Bill Schindler, PhD presentation: Ancestral Diets, Food Processing and the Domesticated Ape
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Bill Schindler, PhD, eatlikeahuman.com/, is an internationally know modern anthropologist specializing in primitive technology, experimental archaeology and also a chef. He received his masters and PhD degrees from Temple University in Philadelphia. Bill is the author of "Eat Like a Human". He founded and directs the Eastern Shore Food Lab with a mission to preserve and revive ancestral dietary approaches to create a nourishing, ethical, and sustainable food system. Along with his wife they operate the Modern Stone Age Kitchen in Maryland. He was the focus of Wired magazine’s TH-cam series, "Basic Instincts and Food Science" and he co-starred in the National Geographic Channel series "The Great Human Race."
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Great presentation!
There are political implications. The agricultural revolution was the beginning of storable food. That also meant the ability to lock up and control the distribution of food. In a hunter gatherer clan, if the season is bad, the chief starves alongside everyone else. After the agricultural revolution, powerful people (who control food) thrive while others starve.
My chickens will eat most things. But if I throw bread in their yard they peck at it and then ignore it. They know it does not feed them.
Loooove Dr Bill Schindler!! Took his sourdough master class and he personally emailed me when I had questions. He's so awesome.
After binge watching Jack Kruse, I have a new perspective on the intersection of diet, nutrition, and health. I'm still 90% carnivore, but I now understand the importance of light and mitochondrial function, and have incorporated habits (morning walks, blue-block glasses after sunset, eating seasonally and locally) for optimal health.
Excellent content and delivery. This lecture deserves many more views; I will keep my fingers crossed! 🙏
28:00 Ironically, this speaker points out the pitfalls of getting nutrition information from social media at a conference that gives a platform to the likes of Layne Norton and Thomas DeLauer. Both are notorious for disseminating misinformation for the purpose of marketing their products.
I understand that but perhaps the message is that we are responsible for studying and deciding who's message we believe. For me anybody who has something to sell is off my list. These people presenting at these conferences are, in most cases, more in tune to the truth than big food companies, imo. But we have to use our brain and our spidey senses as to what is authentic. We have to save ourselves as the government and big business do not have our best interests in mind.
“Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” Probably from The Art of War, not sure, or Machiavelli. And as Dr Shawn Baker repeats: the truth is revealed through exposure to light and air, or some such I’m paraphrasing.
Let’s not fall victim to the age old effective divide and conquer strategy of censorship. Let all views be subject to a critically thinking audience. Also a good way to teach critical thinking skills bu presenting arguments.
I watched the Layne Norton presentation. He did a good job of describing what a logical fallacy is. Otherwise, he didn’t say much for or against “proper diet for humans.” I’d say he played it safe and gave a “debate skills” presentation, which is valuable and offered him no avenue for rebuke. That’s an intelligent approach. And it demonstrates my main point.
Wow! Powerful speaker!
Enlightening, entertaining talk. Makes perfect sense, and actually fills in many of the gaps which folks who speak on 'how we ate in the past vs now' fail to highlight. Dots have been connected!
Amazing and informative talk. Makes so much sense. Loved it in its entirety!
I've always had trouble with the premise that humans run prey animals to death. Maybe, but it seems to ignore one simple fact. Herd animals won't run away from their herd for miles and miles; they will always circle back to the herd even if a group of humans managed to separate one or two and chase them. I live in the western US, within 100 miles of two buffalo jump sites. Those sites are evidence that hunters exploited this herd behavior, running away from predators while staying with their herd, even as the smarter humans haze them over a cliff to their deaths. (P.S. Chyme is a Greek word, pronounced "kyme" not "chime").
Thx for doing this. filming it and sharing it with us. 👍👍👍👍👍
Great talk! Thank you so much!
Amazing talk! Thank you!
Great lecture! Thanks!
