1975 Livermore Trans-AMA Motocross Moto 1
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- The 1975 Livermore Trans-AMA race was fast, dry and dusty. Marty Smith was very fast all day on his works Honda. This was the race that heralded the rise of full-face helmets. In the second moto, Roger DeCoster's works bike broke in half at the triple clamp landing from the 70mph straightaway jump. The crash sent him face first onto the hard-packed track. Tough as nails, DeCoster cleaned himself up, and was taken to a hospital for surgery on his face.
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Love seeing this old footage of some of the first superstars of the sport. Roger, Gerritt, Semics, Howerton, Croft, Tony D, Karsmaker, Weinert, etc...
For sure. Heroes all. Best vid on streaming. Mr rothchild painted his “masterpiece”. It never gets tired..
I was there also, rode there on the back of my brother's norton. Was really surprised to see it behind Brad Lackey looking for a starting line with me and my brother leaning on the truck behind him with another friend. Great video many memories of riding at Carnigie for many years
This is wonderful footage, thank you for posting. I really enjoyed your comment elsewhere about staying at the race HQ and showing one of your other films to the racers and industry types, that's awesome! I was 13 back in '75 and regularly read about all of these guys in the pages of Motocross Action. I wouldn't get the chance to attend a pro race until the following year. My family and I wound up making the trip to RedBud in Michigan multiple times, both for the national races as well as the Trans-AMA events held there. I remember meeting Roger De Coster and Marty Smith (RIP) in the pits during one of those Trans-AMA events. I still have the t-shirt that I created and Smith signed for me at that race
One year we wound up staying in the motel that served as race headquarters for the national taking place down at Cycle World in Missouri. I was able to take photos of just about every racer or bike that I wanted to capture when they were preparing for the tech inspection being held in the big adjacent parking lot. Lots of the racers were willing to take the time to pose for a photo with my younger brother and myself. I remember Tony Distefano in particular was a real class act. I grabbed a photo of Jimmy Weinert working out on one of those boxing speed bags that the team had mounted on the door of their box van. Later on Bob Hannah was riding a BMX bike (a Jimmy Weinert bike no less) around in the motel, bunny-hopping fans laying down on the floor. He paused long enough to allow me to grab a photo of him with the bike.
All of the racing seemed so great back then but the Trans-AMA events in particular were extra special getting to see the likes of Roger De Coster, Brad Lackey (who had moved to Europe by then) and others. I seem to recall De Coster pretty much owning that series until '78 when Hannah finally managed to topple him. At RedBud one year I managed to grab a lot of photos of the riders during the parade lap when almost no one work a helmet. I also remember Michigan local boy Doug Domokos, the "Wheelie King" who circled the entire RedBud track on just the rear wheel. So many great memories of motocross back in the 70's brought back by your video. Thanks again!
In early seventies a friend's father was treasurer of Carnegie he had the key to one gates. We would go Friday and camp out for two days. Practice was on Friday. It was the best race every year the Inter Am. Great weekend, look forward to it, for several years.
I was there in 1974, as well. The weather was a lot cooler, and the track was soft and loamy. I couldn't believe how dry, hard packed, and dusty the track conditions were in 1975. It had been a long, hot & dry summer/fall.
@@markrothschild2618 Not sure if you live in CA.? I lived a half hour from Livermore. We had the gate keys and ride their several times a week, a lot of days during the week. The Inter Am was always in Nov. early seventies to say about 75, CA. always would get rain in Nov. we camped at the track it was cold and lucky we didn't get rain. Tent camping never were good in the rain. CA. went thru severe drought, you couldn't water your lawn, they have water rationing now. I miss the days of Inter Am, it was a great time, always looked forward to it. Never had a good camera to take pictures, wish I could have. Water rationing is really tough. I live in Discovery Bay on the CA. Delta, don't have water restrictions now.
Sam; At the time, I lived on the Lemoore Naval Air Station in the CA central valley. I worked a deal with the guy who ran the base paper. I would get him photos of all the base MX races (hosted by the base club), and he would give me credentials to get press passes at California MX races. Worked out really well! I do remember the water rationing in CA back then. It wasn't fun.
