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For 99% Hindus, we dont learn Hinduism from books. We learn it from the culture of diversity and acceptance that is practised around us. Marwaris in Kolkata fast (veg) during Navratri and Bengalis feast (non veg after anjali) during Navratri and there hasnt ever been the slightest friction. Many go pandal hopping proudly declaring themselves as atheist and nobody even blinks. That defines Hinduism for me. Hinduism is like 'Go do your thing, but if you need me I'm here'.
sadness alone does not help, other emotions need to be utilized by us. Excessive colonization of our minds by invaders has atrophied them. Do or die is here, staring in our face.
Hinduism is not a religion. The question of conversion does not arise. You can be in a mandir and still question the existence of GOD because India has always been a land of seekers. Seeking the truth independent of whatever your belief systems are. That is the beauty of Hinduism and that is reason why people of indian origins will never have a problem living side by side with other religions.
Seeking part is correct. But how do you know what you are seeking is in right direction? My understanding is that we need a flawless map for the truth and then seeker tread that path. Vedas are such flawless map. If you ask why only they are flawless while others scriptures are not, then welcome to apourusheya vaada !
All the paths included in the Hindu Dharma viz Seva (Service), Bhakti(devotion), Karma (Yogic way of doing things), Yoga (by itself a practice), Yajna (Fire Rituals), Pooja (Prayer with Mantras), Dhyana (Meditation), Kriya (Internal Cleansing Processes),etc is all towards guiding the seeker to reach ultimate goal of liberation from the cycle of birth and death! Starting point for liberation is Seeking - to understand "Who Am "I"" When I say, Mine or Who Am "I" when I respond to a call against my name! The response, "I don't know" is the foundation! Then on it is matter of seeking!
Hinduism (Sanatan Dharma) is the universal religion. There is no need for converting any one in to Hinduism because goal of human life is to attain liberation which can be achieve by good Karma no matter what his belief or his practice system is.
Good Karma is not enough it is the way of purifying your existence but you have to be practice and realise then you can attend the real liberation before die
You have diksha initiation into a bona fida sampradaya from an Acharya Sannyasi. But this is not conversion. In Catholicism they have Baptism, dipping baby into the holy water. In Sri Vaishnavism the Diksha initiation process involves taking shelter of a guru, surrendering to Lord Sriman Narayana, and receiving the branding of Vishnu's Conch & Chakra on the shoulders. In Orthodox Christianity conversion involves Catechesis, "Catechesis is basic Christian religious education of children and adults, often from a catechism book. It started as education of converts to Christianity, but as the religion became institutionalized, catechesis was used for education of members who had been baptized as infants", a "Catechumen, a person who receives instruction in the Christian religion in order to be baptized". Hinduism is Sanatana Dharma, calling it a religion can be quite misleading, and calling it conversion is also misleading.
@@MrMikkyn fundamental principle of Sanatan Dharma is Karm yog. Do or perform our duties....Play our role in this world of Maya. But later our priest class has stopped teaching our religion to us as a part of possessiveness. Blood human brain function has always a link with motion of moon 🌙 or lunar lunatic effects of Vedic studies🧐🤔....pay attention to study it also. Buddha and Christ are important influential elements of sanadana dharma.
but we must ask why? why dont hindus convert others? it has to do with our view of god, not all religions view god the same way hindus view god as a parent/teacher. no parent will divide her children christianity/islam view god as a master. they have chosen to lower themselves down to slaves. master demands loyalty(belief) - that is why belief is stressed. you must declare your loyalty to the master we hindus are children of god, we remain at a higher level, we sit by the side of god, whereas they have chosen to kneel on the ground before us that is their choice
@@pradeepmdwp1842 Dude that was law which changes with time. Law never stays the same. It had to be amended at some point. But you took that like Muslim takes Sharia and thought this is it.
Seriously bro! Criticism of Hinduism is actually done by "Time"! Thousands of years of Invasions and Conversions (Only one way) still couldn't erase Hinduism from face of Earth. Talk about Hinduism when your Civilization(Religion) matures another few thousands of years.
It is important to recognise that he is not really a scholar, wendy doniger is his friend . And he even defended her once. The fact (37:00 onwards) is that is you cannot define hinduism. And the triabls are hindus. They are all incorporated, and not to thought of different. Yes, they were hindu. They do not have to have a label of hindu.
The political lens through which Hindu influence in ancient times is explained and described is the fundamental flaw in viewing the conversion process. The spread of Sanskrit and Hinduism was voluntary. Christianity has spread through digestion of religions and traditions and calling it their own. The spread of Christianity has been predominantly for political and control reasons, whereas the spread of Sanskrit in Ancient times was independent of such human rights issues. It is not a coincidence how western indologists can't seem to find any other way to explain the spread of a civilisation and its traditions other than by digging out political, oppressive and conflicting verses within texts, which may not necessarily mean that, and seem to loose their true meaning due to translation and technical jargon, since many original Sanskrit words are non-traslatables. Vivekananda too is subjected to this, with indologists claiming many of his ideas came from Christian influences ??!! This is the political digestion of his ideas. Shaunaka Das, quotes English, Canadian and Swiss Sanskrit scholars who are outside the Hindu tradition and do not have the adhikaar to make historical claims that suit vested interests. Indian history continues to be shrouded by false facts and claims which have their roots in colonisation.
soiledspot Well, Vivekananda claimed that "idol worship" (which, by the way, is a Christian term, not a Hindu one), is for spiritually undeveloped minds to realize the truth. This was his "defense" against criticism of "idol worship." Where did that criticism come from? Not from Hindus..... The worship of the archa-murthy is referred to in the Puranas as kriya-yoga, and it is NOT, contrary to Vivekananda's claims, a practice for primitive minds.
It is important to recognise that he (the speaker in the video is not really a scholar, wendy doniger is his friend . And he even defended her once. The fact (37:00 onwards) is that is you cannot define hinduism. And the triabls ARE hindus. They are all incorporated, and not to thought of different. Yes, they were hindu. They do not have to have a label of hindu.
AA You can certainly define Hinduism. Just look at its historical usage. The word "Hindu" was used by the Persians to describe the people living in the Indus Valley during their visits to India. These people followed a culture that was based on the authority of the Vedas. Therefore, Hindus are followers of Hinduism, and Hinduism refers to religious traditions that at least theoretically revere the authority of the Veda, and/or follow scriptures (like the Puranas) which accept the authority of the Vedas. It's a needless complication to point out that not all of Hinduism is "Vedic." But the fact is, not all Christianity is Biblical and not all Islam is Koranic. These religious terms are still conventionally used to describe religious traditions that at least theoretically accept the scriptures of their ancestral traditions. Defining Hinduism with reference to the Vedas gives us a meaningful definition of the term. By this definition, Buddhists and Jains are not Hindus, which is appropriate since their scholars don't self-identify as Hindus and don't accept the authority of the Vedas.
During Muslim invasion Indians were converted to Islam then Hindu Guru's then helped them convert back to their religion of parents. Ex of Hakka and buka of Vijayanagar empire.
I agree that Hinduism is about practice and those practices are what makes one a Hindu. While it may seem silly to someone born Hindu, a simple ceremony can serve as a rite of passage for someone wanting to make this transition. This can be significant if the individual was brought up in another religion or with no religious tradition at all. Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it and look forward to more like this.
i enjoyed his lectures before, but he is showing the U-turn theory propounded by Rajiv Malhotra. Is he seriously comparing crusades and jihad to Hindu conversions. There is a difference in accepting a system on their own----as in the case of Hinduism, rather than being forced under a sword, like the abrahamic religions. SRD seems to be mixing religion and politics here.
I'll have to listen again, I don't recall hearing it that way. Certainly those are completely different. I am not Indian and I was not raised with a specific religious tradition (actually mostly Theosophy) and I am drawn to Sanatana Dharma. It is interesting that some fully accept this about me and others do not.
Mick Goodman Mick Ramji, our tradition, and I consider myself sanataria, is quite accepting, but accepting it on all levels if more cultural than religious. It is not like christianity or islam where the basic cultures have been destroyed to the extent that whatever is left is all religious. So it takes time in santana. But do listen. There is this theory that non-hindus come, accept, learn and then return, never to give credit to where they learnt it from. But let me formally say, sanatana is the foundation, I try to stand on it, and welcome you to join me!!
I understand. I see this happening in the yoga community here in the West ... not acknowledging the source, so much is lost. Thank you you for your kind words to me. Namaskar.
Mick Goodman Great, when you see it happening make sure you mention it. knowledge has been stolen from all pagans. but presently it is hinduism everyone is stealing from. do speak up. thanks and namaskar.
hindus do not have an issue with following two religions. that is why they do not demand conversion. But Christians and Muslims demand not only conversion but also leaving what you had before, any connect not the religion or even to the family. This man does not really want to talk about that. If he is a hindu and does not consider himself a convert, then he should know that simple truth and that plain difference between christians / muslims and hindus.
