I really applaud Indian for making this video for all the Gearheads out there (like me). It's really cool to see all the internals come together and how they operate, while they highlight the different technologies they applied. For all you haters, this is what you might call, "RetroMod". It's not built for a Japanese race bike. It's a tribute to what people love and want from an American Cruiser, with newer and more reliable technology built in. They built it that way on purpose.
Hello Bobshaff, thank you for the question. Indian Motorcycle and Victory Motorcycles share the same parent company: Polaris Industries. The Thunder Stroke 111 was built from the ground up and shares no parts with the Victory Motorcycles engine.
Hello Everyone, the Thunder Stroke 111 was built from the ground up & shares no parts with the Victory Motorcycles or S&S engines. Our new heart is being built in Osceola, WI & will be available later this year in the all-new 2014 Indian Motorcycle. The Thunder Stroke 111 has 111 cubic inch displacement and 115 ft-lbs of torque offering best in class performance. You can see more details and specs about the engine on our website. Thanks to each of you for all of your comments.
This video was the coolest thing I've ever seen. This was a seriously high tech video, and Indian is totally transparent and honest about every good and bad thing about their motorcycles. They aren't trying to deceive people. They are actually a totally honest American company, and I hope they continue to succeed. Buyers are not stupid, and they want to be treated like gear heads and adults, not like mindless consumers who only want fancy badges.
This is an extra-ordinary engine...very impressive torque...outstanding get up and go...supe smooth. Good job Polaris and Team for bringing the V-Twin motor to modern specs.--- Motorcycle Marc. #Thunderstroke111
I did, and I absolutely LOVE the engine. It's smooth, torquey, sounds amazing, and makes so much power at high revs that your average HD rider would need a spare pair of depends if they ever dared to go WOT with it.
The HD Milwaukee 8 is a better engine. Where are the 4 valves per head? Where are the oil cooled heads? Where is the engine oil cooler for that matter? I don't see any of that on the 111.
The thunderstroke 111 shows how tight the tolerances are. I give Polaris the credit for designing a durable engine. They can run gear drive on cams. Harley has too much crank pin runout to do that. Harley is cutting too many corners to make higher profits for the higher ups.
I have a 2023 Indian Chief with the Thunderstroke 111. Before that a Indian Scout Bobber Sixty. I LOVE both of them. I'm selling the Sixty to my 30 yr old Son. I sport Indian tee shirts and patches when I go out. I'm a proud Indian Motorcycle owner.
Harley guys won't run....they will embrace it. Harley Davidson and the founders of Indian motorycles were FRIENDS in the beginning. There was no animosity. There won't be now. In fact they used to get together and party before each new model year to show off to each other what they came up with.....They were ENTHUSIASTS and VERY GOOD FRIENDS. Harley guys, like myself (3rd generation, Grandpa also had an excelsior-henderson), love Indian motorcycles. God bless Polaris, just feels right.
I've had my roadmaster for 4 years. Excellent service from it. The style, the little details all blend to make a great ride. Since this year makes 50 I've been on the roads, I think my opinion might be of value. I like to take my trunk off and wow, the handling improves. That trunk is very functional and lighted, with the power port, gives you a place to charge stuff out of the weather. Also power port in right saddlebag. Plus one up on the dash panel. The windshield option of up and down helps on long trips. Oh, yeah, and the option to plug your phone in it handy, too. Direct connection for blue tooth. I get a lot of comments on this bike. People like that retro look. Old guys (LOL) like me, tell me about their old Indians from back in the day. Yeah, my Harley brothers still talk to me, most of the time.
My stunning 2019 Indian Springfield in steel gray and burgundy metallic and I concur, the TS 111 is an absolute jewel of an engine! Cruiser Heaven, all day, every day!
THANK YOU USA 🇺🇲 INDAIN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY FOR SHOWING THE WORLD HOW THE INDAIN MOTORCYCLE MOTOR ENGINE WORKS INSIDE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK INDAIN MOTORCYCLE USA 🇺🇲
Thank you for your kind comment. The stats I've seen and I've seen them in many places, say that Harley commands more than 50 percent of the American market. But you could be just as right if you include all vehicle sales at Honda dealerships such as ATVs, etc. Nice to have a polite conversation with someone about this and I wish Indian all the success in the world.
