I've never played 40k or any of its relatives. There's no one near me that plays 40k or any of its relatives. My son and I are painting battletech so we can try to play that for the first time. But yet here I am trying to figure out how much time I have on my commute so I can start listening to your videos before I drive to work.
Shields Guys are probably the best operatives in the bunch, the shield rules (AV 3+, always first to attack, doubling parries) make those guys very survivable. You can use them to lock opponents in CC easily, if you give them cuffs, they can shut down any 7PV operative in the game in one fight. I really really think you should use 3-4 of them in the 11 count.
It made my morning that the subtitles thought "Drukhari" was "Drew Cary." Welcome to EoB where the content is made up and the army points don't matter.
Everyone is SLEEPING on the new Soul Shackle terrain. These destroyable walls add SO much more depth to ITD; after having played 2 Soul Shackle games, I couldn't imagine playing without them ever again.
I'm just super disappointed that it's all the same looking walls, missed an awesome opportunity to make slightly varied terrain that works together to make a space hulk amalgamation of different species ships
To be clear, From Darkness Death isn't at the start of the Turning Point. It's at the start of that operatives activation - so the opponent doesn't know who you're going to pick until you do, and it makes it way easier to get this effect. And its absolutely awesome and brutal and I love using it lol
Double check your interpretation of the glow sticks rule. I'm not very familiar with KillTeam but if it's like big 40k- Modifying a dice is NOT the same as re-rolling. Modifying is getting a +/-1, rerolling is called out separately in rules.
I think the power from pain or whatever it's called is better the way it is personally, as it allows counterplay. Being able to target the operative that has the token is good for both players, since the drukhari player can try and get tokens on the less important players in order to make their important units less of a target, and the other player can eliminate units with tokens to prevent extra shenanigans. I think that if they made it into a pool of tokens then it would really just be a "win more" mechanic, as there would be zero counterplay.
The reason why you wouln't take the dark lance is that you can only take 2/3 of the Dark Weapons, meaning you would have to sacrifice the pistol on your archsybarite, or the blaster on your gunner. That unwieldy makes it too much of a chore to use; when a blaster at 5/6 AP 2 is more than enough to delete something just as well as the Dark Lance.
When I got my box and rifled through the instruction I kinda groaned when I had seen that its another human faction that cannot build all of its specialists from one box without conversions. You have to decide between a dude that boosts the doggo or the medic. Fortunately you can field the dog without the leashmaster, if I understand the rules correctly. But yeah, that's another KT thing that goes on the list of "get another box to have more options"
I will say I thought the arbites were cool solely because I want to do a RCMP style paint job. When the kits release separately I'll probably pick them up then.
Hey :) Im really interessted into tryiong killteam and u seem to love what u do so i hope u can help me :D Im really not sure wich pack i should buy what do u think is more worth it? Into the Dark or Soulshackle? From what i see one has doors to open and the others have walls to explode... and from both packs i like the Humans more but the enemy side i dont like XD i mean the best for me would be the Humans from Soulshackle and the Green guys from into the dark but that is sadly not possible haha... can u help me with the choice? my local shop has from both just one haha.... and if i have later both packs can i combine the walls from both packs to make a bigger map?
Hey man, of those two get Into the dark, because it also contains rules, tokens and everything else you need to get started. Soulshackle is basically an expansion set for Into the Dark
Honestly, it sounds like the Drukhari got a solid new team, with fun new tactical ploys, and a specific type of play in mind. Arbites just seem busted for the sake of it. I have been on the fence about this box set and tbh, this just puts me off, I want to have fub, not make my opponent annoyed at my every (obvious, and game-braking) decision. I rather have a team with flaws and a fun theme than a team that just... wins ig.
The ploy with preventing your opponent from doing scouting action is toxic as fck. I thought they crossed "asshole play" line with Gellerpox, but this is even worse. As to shooting into combat, I always claimed that it should be an option with a caveat that BS is worsened by 1 and all misses are allocated as hits to a friendly operative.
Im frothing at the mouth for when they release them solo, I dont care about Dark Eldar or the Terrain at all, but the models look SO GOOD! and I want my DOGGO!
More op dlc. Gotta keep the nubs on the p2w treadmill. Don't worry the next dlc pack will be completely underwhelming but have two super popular factions with really cool new toys at a 10% price hike.
I think you are misinterpreting Contain Threat. Its actually very hard to score for you, because the opponent just has to leave 6 in of their deployment zone to deny you points...which is probably what most teams are going to want to do anyways to try and score objectives.
The rules look like a ton of fun, but Drukkhari models don't do it for me and I'm not willing to spend GW prices for models I don't like. Maybe its time to make a "stimmed up escher gang" as proxies...