We Hindus have no rigid principles. We can worship Jesus and Allah just like we worship other Gods and Goddesses. The problem comes only when they (The missionaries) try to impose their "strict monotheistic religious rules" on our beautiful and liberal way of living.
Ramesh Chaurasia May be initially. If you check your horoscope, you are categorised as belonging to one of the four varnas. Eg: mine shows me as Brahmin; my kids' shows them as Kshatriyas. These divisions are based on your date and time of birth. It interested me so much - i began casting horoscopes to check out how true it is. I realised that it is true to a large extent. My children, for example, are really "fighters", as compared to me who is a pacifist. I wonder if this was how the castes really came into existence.
@Anto Erickson There is no scientific , archeological or even genetic evidence for aryan invasion . Modern studies have discovered things to prove that civilisation in India was far more older then what these western history told you actually . The Saraswati( river ) civilisation mentioned in Rigveda existed long before the Indus( Sindhu ) Valley . There is evidence now for this depleted river . Also genetic science totally rejects the Aryan invasion . Every indian has the same gene . Probably the varied climatic conditions in India had it’s effect on how people look in a hot south India and a cool HImalayan region. But the genetically we are same . There si also a new theory that says that the modern civilised people actually migrated from India towards east Asia and Europe rather then the opposite -aryan invasion theory proposed without kuch supportive evidence .
A good talk that gives one view of what Hinduism could be looked at One comment : Hindus do not differentiate between the adherences of different people to their practises or their ways of worship or their understanding of spirituality.
My understanding is that the Hinduism is not an organised religion like christanity, Islam, Judaism etc. It is better to call it a Vedic Wisdom Tradition or Vedic Text, Literature, Vedic Culture etc. The ancient Rishis,who were highly enlightened, experienced the Truth, the Reality through deep deep meditation and expressed their realisation which can be found in Upnishad, Vedanta( means end of knowledge) etc. The purpose of expressing their realisation was to make the whole of the human race aware of real reality beyond the mask of physical reality which is why we find quote in this culture like "Vasudevao Kutumvacom" ( the whole world is one family). It hardly matters whether one believes in God or not according to this wisdom tradition. Hence, we find no moral maps imposed in this culture. Society does not care or mind if people do not follow rituals. You may take the path of atheism, no matter. So coversion to Hinduism and leaving Hinduism is rediculous according to my understanding. We need to introduce as Hindu in modern fragmented socity, otherwise in deeper reality each of us is extended body of God.
The commentary at the very end is so Sanatani. The world is one family and this includes the flora, fauna, rivers, lakes, seas and the mountains. It is an ecosystem that sustains life and we have to bring balance in the ecosystem by following our dharma.
The point is well taken that Hindu religion emphasises practice rather than the belief system but the technical problem of a person evolving into Hindu faith through practice is the caste . Which caste would that person assume? If the person or his ancestors had belonged to a particular caste of Hindu community then as ascribed status it can automatically be transferred, theoretically speaking. Moreover other religions like Islam and christianity also have practises besides the belief system so we can’t say that only Hinduism can be defined on the basis of practises.
WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU? By Francois Gautier 1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted 2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik 3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak. 4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman. 5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools. 6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it. 7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure ! 8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead. 9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest. 10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion) 11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi. 12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy. 13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic ! 14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship). 15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy 16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan. 17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study ! 18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped. 19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism! "Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family) 20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival. Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year. 21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu. 22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved. 23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu! 24) You know that Hinduism ☺ is a way of life, with considerable freedom. 25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe! 26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint. 27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily) You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu! This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!! There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every direction".
*32:39 The ruler became Buddhist(Ashoka) because he was fed up of violence! As in Buddhism, it's strictly non-violent unlike Hinduism! And just because he converted to Buddhism doesn't mean he converted everyone especially Hindus to Buddhism! *It might also be like this because of as in cases of Christianity, Islam, etc. they have atleast one major country in world while Hinduism has only India! *35:07 I mean if a person is comfortable at being a Hindu, it doesn't mean that he/she has to follow everything in what is written in texts! He/she can choose the way as please + don't need to change religion or be an atheist or so! Just like if a marriage isn't working for sometime and it's not that bad, u don't get divorced immediately, right!? *I like ur logical POV Sir though!*
Sir huge respect for you ... very good and deep analysis of Hinduism..every word of yours is truth.. regarding Tantra process , yes you are right pooja is a tantric process if followed in a right way or process .. in Satya Narayan pooja priest first make a tantra then starts the pooja..
Hindu means tolerant person add it in English dictionary Aham Bramhasmi ! applicable on total universe Aham Bramhasmi = i am a nano part of this universe and so do the entire universe
I have been seeking and learning bit by bit these past 20 years and I am in my mid thirties and somehow feel my understanding of Hindu spirituality is much better than this guy. I learnt nothing ! My understanding about how to be a Hindu remains as it was before I watched this - i.e. one is neither born nor initiated as a Hindu...one becomes a Hindu at the point they realise they are one. I was born a Hindu...lived the first quarter of my life as an agnost and am now a Shiv Bhakt. Om Namah Shivaya !
All these guys have an underlying Christian bias and some inferiority complex.. think it this way, only Hinduism needs to be disparaged through lies, so you stick to truth and Hinduism is just too good.. while in case of other religions truth hurts them and you have to lie to protect them.. THIS IS HOW DIFFERENT HINDUISM IS ON LIE DETECTOR..
I also added this comment above for this professor. Why these guys have to be so irrational so overtly, while being professors? Every reason they use to disparage Hinduism goes against every other religion 10 times or an order of magnitude more. He says Vedic is not Hindu because it doesn't suit him or Christians? Right? and Buddhism is Budhdhism irrespective of Mahayana, Heenayana or now all kind of variations from Chinese to Cambodia to whatever.. Forget about Christianity or Islam there you can hardly say what they are given the text have all kind of ambiguities so in reality the text cannot be followed from one verse or one page to another with any guarantee. TRY TO UNDERSTAND THIS- WHATEVER PARAMETER YOU WILL TAKE TO DENY HINDUISM, THE SAME WILL BE APPLICABLE MUCH MORE TO ANY OTHER RELIGION BUT LESS TO HINDUISM BECAUSE THE UPANISHADS, starting from 1000 BC or 3000 years ago, define the core of HINDUISM or Sanatan Dharma comes from the oldest Upanishads..
@@Subudhdh I didn't find him disparaging Hinduism at any point in this session. Rather its other way round, I think. He is just pointing to the fact that there is no word as 'Hindu' in Vedic texts. The word is dharma or sanatana Dharma. Also he is emphasising that don't play in the hands of Christian model. Hinduism has a different model. Go to your original roots. What is the platform where Hinduism can be studied academically? What's the platform where these questions can be explored and discussed in a non judgmental way? I think rather than becoming insecure and uncomfortable when these questions are raised, its an opportunity to dive deeper and engage with them. I am thinking about how and where we can talk objectively about these questions and the points discussed... without bringing any other victim card or pain points or insulting any tradition or person.
@@PremanjanaDas That guy, you and us all of us first need to understand that religions or ideologies, even philosophies are not mathematics. Secondly, Hinduism has many orders of magnitude more precision and structure than Abhramic religions, thirdly, given that most religions speak different languages, there is never one to one comparison. Again abhramic religions have neither structure nor accuracy. But always remember Hinduism is orders of magnitude wiser/refined than not just other religions but also any other philosophy, while most German philosophers read Hindu ideas/Upanishads, but in their inferiority complex they mostly did so to somehow find ways to disparage it. However, some like Schopenhauer became too fond of Upanishads etc. The whole idea of spirituality peddled worldwide, through any religion, etc, whatever is from Hinduism and primarily from Upanishads. You let me know what your questions are and I will try to answer.
you are Samrat Kiranjeet, it is sad the born in India are not taking responsability in Sanatana Dharma. This also confirms that the body or the location where we take birth is relative in this Kali yug and also are the casts. Any honest of heart can qualify himself to serve Guru & Sanatan Dharma. Where do you stand ?
Remember, Best way to keep content is to recite it. In India, the process of Guru and Sishya ( Teacher and Student). When Britishers, Mughals destroyed/Burned Vedas Scripts. This was re-created it easily ( with some loss of verses) across india from Guru and Sishya.
I could answer that... By birth or practice. But I think I will rather like to listen to others perspectives .. and thats what I am actually here for.. No? 😊
The fact that I am a Hindu is not my religious identity. It's actually a geographical identity. It all originated from the geographical place known is ' Sapta Sindhu'. Our religion is actually called ' Sanatan Dharma'. Sanatan or Sanatana actually means traditional. The tradition also includes ' atheism'.
there is difference between conversion and shuddhi. shuddhi means purification, it means you have chosen to be purified you have been given a chance now, a start , the end is in your hands if you can continue to walk on this path of purity or not
It is Sanatan Dharma and the argument that the majority of Hindus converting to Buddhist and Jain is false and we claim Jain and Buddhists belong to Sanatan Dharma
Yeah , it is that India was never a religious persecuting society and was open to various school of thoughts . The basic idea of all these dharmic tradition were still the same like moksha , punarjanm , karm , Dharma .. and Hindu was an umbrella word used by outsiders to depict various traditions and spiritual paths in India which was different then Abrahmic way .
