Memories Of The Future | ATTACK ON TITAN | Reaction 4x20
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"Memories Of The Future"
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Hajime Isayama Original Series: Attack On Titan - Shingeki no Kyojin
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Greatest show of entertainment media
The only anime that breaks the internet every season.
Here are some shows I think u can add for future reactions-
Black lagoon
Steins gate
Code geass
Monster-2004
Hunter x hunter
Okay now do Hunter x Hunter
@@shashwatmishraalumni4918 Code geass and stein's gate mentioned. Raaahh take my like +1
Grisha's VA did a phenomenal job in this episode.
the emotion in his voice at the end there is so impressive. Absolutely not something everyone could do
I agree. I had chills the hole time.
i dont think they understood what happened in this episode, all the memories and futur thing flew over their head
100%, top shelf!
He absolutely killed it
it took me awhile to realise that grisha was not seeing eren at all!! instead grisha was seeing himself thorough eren's pov (basically seeing himself though eren's memories) and even when he hugged zeke, he was just hugging air and eren was standing infornt of zeke and ghrisha saw zeke through eren's pov
How was he hugging air?
@@agnetasteam Because Zeke isn't actually standing there, Grisha is viewing Zeke's presence through Eren's eyeballs as a shared memory
Uh no, that makes no sense. Grisha is clearly making physical contact with Zeke. Eren was also able to grab Grisha’s shoulder when making him kill the Reiss’s
@@agnetasteam if you was far a way you will see him hug the air but in his mind he was hug zeke
grisha wasn't just seeing himself thorough eren pov, he was feeling his anger too
' It's a whole new show again ' - If a show can make you feel that way after 79 episodes, then you know shit's GOATed.
I have rewatched the whole show in between each season and it is literally a different show each time. That's the GOAT part of AOT for me, on top of everything else, obviously ^^
@@sekishudaiSame! Shit's wild
One Piece is the same way! But preach tho. ❤🔥
Remember when we thought that the Colossal Titan was the final boss? Remember when we thought that the walls were the only defense of the entire human kind
One thousand episode piece, lets compare when its under 100 eps 😊@WhyRushHomie
"Somewhere down the line, someone could be watching this."
- Eren Kruger (Chapter 89 or episode 58 of the anime)
Just like he said Grisha needed to have a family and stay on his path to save Armin and Mikasa. He was the Attack Titan before Grisha and he knew of future events with no relation to the Founding Titan.
@@lk0324伏線ではある。エレンの言ったことが、クルーガー、グリシャ、エレンに続いてる
@@lk0324technically it was
@@lk0324ok if it isn’t for shadowing why did Kruger say Armins and mikasa name right before he have greshia the attack titan? Go back to that episode and watch what he said
@@925bayareatycoon hes talking about this line specifically, it isnt foreshadowing because one can easily take it in its literal meaning. Memories from past shifters are passed on to future ones. The part with armin and mikasa was foreshadowing. "Whose memories are those" because as eren said, it all happens at once and forever. Hes a mess mentally. As soon as he got the power of the founder and paths, he existed throughout the 2000 years. Eren 1000% did and possibly could have influenced the entire path of 2000 years to get to this point to free ymir, it was always ymir and the attack titan imo represents her desire to be free, it just took 2000 years to gain the power and rage build up to break free of her chains, she needed a real connection. Eren gained his freedom, by choosing how to free everyone else from the cycle and choose who to save.
8:57 "shush rod" gotta be the most funniest reaction so far
No matter what side you're on, nobody likes Rod Reiss.
@@thewalletfrl 😭😭 he was not likeable at all fr😭 but he had good intentions at the beginning😭
@@AcedOnez when he was a child yeah
@@waminalkent6705 a teen/young adult*
The way Isayama was cooking when he wrote this episode is like Yagami Light popping off writing in the Death Note.
Damm...i had the exact same thoughts 😂
Isayama was like: "Oh, so you thought, it couldn`t get even more crazy? Well, you`ve seen sh*t!" 😂
And then he overcooked it, tried to put it out with oil and then threw it into gasoline.
