1977 Unadilla 500 National

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  • @onefishfrank9145
    @onefishfrank9145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you Lyndon Fox! What a track Unadilla was, love seeing many of the stars of that era again!

  • @dougharvey9766
    @dougharvey9766 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Honda guys really had the Fox shocks setup nicely they where on a whole other level. Great video

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had that CR 360 GP Husqvarna a Hiekko Mikkola replica Howerton is riding( Plate number 1 ).
    Light and fast bike .
    Purple tank .

  • @kahuna2
    @kahuna2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was at that race. Me, my girlfriend, and 2 other buddies. Marty Smith was my hero back then. So sad he's gone. RIP

  • @Buelligan88
    @Buelligan88 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I read about this race in every magazine of the day... eerie seeing it so many years later.

  • @badgersworldofmotorsports511
    @badgersworldofmotorsports511 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The 70,s was the best motocross-gr8 video!!!!! I was looking to see if my old friend Mickey Boone was in this race,but did not see him as far as I can tell-mickey was an awesome rider!!!.

  • @pursang833
    @pursang833 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would have loved to seen Pomeroy take that bike over for the GP's, he would have been the 500 World Champion without a doubt in my mind. The most naturally rough track we had and that uphill to the orchard was a killer.
    It's a shame they started to rip it and add man made jumps. I know they say they have to keep up with the bikes and rider skills but it took away the personality of the place.
    Thanks for posting this and others from that era lfoxracer!

  • @gerard321111
    @gerard321111 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video!! Bob Hannah DNF’d. I recognize Kent Howerton on the Husky, Jammin Jimmy Weinert on the Kawasaki, Tommy Croft on the Honda and is that Steve Stackable in the Maico. Wow, great times.

  • @mcgoodle
    @mcgoodle 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Those factory Hondas from '77 could probably still win some local races today. Those things were incredible. I read an interview with Jim Pomeroy where they asked him what was the best bike he ever rode, and he instantly said that it was the bike in this video.

  • @tundratunes
    @tundratunes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought my first Husqvarna, a CR250, from Pat Moroney, who used to race the 250 Grand Prix at Unadilla every year in this era. I bought his 250 right after the 1977 race season ended. I immediately took off the top end to put in new piston rings and saw he had that bike bored out to the max. It was a serious beast, went like a rocket but handled like a dream. The Unadilla experience was amazing because the track was outrageous and the riders were just spectacular. That was the heydey for those European bikes, the Huskies, Maicos and KTMs. I still have the Unadilla poster from 1981, which features a 1980 CR250 Husky rounding the track. It reads, "Global powers invade the premier U.S. track in an all-out battle to be world champion. Be there." 'Nuff said!

    • @moneyontrees6
      @moneyontrees6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are Unafuckin Dilla correct.
      Actually the heathens early on drunk and destroying property not cool.
      But if you saw the races awesome.
      At 58 1976 first Trans AMA.
      Gaylon loss in fall 1980 I saw the so sad Kawasaki pits.
      Raced there myself 2000 to 2012.
      Vet classes.
      What a ride ! It is a place to behold !

    • @kurtvonfricken6829
      @kurtvonfricken6829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@moneyontrees6
      Too bad they ruined the track. It is smooth with man made obstacles. The track in this video is gone.

    • @kurtvonfricken6829
      @kurtvonfricken6829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember Pat Moroney as a local racer in upstate NY. He was very flamboyant on the track a-la Magoo Chandler. I think they both rode support motos at ‘Dilla in the late 70s.

    • @tundratunes
      @tundratunes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kurtvonfricken6829 Yes, Pat's father Jim Moroney owned the shop in Newburgh that sold Harleys and Husqvarna in the late 70's. I was a regular there buying parts and top quality genuine Husky Products, like the coolest Husky pants and jerseys. I wish I still had some of those, but I wore them all out. I agree that the track of that era seems ruined. I just watched a few clips from this year's GP and it was a bummer. The track was almost totally unrecognisable apart from the first turn out of the gate and the Gravity Cavity, which back then we called the Screw U. I am in the process of restoring a 1977 Husky CR250, like the one I bought from Pat back then. Alas, this one has the stock Öhlins, whereas the one I bought from Pat has Marzocchis.

    • @moneyontrees6
      @moneyontrees6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pat in 79 rode a RM 400 in the 500cc support race. I remember the low end grunt of his short shift and major air and sideways off every jump. Fuckin awesome!!

  • @chad756
    @chad756 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That was an awesome video, thank you for sharing it. I can not believe how fast those guys were going back then.

  • @jpmorgen5726
    @jpmorgen5726 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Third over all to Staten, behind Smith and Croft, Harley's best national finish!