The conversion in present time is necessary for different reason. With increase in population of other religions there is danger of loosing land and Hindus may end up like Jews. The world needs more liberal religions.
Yes , this nobody is addressing. Any place where Abrahmic faith takes over in India it turns dangerously less indian and non - secular . For example one state in Kashmir, what happens to hindu minority never happen to minority in Hindu majority states . Same in some north east which has turned Christian attacks Hindus again. Also leading to separatism . And great idea of the west is to break India by conversion . They always wanted a broken India fearing the resurrection of the glorious India of the past . Even the partition during the independence was a well thought out plan .
Anyone can convert or adopt to the Hindu/Yoga Dharma. Of course this means great study and comittment. Anyone who says you can't convert does not know Hindu Dharma ; i.e. Tat Tvam Asi. In other words, who can tell the Atmana where and in who it can incarnate!
If you don't cover Adi Shankara's Advaita Vedanta philosophy then you are skipping the bona fide or genuine approach of study of hindu coversionism.🙄🧐🤔
hinduism means worship god as u like there is no barriers we hindus oppose my god is the only god in the universe policy this thinking made India a largest democracy in the world
There is no concept of conversion in the Sanatan Dharmic view, which includes but is not limited to Sikh, Buddhist and Jain traditions and beliefs, as is understood in the Abrahamic faiths. Very often when one says "Hindu", he is automatically excluding the other faiths based on Dharma, Karma, Moksha, Yoga that were born in and exist only in Bharat. One may "follow" these faiths by practicing yoga/meditation, rituals, dress etc but that does not count as "conversion" as there is really nothing to "convert" to. In the Sanatan Dharmic view, EVERYONE is a "Hindu" by virtue of being human.
Foreign people coined term "Hindu" to classify people who do not subscribe to christian and muslims. Sanatana dharma, the internal religion is the iternal, forever. All abhemic religions forces people to live in captive. People need to understand. They need to realize the higher path and that is not to specific cult which forces people to do something.
@Shaunaka Rishi Das - Any person who starts believing in reincarnation, law of karma, and eternity of time with cycles of creation & destruction, & one ultimate supreme being is a Hindu. There is no need for a formal conversion then. These are the key differences between Abrahamic religion vs Hinduism
Sanatan Dharm is beyond a religion! Sanatan is Dharm or Dharma as a westerners would understand! Sanatan Dharm dharan ke yogya hai! Meaning Sanatan dharm is worthy of imbibing in one's life.
There is no conversion in Hinduism .Every one is born Hindu because in Hinduism one is not compelled to follow particular narrowed down codes of belief and worship as in Islam and Christian.Complex Human life can't be confined down into following a certain ways of conduct and believe systems. However in Hinduism also post Vedic Hinduism/brahmanical Hinduism became highly discriminatory where people belonging to brahman classes started claiming exclusive rights over whatever knowledge and wisdom pertaining to this religion claiming themselves purer class and, slowly and steadily driving out others people, barring them from entering worship places.Such behaviours of brahmins later on completely broke down unity among Hindus and become the main reason for mass conversation of non-brahmins to Islam time and again.
I also disagree with his story of Narad muni, Narad muni did not convert to a new religion, in the same faith he evolved to a higher being. Like for example Vishwamitra being a Kshatriya (Intellectual capabilities abilities, varna not caste) became a brahmin in the same birth, do you refer to this as conversion? This cannot be referred to as conversion.
Jesus Christ revealed from the Hindu Vedas 1 / 14 Jesus Christ, not founder of a religion Many people in India say that Jesus Christ was a great saint who founded the Christian Religion. The Bible tells us that all mankind have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Rom.3:23) and that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was sent by God to this world, to become the propitiation for our sins. Who is this Jesus? Apart from the Bible, let us know about Him from the ancient Hindu Scriptures. An Indian saint who had a thorough knowledge of the ancient Hindu Scriptures presented Jesus from the Hindu Scriptures. He is the late Adhyaksha Kesava Raya Sarma Mandapaka.. 2 / 14 Animal sacrifices at the altar of Temple All mankind have sinned, having transgressed the law of God. Therefore, they devise various ways and means as to how to escape the wrath of God, and live. In our own country, the Brahmins perform sacrifices, and the non-Brahmins offer animals in sacrifice. Now there is no need for killing the animals at the altar of temples now. But still devotees are performing such sacrifices ignoring the truth. 3 / 14 Sacrifice as the holy means of salvation An examination of the Vedas reveals that sacrifice is spoken of as the only means of salvation. “Prathamani Dharmani”; “Sacrifices are the foremost of our first duties.” “Yagnovai Bhuvanasya Nabhih”- “Sacrifice is the mainstay of the world”. “Yagne Sarvam Pratishthitam” - “It is sacrifice that bestows all things”. “Yagnovai Sutarmanowh”- “Sacrifice is the bark (boat) that enables one to live well”. “Yagnena Va Deva Divangatah” - “Only by means of sacrifice, the gods attained heaven” “Rutasyanah Pathanaya Ati Viswani Durita”- “Deliverance through sacrifice” 4 / 14 What does Bhagvad Gita teach? Let us also see what the Bhagavad Gita says: Slo. “Sahayagnah Prajasrushtva Purovacha Prajapatih Anena Prasavishyadhwam Eshavvostvishta Kamadukh” - “In the beginning alone, along with the creation of man, God instituted the sacrifice, and told them, “May this grant the desires of your heart” "Yagnakshapitakalmashah” - “Those whose sins have been effaced by means of sacrifice” “Nayam lokostyayagnasvah kutanayah kurusattama” - “Oh, noble Guru, there is no place in this world for him who does not perform even a single one of these sacrifices.. 5 / 14 What does Mundakopanishad teach? Further, in the Mundakopanishad, we see, “Plava hyere adrudhayagnarapah” - “The timbers of the bark of sacrifice are unsound”. In Skanda Puranam Yagna Vaibhava Khandam, 7th chapter, we read: Slo. “Plava eyete sura yagna adrudhasheha na samshayah” - “Ye gods, sacrifices are like the timbers of a bark; there is no doubt that they are unsound” Tandya Maha Brahmanam says, Sru: “Yagnota avati tasyachhaya kriyate” - “It is a sacrifice that saves. What is being performed, is the shadow of sacrifice”. 6 / 14 What does Rig Veda, etc. teach us? In Rig Veda, we read, Sru: “Atmada baladah yasya chhaya-mrutam yasya mruatyuh” - “He whose shadow and death become nectar shall, by his shadow and death, confer the spirit and strength”. The above sayings clearly reveal that the sacrifices performed do not themselves confer salvation but they are the type and the shadow of a great salvation-giving sacrifice. Aitareya Brahmanam says, Sru: “Yaja-manah pashuh yajamanameva suvargam lokam gamayati” - “He who offers the sacrificial animal; therefore, he who performs sacrifices goes to heaven” 7 / 14 What does Satapadha Brahmanam teach? Satapadha Brahmanam says, “Tasya prajapatirardhameva martyamasidardhamrutam” - God became half mortal and half immortal”. This means that He united in Himself the human and the divine. In the Purusha Sukta, we read that the God Brahma is sacrificed. What is evident from the above teachings is that the true and great redeeming sacrifice would be the one performed by the Sovereign Lord of this world, who putting on both mortality and immortality and becoming incarnate as God-man, would Himself be the sacrificial animal: 8 / 14 Rig Veda says about the sacrificial animal This is what the Rig Veda says about the sacrificial animal. It must be a goat without blemish..The “balusu” bush must be placed round its head.It must be bound to a sacrificial post. Nails must be driven into its four legs till they bleed. The cloth covering the goat should be divided among the four priests. None of its bones must be broken. The goat should be given a drink of Soma juice. After it has been slain, it must be restored to life again. Its flesh should be eaten. Now these details speak about the Lamb of God spoken in the Bible. 9 / 14 “Prajapatir yagnah” - “God Himself is the sacrifice” In the Satpatha Brahmanam, we read, “Prajapatir yagnah” - “God Himself is the sacrifice”. In Tandya Maha Brahmanam of Sama Veda, we read, Sru: “Prajapatir devebhyam atmanam yagnam krutva prayachhat” - “God would offer Himself as a sacrifice and obtain atonement for sins” 10 / 14 What does the Satpatha Brahmanam teach? In the Satpatha Brahmanam, we read, “Prajapatir yagnah” - “God Himself is the sacrifice”. In Tandya Maha Brahmanam of Sama Veda, we read, Sru: “Prajapatir devebhyam atmanam yagnam krutva prayachhat” - “God would offer Himself as a sacrifice and obtain atonement for sins” 11 / 14 What does the Bible teach? Thus, it is said that God Himself must become man, and then become a sacrifice to save sinners. But we do not read any such thing written about the incarnations of our country nor in the Sastras. There is no God-incarnate man, who died a sacrificial death to save sinners. But there is a country called Palestine in the west of Asia, on the Mediterranean coast, in the center of the great land mass of the world. In this country was born of a holy virgin’s womb, the incarnate God, in Whom were fulfilled all the details of the description given about the God-man. 12 / 14 What does the Bible teach further? Jesus was absolutely without blemish. He lived a perfectly holy life. He was both mortal and immortal. That is to say, He was both human and divine. He foretold His sacrificial death to save the mankind and then of His living again as death’s conqueror. He voluntarily surrendered Himself into the hands of wicked men, who loved sin, hated His teachings and wanted to kill Him. 13 / 14 What does the Vedas and Bible teach? If we examine the way in which Jesus was killed, we find that like the sacrifice of God Brahma as described in Purusha Sukta, everything said about the sacrificial animal in the Rig Veda, was clearly fulfilled in this incarnation. Bible says that there is no other name given under the heaven except the Name "Jesus" meaning One who saves people from sin, for our salvation. 14 / 14 What does the Bible teach about salvation? Salvation means forgiveness of sins by sinners by accepting the sacrifice of Jesus as propitiation of our sins through repentance. A sinner is born again of the Spirit of God and becomes a new creature in Christ Jesus and his old life passes away. The Holy Spirit begins to indwell the person after this spiritual rebirth. A sinner thus becomes a saint, the temple of the Spirit of God.