And he did it.... while eating a potato chip.
i heard the ”music” 😂😂😂
When eren kissed historias' hand, he saw everything that day. Everything till the end. That is why he asked conny: What was sashas' last words. And conny said "meat". Eren laughed because of madness because he saw that he couldn't change the future anymore.
Rather, he saw everything that future Eren chose to reveal to past Eren. He says later on (major spoiler alert!) that he doesn’t even know whether or not his friends kill him (or maybe it was whether they survive). So he doesn’t necessarily know everything. Future Eren is manipulating past Eren by selectively showing him memories just like he did with Grisha.
No he didn’t see EVERYTHING. He just knew that he’d gain control of the founder through Zeke and start the Rumbling as well as having to convince Grisha to kill the Reiss’s, he just didn’t know the circumstances leading up to it(like having to convince Ymir to side with him, Gabbie blowing his head off or Sasha getting killled)
@@notnotandrew that’s insane
@@notnotandrew yes because he wanted to change it after all.
wrong eren didnt see any future memories completely when he kissed historia
he only saw bits and pieces of it
in the manga its shown much better
he didnt knew sasha was going to be killed and he only saw what future eren send it to him
If you pay attention to the words Eren used to manipulate his dad, it was the same words Kruger told him before giving him the Attack Titan. That’s why he knew saying it like that would get his father to act.
well actually the words that kruger said were the words eren used😂 you got it alright but kinda opposite
I think it's the opposite. I think it was Eren speaking through Kruger the first time, saying whatever would motivate Grisha to go through with it. It would have been Grisha's first time hearing those words, Eren's second time using them to push Grisha to do what he wanted to do. Manipulation born out of having already seen his Father's memories and knowing what would emotionally resonate with him.
@@anwarihosein3889 One sure thing is that it was Eren's doing !😅
@@anwarihosein3889 I didn’t say who’s words they were. I just said they were the same words.
But you did say that eren said those words because he knew it would work because he knew it worked when kruger said them@@Supergh0stTV
The reason why Grisha can see Zeke is because he's seeing him through Eren's memories. Every time Grisha sees Zeke Eren is always standing behind him facing Zeke behind Grisha.
Also the reason why Grisha makes that surprised face when staring at Eren is because he's directly looking at himself.
Also also Eren telling Grisha that he's the one that started this story is the same line Eren Kruger said to him when giving him the attack titan.
All of these events were seen when Eren touched Historia's hand at the end of season 3.
They're showing moment of a kiss in this episode actually 😊
This future memory shit is really unique and clever mechanic to use in this storytelling. I wonder if Isayama created it himself, or Eren just whispered on him to write it
100% sure it was Eren
In the anime, the first episode doesn’t show Grisha’s head while he’s showing the basement key to Eren. But in the manga, in the very first chapter, we see Grisha inexplicably staring off to the side while showing Eren the key. This odd quirk made no sense until the chapter corresponding to this episode was released.
I"m really sad that nuggets like those didn't make it to the anime. Putting it all together makes it that much sweeter when you have all those bits and pieces.
one of the greatest plot twists of all time
"It's been Eren this whole time??"
"Always has been" 🔫
lmao😂
"Always will be"
Nah the whole world is evil I'm a yeagerist Im not a traitor I protect my family, my people and my country
Here's what I love about that episode. That showdown wasn't really between Grisha and Frieda... it was between King Reiss's will from the past vs Eren Jaeger's will from the future, battling through their surrogates.
No it was Grisha and Eren bypassing the King's will by stealing the founding Titan. They knew that they couldn't fight the King's will and had no hope of undoing it so they didn't bother. They just ate the royal. That's why Eren said to Grisha "you know what you came here to do". That's why Eren got pissed off when Grisha started appealing to Frieda rather than doing what they came to do. Steal the Titan.
No, the royal family couldn't break free from the vow like Zeke did. Remember, Zeke didn't actually possess the founding titan - he was just a royal titan touching the founding titan. Which means he still had free will. Because Frieda actually has the founder's titan, she is controlled by King Fritz's will. To behave like Zeke, they would have needed someone who wasn't possessed by the founder's titan to cooperate with them.
