You have loyal followers,because the two of you are genuine people. And people care about you,not to mention the high quality videos! Thanks for your hard work.✌🏻
I was general astonished with the quality work you both have extended to date. The expense seems very low and the enjoyment we receive each week of your epic restore is outstanding. Thanks for the update!
It's really nice that you bring us along with you, and thank you. But it all boils down to, are you 2 pleased with the way everything is going? Keep it up, I love it. Terry.
I think you both have done a remarkable job and you both have great attitudes and sense of humor. I enjoy watching you both work together. You make a good team. The boat will something special. I love watching the videos. I look forward to each one. I am impressed. Sending you love from Italy, as always, Katie
I appreciate that! There is something rewarding about taking something old, unloved, "left of rubbish," and returning it to something usable. Hopefully we can complete the challenge. Cheers for watching 🙂
hey guys thanks for the mid week video, cost is a part of the experience but the rewards outweigh it, gaining new skills and experience along the way and a cool boat at the end also to be able to do it with a partner is awesome. much love guys
Hi you two. I follow you because you take most of your work in stride. I’m refitting a 1979 sail boat with a very low budget. Mostly used reclaimed parts. I wish I was there to dive into this Bins with Stu. I find a lot of great parts on boats being salvaged. Keep up the work and progress. Nothing like sitting at anchorage and knowing you made it happen with sweat and tears. Don’t forget to breathe now and then. Take good care. Rick in California.
🤠 Muy bien Marina, ustedes cuidan muy bien su economia, y saben hacer las cosas baratas y divertidas, sigan adelante, me encanta verlos, y lo que llevan gastado no es nada, si estuvieran en Norway o en europa, seria 5 veces mas 👍, Saludos desde Noruega Cesar .
So when they are done they will have spent what they would have spent for a used boat but... The parts in their boat will all be near-new condition and ready to go for a while. A used boat in a low or moderate price range is most likely a collection of nearly worn out pieces. Things like tanks and wiring and so on have a limited life span so you have to refit every so many years. Some can stretch it out to maybe 20yrs but others do it on a much shorter span e.g. 10yrs.
I remember I found your channel in the suggestions by TH-cam and it was the first video where you were in the yard looking at derelict sailboats and Stewart came across seabird. As he climbed aboard and took the viewer down inside I must admit that I thought he was completely crazy or mad as you call it. I knew that I had to subscribe and watch this wild adventure. I believe you had less than 10k subscribers then and by the time you had gone to the mountains for your winter work season the channel was growing quickly. Seeing the old footage of how seabird used to look inside and how she leaked and yet you both were determined and tuff enough to keep pushing forward as you lived in seabird.. you're both very entertaining people who are putting out some great content. Which I'm sure that by the time you get seabird ready for her maiden voyage you will have enough of a following & hopefully sponsors to make money showing us the world. What an amazing journey your videos will show. Buying a $1 derelict sailboat and breathing new life into her and just imagine when you are much older thinking back on this really cool experience. Thank you Stewart & Marina for taking me along with you and thank you for taking the extra time to make and upload your wonderful content.. it's pretty cool to have a occasionally midweek video and still have my favorite Friday upload from Sailing Seabird!!!
Excellent video and costs breakdown. What you are very modest about is your resourcefulness: your bin-diving skills! You have amassed an impressive stock of...just about everything! Well done.
Very interesting. I imagine this will be somewhere about 1/3 of the eventual cost so that will be a fine purchase for a boat you will know inside and out. You are two smart cookies!
Love your channel and progress,everything takes time to accomplish and your journey is worth it, after all, it's your home and we all appreciate you sharing,I personally love learning other nations customs and foods,living in the US I really appreciate accents and learning about different cultures and traditions if you'd ever care to share one of your visits back home we would all enjoy the foods and family if you choose to share,getting to experience a bit of Greece was cool in older episodes, you speak English very well and I personally enjoy sometimes when you forget the exact term or phrase in English, you are fluent in your native tongue and do an amazing job with English as well ,thats a great accomplishment. Love your teamwork and resourcefulness.
It's nice that you are making an inventory of your consumption, I learn a lot from your films. I live in Denmark and can see that you spend a lot of money on everything for the boat. I have the market in Germany under control, I will probably use my energies on this market and save on the project. Kind regards Peer
Wow, when you think about it, the money you've spent so far is incredibly cheep for a boat of this size. Also, you know exactly where all the money has gone, and you've both done a quality job on the restoration. I know it's been hard at times for you both, however I know it will be worth it on the end. xx
I have renovated several boats, when savings are to be made, the garage is the next most expensive, for storing everything we collect as collectors. Being in good time with obtaining and always thinking ahead is the most important task, always search in containers and the like, there is a lot of money to save, my experience tells me.
