BMW R1150RT VS R1200RT Ride Review

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  • @rickyathonda1370
    @rickyathonda1370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great review and spot on review on the R1150RT. Bought my first BMW bike in January and it's an '04 R1150RT and will definitely keep this one for a while. Very comfortable ride and it performs well at speed and in the twistys even on two up riding. I have 80k clicks on the clock and as long as it keeps turning over I'll keep riding!!

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent! love it, Ride and enjoy!

  • @Boterberg
    @Boterberg 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watched your video, bought an ‘04 RT1150. Sold it after a year because I wanted a nakedbike. Watched your video again, again bought an ‘04 RT1150. Dude. These bikes are awesome even on today’s standards.

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ahh thanks for checking out the video again!!! They are great bikes it's hard to argue with bikes that work so well!

  • @TheSharton71
    @TheSharton71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the best explanation and demonstration I’ve seen so far. Thank you

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!
      And thank you for checking out the video!

  • @daledahlman9629
    @daledahlman9629 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for the video,my 02 has 95thou still runs good, few other issues but not bad for the mileage

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for checking out the video, 95k miles is quite respectable mileage!

  • @raynic1173
    @raynic1173 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow, I just checked google maps, that road, rt. 130, form San Jose to Patterson, looks awesome.👍

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@raynic1173 it's a great Rd!

  • @edwinrosales986
    @edwinrosales986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video! Have been considering a BMW and after watching this video I am convinced! Can't wait to watch the one with the 1200RT. Have a great weekend!

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, next Friday! Hope you enjoy. Have a great day!

  • @Roger_Ramjet
    @Roger_Ramjet ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The oil cooler intake is a nod to the BMW auto grill.

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah! I definitely like that, it's a cool look

  • @raynic1173
    @raynic1173 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's the funny thing about counter steering, everyone does it (even if you don't know your doing it). But when you do it consciously, it transforms your riding ability...

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@raynic1173 definitely!

  • @terryanderson8354
    @terryanderson8354 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Considering both of these. Thanks for sharing this.

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the end I do prefer the 2009 -2013 bike with much, much better breaks and other updates that make it a bit more comfortable!

  • @thedolphinDog
    @thedolphinDog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For a bike that age front window super clear. Nice review....I'm on my 3rd 2004 1150RT. 2nd one needed a clutch and output shaft....to expensive so I sold it bought another.....fun bike. They are NOT super fast....that good for old guy like me

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great bike but I can see there are issues that can cost more than the bikes value to fix, glad you got a good one to ride!!!
      Thanks for checking out the video

  • @lunarluna
    @lunarluna 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thx for the great review and a trip down memory lane on the mt hamilton road. I used to live in livermore in the early 90's and me and my honda hawk were on that road as often as we could. Such a great ride!

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ah the road is the same now as it was then, the junction has changed hands a cupel of times attempting to make it in to more of a hangout, but still the same road, lots of fun!
      Thanks for checking out the video

  • @scrumpymanjack
    @scrumpymanjack ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting review. Thanks for posting!

  • @Tax2Me
    @Tax2Me 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this terrific “endorsement” of my saddle of choice. I own two of these and cannot wait to watch your 1200 review. I might as well decide to trade one up? We shall see.

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for checking out the video, there are great bikes, and the 1200 is a bit more of the same great stuff!!

  • @pauloakes5718
    @pauloakes5718 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love to see you ride in Cheshire England.I
    RY for those roads.Great channel and not a bad bike

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I would love to do some riding in England some day!
      thanks for checking out the video and channel!

  • @hugomaragano8722
    @hugomaragano8722 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video, congratulations

  • @jivadaya6439
    @jivadaya6439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've heard many folks say when looking at the RT's: "buy the most your budget will allow" and for the moment our budget is at the low end of the spectrum... I'm just having a hard time pulling the trigger on a 1150RT or first gen 1200RT due to the age and the real possibility of buying within a desperately modest budget and the bike turning quickly into a money pit. At any rate, you've put together another excellent video :D

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The money pit part is the brakes, on the 1150 and gen one 1200RT.
      Many people get hundreds of thousands of miles on them. So if it has good breaks they are likely to stay that way for a long time, if the brakes are finicky or not quite right the repair can cost more than the bike is worth. If you find one that has been well taken care of they are fantastic bikes, at a great price

    • @Jmort93
      @Jmort93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I bought an ‘04 1150RT for $900 with a hole in a exhaust valve. A new exhaust valve is $200 so I opted to install used heads (long story) $189 on eBay both heads. I then carbon cleaned the heads and pistons (my estimated cause of the bad valve), lapped the valves. All with basic hand tools. The rubber brake lines and fluid were worn so I installed stainless lines and did the abs procedure found on TH-cam by the BMW guy. Very few repairs on this are too difficult if you have a set of torx and Allen sockets and a torque wrench. Easy bikes to work on! But you do need to be comfortable getting your hands dirty unless you want to spend big money getting repairs done at a shop.