In Hinduism, God is the universal, infinite super-intelligent, SUPER-CONSCIOUSNESS which is everywhere within his creation and A SPARK of his super-consciousness is also within us in the core of our soul body. All of us will evolve as intelligent consciousness(souls) over many births and deaths until we realise THE IMPERMANENCE OF OUR MATERIAL BODIES and will seek to merge with the super-consciousness eventually. Therefore the need for conversion or even the concept of conversion does not arise
There can be Hindu Christians, Hindu Muslims etc. These days problem is these two religions identify themselves with Rome or Arabs. Our culture has been you worship your God with Indian way of worshipping and living with a thoughts/ideas of values that is Indian.
Speaker fails to see the rational. One cannot practice certain way unless he accept the truth is certain way. So, knowledge precedes behavior and it is foundation of practice. Such knowledge could be either based on blind belief (like in Abrahamic faiths) or based on reasoned system of philosophy (as in Vedanta)
I don't know how to say, it's too much! People are here in India are suffering from Muslim and Christian invasions for more than 800 years. As because Hindu philosophy accepts all, but don't accept atrocities committed by other communities! That's why Krishna said Arjuna to act. In later stage we don't allow others to enter into the Mandir, because when ever we do that you destroyed that and looted money from it. So, we became preservative with active consciousness!
sri. Shaunuka Rishi Das --I have heard quite a lot about you --Can you please show me at least ONE REFERENCE --JUST ONLY ONE REFERENCE -form any of the "SO CALLED" HINDU Scripture--"
Sri.DAS -Can You please show me just ONE REFERENCE --ONLY ONE REFERENCE from any of the "SO CALLED" HINDU SCRIPTURE (ORIGINAL SANSKRIT SCRIPTURE) where the WORD "HINDU" is used.
There is NO such thing as NEO VEDHANTHA --ADVAITHA ASHRAMA (ESTABLISHED BY SWAMI VIVEKANANDHA) SANYASIS TALK THE SAME ADVAITHA --What Sri.SANKARACHARYA TALKED --
Do not agree with the priests keeping people out of a temple. There are a few where there is a tradition of gender rules and a set of pre-requisites of preparation prior to entry. That is ok but not on the basis of caste, colour, creed.
No one needs to be converted if any one says conversion to Hinduism then don't do such things you have to just read vedas and so know dharma all other will be done by yourselves no any kind of special practices are required
You can't convert into Hinduism just like you can't convert into a white person, or a Chinese, or an indigenous African or Native American. See the comparison? Hinduism is an ethnic identity and a way of life in the Indian subcontinent.
Mad people they even don't know 1% of Hinduism ......adn one thing is we aren't hindu .....we ar sanatani ..... Which means never end which continues thousands of years 😂😂😂😂😂😂 amd no one will gonna destroy us and one day the entire world become sanatani not by religion but by practicing 😜😜😂😂
For 99% Hindus, we dont learn Hinduism from books. We learn it from the culture of diversity and acceptance that is practised around us. Marwaris in Kolkata fast (veg) during Navratri and Bengalis feast (non veg after anjali) during Navratri and there hasnt ever been the slightest friction. Many go pandal hopping proudly declaring themselves as atheist and nobody even blinks. That defines Hinduism for me. Hinduism is like 'Go do your thing, but if you need me I'm here'.
Well said
well said but not practised by and large
Hinduism , There is no cconversion, it's acceptance and practising way of life
You are talking about Brahma Rishi Vasishta's version of Hinduism.
But, what about Raja Rishi Vishvamitra's version of Hinduism?
Totally untrue.
saddened by mass conversions by Christians
They cannot convert everyone, world cannot be converted into one single thing, that is a fact.
sadness alone does not help, other emotions need to be utilized by us. Excessive colonization of our minds by invaders has atrophied them. Do or die is here, staring in our face.
Ostriches hide their heads in sand and think likewise.
By christain,very much by Muslims ,Sikhnet.org explain perfectly
What saddens you? Is it Hindus converting to Christians or vice versa?
Hinduism is not a religion. The question of conversion does not arise. You can be in a mandir and still question the existence of GOD because India has always been a land of seekers. Seeking the truth independent of whatever your belief systems are. That is the beauty of Hinduism and that is reason why people of indian origins will never have a problem living side by side with other religions.
deepak The Lamp Well said
You sure this is not a plagiarism of Sadhguru?
Seeking part is correct. But how do you know what you are seeking is in right direction? My understanding is that we need a flawless map for the truth and then seeker tread that path. Vedas are such flawless map. If you ask why only they are flawless while others scriptures are not, then welcome to apourusheya vaada !
Hindu name given by invaders and foreigners,,,,some how spirituality called Hinduism,,,same with Buddhism
@@ratipati2007 are you a Mimamsaka?
One pm of India mr jabarlal Nehru decided to take out Hinduism out of study and interference of government. He destroyed Hinduism.
He was mole planted by western wannabee superpowers
All the paths included in the Hindu Dharma viz Seva (Service), Bhakti(devotion), Karma (Yogic way of doing things), Yoga (by itself a practice), Yajna (Fire Rituals), Pooja (Prayer with Mantras), Dhyana (Meditation), Kriya (Internal Cleansing Processes),etc is all towards guiding the seeker to reach ultimate goal of liberation from the cycle of birth and death!
Starting point for liberation is Seeking - to understand "Who Am "I"" When I say, Mine or Who Am "I" when I respond to a call against my name! The response, "I don't know" is the foundation! Then on it is matter of seeking!
Hinduism (Sanatan Dharma) is the universal religion. There is no need for converting any one in to Hinduism because goal of human life is to attain liberation which can be achieve by good Karma no matter what his belief or his practice system is.
Good Karma is not enough it is the way of purifying your existence but you have to be practice and realise then you can attend the real liberation before die
Nonsense and simply a fundamentalist/universalist dogma.
CONVERSION IS AN ABHRAHAMIC CONCEPT....
THERE IS NO SUCH WORD CONVERSION IN HINDUISM BOOKS🙄
Refer about Adi Shankaracharya.🌺🙏🏼❤️🤗 Hinduism was there even before Buddhism.
You have diksha initiation into a bona fida sampradaya from an Acharya Sannyasi. But this is not conversion. In Catholicism they have Baptism, dipping baby into the holy water. In Sri Vaishnavism the Diksha initiation process involves taking shelter of a guru, surrendering to Lord Sriman Narayana, and receiving the branding of Vishnu's Conch & Chakra on the shoulders. In Orthodox Christianity conversion involves Catechesis, "Catechesis is basic Christian religious education of children and adults, often from a catechism book. It started as education of converts to Christianity, but as the religion became institutionalized, catechesis was used for education of members who had been baptized as infants", a "Catechumen, a person who receives instruction in the Christian religion in order to be baptized". Hinduism is Sanatana Dharma, calling it a religion can be quite misleading, and calling it conversion is also misleading.
@@MrMikkyn fundamental principle of Sanatan Dharma is Karm yog. Do or perform our duties....Play our role in this world of Maya. But later our priest class has stopped teaching our religion to us as a part of possessiveness. Blood human brain function has always a link with motion of moon 🌙 or lunar lunatic effects of Vedic studies🧐🤔....pay attention to study it also.
