I would not say he inspected EO, it just happened by chance (1/8) 4 pairs is insane of course, and I have no idea what the hell is going on in his head, maybe he can see sth about EO, but i would say he did not inspect that in these solves (not manipulating edges with the last F2l and no EO alg after)
yeah it's debatable. If you look at the last f2l pair for the 2 solves where he completed EO, it looked like normal f2l solving could give you free EO. But again, could be wrong if somehow Xuanyi was already influencing EO earlier, but I doubt it.
Its cool seeing yiheng smiling so much. During comps he has a serious face on, and whne he lost the world championship last year, he looked really disappointed on each mess up. But now, just some friendly competition where hes losing, but we see the smile we love ❤️ ❤ from him.
@@Citruscuber please avoid saying these things, even for a joke - the cubing community should remain inclusive and wholesome and comments like this aren’t good for it.
Soon, the top method would be a 3-look or even 2-look one (either CFOP style or ZB style). That's absolutely mad to see a young kid getting 3-4 pairs consistently planned and done correctly in one look.
@@parabolaaaaa4919 Not when for those averaging 4s or below where even the smallest of pause can make a difference (similar to how in 2x2, you need to be able to 1-look the whole cube to compete at the highest level), especially with some world class competitors where it did make a difference like at the previous Worlds.
my my is broken after watching this video, i thought they plan next move by watching how the block move while solving but no, they planned it before, that's insane.
I'm glad someone else said it. Being that he has the fastest ZB recognition yet seen to date, it's a bit insane that he would just so happen to be able to sometimes inspect all the way to a ZBLL case. I don't think he's capable of planning three pairs and predicting the ZBLS (I may be wrong) and is instead planning four pairs with edge control. So he probably has to make a choice between planning 3 pairs, doing the ZBLS, then doing the ZBLL, or planning four pairs with edge control, skipping the need for ZBLS, and doing the ZBLL. But there's an additional thing here. If he's so good at tracking pieces that he can average four plus pairs in inspection, in those cases where he only does three, he can probably predict ZBLL from ZBLS to an extent. Either way we're looking at two-look cube in which there's no counted pause time before the first look. Just a situation tailored algorithm planned in inspection, recognition of one thing, and another algorithm. It totally removes the pressure of thinking during the solve. All he has to do is develop high TPS and we're all cooked. Yiheng already has some mid to high 3 averages at home under his belt. So we know they're possible and coming. But this kid might be the one to actually make us have to ask if a sub-3 average is possible in ten years.
@@letsprogress4124 It's an in depth answer but here you go. So first of all, in standard OLL and PLL, after a certain amount of years and a ridiculous amount of solves, a bit of a sixth sense regarding PLL develops. I remember first hearing about this and thinking it sounded like total bull until it started happening to me. It's like this new form of (almost) skip that happens every so often seemingly at random, but you just "feel" and trust with 99% certainty that you're going to get a certain PLL. What's really going on is that even though you never consciously thought about it, on a subconscious level you've memorized how the OLL you use affects permutation, and sometimes the PLL pops right out at you. So Xuanyi would need to develop a similar sense from his ZBLS recognition stage of what the ZBLL would be. That's a lot more algs to have to develop a sense for than few fully can with just OLL. But here's the thing: ZBLS is basically just inserting your last pair while using edge control. Xuanyi not only generally is already thinking about edge control during pair one, but can just plan the entirety of F2L with edge control. The point is ZBLS isn't actually purely algorithmic for him. It's similar to the F2L of top cubers. They do it intuitively but they're also technically just using the best algorithms the entire time. It's just that they understand them, which is why they can also modify them on the fly when needed. That's ZBLS for him. He has an enormous leap on understanding it, and he tracks the state of all edge pieces on the cube so effortlessly that it would be hard to believe he doesn't very often know the ZBLL as soon as he knows the ZBLS. That's why his reaction time is so insane: He's not recognizing so much as verifying. Edit: Just some additional info for cubers who might think they could never do that. Well, have you ever noticed starting to be able to tell when a PLL skip is coming? That means you can do it. Those will come first. Then you'll get where you can tell when other PLLs you like are coming next. Seems to go from there, but the first will be when you start automatically realizing you have a PLL skip almost every time one occurs. You just see that it's one sprint to the finish line and to drop the cube without second guessing it.
In the words of Tymon Kolasinski "I think that if Yiheng keeps up the improvement, he will be the best for quite a long time. I think Tymon will change his opinion when he sees this video 😂😂😂
yes absolutely agreed, efficiency and tps still matter with that said, I have to say Xuanyi isn't inefficient my any means. Xuanyi is very efficient, if he wasn't that efficient, he wouldn't be able to lookahead so far as the more moves you do, the harder it is to recognize. It's more so the other way, Yiheng has super crazy efficiency as well as crazy TPS and that is why he is faster at the moment.