You folks are amazing!! I knew that you were doing things on the "cheap" and being frugal with your purchases.... I am so proud of your accomplishments and I know that you will finish this refit in like manner! If you are familiar with YABA in Brasil, you know how much better off you are and they took 3 1/2 years to completely rebuild enough to splash! I thoroughly enjoy your videos! I wish you great success.. 👍👍👍
The boat is really coming along and looks so good. This is a huge undertaking and you guys are doing great! It looks way, way better since you started!
I think you are doing an incredible job for the modest amount of money you have invested in the boat. The labor cost to have someone else do all the work you have done would be a huge expense. You are both working hard for the dream. Thanks for sharing your journey. 😊💖⛵🐬
Sad that I missed the live premiere, but so very nice to see you, today! You’re doing a FANTASTIC job. (We’re not keeping track of what we’ve spent on our boat. 😆 Nope.)
Thanks for being so frank about your expenses , I've always wanted to have a sailboat but I figured the cost of being on the hard would be too expensive , maybe not !
congratulations , it takes skill and good mindset to get to were you are, not everyone can pull this off, you guys are well on the way to having a good live aboard seaworthy boat ,keep it all takes time ,there is no limit to what you could spend on a boat but if can do it for around 25 thousand and if you were to cost the labour and work hours youd have a very expensive boat maybe 4 times the value
You two are doing great on expenses. It would be very easy to double or triple that amount you have spent to get this far. I’m looking forward to you two enjoying Seabird on anchor in the Mediterranean or Caribbean !
So now I'm really surprised. I would have actually thought that you had already put a lot more money into the old boat, but apparently that's wrong. I wish you the best of luck that there aren't any nasty surprises that affect the budget and I'll keep my fingers crossed for you .
Your not doing to bad as you had the boat cheep to start off with,I've seen a lot of boats that aren't as good as yours for more than you have spent on your boat.so your doing well I think.keep up the good work .😊
I spent a house in Germany just for boats,but it was worthwhile. It will pay off if you live on the boat and work for at least 10years. I have nothing to regret. Keep up your project. Adam
I've always understood that poly to poly is a bad bond. That epoxy to poly is a stronger bond. So that repairing a poly boat, you should use epoxy. (edit) Poly is great for initial fabrication, its the additions after curing or years that epoxy wins out. :)
I bought my boat almost three years ago (03/21) and spent about twice the price aditionally. So i calculate the same for you and the result is: 3 €. Problem solved 🙂
@@johnnyseagull29 Sailing Yorkshireman is loitering around the near by Calanques looking for a free floating-be to take over and do up. Abandoned Fiberglass boats are a major problem in France and in the UK to a degree... There are sites and companies that try to re home some of them just to stop them having to go into landfill for the next 400 yrs.
I wish we could buy new. But, certain new things on an old boat, look out of place. Plus we can't afford new things 😂😅🤣 So we buy second hand, service it and fit it. It's a long process... Cheers for watching 🙂
We bought a bare hull from Rawson boat builders we built a flush deck for strength very very strong and over built I was 24 when the project started and completely a novice but 7 years later quite good at glassing etc keep up the good work Amiga and Amigo
Hi you two! I like your videos a lot and I am following you since the beging 😊 keep on going! Be careful with the screws on the lid of the fuel tank. If you screw them too often in or out, or too tight it will leak. And there is no easy way to seal it again because it is all plastic. Why I know this? My boat has a similar one and I can not seal it so far 😅
Very interesting video, Marina. First, the epoxy: definitely worth the money in our opinion, too. It has become frightfully expensive, though never was cheap. The fillers that go in it are pricey, too. Good marine ply is expensive, but the quality stuff is what you need. Same goes for the mast base. You are lucky your viewers are helping with electricals and peripherals. We found that consumables like abrasives, thinners, cheap brushes, mask filters, peel-ply and the never-ending supply of gloves really adds up. I thought last week that the "blue rolls" were a great gift. That's the kind of expense that is easily overlooked. The 13.000 euros, plus the huge uncosted labour has made a big difference to your 1 euro purchase, and being canny with your second-hand buys and refurbishments is definitely helping you to stay within budget without sacrificing function and appearance. Congratulations!
