If you really delve into Spiderman 2 2004 Black Cat you'd be amazed how much subtle themes can be found such as the subtle forms of her convincing him through each scene. I was going to cover it in a video time but I think she purposely tripped the alarm in her 2nd chase scene without stealing anything just to get the attention of Spidey as he was already in the areas etc.
Yeah it’s never in your face with how’s she feeling. It’s really good writing for 2004 movie tie in game. That’s a good point, she’s a master thief no way she’d let a simple alarm like that get her
Insomniac fumbled black cat so hard. They had a potential with her only to chalk her up to a miles mission and never her have her in any interaction with a BLACK SUIT SPIDER-MAN. Wasted opportunity. And why at the end of the game do you run into Wraith a literal murderer and not black cat is beyond me
And also her sexuality reveal which is so out of nowhere and doesn't even make sense. You would never think she's anything besides straight seeing all her interactions with Peter in the DLCs And people somehow still defends this shite
@tienluong9648, Uh… You realise what bisexual means, right? She’s not lesbian, she’s *bisexual* - As in, attracted to both genders. Her having a girlfriend doesn’t invalidate any of her feelings for or interactions with Peter. And she’s actually been Bisexual in the comics for quite a while.
@@r-171 1) We know what bisexual means in this world of activist comic books. It's just an excuse to turn previously straight characters gay. She'll now forever be portrayed as having a girlfriend and her heterosexuality will be at best a ploy. The same happened with Tim Drake (bisexual in this case meant breaking up with Stephanie and going with "Bernard"). Which makes no sense in the first place as we read the thought of Tim for decades and never was he portrayed as gay. 2) The "She's been bisexual in comics for a while" doesn't stand. A few bad written and caricatural comic books down the line that were dismissed (as so many bad plotpoints from bad authors in comics often are) doesn't count.
Insomniac and Web of Shadows are definitely my favourite. Black Cat is literally my favourite Spider-Man villain of all time so I absolutely appreciate this video.
Dude! You said exactly what I think about Black Cat in Insomniac's universe. Personally, I hated SM2, and feel it would've made for a much better over all story if Miles was replaced with Black Cat. Story points would've hit way harder, and would make the Shriek fight way more impactful!
Or at least give the mj sections to black cat. I still feel like miles had a place in this story but they didn't exploit the relations between him and peter enough
Honestly I hope we get a future Black Cat who may start out just interested in Peter as Spider-Man, but soon find out she loves Peter and Spider-Man. Just give her a redemption arc to where she goes from a cat burglar to a person wanting to stop villains because she wants to. I’ll seriously take any love interest that’s not MJ.
It really sucke. MJ WAS the absolute GOAT love intrest. She was his ride or die. But Marvel has fucked her(Ayo!) SO hard(AYO!) to the point that she's become one of if not the worste love interest. Please Marvel, let MJ he the GOAT that she is
Spider-Man 2 (PS2) Black Cat is always gonna by in my top 3. She was one of my earliest...... "awakenings" as a kid. Although I HATED her final level back then, because of how obscenely difficult that goddamn mech suit was to deal with. So I typically just lured the little guys off to the side and let her whittle down the mech's health, then once the little ones were knocked out, then I'd come in and finish the mech off.
I kind of liked the tasm2 movie black cat...even though we never saw her actually become Black Cat it was cool seeing a minor character actually be implied to be someone well known in canon... Also if we're including 'What could have been' then Spider-man 4 Black Cat/Vulturess because Anne Hathaway
@@SoxatSea It's actually not sure if Anne's character would have become Black Cat...IIRC what I read she would have played Felicia Hardy, but she would have also been Vulture's daughter... and would become someone called 'Vulturess' or smthg...Even though it's honestly easier to just imagine (and also easier to make thumbnails for your hypothetical SM4 fanfics Looking at you MissedthePart) it just being the same as Catwoman in DKR
Web of shadows Black cat was awesome my first cartoon crush lmao . the insomniac Black cat is really fun LOVED both chase missions in Spiderman 1 and 2 ps4/5
tasm 1 & 2 black cat is the best depiction of the character from how she got her powers, Ali Hillis performance and portrayal but i also have a spot for treyarch's spider-man 2 movie game version of black cat - Holly Fields: she just brought more energy to the role like Jennifer Hale's black cat from Spider-Man: The Animated Series
Although I prefer black cat to be a bit toxic, it was really nice and refreshing to have such a compassionate black cat in SM2. Hell them being friends felt way more heart warming than a romance that’s not gonna work out
Your idea about Black Cat having a more pivotal role in Spider-Man 2 is actually a really good idea and I'm surprised it wasn't actually in the game. Having Black Cat be more drawn to Peter because of the symbiote, but then pulling back because of Peter's sporadic actions is gold. It would've been a real indication that Peter needed to get the symbiote off as while it did "make him a better Spider-Man" it would've caused too much damage to the ones Peter Parker loved.