The two tac ops called out as OP sounds like they're really bad? You can barely ever prevent the opponent from having someone more than 6" from their Deployment zone, and you probably can't keep the ops alive till end of game for Gather Evidence without surrendering the match
GW releasing OP rules for new-new models? What a shocker! Anyways glad to see some are still entertained by the same old GW shenanigans...my favorite being the squats where they publicly apologized for being too GW.
We gotta stop meeting like this
I love that the subtitles turn Drukhari into Drew Cary
I actually really enjoyed this deep conversation about the new teams. Thanks Jay
I've never played 40k or any of its relatives. There's no one near me that plays 40k or any of its relatives. My son and I are painting battletech so we can try to play that for the first time.
But yet here I am trying to figure out how much time I have on my commute so I can start listening to your videos before I drive to work.
I love the dead or alive tac op.
It's funny if you play against Legionaries where the map just ends full of corpses by the end
Really wanted to scoop this up, but I can't justify buying this AND Wrath of The Soulforge King boxset when it finally drops.
Shields Guys are probably the best operatives in the bunch, the shield rules (AV 3+, always first to attack, doubling parries) make those guys very survivable. You can use them to lock opponents in CC easily, if you give them cuffs, they can shut down any 7PV operative in the game in one fight.
I really really think you should use 3-4 of them in the 11 count.
It made my morning that the subtitles thought "Drukhari" was "Drew Cary."
Welcome to EoB where the content is made up and the army points don't matter.
Everyone is SLEEPING on the new Soul Shackle terrain. These destroyable walls add SO much more depth to ITD; after having played 2 Soul Shackle games, I couldn't imagine playing without them ever again.
I'm just super disappointed that it's all the same looking walls, missed an awesome opportunity to make slightly varied terrain that works together to make a space hulk amalgamation of different species ships
To be clear, From Darkness Death isn't at the start of the Turning Point. It's at the start of that operatives activation - so the opponent doesn't know who you're going to pick until you do, and it makes it way easier to get this effect. And its absolutely awesome and brutal and I love using it lol
Double check your interpretation of the glow sticks rule. I'm not very familiar with KillTeam but if it's like big 40k- Modifying a dice is NOT the same as re-rolling. Modifying is getting a +/-1, rerolling is called out separately in rules.
Thanks for all the kill team stuff jay, Nick
I think the power from pain or whatever it's called is better the way it is personally, as it allows counterplay. Being able to target the operative that has the token is good for both players, since the drukhari player can try and get tokens on the less important players in order to make their important units less of a target, and the other player can eliminate units with tokens to prevent extra shenanigans. I think that if they made it into a pool of tokens then it would really just be a "win more" mechanic, as there would be zero counterplay.
As only 2 customers per store managed to get one I doubt there will be enough out there to worry if they are op or not 🤣
You almost had me wanting this set, until I realized I cant build all the operatives without buying a whole mother box
“Not Bad but a little tricky to pull off” Arbites in a nutshell
People in thick armor with fat weapons, best with the Kazarkin armor and Gravipacks swap and you can play as Harakoni Warhawks with the Mighty Rules.
You got to have the dog though. What kind of person would leave it behind?
The reason why you wouln't take the dark lance is that you can only take 2/3 of the Dark Weapons, meaning you would have to sacrifice the pistol on your archsybarite, or the blaster on your gunner. That unwieldy makes it too much of a chore to use; when a blaster at 5/6 AP 2 is more than enough to delete something just as well as the Dark Lance.
When I got my box and rifled through the instruction I kinda groaned when I had seen that its another human faction that cannot build all of its specialists from one box without conversions. You have to decide between a dude that boosts the doggo or the medic. Fortunately you can field the dog without the leashmaster, if I understand the rules correctly. But yeah, that's another KT thing that goes on the list of "get another box to have more options"
I skipped this box, but your deep dive was still interesting even if I don't build either team.
I will say I thought the arbites were cool solely because I want to do a RCMP style paint job. When the kits release separately I'll probably pick them up then.
That would be really cool! I would love to see how they end up looking
I was thinking painting them up as THOT PATROL, but Mounties. That's not a bad idea..
How long do you think until they are released??
@@NB-568 Probably in a month or so
For the shotgun sniper, they are likely using slugs and not buckshot! Shotgun for hunting is very common with slugs for instance.
How dare you bring real world knowledge into our fantasy pew pew universe...I mean I already knew that, but GUNS! THOSE KILL PEOPLE! 👅
Thanks gents!! Soul shackle sounds pretty good!! Thanks gents fantastic as always!!!
Can you a video about orks and bild orks plz
Both teams sound interesting 👍👍
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Hey :) Im really interessted into tryiong killteam and u seem to love what u do so i hope u can help me :D Im really not sure wich pack i should buy what do u think is more worth it? Into the Dark or Soulshackle? From what i see one has doors to open and the others have walls to explode... and from both packs i like the Humans more but the enemy side i dont like XD i mean the best for me would be the Humans from Soulshackle and the Green guys from into the dark but that is sadly not possible haha... can u help me with the choice? my local shop has from both just one haha.... and if i have later both packs can i combine the walls from both packs to make a bigger map?
