Comparing that run by medicine to hefests A12 just proves they dont know alot about A12s setup and how insane his uberbug is. Flying somewhere with reactor to hit a small gap is surely impressive but pales in comparison. With reactor you can literally control your flight and the setup is alot easier than on A12 where the setup is harder and the uber is.. well.. an uber. Also the irony of calling you an average wirtual viewer. smh
Thanks for this video! Some people don't get how insane is the set up for the Uber on A12, I was one of them. Then I tried, and now I've been hunting this map for 1.5 year (556h in total) and I'm not even close to Hefest's time Imo it's literally easier to win the fucking lottery than getting the wr on A12, but even if I know that, I just can't stop playing, A12 is a fucking legendary map, with such a legendary history
Just getting an uber can take so much hours, but one that just fly into the finish takes a lot more. And even after that you need to get an uber that's low and fast, an uber as close as possible from the cp, A12 Wr by Hefest is WAY WAY more lucky to get than this yeet record.
FOLLOW-UP: th-cam.com/video/pPNYc8c_wQU/w-d-xo.html I got rank 72 within an hour, meanwhile rank 72 on A12 is 16.43 by Keby. No point in comparing Medicine's achievement to Hefest's. Link: dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Mode=DESC&RecOrder2=RANK-ASC&RecOrder3=NONE&Uid=zwAbNlFSDcXjRBk0YSMyxc5kJJ8&Show=RECORDS APOLOGIES FOR THE SNEEZING AT 5 MINUTES xddd
well gj getting 72 but Millions of people have played A12 While Only like maybe 1K players(prob less)have played A random YEET Winter 2022-01 ur legit comparing a random Map Rank to an Official Camp Map Rank
I'm not saying Medicine's run was harder than Hefest, as I agree with you. However, I think saying "I got 71st" on this map is not a valid argument for a comparison. Altered Nadeo maps are severely less hunted (at least in my experience) compared to campaign maps. I'm not a great Trackmania player but I've been able to get a WR on a map (now 3rd world) on an altered Nadeo map. Compare that to maps in campaign for TM2020 and I'm ranked way lower on any comparable map. Again, I'm in agreement with you, I just don't see how placing well on a map that's most likely not as hunted as A12 is an accurate comparison.
It may not be the best way of showing my point, but the only thing I see whoch would be better is asking Medicine how much he has spent on this WR and then spending that time on A12, and I ain't losing braincells on A12 xd
Also, here the normal way takes 20s. So its like "its way easier, proof : i got in 1 hour a run with this strat that is 4s slower than normal way" Edit: 92 players finished the map. So "placing weel", not really...
@@quentind1924 It's true, my time here isn't good. You said it yourself - 92 players overall. A12 is the most hunted map in all of Trackmania, easily having +200k players that played it. Do you see what I mean whan I say these two are incomparable?
I guess I never meant it to be an accurate "comparison", just a showcase of placing 72nd rather quickly and comparing it to Keby's time which 1.) wasn't done in an hour 2.) was driven by a much better player
i think the real difference in difficulty is the fact that ubers are very well-known and to a certain extent understood, whereas there are very few players who have learnt reactor. And the uber still is almost perfect for a uber, which we know is insane, whereas a reactor down cut like this could be easier than we think.
It doesn't annoy me that they have no clue, and think that this comes anywhere close to the A12 uber, but what annoys me that they aren't insightful even tho you have so much more hours than them. Also if you are a player that has actively played TMF and is interested in it, then they should certainly know you, and know that you are a also a FWO member. They will never reach what you achieved but they still stand strong on their dumb opinion.
I feel like this isn't exactly a great comparison since the maps are so differently hunted since the play count on an altered map is so much lower than a popular older map I'm not saying they are of equal luck or anything I just think this isn't a good way to demonstrate it
This seems a bit like you're gatekeeping trackmania. Not to say that you aren't 100% right about the amount of luck or dedication, but why attack this guy for being wrong about it? I think if you had explained your arguments initially instead of jumping in with an Ad Hominem argument, he probably would have been more open to seeing your perspective on it. The guy was probably just under the effects of Recency Bias, and maybe he didn't understand how hard an uberbug is, but I don't think it's worth berating him for that.
Comparing that run by medicine to hefests A12 just proves they dont know alot about A12s setup and how insane his uberbug is. Flying somewhere with reactor to hit a small gap is surely impressive but pales in comparison. With reactor you can literally control your flight and the setup is alot easier than on A12 where the setup is harder and the uber is.. well.. an uber. Also the irony of calling you an average wirtual viewer. smh
Thank you. Hopefully they see this vid
Thanks for this video! Some people don't get how insane is the set up for the Uber on A12, I was one of them.
Then I tried, and now I've been hunting this map for 1.5 year (556h in total) and I'm not even close to Hefest's time
Imo it's literally easier to win the fucking lottery than getting the wr on A12, but even if I know that, I just can't stop playing, A12 is a fucking legendary map, with such a legendary history
Just getting an uber can take so much hours, but one that just fly into the finish takes a lot more.