What spectacular footage, BRAVO!
Decoster 111 is the man
Best footage from that ERA ! Such a great job posting on this. I didn't hear any sound but I just made pipe noises in my head ! Excellent fast riders of the day !! Thumbs way up !
I was there that day, I remember Roger's front forks breaking off. This was Carnegie's upper International track and the original International track was on the lower part of the park, two great, very rough tracks with awesome uphill and downhill sections. I loved racing on these two tracks. Great memories! The 11:14 mark is the jump were Roger's crash was, you would hit the jump WFO.
A high school friend and I stayed at the Holiday Inn in Livermore, which was where all the teams were staying. I had a Super 8 movie of the Hangtown national earlier that year. ( th-cam.com/video/N9Ul_MKcsU8/w-d-xo.html ) The hotel manager put up a sign that I made in the lobby, telling all that I would be showing the Hangtown race the evening before the Trans-AMA race. Our room was packed with racers, teams, mechanics and industry types. They watched the movie over and over. I was in MX heaven! I had a press pass to both races, which allowed me to get very close to the action, and into the pits.
@@markrothschild2618 That's awesome! I know the Holiday Inn you are talking about. I raced the 75 Hangtown in the mud. It was the hardest day racing ever! It was survival even in the pits with cars, vans, trucks with campers were sliding around trying to leave after the race. The Hangtown video brought back memories of that race. Great videos.
true happiness , i do not represent horror or mystery which the judges give in the multitude of friends. thats`me without & within. to fold the matter the clock can be turn back given the matter cross - play - originating ----- \♧\♧\ ----- put that girl down.
Is that track still there? I lived in Livermore, CA. Don't recall ever hearing about it.
What part of Livermore was the track located in?
I attended the following weeks final round of the series at saddleback. R/d’s points lead was such that he didn’t have to race to capture the title. They loaded him up in
The back of a pick-up truck and did a lap around the circuit to the delight of his cheering,dedicated and adoring fans. R/d had a great knack for always making the right move, even now. One-of-a-kind sportsman. He showed us what it’s all about.thank you r/d.
I was at this race..rode my Honda 450 chopper from fremont..used to ride out there late 70's early 80's.
I was there for this race standing on the infield side of the big jump where Roger Decoster snapped
the forks off his works Suzuki……. I believe this incident is what ushered in the development of
full faced Mx helmets…Long live Brad Lackey 👊
Loved this. Thanks for posting it 👍🏼
Glad you enjoyed it! I've got lots of photos from other Trans AMA races, as well as some national qualifiers. Sure was some great racing back then.
Fantastic 70s never forgot glory days of these iron men lov e this video 2 strokes is my passion scrambling forever the man my idol of 51 yrs forever el hombre
HOLY MOLY!!!!! LOOK HOW ROUGH THAT TRACK IS!!!!!
Nowadays they prep...nice and smooth.
Yeah, today all the riders tell you how the tracks of today are so rough when in reality, this was normal back in the day and the only thing rough today are the ruts which are caused by grooming.
I used to ride this track back in the 80’s and 90’s during my weekday training rides. It was like riding in concrete. I put in hundreds of laps there wondering if it was that bad when it was built. Now I know it was. It was exactly the same as this video. If you don’t know Carnegie is mostly clay that ends up blue grooved in many spots which is why most of this track is still there. Hot tip, Carnegie in near zero visibility fog is one of the most exciting days you can have on a dirt bike.
I moved to the Bay Area from the Midwest around this time and had never ridden on hard-pack. First time I ever saw rubber on braking bumps was on this track. Yikes!
Really cool…remember these guys well.
This is awesome. Thank you :)
Thanks for posting this awesome historic footage of Carnegie’s Trans-Am track with all those legendary riders. I grew up learning to ride there in the mid eighties through the nineties. I have heard stories about these races taking place there and to this point had only seen two photos from these races. So awesome to finally see actual video footage of how the track was laid out for the race along with how everyone was pitted there. It’s so crazy for me to think all those big box vans, trailers, and even motor homes were actually able to get up that rather steep fire road to even get back up in there to that part of the park. Thanks again for giving me this visual I have always wanted to see from historical Carnegie!