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jmort93 sounds like a great project and the revival of a great bike!!!

    • @Jmort93
      @Jmort93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TRCAdventures It’s my first motorcycle project, I’m a BMW mechanic by trade so this is all new for me! Next up is replacing a rusted starter, tires and final drive/transmission fluid and it should be okay until the clutch decides to fail.

    • @jivadaya6439
      @jivadaya6439 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jmort93 Love it! Thanks for the kick in the pants to go for it

  • @sokodad
    @sokodad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would take either. Don’t want to sound greedy but would prefer both.

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both would be a good option!!!

  • @Sanisfaction
    @Sanisfaction 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed your video! The 1150 front brake does 100% for the front and i believe somewhere around 25%-ish rear modulation.. you can then use the foot brake to add more rear break if you wish to do so in a situation. Press down too much and you'll be "hopping" on some janky but effective abs-braking xD ... Rear brake pedal press is only linked to brake the rear as far as i know, it doesn't affect the front on my twin spark

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, in the older models it's interesting to play with how the brakes are acting and can feel where the system is stepping in, on the newer models it's a lot harder to tell when the system steps in.

    • @Sanisfaction
      @Sanisfaction 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TRCAdventures i'm glad to hear that! Gives me hope for the day i''m ever trading in my trusty RT for one of it's younger siblings! Ride safe brother!

    • @mybikegarage1040
      @mybikegarage1040 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The old bike had servo controlled brakes or what are called Wizzy brakes. The servo cuts in rather harshly at low speeds. Also true on the early 1200 models. The servo system is rather harsh and sudden in operation. You can really hear the servo motor running when the brakes are operated. Later model 1200s, like the 2009 model have a different system and that system has no servo motor running and has a standard brake feel. Even when ABS kicks in, it is difficult to even notice it in operation. The later braking systems are top notch and more reliable. The Wizzy brakes are a notorious maintenance problem if you don’t flush-out the servo reservoir every year, an expensive repair job to replace a failing system.

    • @Sanisfaction
      @Sanisfaction ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mybikegarage1040 yesss, maintenance is key! And compared to other bikes the servo is Indeed "harsh" imo,, but i can control 0-100 % with just a finger-tip,, once used to it,, i don't want anything different

    • @demiratmotovlog
      @demiratmotovlog ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually rear brake also effects front brake. You can check it, free the front brake pads with a screwdriver, start the engine and press the rear brake, you'll see the front pads will move...

  • @brianking3565
    @brianking3565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best tourer ever

  • @Jmort93
    @Jmort93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing I’ve heard from some technicians is that these 1150 engines suffer worn transmission input shaft teeth if you tend to ride in lower rpm range. It’s an engineering fault and shouldn’t happen, but these drivetrains wear better if you rev out each gear a thousand rpm or so higher than normal.

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not familiar with that, but I do see them with well over 100k miles on a regular basis and many with over 300k so they can't be too bad!

    • @erfft3903
      @erfft3903 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Motorworks ltd in the uk do a conversion kit to fix that spline stripping,it also lengthens the clutch life to over 100k so worth doing ;)

  • @5150Rockstar
    @5150Rockstar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cruise control is such a must on a tourer

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah yes it is, makes it easy to relax the wrist and also keep my speed down in risky areas!!!

  • @jadesmith6823
    @jadesmith6823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful journal brother 🤟

  • @luisfelipegonzalez6457
    @luisfelipegonzalez6457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What points would you recommend to review for buying one of these but from 1999 with around 70K miles? I really like the old style from the 1100RT

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The 1999 is a good choice, is doesn't have the issues with the ABS break pump.
      First this is clutch, they are a pain to do, and at that mileage it's likely close to or in need of a new clutch, if they did this than great!
      Look for oil leaks.
      Check for drive shaft slack, on the center stand with the motor off, put it in gear and rotate the rest wheel back and forth it should have a little movement but it should not rattle or have exsesive play, there should be a specification somewhere.
      Sould not have any warning lights
      Start it when cold preferably after it sat all night, no smoke from tail pipe.
      Most things are easy to fix on this bike, and I regularly see them with well over 100k miles.
      Best to stick with the 1999 or older or 2009 or newer!