Watching this, we can say for sure that xuanyi is the next champion. If he can make the 4 pairs without looking at the cube, he just needs to spot the last layer to apply the zbll algorythm which will be an easy task.
Hey Antoine ! Is there some place I can contact you to talk about this video (discord/messenger/telegram) ? I'd like to do a review of this Yiheng vs Xuanyi battle on the french association's twitch channel but before I'd like to know more about it ! Maybe we could even do an itw in french ? I remember your french was pretty good when you posted on the french forum like 10+ years ago 😀
@@hemmojitoThe difference is that Xaunyi's TPS will come with age. As he grows and his muscles develop, his hands will fit around the cube and he will turn faster. Tymon had to work to improve his TPS. Not saying Xaunyi won't have to work, but just saying that Xaunyi will naturally get quicker TPS.
2:40 F2L + EO in 8 seconds of inspection… That is actually insane how is that even humanly possible
Can’t wait for new vid 🤣
kids: 15 seconds full f2l prediction
me: 0.01 seconds new stucube video prediction
I would not say he inspected EO, it just happened by chance (1/8)
4 pairs is insane of course, and I have no idea what the hell is going on in his head, maybe he can see sth about EO, but i would say he did not inspect that in these solves (not manipulating edges with the last F2l and no EO alg after)
I can see the next vid already. The title is "We're doomed" with a pic of Xuanyi 😂😂😂
yeah it's debatable. If you look at the last f2l pair for the 2 solves where he completed EO, it looked like normal f2l solving could give you free EO. But again, could be wrong if somehow Xuanyi was already influencing EO earlier, but I doubt it.
Chinese cubers in a years time: *plans the next solve in inspection*
So funny 😂😂😂😂
😂 love this
@@KewbzUK wow hi KewbzUK, if your the actual website, I buy cubes from you all the time!
Yesss... :)
When u see two chinese cubers,u know that the younger one always wins
😂
No way bro just said that 💀 I honor you for speaking honestly though bro that is so true
Sadly, that’s the truth 😂
Shut up
I’m sorry 😅
1:18 how does he do 3 pairs???!!! I feel so dumb right now I struggle with one pair 😭
edit: 1:47 4 pairs?? okay I quit. ciao guys
Welcome to the old people's corner :)
I struggle with the cross
Cubehead 🫢🫢🫢
Its cool seeing yiheng smiling so much. During comps he has a serious face on, and whne he lost the world championship last year, he looked really disappointed on each mess up. But now, just some friendly competition where hes losing, but we see the smile we love ❤️ ❤ from him.
He knows lol, its not like some serious competition so his parents wont do stuff to him
This was insane how he is averaging 4 pair
we're all doomed💀
🤯🤯🤯
Nah actually tho, full f2l in one inspection
I found your son's WCA account
Its Isaac ting
@@ZAKLegozDo you know Olor’s WCA account
consistently planning full f2l?? wtf
me: where tf is my first f2l pair
me: where is that cross piece
lol
true lol
@@BedMinerme : Wheres my cube
Xuanyi: "What do you mean F2L pairs? I just do the whole thing"
As a person who averages 0 pairs with unlimited inspection, I see this as insanity.
How is this even possible
I like how they Immediately start solving right after 12sec mark even if you tell them to fully use 15 sec😂 it’s in every speedcuber’s dna
In cubing 12 seconds basically mean start right now or DNF
They would be told to stop inspecting once they reach 15
This is not a comp@@icecreamcloud007
@@icecreamcloud007 DNS*
@@icecreamcloud00712 is right now or +2. 15 is right now or DNF
I'm absolutely blown away
And there's me struggling to inspect my first pair
And theres me who still does lbl
I can’t even do cross lol
And then there’s me who can only plan 3 cross pieces
and there's me avg 12sec struggling to inspect cross 😂
@@GetRidOfHandles I do that sometimes 🤣
this video makes me realise i should work on my inspection i average sub 11 and sometimes still struggle with inspecting cross
lil bro on the right has a fresh cut too
his mom didnt look happy at the end 💀
Yiheng got beat after this one💀
🤣🤣🤣🤣@@Citruscuber
@@Citruscuber please avoid saying these things, even for a joke - the cubing community should remain inclusive and wholesome and comments like this aren’t good for it.
@@georgescholey ok mb
@@Citruscubererm actually it’s “beaten”
Soon, the top method would be a 3-look or even 2-look one (either CFOP style or ZB style).
That's absolutely mad to see a young kid getting 3-4 pairs consistently planned and done correctly in one look.
Xuanyi looks like he's already doing 3 look for the most part and definitely getting very close to 2 look.
maybe but with good enough look ahead and tps it doesnt seem too necessary
@@ezrashere Yeah, I'm not surprised after seeing that video.
