The hardest part in converting is purging the western mindset and developing the correct phromena, the intuitive life of action not intellectually. Lord have mercy on me.
I was baptized Orthodox as a baby. Unfortunately, I just started to understand my faith a couple years ago. Im 44 years old. I never joined any other church, but since not knowing my faith, I was sucked into the western mindset as well. Lord have mercy on me a wretched sinner. I thank God that I’m back to the church and trying to live an Orthodox Christian life. I’m really struggling, as I should. I need a lot of healing.
@@RadicallyGreen I see what you mean aesthetically but nirvana and theosis are as fundamentally different as possible. In theosis there is no destruction or extinguishing of individual, hypostatic personhood. On the contrary. It is the deification and restoration of the person as they were made to be, permeated by and radiating the un-created energies of God. Before I became orthodox I read books of the pali canon and practiced meditation and there are certainly truths and useful things in Buddhism but the truth mixed with a lie is a lie. At its core buddhism is nihilistic and spiritually suicidal.
May we all have your blessings Father Peter ☦️ Religion is for those who haven't experienced the Grace of God to repent, to receive forgiveness and eternal life by Christ, in Christ, for , Christ, in His One Holy Catholic Apostolic - Orthodox - Church ☦️ Orthodoxy is the Way, the Truth, the Life of the people of God.
Such a beautiful way to differentiate our reality. It's been difficult for my tongue to unscrambled what you just said and not be accused of indoctrination or some worldy synchronicity that is fantasy. Listening was like dripping honey off the vine. Thank you so much for your righlty service to commit yourself. I would not ever have heard the words you used to define the separation of the 2. You have blessed me this day, may God continually bless you to be heard by more. 🕊...
Many thanks for yet another edifying and inspiring video, Fr. Heers. Is seeing the Church as a path and way of life also found in the book 'Christ the Eternal Tao' by Hieromonk Damascene Christensen?
Religion is sorta like a career of either a monastic or piety life. Religion is much more hardened heart to the soul and body. Listening to Christ is more important than listening to man.
Acts 2:43b-47 (NKJV) many wonders and signs were done through the apostles. Now all who beleeved were together, and had all things in common, and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need. So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart, praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the *“church”* * daily those who were being saved. * the writers of the New Testament mean when they used the Greek word “ecclesia,” (which was translated in KJV as “church”), to describe a body of beleevers in Jesus Christ summoned by God and called out (by Him) from among the Jewish and Roman peoples to come together into a separate community under His Lordship. James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world. (quoting Peter H. timestamp 11:15) we got to keep the hierarchy, keep the thing in order, that's got to be an expression of love for others, we [the priests] are going to teach and preach, to keep people from falling into those traps [the struggles against the -isms: ecumenism, phyletism, secularism] so we can be what we are about."
I don't know much but I found an orthodox article talking about how Father John Romanides is an ecumenist could you tell me if I'm misunderstanding or wrong. Thanks.
I've also heard it explained that Orthodoxy is the only True Religion. Religion binds a people and community together like bones are connected by ligaments to form a living body. Without that we have no unity, just protestantism. I'm trying to find true community, true religion, true faith. Thank God for the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church: The one and only Orthodox Church!
I'm constantly astonished by how the fact of God is related today by most "Christians" as an idea, or symbol and then they worship or fight over the worldly ideas and symbols. Then they are not alive with the Father. For me Orthodoxy is my life with the Father. Though I am in the world I am still returned to him. It is so simple. And all that was needed was I follow the way already prepared by the Son and the Holy spirit. As preserved by his Church. It is all Holy, Holy, Holy. Glory to God.