I really like Insomniac Black Cat, but she doesn't actually feel like Felicia tbh. Like at least in The City Never Sleeps, she's so mean spirited. Felicia would actually never lead Pete on thinking she might have his child. Felicia's not afraid to lie to Peter, but I personally feel that's way farther than she'd actually go. Also her just going to France and never coming back just makes no sense for her character. She's not gonna just leave New York to the wolves, this is the character who gave up immortality to save New York. There's elements of Felicia's character but she doesn't really act like Felicia imo. Still a really fucking fun character either way though.
I can see she’s little bit more bitter towards Pete as he’s always denies her advances, but yeah she’s really mean to him and has lights the hell out of him. We gotta get dlc of her, imagine how fun the gameplay would be with the teleportation rod
I hope you guys are enjoying the video! Stay tuned towards the end because the one of the Cats surprised me how good it was and I felt very passionate about writing about! Regardless thanks for clicking on the video!
I always wondered how her kissing animation could damage him🤔 but i loved that her Symbiote boss fight was inspired by Scream both kinda share same powers
I respect the ranking but tbh I'd put insomniac's version a bit lower imo, while she's definitely got a lot of care put into her, characterwise she seemed the most downright 'mean' of the bunch (which is wild considering she doesn't even fight you like in WoS), like kicking off a gang war and lying to Peter about having a child?!?! That was just fucked up man, and with all that she fakes her death. Sure, she saves him a bit later on and gives him a usb with info but that doesn't really feel like enough to make up for such a betrayal lol. Honestly would've swapped her with WoS Black Cat, because while she says and does weird shit she goes through more of a character arc in the good path, getting over not being Peter's partner and wishing MJ the best with him. (and yk, it's the only one where she and Spider-Man can actually be endgame, so bonus points for variety lol)
Insomniac Black Cat is the love my life I literally just player her mission in spider-man 2. I hate how less they use her I really hope she comes back in a bigger role I like fighting with her no matter if it’s stealthy or not.
It's not even min 1 and I already liked this video, because I saw many spider related ranking or talking and rarely seen any mention of my beloved game Web of shadow, well done. 👍
can we TALK ABOUT the fact that felicias character is a black cat that manipulates and has a love interest to our hero spiderman from marvel, WHILE selina who is catwoman in the dc world IS ALSO a black cat, ALSO MANIPULATES BATMAN AND HAS A LOVE INTEREST FOR HIM ASWELL AND HER SISTERS NAME IS ALSO FELICIA??!! AINT THAT A COINCIDENCE! XD
With Edge of time I don’t like the “better than the original” Line but it can be interpreted as calling her a better fighter and in the comics (evil that men do) while married they’re very flirty and Spider-man doesn’t stop her from kissing him so it’s not like him cheating with Cat is completely out of character
I was legitimately upset and when Peter broke it off with Cat for that busted looking MJ in Spider-Man 2. I actually turned off the game and walked away for the day lol
Spiderman 2 would be my favorite version while Marvel's Spiderman is one I dislike most. Reasons being is that she's toxic around Spiderman what makes things worse is strangely writer's don't even have her face any actual permanent consequences for actions, you don't get satisfaction of defeating her in boss fight and locking her up. Also I've seen this brought up but personally in Marvel's Spiderman 2 I think she was lying again about having a girlfriend some people have brought theory that have lied about lying about not having son and that she could she could have child that could be Peter's. But when all said my attitude to her leaving in Marvel's Spiderman 2 was not so different to another character's attitude after she left I was thinking 'Good Ridance'.
How did you obtain that information about Black Cat's DNA being infused with Tigra's in Edge of Time when none of that detail was in the games dialogue?
I agree with everything said about insomniac’s version of black cat. Erica lindbeck nailed it harder than any prior black cat. You know you made an amazing version of the character when your only complaint is that they should have been incorporated into the game more.