I grew up riding at Carnegie and Hollister at the same time myself. This track was still kinda there at that time and we'd try to follow it through the bushes the best we could... 👍
Thanks For Sharing,those AMA MX Classics ...
Great stuff! Brought back a lot of good memories. Thanks!
Excellent quality
It's amazing how many technological advancements came to motocross during the 70's. Large diameter long travel gas forks, monoshocks, reed valves, liquid cooling, disc brakes. Today's bikes are just refined versions with the retrograde exception being the 4 strokers. Smokers? more power, lighter weight goes faster, hence the displacement handicap. Wing-ee-ding-ee-ding-ding-ding, and the smell of burnt klotz. Ah, memories.
Reed valves were developed in the 60s and used in production in 72. Water cooling and disc brakes were from the 80s and bikes have never been lighter than in the late 60s / early 70s. A 1975 Bultaco 360 Production Pursang weighed 209 lbs.
Eye witness to Roger's frame crack'n deal as well. Still a Suzuki fan today. And every time i ride Carnegie SVRA I'll ride into the Trans AMA area and try to find the layout of that '75 track.
Pretty cool to see the Jammer goofing around on the line!
Yeh, it looks like the dentist was dismissive of him. “Jammer” ran
Alot of “smack” but he could back it up. It was part of his game to “get” into the other riders “head”…
Great stuff it was true MX with Americans and Europeans racing side by side.
Back then, it was a very big deal to be first American at a Trans-AMA race.
Mark, THANKS FOR POSTING!!! HEY, Wait just a gosh darn minute, 51 views and (so far) i'm the ONLY guy to hit the LIKE BUTTON???? Come on guys, we can do better than that...
Thanks for checking out the video!
@@markrothschild2618 I also have 8mm of Michigan's Red Bud that I will transfer and post someday. Thanks again...and great story about the Holiday Inn.
I guess you realize how much you're showing your age when you recognize half these guys... I remember seeing a Premier big bike race like this in Saint Petersburg Florida Probably 1973 or 74 stood behind the starting line with a friend of mine so we could get roosted on... I was maybe 11 or 12 years old Although all the racers were very young men I remember my first impression was check out all these old guys riding these big motorcycles .. Very exciting I was pretty much hooked after that...
That is Carnegie cycle park I used to ride there for years ! I was there at those races it was great back then there was many good riders back then ! Rumor has it that all those who riders who came there and raced there complained that the track was to rough!!
That is Gary Jones on an Amex Islo! I had to watch a few times to see that!
Awesome film!
George, George, George of the moto....watch out for that tree!
I would love to see today's riders wake up and have these bikes and tracks to ride tomorrow. 😁
If today's riders had time enough to learn to ride properly.
brad lacky was the coolest rider back them,he win races playing around do wheelies ,it was fantastici to see him ride,i was like the kid who dreamed of a redrider BB gun,
Great footage.
Great video
I was there, saw them carrying Roger D out on stre cher after forks busted off.. First race I ever attended
That was the year they gave DeCoster three number ones just to make sure you understood who was number one. Then he dominated.
Mxa said he was so BAD he needed 3 # 1’s. I agree. Its true Still to this day..
Man now that’s Vintage MX for ya!
WHAT A WAY THE MAN SHOULD GO OUT AND WIN BOTH MOTOS IN HIS LAST RACE. ALWAYS MY HERO SINCE I WAS A KID
And I thought it was a beat up track when we rode there in the 1980’s……
Awesome subbed
I watched Marty Smith race many times. He was the greatest in his day. At Mid-Ohio he raced against 125 cc world Champion Gaston Rahier on a factory Suzuki. Poor Gaston, Smith made him look so bad in order not to lose face he pretended his bike was broke. He couldn't let it look like Smith outride him.
I was there too. I started my career on Suzuki, so I was a bit disappointed to see Rahier get trounced.