  • @billyt4526
    @billyt4526 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    #102 Jim Pomeroy
    Caught a glimpse of Jimmy Ellis on the can-Am
    #1 Kent Howerton
    #9 Marty Smith
    #2 Bob Hannah
    #5 Gary Semics
    #21 Chuck Sun
    #11 Rich Eierstedt Bultaco
    #13 Gaylon Mosier
    #16 Tommy Croft
    #3 Tony DiStephano
    #7 Danny LaPorte
    #31 Rex Staten on a H.D Holy cow! that has to be rare footage!
    #6 Steve Stackable (I think)
    Great footage - thanks!

  • @rong4189
    @rong4189 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So cool! Thanks for posting these vids man! All my heroes when I was a kid! And those Fox Airshox, they were like 'MX Jewelry' back then, love it!

    • @lfoxracer
      @lfoxracer  8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks! It's nice to feel that dragging all that Super 8 camera gear around was worth it!!

  • @JoeMoto43
    @JoeMoto43 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was there, Stackable won his 1st national that day. Yes Pomeroy would have a been a force on 250's in Europe, not sure about 500's though. The Euro field was deep with talent & Lackey was a major American contender at that point finishing 4th behind Mikkola, DeCoster and Wolsink. My thoughts, Honda should have sent Bimbo to Europe in the late 70's for 250 GP's instead of keeping him here to battle Hannah. MX history would have been altered significantly in 250 GP's. R.I.P Bimbo we miss you.

  • @AmishStud98
    @AmishStud98 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Marty Smith was #9, Tommy Croft #16, Jimmy Weinert #5, Kent Howerton #1, Tony Distefano #3, Jim Pomeroy #102, Steve Stackable #6, Bob Hannah #2, Gaylon Mosier #13, Billy Grossi #21, Rick Burgett #8.

    • @JSP2350
      @JSP2350 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Jim Bunch Gary Semics #5, Jimmy Ellis #19, Chuck Sun #16, Rich Eierstedt #11

    • @Steez51
      @Steez51 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The number plates of my youth. I still associate my mental images of those heroes with those exact numbers. Remember? They called em "trick numbers" and everybody had to have em'

    • @Kawiboy
      @Kawiboy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Talk about a line up 🔥🔥.. What a track 👏💪✌️

  • @kurtvonfricken6829
    @kurtvonfricken6829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The little “S” shaped switchback from 2:50-3:00 was a cool obstacle. Gone forever as it is widened and flattened out.

  • @chadkimmel8957
    @chadkimmel8957 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Easy to spot those Marcos, gotta love em!

  • @mcgoodle
    @mcgoodle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Howerton rode that Husky like a 125; just peg it and let it go where it wants. Marty Smith had so much "style" in how he rode that he could be recognized without a number or name. Just think about how many fast guys were in this race. I really enjoyed re-watching this.

  • @muzzmatrix
    @muzzmatrix 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Howerton has the #1 Plate from his 1976 500cc championship. This is a 500 National.....no Euros in sight throughout this film. Man, those were the days, eh?

  • @jhheintz450
    @jhheintz450 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always Lyndon thanks for posting these. Bums me out that track is nothing like this now. I can still smile and feel lucky I got to be there in those days. Seeing the HOF riders push it for 45min motos Vs what we have now is no comparison

  • @mcgoodle
    @mcgoodle 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maicos, Huskys, even a Can-Am or two. I even saw a Bultaco! And they were still (pretty much) as fast as the Japanese bikes. Ah, for the good old days.

    • @keithmilne6281
      @keithmilne6281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bultaco at 5:50

    • @vicentemena947
      @vicentemena947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tienes razón de la BULTACO y minuto .9:32 una MONTESA Cappra que Buenos tiempos del motocross Grandes ciclistas y Bicicletas👍🇪🇸

    • @mcgoodle
      @mcgoodle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vicentemena947 Gracias, senor. La Montesa Cappra estaba una maquina linda. 1977 estaba un ano fantastico.

  • @JSP2350
    @JSP2350 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There are no ad banners lining the track. How will I know what to buy?

  • @alancochrane1289
    @alancochrane1289 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:25. Hannah proves he's the greatest

  • @wailingbones
    @wailingbones 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Slow motion & no sound make this mystical, vintage motocross movie AWESOMENESS !

  • @samjohnson6128
    @samjohnson6128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1 2 3 Tony D ....multi time

  • @waynemarcotte1654
    @waynemarcotte1654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Less or more speed...less or more suspension...doesnt matter. Racing was at its best pre 81

  • @lyndongriffiths3028
    @lyndongriffiths3028 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great Vid, The bikes and tracks where so tuff back then, if the current stars Roczen, Dungey, Gjaser etc had to ride those bikes and tracks they would be surprised big time. 500 two stroke takes no prisoners. The tracks were rutted and bumpy because of the bikes. 60's and 70's riders have their own stories. If your'e a young rider on your 2017 250 4 stroke masterpiece of modern technology, dont think you aint like these guys, in 30 years time your kids will be on their "Tesla E hover mx bikes" thinking you look slow but you'll be saying "back in my day tracks were rough". Just my thoughts.Read more Show less

  • @maico125
    @maico125 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maicos holding their own against the mega dollar Hondas!