Hey man, of those two get Into the dark, because it also contains rules, tokens and everything else you need to get started. Soulshackle is basically an expansion set for Into the Dark
@@Rakaizulu thank you
Nobody expects the Adeptus Arbites!
Our chief weapons are fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency and a fanatical devotion to the Emperor!
Arbite bringing in a chaos space marine in handcuffs
EOB got a nice shout-out in the new #paintbravely podcast! Them basing videos are still the best out there
I'm a simple man, I see Dark Eldar and pack up to go home.
Shotgun sniper? Ever played borderlands?
So sad for Just Kabalite instead of mixed type of units but rules are kinda brutal with the double Piercing and 2 AP2 weapons
The Arbitis or however you spell literally just have a Tau Tactical Ploy that let's them shoot into melee as a permanent ability. That's not very fair
hanging to see your painted arbities
Are these new drukhari sculpts? Or revamped ones 🤔
The old kabalite warriors + an upgrade sprew
@@bagel_guy9495 upgrade , that's cool . Cheers 👍👍👍
@@HooDie-Trench-GoTh2022 I warn thee, kabalite warriors have really nasty seamlines on the legs and heads.
@@bagel_guy9495 😭😭
I'm looking for Shadow Vaults
3 months late man (or maybe you Just talk about the book)
@@bauguilhugo9037 I know but I couldn't find the box it's on Amazon I think scalpers got it
Ok I just realized I live like 4 minutes from Valhalla Lobby lol
Honestly, it sounds like the Drukhari got a solid new team, with fun new tactical ploys, and a specific type of play in mind. Arbites just seem busted for the sake of it. I have been on the fence about this box set and tbh, this just puts me off, I want to have fub, not make my opponent annoyed at my every (obvious, and game-braking) decision. I rather have a team with flaws and a fun theme than a team that just... wins ig.
What is gonna be different? OP rules! ;)
Starting to learn KT, pity KT costs $400 NZD
I’m pretty mad I can’t find a copy.
If the pain tokens were a pool they’d be blood tithe points
The ploy with preventing your opponent from doing scouting action is toxic as fck. I thought they crossed "asshole play" line with Gellerpox, but this is even worse.
As to shooting into combat, I always claimed that it should be an option with a caveat that BS is worsened by 1 and all misses are allocated as hits to a friendly operative.
The two you don't like is to keep ppl from sitting in their DZ and just shooting, they can but now there is a counter...
23:39 shotgun sniper, have you EVER played DOOM?/jk
Anybody else really like those new Arbities? I'm ready to see so many painted in Judge Dredd colours too!
Im frothing at the mouth for when they release them solo, I dont care about Dark Eldar or the Terrain at all, but the models look SO GOOD! and I want my DOGGO!
More op dlc. Gotta keep the nubs on the p2w treadmill.
Don't worry the next dlc pack will be completely underwhelming but have two super popular factions with really cool new toys at a 10% price hike.
OP rules on new miniatures! Unheard of! Absurd!
First and grateful for this channel
Closed captioning rendered 'Valhalla Hobby' as 'val halahabi' :D :D :D
I think you are misinterpreting Contain Threat. Its actually very hard to score for you, because the opponent just has to leave 6 in of their deployment zone to deny you points...which is probably what most teams are going to want to do anyways to try and score objectives.
I take it you never use shotguns with slugs in Battlefield.
The rules look like a ton of fun, but Drukkhari models don't do it for me and I'm not willing to spend GW prices for models I don't like. Maybe its time to make a "stimmed up escher gang" as proxies...
That dead or alive tac op should be the only one for the exaction team … full stop
The two tac ops called out as OP sounds like they're really bad? You can barely ever prevent the opponent from having someone more than 6" from their Deployment zone, and you probably can't keep the ops alive till end of game for Gather Evidence without surrendering the match
Wait you only have 142.000 abos
Lets gooo
You can score 20 points....you score 2 points for having a painted team 😜
2nd
I wanted this box. Then it sold out so fast I got major FOMO and bought all the other Kill Team boxes. 🙃
Big talk from someone that never plays in tournaments 🤔
Necesito este canal en español
It’s pronounced “ar-bit-eez”
669th, niiiiiiice
This guy, Jay is it?, went to a kill team podcast once and now he thinks he knows all about the game. Jk love you jay
Moin
Second i guess lol
GW releasing OP rules for new-new models? What a shocker!
Anyways glad to see some are still entertained by the same old GW shenanigans...my favorite being the squats where they publicly apologized for being too GW.
But if it were a pool of pain… how does that work lore-wise?