Choice was here when Victory hit the streets. I do love the motor though. Will look better when someone ditches that huge air cleaner to show off that engine
Absolutely astonishing sound!!! The OHV is nowadays also very original. Hope to get some day one of motorcycles with this power unit. All best from Poland!
there are 2 versions , one before February 2019 equipped with 5.5-quart engines. These motorcycles have shorter dipsticks. When installed, they show a silver ring on the crankcase. one after February 2019 or later are equipped with a 6.0-quart engine. They feature a longer dipstick.
This engine is one beautiful air-cooled v-twin sporting a solid forged single-crankpin crankshaft riding on plain automotive-type bearings with two side-by-side connecting rods that does away with the "crankshaft run-out" problem that plagues H-D three-piece crankshafts! Unit construction with no primary-chain to boot! All these years I've stuck with H-D out of brand-loyalty and pure ignorance; however, now my eyes have seen the light! This engine from Indian is the BEST example of an air-cooled v-twin we will ever see. Soon, this engine along with all other air-cooled v-twins will disappear due to EPA emissions and noise stipulations. Get an Indian "Thunder-Stroke" v-twin now, while you still can! :-)
Hello BlindTom61, the all-new Indian Motorcycle will have pricing that is more attainable than it has been in the recent past. We cannot, however, share pricing at this time.
I just wish that oil cooler was a stock item and that the oil filter had SOME kind of protection on it . But I do LOVE my Indian Chief Vintage with the 111 , smooth as silk and fine as wine .
WOW! It even looks like an Indian flathead! Is there any video of the new frame/body? How many degrees is the V-twin? PS I'm from Middletown, Connecticut, home of Indian Number 1...
I also own and ride an '07 Hayabusa. Different bikes for different rides. My Streetglide is my go-to bike though. I've ridden since I was 14, have owned just about every kind of bike you can imagine and I'll be 68 this year. Drive my truck an average of 400 miles a year. Don't need a spare anything...-L-
It would be nice to see a complete bike very soon. I understand it will be awhile before production models hit the showroom floor but a complete bike will really get things amped up. Also the smart thing to do would be to sell them at existing Victory dealers as it will bring more people in to see the Victory bikes as well. So you'll get people to buy the Indian while also increasing sales for the Victory bikes. If you get the Indian right I'd like to sell them. Would be interested in training .
Got to love the forged crankshaft! Harley’s cranks suck ass! Most failures in a Harley engine are caused by the crank either directly or indirectly! Go Indian/Polaris keep up the good work!
The cylinder head fins even have the appearance of those on the old flathead motor; neat trick! Pity it couldn't have been a desmodromic engine, though.
Street bikes operate below 3000 rpm 99% of the time. DOHC is a benefit over 8000 rpm only. Although it is true that twin cams allow for variable valve timing of the intake and exhaust independently.
Hello Everyone, the all-new Indian Motorcycle will have pricing that is more attainable than it has been in the recent past. We cannot, however, share pricing at this time.
Let's see. My SG has a fly-by-wire throttle, an engine that will run 100K without any major problems if you do the service and don't ride like a fool,the most user friendly control layout, is oil-tight, has terrific fuel injecton and catalytic mufflers, belt drive, a six speed tranny and etc. Plus it has a cigarette lighter! Most importantly, the kickstand doesn't fold up like Japanese bikes do and a horn that actually works. And Charles, form one old fart to another, it's all good... ;- )
I've always had Honda' s And had very good luck with them. Than I want & tried a Victory Cross Country & fell in love with it. It was faster then my VTX 1800 & better ride. I did beat HDs with my VTX1800. I had Gold Wings also.
I thought when Polaris launched Victory in 1997 that it would have been smart for them to have acquired the Indian name instead. Victory makes good bikes and they have been a success but having the heritage of the Indian name would have really helped them. Anyway this is the first time since 1953 that Indian motorcycles will not be badge engineered bikes built on a shoe string.I hope they use this engine to build a more sporting bike on the order of the Confederate Hellcat or Yamaha MT01
Yeah, it does look a bit like S&S's X-Wedge. It should make for a great power-plant for anyone who wants reliability with throw-back styling. I remember helping a pal restore a 1947 Cheif. Ride safe.
Quick question about the engine. why does it need 3 cams for a total of 4 valves to operate? 1 for each cylinder. sure. but what does the 3rd do? cool bikes tho! saw it on Jay leno's garage . why not a performance bike? these are just heavy bikes for 50+ year old ppl.