Exactly! When he says he nullified the vow, he meant that he could undo it so future inheritors wouldn’t be bound by it since he had full control of the founder at that point.
Can someone explain the vow renouncing war in simple terms ?!
@@akashdatta5149 King Fritz made his family line submit to his will - to make a kingdom cut off from the rest of the world. And to one day accept the world's hatred and let this kingdom be destroyed.
Even though they have their own thoughts and personalities, if any of his direct descendants (those of royal blood) eat the founding tian, Fritz's will takes over. This was to prevent them from rebelling and attempting to destroy the world. Instead, they would keep their population naive of the outside world and wait for Eldia to be invaded.
I just never understood why Frieda was so weak. Wasn't her supposed to control the most powerful titan? Like I think she was supposed to win over Grisha in that fight
@@enzoys She lacked combat experience with her titan. She was just 18 by then and the Royal family likely saw no need to train for combat. Grisha meanwhile fought his way to the walls when they were still swarming with titans beyond them.
eren is basically permitting his father to see through his own eyes, so that he can interact with Zeke and say he is sorry.
I could literally comment every episode about how amazing these two are because they never disappoint. The combination of genuine reaction and intelligent review... These girls are the best anime reactors I've ever seen. This episode was no different, they catch on so well to so many things and the tears and smiles are so relatable. 🎉❤
For once I'm really glad how off-base they were (which is so rare). They were saying "Oh so Frieda must kill them then?" and I was like "omg this is going to be good, they aren't even thinking that Eren could play a bigger part"
The biggest mindfuck of this episode was when I realized weeks after the fact that the speech Eren was giving to his dad was the exact same one Kruger gave to Grisha.
"You keep moving forward, even if you die, even after death. Aren't you the one who started this story?"
Pretty sure it's word for word.
18:20 “everyone is a victim of circumstance … but im not excusing the horrible things everybody does” hayley summed up the show. she may actually be commander of the scouts.
11:34 a quick flash of Eren from the medal ceremony showing what he saw when he kissed Historia's hand
“Mikasa, Armin? Who’s memories are these?”
Turns out they were Grisha's. "You have to lean how to control this power to save Armin and Mikasa" is word-for-word what Grisha was crying to Eren as he was about to inject him. We see it in the episode where Eren stops the cannonball to save Armin and Mikasa. We can now confidently surmise Grisha actually saw Eren transform to stop the cannonball to save Armin and Mikasa.
Of course Krueger would recall this memory of injecting Eren when he himself was about to inject Grisha and teaching him how to transform. Dejá-vu.
5:38 Haylo noticed this! This was written more obvious in manga. Isayama gives us this foreshadowing in the first episode already!
The story was so good that even the fandom was separated to Jaegerist and Scouts supporters.
The empathy you guys feel for the characters in this world is touching. You guys are have such great commentary and insight! I hope you enjoy the rest of the show!
The way Eren stares back at Zeke in chains like he's the messiah giving the "It was me all along" eyes
You mean the devil.
For me the best fiction episode, I remember that I couldn't sleep when this same episode was broadcast in manga.
Time travel ability = Attack Titan (ability to see past and future) + Founder Titan (ability to transcend time and space) + Royal blood (Zeke's genes)
no no, the attack titan doesn't have the ability to see past or future, they just all received memories from the future inheritors, because the founding titan has the ability to transcend time and space
When im in pain i actually watch there videos over and over again i actually feel like we share the same pain deym im so deep 😢 i love this channel 😢❤
when eren said he was disgusted, he was actually referring to himself. you can see here that these are the memories he saw when he kissed historia's hand at the very end of s3, and then after that we get the sea scene, where eren is VERY different compared to how he acted before. He saw himself making his dad end the Reiss family, which was what disgusted him
That part really blew my mind when I first read it lol, it was so frustrating that I had no friend to talk about it with because they weren't caught up to the manga at that time.
Have you witnessed that Eren had his moment of silence when he saw Mikasa. Keep that in mind
There you have it, Eren has basically been in control of everything since before(/after) even he knew he was capable of it
Or is he slave to “fate”?
