Trying Different Recipes with Tetsu Kasuya and his Hario Dripper - Part 2 | Coffee with April
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- This week, we're back road testing the new dripper from Hario: The Tetsu Kasuya Double Stainless Dripper
This brewer has been designed in combination with former World Brewers Cup Champion Test Kasuya and is created to remove the need for a paper filter when brewing coffee.
In part 2 of this video series, we watch Tetsu prepares a cup of coffee using our very own Illubabor filter from Gesha Village in Ethiopia. We then attempt to replicate his recipe here in Copenhagen using the same coffee, grinder and of course brewer.
We had so much fun playing with this brewing method and it’s certainly helped us to become better at brewing coffee. We really recommend trying this brewer if you’re looking for new ways to brew coffee that help you to think about extraction and pouring methods in very different ways.
We want to thank Tetsu for his advice and for sending us such a detailed and informative video.
If you want to see notes on the recipe he recommends when brewing our light roasted coffee, you can see details below:
- 15g Coffee
- 250g Beverage Weight
- Coarse Grind (12 - Ditting 804)
- 94 Water Temp
- Slow pour for 2 mins
- Final fast pour until you reach your beverage weight
- Total Brew time of 3-4 mins
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Did anyone else hear Tetsu say 10 for the grind setting?
What I find most interesting about this video is that it is very hard to replicate a recipe and perceive the exact same result. We are seeing two coffee experts, using nearly the same equipment, but still ending up with different cups. It just speaks to how much making coffee is about tweaking towards a taste preference.
Tetsu mentions in an official Hario video that his intention for this brewer is to replicate cloth drips and make it little more accessible because cloth filters are hard to maintain. Cloth drips are very different, it’s a labor of love, it requires skill (it’s definitely not just center pours) and the cup yields a very different taste - rich and silky, which you don’t seem to like because it’s not “clean”. So to compare it with normal pour over dripper and say others yields much cleaner cup with less effort, you are missing the point completely I think.
You actually do not have to "hit a point", so you can not "miss it".
Patrick showed his attempts, communicates very openly that h is not a fan of metal filter, tried mire than usual to make it work, dedicates two episodes to this, finally giving us HIS PERONAL OPINION, without being offensive or mean. No one has to agree with him or his experience.
What "the point" of the brewer is, is completely irrelevant, when you yourself can not make it work.
You used the wrong dose though, he said 20g; not 15
enormous bruh moment. You complety changed the recipe, both dose and grindsize. Makes sense you get water taste.but good video
April guy are never about mirroring recipes. They've always been trying to pioneer new ways to cater more different methods so it could be more fun and make, making coffee, an enjoyable experience. Who cares about dosing as long as you get the cup that works for you.
Like everyone else, I was puzzled why the dose was reduced from 20 to 15 g yet the grind, coffee and method were kept the same. Still not pleased with the overall workflow.
My order of the brewer has finally arrived a couple of weeks ago. I have using it since (daily). I followed Tetsu's recipe (20g in, 240ml out) and was able to finish within 3 min. Using same beans (I tried a couple) this method always result in stronger, deeper tastes comparing to regular v60. I guess the magnifying effect may work for some beans and may not for some others but so far, for me, it's very enjoyable. It's a bit more effort than v60 (as you need to hold the brewer all the time) but after a few cups, I don't feel anything at all and started to appreciate the ability to maneuver the coffee bed as well as the goose neck pot. You have to try to know.
Why did you brew with 15g of coffee compared to Tetsu's 20g. Wouldn't this also produce a weaker cup? I love the video. Great to see you all still supporting Tetsu and his product even though it doesn't fit your style. That's how it should be done 👍🏻
yep they fucked up
you cant get a good cup with 15 in and 250 Beverage Weight
This was what I wasn’t understanding either.
15g and 250g is 1:16-17, those aren't bad ratio, it's more of personal preference. James Hoffmann also use the same ratio for his V60 recipe.
@@reguluscaius4636 This is true, but I think the point here is that this brewer might require higher ratio to get a good cup. With 15g the cups were weaker and they had to grind finer which does not work. Changing your ratio is than another option you have which Tetsu uses. Of course you can get good cup with 15g with like V60, but you won't get that richness and other qualities that this brewer might offer. But you will the higher 20g ratio and I'm curious why they didn't use it or mentioned it.
Hi April, have you tried it with Kruve to sieve out the fines below 400 micron or 600 micron to prevent fines clogging the brewer ?
That brew method reminds me of some KONO methods. Very Asian method of brewing.
Thank you for the transparency, and for testing this brewer out! I've been considering getting it, but will now reconsider! Thank you for taking the time to educate the rest of us :)
However, I would like to point out two divergencies from your replication to Tetsu's video - in the sake of keeping up with method reliability in order to harness the highest amount of validation across the two tests.
1: Tetsu grind was 10, not 12 - obviously going even coarser. Albeit only a fraction, it does play a role
2: Tetsu used 20g of coffee not 15g - the more coffee the stronger the cup as there is more to extract
I suggest trying, if you haven't already off camera, to replicate the process using 20g and a grind setting of 10
You could try Cores Gold filter which has super fast flow rate, and it is pure gold coated which won't affect taste. You generally get more body out of it, and all the coffee oils are present. A bit of fine sediment which is fine.
How long does the plating last?
@@onixtheone Not sure, but it will last a long time. Not something I will worry about.
Did you guys try tetsus technique but using boiling water instead?
Yeah, we had many conversations with him about it. He is a good friend and we are great fans of what he do.
is that dripper really worth that much effort?
Hi Bilal,
I've owned one for about a year now and though it's a bit of a pain to figure out the best grind size for the flow rate, I've saved money buying paper filters, which means more of an incentive to make your 'perfect' recipe. I also like a bit of the oil in the cup.
There must be a reason that I hear about this for the first time. Hold it in the air for 3 minutes..
Instead of holding the dripper couldn't you just brew on top of a carafe with a line indicating the final volume you're aiming for?
Thank you for watching Dylan. Yes, you could.
In terms of amount of brew, yes. But the idea of this dripper is to replicate what it's like using a cloth dripper. When using a cloth dripper, they keep constant movement (tilting in different angles) to make sure water go to all different part of the coffee ground. So resting it somehow will definitely be different in terms of how water and coffee interact.
He didin't even taste :D
I really want an answer why, when you wanted to replicate Tetsu's recipe, did you reduce the amount of coffee from 20 to 15 and yet aiming for the same amount of coffee? It's a 25% reduction so it's not minor. Why? It's ok to experiment and find new/better methods for tastier result but if you are announcing that you are replicating the recipe, shouldn't the brew ratio at least be the same???
Doesn't seem like a good design tbh.