To me religion is the way to many paths. Christ's said many will choose the Broadway. Few the narrow. The narrow is narrow for many reasons... Outward and inward appearance doesn't follow the norm of society. The one on the narrow path has experienced the broad paths or heard enough to know the good and evil of it. Some stay and some leave off futher on the narrow. When the door is open, a flood of good things flownout like milk and honey. The Church is revealed. The Kingdom of God pours knowledge one cannot contain. Overflow. Announcement of Alpha / Omega is present. The power is overwhelming and fullness cannot be expressed. There cannot be a return to earthly things. I say impossible but then I think of Judas. I hear Joel Osteen or such...I cringe. The Church of God in Christ is One Chruch who can recognize eachother by mere conversation. We all have fell in Deep Love with the One who saved us from death... this death is not to be taken lightly. Forgives us Father for we know not what we do. 💞
Hesychasm, inner silence, is the true path, it always was, the true practice, the outer religious side is man made, creating a set of beliefs, rules and interpretations of what they simply didn't understand. The nicean councils were just that, putting "truth" to a vote, unable to agree because they didn't know. They all would have been better off going to the desert or mountains, closing their eyes and communing with God in the silence and given up listening to the vanity of ignorant thought that ceaselessly claims it knows something. It knows nothing but the endless stories it tells itself.
child baptism is not only unlogical, its also not anywhere in the scriptures, same as the only phrase to go out in the world and make everyone a believer is a later add as we know, jesus did not even tell everything he knew to his 12 deciples, he did not gather masses of people to tell them how to act in a building called church which is also not in the scriptures.
Actually child baptism is logical, and it is in the scriptures, just not in the way you think, those circumcision debates and commandments are sure odd, in a culture that now rejects the cutting of foreskin as a form of initiation into the tribe, not to mention the various references of the crossing bodies of water, etc in the old testament. Jesus told the deciples everything they needed to know and do, they simply did not relate everything either because they didn't see the need to (it was common knowledge culturally), or they simply could not put everything Christ said and did in a singular book or text and some of it it was better lived out/conveyed orally.
Whole households were baptized in the New Testament Holy Scriptures when the man of the household came to Faith. That included infants as well as servants. This was also the normative practice of the 1st century of the Church. And yes, "church" is in the Holy Scriptures, both 'ekklesia' and 'kuriakon' which from koiné Greek to English are usually translated as 'church'. The former means the "gathering of the People of God" while the latter means basically "called out". [Edited to fix a typo.]
@@LadyMaria for people church is a building, i know about ecclesia but they all "go to church" and really mean the building, they invest endless money into it, same as the organization while people starve, so clearly they dont know about ecclesia, which you could get by meeting in the park, forest, at home...
@@tutorialchief Ignorance of others doesn't make my statement any less true. The Liturgy, which all Christians in the 1st century had, is in a building dedicated to God. It was not done out in the open.
the spirit is god and eternal, the body becomes dust again anyway, so we cant make the material everlasting and the spirit is already eternal, so the only thing to achieve could be to expirience eternity as the vanishing body, not more not less
@@OrthodoxEthos you can spit out all the fancy word salad you like, and that may fool some people, but not me. At the end of the day, you belong to a religion, just like everyone else. Nice try though😂
GOD/ GODDESS IS NOT RELIGION! . RELIGION IS THE MASTER PIECE OF THE ART OF ANIMAL TRANING. FOR IT TRAIN PPL AZ TO HOW THEY SHALL THINK. FACTS OVA FEELINGS! LIONS TIGERS AND BEARS OH MY!
@@LadyMaria just a bit of traditional differences and a filioque. catholics and orthodoxs are closer than any two other denominations - just see the gaps between an average protestant and catholic or between monophysits and orthodox.
@@RedFlagSaid It's way more than that. If you think it's just Filioque and beards you don't know much about Orthodoxy. Orthodoxy isn't a denomination. It's the Church of Christ. We are closer to the Miaphysite Coptics than to the Roman Catholics. That said, that isn't close enough. Close enough isn't good enough.
@@RedFlagSaidIt isn't no as Orthodoxy predates all denominations. Ergo, pre-denominational. It is not part of Protestantism which is where all the denominations are.