Haylo & Kiss are also being manipulated by Eren to do the reactions
@@trigunner6968I actually laughed out loud 💀
Bruh the mother twist was more shocking to me and the fact that it wasn't emphasized or talked about more is crazy
this episode contains my favourite moment not just from this series but from any. Been looking forward to this reaction
“You keep moving forward. Even if you die. Even after death.” -Eren
“You keep moving forward. Even if you die. Even after death. -Eren Kruger" -Eren Jaeger
-Michael Scott
I look forward to this three times a week, thank you!
Idk how many episodes ago it started, but she’s been in tears constantly XD
The way the whole episode was handled is epitomic. The voice acting, the OST, the tension in the scene. Isayama did it, Mappa did it .....one of the greatest episode in television.
Eren was controlling everyone who inherited the Attack Titan since the first one. Because as he is the last, there is noone to control him. Like how King Fritz controlled all people who inherited Founding Titan. The only difference is, King Fritz controls from the past, Eren controls from the future.
actually eren's also been controled by future eren so far
Hence the first episode title:
To You, in 2000 Years: The Fall of Shiganshina
oh..wow!🎉
I wouldn't call it "control". He didn't control Krueger for example. Rather, Eren's will and fighting spirit were passed down (up?) backward through time, not unlike how these things get passed down for other titans.
@@elheberright-the attack titan is what it is because Eren is who he is. Time stuff gets messy though, you could also pretty easily buy that Eren and the attack titan are the personification of Ymir's longstanding, repressed wish to fight back.
Greatest episode of entertainment media
So, I'm not sure if you guys picked it up, but here is how the Future stuff works:
Eren sent memories to his father of the future. He showed his father his own memories of what will happen in the future... But he didn't show him EVERYTHING, just snippets. THEN, when Eren touched Historia's hand, he saw all of his Dad's memories.. which included the future memories that (future) Eren sent to his father.
So Eren can only see the future because IN the future, he sends those memories back to his dad, and then once he sees everything that his dad knows, he also sees those future memories. A bit confusing, but hopefully that makes sense.
So that's why Eren changed at the end of Season 3 right after the Historia hand kiss.. He became more sad and cold.. And thats because he saw his dads memories.. which means he saw the future that he sent back to his dad.. So he knew that he was going to start the Rumbling, but he didnt know WHY.. so he spend years trying to find away, but everything kept happening and he couldnt change what he saw..
Kiss crying and then laughing at the end. 😅
There is "What is hapeneen?" on minute 3. 😅
ALOT of people misunderstand how the attack titan works and whats happening in these scenes.
Technically in Japanese “Shingeki no Kyojin” means “The advancing Titan/The advancing of the Titans”; so you get how something/someone can “advance”? Because it sees the future, it can see forward and knows how to move.
Great reaction guys! Victim of circumstance is a great way to put it. And i never noticed the Zeke dad joke, too good lol
-I want to clarify about seeing the future, all titan shifters are able to see the past through previous users, but attack titan apart from being able to see the past but they can see the future through subsequent users, "only memories"
-What Eren did to Grisha was beyond the power of the Attack Titan, Grisha was able to see and feel Eren's presence and emotions as if he were by Grisha's side, deciding which memory should be given to Grisha or not is the power of Founding
-why is Eren able to use Founding better than Frieda and Zeke because Eren has memories in season 3 when Rod Reiss told Historia to touch Eren and he chose Frieda's memory from Eren because he wanted to introduce Historia about Frieda, while Eren who was asking questions " Have I been in this place before?” he got the memory of his father eating Frieda, then after Eren got to the basement and got the truth, he was still wondering if there was a truth that he hadn't gotten, which in the end when he kissed Historia he got his own memories of "Path" (that he himself did it not Grisha)
-Therefore what Eren is doing in "path" is using Zeke who takes him to his father's memories, which means not "Eren did it again "but Eren is doing it right now" remember there is no time specification in path but what certain is that they did faster in the real world
-As feedback from Eren, he showed Zeke that their father was a good father and he regret what he did to Zeke
"Rather than letting someone steal my freedom, i'll steal theirs first."
