .... I gotta make some ketones ....
Great talk!
Have been on a Keto Diet for the past 4 Months, eating a maximum of 20g Carbs a day. Have lost 24 kgs (53pounds) :) never felt better!
I'm not talking starchy diets,.. I'm talking about balanced diets, variable per person, variable over the course of ones life. Happens to typically include starchy foods. Fire and cooking have been central to human evolution. Predigested foods as you like, as your body prudently indicates is good. You are showing your lack of awareness and experience with fundamentals of prudent dietary. Be prudently aware and your experience and knowledge will further develop.
I love this simple and effective discussion. Nora is a fantastic writer and presenter of this most important dietary change that we must not ignore any longer.
How does one know if she isn't being paid to do this - and all the studies she refers to,have been paid by the food industries?
Love Nora and agree 100% on the benefits of ketones. Only two issues. One is the misconception that eating carbs will stop fat burning for days. IF YOU ARE NORMAL (i.e. not diabetic or have high lingering insulin) as soon as carbs are burned, insulin drops, and you will immediately switch to burning fat and using ketones. This is the essence of survival mode. Your body will never start breaking down muscle for energy except in metabolic disease or when fat reserves are exhausted. And as she correctly mentioned, glycogen is reserved for fight or flight, so that wouldn't be used either.
Second is that ketogenic diets are healing diets. Fasting has been used throughout history to heal disease. There is no question of its benefits to virtually every aspect of health, most notably for weight loss. However, it is hard for me to conceive that this is a diet that our prehistoric ancestors would have eaten the way it is proscribed. Food is scarce, you've hunted an animal, and now, after not eating for several days, you're going to eat only 3oz of protein? And where is that salad or collards coming from? I walk through the woods all the time and never see wild tomatoes, lettuce, broccoli, etc. And as far as seeds and nuts go, do you know how much effort and time it takes to get extract such a small amount of nutrition from the shells? It's just crazy.
After a hunt, you'd have gorged yourself on organs, viscera, fat and maybe some muscle. Yes, your insulin rose, you got tired, and had a nice long sleep. Then you went back into ketosis for several days until the next hunt.
3 oz of protein is like nothing. I know it's necessary so as not to spike insulin. But I feel like I'm on a Weight Watchers diet. So of course, I load up on greens and fat to fill up. But I'm sick of eating rabbit food. Once I drop all my weight, I'm going back to the hunt and fast method. (And I happen to love organ meats). I think that's how we likely lived for all those years.
+MrTrashcan1
Since you wrote such a long and well written comment, I'm inspired to respond. A couple of points. By "normal" I think you meant "metabolically healthy" and that implies "metabolic flexibility."
To my mind, there are actually 3 states of metabolism: 1. glucose adapted (what most people on the modern, industrial diet are). 2. Fat adapted (what most humans should be, but aren't. Predominantly fat burners, able to burn glucose if exposed to it). 3. Keto adapted. (Burning ketones predominantly. In this state, the body must be, by definition, insulin resistant so that the small amount of serum glucose can be preserved for the tissues that really need it {that's how I understand it}).
I'm definitely fat adapted. Most of my energy comes from fat. I guess I was always a slow oxidizer and never eaten much industrialized food. I did do low fat for more than 25 years but luckily my lean body seemed to tolerate it. Now that I've upped the fat, I feel awesome. Intermittent fasting is fun. I feel great when I don't eat. In fact, the problem for me is getting too thin. I did have one scare recently where I'd probably not had enough sleep (very busy with work) and hadn't eaten or worked out for a week. I did an 8 mile run and felt awesome (because I was fresh from no workout for a week). After the run, my urine was dark brown (just the one time). Yep, rhabdomyolysis. I've never had it before, and apparently protein is a good fuel, but it's bad for the kidneys. That definitely got my attention. I pushed it a little too far, apparently.
To your point about "rabbit food." Yes, I think our bodies are likely much more suited (adapted_ to feast and famine type of refueling. The modern idea of three or four little meals per day to keep blood glucose steady is food industry and medical establishment nonsense. We are suppose to eat big meals and go a long time to the next one. It is much easier to do this when "fat adapted."
MrTrashcan1 you are not listening!
We are ALL in a "pre-diabetic" stage. Look up Dr. Ron Rosedale's work. Nobody is normal anymore.
BionicStarChild , thank you. I looked up Dr. Ron Rosedale and read about his diet. I will need to look further into his position on leptin. However, he does a great job explaining why omnivorous LCHF eating works.
...but we've clearly found that dietary unhealthy if strictly adhered to,... our bodies have made abundantly clear the necessity for animal products and starch products for our best health,... variable per person. Let your body prudently direct, and be aware of your body's indicators as to what it needs or is not adequately getting or is imbalanced,... and, it's response indicators as to whether an item consumed is beneficial or not so beneficial,... and depending on quantity consumed.
GoinVert , there are nutritional deficiency diseases caused by not eating protein and healthy fats. But, there are no nutritional deficiency diseases from not eating carbohydrates. So, humans can easily live without carbohydrates. If a person wants to eat carbohydrates, that is the person's own personal choice.