@@OrthodoxEthos The title itself sais it all. Orthodoxy is a religion. If you look up the definition of religion with wikipedia, it sais a believe in a supernatural power. The word God is not mentioned in the defenition. And also, today we hear the word transgender which is also false. If anything it should be transexual. Gender refers to grammer (masculine, feminine and neuter) The point im making is that today everyone is subtily transforming our way of thinking with alternatives and stearing us away from what is correct and good. We are being steared away from God. The ecumenical councils got rid of arias because he questioned the divinity of God. To question orthodoxy as a faith would mean turning your back to the church.
@@OrthodoxEthos The title suggests that. To question the orthodox faith is to turn your back against the church. The ecumenical council in 325 kicked out Arius because he questioned the faith. I am orthodox. I believe in one God, the father almighty... Aγιος ὁ Θεός, Aγιος ἰσχυρός, Aγιος ἀθάνατος, ἐλέησον ἡμᾶς.
The hardest part in converting is purging the western mindset and developing the correct phromena, the intuitive life of action not intellectually. Lord have mercy on me.
I was baptized Orthodox as a baby. Unfortunately, I just started to understand my faith a couple years ago. Im 44 years old. I never joined any other church, but since not knowing my faith, I was sucked into the western mindset as well. Lord have mercy on me a wretched sinner. I thank God that I’m back to the church and trying to live an Orthodox Christian life. I’m really struggling, as I should. I need a lot of healing.
It’s mind blowing just how pervasive and poisonous the western mindset it. I’m slowing purging it from my being as well.
@64 64 are you okay?
@@msm1876 you are 100% correct. Lord have mercy!
@@RadicallyGreen I see what you mean aesthetically but nirvana and theosis are as fundamentally different as possible. In theosis there is no destruction or extinguishing of individual, hypostatic personhood. On the contrary. It is the deification and restoration of the person as they were made to be, permeated by and radiating the un-created energies of God. Before I became orthodox I read books of the pali canon and practiced meditation and there are certainly truths and useful things in Buddhism but the truth mixed with a lie is a lie. At its core buddhism is nihilistic and spiritually suicidal.
Amin. This teaching is excellently described by Fr John romanides and fr George Metallinos
May we all have your blessings Father Peter ☦️
Religion is for those who haven't experienced the Grace of God to repent, to receive forgiveness and eternal life by Christ, in Christ, for , Christ, in His One Holy Catholic Apostolic - Orthodox - Church ☦️
Orthodoxy is the Way, the Truth, the Life of the people of God.
You shouldn't hate your old denomination when converting. You should be thankful it brought you to Orthodoxy.
Such a beautiful way to differentiate our reality. It's been difficult for my tongue to unscrambled what you just said and not be accused of indoctrination or some worldy synchronicity that is fantasy.
Listening was like dripping honey off the vine. Thank you so much for your righlty service to commit yourself. I would not ever have heard the words you used to define the separation of the 2. You have blessed me this day, may God continually bless you to be heard by more. 🕊...
" ' And I Believe In One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. ' " That's Good Enough For Me. AXIOS ☦️ ‼️
Many thanks for yet another edifying and inspiring video, Fr. Heers. Is seeing the Church as a path and way of life also found in the book 'Christ the Eternal Tao' by Hieromonk Damascene Christensen?
Religion is sorta like a career of either a monastic or piety life. Religion is much more hardened heart to the soul and body. Listening to Christ is more important than listening to man.
Acts 2:43b-47 (NKJV) many wonders and signs were done through the apostles. Now all who beleeved were together, and had all things in common, and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need. So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart, praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the *“church”* * daily those who were being saved.
* the writers of the New Testament mean when they used the Greek word “ecclesia,” (which was translated in KJV as “church”), to describe a body of beleevers in Jesus Christ summoned by God and called out (by Him) from among the Jewish and Roman peoples to come together into a separate community under His Lordship.
James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.