So Cool and classic, I used to hear locals talk about this race at the Carnegie OHV park between Livermore & Tracy, when Rodger D broke his frame in two
And Living in Livermore I got to Practice on it for a few years back in the late 1980s on my 87 cr250 & cr500
going through that same lower section with Trees, I couldn't imagine a pro race In such a tight area and thought I was off the track on an enduro Trail LOL,
It was never prepped and not a beginners' Track so usually vacant, Great when wet,
There are still remnants of it and
since it rained last night I think I head over today to check it out on my 08 crf 250 & 450 maybe find a pair of old RM forks with 111 on the Plate
GOLD !
I never realised bikes were so quiet back then.
My heroes
I have a terrible memory of Tony D's clothing line. Nice dusty track. 70 mph? I don't think so.
123 Tony D....multi time
I was there, and at all the Carnegie Trans Ams
I am curious is this track still there in Livermore. I lived there for 5 years never heard of it.
Hi Mark, do you own the rights of this video? I am making a documentary about Pierre Karsmakers and would really like to use some shots of him.
I do own the rights to the video. What type of documentary are you making? I also have some photos of PK from the mid-1970's. Where are you located? Is there a private way to contact you?.
i personally will never forget Styx? Sticks?
Rodger decoster would have one.but his rm370 could not handle him.the bike was not up to the task at hand
Man Carnegie doesn't look anything like it used to be. I'm trying to understand where this would have been nowadays. Would this be near the training hills? or more towards where the modern track is now?
Sill the same. This track is still there. Far west side border back about 2/3 of the park. Many other trails around it now, but most of it is still there, clay bumps and all.
@@motofunk1 so closer to corral hollow or more back in the hills somewhat over by the training hills?
I was standing in the start area next to Laurie DeCoster and Anneke Wolsink and I saw Roger crash and I said Roger just crashed and Anneke said "no way" I have picture of them hauling the bike back to the pits in two pieces. The lower triple clamp was a special hollow casting and the steering stem pulled right through the clamp. When Roger got back to the pits he was pissed his face was really torn up. The other bad thing that happened that day is some asshole pushed a truck tire and wheel off the top of the hill and came crashing down on people from behind. It hit the bottom of the hill cleared the track and landed half way across the start straight and then off the other side of the hill where theer was no one around thank God. I understand some people were seriously injured by that tire
Awesome footage !! But how bout overdubbing some play by play with fake sound effects ? LOL
It was at this round of the Transit me series that writes that cost ahead one of his worst accidents. Fifth gear hauling ass done one of the straightaways front end on a Suzuki snapped off pitching him to his face at top speed. He was in bad shape and with that bill started work on the project that became known as The Bell Moto Star.❤
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I think I see the both german MotoCrosser Weil and Bauer--it is?
I know Adolf Weil was at Livermore in 1975. Hans Maisch may have been there as well. In 1975, there were fewer European riders. Racing were DeCoster, Wolsink, Weil, Kring and a handful of others.
kieth was tony d mech......hannah wasnt even in the big leagues yet.....
I saw Hannah race at RedBud in '76, which I believe was his first season as a pro. He had that water-cooled 125 that was so much faster than every other bike. He left the rest of the field so far behind that it almost didn't seem possible - this was incredibly disappointing to me as a Marty Smith fan attending my first big national race ever. A year or two later while attending the national race down in Missouri, my family and I learned that were staying at the motel serving as race headquarters. Hannah was riding a bmx bike around in the hotel, bunny-hopping over those who were willing to lay down for him. He wound up pausing to let me take a photo of him on the bike, which I thought was pretty cool
This is the city, Watsonville, California. Many people come here for the beautiful ocean views, the sweet sweet tamales around railroad ave. Several types of ag products are distributed wether you like it or not. This city is chop suey, tamale, sopas. refried beans etc. Sometimes theres an ill wind that blows no gooooood. This wind creates a Blenzall (green label) trail soooooo sweet and scientific that a new idea is burned into the boys asshole heart. The YZ Monoshock. My name is Friday, I carry a fork. Also I carry a badge with one end that is also a fork. My partner Bill Gannon waits in said car licking his cats butt. It was a cold blustery afternoon on the Pajaro River levee.
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Just before motocross transitioned into gross commercialism.
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Good film but I HATE the ROTHCHILDS DEMON FAMILY!