BTW we generally found that wearing out cheaper electrical tools rather than wrecking expensive ones, was the best way to go when creating the epoxy and glass dust that are so hard on motors. Have lost track of how many electrical tools had new brushes, replacement rubber and velcro pads, even new switches, so they were resuscitated to live another day. When you get to the fit out, you'll appreciate your good tools.
I would have thought it would be more, but then i suppose they aren't paying for everything and they do buy alot second hand. Though it would be interesting to include the storage container and yard fees particularly considering they aren't living on it so it is in effect additional expense
You guys are definitely doing really well time wise and cost wise, well done indeed, please don’t ever think you have to justify how long this job is taking or feel like you need to take short cuts to speed things up. I’ve mentioned it before but rebuilding a boat is a huge job and it will take as long as it takes and, in my experienced opinion, you are doing better than most. Also for what it’s worth: I’m sure you are already aware but you are doing the right thing with using the epoxy resin rather than polyester, you can have confidence that the epoxy will stick to everything (when properly prepared) whereas the polyester will be questionable if you are not sure what you are using it on. Although polyester can be used over epoxy (with limitations as you know given that you have used it) the general rule is that epoxy will stick to polyester but not the other way round.
going forwards, and assuming you would be interested in saving a couple of euros on the plywood : good exterior grade plywood is perfectly acceptable for interior work. (i would even say that it is acceptable to build a hull out of it, specially if it is a powerboat and you apply appropriate building materials/techniques) if you get the plywood straight from the distributor whom can guide you thru the selection process. Even within exterior grade plywood there are several different grades. The main difference between those and marine ply, apart from weight, is the amount of voids in each sheet that composes the ply sheet itself, and the glue. In some cases, due to aesthetics, you can also make a case for the final layer which will be showing. The glue part is easy: it can be waterproof (which is what you are after) or water resistant (not ideal, but location dependant). Having said all this you can still go for a water resistant glue if its for an area which is highly unlikely to ever get wet and if you take an extra step and laminate a thin layer of woven roven on top, to waterproof the section you are using. Its a boat after all and we cant just expect things to be dry when surrounded by water at all times ahahaha congrats on your resourcefulness!
The marine plywood has better glue and no voids so it is stronger and holds up to the moist marine air better. Good quality plywood for cabinets is strong but will be about the same price as marine plywood so there isn't much savings even without the resin. For things like an overhead you could probably get away with regular plywood if you sealed it with varnish.
@@danielboughton3624 it’s just the glue that different and a preserveint that is different is for making wooden boats that are in the water metal and fibreglass are different as the hull is not in contact with the water
That is quite inexpensive. But what about the fiberglass? Did you include the cost of the fiberglass in the epoxy purchase? That reminds me of what it was like for me to rebuild the 1936 wooden boat I bought in 2007. When I added everything all up at the end it came to a bit over $50K USD plus several thousand hours of my time. I think you paid a lot less for your engine than I did, but I did buy a new Volvo-Penta diesel. Great work so far. I try not to think about how much I have spent on my Allied 36 ketch so far, but last year I spent $4,000 USD just on soft goods (dodger and one sail).
Are you going to put a coin under the mast when its stepped as its tradition to do so? love watching you guys someday I will do the same and have leant so much
Could you get the solar set up and buy a couple of batteries, an inverter, and do away with the electric costs? If you double your spend so far, it is still a bargain boat 👍
That was the basic plan for the winter. We got offered this boat to stay on whilst we are working on the inside, and it all sort of happened. Once we are back on Seabird we should be able to go off grid. Cheers for watching 🙂
I don't think 100 euros a month is much for food. Here in the UK we spend much more than that. Our electricity bill is down to about £80 a month but only because we had solar panels installed and a cheap night rate (for an electric car). If you bring the whole thing in under 20,000 euros I think you will have done exceptionally well.
I don't think you could have done it any cheaper than you have and I agree with you about the epoxy. You can put epoxy over anything but you can't put polyester over epoxy, well done.
This just goes to show that these sorts of projects dont have to be expensive. Yeah, everything costs money, and a $1 boat never actually costs $1, but if you've got the tenacity and smarts to figure it all out and do it yourself, your gonna end up with a great boat that's still way cheaper than a new or lightly used one.
I wonder if buying a small generator to power your tools would save money on electricity. Combining that with your solar panels, maybe you could eliminate grid electricity?
Wow, we are paying ~$50/mo for power. But different country with mostly hydro power. The rest seems about right though. I am looking at cheaper epoxy for my next project.