    • @luisfelipegonzalez6457
      @luisfelipegonzalez6457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TRCAdventures Thanks a lot for the tips, i will focus on these guidelines, hopefully i can get one soon, here in Mexico are around the $3k - $4K USD tops depending on the condition, i believe is a bargain, the style is great for me.

    • @scrumpymanjack
      @scrumpymanjack ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TRCAdventures Is the 2009 different from the bikes of 05-08? I thought they were the same and that the big change was 2010, when they upgraded engine etc. Would love to know because I'm looking at a 2009 next week. Thanks in advance.

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scrumpymanjack ah yes a major update on the 09 is the breaks, they did away with the servo assist breaks that fail quite often and do not work if the bike stalls or is off. The new breaks are excellent, in 10. They changed the engine cam and I think exhaust valving for more RPM and a bit more power.

    • @scrumpymanjack
      @scrumpymanjack ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TRCAdventures wow. Thanks so much. Really helpful.

  • @judod97
    @judod97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the rack on 1150 is for the original top case

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  ปีที่แล้ว

      The cases on that bike are much more form fitting than the newer bikes, maybe not as much space but they sure seem to fit more snug to the bike and don't seem to hang out as far.

    • @judod97
      @judod97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TRCAdventuresyou mentioned duffel bags,i just corrected that. a proud owner here🙂have a nice day

  • @gregoryhood6647
    @gregoryhood6647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    looking at this bike impressed .

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you looking at the 1200 or 1150?

    • @gregoryhood6647
      @gregoryhood6647 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TRCAdventures that r1200rt is beautiful and looks like a low seat height too i am only 5-7 tall.. is that bike as good as it looks? by me just getting into bmw i definitely need expert advice on how to go about it. is that bike still available. thanks for your earlier response. oh i live in washington d.c. do these bikes handle stop and go including heat usage.

  • @ronmartin6091
    @ronmartin6091 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you talked about it accelerating out of lower rpm's you didn't say what gear you were in...
    I am curious to know how much you used the 6th gear E...?

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm trying to remember the reference in the video but the power off idle is likely the reference. As far as 6th gear all the time of the freeway best cruising great and best fule economy!

  • @tonyireland1434
    @tonyireland1434 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an 850 rt 2000 my first bmw i love it but its a bit heavy, I'm only 5, 6" i let the suspension down as much as it will go still a little tall, any suggestions ???

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  ปีที่แล้ว

      The best thing is to get used to sliding off to one side when you come to a stop, I ride some tall bikes and no way to touch with both feet. Learning to rely on one solid foot on the ground is best.
      The more you slide off the seat the more solid that foot is on the ground.
      Try this a few times in a parking lot first, and try swapping sides with a loose position in the seat! When you get the hang of this maneuver you will find it is much more secure than sitting centered on the bike. You may see that this is also the method more Police practice no matter how tall they are

  • @Vivabermano
    @Vivabermano ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @michielheleven5631
    @michielheleven5631 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey how do you film if I may ask? Is the cam mounted to the helmet?

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use a chin bar mount for my GoPro and a Sony mic in the helmet.
      Thanks for checking out the video

  • @mybikegarage1040
    @mybikegarage1040 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find your statements comparing power between the two bikes to be off. The 1200 motor is a complete redesign, lighter flywheel allows it to rev higher, lighter internal parts improve efficiency, allow it to rev quicker, higher and better gas flow through the engine allow it to make 15 more HP. I do believe the 1150 is smoother because it has that heavier flywheel. You do need to rev and slip the clutch more on the 1200 to get going from a stop. Add to that that the bike is 25 lbs lighter than the 1150 and the 1200 squirts away from the 1150 on acceleration runs.

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  ปีที่แล้ว

      The 1200 is definitely a more powerful bike, it also has more touque, It does build it a bit higher in the rev range, but it always feels more powerful even from a stop. Your statements seem to agree

  • @AdelShraim
    @AdelShraim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing. Goodreviews.

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, and thanks for checking out the video!

  • @gearjammer3688
    @gearjammer3688 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 1150 engine is a peach, but you need to remove the cat converter. Smooths the engine out no end and gets rid of that slow speed hunting.

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting idea, I've never had a problem with slow speed "hunting" but something to keep in mind!

  • @Crazygaucho62
    @Crazygaucho62 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What year the R1200 came first ?thinking about getting one , and don’t want to get the first year that came

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The R1200RT started in 2005 and I would agree you do not want one of the early ones, they replaced the breaking system in 2009 the early ones had an electric hydraulic assist that doesn't work when the bike stalls or is not running, also the linked breaking system is much improved on 2009 and newer bikes.
      2009 and newer bikes are much better!!