I think the "Spider-Man 2" (2004) video game has the perfect Felicia Hardy / Black Cat blueprint with its take on the character. I know that Felicia Hardy / Black Cat was technically in "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" (2014) movie, but if they ever decide to have Black Cat be a character in the MCU alongside Tom Holland's Spider-Man they *definitely* need to take inspiration from the "Spider-Man 2" (2004) video game with how it represented Black Cat because it *definitely* has the best written version of Black Cat outside of the comics. I honestly think that version of Black Cat is even better than the one from the "Spider-Man: The Animated Series" (1994) cartoon and "The Spectacular Spider-Man" animated series. I love how Felicia Hardy / Black Cat in the "Spider-Man 2" (2004) video game tries to convince and persuade Spider-Man, with no sort of malicious or malevolent intent at all..., that his life would be a lot easier if he just gives up being Peter Parker to be Spider-Man and her chemistry and conversations with Spider-Man in that game are *very* compelling and I love how she acts as sort of a reflection of Spider-Man himself. 100% agree with you on that Felicia Hardy / Black Cat being S tier. 5:55 - The awkward part about "Spider-Man: Edge of Time's" Black Cat 2099 is the frankly weird and bizarre implications behind her existence lol... Like..., did anyone working at Alchemax question why company funds were being used to replicate their CEO’s ex-girlfriend as an enhanced genetic duplicate? No? In my head I'm just imagining an Alchemax employee going, "Hey, are we okay with the CEO using company funds to make a clone of his dead ex girlfriend? We are? Okay…” lmao... But Katee Sackhoff is still definitely one of my favorite Black Cat voice actresses and she's honestly up there with Holly Fields and Tricia Helfer and I would be happy to hear Katee Sackhoff voice Black Cat more often in other things besides just her one performance in "Spider-Man: Edge of Time".
I got to disagree with you on that black cat 2099 that boss fight being mid, that boss fight was not made that was the dictionary definition irritating. Like her clones are spamming their attacks while she's attacking you, whittling down your health. And you have to fight for like four times with scattered health pickups throughout that little hydroponic jungle... They don't ever seem to heal you enough.
I see your points, the clones were an annoying distraction for sure but I wish they use the map a bit more, fighting in the fake jungle, as cat hunts you. The small tight space would make you confused if it was the clones or cat.
This my dude, if SM2 by Insomniac was done by Spider-Man fans we would got Black Suit & Black Cat story and romance, but unfortunately for us it's been done by wokies that force ugly MJ on us while propaganda us that we must now accept replacement of Peter with Miles, because Miles so diverse and fresh and fit, ofc since he a black character he gets superb electricity powers - that "Oh so suddenly" a weak point to every character in the game, Venom somehow not afraid of fire..... but Miles can beat him in 3 rounds with being son of Electro, oh Harry dying? - Electro Jesus is here, not like Peter can build some shocker device for his webshooters... nah Peter You NErd, let Miles to take care of electricity puzzles.
yes right thank you SM2 is woke olitics mj is bad black cat GIRLFRIEND france that was bad she should be in new york and with peter not this woke stuff and venom immune to fire and miles delete him make only peter spiderman game not miles
Personally I always liked the first Insomniac Black Cat suit more in Spider-Man PS. just feel like it looks more cool and less seductive. Alway thought the armor was sick. I never liked the new suit she had (for five minutes) in the second game. First suit also had retractable black Panther like claws. Just made the second suit look like a cat woman rip off in my eyes. Even if it’s the original design.
Insomniac's version had so much potential for me. Giving her a kid? Damn that's never expected from Felicia. You can explore so many story ideas from that. In her theme, especially the last minute, is the most surprising thing for me because it's EMOTIONAL and it means she has a soft spot. Why bother if your character has a rock solid personality which can lie about having a child? Just give it a theme that sounds mysterious and jumpy. They didn't done that. And Peter's theme is actually can be heard in that last bit so I'm assuming she still carries a part of him. With her father is on the game too, I waited Insomniac to continue her story and explore who she really is in the second game... but... And but... You can figure out how annoying it is. They canonised magic in just 5 minutes so she can be wiped out from the story.
Dude that’s exactly how I feel. I was so excited to see her story went from sm1. A more mature Fecilia who may have kid would been a cool topic to explore. Sm2 just left my head scratching and with more questions. Black Cat solo game??
@@SoxatSea I wish... if we were still on ps2 era we would definitely see a black cat spinoff from this story. Unfortunately everything requires too much money now :(
Gotta say, when i saw WoS Black Cat as B tier i was really disapointed, but after watching the rest of the video, i really understood why. Pretty good!