This is what made Eren do that to his father, his father tried to stop him from achieving freedom so he took away his by controlling him using the titan powers.
That's what that young pissed off Eren face symbolized... in the most most time looped twisted way, lol.
Bro watched season 4 long before we did 😆
The most epic twist in anime history.
“ it’s a whole new show again”
Yes, it definitely felt that way.
Just to clear this attack titan ability..
It's not able to see glimpses of future memories but rather the future inheritor can send back memories to the past inheritor.. that's why grisha says "why won't you show me everything eren"
yep that is how future eren selectively showed bits of memories to s3 eren when he kissed historias hand
But then why did Eren see some of his future memories exactly at the moment when he touched Historia? Why not before or after that?
@@SanketPatolesince he has the founding titan and because he kissed historia's hand
a royal blood
he could see it
@@SanketPatole he was seeing the memories before that as well.. but it just happened to be he got those future memories when he kissed historia's hand.. to clear your confusion, they weren't exactly future memories they were still grisha's memories cuz eren or anyone can't see future memories.. those memories were sent to grisha by the Future eren of that timeline and then they became part of grisha's memories when eren kissed historia's hand he unlocked more grisha's memories including the memories Future eren sent to grisha
@@AM17titan
1. If it's about possessing Attack Titan+Founding Titan and then touching royal blood, then how could Eren Kruger (Only Attack Titan) see Eren Jaeger's future memories without possessing Founding Titan and touching royal blood?
2. If it's only about possessing Attack Titan+Founding Titan, Then how could Grisha Jaeger (Only Attack Titan) see Eren Jaeger's future memories without acquiring the Founding Titan first?
3. If it's only about possessing Attack Titan, then how could Eren sleeping under the tree see future Eren i.e. attack Titan's memories of Eren's mom being eaten?
4. If Eren's Attack Titan (only) intentionally sends future memories to past holders of Attack Titan, then who sent future memories of Flying Jaw Titan to Falco?
It just stuck me now, after all these years. Zeke is like the first kid who every parent sort of screws up or at least makes a lot of mistakes with. But, then the second kid, or Eren, comes along and by now the parents have an idea of how to parent and things are a lot different and better.
Eren repeats Kruger's words to Grisha about finishing what he started. The setups and payoffs in this show are amazing.
Also you're right about pretty much everyone being a victim of circumstance, and that's what makes the whole thing so tragic. Because every choice made by every single person in this story makes logical sense from the perspective of the person making said choice, and when you try to put yourself in their shoes it gets real hard to claim that you would have acted differently.
Kiss, you're right about... that's the reason Eren was disgusted
16:25 Their prediction of the future plot is just INSANE, are they the Attack Titan too? 😂
And it's sad they dont agree with what Eren is going to do smh 💔
@@daniel.m5278 No, it's completely normal.
@@lk0324 no what it is everyone is just soft. In the beginning everyone is with Eren to obliterate all the titans. As the series goes on ( S4 specifically ) we get introduced to new characters and grow a soft spot for them. Now all of a sudden we aren't on Eren's side . Bunch of soft hearted traitors everyone.
Everytime Grisha “saw” Zeke, Eren was standing BEHIND Grisha, giving him “a good view” from his perspective and thus sending those memories via the power of the Attack Titan. When Grisha was showing young Eren the key, he was staring at future Eren because he was getting a memory from future Eren’s pov staring BACK at Grisha but from Grisha’s pov… no one is in front of him. So he was getting 2 perspectives of the same event. He KNEW someone was watching him but can’t see future Eren because he can only see everything from future Eren’s pov in addition to his own, which includes future Zeke.
Ppl may disagree but I have Grisha in my top 10 AoT characters… anytime he’s on screen the pivots are so monumental and gut wrenching you just can’t ignore his character.
Oh shit here we go
The really crazy thing is that Eren and Zeke are showing each other (and us) who they really are through this whole episode.
