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I'm a all Blackmagic user, got 2 pocket cams and the pocket OG. Ended up buying the S5 a few months ago mostly for gimbal work. I WAS BLOWN AWAY. I had worked with the GH5 back in the day and it was a charm. The S5 is the buffer bigger brother to the GH5. The colors are so great to work with (Almost as much as Braw) and the whole body is great for both photo and video. It became a great B-Cam and a nice third camera for podcasts and stuff! Loved the video man! Keep up the good work! Found you through the Arri Alexa videos and got hooked since then.
An alternative option to consider is the S5's big brother, the S1. There was a firmware update for it that added a ton of video features, on par with the S5, and the S1 has a couple of differences/benefits- larger grip, full-size HDMI, tougher build, tilty screen instead of flippy, screen and EVF are much better, etc. Not gonna be better for everyone than the S5, but I do think it's worth considering. You do want to find one that already has the V-Log upgrade applied, though, as it's still $200 to buy that upgrade separately. Pretty easy to find under $1k with V-Log, though.
I was gonna write the same thing. For me, the MAIN reason to go with the S1 is for the unlimited recording in 4K 10-bit, while the S5 (original) has a 30-minute time limit on 4K 10-bit recording. Also, the S1 can shoot 6K (for 15 minutes) while the original S5 has only 5K (again, for 15-minutes) and is limited to 30fps (the S1 can shoot 6K at 24fps or 30fps).
Another solid choice is the a6400 or the a6500 ( or even a used a7r2 ) Hold up , let me explain Some hybrid users just dont have enough time to manually focus , esp not on a dark venue Most of my work is done wide open at f1.4 or f2 around 400-800 iso with normal color profile , slog pushes it 2 stops higher , and thats with the 180° rule. ( For context ) The last standup venue i was at , i was shooting f1.4 at 1600 iso on an a73 at 4k24 on cine2, it was so close to being too grainy/noisy , so i will have to say my explanation might be a bit overkill/nitpicky for someone who is okay with a little noise ( i am nitpicky that way ) Ive used the gh5s and anything above 1600 isnt unusable but it behaves more like an iso 4000/3200 footage out of my a6400 , so youd need an f1.0 lens to match its capability in less than perfect venues. Photo wise it doesnt matter much , cdaf dfd is sometimes even faster than hybrid pdaf based system.
I own the OG S5 for a couple of years now and paired with a Ninja V it becomes an absolute video beast! Recently I replaced it with the S5IIX to get better autofocus and more resolution and codec options, but I still use the S5 as a B-Cam. But I also always recommend Lumix if anybody looks for a budget friendly Hybrid-Camera.
I’ve been using the S5 for a few years and I love it. The learning curve is minimal if you’re coming from the GH series and the auto focus isn’t that bad, particularly for photos. I don’t really use it in videos though
This was my first Lumix. Now my b-cam. GREAT camera! especially coming from Blackmagic so the autofocus not being as good as Sony/Canon didn't really bother me as I was used to manual focus anyway!
I'm a little surprised to hear no mention of the Nikon Z5 as an alternative. I bought the Z5 as my first Full Frame camera and it's pretty good for an entry level full frame.
It might be worth looking at the prices of Blackmagic camera used too, they’ve always provided good value for money, I recently bought a BMPCC 6K here in the UK for £750 on eBay (just under $1000).
If you do mainly Photo, Go A7Rii or A7iii (depending if you need better AF or more megapixels) If you do mainly video, go S5. Undisputed video king at that price point.
@@FoxTailWhipz 😍😍 Welp, that’s my next purchase then! Ugh, your channel just drains my wallet, though - first with the Nikon D7000 rec for photography (brilliant suggestion, btw!) and now this lol
I can't speak to the other options, but the S5 works very well for events and weddings as long as you shoot within certain parameters. It doesn't work well for situations requiring tracking AF, like tracking the bride down the aisle, but it will lock on for single images/takes quite reliably. Video and image quality are stunning at all ISOs. Use native lenses if you want decent autofocus, because the EF adapters are not up to that level. A secondhand S5 with secondhand Sigma 24-70 or 28-70, plus a 50/1.8 and 85/1.8 is a relatively affordable and reliable package for a wedding shooter.
If you use that camera you will probably want to use Magic Lantern Crop Mood Wysiwyg. It will allow you to shoot RAW video files. The normal footage looks worse than a high end smartphone made in 2024. Low bit rate 1080P is what it offered standard.