Center cam (with dual lobes) drives the intake valves while the outside cams drive the exhaust valves for each cylinder. See this article for a great description of all the engine components: www.cycleworld.com/2013/03/09/exclusive-inside-the-all-new-indian-thunder-stroke-111-v-twin-engine
I really applaud Indian for making this video for all the Gearheads out there (like me). It's really cool to see all the internals come together and how they operate, while they highlight the different technologies they applied. For all you haters, this is what you might call, "RetroMod". It's not built for a Japanese race bike. It's a tribute to what people love and want from an American Cruiser, with newer and more reliable technology built in. They built it that way on purpose.
It's a masterpiece of industrial design. I want one for my living room.
Hello Bobshaff, thank you for the question. Indian Motorcycle and Victory Motorcycles share the same parent company: Polaris Industries. The Thunder Stroke 111 was built from the ground up and shares no parts with the Victory Motorcycles engine.
Hello Everyone, the Thunder Stroke 111 was built from the ground up & shares no parts with the Victory Motorcycles or S&S engines. Our new heart is being built in Osceola, WI & will be available later this year in the all-new 2014 Indian Motorcycle. The Thunder Stroke 111 has 111 cubic inch displacement and 115 ft-lbs of torque offering best in class performance. You can see more details and specs about the engine on our website. Thanks to each of you for all of your comments.
Love the sound effect of it assembling itself. Reminds me of a bolt action rifle cycling between rounds. The unmistakable noise of precision.
This brings a tear in my eye, I hope you succeed guys!
This video was the coolest thing I've ever seen. This was a seriously high tech video, and Indian is totally transparent and honest about every good and bad thing about their motorcycles. They aren't trying to deceive people. They are actually a totally honest American company, and I hope they continue to succeed. Buyers are not stupid, and they want to be treated like gear heads and adults, not like mindless consumers who only want fancy badges.
What a great video! The last 30 seconds takes the cake! Will buy.
I am drooling. This engine sounds so beefy. Can't wait to ride one.
Great video. I friggin' LOVE my Chief Classic. It's a torque monster at any speed...and a damn tank. Solid.
This is an extra-ordinary engine...very impressive torque...outstanding get up and go...supe smooth. Good job Polaris and Team for bringing the V-Twin motor to modern specs.--- Motorcycle Marc. #Thunderstroke111
I did, and I absolutely LOVE the engine. It's smooth, torquey, sounds amazing, and makes so much power at high revs that your average HD rider would need a spare pair of depends if they ever dared to go WOT with it.
The HD Milwaukee 8 is a better engine. Where are the 4 valves per head? Where are the oil cooled heads? Where is the engine oil cooler for that matter? I don't see any of that on the 111.
The thunderstroke 111 shows how tight the tolerances are. I give Polaris the credit for designing a durable engine. They can run gear drive on cams. Harley has too much crank pin runout to do that. Harley is cutting too many corners to make higher profits for the higher ups.
What a great motor. Had a chance to ride on of the new Indians and loved it.
I have a 2023 Indian Chief with the Thunderstroke 111. Before that a Indian Scout Bobber Sixty. I LOVE both of them. I'm selling the Sixty to my 30 yr old Son. I sport Indian tee shirts and patches when I go out. I'm a proud Indian Motorcycle owner.
Good luck for the new start
Harley guys won't run....they will embrace it. Harley Davidson and the founders of Indian motorycles were FRIENDS in the beginning. There was no animosity. There won't be now. In fact they used to get together and party before each new model year to show off to each other what they came up with.....They were ENTHUSIASTS and VERY GOOD FRIENDS. Harley guys, like myself (3rd generation, Grandpa also had an excelsior-henderson), love Indian motorcycles. God bless Polaris, just feels right.
Cool animation, impressive looking engine.
I've had my roadmaster for 4 years. Excellent service from it. The style, the little details all blend to make a great ride. Since this year makes 50 I've been on the roads, I think my opinion might be of value. I like to take my trunk off and wow, the handling improves. That trunk is very functional and lighted, with the power port, gives you a place to charge stuff out of the weather. Also power port in right saddlebag. Plus one up on the dash panel. The windshield option of up and down helps on long trips. Oh, yeah, and the option to plug your phone in it handy, too. Direct connection for blue tooth. I get a lot of comments on this bike. People like that retro look. Old guys (LOL) like me, tell me about their old Indians from back in the day. Yeah, my Harley brothers still talk to me, most of the time.
My stunning 2019 Indian Springfield in steel gray and burgundy metallic and I concur, the TS 111 is an absolute jewel of an engine! Cruiser Heaven, all day, every day!