I don’t think you mentioned the engine, did you get that free? Ah, I just remembered it’s stuff that’s been installed 🤦♂️ Very interesting anyway and nice and clearly presented
about what i expected, we spent that much just redoing the hull... Now she is just sitting on a Mooring as we ran out of money thanks to a break in that cleaned us out.. Cant wait to be able to get back to work on her, I so miss it...
Well, it seems to me that the only thing you could do is doing a 'bottom line calculation' on the expenditure list. Like you said 'a few things could have been done cheaper', but at the cost of reduced quality. And buying on the cheap often ends up being expensive, like with the sanders. So all in all you couldn't have done much better. 👍
Personally I don't think you have to explain yourselves and your expenses. Your boat, your channel, your business. I am absolutely shocked at the price of electric where you are. What about letting us know what materials you need or are on the lookout for, the iroko for instance I have some leftover from a job I did a while back and it would have cost about 10-15 euro to post it to you. I live and work on or near the sea and often work on boats of all sizes so discarded items often present themselves.
You have loyal followers,because the two of you are genuine people. And people care about you,not to mention the high quality videos! Thanks for your hard work.✌🏻
I was general astonished with the quality work you both have extended to date. The expense seems very low and the enjoyment we receive each week of your epic restore is outstanding. Thanks for the update!
Our pleasure!
Cheers for watching 🙂
It sounds like you are careful with your budget. Thx for bringing us along. 😊😊😊 John Ken
You bet :) We try anyway...
You have both done very well to have succeeded on that balance of €6000, well done to you both!
Cheers :)
You two are Wonderful people !!!! So proud of you ! You're doing a great job on the Seabird....Good luck !
Thank you so much!
We are glad you enjoy our videos.
Cheers for watching 🙂
It's really nice that you bring us along with you, and thank you. But it all boils down to, are you 2 pleased with the way everything is going? Keep it up, I love it. Terry.
I think you both have done a remarkable job and you both have great attitudes and sense of humor. I enjoy watching you both work together. You make a good team. The boat will something special. I love watching the videos. I look forward to each one. I am impressed. Sending you love from Italy, as always, Katie
Not a bad cost so far Marina you and stu would have to be happy with that 😄😄😄👍👍👍
You have accomplished so much on less than $7000!
Look forward every week for a video from You SEABIRD...KEEP UP THE GOOD JOB....Tally HOOO, MATES!!!!
More to come!
Cheers for watching 🙂
wonderful videos such honest people I wish you all the best
Love this channel. People making something crappy into something great!
I appreciate that!
There is something rewarding about taking something old, unloved, "left of rubbish," and returning it to something usable.
Hopefully we can complete the challenge.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Hello Team Seabird. You are doing remarkable well on very little and still enjoying the journey. Keep it up and thanks for taking us with you. ❤❤❤
hey guys thanks for the mid week video, cost is a part of the experience but the rewards outweigh it, gaining new skills and experience along the way and a cool boat at the end also to be able to do it with a partner is awesome. much love guys
What a great job you guys are doing, keep up the good work !
Another great video
Glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Great Job, Great Project. Great Team. Wish you he best.
Enjoyed this accounting video. You have a great screen presence very entertaining.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Cheers for watching 🙂
Hi you two. I follow you because you take most of your work in stride. I’m refitting a 1979 sail boat with a very low budget. Mostly used reclaimed parts. I wish I was there to dive into this Bins with Stu. I find a lot of great parts on boats being salvaged. Keep up the work and progress. Nothing like sitting at anchorage and knowing you made it happen with sweat and tears. Don’t forget to breathe now and then. Take good care. Rick in California.
Hiya Rick,
Good luck with your refit.
Thank you for your words of encouragement.
Cheers for watching 🙂
For what you have spent so far, I think you have done one helluva job on Seabird. I Enjoy your videos, the best of luck to you.
Thank you very much!
Cheers for watching 🙂
Thanks for crunching the numbers. I’m a faithful watcher.
You are so welcome.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers for watching 🙂
well done with the costing a very good result keep it up
Your new "job " has given all us a great deal of good vibes . cheers
Really well done! Moving forward to completion! 👍
🤠 Muy bien Marina, ustedes cuidan muy bien su economia, y saben hacer las cosas baratas y divertidas, sigan adelante, me encanta verlos, y lo que llevan gastado no es nada, si estuvieran en Norway o en europa, seria 5 veces mas 👍, Saludos desde Noruega Cesar .