Buddha and Christ are important influential elements of sanadana dharma.
but we must ask why? why dont hindus convert others?
it has to do with our view of god, not all religions view god the same way
hindus view god as a parent/teacher. no parent will divide her children
christianity/islam view god as a master. they have chosen to lower themselves down to slaves. master demands loyalty(belief) - that is why belief is stressed. you must declare your loyalty to the master
we hindus are children of god, we remain at a higher level, we sit by the side of god, whereas they have chosen to kneel on the ground before us
that is their choice
Our god never divide his children but Manu does divided. Children of God ❤️
@@pradeepmdwp1842 Dude that was law which changes with time. Law never stays the same. It had to be amended at some point. But you took that like Muslim takes Sharia and thought this is it.
@@pradeepmdwp1842 Manu Smriti is a book of law. It's not a religious book.
Seriously bro! Criticism of Hinduism is actually done by "Time"! Thousands of years of Invasions and Conversions (Only one way) still couldn't erase Hinduism from face of Earth. Talk about Hinduism when your Civilization(Religion) matures another few thousands of years.
@Rupam Ray Bro the Abrahamic religions will fight each other and destroy Earth 🌎 before Santana Dharma is realized.
he's not criticizing anything.
It is important to recognise that he is not really a scholar, wendy doniger is his friend . And he even defended her once. The fact (37:00 onwards) is that is you cannot define hinduism. And the triabls are hindus. They are all incorporated, and not to thought of different. Yes, they were hindu. They do not have to have a label of hindu.
AA nk
The political lens through which Hindu influence in ancient times is explained and described is the fundamental flaw in viewing the conversion process. The spread of Sanskrit and Hinduism was voluntary.
Christianity has spread through digestion of religions and traditions and calling it their own. The spread of Christianity has been predominantly for political and control reasons, whereas the spread of Sanskrit in Ancient times was independent of such human rights issues.
It is not a coincidence how western indologists can't seem to find any other way to explain the spread of a civilisation and its traditions other than by digging out political, oppressive and conflicting verses within texts, which may not necessarily mean that, and seem to loose their true meaning due to translation and technical jargon, since many original Sanskrit words are non-traslatables.
Vivekananda too is subjected to this, with indologists claiming many of his ideas came from Christian influences ??!! This is the political digestion of his ideas.
Shaunaka Das, quotes English, Canadian and Swiss Sanskrit scholars who are outside the Hindu tradition and do not have the adhikaar to make historical claims that suit vested interests.
Indian history continues to be shrouded by false facts and claims which have their roots in colonisation.
Well, for sure, Vivekananda's ideas on "idol worship" and admiration of Buddhism didn't come from Hinduism.
kindly enlighten us on where you think the ideas came from ?
soiledspot Well, Vivekananda claimed that "idol worship" (which, by the way, is a Christian term, not a Hindu one), is for spiritually undeveloped minds to realize the truth. This was his "defense" against criticism of "idol worship." Where did that criticism come from? Not from Hindus.....
The worship of the archa-murthy is referred to in the Puranas as kriya-yoga, and it is NOT, contrary to Vivekananda's claims, a practice for primitive minds.
It is important to recognise that he (the speaker in the video is not really a scholar, wendy doniger is his friend . And he even defended her once. The fact (37:00 onwards) is that is you cannot define hinduism. And the triabls ARE hindus. They are all incorporated, and not to thought of different. Yes, they were hindu. They do not have to have a label of hindu.
AA You can certainly define Hinduism. Just look at its historical usage. The word "Hindu" was used by the Persians to describe the people living in the Indus Valley during their visits to India. These people followed a culture that was based on the authority of the Vedas. Therefore, Hindus are followers of Hinduism, and Hinduism refers to religious traditions that at least theoretically revere the authority of the Veda, and/or follow scriptures (like the Puranas) which accept the authority of the Vedas.
It's a needless complication to point out that not all of Hinduism is "Vedic." But the fact is, not all Christianity is Biblical and not all Islam is Koranic. These religious terms are still conventionally used to describe religious traditions that at least theoretically accept the scriptures of their ancestral traditions.
Defining Hinduism with reference to the Vedas gives us a meaningful definition of the term. By this definition, Buddhists and Jains are not Hindus, which is appropriate since their scholars don't self-identify as Hindus and don't accept the authority of the Vedas.
During Muslim invasion Indians were converted to Islam then Hindu Guru's then helped them convert back to their religion of parents. Ex of Hakka and buka of Vijayanagar empire.
I agree that Hinduism is about practice and those practices are what makes one a Hindu. While it may seem silly to someone born Hindu, a simple ceremony can serve as a rite of passage for someone wanting to make this transition. This can be significant if the individual was brought up in another religion or with no religious tradition at all. Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it and look forward to more like this.
i enjoyed his lectures before, but he is showing the U-turn theory propounded by Rajiv Malhotra. Is he seriously comparing crusades and jihad to Hindu conversions. There is a difference in accepting a system on their own----as in the case of Hinduism, rather than being forced under a sword, like the abrahamic religions.
SRD seems to be mixing religion and politics here.
I'll have to listen again, I don't recall hearing it that way. Certainly those are completely different. I am not Indian and I was not raised with a specific religious tradition (actually mostly Theosophy) and I am drawn to Sanatana Dharma. It is interesting that some fully accept this about me and others do not.
Mick Goodman Mick Ramji, our tradition, and I consider myself sanataria, is quite accepting, but accepting it on all levels if more cultural than religious. It is not like christianity or islam where the basic cultures have been destroyed to the extent that whatever is left is all religious. So it takes time in santana. But do listen. There is this theory that non-hindus come, accept, learn and then return, never to give credit to where they learnt it from. But let me formally say, sanatana is the foundation, I try to stand on it, and welcome you to join me!!
I understand. I see this happening in the yoga community here in the West ... not acknowledging the source, so much is lost. Thank you you for your kind words to me. Namaskar.
Mick Goodman Great, when you see it happening make sure you mention it. knowledge has been stolen from all pagans. but presently it is hinduism everyone is stealing from. do speak up. thanks and namaskar.
hindus do not have an issue with following two religions. that is why they do not demand conversion. But Christians and Muslims demand not only conversion but also leaving what you had before, any connect not the religion or even to the family. This man does not really want to talk about that. If he is a hindu and does not consider himself a convert, then he should know that simple truth and that plain difference between christians / muslims and hindus.
This man is sticking to topic!
Yes the ‘holier then thou ‘ aspect of Abrahmic religion just doesn’t gel
With hindu culture which is pluralistic in its spiritual approach .
We Hindus have no rigid principles. We can worship Jesus and Allah just like we worship other Gods and Goddesses. The problem comes only when they (The missionaries) try to impose their "strict monotheistic religious rules" on our beautiful and liberal way of living.
Such non sense. One can't have two religions.
How is caste a part of being born into Hinduism when the CASTE is something the BRITISH ENFORCED IN INDIA in the MIDDLE 1800s.
Poonam Abbi Caste is not religion-based by profession based.
@@sudhak5057 it's not profession based it's based in Guun ( satva, rajas, tamas)
Ramesh Chaurasia May be initially. If you check your horoscope, you are categorised as belonging to one of the four varnas. Eg: mine shows me as Brahmin; my kids' shows them as Kshatriyas.
These divisions are based on your date and time of birth. It interested me so much - i began casting horoscopes to check out how true it is. I realised that it is true to a large extent. My children, for example, are really "fighters", as compared to me who is a pacifist.
I wonder if this was how the castes really came into existence.
@Anto Erickson Actually aryan invansion theory itself fake history created by british
@Anto Erickson There is no scientific , archeological or even genetic evidence for aryan invasion . Modern studies have discovered things to prove that civilisation in India was far more older then what these western history told you actually . The Saraswati( river ) civilisation mentioned in Rigveda existed long before the Indus( Sindhu ) Valley . There is evidence now for this depleted river . Also genetic science totally rejects the Aryan invasion . Every indian has the same gene . Probably the varied climatic conditions in India had it’s effect on how people look in a hot south India and a cool HImalayan region. But the genetically we are same .
There si also a new theory that says that the modern civilised people actually migrated from India towards east Asia and Europe rather then the opposite -aryan invasion theory proposed without kuch supportive evidence .
A good talk that gives one view of what Hinduism could be looked at
One comment : Hindus do not differentiate between the adherences of different people to their practises or their ways of worship or their understanding of spirituality.
