MALIGNANT NARCISSISTS: They're closer than you think
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- How can recognizing and mitigating the psychological effects of toxic leadership protect people from regressing and aligning with dangerous leaders before it's too late?
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Understanding the effects of toxic leaders is crucial for fostering healthy organizational and societal dynamics. Malignant narcissism and large group regression can lead to destructive leadership, but by integrating psychological insights into leadership training and policy formulation, we can create environments that resist such toxicity. Education, ethical leadership, and community engagement are powerful tools that can counteract the negative influence of toxic leaders. Through informed action and collective effort, we can build resilient communities and organizations, ensuring a healthier and more harmonious society for all.
Prepare to discover what specific behaviors and traits define toxic leadership and its impact on group dynamics and individual well-being, how to identify signs of malignant narcissism in leaders and implement effective strategies to counteract their negative influence, which leadership styles foster healthy organizational cultures and promote emotional intelligence and ethical practices, whether your current organizational environment is affected by toxic leadership and what steps you can take to initiate positive changes, why understanding the psychological effects of leadership styles is crucial for personal development and the overall health of organizations…and so much more.
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I just want to stop by and say I found this podcast while dealing with a bout of long covid insomnia. I am now over that but still here. The intro music, Joseph’s soothing voice, and the fantastic research and topics are so wonderful and needed. Thank you so much. I am forever grateful to you three.
I have to listen to it again and again and again. So enlighting. Thank you.
This was such a brilliant explication of toxic leadership and the risks of falling under its spell. I also actually experienced a very unexpected healing moment during the conversation when Joseph took the time to passionately articulate the problem of toxic workplaces and the differences between aggression and healthy assertion - thank you Joseph! Your words were incredibly affirming to me in regard to a recent personal experience, and in hearing what you said I instantly felt a lot of weight lift off me. It really is amazing what a lucid description of something can do for the soul.
This is one of the most important episodes you’ve released. Thank you for your ability to stay in the middle of it and define it so eloquently and precisely ❤
The ant jar analogy is just brilliant
More of this please. We really need to understand the global collective conscious and what's steering the unconscious. Look at this swing to far right dictators the world over. So many tyrants and so many victims...
This is so relevant in our present time. Jung spoke about this extensively in his collected works. It is interesting meditating on the psychology of the process, but I feel examining the historical parallels are also important. Polybius and Gibbons keanly observed this process in the rise and fall of Rome.
Well said.
Important topic in our time
17:00 "We divide into Us and Them..." (thanks Deb) This reminds me of a quote I heard from Annie Lamott: "You know you've created God in your own image when He hates all the same people you do." This topic is SOOOOO important, it's at the very core of the evoluttion of our cultures and a primary driver behind all our greatest suffering, modern Western culture being no exception but the exemplar. There has never been a better time to address these dynamics, but if we are indeed an intelligent and rational species should we not have resolved this long before now? EVOLVE ALREADY!, the future of life on Earth depends on it.
Thanks so much Deb, Lisa, and Joseph; this is a complex subject examined well through the Jungian lens.
I have been thinking a lot more lately about the relationship between the mechanisms of our consumer culture here in the United States, especially the function and purpose of advertising, and whether or not those mechanisms prepare our brains to be more vulnerable to other forms of propaganda and toxic leadership, as you describe. Advertising is ubiquitous in our society. A person can certainly learn about how it functions and steel themselves against it, but due to advertising's ubiquitousness, the counterbalance of steeling oneself against must also be ubiquitous, lest we fall prey to its manipulation. I see a lot of parallels in this discussion.
Yes, one day...One day, I hope I will be seen as the person I am and not the person people's fears tell them I am. I miss that.
Thank you thank you thank you for speaking on this subject
The Human is not able to hold power or much power over other human beings.
Our Ego grows and becomes to big and takes over every clear thinking.
When the Ego gets to big,it always destroys everything that gets in its way.
This discussion casts leadership and associated collective dynamics in a negative light. Promoting hyper individualism is how the powers at be are breaking down all collectives ie shaking the jar. It is healthy to organize your fellow ants, get them to stop attacking each other, and fortify yourselves against whoever is disturbing the peace. Slogans, memes etc. are powerful tools amidst the information overload we are currently presented with to help organize a collective and accomplish its goals. A promise to help others is bad? It’s a shame the question about positive leadership/follower dynamics was completely ignored.
I think Bakunin and Kropotkin both studied the phenomenon of mutualism and the development of positive group leadership and consciousness much more so than Jung or the post World War Two philosophers i.e. Arendt.