Thank you
It’s good to know prices of things, I’m interested in getting a older boat 🛥️
So when they are done they will have spent what they would have spent for a used boat but... The parts in their boat will all be near-new condition and ready to go for a while. A used boat in a low or moderate price range is most likely a collection of nearly worn out pieces. Things like tanks and wiring and so on have a limited life span so you have to refit every so many years. Some can stretch it out to maybe 20yrs but others do it on a much shorter span e.g. 10yrs.
I remember I found your channel in the suggestions by TH-cam and it was the first video where you were in the yard looking at derelict sailboats and Stewart came across seabird. As he climbed aboard and took the viewer down inside I must admit that I thought he was completely crazy or mad as you call it. I knew that I had to subscribe and watch this wild adventure. I believe you had less than 10k subscribers then and by the time you had gone to the mountains for your winter work season the channel was growing quickly. Seeing the old footage of how seabird used to look inside and how she leaked and yet you both were determined and tuff enough to keep pushing forward as you lived in seabird.. you're both very entertaining people who are putting out some great content. Which I'm sure that by the time you get seabird ready for her maiden voyage you will have enough of a following & hopefully sponsors to make money showing us the world. What an amazing journey your videos will show. Buying a $1 derelict sailboat and breathing new life into her and just imagine when you are much older thinking back on this really cool experience. Thank you Stewart & Marina for taking me along with you and thank you for taking the extra time to make and upload your wonderful content.. it's pretty cool to have a occasionally midweek video and still have my favorite Friday upload from Sailing Seabird!!!
Excellent video and costs breakdown. What you are very modest about is your resourcefulness: your bin-diving skills! You have amassed an impressive stock of...just about everything! Well done.
Thank you.
Make do and mend!
Cheers for watching 🙂
Thank you Marina for your explanation of your expenditure on seabird " We enjoyed you very much xxx see you next time ❤xxx
Very interesting. I imagine this will be somewhere about 1/3 of the eventual cost so that will be a fine purchase for a boat you will know inside and out. You are two smart cookies!
Love your channel and progress,everything takes time to accomplish and your journey is worth it, after all, it's your home and we all appreciate you sharing,I personally love learning other nations customs and foods,living in the US I really appreciate accents and learning about different cultures and traditions if you'd ever care to share one of your visits back home we would all enjoy the foods and family if you choose to share,getting to experience a bit of Greece was cool in older episodes, you speak English very well and I personally enjoy sometimes when you forget the exact term or phrase in English, you are fluent in your native tongue and do an amazing job with English as well ,thats a great accomplishment. Love your teamwork and resourcefulness.
It's nice that you are making an inventory of your consumption, I learn a lot from your films. I live in Denmark and can see that you spend a lot of money on everything for the boat. I have the market in Germany under control, I will probably use my energies on this market and save on the project. Kind regards Peer
Wow, when you think about it, the money you've spent so far is incredibly cheep for a boat of this size. Also, you know exactly where all the money has gone, and you've both done a quality job on the restoration. I know it's been hard at times for you both, however I know it will be worth it on the end. xx
Everything is worth it in the end.
It's getting to the end...
Cheers for watching 🙂
You are doing a great job.
You have done so much with the budget, well done. Yachts are anything but cheap, it's going to be a great ocean vessel
I would of thought it would have been more but hat's off to you both. Also helps having a scout in the bins I even do it now lol 😊
Stig of dump!
What can I say, I love a treasure hunt.
Cheers for watching 🙂
I believe you have done very well in spending money wisely and this will go a long way on the final cost of putting the vessel in the water.
Can only spend what you have 🤣
Cheers for watching 🙂
I'm not surprised at how much you have spent but thanks for the analysis.
We were a little surprised at how much we've spent on resin.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Very interesting and well explain. Not too much extensive for thé moment. Normal that wood and époxy are dominant. Bon courage pour la suite.
wow!!!!!!!!! thatś amazing!!!
Thank you.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Well done on keeping the project going for €6,000! And you're doing a fantastic job, too! Muy bien!
Thank you very much!
Hope you're well.
We were a bit shocked.
We didn't include the shed stuff...
Cheers for watching 🙂
I have renovated several boats, when savings are to be made, the garage is the next most expensive, for storing everything we collect as collectors. Being in good time with obtaining and always thinking ahead is the most important task, always search in containers and the like, there is a lot of money to save, my experience tells me.