My understanding is that the Hinduism is not an organised religion like christanity, Islam, Judaism etc. It is better to call it a Vedic Wisdom Tradition or Vedic Text, Literature, Vedic Culture etc. The ancient Rishis,who were highly enlightened, experienced the Truth, the Reality through deep deep meditation and expressed their realisation which can be found in Upnishad, Vedanta( means end of knowledge) etc. The purpose of expressing their realisation was to make the whole of the human race aware of real reality beyond the mask of physical reality which is why we find quote in this culture like "Vasudevao Kutumvacom" ( the whole world is one family). It hardly matters whether one believes in God or not according to this wisdom tradition. Hence, we find no moral maps imposed in this culture. Society does not care or mind if people do not follow rituals. You may take the path of atheism, no matter. So coversion to Hinduism and leaving Hinduism is rediculous according to my understanding. We need to introduce as Hindu in modern fragmented socity, otherwise in deeper reality each of us is extended body of God.
Real Hindu is the one described by Adi Sankara in his Nirvana Chatakam.
Excellent sir.
The commentary at the very end is so Sanatani. The world is one family and this includes the flora, fauna, rivers, lakes, seas and the mountains. It is an ecosystem that sustains life and we have to bring balance in the ecosystem by following our dharma.
The point is well taken that Hindu religion emphasises practice rather than the belief system but the technical problem of a person evolving into Hindu faith through practice is the caste . Which caste would that person assume? If the person or his ancestors had belonged to a particular caste of Hindu community then as ascribed status it can automatically be transferred, theoretically speaking. Moreover other religions like Islam and christianity also have practises besides the belief system so we can’t say that only Hinduism can be defined on the basis of practises.
Read these brilliant eye opening books by Rajiv Malhotra -
"Being Different" and "Breaking India"
WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BEING A HINDU?
By Francois Gautier
1) Believe in God ! - Aastik - Accepted
2) Don't believe in God ! - You're accepted as Nastik
3) You want to worship idols - please go ahead. You are a murti pujak.
4) You dont want to worship idols - no problem. You can focus on Nirguna Brahman.
5) You want to criticise something in our religion. Come forward. We are logical. Nyaya, Tarka etc. are core Hindu schools.
6) You want to accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it.
7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvad Gita - Sure !
8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead.
9) You want to start your journey by reading Purana - Be my guest.
10) You just don't like reading Puranas or other books. No problem my dear. Go by Bhakti tradition . ( bhakti- devotion)
11) You don't like idea of Bhakti ! No problem. Do your Karma. Be a karmayogi.
12) You want to enjoy life. Very good. No problem at all. This is Charvaka Philosophy.
13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life & find God - jai ho ! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic !
14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti or nature is worthy of worship).
15) You believe in one God or Supreme Energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy
16) You want a Guru. Go ahead. Receive gyaan.
17) You don't want a Guru.. Help yourself ! Meditate, Study !
18) You believe in Female energy ! Shakti is worshipped.
19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism!
"Vasudhaiva kutumbakam" (the world is a family)
20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival.
Don't worry. One more festival is coming! There are multiple festivals every single day of the year.
21) You are a working person. Don't have time for religion. Its okay. You will still be a Hindu.
22) You like to go to temples. Devotion is loved.
23) You don't like to go to temples - no problem. You are still a Hindu!
24) You know that Hinduism ☺ is a way of life, with considerable freedom.
25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, guru, tree, River, Prani-matra, Earth, Universe!
26) And If you don't believe that everything has GOD in it - No problems. Respect your viewpoint.
27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu " (May you all live happily)
You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu!
This is exactly the essence of Hinduism, all inclusive .. That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated onslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspects from everything . That is why it is eternal !!!
There is a saying in Rigveda , the first book ever known to mankind which depicts the Hinduism philosophy in a Nutshell -" Ano bhadrah Krathavo Yanthu Vishwathah"- Let the knowledge come to us from every direction".
*32:39 The ruler became Buddhist(Ashoka) because he was fed up of violence! As in Buddhism, it's strictly non-violent unlike Hinduism! And just because he converted to Buddhism doesn't mean he converted everyone especially Hindus to Buddhism!
*It might also be like this because of as in cases of Christianity, Islam, etc. they have atleast one major country in world while Hinduism has only India!
*35:07 I mean if a person is comfortable at being a Hindu, it doesn't mean that he/she has to follow everything in what is written in texts! He/she can choose the way as please + don't need to change religion or be an atheist or so! Just like if a marriage isn't working for sometime and it's not that bad, u don't get divorced immediately, right!?
*I like ur logical POV Sir though!*
Read the actual history Ashoka was already a Buddhist before Kalinga war, it is imaginary false narrative that Ashoka turned Buddhist after the war.
Sir huge respect for you ... very good and deep analysis of Hinduism..every word of yours is truth.. regarding Tantra process , yes you are right pooja is a tantric process if followed in a right way or process .. in Satya Narayan pooja priest first make a tantra then starts the pooja..
Universal Sandhya.(love).
'a man out of hindu pale is not a man less, an enemy the more'....swami vivekananda
I love Hindu religion and accept it💝
I want to born in hinduism 1000 times ... I want to see kalyug avatar of vishnu and after that i want moksh
yes its a way of life.
Hindu means tolerant person
add it in English dictionary
Aham Bramhasmi !
applicable on total universe
Aham Bramhasmi = i am a nano part of this universe and so do the entire universe
nice detailed speech
something is written we does not believe without using intellect it also written in our book
Enlightening talk.
our identity is cosmic identity aham bhrahmashmi
I have been seeking and learning bit by bit these past 20 years and I am in my mid thirties and somehow feel my understanding of Hindu spirituality is much better than this guy. I learnt nothing ! My understanding about how to be a Hindu remains as it was before I watched this - i.e. one is neither born nor initiated as a Hindu...one becomes a Hindu at the point they realise they are one. I was born a Hindu...lived the first quarter of my life as an agnost and am now a Shiv Bhakt. Om Namah Shivaya !
All these guys have an underlying Christian bias and some inferiority complex.. think it this way, only Hinduism needs to be disparaged through lies, so you stick to truth and Hinduism is just too good.. while in case of other religions truth hurts them and you have to lie to protect them.. THIS IS HOW DIFFERENT HINDUISM IS ON LIE DETECTOR..
I also added this comment above for this professor.
Why these guys have to be so irrational so overtly, while being professors?
Every reason they use to disparage Hinduism goes against every other religion 10 times or an order of magnitude more. He says Vedic is not Hindu because it doesn't suit him or Christians? Right? and Buddhism is Budhdhism irrespective of Mahayana, Heenayana or now all kind of variations from Chinese to Cambodia to whatever.. Forget about Christianity or Islam there you can hardly say what they are given the text have all kind of ambiguities so in reality the text cannot be followed from one verse or one page to another with any guarantee.
TRY TO UNDERSTAND THIS- WHATEVER PARAMETER YOU WILL TAKE TO DENY HINDUISM, THE SAME WILL BE APPLICABLE MUCH MORE TO ANY OTHER RELIGION BUT LESS TO HINDUISM BECAUSE THE UPANISHADS, starting from 1000 BC or 3000 years ago, define the core of HINDUISM or Sanatan Dharma comes from the oldest Upanishads..
@@Subudhdh I didn't find him disparaging Hinduism at any point in this session. Rather its other way round, I think.
He is just pointing to the fact that there is no word as 'Hindu' in Vedic texts. The word is dharma or sanatana Dharma.
Also he is emphasising that don't play in the hands of Christian model. Hinduism has a different model. Go to your original roots.
What is the platform where Hinduism can be studied academically? What's the platform where these questions can be explored and discussed in a non judgmental way?
I think rather than becoming insecure and uncomfortable when these questions are raised, its an opportunity to dive deeper and engage with them. I am thinking about how and where we can talk objectively about these questions and the points discussed... without bringing any other victim card or pain points or insulting any tradition or person.
@@PremanjanaDas That guy, you and us all of us first need to understand that religions or ideologies, even philosophies are not mathematics. Secondly, Hinduism has many orders of magnitude more precision and structure than Abhramic religions, thirdly, given that most religions speak different languages, there is never one to one comparison. Again abhramic religions have neither structure nor accuracy. But always remember Hinduism is orders of magnitude wiser/refined than not just other religions but also any other philosophy, while most German philosophers read Hindu ideas/Upanishads, but in their inferiority complex they mostly did so to somehow find ways to disparage it. However, some like Schopenhauer became too fond of Upanishads etc. The whole idea of spirituality peddled worldwide, through any religion, etc, whatever is from Hinduism and primarily from Upanishads. You let me know what your questions are and I will try to answer.
@@PremanjanaDas again, tell me what answers you are trying to find and we start from there.
why always a Foreigner is giving lectures....where are Indian
Well, the speaker is a practising Hindu...So can only Indian Hindus give Hindu lectures?
Indians only knows how to talk but they never document it.
We not even think of courses on hindu practices and vedic text in universities and these people have published papers on this.
you are Samrat Kiranjeet, it is sad the born in India are not taking responsability in
Sanatana Dharma. This also confirms that the body or the location where we take birth is relative in this Kali yug and also are the casts. Any honest of heart can qualify himself to serve Guru & Sanatan Dharma.
Where do you stand ?