The edge of time suit is amazing I love the design and figure and black cat should cover herself a bit more the male gaze does jot make a great character.
Comments saying Black Cat shouldn't be bi, clearly haven't even bothered to pick up a comic book and actually do any research before going on a drunken tirade...
But she’s not a BLACK cat tho. Did you know when Marc Wolvman was making the character he didn’t pull any inspiration from Catwoman? His main inspiration was old cartoon called Bad Luck Blackie, about a black cat that brought bad luck
I love Insomiac Black Cat anyways but her theme is actually so perfect
I love her theme music so much it’s so dreamy.
Yes
@@SoxatSeafair
nah treyarch's spider-man 2 movie game black cat has the best theme and it's what Insomiac copied from
@@Oldschool1943 Alright then chief
If you really delve into Spiderman 2 2004 Black Cat you'd be amazed how much subtle themes can be found such as the subtle forms of her convincing him through each scene. I was going to cover it in a video time but I think she purposely tripped the alarm in her 2nd chase scene without stealing anything just to get the attention of Spidey as he was already in the areas etc.
Yeah it’s never in your face with how’s she feeling. It’s really good writing for 2004 movie tie in game. That’s a good point, she’s a master thief no way she’d let a simple alarm like that get her
@@SoxatSeaI made a pitch for a Black Cat Video Game 2 years ago.
That version sucks
@@SoxatSeanah
Fair
Insomniac’s black cat has the BEST theme, omfg it’s so good
This person speaks the truth!!
Insomniac fumbled black cat so hard. They had a potential with her only to chalk her up to a miles mission and never her have her in any interaction with a BLACK SUIT SPIDER-MAN. Wasted opportunity. And why at the end of the game do you run into Wraith a literal murderer and not black cat is beyond me
This.
And also her sexuality reveal which is so out of nowhere and doesn't even make sense. You would never think she's anything besides straight seeing all her interactions with Peter in the DLCs
And people somehow still defends this shite
@@tienluong9648 insomniac spider man fans defenders 😂.
@tienluong9648, Uh… You realise what bisexual means, right?
She’s not lesbian, she’s *bisexual* - As in, attracted to both genders.
Her having a girlfriend doesn’t invalidate any of her feelings for or interactions with Peter.
And she’s actually been Bisexual in the comics for quite a while.
@@r-171 1) We know what bisexual means in this world of activist comic books. It's just an excuse to turn previously straight characters gay. She'll now forever be portrayed as having a girlfriend and her heterosexuality will be at best a ploy. The same happened with Tim Drake (bisexual in this case meant breaking up with Stephanie and going with "Bernard"). Which makes no sense in the first place as we read the thought of Tim for decades and never was he portrayed as gay.
2) The "She's been bisexual in comics for a while" doesn't stand. A few bad written and caricatural comic books down the line that were dismissed (as so many bad plotpoints from bad authors in comics often are) doesn't count.
Insomniac and Web of Shadows are definitely my favourite. Black Cat is literally my favourite Spider-Man villain of all time so I absolutely appreciate this video.
5:19
REALLY puts the "EDGE" in edge of time 💀
My Favorite is web of Shadows Black Cat.
LOONAS V.A VOICES INSOMNIAC BLACK CAT? That's automatic S Tier for me
Dude! You said exactly what I think about Black Cat in Insomniac's universe. Personally, I hated SM2, and feel it would've made for a much better over all story if Miles was replaced with Black Cat. Story points would've hit way harder, and would make the Shriek fight way more impactful!
Or at least give the mj sections to black cat. I still feel like miles had a place in this story but they didn't exploit the relations between him and peter enough
There are many aspects that range from disappointing to straight up bad.
Not having Black Cat have a bigger role is one of them
Honestly I hope we get a future Black Cat who may start out just interested in Peter as Spider-Man, but soon find out she loves Peter and Spider-Man. Just give her a redemption arc to where she goes from a cat burglar to a person wanting to stop villains because she wants to. I’ll seriously take any love interest that’s not MJ.
Coolbrickz we all want someone who loves us for what’s on the inside. Also love the username
@@SoxatSea Thanks man, you’re the first person here to say that.
It really sucke.
MJ WAS the absolute GOAT love intrest. She was his ride or die.
But Marvel has fucked her(Ayo!) SO hard(AYO!) to the point that she's become one of if not the worste love interest.