@@parabolaaaaa4919 Not when for those averaging 4s or below where even the smallest of pause can make a difference (similar to how in 2x2, you need to be able to 1-look the whole cube to compete at the highest level), especially with some world class competitors where it did make a difference like at the previous Worlds.
this is actually the first time i hear them talk
full f2l and eo inspection + zbll is the future of cubing then?
you mean cancelling into ZBLL on the last pair💀
Will you do more videos with concepts like that, with young chinese cubers or that was a special occasion.
I can definitely do more with requests!
my my is broken after watching this video, i thought they plan next move by watching how the block move while solving but no, they planned it before, that's insane.
This kid is going to set some new records....
Literally two 2-look solves for Xuanyi
I'm glad someone else said it. Being that he has the fastest ZB recognition yet seen to date, it's a bit insane that he would just so happen to be able to sometimes inspect all the way to a ZBLL case.
I don't think he's capable of planning three pairs and predicting the ZBLS (I may be wrong) and is instead planning four pairs with edge control. So he probably has to make a choice between planning 3 pairs, doing the ZBLS, then doing the ZBLL, or planning four pairs with edge control, skipping the need for ZBLS, and doing the ZBLL.
But there's an additional thing here. If he's so good at tracking pieces that he can average four plus pairs in inspection, in those cases where he only does three, he can probably predict ZBLL from ZBLS to an extent.
Either way we're looking at two-look cube in which there's no counted pause time before the first look. Just a situation tailored algorithm planned in inspection, recognition of one thing, and another algorithm.
It totally removes the pressure of thinking during the solve. All he has to do is develop high TPS and we're all cooked. Yiheng already has some mid to high 3 averages at home under his belt. So we know they're possible and coming. But this kid might be the one to actually make us have to ask if a sub-3 average is possible in ten years.
@@FlashRayLaser why do u think he can see zbll from zbls?
@@letsprogress4124 It's an in depth answer but here you go. So first of all, in standard OLL and PLL, after a certain amount of years and a ridiculous amount of solves, a bit of a sixth sense regarding PLL develops. I remember first hearing about this and thinking it sounded like total bull until it started happening to me.
It's like this new form of (almost) skip that happens every so often seemingly at random, but you just "feel" and trust with 99% certainty that you're going to get a certain PLL.
What's really going on is that even though you never consciously thought about it, on a subconscious level you've memorized how the OLL you use affects permutation, and sometimes the PLL pops right out at you.
So Xuanyi would need to develop a similar sense from his ZBLS recognition stage of what the ZBLL would be. That's a lot more algs to have to develop a sense for than few fully can with just OLL. But here's the thing: ZBLS is basically just inserting your last pair while using edge control.
Xuanyi not only generally is already thinking about edge control during pair one, but can just plan the entirety of F2L with edge control. The point is ZBLS isn't actually purely algorithmic for him.
It's similar to the F2L of top cubers. They do it intuitively but they're also technically just using the best algorithms the entire time. It's just that they understand them, which is why they can also modify them on the fly when needed.
That's ZBLS for him. He has an enormous leap on understanding it, and he tracks the state of all edge pieces on the cube so effortlessly that it would be hard to believe he doesn't very often know the ZBLL as soon as he knows the ZBLS. That's why his reaction time is so insane: He's not recognizing so much as verifying.
Edit: Just some additional info for cubers who might think they could never do that. Well, have you ever noticed starting to be able to tell when a PLL skip is coming? That means you can do it. Those will come first. Then you'll get where you can tell when other PLLs you like are coming next. Seems to go from there, but the first will be when you start automatically realizing you have a PLL skip almost every time one occurs. You just see that it's one sprint to the finish line and to drop the cube without second guessing it.
Still struggling with my second pair, and I've been seeing my first a decade. Feel old
3:10 I was creeped out by seeing her💀💀
great video
Yiheng: 2.33 pairs average
Xuanyi: 4 pairs average
Me: 1 pair average 😅
Me: 3 cross pieces, 0 pairs average
@@cuberious1419 same
@@cuberious1419same
Me only cross😂
Me nothing😂😂😂
If we got kids who can plan eo now... in like 5 years its gonna be up to pll in inspection
Impressive Mandarin dude
Antoine: "Yes, I'm Canadian but I fluently speak Mandarin, no biggie!"
Like why am I still cubing?😭
amazing video. Pls try to bring Qixian too
How is this video somehow it’s 3:47 minutes long?
And the end, they're just childs... Sometimes we forget about that
Bro Yiheng's domination is at the stake 😅
Turning matters way too much… also lookahead is still allowed in solves, I think Yiheng gets to reign for a while still :)
@@nape6625 yup I know but his turning is also damn good and he can be a very strong contender for Yiheng as he's just 6 now
@@usamathecuber258Xuanyi is 7 recently.