7:36 The reason Zeke was able to brake the chains was because those chains were fake and were designed to trick Eren. Zeke never was bound by the will of King Fritz because he isn't the one wielding the Founding Titan. Frieda wouldn't be able to do it.
We've now reached the "I can fix him" part of the show 😂
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, the PATHS have led us all for this very moment. This episode is basically the clash of the First King's immovable will of the past to Eren's unstoppable desire for the future.
Kiss is actually onto something here with her analysis of what Eren did with the memories.
13:50 to be clear, Eren cannot send memories back, all the Attack Titan can do is use the same memory transference ability the rest of the titans can, except it goes both backwards and forwards. Grisha just asked why he wont show him everything because fom Grisha's PoV it feels like he's being shown a curated set of memories, but we as the viewers know this isn't the case, 1. because it's never shown at any point in the show, but 2. because Grisha also has seen memories that directly contradict Eren's goals
One of the greatest plot twists in anime history, Eren, the master manipulator. Also Grisha's VA never fails to send chills down my spine. holy fuck
She was crying when his father said he is gonna show him the basement. She never knew what is next.
Congratulations on 100k!
THEY MADE IT
9:54 You missed the scene from the previous season where Eren unlocks all these memories when he kisses Historia's hand. That's when Eren changes completely
They didn't miss it.... and this is a spoiler
@@SalayaSkystone how's it a spoiler? It's an explanation for something that already happened last season...😅
@@victorswaroop2289 the moment yes, the revelation is still to come...
@@SalayaSkystone it not a spoiler you 🤡 when ur shows last season
That post discussion is crazy, i loved it
if you notice eren only came to know why he was there when grisha sees zeke in the basement
you could see eren was also shocked
before going into the memories and during it eren constantly told zeke to get out as he was no longer brainwashed
notice how after witnessing grisha see zeke, eren quickly realized why he was there and THIS TIME told zeke to go to next memory thats why he thanks zeke at the end
12:34 seeing this make me wanna cry with her too 😭
every time
Love how you're so involved on this series and doing all this analysis.❤
You are right, after the reveal in this episode, it is another show again. Only this time, it is not the remaining episodes that are different, but all the previous ones. This is a much bigger reveal than you realize.
The power of Attack titan is not seeing the future, but the ability to send back memories to the past. Which means the current owner selects what the past owners see and when they see it. When Eren was shouting "Fight, fight" to the mirror, he was sending back a memory, telling someone from the past to fight or most likely telling his past self to fight.
You know how they say "The attack titan always rebelled against power and seeked freedom". But isn't it weird that no other of the 9 titans had any personality attached to them? That is because the Attack Titan also does not have a personality. It was just Eren, sending memories to the past owners and manipulating them to seek freedom and rebel to power, either directly or indirectly. That is why "The Owl" knew the names of Armin and Mikasa, that is why it asked Eren's Father to save Armin and Mikasa.
The entire history of Attack titan is just Eren dominating everyone with his personality and ideals. It is kind of like the "War Renouncing Wow" of King Fritz, only backwards and through sheer will.
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one of the gratest plot twists of all time and memes were born. Really meme of Eren standing over Isayama (SnK creator) telling him what to do when he was writing the story is just peak pop culture
OK so just to help you guys out, not sure if you really read these comments but here’s an explanation for the attack titan‘s secret ability: if you remember the owl knew who Mikasa and Armin was when he was talking to Grecia passing on the powers, this is because Aaron through the attack titan power goes back in time to give future memories to the Attack Titans of the past. So really only the attack titan‘s of the past can see the future. When Aaron kissed Historia‘s hand, he saw his father‘s memory, and saw what HE himself did. Which is why he had an horrific look on his face. Zeke throughout the episode isn’t picking up on these little hints that he’s seeing them despite the fact that they are from the future. It’s not until the revelation of Zeke realizes that Aaron wanted him to take him into the past so that he could force his father to kill the Reese family. So every single attack titan in history Aaron manipulated so that he would get the power, so that everything will fall into place for him to get the founding power so that he could accomplish his goal.