Please Marvel, let MJ he the GOAT that she is
Spider-Man 2 (PS2) Black Cat is always gonna by in my top 3. She was one of my earliest...... "awakenings" as a kid. Although I HATED her final level back then, because of how obscenely difficult that goddamn mech suit was to deal with. So I typically just lured the little guys off to the side and let her whittle down the mech's health, then once the little ones were knocked out, then I'd come in and finish the mech off.
WOS & Edge of time gave her some knockers
I kind of liked the tasm2 movie black cat...even though we never saw her actually become Black Cat it was cool seeing a minor character actually be implied to be someone well known in canon...
Also if we're including 'What could have been' then Spider-man 4 Black Cat/Vulturess because Anne Hathaway
Omg Anna Hathaway would have killed it the rami verse. I didnt realized Felicity Jones was Felicia Hardy in TASM 2. Perfect casting
@@SoxatSea It's actually not sure if Anne's character would have become Black Cat...IIRC what I read she would have played Felicia Hardy, but she would have also been Vulture's daughter... and would become someone called 'Vulturess' or smthg...Even though it's honestly easier to just imagine (and also easier to make thumbnails for your hypothetical SM4 fanfics Looking at you MissedthePart) it just being the same as Catwoman in DKR
The VA for Spectacular Spider-Man and Web of Shadows' Black Cat is my favorite Black Cat VA
My first video of yours and it was great. But yeah with Edge of Time Black Cat, Peter was mainly tryna comfort her.
Thank you for watching! I get that it’s just sooo flirty
Web of shadows Black cat was awesome my first cartoon crush lmao . the insomniac Black cat is really fun LOVED both chase missions in Spiderman 1 and 2 ps4/5
No judgement here bro 😎. Sm2 chases was one of best level I ever played it was so exhilarating
She will be always the loyal woman Peter and Symbiote needs 😏 even in the comics Symbiote liked her
Venom symbiote and Cat would get along so well. That’d be fun comic, venom cat does a heist
2:07 should def be a meme in the group chat!! "HORNY! HORNY! HORNY1"
🤣🤣
lol I want see this on gify
that spongebob clip for TASM was perfect it killed me
My favourites are web of shadow, tasm2 my first exposure to the character.
No matter what games she on, Black Cat will always be my favorite character ❤️🐈⬛
tasm 1 & 2 black cat is the best depiction of the character from how she got her powers, Ali Hillis performance and portrayal but i also have a spot for treyarch's spider-man 2 movie game version of black cat - Holly Fields: she just brought more energy to the role like Jennifer Hale's black cat from Spider-Man: The Animated Series
How dare you give Edge of Time costume a D tier! It looked 👌
Doc, no disrespect but you’re not the drippiest dude on the block. Black Cat 2099 is a bit much
@@SoxatSea they’ve both been a thorn in my side. I rightfully sent her to prison when I was superior
My personal favorite is the one from Web of shadows.
Maybe not the best of them, but i still like her.
Love these kinda videos! Keep em up !
Much appreciated it!! More coming for sure!!
4:01 YEEEEES ! I thought I was the only one to think the same.
6:20 NOOOOOOOOOoooo... BLACK CAAAT! NOOOOOOOOO"
"Better than the original" i think Peter would say the same to the MJ Water Clone if he had the chance
Omg you make a valid point! That scream he does is so funny.
Although I prefer black cat to be a bit toxic, it was really nice and refreshing to have such a compassionate black cat in SM2. Hell them being friends felt way more heart warming than a romance that’s not gonna work out
Your idea about Black Cat having a more pivotal role in Spider-Man 2 is actually a really good idea and I'm surprised it wasn't actually in the game. Having Black Cat be more drawn to Peter because of the symbiote, but then pulling back because of Peter's sporadic actions is gold. It would've been a real indication that Peter needed to get the symbiote off as while it did "make him a better Spider-Man" it would've caused too much damage to the ones Peter Parker loved.
Appreciate it! And I’m glad you agree, there was so much more for her to do in sm2. I noticed that not a lot of spidey supporting cast is even in SM2.
edge of time is a whole different build man like it even got me act up
Gotchu sweating bullets
I really like Insomniac Black Cat, but she doesn't actually feel like Felicia tbh. Like at least in The City Never Sleeps, she's so mean spirited. Felicia would actually never lead Pete on thinking she might have his child. Felicia's not afraid to lie to Peter, but I personally feel that's way farther than she'd actually go. Also her just going to France and never coming back just makes no sense for her character. She's not gonna just leave New York to the wolves, this is the character who gave up immortality to save New York. There's elements of Felicia's character but she doesn't really act like Felicia imo. Still a really fucking fun character either way though.