  • @georgetech380
    @georgetech380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys if any one knows please a questions about the RT 850 2000 1st gen....does it have any big problems in general engine ? gear box ? a friend of my want to get one .he found one with 70000km 2500eyro

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 2000 was an 1100, if you go back a bit farther there is the rt80 ?
      The early bikes with hydraulic brake assistance have known issues with them, the fix can far out cost the price of the bike. Other than that they are quite reliable bikes.
      The best most common advice is buy the newest RT your budget can comfortably afford. They just keep getting better!

    • @georgetech380
      @georgetech380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TRCAdventures thanks for the info ... actually in Europe BMW sold RT 850 since 1996 gen 1 with out brake servo assistant ,just like the normal bikes ,from 2001 they make the gen 2 850RT with servo assistant,yes I have heard about this problems , I was just curious if there is any issue with engine and gear box ... Thanks George

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@georgetech380 in the US we did not have that bike so I am not familiar with it sorry.

    • @georgetech380
      @georgetech380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TRCAdventures yes is ok after I read your message I thought you are in USA straight away ....many models we have in Europe don't come to America.... thanks again best regards

  • @flexjay87
    @flexjay87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1200 looks much much better !

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think I will have to agree with you on that!

    • @flexjay87
      @flexjay87 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TRCAdventures , I seriously thought about a R1100 as a second bike a couple years ago, and i found one close by with low miles. My Honda ST 1100 was getting some miles on it and i thought well its easier to replace it. But, after doing some research on the BMW , i decided not to buy one, and just bought a much lower mileage Honda . Seems like the 1100 had some issues in the maintenance / design area, that seemed excessively complicated. So, i am not all sure the 1200 is prone to expensive repairs, but i like the looks of it, and must say, the used prices are quite nice, especially with the features you get. I will admit, i am a little gun shy of German engineering, since i worked on some German products for about 25 years , and was not impressed the newer the products became. But i totally understand why these machines are popular, whether deserved or just perceived .

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flexjay87 well you can never go wrong with the Honda! The BMW'S are overly complex and there are definitely years where there completely gets in the way of reason and reliability, there are other years that seem built proof and a great value. Honda has always been reliable and a great value.
      As for the RT a sweet spot seems to be 2010 to 2013 for reliability and value.
      I would include 2009 in that with an exception on there fuel strip gas Guage (easy fix but worth the mention)
      The older bikes breaks and electronic issues can cost more than the value of the bike to fix, newer RTs are two to three times the cost, so the value is, well what it is, just not a great deal!
      Loved my newer RT but knowing I could have two or three just a few years older......Humm.

  • @zappa916
    @zappa916 ปีที่แล้ว

    vid promised so much, delivered so very little.

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry I promised more than what was in the video, I ended up making three videos that would cover the two bikes,and quite a few more on the 09 then quite a few with the next gen on a 2014 hopefully they can fill in a bit where I missed out on this one.

  • @web121212002
    @web121212002 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've spent 20 minutes expecting a comparison, per the description, between the two machines, enduring multiple ads and its only about one bike. the 1150RT. I can't find the other 'parts' so this is a mis-described review which wastes everyone's time.

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry about that, I did quite a few reviews and ride videos on these bikes.
      Here are the direct Links to the particular bike videos.
      2009 R1200RT th-cam.com/video/I1sXZHA2iHA/w-d-xo.html
      2002 R1150RT
      th-cam.com/video/h-Bz5Uda7e4/w-d-xo.html
      2015 R1200RT
      th-cam.com/video/su8m4lUgx2A/w-d-xo.html

  • @mybikegarage1040
    @mybikegarage1040 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too bad you didnt ride the R1200. Dont understand a comparison when you dont ride the other bike??

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair, I have reviews of both bikes individually. I compared them back to back on the same road on the same day!

  • @jadesmith6823
    @jadesmith6823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where's the 1200rt?

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/I1sXZHA2iHA/w-d-xo.html
      Thanks for checking out the video I have quite a few on the R1200RT!

  • @Roger_Ramjet
    @Roger_Ramjet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 04 1150 was much improved over earlier versions which surged really badly

    • @TRCAdventures
      @TRCAdventures  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It seems they just keep getting better! Fun bikes!

    • @Roger_Ramjet
      @Roger_Ramjet ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TRCAdventures absolutely. Great review. Definitely wanna ride that mountain. Enjoyed the rt1200 vid with your wife too.

  • @jadesmith6823
    @jadesmith6823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my beautiful 09 BMW 🇩🇪 R1200RT-p 🇦🇮🦘
    Perfect before the bullshit ❤️🇩🇪🇦🇮🦘💦