You folks are amazing!! I knew that you were doing things on the "cheap" and being frugal with your purchases.... I am so proud of your accomplishments and I know that you will finish this refit in like manner! If you are familiar with YABA in Brasil, you know how much better off you are and they took 3 1/2 years to completely rebuild enough to splash! I thoroughly enjoy your videos! I wish you great success.. 👍👍👍
The boat is really coming along and looks so good. This is a huge undertaking and you guys are doing great! It looks way, way better since you started!
The word you were searching for was Consumables ...gloves brushes paper rolls ..etc.
Done a very good job so far, just shows what can be done
I think you are doing an incredible job for the modest amount of money you have invested in the boat. The labor cost to have someone else do all the work you have done would be a huge expense. You are both working hard for the dream. Thanks for sharing your journey. 😊💖⛵🐬
Sad that I missed the live premiere, but so very nice to see you, today! You’re doing a FANTASTIC job. (We’re not keeping track of what we’ve spent on our boat. 😆 Nope.)
wow thats way lower than expected, you guy are doing a great job, always enjoy ur vids!!
Thank you. Glad you enjoy.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Jullie zijn goed bezig met de boot ik wens jullie veel vaar plezier groetjes uit Nederland van rene
Thanks for being so frank about your expenses , I've always wanted to have a sailboat but I figured the cost of being on the hard would be too expensive , maybe not !
Doing a great job Buena suerte
Thanks.
Cheers for watching 🙂
Well done on the budget. Thanks for sharing and keep up the great work.
Great work and channel.
Thank you very much!
Cheers for watching 🙂
Great job. I know anything boat related is expensive. I’m building a small wooden boat and it is expensive as well.
congratulations , it takes skill and good mindset to get to were you are, not everyone can pull this off, you guys are well on the way to having a good live aboard seaworthy boat ,keep it all takes time ,there is no limit to what you could spend on a boat but if can do it for around 25 thousand and if you were to cost the labour and work hours youd have a very expensive boat maybe 4 times the value
You two are doing great on expenses. It would be very easy to double or triple that amount you have spent to get this far. I’m looking forward to you two enjoying Seabird on anchor in the Mediterranean or Caribbean !
So now I'm really surprised. I would have actually thought that you had already put a lot more money into the old boat, but apparently that's wrong. I wish you the best of luck that there aren't any nasty surprises that affect the budget and I'll keep my fingers crossed for you .
Your not doing to bad as you had the boat cheep to start off with,I've seen a lot of boats that aren't as good as yours for more than you have spent on your boat.so your doing well I think.keep up the good work .😊
I spent a house in Germany just for boats,but it was worthwhile. It will pay off if you live on the boat and work for at least 10years. I have nothing to regret. Keep up your project. Adam
Great job giving details.
I've always understood that poly to poly is a bad bond. That epoxy to poly is a stronger bond. So that repairing a poly boat, you should use epoxy. (edit) Poly is great for initial fabrication, its the additions after curing or years that epoxy wins out. :)
Good job! Interesting to hear about what it really costs. I expected higher.
I bought my boat almost three years ago (03/21) and spent about twice the price aditionally. So i calculate the same for you and the result is: 3 €. Problem solved 🙂
We wished you were right 😅
😂... Classic ..
Yayyyy....... I'm off to buy an old boat now. Wish me luck.
@@johnnyseagull29
Sailing Yorkshireman is loitering around the near by Calanques looking for a free floating-be to take over and do up. Abandoned Fiberglass boats are a major problem in France and in the UK to a degree... There are sites and companies that try to re home some of them just to stop them
having to go into landfill for the next 400 yrs.
Cheaper than buying new guys
I wish we could buy new.
But, certain new things on an old boat, look out of place.
Plus we can't afford new things 😂😅🤣
So we buy second hand, service it and fit it. It's a long process...
Cheers for watching 🙂
We built our 30 ft heavy displacement cutter 79 thru 86 epoxy 33 dollars per gallon long time ago Amiga! Polyester resin 55 gallon barrel 400 dollars
No way.
How was it building your own from scratch?
Cheers for watching 🙂
We bought a bare hull from Rawson boat builders we built a flush deck for strength very very strong and over built I was 24 when the project started and completely a novice but 7 years later quite good at glassing etc keep up the good work Amiga and Amigo
⛵️ ⛵️ ⛵️ Phil...
Thanks Phil :)
Would love too have the guts to do what you guys are doing
great summary, i think im in a bit deeper on my way smaller boat - im scared to calculate :-D
You and me both!