(quoting Peter H. timestamp 11:15) we got to keep the hierarchy, keep the thing in order, that's got to be an expression of love for others, we [the priests] are going to teach and preach, to keep people from falling into those traps [the struggles against the -isms: ecumenism, phyletism, secularism] so we can be what we are about."
I don't know much but I found an orthodox article talking about how Father John Romanides is an ecumenist could you tell me if I'm misunderstanding or wrong. Thanks.
I've also heard it explained that Orthodoxy is the only True Religion. Religion binds a people and community together like bones are connected by ligaments to form a living body. Without that we have no unity, just protestantism. I'm trying to find true community, true religion, true faith. Thank God for the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church: The one and only Orthodox Church!
True. It depends on how we define the term.
💖🙏☦
I'm constantly astonished by how the fact of God is related today by most "Christians" as an idea, or symbol and then they worship or fight over the worldly ideas and symbols. Then they are not alive with the Father. For me Orthodoxy is my life with the Father. Though I am in the world I am still returned to him. It is so simple. And all that was needed was I follow the way already prepared by the Son and the Holy spirit. As preserved by his Church. It is all Holy, Holy, Holy.
Glory to God.
Orthodoxy is The Way with Christ and through Christ the Father and Holy Spirit. The Holy Trinity.
@@LadyMaria Or; The way with Christ in the Holy Spirit to the Father is Orthodoxy.
@@Orthodoxi There is a Monarchia of the Father but we cannot demote the Son and Holy Spirit to lesser gods or lesser of God. That's Arianism.
There can be no real peace in life except thru Christ
To me religion is the way to many paths. Christ's said many will choose the Broadway. Few the narrow.
The narrow is narrow for many reasons... Outward and inward appearance doesn't follow the norm of society.
The one on the narrow path has experienced the broad paths or heard enough to know the good and evil of it. Some stay and some leave off futher on the narrow.
When the door is open, a flood of good things flownout like milk and honey. The Church is revealed. The Kingdom of God pours knowledge one cannot contain. Overflow.
Announcement of Alpha / Omega is present.
The power is overwhelming and fullness cannot be expressed.
There cannot be a return to earthly things. I say impossible but then I think of Judas. I hear Joel Osteen or such...I cringe.
The Church of God in Christ is One Chruch who can recognize eachother by mere conversation. We all have fell in Deep Love with the One who saved us from death... this death is not to be taken lightly.
Forgives us Father for we know not what we do. 💞
It is called "going through the motions." Religion. Monica💒
The truth?
Hesychasm, inner silence, is the true path, it always was, the true practice, the outer religious side is man made, creating a set of beliefs, rules and interpretations of what they simply didn't understand. The nicean councils were just that, putting "truth" to a vote, unable to agree because they didn't know.
They all would have been better off going to the desert or mountains, closing their eyes and communing with God in the silence and given up listening to the vanity of ignorant thought that ceaselessly claims it knows something.
It knows nothing but the endless stories it tells itself.
Don't do Protestantism kids.
That's why we are not Reformational or Papal Protestants.
@@LadyMaria Let me guess - you're just the original Christians with the original interpretation of the Bible that is the right one?
@@AveChristusRex Yes. That is Orthodoxy.
child baptism is not only unlogical, its also not anywhere in the scriptures, same as the only phrase to go out in the world and make everyone a believer is a later add as we know, jesus did not even tell everything he knew to his 12 deciples, he did not gather masses of people to tell them how to act in a building called church which is also not in the scriptures.
Actually child baptism is logical, and it is in the scriptures, just not in the way you think, those circumcision debates and commandments are sure odd, in a culture that now rejects the cutting of foreskin as a form of initiation into the tribe, not to mention the various references of the crossing bodies of water, etc in the old testament. Jesus told the deciples everything they needed to know and do, they simply did not relate everything either because they didn't see the need to (it was common knowledge culturally), or they simply could not put everything Christ said and did in a singular book or text and some of it it was better lived out/conveyed orally.
Whole households were baptized in the New Testament Holy Scriptures when the man of the household came to Faith. That included infants as well as servants. This was also the normative practice of the 1st century of the Church.