The Lumix S5 was on my list when looking to upgrade my Fujifilm X-H1, however I really can't live without phase detection autofocus. For critical video work I'm generally using a recorder anyway, so it having internal 10bit video was nice, but not exactly a novelty feature for me. That's why I ended up going for a Nikon Z6 instead. Better autofocus all around (especially with the latest firmware), can also do as a sports / action camera if I want it to, and the camera itself was under 700€. I don't use it, but I was lucky to get one that has teh 12bit RAW upgrade for external recording, so I have this on hand if the 10bit N-Log get limiting (which I'm pretty sure it will not). It was also nice to have teh FTZ adapter as I could get a ton of Nikon F mount glass for really cheap, most of those lensesa re absolutely fine on the Z6, especially the latest AF-P models.
Hello, Can you help? I have bought my first camera as R50 With 18-45mm kit lens + 50mm f1.8 lens. I didn’t like kit lens much as my iphone 13 pro pictures were better. And I really liked 50mm lens for great portrait. But when i went to London last week I could capture most of the places properly as i was not able to fit both subject and background like London eye or big ben in one frame. I had to move bit far to capture both. Now i have ordered 16mm 2.8 and 28mm 2.8 and I’m travelling to barcelona and rome next week. Can you suggest me which lens carry to capture the iconic places with me and family ? Thanks in advance.
Ex A7M3 user here! The Autofocus in any log format on that camera is horrendous. It basically works like a slow hunting AF-S. For photos it is great, though.
The Panasonic S5 Mark 1 has unlimited recording time limit in 4K 8 bit and 1080HD 10bit and 8 bit. But in 4k 10 bit it has thatold 30 minute recording time limit.
I also got one z6, the photos which I am getting with it is very good. Only con is af tracking for fast moving subjects. You can also try 7artisans 50mm f1.05 lens manual but worth it in every aspect.
@@Commonyou7149 im more of a wanker for extremely sharp, no CA optics like the 50mm apo lanthar rather than a bokehwhore. So f1.05 would be rather useless if i shoot at f4 anyways.
I'd actually rather have a new Insta360 X4... where you can reframe your shots... As a one person operation, being able to reframe your shots in post is far, far, far more important than image resolution or sensor size. 600 bucks new in a big box retail store but you can get it much cheaper from China.
Canon c100. Full stop. It comes from a Professional Camera store where I wanted to buy a GH5. I asked if compared to C100 (available on used market) it could can compete. He had to recognize that C100 is another class camera. So, S5? No thanks. Pretty much the same color science, no nd, ergonomics, no sound, etc. limitations. I never cared for 4k or slow motion frame rates. But, I agree that the stabilization is one key feature, that in real world of the short films making, beats the C100.
Fuji xt3 is NOT close; 1) it only does 4:2:0 10-bit 2) it does not have ibis 3) it has much slower readout speeds, to the point where it’s unusable when moving a lot 4) its log is old, and the dynamic range is abysmal
For this price you can get another camera with 6k recording ( internally. Not exactly like this one ) better slow mo 240fps and better autofocus. The fuji xs20 is a much better buy .
My price point is $200 before I'll pull the trigger on my first new used camera. I don't know if you've noticed, but it's just so much easier now for video editors to create the footage they need in an instant with AI without any camera. I predict the prices of cameras taking a plummeting nose dive as they become... obsolete and superfluous to content creation. In 18 years on YT I've never needed one.
bought mine over a year ago for 880 bucks and i made the money back easily and i don't even shoot many paid projects. If you don't care much for auto-focus, the S5 will be as good and sometimes even better than many more expensive cameras.
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I'm a all Blackmagic user, got 2 pocket cams and the pocket OG. Ended up buying the S5 a few months ago mostly for gimbal work. I WAS BLOWN AWAY.
I had worked with the GH5 back in the day and it was a charm. The S5 is the buffer bigger brother to the GH5. The colors are so great to work with (Almost as much as Braw) and the whole body is great for both photo and video. It became a great B-Cam and a nice third camera for podcasts and stuff!
Loved the video man! Keep up the good work! Found you through the Arri Alexa videos and got hooked since then.
An alternative option to consider is the S5's big brother, the S1. There was a firmware update for it that added a ton of video features, on par with the S5, and the S1 has a couple of differences/benefits- larger grip, full-size HDMI, tougher build, tilty screen instead of flippy, screen and EVF are much better, etc. Not gonna be better for everyone than the S5, but I do think it's worth considering. You do want to find one that already has the V-Log upgrade applied, though, as it's still $200 to buy that upgrade separately. Pretty easy to find under $1k with V-Log, though.
I was gonna write the same thing. For me, the MAIN reason to go with the S1 is for the unlimited recording in 4K 10-bit, while the S5 (original) has a 30-minute time limit on 4K 10-bit recording. Also, the S1 can shoot 6K (for 15 minutes) while the original S5 has only 5K (again, for 15-minutes) and is limited to 30fps (the S1 can shoot 6K at 24fps or 30fps).