I can see she’s little bit more bitter towards Pete as he’s always denies her advances, but yeah she’s really mean to him and has lights the hell out of him.
We gotta get dlc of her, imagine how fun the gameplay would be with the teleportation rod
You forgot black cat from spectacular, Spider-Man
was stalking the account lol watched every one of your videos yesterday. you have amazing videos, hope to see you continue to grow ❤️
Omg! Thanks so much for watching, like ALL of them. Glad I could entertain you! What was your favorite?
@@SoxatSea probably the shattered dimensions stream or the spider-man unlimited video, those 2 games consumed my childhood
Oh Sam’s! There’s so much more to talk about those games I’m excited!
Favorite is ultimate, no debate.
mannn im so bricked watching ts ong
all of them because would sma
I love these kind of videos! And it looks like you’re really having fun. Keep it up mate ❤ we’ll support you 🎉
Aye I appreciate the love! And thank you for watching!!!
Disney infinity is underated
I'm honestly interested in you doing vids on TASMs games!
Sweet! I’m definitely gonna do a replay of them!
I hope you guys are enjoying the video! Stay tuned towards the end because the one of the Cats surprised me how good it was and I felt very passionate about writing about! Regardless thanks for clicking on the video!
black cat- Spider-Man Web of Shadows
TASM 2 mobile had a black cat too i think her design was great too but character wise I don’t remember much
TASM 2 mobile game had weird more accurate characters then the actual console games.
Did you ever play it?
@@SoxatSea beenox tasm 2 has a better black cat
I always wondered how her kissing animation could damage him🤔 but i loved that her Symbiote boss fight was inspired by Scream both kinda share same powers
Omg I didn’t think about that! You’re totally right! It’s the hair!
@@SoxatSeaAnd her loud screams😏 would loved to see if you could talk about other Symbiotes in your videos in the comics😁
I’ve always limited myself to talk specifically to just video games but I could branch out to comics in general
@@SoxatSea I see😀🤔
I respect the ranking but tbh I'd put insomniac's version a bit lower imo, while she's definitely got a lot of care put into her, characterwise she seemed the most downright 'mean' of the bunch (which is wild considering she doesn't even fight you like in WoS), like kicking off a gang war and lying to Peter about having a child?!?! That was just fucked up man, and with all that she fakes her death. Sure, she saves him a bit later on and gives him a usb with info but that doesn't really feel like enough to make up for such a betrayal lol.
Honestly would've swapped her with WoS Black Cat, because while she says and does weird shit she goes through more of a character arc in the good path, getting over not being Peter's partner and wishing MJ the best with him. (and yk, it's the only one where she and Spider-Man can actually be endgame, so bonus points for variety lol)
HORNY, HORNY(I'm NoT hOrNy)
I keep trying to tell them!
i read the title and thought you were talking about felines.
Insomniac Black Cat is the love my life I literally just player her mission in spider-man 2. I hate how less they use her I really hope she comes back in a bigger role I like fighting with her no matter if it’s stealthy or not.
It's not even min 1 and I already liked this video, because I saw many spider related ranking or talking and rarely seen any mention of my beloved game Web of shadow, well done. 👍
Thanks for the gas mate!
Hands down it was Web of Shadows Black Cat
can we TALK ABOUT the fact that felicias character is a black cat that manipulates and has a love interest to our hero spiderman from marvel, WHILE selina who is catwoman in the dc world IS ALSO a black cat, ALSO MANIPULATES BATMAN AND HAS A LOVE INTEREST FOR HIM ASWELL AND HER SISTERS NAME IS ALSO FELICIA??!! AINT THAT A COINCIDENCE! XD
Both comics joke about it...
4:31 Am I Seeing This Right? Did They Budget Cut Black Cat From The First Game?
They literally just put Black Cat in every video game
With Edge of time I don’t like the “better than the original” Line but it can be interpreted as calling her a better fighter and in the comics (evil that men do) while married they’re very flirty and Spider-man doesn’t stop her from kissing him so it’s not like him cheating with Cat is completely out of character
what do you even mean by ''(evil that men do")...???