And yes, "church" is in the Holy Scriptures, both 'ekklesia' and 'kuriakon' which from koiné Greek to English are usually translated as 'church'. The former means the "gathering of the People of God" while the latter means basically "called out".
[Edited to fix a typo.]
@@LadyMaria for people church is a building, i know about ecclesia but they all "go to church" and really mean the building, they invest endless money into it, same as the organization while people starve, so clearly they dont know about ecclesia, which you could get by meeting in the park, forest, at home...
@@tutorialchief Ignorance of others doesn't make my statement any less true.
The Liturgy, which all Christians in the 1st century had, is in a building dedicated to God. It was not done out in the open.
Yeah a lot of churchies now for something else... ..real christ teachers . yeah they teach from place to place.. even under the trees..
the spirit is god and eternal, the body becomes dust again anyway, so we cant make the material everlasting and the spirit is already eternal, so the only thing to achieve could be to expirience eternity as the vanishing body, not more not less
There is the general Resurrection.
It is a religion, though. Unless there is no conversion process, it is a religion.
It is revelation; it is God’s action and presence in the world, the Church is the extension of the incarnation.
@@OrthodoxEthos you can spit out all the fancy word salad you like, and that may fool some people, but not me. At the end of the day, you belong to a religion, just like everyone else. Nice try though😂
“Religion” is the action of binding one's soul to God again, therefore Orthodoxy is religion.
@@user-pq9zw5wb1z One of the ways wherein God revealed the truth. It has been revealed different times during history.
GOD/ GODDESS IS NOT RELIGION! . RELIGION IS THE MASTER PIECE OF THE ART OF ANIMAL TRANING. FOR IT TRAIN PPL AZ TO HOW THEY SHALL THINK. FACTS OVA FEELINGS! LIONS TIGERS AND BEARS OH MY!
jesus christ prophet
Mahomed antichrist
Jesus Christ is more than that. He is Prophet, Priest, and King. But most importantly, He is God of all.
It's just catholicism with beards.
No. Very much different than Roman Catholicism.
@@LadyMaria just a bit of traditional differences and a filioque. catholics and orthodoxs are closer than any two other denominations - just see the gaps between an average protestant and catholic or between monophysits and orthodox.
@@RedFlagSaid It's way more than that. If you think it's just Filioque and beards you don't know much about Orthodoxy.
Orthodoxy isn't a denomination. It's the Church of Christ. We are closer to the Miaphysite Coptics than to the Roman Catholics. That said, that isn't close enough. Close enough isn't good enough.
@@LadyMaria it is a denomination
@@RedFlagSaidIt isn't no as Orthodoxy predates all denominations. Ergo, pre-denominational. It is not part of Protestantism which is where all the denominations are.
This sound heretical. I will not listen to this channel anymore.
Tell us. What sounds heretical?
the people at orthodoxy in dialog said the same thing. they slander fr. Heers and provide no substantial arguments.
@@OrthodoxEthos The title itself sais it all. Orthodoxy is a religion. If you look up the definition of religion with wikipedia, it sais a believe in a supernatural power. The word God is not mentioned in the defenition. And also, today we hear the word transgender which is also false. If anything it should be transexual. Gender refers to grammer (masculine, feminine and neuter) The point im making is that today everyone is subtily transforming our way of thinking with alternatives and stearing us away from what is correct and good. We are being steared away from God. The ecumenical councils got rid of arias because he questioned the divinity of God. To question orthodoxy as a faith would mean turning your back to the church.
@@OrthodoxEthos The title suggests that. To question the orthodox faith is to turn your back against the church. The ecumenical council in 325 kicked out Arius because he questioned the faith. I am orthodox. I believe in one God, the father almighty... Aγιος ὁ Θεός, Aγιος ἰσχυρός, Aγιος ἀθάνατος, ἐλέησον ἡμᾶς.
@@photorailfan Did you watch the video?