I know a guy at work that's has the Vintage and it sounds awesome.
THANK YOU USA 🇺🇲 INDAIN MOTORCYCLE COMPANY FOR SHOWING THE WORLD HOW THE INDAIN MOTORCYCLE MOTOR ENGINE WORKS INSIDE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK INDAIN MOTORCYCLE USA 🇺🇲
Thank you for your kind comment. The stats I've seen and I've seen them in many places, say that Harley commands more than 50 percent of the American market. But you could be just as right if you include all vehicle sales at Honda dealerships such as ATVs, etc. Nice to have a polite conversation with someone about this and I wish Indian all the success in the world.
Choice was here when Victory hit the streets. I do love the motor though. Will look better when someone ditches that huge air cleaner to show off that engine
you guys got my money, no matter what the price is.
A true work of art! Please make another Scout.
Mn look forward to seeing an Indian in UK soon then, I know you own Victory as well, some of them bikes a nice too
Absolutely astonishing sound!!! The OHV is nowadays also very original. Hope to get some day one of motorcycles with this power unit.
All best from Poland!
Absolutely beautiful animation.
there are 2 versions , one before February 2019 equipped with 5.5-quart engines. These motorcycles have shorter dipsticks. When installed, they show a silver ring on the crankcase. one after February 2019 or later are equipped with a 6.0-quart engine. They feature a longer dipstick.
impressive, i cannot wait to see how it runs.
Looks great very similar to the S&S X wedge
Excellent moteur à la hauteur de la marque originale, j'en suis ravi !!
This engine is one beautiful air-cooled v-twin sporting a solid forged single-crankpin crankshaft riding on plain automotive-type bearings with two side-by-side connecting rods that does away with the "crankshaft run-out" problem that plagues H-D three-piece crankshafts! Unit construction with no primary-chain to boot! All these years I've stuck with H-D out of brand-loyalty and pure ignorance; however, now my eyes have seen the light! This engine from Indian is the BEST example of an air-cooled v-twin we will ever see. Soon, this engine along with all other air-cooled v-twins will disappear due to EPA emissions and noise stipulations. Get an Indian "Thunder-Stroke" v-twin now, while you still can! :-)
I agree. Harley Davidson crankshafts are a joke. I guess that is part of their heritage. I give them credit. They do a good job with paint and chrome.
What a beautiful Motor!
Its amezing editing
The ending gave me chills!
Hello BlindTom61, the all-new Indian Motorcycle will have pricing that is more attainable than it has been in the recent past. We cannot, however, share pricing at this time.
NICE POWER PLANT,FINALLY!CONGRATS TO THE ENGINEERS!
Absolutely beautiful!!!
I just wish that oil cooler was a stock item and that the oil filter had SOME kind of protection on it . But I do LOVE my Indian Chief Vintage with the 111 , smooth as silk and fine as wine .
I know I’m late to the party but this maybe the coolest thing I’ve ever seen
That actually gave me goosebumps
So thats how they're assembled.
Looks good
oh man i think i want one now
WOW! It even looks like an Indian flathead! Is there any video of the new frame/body? How many degrees is the V-twin? PS I'm from Middletown, Connecticut, home of Indian Number 1...
I love my 2016 Chief Vintage
Like the way they make it look like a Flathead, but it's a pushrod motor, Cool.
That's art!
I am so happy it's a pushrod motor!
They should have added a kick starter, half the fun used to be watching guys trying to start their bikes back in the 60's.
I also own and ride an '07 Hayabusa. Different bikes for different rides. My Streetglide is my go-to bike though. I've ridden since I was 14, have owned just about every kind of bike you can imagine and I'll be 68 this year. Drive my truck an average of 400 miles a year. Don't need a spare anything...-L-
Beautiful engine
Sweet , thank you .
Goosebumps guaranteed!!!
Love that new victory motor👍
Cant wait to see the 108 water cooled version of the similar style video
what do you think : maybe try a Indian custom build after my youtube project is finished> > >?
It would be nice to see a complete bike very soon. I understand it will be awhile before production models hit the showroom floor but a complete bike will really get things amped up. Also the smart thing to do would be to sell them at existing Victory dealers as it will bring more people in to see the Victory bikes as well. So you'll get people to buy the Indian while also increasing sales for the Victory bikes. If you get the Indian right I'd like to sell them. Would be interested in training .
holy sweet mother of Jesus. you Harley boys better run for the hills
So this is a victory owned brand right? If it runs anything like my freedom motor I'm interested
Holy shit, another air cooled v-twin, truly choice is coming to America.
im hoping they do exactly that not make it to flashy. i like the street bob because its so raw and basic but still powerful
I do sort of get what is being said. What about the V Rod? No experience on my end here, but don't they run out pretty good?