Remember, Best way to keep content is to recite it. In India, the process of Guru and Sishya ( Teacher and Student).
When Britishers, Mughals destroyed/Burned Vedas Scripts. This was re-created it easily ( with some loss of verses) across india from Guru and Sishya.
One has to believe in something to practice!
I could answer that... By birth or practice. But I think I will rather like to listen to others perspectives .. and thats what I am actually here for.. No? 😊
Hinduism stands for peace, people converting to foreign faiths spread hate, violence, alienation and partition, Pak/Bangladesh are the example.
Way of living instead of way of life. All culture demonstrates a way of life. Therefore, way of life is redundant.
The fact that I am a Hindu is not my religious identity. It's actually a geographical identity. It all originated from the geographical place known is ' Sapta Sindhu'. Our religion is actually called ' Sanatan Dharma'. Sanatan or Sanatana actually means traditional. The tradition also includes ' atheism'.
Such confusion. (H)indu is the religion.
Amazing video ❤
Hinduism is world introduce in India in 1818 for people who don't follow any Orthodox religion , they follow their culture and traditions.
there is difference between conversion and shuddhi. shuddhi means purification, it means you have chosen to be purified you have been given a chance now, a start , the end is in your hands if you can continue to walk on this path of purity or not
What he is try to explain he don't know himself just to try under stand data
Shuddhi through filthy cow piss you filthy Saffron orange 🟠 😅
Sanatan Dharma.A way of life.
It is Sanatan Dharma and the argument that the majority of Hindus converting to Buddhist and Jain is false and we claim Jain and Buddhists belong to Sanatan Dharma
Yeah , it is that India was never a religious persecuting society and was open to various school of thoughts . The basic idea of all these dharmic tradition were still the same like moksha , punarjanm , karm , Dharma ..
and Hindu was an umbrella word used by outsiders to depict various traditions and spiritual paths in India which was different then Abrahmic way .
The conversion in present time is necessary for different reason. With increase in population of other religions there is danger of loosing land and Hindus may end up like Jews. The world needs more liberal religions.
Yes , this nobody is addressing. Any place where Abrahmic faith takes over in India it turns dangerously less indian and non - secular . For example one state in Kashmir, what happens to hindu minority never happen to minority in Hindu majority states . Same in some north east which has turned Christian attacks Hindus again. Also leading to separatism . And great idea of the west is to break India by conversion . They always wanted a broken India fearing the resurrection of the glorious India of the past . Even the partition during the independence was a well thought out plan .
Anyone can convert or adopt to the Hindu/Yoga Dharma. Of course this means great study and comittment. Anyone who says you can't convert does not know Hindu Dharma ; i.e. Tat Tvam Asi. In other words, who can tell the Atmana where and in who it can incarnate!
If you don't cover Adi Shankara's Advaita Vedanta philosophy then you are skipping the bona fide or genuine approach of study of hindu coversionism.🙄🧐🤔
Very deep analysis of hindu religion...🙂🙂🙂
4:27 from converge? :)
hinduism means worship god as u like there is no barriers we hindus oppose my god is the only god in the universe policy this thinking made India a largest democracy in the world
(H)indu definately in the Vedas, the speaker us so wrong on this issue. Everybody was a (H)indu Vedic times!
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There is no concept of conversion in the Sanatan Dharmic view, which includes but is not limited to Sikh, Buddhist and Jain traditions and beliefs, as is understood in the Abrahamic faiths. Very often when one says "Hindu", he is automatically excluding the other faiths based on Dharma, Karma, Moksha, Yoga that were born in and exist only in Bharat. One may "follow" these faiths by practicing yoga/meditation, rituals, dress etc but that does not count as "conversion" as there is really nothing to "convert" to. In the Sanatan Dharmic view, EVERYONE is a "Hindu" by virtue of being human.
I did not thinkthat ADAPTING isthe same as CONVERTING.
Hinduism based on your Karma. Ones good Karma will decide their fate. Bad karma will get its fruits may be also after death or in the next birth.
Foreign people coined term "Hindu" to classify people who do not subscribe to christian and muslims. Sanatana dharma, the internal religion is the iternal, forever.
All abhemic religions forces people to live in captive. People need to understand. They need to realize the higher path and that is not to specific cult which forces people to do something.
Sir I request you to become guru and give the same deeksha you got, to other interested peoples
jai sri ram
Mooh main le le mota aam
Seeking is the only thing that binds all Hindus but not believing some thing.
@Shaunaka Rishi Das - Any person who starts believing in reincarnation, law of karma, and eternity of time with cycles of creation & destruction, & one ultimate supreme being is a Hindu. There is no need for a formal conversion then. These are the key differences between Abrahamic religion vs Hinduism
Sanatan Dharm is beyond a religion!
Sanatan is Dharm or Dharma as a westerners would understand!
Sanatan Dharm dharan ke yogya hai!
Meaning Sanatan dharm is worthy of imbibing in one's life.
There is no conversion in Hinduism .Every one is born Hindu because in Hinduism one is not compelled to follow particular narrowed down codes of belief and worship as in Islam and Christian.Complex Human life can't be confined down into following a certain ways of conduct and believe systems. However in Hinduism also post Vedic Hinduism/brahmanical Hinduism became highly discriminatory where people belonging to brahman classes started claiming exclusive rights over whatever knowledge and wisdom pertaining to this religion claiming themselves purer class and, slowly and steadily driving out others people, barring them from entering worship places.Such behaviours of brahmins later on completely broke down unity among Hindus and become the main reason for mass conversation of non-brahmins to Islam time and again.
Jews who came to India a long time ago and are called parsees are the most respected people in India
Ravi Karthaka Jews are NOT Parsis. PARSIS ARE ZOROASTRIANS FROM PERSIA. ZOROASTRIANISM IS NOT AN ABRAHAMIC RELIGION.
Gotra defines who u are in hinduism.
In hinduism even animal and insectcs became hindu after rebirth.
I also disagree with his story of Narad muni, Narad muni did not convert to a new religion, in the same faith he evolved to a higher being. Like for example Vishwamitra being a Kshatriya (Intellectual capabilities abilities, varna not caste) became a brahmin in the same birth, do you refer to this as conversion? This cannot be referred to as conversion.
Being born a hindu is natural to all people. Paganism is an inborn religion. Therefore everyone is a born hindu
Jesus Christ revealed from the Hindu Vedas
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Jesus Christ, not founder of a religion
Many people in India say that Jesus Christ was a great saint who founded the Christian Religion. The Bible tells us that all mankind have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Rom.3:23) and that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was sent by God to this world, to become the propitiation for our sins. Who is this Jesus? Apart from the Bible, let us know about Him from the ancient Hindu Scriptures. An Indian saint who had a thorough knowledge of the ancient Hindu Scriptures presented Jesus from the Hindu Scriptures. He is the late Adhyaksha Kesava Raya Sarma Mandapaka..
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Animal sacrifices at the altar of Temple
All mankind have sinned, having transgressed the law of God. Therefore, they devise various ways and means as to how to escape the wrath of God, and live. In our own country, the Brahmins perform sacrifices, and the non-Brahmins offer animals in sacrifice. Now there is no need for killing the animals at the altar of temples now. But still devotees are performing such sacrifices ignoring the truth.
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Sacrifice as the holy means of salvation
An examination of the Vedas reveals that sacrifice is spoken of as the only means of salvation. “Prathamani Dharmani”; “Sacrifices are the foremost of our first duties.” “Yagnovai Bhuvanasya Nabhih”- “Sacrifice is the mainstay of the world”. “Yagne Sarvam Pratishthitam” - “It is sacrifice that bestows all things”. “Yagnovai Sutarmanowh”- “Sacrifice is the bark (boat) that enables one to live well”. “Yagnena Va Deva Divangatah” - “Only by means of sacrifice, the gods attained heaven” “Rutasyanah Pathanaya Ati Viswani Durita”- “Deliverance through sacrifice”
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What does Bhagvad Gita teach?
Let us also see what the Bhagavad Gita says: Slo. “Sahayagnah Prajasrushtva Purovacha Prajapatih Anena Prasavishyadhwam Eshavvostvishta Kamadukh” - “In the beginning alone, along with the creation of man, God instituted the sacrifice, and told them, “May this grant the desires of your heart” "Yagnakshapitakalmashah” - “Those whose sins have been effaced by means of sacrifice” “Nayam lokostyayagnasvah kutanayah kurusattama” - “Oh, noble Guru, there is no place in this world for him who does not perform even a single one of these sacrifices..
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What does Mundakopanishad teach?
Further, in the Mundakopanishad, we see, “Plava hyere adrudhayagnarapah” - “The timbers of the bark of sacrifice are unsound”. In Skanda Puranam Yagna Vaibhava Khandam, 7th chapter, we read: Slo. “Plava eyete sura yagna adrudhasheha na samshayah” - “Ye gods, sacrifices are like the timbers of a bark; there is no doubt that they are unsound” Tandya Maha Brahmanam says, Sru: “Yagnota avati tasyachhaya kriyate” - “It is a sacrifice that saves. What is being performed, is the shadow of sacrifice”.