Brilliant talk, the whole brain fuel connection is fascinating, and so cogently and simply presented,
Ive just gone to Amazon to order the book! thank you so much for posting this S.A.F..
Nora's book is definitely a great read!
Nice talk! I'll buy her book. I've been on a ketogenic diet for a few weeks. It feels awesome, I'm so focused! I was curious on the impact on my Crohn's disease since it's been shown to decrease TNF and other inflammation markers. I was already on a low carb SCD diet to basically starves bad guts bacterias, so it was easy to go keto. It's hard to tell the impact on my guts for now since SCD was already working great.
I wanted to make sure I understood the meaning behind what you just said. Are you saying that because she tans and dyes her hair, she is not eating paleolithic foods? That because of her physical appearance, what she is saying should be disregarded?
wow, one of the best nutrition talks I've seen. Very informative, very correct. Love me some raw milk, coconut oil and avocados!
how thou hast changedest
No,I am not.Civilization , at least what we can call civilization , thrived with the advent of agriculture. Those remaining group of people who kept on living on hunting and gathering foods, are doing the same thing all the time, throughout the centuries, not daring to face the unknown. Now, human being wasn´t designed to stop its own evolution, like other animals - that´s what distinguishes human species. Human beings must write their own History. no matter how awful it sometimes may seem.
This is holy information, Thank you Nora!
How does one know if she isn't being paid to do this - and all the studies she refers to,have been paid by the food industries?
Just to add, after comment to concerned fraud call, is that Nora seems like a lovely caring lady, especially once off the podium and answering questions. I am downloading her book and look forwards to a very enlightened reading experience. Shall also check her out on the web. Unfortunately, I think I spied rings on the fourth proximal digit of her right hand. Drats!
How does one know if she isn't being paid to do this - and all the studies she refers to,have been paid by the food industries?
How does one know if she isn't being paid to do this - and all the studies she refers to,have been paid by the food industries?
Nora knows.
Nora you are now on my favorites list along with Dr. Rhonda Patrick ... and Yes, easy transition and you are less hungry ... 80-10-10 is best and there are tools to track now ...
70 Going On 100
If someone in school was like yo want use your brain 40% better I think I would have at least tried this diet asap lol
She shut down that last question very well. No real answer was given even though a lot of suggest that the Ketogenic diet reduces insulin sensitivity like "Insulin sensitivity and glucose tolerance are altered by maintenance on a ketogenic diet."
"Maintenance on Ketogenic Diet resulted in decreased sensitivity to peripheral insulin and impaired glucose tolerance"
Siegfried Furtwängler Knappertsbusch , read the book "The Obesity Code" by Dr. Jason Fung, MD. Books often explain things in more depth than can be done in a presentation. A speaker is given a limited time to present and is not allowed to run over that time.
what about bodybuilding on a keto diet ?
When there is enough glucose to start the Krebs Cycle, fatty acids yield 146 ATP. But without glucose, the Krebs Cycle is broken and the resulting ketone bodies produce only 22 ATP. That's why medical professionals have the saying "fat burns in a carbohydrate flame," and also why you'll see definitions of ketosis like this:
"An accumulation of excessive amounts of ketone bodies in body tissues and fluids, occurring when fatty acids are incompletely metabolized."
Oups sorry, ignore the last comment, I thought it was regarding another thing I said before. Let me check for that other study
great informations deepest gratitude. more fat to the brain
I've got plenty of time too, and I've been experiencing the dietary to health relation realm in depth by real genuine active experience since 1984, when I was 15 years of age,,... it's very clear to me what works and what doesn't. Living is dynamic, living optimally is very dynamic.
So all successful racing cyclists eat a near vegan starch based diet ? I guess you've never met a successful racing cyclist.
The animal fats that are commonly available to most people are quite inflammatory.
Jay M , the statement that animal fats are inflammatory has scientifically been proven untrue. Scientists have a lot more tools now than they did in 1960.
Omega 6 fats (vegetable oil, corn oil, etc) are inflammatory. Omega 3 fats (fish, grass-fed animals) are anti-inflammatory.
Eating animal products does not have to be cruel to animals. Grass-fed means that the animal got to enjoy life eating grass and living in a pasture. A bullet to the brain is all it takes to cause instant death. I was raised on a farm.
Stephen Phinney's studies show impaired anaerobic capacity on a ketogenic diet, and he said this would discourage their use at the competitive level.
MacGamut16 , South African scientist and professor Dr Tim Noakes, who recently retired from the University of Cape Town, wrote the running classic "The Lore of Running".
For decades, Dr. Noakes trusted that the USA government, scientists, and health organizations had done valid scientific research when they created the food pyramid and advocated HCLF. (This was before the internet. So, people had a harder time communicating and, thus, had a harder time getting out the word when a study had errors.)
Dr. Noakes advised many top athletes to eat HCLF and, for competition, to carb load.
After sufficient decades and looking into the scientific research, Dr. Noakes realized that HCLF is wrong. Dr. Noakes and some of those top athletes acquired diabetes type 2 from all that HCLF and carb loading.