@@godzillazfriction It's a name of a Comic,
YESSSSSSSSS MY BLACK CAT WON!!!!!!!!!! spider-man 2 ps2 cat was the best
You backed the right horse or should I say the right… cat???
TASM is underrated
Black cat on the tier is the hottest
TASM Black Cat technically isn't Black Cat yet, She's JUST Felicia Hardy
TASM 2 IS Black Cat
I think Black Cat is going to be the best version of Black Cat.
I was legitimately upset and when Peter broke it off with Cat for that busted looking MJ in Spider-Man 2. I actually turned off the game and walked away for the day lol
Cope hard.
@@seantylerfermin4927 Silly things matter when you're a kid lol
yes insomniac is too woke black cat want girl no peter that was bad MJ too
Spider-Man 2 black cat is the best imo.
Spiderman 2 would be my favorite version while Marvel's Spiderman is one I dislike most.
Reasons being is that she's toxic around Spiderman what makes things worse is strangely writer's don't even have her face any actual permanent consequences for actions, you don't get satisfaction of defeating her in boss fight and locking her up. Also I've seen this brought up but personally in Marvel's Spiderman 2 I think she was lying again about having a girlfriend some people have brought theory that have lied about lying about not having son and that she could she could have child that could be Peter's. But when all said my attitude to her leaving in Marvel's Spiderman 2 was not so different to another character's attitude after she left I was thinking 'Good Ridance'.
Personality❌ Attractive✅
How did you obtain that information about Black Cat's DNA being infused with Tigra's in Edge of Time when none of that detail was in the games dialogue?
It was in her wiki page lol
5:20 God, help me.
WoS Blacl Cat is a bad influence looool
Insomiac Black Cat was good until spider man 2
Why?
i disagree withh D, HER personalities are massive
yes thank you for saying this more design like her
The Black of Marvels Spider Man 2 Should it in Trash because they ruined it. She literally just showed up to say she's a lesbian and that's it.
yeah a woke politics lesbian game SM2 even mj is woke
Put edge of time black cat in D, opinión rejected
What’s your counter argument?
I agree with everything said about insomniac’s version of black cat. Erica lindbeck nailed it harder than any prior black cat. You know you made an amazing version of the character when your only complaint is that they should have been incorporated into the game more.
How about the one who would keep her hair down
The animated series black cat is fuking hot
90s/2000s and their goth girls
I think the "Spider-Man 2" (2004) video game has the perfect Felicia Hardy / Black Cat blueprint with its take on the character. I know that Felicia Hardy / Black Cat was technically in "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" (2014) movie, but if they ever decide to have Black Cat be a character in the MCU alongside Tom Holland's Spider-Man they *definitely* need to take inspiration from the "Spider-Man 2" (2004) video game with how it represented Black Cat because it *definitely* has the best written version of Black Cat outside of the comics. I honestly think that version of Black Cat is even better than the one from the "Spider-Man: The Animated Series" (1994) cartoon and "The Spectacular Spider-Man" animated series. I love how Felicia Hardy / Black Cat in the "Spider-Man 2" (2004) video game tries to convince and persuade Spider-Man, with no sort of malicious or malevolent intent at all..., that his life would be a lot easier if he just gives up being Peter Parker to be Spider-Man and her chemistry and conversations with Spider-Man in that game are *very* compelling and I love how she acts as sort of a reflection of Spider-Man himself. 100% agree with you on that Felicia Hardy / Black Cat being S tier.
5:55 - The awkward part about "Spider-Man: Edge of Time's" Black Cat 2099 is the frankly weird and bizarre implications behind her existence lol... Like..., did anyone working at Alchemax question why company funds were being used to replicate their CEO’s ex-girlfriend as an enhanced genetic duplicate? No? In my head I'm just imagining an Alchemax employee going, "Hey, are we okay with the CEO using company funds to make a clone of his dead ex girlfriend? We are? Okay…” lmao... But Katee Sackhoff is still definitely one of my favorite Black Cat voice actresses and she's honestly up there with Holly Fields and Tricia Helfer and I would be happy to hear Katee Sackhoff voice Black Cat more often in other things besides just her one performance in "Spider-Man: Edge of Time".
WEB OF SHADOWS IS S TEIR
I got to disagree with you on that black cat 2099 that boss fight being mid, that boss fight was not made that was the dictionary definition irritating. Like her clones are spamming their attacks while she's attacking you, whittling down your health. And you have to fight for like four times with scattered health pickups throughout that little hydroponic jungle... They don't ever seem to heal you enough.