In the words of Tymon Kolasinski "I think that if Yiheng keeps up the improvement, he will be the best for quite a long time. I think Tymon will change his opinion when he sees this video 😂😂😂
yes absolutely agreed, efficiency and tps still matter
with that said, I have to say Xuanyi isn't inefficient my any means. Xuanyi is very efficient, if he wasn't that efficient, he wouldn't be able to lookahead so far as the more moves you do, the harder it is to recognize. It's more so the other way, Yiheng has super crazy efficiency as well as crazy TPS and that is why he is faster at the moment.
Antonie, ¿cómo puedo practicar para conseguir algo de ese nivel de observación? Saludos.
Hola amigo, ni idea, pero que bueno que hables español lol
We're so doomed
Watching this, we can say for sure that xuanyi is the next champion. If he can make the 4 pairs without looking at the cube, he just needs to spot the last layer to apply the zbll algorythm which will be an easy task.
Xuanyi Geng One Look in 20-30 seconds?
Wow that’s incredible
Amazing!
Bro can do all f2l without looking faster than i can do the cross
0:50 bcuz he has many misscrambles
Is there a name for this offering?
2:33 mom came in 😂😂😂😂😂
mom came in looking dead serious 💀
@@Most-Random_Noob 😂
Yiheng is getting old now that dementia is hitting him
wheres my fucking 4th cross edge?
天才すぎる！
努力で出来ないことがいっぱいあるんですね😢
Xuanyi: two looks a solve
Me: struggles to plan cross solution
Holy this is insane.
Gan 12?
Yo what that’s crazy
That's amazing! :)
Hey Antoine ! Is there some place I can contact you to talk about this video (discord/messenger/telegram) ? I'd like to do a review of this Yiheng vs Xuanyi battle on the french association's twitch channel but before I'd like to know more about it ! Maybe we could even do an itw in french ? I remember your french was pretty good when you posted on the french forum like 10+ years ago 😀
Oui ça marche, tu peux m'envoyer un email au antoine@cubing.life
i am so dumb
I feel you, BTW good videos man!
This vid just proves that no one is good at speedcubing (except for chinese kids who have only been alive for a fraction of the time we have)
I do 5-look white cross. Who's dumb now? :)
Me, averaging 18 seconds:
Plan cross in 14.2s inspection.
Execute cross in 3.5s.
Spend 7s looking for 1st pair.
2:32 Yiheng’s mum
Hey antoine, is it true that Yiheng wang is moving to alberta? I heard from a friend whos in contact with you
Haha who
i honestly cant even understand this. I am dumbfounded. 4 pairs plus cross on inspection!!
Has to be April fools prank. No way yiheng doesn't one look solve the whole cube
At the beginning I thought ok, you guys plan f2l and I will plan my cross, then I laughed I made a great joke ha ha.... I... still lost...
没想到F2L预判还有比王艺衡更厉害的小朋友！
I'd never think to ever say that YiHeng loses but here we are
xuanyi makes yiheng look tall... sorry to both, and thank you for the amazing preformance!
makes sense, he's 7, Yiheng is 10
I thought yiheng would win.
Me too, but I guess Xuanyi has the potential to be better, his fingers just need to develop.
@@thecalculatedcreativecoder1428 Like Tymon. He was insanely efficient first and then upped the TPS.
@@hemmojitoThe difference is that Xaunyi's TPS will come with age. As he grows and his muscles develop, his hands will fit around the cube and he will turn faster. Tymon had to work to improve his TPS. Not saying Xaunyi won't have to work, but just saying that Xaunyi will naturally get quicker TPS.
대단한 아이들
First 2x2 is killed off, and 3x3 is up next.
My average is 3,333333.. cross pieces and 0.3333333 pairs
Insane!!
me struggling to plan fb
Wow, I knew there were better, but not that much 😮
You forgot to add the scary warning before the video ☹️
1 look 3x3 solve coming soon
Why is thisguy slower ???
Anak segemoy itu berkelahi dengan waktu
@STUCUBE I'm sure you will react on this, won't you
Mom please pick me up. I'm scared
And I was excited when I solved in 35 seconds…. Sucks learning at 40
Me still trying to find the first cross piece: 💀
How💀
Heather Stravenue
Brendon Ports
Me: can't even find first F2L pairs
Helena Court
Hackett Corners
Wow 你中文好厉害啊
The fact that the video takes 3:47
Tyrique Expressway
The fact that a 6 year old is faster than feliks is enough to kill me
Garrett Turnpike
Donnelly Field
Wayne Lock
Marietta Cove
Mylene Springs
Cool
Stanley Alley
Trever Falls
The younger one needs a smaller cube. He struggles with scrambling.
Alvis Pines