But it makes for good viewing.
😂😅🤣
Boats...
Cheers for watching 🙂
Lykke til videre!
Hi you two!
I like your videos a lot and I am following you since the beging 😊 keep on going!
Be careful with the screws on the lid of the fuel tank. If you screw them too often in or out, or too tight it will leak. And there is no easy way to seal it again because it is all plastic.
Why I know this? My boat has a similar one and I can not seal it so far 😅
Good to know! Thanks.
We are glad you enjoy.
Cheers for watching 🙂
I'm having a good time, thank you! You left off the cost of fiberglass, maybe in the cost of resin?
That is correct.
Total fibreglass cost and epoxy.
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Very interesting video, Marina. First, the epoxy: definitely worth the money in our opinion, too. It has become frightfully expensive, though never was cheap. The fillers that go in it are pricey, too. Good marine ply is expensive, but the quality stuff is what you need. Same goes for the mast base. You are lucky your viewers are helping with electricals and peripherals. We found that consumables like abrasives, thinners, cheap brushes, mask filters, peel-ply and the never-ending supply of gloves really adds up. I thought last week that the "blue rolls" were a great gift. That's the kind of expense that is easily overlooked. The 13.000 euros, plus the huge uncosted labour has made a big difference to your 1 euro purchase, and being canny with your second-hand buys and refurbishments is definitely helping you to stay within budget without sacrificing function and appearance. Congratulations!
BTW we generally found that wearing out cheaper electrical tools rather than wrecking expensive ones, was the best way to go when creating the epoxy and glass dust that are so hard on motors. Have lost track of how many electrical tools had new brushes, replacement rubber and velcro pads, even new switches, so they were resuscitated to live another day. When you get to the fit out, you'll appreciate your good tools.
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I would have thought it would be more, but then i suppose they aren't paying for everything and they do buy alot second hand. Though it would be interesting to include the storage container and yard fees particularly considering they aren't living on it so it is in effect additional expense
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You guys are definitely doing really well time wise and cost wise, well done indeed, please don’t ever think you have to justify how long this job is taking or feel like you need to take short cuts to speed things up. I’ve mentioned it before but rebuilding a boat is a huge job and it will take as long as it takes and, in my experienced opinion, you are doing better than most. Also for what it’s worth: I’m sure you are already aware but you are doing the right thing with using the epoxy resin rather than polyester, you can have confidence that the epoxy will stick to everything (when properly prepared) whereas the polyester will be questionable if you are not sure what you are using it on. Although polyester can be used over epoxy (with limitations as you know given that you have used it) the general rule is that epoxy will stick to polyester but not the other way round.
going forwards, and assuming you would be interested in saving a couple of euros on the plywood : good exterior grade plywood is perfectly acceptable for interior work. (i would even say that it is acceptable to build a hull out of it, specially if it is a powerboat and you apply appropriate building materials/techniques) if you get the plywood straight from the distributor whom can guide you thru the selection process.
Even within exterior grade plywood there are several different grades.
The main difference between those and marine ply, apart from weight, is the amount of voids in each sheet that composes the ply sheet itself, and the glue.
In some cases, due to aesthetics, you can also make a case for the final layer which will be showing.
The glue part is easy: it can be waterproof (which is what you are after) or water resistant (not ideal, but location dependant).
Having said all this you can still go for a water resistant glue if its for an area which is highly unlikely to ever get wet and if you take an extra step and laminate a thin layer of woven roven on top, to waterproof the section you are using. Its a boat after all and we cant just expect things to be dry when surrounded by water at all times ahahaha
congrats on your resourcefulness!
Did I missed the engine ? or was it already with the boat.. I guessed 15K$ without it. Well done. Love your channel
We only included pieces on the boat.
Engine, instrumentation, winches etc are yet to be installed.
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You can yous normal plywood if it seald in resin for interior
The marine plywood has better glue and no voids so it is stronger and holds up to the moist marine air better. Good quality plywood for cabinets is strong but will be about the same price as marine plywood so there isn't much savings even without the resin. For things like an overhead you could probably get away with regular plywood if you sealed it with varnish.
We still try to seal up the wood. I'm pretty sure it will last a good few years.
When you see what we've taken out...