17:30 Nice story, but angel wing (a metabolic disorder) in waterfowl is due to excess growth in juveniles, due to overfeeding a high energy /protein diet, not specific to macronutrient. The most common cause of angel wing in domesticated ducks & geese is due to too high protein diet at that high growth stage of their life. Young hatchlings are given high protein diets, but this should be cut back at 2 weeks (-2%), & dropped again at 6 weeks (-2%) (kcal - energy totals remains the same/ weight throughout growth period).
Interestingly, a study in farmed muscovy ducks found that although the use of probiotics reduced the impact of parasitic infection, it increased the risk of metabolic syndromes (Ref below).
Ref
"Evaluation of Metabolic Syndromes and Parasitic Infection in Muscovy Ducks under Different Management Conditions"
Interesting, and makes more sense than what most of the extreme diet gurus say about ancestral food, but, while understanding that he is not a physiologist, still doesn't answer the questions that most of us need: 1-ideal diet, does it exist; 2-what definitely to avoid; 3-considering that it is unrealistic for us to resume a hunter-gatherer life, how to fix the damage we have already done to ourselves, and whether, which, and how quickly, medical problems may be reversed. For instance, for all their vastly differing recommendation about what to eat (ONLY plants because meat is poison, or ONLY fatty meat, because plants are poison), both the vegan and carnivore gurus agree on these things; avoid sugar, especially fructose (though they extend the taboo to all carbohydrates), and avoid processed food (rife with all the chemical additives). Is that the answer? Just that? Otherwise eat anything you want?
An interesting comment/quote "we have a food system that seldom considers health and a health system that seldom considers food".
Ideal diet is cows.
While I enjoy triggering vegans…
I landed where you suggested.
No refined sugars, no seed oils, no refined grains.Less than 100g carbs daily
Everything else: YMMV
Meat is poison makes no sense,we are made of meat!
well yes it is? we are cucinivore = omnivores that cook food that they gathered and hunted. by definition of our environment it is of low carb content some seasons of the year and nutrient dense with periods where we even have no food at all (fasting). also incorporate a very active life style needed for this you have your answer. life is pretty much like what animals do: eat, survive, reproduce. shallow and easy like that.
Excellent. Serious food for thought.
Excellent presentation.
Thank you for this information, Im sharing it!
Interesting stuff.
Tbh I borrowed his book from my local library about a year ago but it seemed monumental and against what I've heard from the carnivore community. After listening to this presentation I just placed the book on hold again to reread and reconsider. Obv I can't raise and slaughter my own animals in the city (the say I can't even have chickens) but I want to do what I can that is best for my health.
Cities don't have regulations against meat rabbits though. Those aren't "farm animals", they're "pets".
We do have better body temperatire regulation maybe even before developing big brains. It allowed us to hunt during the day and run animals to the ground due to exhaustion. And we're also scavengers. We ate scraps of meat left by carnivores. Probably there were times we chase them away from their food.
Awesome thank you
Wonder presentation!
Dr. Ken Berry MD thinks along this way. 😊
Wild Bill!
🥩💪🤙
Very good.👍❤️
The word "design" keeps getting in the way, huh?
We were not designed. We evolved.
Evolution does design.
Great, until he goes psycho on adults consuming dairy. Some of us are better adapted to consuming dairy as adults, some of us aren't. Just like some of us can eat a ton of spinach and not get kidney stones, while others just look at spinach and stone up. I wish presenters like this guy would pull back from these tempting "cliff edges" and not feel like they have to go over them.
The truth about dairy, from what I can tell, is that we've been consuming it for 3000 to 7000 years or so - but not all of us - not all human groups did. Some have been genetically adapting to digest dairy better as adults, and some haven't. We need to stop lumping all humans into one grouping on these topics.
You've missed the point that modern dairy is genetically modified and not like our raw ancestral dairy. Raw is way better for most people, but pasteurised modern dairy is highly inflammatory for almost everyone. Then throw in the fact that milk is designed to be addictive (it lights up the same parts of the brain as cocaine) and fattening, after all, it's designed to turn a calf into 1000kg cow...