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What does Rig Veda, etc. teach us?
In Rig Veda, we read, Sru: “Atmada baladah yasya chhaya-mrutam yasya mruatyuh” - “He whose shadow and death become nectar shall, by his shadow and death, confer the spirit and strength”. The above sayings clearly reveal that the sacrifices performed do not themselves confer salvation but they are the type and the shadow of a great salvation-giving sacrifice. Aitareya Brahmanam says, Sru: “Yaja-manah pashuh yajamanameva suvargam lokam gamayati” - “He who offers the sacrificial animal; therefore, he who performs sacrifices goes to heaven”
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What does Satapadha Brahmanam teach?
Satapadha Brahmanam says, “Tasya prajapatirardhameva martyamasidardhamrutam” - God became half mortal and half immortal”. This means that He united in Himself the human and the divine. In the Purusha Sukta, we read that the God Brahma is sacrificed. What is evident from the above teachings is that the true and great redeeming sacrifice would be the one performed by the Sovereign Lord of this world, who putting on both mortality and immortality and becoming incarnate as God-man, would Himself be the sacrificial animal:
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Rig Veda says about the sacrificial animal
This is what the Rig Veda says about the sacrificial animal. It must be a goat without blemish..The “balusu” bush must be placed round its head.It must be bound to a sacrificial post. Nails must be driven into its four legs till they bleed. The cloth covering the goat should be divided among the four priests. None of its bones must be broken. The goat should be given a drink of Soma juice. After it has been slain, it must be restored to life again. Its flesh should be eaten. Now these details speak about the Lamb of God spoken in the Bible.
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“Prajapatir yagnah” - “God Himself is the sacrifice”
In the Satpatha Brahmanam, we read, “Prajapatir yagnah” - “God Himself is the sacrifice”. In Tandya Maha Brahmanam of Sama Veda, we read, Sru: “Prajapatir devebhyam atmanam yagnam krutva prayachhat” - “God would offer Himself as a sacrifice and obtain atonement for sins”
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What does the Satpatha Brahmanam teach?
In the Satpatha Brahmanam, we read, “Prajapatir yagnah” - “God Himself is the sacrifice”. In Tandya Maha Brahmanam of Sama Veda, we read, Sru: “Prajapatir devebhyam atmanam yagnam krutva prayachhat” - “God would offer Himself as a sacrifice and obtain atonement for sins”
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What does the Bible teach?
Thus, it is said that God Himself must become man, and then become a sacrifice to save sinners. But we do not read any such thing written about the incarnations of our country nor in the Sastras. There is no God-incarnate man, who died a sacrificial death to save sinners. But there is a country called Palestine in the west of Asia, on the Mediterranean coast, in the center of the great land mass of the world. In this country was born of a holy virgin’s womb, the incarnate God, in Whom were fulfilled all the details of the description given about the God-man.
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What does the Bible teach further?
Jesus was absolutely without blemish. He lived a perfectly holy life. He was both mortal and immortal. That is to say, He was both human and divine. He foretold His sacrificial death to save the mankind and then of His living again as death’s conqueror. He voluntarily surrendered Himself into the hands of wicked men, who loved sin, hated His teachings and wanted to kill Him.
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What does the Vedas and Bible teach?
If we examine the way in which Jesus was killed, we find that like the sacrifice of God Brahma as described in Purusha Sukta, everything said about the sacrificial animal in the Rig Veda, was clearly fulfilled in this incarnation. Bible says that there is no other name given under the heaven except the Name "Jesus" meaning One who saves people from sin, for our salvation.
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What does the Bible teach about salvation?
Salvation means forgiveness of sins by sinners by accepting the sacrifice of Jesus as propitiation of our sins through repentance. A sinner is born again of the Spirit of God and becomes a new creature in Christ Jesus and his old life passes away. The Holy Spirit begins to indwell the person after this spiritual rebirth. A sinner thus becomes a saint, the temple of the Spirit of God.
In Hinduism, God is the universal, infinite super-intelligent, SUPER-CONSCIOUSNESS which is everywhere within his creation and A SPARK of his super-consciousness is also within us in the core of our soul body. All of us will evolve as intelligent consciousness(souls) over many births and deaths until we realise THE IMPERMANENCE OF OUR MATERIAL BODIES and will seek to merge with the super-consciousness eventually. Therefore the need for conversion or even the concept of conversion does not arise
Such confusion. No " God" in Hindu Dharma.
38:00, yeah sorry mate! you lost it...you have no idea on the ground reality.
Hinduism is great
The word Hindu is not mentioned in any of the texts of Sanatana Dharma. Its anachronism to call Dharma areligion
There can be Hindu Christians, Hindu Muslims etc. These days problem is these two religions identify themselves with Rome or Arabs. Our culture has been you worship your God with Indian way of worshipping and living with a thoughts/ideas of values that is Indian.
Speaker fails to see the rational. One cannot practice certain way unless he accept the truth is certain way. So, knowledge precedes behavior and it is foundation of practice. Such knowledge could be either based on blind belief (like in Abrahamic faiths) or based on reasoned system of philosophy (as in Vedanta)
Presently Islam being promoted in india is more close to middle eastern Islam
Since now they have the oil money.
Ik hoop dat je eenbeetje snappt van wat je zegt en wat is Dharma
This video was created by missionaries with sole aim to find ways to convert hindus
Sometimes even other pilgrims object to the entry of the non hindus into the sanctum of the temple.
I don't know how to say, it's too much! People are here in India are suffering from Muslim and Christian invasions for more than 800 years. As because Hindu philosophy accepts all, but don't accept atrocities committed by other communities! That's why Krishna said Arjuna to act.
In later stage we don't allow others to enter into the Mandir, because when ever we do that you destroyed that and looted money from it. So, we became preservative with active consciousness!
You are more Hindu than nowadays so called spiritual gurus
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3 things that can be different: India, Indian and Hindu.
Quest to know who am I slowly transforms us from rascal to respectable..
sri. Shaunuka Rishi Das --I have heard quite a lot about you --Can you please show me at least ONE REFERENCE --JUST ONLY ONE REFERENCE -form any of the "SO CALLED" HINDU Scripture--"
Sri.DAS -Can You please show me just ONE REFERENCE --ONLY ONE REFERENCE from any of the "SO CALLED" HINDU SCRIPTURE (ORIGINAL SANSKRIT SCRIPTURE) where the WORD "HINDU" is used.
There is NO such thing as NEO VEDHANTHA --ADVAITHA ASHRAMA (ESTABLISHED BY SWAMI VIVEKANANDHA) SANYASIS TALK THE SAME ADVAITHA --What Sri.SANKARACHARYA TALKED --
ADVAITHA ASRAMA (ESTABLISHED BY SWAMI VIVEKANANDHA) SANYASIS TALK THE SAME ADVAITHA -WHAT SANKARACHARYA TALKED
PLEASE LISTEN SWAMI SARVA PRIYANANDA'S TALK on MAANDOOKYA UPANISHAD to I.I.T.KANPUR STUDENTS --HIS TALK MAKES MORE SENSE THAN YOUR TALK.
It is Sanatan Dharma. It is acceptance of the religion. Dont use the name " conversion". Hindus never ever converted anyone.
Do not agree with the priests keeping people out of a temple. There are a few where there is a tradition of gender rules and a set of pre-requisites of preparation prior to entry. That is ok but not on the basis of caste, colour, creed.
The proper word is 'evolve' and not 'convert'
No one needs to be converted if any one says conversion to Hinduism then don't do such things you have to just read vedas and so know dharma all other will be done by yourselves no any kind of special practices are required
this guy is creating a platform for christian missonaries for sure
You can't convert into Hinduism just like you can't convert into a white person, or a Chinese, or an indigenous African or Native American. See the comparison? Hinduism is an ethnic identity and a way of life in the Indian subcontinent.
You confuse race and religion.
@@dharmayogaashram979 Our race follows our way of life. Religion is an Abrahamic concept. Ours is Dharma
Hopefully one day in the future you see how absurd it is to think you are both Christian and Hindu.
Everyone and anyone can convert into Hinduism. But we Hindus dont force our religion on others by violence like Abrahamic religions.
Christianity & Islam converts, Hinduism accepts.
sanatan dharma and hindu are not same thing , and not different, also
Who gave you the idea that Yoga invented by western, are you talking about Fightnes
Mad people they even don't know 1% of Hinduism ......adn one thing is we aren't hindu .....we ar sanatani ..... Which means never end which continues thousands of years 😂😂😂😂😂😂 amd no one will gonna destroy us and one day the entire world become sanatani not by religion but by practicing 😜😜😂😂
He didnt say it was invented. He said propagated and asked if it means one is Hindu.
Vaikuntha is not a universal Hindu goal!