Yeah I don't buy that. As far as we know, Eren only sent memories to his father. We saw him in front of the mirror trying to learn how to send memories, and in this episode we saw the first time Eren finally learned how to do it in the basement with Zeke. We also know that in the future, Eren will send Grisha mere glimpses of the rumbling, because Grisha said so.
@@elheber I will first respond to your initial point, that being that he only sent memories to his father. Are you saying that all the past Titans could see the future but that only Grecia saw it from Eren directly? It’s clear that the memories shown to the past Titans are chosen by either Eren or Ymir. That’s number one. Likely Eren. But given that Eren in someways is an extension of the Ymir, this still barely makes a difference. Either way, the past attack Titans are given glimpses, they cannot see the full future. They are only see what they are allowed to see. This is why Eren Krueger said “You have to save Armin and Mikasa.” This doesn’t make sense if he chose to say this on his own volition given that he doesn’t know them or care about them at all. It’s Eren who is having him say this. The rest of your points don’t contradict a single thing I said before. So I don’t know why you decided to stay at those points. So I don’t disagree with any of them
@@bossisin2510 "Are you saying that all the past Titans could see the future but that only Grecia saw it from Eren directly?"
Yes. Grisha saw glimpses of Eren's memories, Krueger saw glimpses of Grisha's memories, and whoever came before Krueger saw glimpses of Kueger's memories.
"This is why Eren Krueger said 'You have to save Armin and Mikasa.' ”
Krueger said this because it's word-for-word what Grisha cried to Eren as he was about to inject him. It was deja-vu. Likewise, Grisha said that to Eren because he saw a glimpse of Eren needing to transform to save Armin and Mikasa, probably from the very same canon in that episode.
@@elheber you make great points to back up an argument that is false. In order to fully dive in to this and find the answer, we have to look at where titan abilities come from, who dictates them, and what the end goal for these choices are. Every titan ability comes from God, or the devil, or life, whatever you wanna call that being that your Ymir ran into. This being has one goal, to survive and thrive. It is clear that it is meant to represent the evil that is inside all of us. The monster that is within, that we are all capable of being. As long as the Sting exists, evil, chaos, war, will exist. It is the evil within. I am saying this to point out the fact that it really is meant to represent more than it is to be, we are not meant to assume that it has any higher deeper motives, and we are not meant to treat it as a character. Ymir on the other hand we are. Ymir’s end goal from the time she entered the paths, was to get Eren Yeager to help her be free. She has the will but lacks the strength, she has the strength but lacks the will. By joining forces they both get what they want. But where it gets interesting is whether or not his will is even his own, or if it comes from her. This is where the show gets incredibly complex and deep. But that has nothing to do with our argument so I will move on. The point being, you are wrong… No, it’s Eren using the power of the founding titan(ymir) to send memories back in time. Grisha mistakenly thought it was the Attack Titan’s power. So did all the previous attack Titans, there’s no way they could understand what was really happening. It had to be the attack titan that Aaron received, Emmett had to be him that freed her, so she made sure that none of the other Titans had this ability or knew about disability including the founding. It’s in her power to dictate which titans have witch abilities. All things titan related or under her control. This is why the attack titan can “see the future” it’s more so so that Eren/Ymir can manipulate all of them to make sure the events that need to happen for him to get the founding happen. Now it’s important to note that he doesn’t happen to disability until he receives the founding. But that is the only reason why the attack titan can seemingly see into the future. It’s a founding titan ability, that can only be accessed by someone who is not held down by the kings wish, and it only affects the attack Titans. It is not an ability they just randomly have because that’s how it happened and they just happen to have it. now there is an argument to be made, that it is not Eren who uses the founding titan power to manipulate the past to ensure the future/present, but Ymir instead. This would make sense. A large chunk of evidence to point to this would be the first episode, based on the titles of both episode one and 80, and based on the fact that at this point Aaron has not been given the titan serum yet, it is Eumir that since Aaron a vision of his future while he sleeps under the tree, to subconsciously lead him to that future. If you need further explanation for this specific point let me know, if you don’t know what I’m referencing. So the fact that your mirror was directly sending visions to Aaron without him having the attack titan ability, points to the likelihood that she played a major or main part in sending visions to the previous Titans. And that eren only effective Grecia. But there are instances of Aaron affecting and manipulating the past to ensure his own success, like him sending Dina to kill his mother. Which of course like I explained, all of this is only possible with the founding titan‘s abilities. But either way your theory assumes that the attack titan is a random ability, and the visions you see are random, and if the wheels of the attack titans up until eren are free. This could not be further from the truth. Also whether or not it’s Erin or yimir that manipulates the past, it almost doesn’t matter given that Eren‘s own choices are in question on whether or not they are actually mirrors. Whoever it was, or whether or not it was both of them equally, the point is that the past attack titans were manipulated.