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@@danielboughton3624 it’s just the glue that different and a preserveint that is different is for making wooden boats that are in the water metal and fibreglass are different as the hull is not in contact with the water
Yous should have got the wood and apoxy resin in the uk and took it over in a van
That is quite inexpensive. But what about the fiberglass? Did you include the cost of the fiberglass in the epoxy purchase? That reminds me of what it was like for me to rebuild the 1936 wooden boat I bought in 2007. When I added everything all up at the end it came to a bit over $50K USD plus several thousand hours of my time. I think you paid a lot less for your engine than I did, but I did buy a new Volvo-Penta diesel. Great work so far.
I try not to think about how much I have spent on my Allied 36 ketch so far, but last year I spent $4,000 USD just on soft goods (dodger and one sail).
Are you going to put a coin under the mast when its stepped as its tradition to do so? love watching you guys someday I will do the same and have leant so much
Could you get the solar set up and buy a couple of batteries, an inverter, and do away with the electric costs? If you double your spend so far, it is still a bargain boat 👍
That was the basic plan for the winter.
We got offered this boat to stay on whilst we are working on the inside, and it all sort of happened.
Once we are back on Seabird we should be able to go off grid.
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bargain bargain bargain!!!tiptop
We'll see...
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I don't think 100 euros a month is much for food. Here in the UK we spend much more than that. Our electricity bill is down to about £80 a month but only because we had solar panels installed and a cheap night rate (for an electric car). If you bring the whole thing in under 20,000 euros I think you will have done exceptionally well.
I don't think you could have done it any cheaper than you have and I agree with you about the epoxy. You can put epoxy over anything but you can't put polyester over epoxy, well done.
This just goes to show that these sorts of projects dont have to be expensive. Yeah, everything costs money, and a $1 boat never actually costs $1, but if you've got the tenacity and smarts to figure it all out and do it yourself, your gonna end up with a great boat that's still way cheaper than a new or lightly used one.
Great job at managing the budget! Did you mention the engine?
Not yet, as its yet to be installed.
I think all in we paid about €5k for the engine, roughly.
I might do some sums quickly.
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It looks like you’ll have a beautiful boat for under £20K. That’s outstanding!
@@SailingSeabird How can I contact you? I may be able to help out with some items.
Hi Tim! You can send us an email at: sailingseabird@mail.com
I wonder if buying a small generator to power your tools would save money on electricity. Combining that with your solar panels, maybe you could eliminate grid electricity?
Hello maria &stu the weather in uk cold epoxy taking ages to go off
Hi Martin! We feel you... had the same all over winter but temperature is perfect for epoxying here now. Good luck :)
The experience of working on the boat is invaluable
Wow, we are paying ~$50/mo for power. But different country with mostly hydro power. The rest seems about right though. I am looking at cheaper epoxy for my next project.
I don’t think you mentioned the engine, did you get that free? Ah, I just remembered it’s stuff that’s been installed 🤦♂️ Very interesting anyway and nice and clearly presented
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We'll give it six months and make another video.
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@@SailingSeabird At least I was paying attention 😁
about what i expected, we spent that much just redoing the hull... Now she is just sitting on a Mooring as we ran out of money thanks to a break in that cleaned us out.. Cant wait to be able to get back to work on her, I so miss it...
Did you mention the glass mats you used when laminating all the stuff?? They don’t come cheap either…
The epoxy price includes all the cloth used.
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Well, it seems to me that the only thing you could do is doing a 'bottom line calculation' on the expenditure list.
Like you said 'a few things could have been done cheaper', but at the cost of reduced quality.
And buying on the cheap often ends up being expensive, like with the sanders.
So all in all you couldn't have done much better. 👍
€400 a month in food for two people is a reasonable price. In the USA, that costs more.
We try to be sensible...
That might not include beer 🤣
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Great video. I must've missed it, but didn't you guys buy a Yanmar at some point?
So many have asked.
We didn't include the price as its yet to be installed.
Around €5k on the engine.
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Did you include the engine? Travel expenses?Insurance? Is it required by the yard?
3rd party liability is :)
As we said on the video this doesn't include the bits yet to be installed. We'll do another one once the boat is finished :)
@@SailingSeabird right... I jumped in on a live vlog so missed the withholding disclosure.
Personally I don't think you have to explain yourselves and your expenses. Your boat, your channel, your business. I am absolutely shocked at the price of electric where you are.
What about letting us know what materials you need or are on the lookout for, the iroko for instance I have some leftover from a job I did a while back and it would have cost about 10-15 euro to post it to you. I live and work on or near the sea and often work on boats of all sizes so discarded items often present themselves.
is the fiberglass included in the resin costs?
Yes, that includes all cloth used.
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