    • @chadkimmel8957
      @chadkimmel8957 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      maico125 I thought those old 440’s could do much more than hold their own, like kick ass.

  • @usarmywarcollegesaidisrael2910
    @usarmywarcollegesaidisrael2910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great footage.

  • @timobrian444
    @timobrian444 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This track is rougher then and they had 4 inches less travel. I think Bubba should watch this clip to see what real men rode on. Can you imagine if these babies would have to ride on this track today.

  • @711pro
    @711pro 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    they need to bring back a big class like the 500cc

    • @georgedavis9411
      @georgedavis9411 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      711pro they have it took over the 250,s you know 450 F is that big enough for you the new 450 s have more GO. Today than the CR500r did.bam

  • @1622yamaha
    @1622yamaha 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is a fantastic video!!!

  • @gerard321111
    @gerard321111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was that howerton on the #1 husky? And Hannah out of the race early mechanical.

  • @NGC2392Eskimo
    @NGC2392Eskimo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was there. An amazing track.

  • @H3avyHaul3r
    @H3avyHaul3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    wow, you couldn’t call unadilla a mx track in 2021 compared to this.....not much X in mx today

  • @eseer3587
    @eseer3587 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1:05 the fence falls from all them leaning on it 😂

  • @jmzochsnrtr
    @jmzochsnrtr 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guess this was right before they invented the 'talkies' movies eh? lol... Thank you very very much for this!!!!!

  • @toxsickdog
    @toxsickdog 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Real Motocross Before it all went to shit.

  • @stevenperry9713
    @stevenperry9713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    REAL MOTOCROSS

  • @motokev2727
    @motokev2727 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @grabir01
    @grabir01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Power was not an issue.. Wow!!

  • @bluegull1541
    @bluegull1541 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    77' I was rippin' it on a Kaw KD-100.

  • @holeshot413
    @holeshot413 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    thats a ROUGH Track= real motocross

    • @yabbadabba1975
      @yabbadabba1975 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back in "the day", Unadilla staked, and I mean STAKED, out a different track on this hundreds of rolling hills. No bulldozers, few man made obstacles if any, and just a bitchin', great traction, fun day of racing. Sigh......

    • @870Rem12gauge
      @870Rem12gauge 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Back then they didn't clear all the rocks off the track. A 2" rock might fly up and hit you in the face.

  • @mwallace5031
    @mwallace5031 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    100% agree!

  • @74greendragon
    @74greendragon 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AYE!, great footage foxracer, is #102 @ 1:46 Jim Pomeroy? Great footage!, Smith was #1, was 16 T.Croft? Thanks. gd74.

  • @ianmangham4570
    @ianmangham4570 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kaplan America loves it

  • @troydeck5081
    @troydeck5081 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    man that is to kool dilla dont look like that today bet the pros today b like f... this and on a 500 2t fo 2 45min motos now thats REAL MOTOCROSS

  • @charleswinters7129
    @charleswinters7129 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was at that race.

  • @benrodeheaver701
    @benrodeheaver701 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Went to high point that year and overheard a Honda mechanic saying to Semics "No! I was joking about my shower, get out of there!

  • @e5m956
    @e5m956 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha.. I was born in '77. It wouldn't be until 1996 when I first went to 'Dilla.

  • @motokev2727
    @motokev2727 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those CR500s were fast

  • @1ls376
    @1ls376 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    does anyone else remember the company that made the numbers on the bikes? I think he raced Dallas/Ft Worth Texas area back then. O'Brian

    • @MrWgm250
      @MrWgm250 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still run ONeil numbers, I think they were called

  • @tonithompson9086
    @tonithompson9086 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No such thing as "groomed" tracks back then. The rougher the better says Bob Hannah.

  • @rrstieb
    @rrstieb 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome

  • @petemack4534
    @petemack4534 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    #11 on the Bultaco at 5m52s, that Rich Eierstedt?

    • @lfoxracer
      @lfoxracer  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's Rich Eierstedt, yes.

  • @bobbydale1938
    @bobbydale1938 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who in the Hell thumbs down this? ? What Fools! !!

    • @lfoxracer
      @lfoxracer  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, a few years ago I was accused of posting a video produced by Fox Racing (no relation) as my own! I was told I stole it from Fox, even when I sent the guy a photo of the original Super 8 400' film reel, he threatened to report me to TH-cam!