I see your points, the clones were an annoying distraction for sure but I wish they use the map a bit more, fighting in the fake jungle, as cat hunts you. The small tight space would make you confused if it was the clones or cat.
Fun fact: the Insomniac Black Cat took so long to be animated because the developers needed to do it with just one arm 💦🍆
Idk about you, but I think Felicia Hardy's the best Black Cat
You get the fuck out here with those horrible opinions everyone knows it Felicia Hardy is the best!
@@SoxatSea
damn, you don't have to be so passive-agressive
What's the song that played in the beginning
It’s a fan made ost for Black Cat for Marvel vs Capcom!
This my dude, if SM2 by Insomniac was done by Spider-Man fans we would got Black Suit & Black Cat story and romance, but unfortunately for us it's been done by wokies that force ugly MJ on us while propaganda us that we must now accept replacement of Peter with Miles, because Miles so diverse and fresh and fit, ofc since he a black character he gets superb electricity powers - that "Oh so suddenly" a weak point to every character in the game, Venom somehow not afraid of fire..... but Miles can beat him in 3 rounds with being son of Electro, oh Harry dying? - Electro Jesus is here, not like Peter can build some shocker device for his webshooters... nah Peter You NErd, let Miles to take care of electricity puzzles.
yes right thank you SM2 is woke olitics mj is bad black cat GIRLFRIEND france that was bad she should be in new york and with peter not this woke stuff and venom immune to fire and miles delete him make only peter spiderman game not miles
Spectaculer and insomniac are the best
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Personally I always liked the first Insomniac Black Cat suit more in Spider-Man PS. just feel like it looks more cool and less seductive. Alway thought the armor was sick. I never liked the new suit she had (for five minutes) in the second game. First suit also had retractable black Panther like claws. Just made the second suit look like a cat woman rip off in my eyes. Even if it’s the original design.
Insomniac's version had so much potential for me. Giving her a kid? Damn that's never expected from Felicia. You can explore so many story ideas from that. In her theme, especially the last minute, is the most surprising thing for me because it's EMOTIONAL and it means she has a soft spot. Why bother if your character has a rock solid personality which can lie about having a child? Just give it a theme that sounds mysterious and jumpy. They didn't done that. And Peter's theme is actually can be heard in that last bit so I'm assuming she still carries a part of him. With her father is on the game too, I waited Insomniac to continue her story and explore who she really is in the second game... but... And but... You can figure out how annoying it is. They canonised magic in just 5 minutes so she can be wiped out from the story.
Dude that’s exactly how I feel. I was so excited to see her story went from sm1. A more mature Fecilia who may have kid would been a cool topic to explore. Sm2 just left my head scratching and with more questions. Black Cat solo game??
@@SoxatSea I wish... if we were still on ps2 era we would definitely see a black cat spinoff from this story. Unfortunately everything requires too much money now :(
@@Amiktus ain’t that the truth, I’d honestly would play a insomniac black cat spin off set it Paris, a sly cooper type game
Wait, is the problem with Disney Infinity's take is that her mouth looks weird? Her writing is off? Or that she's voiced by Tara Strong?
Yes
@@SoxatSea
So all three?
TASM just doesnt feel like black cat to me
Yeah it the first game she was so brutal
10:00 NUMBAH 86!
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Gotta say, when i saw WoS Black Cat as B tier i was really disapointed, but after watching the rest of the video, i really understood why. Pretty good!
Thanks for hearing my opinions out!
its obviously black cat
Idk Black Cat makes a pretty compelling argument
The edge of time suit is amazing I love the design and figure and black cat should cover herself a bit more the male gaze does jot make a great character.
i like PlayStation 4 and 5 versions
Hmmm... what if I say "neither"?
i like the picture where the six spidermen are pointing at your profile picture
Comments saying Black Cat shouldn't be bi, clearly haven't even bothered to pick up a comic book and actually do any research before going on a drunken tirade...
People just want to be mad.
Insomniac Black Cat is the best in gaming and she is hot
Catwoman clears idk..
In whatever verse in where shes not a part of the alphabet mafia
What's wrong with that?
Cat women, there you go
Easily it’s insomniac
Who is the best black cat ? No who is the best cat : catwoman
But she’s not a BLACK cat tho. Did you know when Marc Wolvman was making the character he didn’t pull any inspiration from Catwoman? His main inspiration was old cartoon called Bad Luck Blackie, about a black cat that brought bad luck