And even after that you need to get an uber that's low and fast, an uber as close as possible from the cp, A12 Wr by Hefest is WAY WAY more lucky to get than this yeet record.
yeah i can say that on a practice map it took me at least 10+ hrs
This is the type of content the tm community needs, fun lil challenges etc keep it up!
Great video, pretty cool that you dedicated so much time just to prove a point. Point definitely proven.
True
FOLLOW-UP: th-cam.com/video/pPNYc8c_wQU/w-d-xo.html
I got rank 72 within an hour, meanwhile rank 72 on A12 is 16.43 by Keby. No point in comparing Medicine's achievement to Hefest's.
Link: dedimania.net/tmstats/?do=stat&Mode=DESC&RecOrder2=RANK-ASC&RecOrder3=NONE&Uid=zwAbNlFSDcXjRBk0YSMyxc5kJJ8&Show=RECORDS
APOLOGIES FOR THE SNEEZING AT 5 MINUTES xddd
ayy bless you mate
@@fiftylaren xddd
The sneeze was wicked , no need to apologize
the rank on the track has nothing to do with what john said in the video
well gj getting 72 but Millions of people have played A12 While Only like maybe 1K players(prob less)have played A random YEET Winter 2022-01 ur legit comparing a random Map Rank to an Official Camp Map Rank
how much ubers i have got in my lifetime: 1? maybe 2 i dont really remember and its a map made for ubers
how much reactor yeets have i gotten? yes.
Man really just launched the game and played an hour just to prove a point.
I'm not saying Medicine's run was harder than Hefest, as I agree with you.
However, I think saying "I got 71st" on this map is not a valid argument for a comparison. Altered Nadeo maps are severely less hunted (at least in my experience) compared to campaign maps. I'm not a great Trackmania player but I've been able to get a WR on a map (now 3rd world) on an altered Nadeo map. Compare that to maps in campaign for TM2020 and I'm ranked way lower on any comparable map.
Again, I'm in agreement with you, I just don't see how placing well on a map that's most likely not as hunted as A12 is an accurate comparison.
It may not be the best way of showing my point, but the only thing I see whoch would be better is asking Medicine how much he has spent on this WR and then spending that time on A12, and I ain't losing braincells on A12 xd
Also, here the normal way takes 20s. So its like "its way easier, proof : i got in 1 hour a run with this strat that is 4s slower than normal way"
Edit: 92 players finished the map. So "placing weel", not really...
@@quentind1924 It's true, my time here isn't good. You said it yourself - 92 players overall. A12 is the most hunted map in all of Trackmania, easily having +200k players that played it. Do you see what I mean whan I say these two are incomparable?
I guess I never meant it to be an accurate "comparison", just a showcase of placing 72nd rather quickly and comparing it to Keby's time which 1.) wasn't done in an hour 2.) was driven by a much better player
i see you are a man of culture by using gigakubica from .cut. good video tho
i think the real difference in difficulty is the fact that ubers are very well-known and to a certain extent understood, whereas there are very few players who have learnt reactor. And the uber still is almost perfect for a uber, which we know is insane, whereas a reactor down cut like this could be easier than we think.
5:00 bless you
A completely accurate and well made video, as I expected from someone who watches the funny furry man
oh no, the recommended tab 0-0
The sneezing haha
Fliks, that was a sweet point proven. well played (no pun intended). This IS not comparable to Hefests run.
Great vid! And i agree that 1k hours isnt much at all lol. I have about 1.2k and feel like a big noob still :') keep it up!
ive played a12 for countless hours and the amount of times i've gotten an uber bug i can count on one hand
It doesn't annoy me that they have no clue, and think that this comes anywhere close to the A12 uber, but what annoys me that they aren't insightful even tho you have so much more hours than them. Also if you are a player that has actively played TMF and is interested in it, then they should certainly know you, and know that you are a also a FWO member. They will never reach what you achieved but they still stand strong on their dumb opinion.
good point
Bless you 4:59
thanks forgor to cut it out
@@Fliksu bless you :)
Who really cares? Not me, just enjoying going BRRRR in the funny car game.
nice ksp music in bg
I feel like this isn't exactly a great comparison since the maps are so differently hunted since the play count on an altered map is so much lower than a popular older map I'm not saying they are of equal luck or anything I just think this isn't a good way to demonstrate it
This seems a bit like you're gatekeeping trackmania. Not to say that you aren't 100% right about the amount of luck or dedication, but why attack this guy for being wrong about it? I think if you had explained your arguments initially instead of jumping in with an Ad Hominem argument, he probably would have been more open to seeing your perspective on it.
The guy was probably just under the effects of Recency Bias, and maybe he didn't understand how hard an uberbug is, but I don't think it's worth berating him for that.
1к hours... Daaaamn, thats huge...😂
1k hours in the game is still far too much for saying something like that lol
5:00 bless you
Thx