Yup, I love my S1. 6K video!
It can also do 4k 60p 10bit
When people always ask me, I always say Panasonic gh5. It is sooooo cheap now and still you get so good quality out of it.
Another solid choice is the a6400 or the a6500 ( or even a used a7r2 )
Hold up , let me explain
Some hybrid users just dont have enough time to manually focus , esp not on a dark venue
Most of my work is done wide open at f1.4 or f2 around 400-800 iso with normal color profile , slog pushes it 2 stops higher , and thats with the 180° rule.
( For context )
The last standup venue i was at , i was shooting f1.4 at 1600 iso on an a73 at 4k24 on cine2, it was so close to being too grainy/noisy , so i will have to say my explanation might be a bit overkill/nitpicky for someone who is okay with a little noise ( i am nitpicky that way )
Ive used the gh5s and anything above 1600 isnt unusable but it behaves more like an iso 4000/3200 footage out of my a6400 , so youd need an f1.0 lens to match its capability in less than perfect venues.
Photo wise it doesnt matter much , cdaf dfd is sometimes even faster than hybrid pdaf based system.
@@JJARCHIE Yes thats true
Even de Panasonic g7 More cheap and very capable
I own the OG S5 for a couple of years now and paired with a Ninja V it becomes an absolute video beast!
Recently I replaced it with the S5IIX to get better autofocus and more resolution and codec options, but I still use the S5 as a B-Cam.
But I also always recommend Lumix if anybody looks for a budget friendly Hybrid-Camera.
I’ve been using the S5 for a few years and I love it. The learning curve is minimal if you’re coming from the GH series and the auto focus isn’t that bad, particularly for photos. I don’t really use it in videos though
I grabbed a used Sony a7s this week for $425, so uh... I'll deal with the differences, this thing is ripped!
This was my first Lumix. Now my b-cam. GREAT camera! especially coming from Blackmagic so the autofocus not being as good as Sony/Canon didn't really bother me as I was used to manual focus anyway!
What’s the best way to film with s5 in manual focus? What would you recommend as additional gear?
I would get the Sony A7III, in december 2023 my local store had 6 used Sony A7III at $740 each in good condition with one year guarantee.
I'm a little surprised to hear no mention of the Nikon Z5 as an alternative.
I bought the Z5 as my first Full Frame camera and it's pretty good for an entry level full frame.
It might be worth looking at the prices of Blackmagic camera used too, they’ve always provided good value for money, I recently bought a BMPCC 6K here in the UK for £750 on eBay (just under $1000).
For sure! For strictly video use, used Blackmagic cams offer just about the best bang for the buck you can get.
Another option i would say if you just wanna take photos would be the sony a7r iii. I got mine for about 800 bucks!
That's a damn good deal. Those can still go for about 1300-1500 or so. You hit a lick
If you do mainly Photo, Go A7Rii or A7iii (depending if you need better AF or more megapixels)
If you do mainly video, go S5. Undisputed video king at that price point.
Suggest an external recorder. Wired and wireless
Hey, I saw that board next to the lake, said "Lake Superior". Where along the lake do you live near? I'm on on the west end.
Interesting take, I went with the Fuji xt3 with a grip
I chose the S5 over the s52 and Sony because of the colours - they are so Leica like.
Does it have focus peaking?
Yes it does!
@@FoxTailWhipz 😍😍
Welp, that’s my next purchase then! Ugh, your channel just drains my wallet, though - first with the Nikon D7000 rec for photography (brilliant suggestion, btw!) and now this lol
What about the Canon R8?
I need a full frame body for hybrid photo/video wedding coverage…. Considering this one but wondering about autofocus performance vs other options
I can't speak to the other options, but the S5 works very well for events and weddings as long as you shoot within certain parameters. It doesn't work well for situations requiring tracking AF, like tracking the bride down the aisle, but it will lock on for single images/takes quite reliably. Video and image quality are stunning at all ISOs. Use native lenses if you want decent autofocus, because the EF adapters are not up to that level. A secondhand S5 with secondhand Sigma 24-70 or 28-70, plus a 50/1.8 and 85/1.8 is a relatively affordable and reliable package for a wedding shooter.
You only talked about mirrorles, what about DSLR s like canon 5dmkiii
If you use that camera you will probably want to use Magic Lantern Crop Mood Wysiwyg. It will allow you to shoot RAW video files. The normal footage looks worse than a high end smartphone made in 2024. Low bit rate 1080P is what it offered standard.
Do a vid on the cinepi cinema camera
Bay furnace! I love that area!
The Lumix S5 was on my list when looking to upgrade my Fujifilm X-H1, however I really can't live without phase detection autofocus. For critical video work I'm generally using a recorder anyway, so it having internal 10bit video was nice, but not exactly a novelty feature for me.