Awesome, who did the VFX here?
the most beautiful V-twin ever
Can you please make one for the 116?
What will be the price range of the new Indian motorcycles? Any idea yet?
Got to love the forged crankshaft! Harley’s cranks suck ass! Most failures in a Harley engine are caused by the crank either directly or indirectly! Go Indian/Polaris keep up the good work!
The cylinder head fins even have the appearance of those on the old flathead motor; neat trick! Pity it couldn't have been a desmodromic engine, though.
check out some buells, they're harley engines but they have been tuned up by a large amount.
Does this engine feature a gear-driven counter-balancer? I hope they sell (a lot).
Best engine vid I ever saw ... It a shame I can't own a Indian or a victory .. Too expensive for me .. :-(
Keep Rockin'. !!!
Thank you
We hope to have in Italy
Ivan Peverada
Yes,I've got the links,which cannot be posted here.Is wikipedia enough for You?If not,send me a PM.Cheers!
Street bikes operate below 3000 rpm 99% of the time. DOHC is a benefit over 8000 rpm only. Although it is true that twin cams allow for variable valve timing of the intake and exhaust independently.
Hello Everyone, the all-new Indian Motorcycle will have pricing that is more attainable than it has been in the recent past. We cannot, however, share pricing at this time.
Let's see. My SG has a fly-by-wire throttle, an engine that will run 100K without any major problems if you do the service and don't ride like a fool,the most user friendly control layout, is oil-tight, has terrific fuel injecton and catalytic mufflers, belt drive, a six speed tranny and etc. Plus it has a cigarette lighter! Most importantly, the kickstand doesn't fold up like Japanese bikes do and a horn that actually works. And Charles, form one old fart to another, it's all good... ;- )
I've always had Honda' s And had very good luck with them. Than I want & tried a Victory Cross Country & fell in love with it. It was faster then my VTX 1800 & better ride. I did beat HDs with my VTX1800. I had Gold Wings also.
Steve I didn't even see what ya said :) ride free stay
safe man :)
very cool demo vid
Go Indian & Victory. Watch out HDs. The best is coming.
Got the links to the news to prove it?
How it compares with the HD M8?
It looks like the exhaust valve is opening immediately after the intake valve without waiting for the power stoke. Did the animators get it wrong?
wish more bike makers would do vids like this. xlent 2 watch
Indian....best push rod motor.
Wow! Extremely complicated.
looks like i know what im buying when my road king is paid off.
Did you buy one??
Love it!!!!
I thought when Polaris launched Victory in 1997 that it would have been smart for them to have acquired the Indian name instead. Victory makes good bikes and they have been a success but having the heritage of the Indian name would have really helped them.
Anyway this is the first time since 1953 that Indian motorcycles will not be badge engineered bikes built on a shoe string.I hope they use this engine to build a more sporting bike on the order of the Confederate Hellcat or Yamaha MT01
Yeah, it does look a bit like S&S's X-Wedge. It should make for a great power-plant for anyone who wants reliability with throw-back styling. I remember helping a pal restore a 1947 Cheif. Ride safe.
How much does the engine weigh?
Actually it was Harley-Davidson that introduced the worlds first 3 speed gear box at the Isle of Mann, way before your time Pal.
Quick question about the engine. why does it need 3 cams for a total of 4 valves to operate? 1 for each cylinder. sure. but what does the 3rd do?
cool bikes tho! saw it on Jay leno's garage
. why not a performance bike? these are just heavy bikes for 50+ year old ppl.
Center cam (with dual lobes) drives the intake valves while the outside cams drive the exhaust valves for each cylinder. See this article for a great description of all the engine components: www.cycleworld.com/2013/03/09/exclusive-inside-the-all-new-indian-thunder-stroke-111-v-twin-engine
What bike have this motor?
Chieftain, chief, springfield, road master
No probs man :) That must be better,more profitable for them :) Cheers!
outstanding vid......
but i'll take the engine and leave the rest
'10 XC
Can't wait
I wish Indian would make something comparable to the Dyna and/or Sportster is price and performance, ie; $9K-$13K range.
Sweet.