Aaron
An 80% emotional episode, 20% savage, as usual.
"Let's watch the next one..." "YES", that got me XD
The best Episode of Anime History in my opinion, very well written.
You're not ready for the next episode, it's going to be amazing
props to Isayama🙏
This is the best episode ever.
Never clicked so Fast
Man you two are so empathetic, it’s so heartwarming, beyond the quality reactions I just hope you both know that the way you both feel for and understand these characters on such an innate emotional level speaks volumes about you both as people, sometimes you can just tell some people are good
This episode is definitely the best of the whole season, probably the whole show. Grisha's voice actor deserves every award for his performance in this episode.
I've always interpreted it as the attack titan shows you exactly as much of the future as you need to see to guide you towards the desired outcome.
My mornings are better with your videos, thanks
Grisha's VA came back from the dead and absolutely nailed the role
What? He had episodes in S3 after the Battle of Shinganshina. Not to mention Zeke’s flashback episode
@@GorramT yup in all that episodes he stole the show just by his voice acting
I don't know if you missed it but there was this one scene in season 3 they showed here again, when Eren kissed Historias hands and he was just petrified in the moment. He basically made contact back then. To me it implied that he saw all this and. After that he became much more not himself. Remember when they got to the sea for the first time and he couldn't really feel anything
I can feel you guys! It was also a roller coaster ride of emotion watching this amazing episode, and I had teary eyes in the end witnessing the reconsiliation between Grisha and Zeke. I've been looking forward to watch your reaction for this episode.
You guys are smart and receptive! I really understand the confusion you had about the Attack Titan's ability in seeing the future. I believe you guys will have better understanding later.
Grisha's VA .. is just ... tour de force!
Grisha brainwashing Eren?❌
Zeke brainwashing Eren?❌
Eren brainwashing Grisha?✅✅
Voice acting in this episode is absolutely phenomenal. Gets me every time
I have waited 2000 years for the next ep. Be ready all the subjects of Ymir, His name is EREN YEAGER!!!!
Ore no nawa Eren Jeager
7:35 Zeke could only break the chains because he had royal blood but didn't possess the Founding Titan, thus wasn't bound by the oath renouncing war. Plus he never wanted to start war in the first place, he just made the chains to fool Eren
Oh that's right! Even if he WAS bound by the oath, he'd still be able to enact his euthanization plan. In fact, Karl Fritz would have probably shown up as a ghostly apparition to give Zeke a smile and thumbs up.
@@elheber that would've been a dope twist
The ultimate dominate t-pose eren pulled off towards the end will never not be funny.
Back to back the best eps
You will literally experience the opening theme song in the next episode
😭 12:50 same like all the eldians have been suffering so much and it’s none of their faults like….i wish the world would just let them be happy and have a nice little island !!🏝️ it’s also wild to think there life could’ve been peaceful this entire time had Marley not continued to send titans over like…they never would’ve had a need for the walls…
From here on, we are passengers in a car with the creator of AoT behind the wheel jerking it LEFT...RIGHT...LEFT...RIGHT...LEFT
What an episode. Wow. When Grisha goes crazy at the end, it gets me crying every time. ❤
Past and the future all happen at the same time, is like a circle dont have beginning or end, is cycle of time. The oast affect the future and the future affect the past all at the same time. Past and future are conected.
Zeke: "Our dad traumatized me"
Eren: "I traumatized our dad"
What a twist! Love you guys