I heard it differently. I believe this was under the category of what we were designed to eat. Answer was only mothers milk for a limited time. Pretty sure his answer would be that adults can eat dairy if it is prepared correctly.
@@JD-rc6lq but no consideration for genetic diversity, meaning some of us have genes that let us consume a wider variety of dairy. If I wasn't clear, that was more what I meant. Yes, he did go on about milk fermented into some sort of alcohol. I fast forwarded there, heheh.
Up to 12,000 years for some populations, which evolutionarily speaking would be almost nothing. However, being mammals ourselves, we didn't have much evolution to do there. We already are perfectly adapted to consume milk, the only thing we needed to do was retain the ability to digest it as well as adults as we did as children. And maybe a tiny bit of adaptation to be able to digest other species' milk properly, though again that takes almost no adaptation at all.
And think of the advantage. The part of the population who could digest milk well enough and started herding for it suddenly had access to something absurdly amazing: magical machines that turn useless grass into one of the most nutritious substances in existence. The part of the population who couldn't digest milk... didn't. The survival rate of milk-drinkers would have been way higher. This kind of high pressure drives very fast evolution, and like I said before, we didn't need to evolve much at all.
So while milk causes health problems to many (if not most) people in the world, it's a great food for others. I don't understand people who demonize it (I understand why some remove it from the diet in a clinical setting, it's a big potential culprit), though to be fair I don't think that's what he did here. He was mostly talking about foods that we were "perfectly matched to" (raw dairy from our mothers), and what foods were "meant" for something and that this was an irrelevant way to think about it anyway. Unless I missed it, I don't think he ever said that humans shouldn't drink milk. I did notice, however, that he put up an image of a milk section when talking about food consumers, which he views as a negative thing, so maybe you could infer something from that.
I ferment my diary mainly Kefir
@34:14 I gasped when he said eggs are not meant for human consumption. C'mon man! What about meat and potatoes? It's what me, my father & mother, my grandfather, and great grandfather and hundreds of my family relatives were traditionally raised on. McDonalds and BK? not so much.
Unless you come from around Peru, the trail of potatoes in your ancestors' diet mostly stops about 500 years ago. Nobody in Europe had ever seen a potatoe 500 years ago. It's a very recent "tradition".
@@wocket42 500 years doesn't seem like it's a very long time considering human evolution. I'll still take a baked potato over a big mac anyday.
@@peterboytRaKs I'd rather take the Big Mac and just eat the meat :-)
@@wocket42 @wocket42 When McDonalds says 'all-beef-patties', do you believe them? Do you know how they manufacture those patties? Who went to the bathroom before they came into the processing facility? Did they wash their hands? Are they wearing yesterday's paper white suits, fresh gloves, etc.etc..? Are McDonalds workplaces as free of toxins and any other meat/veg byproducts, airborne bacterias that can contaminate your order?
My point? People didn't question and examine the materials they were putting into their mouths when McDonalds or any other fast food chains first opened. But today, they are except for the diehard obese and ignorant who don't or can't read labels and still believe giant fast food corporations would ever fool you into thinking that their product is safe and healthy to eat day after day, year after year.
I'll take the potato thank you.
Potatos are no good. They're in the nightshade family so they have lectins, glycoalkaloids and solanine - natural plant defense toxins that are damaging to us.
On top of that they're just pure carbs; too much of that and you'll develop type 2 diabetes
just like the human brain also our microbiome is very adapted to the environment.
Just an opinion: the intro is great but the music sucks;)
Yes, the music is demeaning tripe.
If you want to live off land then forage in tropical forests you can forage as much as You want in parched lands unless you are specialised to live there.
Psychedelic Mushrooms are the reason for the extra brain growth in my opinion.