Im only 15 minutes in, but i dont hear anything about economic hardships that drive political discontent and the attraction to narcissistic leaders. And in the US, the country is sopolitically and socially polarized by both of the 2 parties, both "leaders" are considered tryannical by either party. Frankly, the desire to be POTUS should automatically disqualify that person, but thats just my political cynicism.
Regardless, love TJL and thanks!
"Listen to what they're saying" 'when you're thinking of who you're going to vote for'... Well, I've been listening ,etc., since 1967. Since both "leaders" are saying the same thing (perhaps, in an inverted manner ), I shall serenely sit this one out. As always, I have the utmost appreciation for this most thorough podcast.
I am an American who is a dual US- Australian citizen who has lived in Melbourne for 17 years I witnessed the mass regression of most Americans who have been brainwashed by the media, corporations and politicians on the right AND the so-called left, who have supported EVERY war from Vietnam to Palestine. Most of my friends on the left have become fundamentalists with a lack of nuanced critical thinking skills. The pandemic showed the true colours of people who turned on each other and shamed people who asked simple questions about the extreme measures taken by some governments as well as the total failure of other governments to act. ''You're either with us or you're against us' is the mantra of the majority of Americans which dumbs people down and puts them in constant fear mode. Both left and right are waging cancel culture and are being played by the wealthy who also control Biden AND Trump. The decades long intensifying culture war has been stoked by the very rich and powerful, partly to distract people from waging a class war against corporations and the rich. America is the poster child for narcissim, militarism and greed - a trifecta of self-destructive values that nearly ALL Americans are wallowing in. Live outside of America for awhile and you will see just how immature it has become.
I'm an American and I couldn't agree more.
Paging Fromm. Doctor Erich Fromm.
I’m seeing this when it comes to the discussion of NPD and the collective of survivors of narcissistic abuse. There is an issue vs them mentality and projecting and scapegoating. Would love your thoughts on this
Marriage and home ownership are iconic life path events. The dreamer has experienced neither and is taking care of things for those who are. I'm wondering if the dreamer had a childhood in which her needs came last, and she was expected to meet everyone else's needs. She does so in the dream, plus she takes care of others in waking life.
When she gets "acupunctured" in the dream, her body releases some of her stored trauma through her sensory organs. Hmmm...
What did she hear and to a lesser extent see in childhood that impacted her deeply? Did she hear sounds from a bedroom and briefly look in to see a parent having an affair? Perhaps she witnessed drug use by one or both parents? If something like this happened, it may have established the expectation or her commitment to protect and take care of her siblings. Maybe she has to kill the crab as a representation of hiding drug needles.
Who knows?
What is a malignant narcissist motivation? In Robert Moores' words, "Necrophilia- the love of death".
That’s right, describes the covid era to a T.
Re the dream in this episode, I thought crab might also be a pun for crap, like crap going on in the family affecting the dreamer.
There is a very interesting movie on TH-cam including symbolism and philosophers thoughts. And it is Russian. I think you all would love it. Methaphores are amazing and they do include ants you were talking about. (Make sure ants don't fight each other). Unfortunately it is in Russian language with Polish subtitles. But if you know about it maybe you could fint it in English somewhere. It is called PLAN «ЗАМЫСЕЛ (2019). It is all about unconsciousness and people and some propaganda obviously. Orwell like dysthopia of human mind. Many symbols and quotes.
My God this metaphor about the brown ants and red ants only fighting when they are shaken... We keep experiencing this. I've never received so many attacks until after the black lives matter movement really kicked off In tandem with continental forest fires and smoke plus lock down curfews during the pandemic. Talk about being shaken...( Perhaps an episode on this...). I'm here in Los Angeles where there's now such open hatred of anybody outside of your own ethnic group. Hate crimes against Chinese. Hate crimes against African Americans, Hate crimes against women, Against progressives, Against European Americans, against any kind of immigrant, against anyone who is Arab or Muslim. It feels like everyone is free game and a target.
1:06:08 ...aaaaand, it's yet another election year. I statue falls only for another to be raised in its place
Thanks so much for this episode. I have an old schoolmate on FB who is a Trump supporter. We(most of his classmates) are all horrified, and rarely engage though every now and again, someone will make an effort. I don't want to attack, or criticize, but am looking for an opportunity to offer something in kindness that might address ideas of responsibility towards the future on this planet. I took so many notes while listening to you speak. I've been following you for years, studied Jung and some Buddhist mindfulness, but hearing the words here brought it all together for me now, in what I consider a very important moment. Grateful.
Democrats are Trump's greatest allies, and Republicans are Biden's. None of them would have a shot of gaining power without the other being so insanely corrupt, out of touch with reality and aggressively alienating to most of the country.