  • @chuckchagnon627
    @chuckchagnon627 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now thats raceing,

  • @muzzmatrix
    @muzzmatrix 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got Fox Shox?

  • @xxTyphoid
    @xxTyphoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The whole track is whoops

  • @Steez51
    @Steez51 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    7 was Laporte and 8 was Burgett?

  • @rrstieb
    @rrstieb 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who was #11 on the Bultaco at 4:50? Palmeroy?

    • @lfoxracer
      @lfoxracer  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's # Kent Howerton on his Husky

    • @rrstieb
      @rrstieb 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Woops I meant at 5:50 .. sorry

    • @lfoxracer
      @lfoxracer  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not Jimbo, not sure though

    • @lentomlak
      @lentomlak 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's Rich Eierstedt

    • @MrWgm250
      @MrWgm250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kenny Zart I'm guessing

  • @yz125motorider
    @yz125motorider 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    sooooo, no tech 10's?

  • @daredevildaryl2645
    @daredevildaryl2645 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    1977, why are there a shortage of monoshock bikes?

    • @bobbydale1938
      @bobbydale1938 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      daredevildaryl yamaha patent, these bikes are pure factory from bottom up )) $$$$ $

    • @kurtvonfricken6829
      @kurtvonfricken6829 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kawasaki unitrak. late 70s then Suzuki full floater around 1980 then Honda pro link early 80s

  • @1MRTHOM
    @1MRTHOM 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    is there no sound, or am I messed up,lol?

  • @kurtvonfricken6829
    @kurtvonfricken6829 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was at the 1977 Trans AMA race. It was a rainy day. October 9. Roger D won. This was not that race: too dry, no Europeans, and the trees are too green.

    • @abadwillys
      @abadwillys 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes, i was there too, it even snowed that day, have pics from then , wish i could share

    • @kimkleiner8456
      @kimkleiner8456 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wasn't there but i wish i could remember which Unadilla race i did attend. The race i went to was definitely in '77 i am thinking early August? We didn't arrive till late Saturday afternoon and it was hot. Sunday morning it poured. First moto most of the field wasn't able to complete a lap because there was a section of track that went down a ravine to a off camber 180° and then back up the hill. Rover D and a Dutch or UK rider on a 4 stroke 250 Honda were the only riders that could get back up the hill! I think a lot of riders and fans were deeply disappointed especially those that chose to sit in small grandstand at the start/finish but it was the best moto-x i ever saw. Lot of S. Cal teenagers got served some humble pie that first moto by incredibly smooth Roger D. and what's his name Eurodude with the flatter powerband of his privateer 4-stroke. Could it have been a 250gp? I wanna say a national cuz it was mostly Americans. If anyone has footage of that race please upload. Probably already here. Sorry i should have searched.

    • @kurtvonfricken6829
      @kurtvonfricken6829 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kimkleiner8456
      The first USGP raced at Unadilla was July 1978, so it couldn’t be that. Before then Unadilla hosted a 500 national in the Summer and the Trans-ama/USA in the fall. If it was Summer it must have been the 500 National. But if Roger and the Europeans were there it wasn’t a national so I don’t know.

  • @al8061
    @al8061 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    No jumps? Were these guys scared?

    • @bobfanucci8849
      @bobfanucci8849 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We didn't have these Cadillacs they race today. Our tracks weren't groomed. It was long, tough racing that beat the hell out you.

    • @bretmuldner
      @bretmuldner 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank god, jumps are boring!

    • @kurtvonfricken6829
      @kurtvonfricken6829 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually this was a European style natural terrain track. There were jumps because of the terrain but nothing man-made.

  • @johnbaker4107
    @johnbaker4107 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video would be 250 class white # plate!

  • @lynch3088
    @lynch3088 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @timobrian444 And 45min motos!

  • @Steez51
    @Steez51 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hannah 2-Stackable 6- Howerton 1- distefano 3- Semics 5- Sun 21- Eierstedt 11- Mosier 13- Ellis 19-
    Are we sure this isn't the 77 Trans-AMA race?

  • @Tide12NC
    @Tide12NC 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Furman Gray #503

  • @2strokin70
    @2strokin70 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there no sound? Wth

    • @lfoxracer
      @lfoxracer  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry 1977 was super 8 movies with no sound, a rew of my later films had sound when I bought a new camera and could afford to spend about $14 to shoot 3 minutes and 20 seconds of film per cartridge!

  • @husky500cr
    @husky500cr 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I even see a Harley Davidson at 0:20.

  • @Maico700ccm
    @Maico700ccm 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    geiler sound

  • @Steez51
    @Steez51 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Smith was 9

  • @emileetschanz4451
    @emileetschanz4451 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    fv