That’s just a theory promulgated by Terrence McKenna. I’m a fan but he was only looking at it through his one favorite chosen lens. G
He did not consider other factors. There is now evidence of his participation in government psychological operations that MAY discredit his ideas. Keeping all options on the table.
No way... psychedelics just make stoned hippies...
@@CarnivoreHipposinBikinis it’s an interesting hypothesis promulgated by Terrence McKenna. Check into it and you may see the logic behind it. It’s only a stoner hippie drug AFTER the CIA/FBI/security state got involved with using it to disable the large young generation boom that was organizing against the imperialist wars. Don’t buy into that ceded narrative, it’s a Cointelpro opp.
So, 40 mins in, what you are saying is that we need processed food?
Weston Price observed that humans appeared to be able to thrive on an incredibly wide range of diets, from blood and honey, to blubber, to grains and dairy. So your point that processing is a key is consistent.
Strictly speaking we don't, like he said we could get nutrition from a raw block of meat. But a bit of processing is preferable.
Most animals do it internally (like the examples given of ruminants processing grass and birds processing grain), but we don't physically have the ability to do that, so we have to do it using technology. Even if it's just a sharp rock to cut the meat and fire to cook it lightly.
To eat foods that our bodies are unsuited to, processing is required. I always chuckle when they say "whole grains".
@@Billy97ify Recommend that they eat "whole kidney beans", totally unprocessed.
Or don't, because that's kind of... murder-y. But I think the point is clear enough.
Man has evolved to eat Twinkies!
Re connection does not mean low carb diet. Period. And we need to eat to live...maybe time to invent a way to live without eating
you dont know what you dont know, it is NOT b/c you ate too much after thanksgiving dinner that makes you want to take a nap. it is malnourishment of the microscopic type. like i said, you dont know what you dont know, and sites like these don't have the capability to understand this important information. besides that, great presentation.
So.. because you just ate a ton of food you're more malnourished than before you ate anything? That's far fetched. Usually the explanation is that the body diverts energy and blood flow to the gut to prioritize creating acid, bile, and other things for digestion, plus if it's carb heavy you get a blood sugar spike that can crash.
malnourishment can and does mean essential nutrients - minerals, amino acids, vitamins and fatty acids - this is science that has been hidden for nefarious reasons from the public - a lack of which is the cause of diabetes and a million other infirmities - they total 90 and have to be taken together or they do no work optimally - look for me when i get my podcast, thanks for the reply mika@@mikafoxx2717
Low carb conference = statins are good and eat your veggies.
He'd come across better if he had a bit more humility.
Any 12 year old boy understands that he can grab
a goat or sheep and suckle it and get nutrition from
it. We don't need processing. I wish he would talk
from a different perspective, that of "maybe this is
how it came about and maybe this is how it is." He
talks so stridently as if he is damn sure what he is
saying is the gods' truth.
All plants and animals created with the knowledge needed, but man listening to medium was disconnected from his higher voice, losing the destiny he is meant . There is a remedy when implemented, brings a greater goodness to all of creation. Look up, as you hold hands. 🕊
I'd like to understand where he gets his timeline. Is there a written record of 3 million years and 2 million years and 1 million years? He obviously does not believe in intelligent design. Didn't evolve to be this way. We were created to be this way.
Your statement gave another liar his or her wings.
Sorry but way too long of video. TH-cam needs to remove videos over about 15 minutes or so!
Sorry, but a lot of people have a longer attention span, and ignore the phone's notifications, so 42 mins video is not really a problem.
Tik tok has ruined you.
Yes, some ancient humans ate meat. However they had very short lifespans! “Nature” optimizes for reproduction and not lifespan. We can see that with salmon that die after they lay their eggs. The poor little salmon that wants to live a long life needs to do something different than his ancestors. If the little salmon that wants to live a long time decides to copy his ancestors, he will also have a short life. It is very stupid to cite anecdotes and theory as evidence. You need to cite actual randomized controlled studies that a particular diet produces a long life.
How do you know they had short lives?
You don't.