That's why I ended up going for a Nikon Z6 instead. Better autofocus all around (especially with the latest firmware), can also do as a sports / action camera if I want it to, and the camera itself was under 700€. I don't use it, but I was lucky to get one that has teh 12bit RAW upgrade for external recording, so I have this on hand if the 10bit N-Log get limiting (which I'm pretty sure it will not).
It was also nice to have teh FTZ adapter as I could get a ton of Nikon F mount glass for really cheap, most of those lensesa re absolutely fine on the Z6, especially the latest AF-P models.
Since this is still being sold the used price shouldn't skyrocket!
The canon r8 has no ibis which is a big big no no at any price point
Hey man quick question. So I have the UHS i, but I don't get the options to record 1080p 120fps. Or do I need the UHS ii for that frame rate?
Hello, Can you help?
I have bought my first camera as R50 With 18-45mm kit lens + 50mm f1.8 lens. I didn’t like kit lens much as my iphone 13 pro pictures were better. And I really liked 50mm lens for great portrait. But when i went to London last week I could capture most of the places properly as i was not able to fit both subject and background like London eye or big ben in one frame. I had to move bit far to capture both. Now i have ordered 16mm 2.8 and 28mm 2.8 and I’m travelling to barcelona and rome next week. Can you suggest me which lens carry to capture the iconic places with me and family ? Thanks in advance.
Hey! I think the 16mm on the R50 will be great for that. It’ll be wide enough to get a lot of the background in your shots with the subject.
Ex A7M3 user here! The Autofocus in any log format on that camera is horrendous. It basically works like a slow hunting AF-S. For photos it is great, though.
Can we get the video about all the cameras you got off eBay? I’ve been waiting
It’s gonna be my next video! 😄
The Panasonic S5 Mark 1 has unlimited recording time limit in 4K 8 bit and 1080HD 10bit and 8 bit. But in 4k 10 bit it has thatold 30 minute recording time limit.
I got a nikon z6 for 650, which is, id say, quite a good deal too
I also got one z6, the photos which I am getting with it is very good. Only con is af tracking for fast moving subjects. You can also try 7artisans 50mm f1.05 lens manual but worth it in every aspect.
@@Commonyou7149 im more of a wanker for extremely sharp, no CA optics like the 50mm apo lanthar rather than a bokehwhore. So f1.05 would be rather useless if i shoot at f4 anyways.
I'd actually rather have a new Insta360 X4... where you can reframe your shots...
As a one person operation, being able to reframe your shots in post is far, far, far more important than image resolution or sensor size.
600 bucks new in a big box retail store but you can get it much cheaper from China.
Nikon rules!!!
Canon c100. Full stop. It comes from a Professional Camera store where I wanted to buy a GH5. I asked if compared
to C100 (available on used market) it could can compete. He had to recognize that C100 is another class camera. So, S5? No thanks. Pretty much the same color science, no nd, ergonomics, no sound, etc. limitations. I never cared for 4k or slow motion frame rates. But, I agree that the stabilization is one key feature, that in real world of the short films making, beats the C100.
it cost more than a used Sony A9 here in Indonesia
the autofocus isnt that bad, either.
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Fuji xt3 is NOT close;
1) it only does 4:2:0 10-bit
2) it does not have ibis
3) it has much slower readout speeds, to the point where it’s unusable when moving a lot
4) its log is old, and the dynamic range is abysmal
You forgot to mention the Nikon Z5
Id say the canon eos r8 is a better deal
For this price you can get another camera with 6k recording ( internally. Not exactly like this one ) better slow mo 240fps and better autofocus. The fuji xs20 is a much better buy .
My price point is $200 before I'll pull the trigger on my first new used camera.
I don't know if you've noticed, but it's just so much easier now for video editors to create the footage they need in an instant with AI without any camera.
I predict the prices of cameras taking a plummeting nose dive as they become... obsolete and superfluous to content creation. In 18 years on YT I've never needed one.
bought mine over a year ago for 880 bucks and i made the money back easily and i don't even shoot many paid projects. If you don't care much for auto-focus, the S5 will be as good and sometimes even better than many more expensive cameras.
The A7iii is older and has worse specs yet is selling for more on the used market, Just goes to show how overpriced Sony cameras are.
It's not all about specs. People forget that. Many will prefer good AF over 4:2:2 footage at that price point.
Why spend 900 when you get buy used current for 1500 or Makes no sense.
this makes zero sense
because 900 is less than 1500. hope this helps.
I mean you can use the savings for lenses. The 4k quality on the S5 is the same as the S5ii.
Canon R8 overheats easily.
Never overheated on me.
meh sony A7c stilll better
how?
This camera is better in every way besides autofocus lol