Now, Dr. Noakes advises top athletes to eat keto LCHF. Some of those top athletes say that they are performing better now on keto LCHF than they ever did on carb loading and HCLF. A keto LCHF athlete doesn't bonk because the athlete's body easily transfers over to using body fat for fuel.
Dr. Noakes says that a few athletes find a tiny carb load just before the race makes them perform better. However, most top athletes perform better without that tiny carb load.
Funny that the state we "evolved" to be in would require years of adaptation. Maybe, just maybe, glycolysis is the natural state of the human body?
MacGamut16 , no, from our birth, our parents and we just trained our bodies to run in the rut of HCLF. Now, we must retrain our bodies to run on HCLF. I found it very easy to switch over by doing a 2 1/2-day fast between stopping HCLF and starting LCHF.
"HOW YOU DOING" reminds me of joe. cool talk nora
A giant step backwards? Are you mad?
Awesome talk Nora!
More like Nora Ged-GODDESS. She is wonderful, I need to thank her in person one day!
I like the Peter Frampton hair cut. Does she drive a Chevy van with shag carpet blasting Aerosmith? Groovy, man.
Why do all the cyclists who require energy eat potatoes, pasta and rice?
Peterz29Boy , Chris Froome says that he won the Tour de France three times because he changed to eating low carb:
www.diabetes.co.uk/blog/2016/07/low-carb-diet-propelled-chris-froome-three-tour-de-france-titles/
South African scientist and professor Dr. Tim Noakes, who recently retired from the University of Cape Town, used to advise top athletes to eat HCLF and carb load. After he looked back through the scientific research, he realized that HCLF was based on bad science. Read the book "The Big Fat Surprise" by investigative journalist Nina Teicholz.
Now, Dr. Noakes advises top athletes to eat LCHF. Those athletes say that they are performing better on LCHF than they ever did on HCLF.
You're uninformed, not to mention, rude. We worked out together. She's muscle.
I wish i could introduce her to Dr Robert Morse ND. He would change her mind after a few at his healing clinic. I'm kind of tired of listening to scientists rattle off a bunch of information and theories trying to prove a point about food and health. I'm out to see results.
menderfire9 , read the book "The Big Fat Surprise" by investigative journalist Nina Teicholz.
He cant even heal himself. He's a mess. No one with a gut that big could be in good health.
I did Dr. Morse diet for 1 year. I did cleanse but ended up too washed out with no substance behind me. It is not healthy long term. Very unstable because of how rapidly everything goes through you. Now I'm rebuilding with saturated fat and protein. No more instability, nerves are steady, I'm sleeping for the first time in years. No more extremes for me. Dr. Morse never shows scientific proof like the keto teachers do. His is a great cleanse, that's it. The keto quickly heals auto immune, that alone is telling.
Show the science.
Her feathered hairstyle is from the stone age
This is wonderful. Very informative and very witty. Thank you so much. I had to decrease my thyroxine dosage (having hashimoto) after starting ketogenic diet. Such a wonderful success.
BlueBox ..witty? She cant retain information at all obviously, like adjonnis could, and MOST health gurus..she needs to read the whole time😂
Are these Paleo Diet´s proponents kidding ?Paleo Diet would be a great step backwards, Seriously.
All succesful racing cyclists eat massive amounts of starches. Rice, potatoes and pasta are the main cooked foods. During the race they rely on simple sugars. They do not go around on their bikes eating beef jerky and pemmican. I have met racing cyclists who have told me this. Also any coverage of races on tv has mentioned recovery meals of potatoes or pasta.
A succesful racing cyclist needs to be slim and have low body fat to be an efficient climber. He won't have the body fat available to be in ketosis for several days on end. A near vegan starch based diet is essential for this endeavor.
Peterz29Boy , South African scientist and professor Dr. Tim Noakes, who recently retired from the University of Cape Town, has been advising top athletes for decades. He advises them to eat keto LCHF. The athletes report back to him that they are performing better on keto LCHF than they ever did on HCLF. On HCLF, they would bonk when ran out of carbs.
Keto LCHF athletes' bodies easily switch over to using body fat. As the race continues, more of the athletes' fat gets burned. So, the athlete loses weight during the race. Think of fat as being an internal nutrition bar or jell pack that an athlete doesn't have to carry along and unwrap during competition.
Peterz29Boy , Chris Froome says that he won the Tour de France three times because he switched to low carb. He gives some details about his eating in this article:
www.diabetes.co.uk/blog/2016/07/low-carb-diet-propelled-chris-froome-three-tour-de-france-titles/
Please explain the success ultramarathon runners are having on ketogenic diets. There was a whole documentary on it.
She's bloated.
What about acidosis? I am reading a conventional Exercise Nutrition textbook for one of my classes and it talks about the dangers of acidosis, coma, and death. Is this a concern or is this based on bad science? Is there any scientific evidence on Acidosis and if it is harmful, how, and when? That would be fantastic!
ketoacidosis is only a danger for diabetics type 1 if they product no insulin or are fighting a big infection.
Someone otherwise healthy does not have to fear this whatsoever.
TOTAL RUBBISH!!!!!!!