Do you agree with the ranking? ;) FAQ: Q: Why is Trackmania 2020 not included? A: Maps are hunted for a much shorter period of time due to seasonal rotations, therefore any shortcut world record is by default less prestigious. I've made two videos in the past about this topic. Q: Where is XYZ? Why isn't it in the video? A: Check the description for the full ranking spreadsheet. Q: Why did you speed up the runs? A: I didn't want the video to be excessively long and I tried to shorten it by only showing the shortcuts in real time. For the top 10 I made an exception and entire runs are shown. Q: What's up with the audio levels? A: The software difficulties I experienced (check "Stats for nerds" at the end of the video) made me so tired and frustrated that I forgot to level all songs.
The thing about 2020 shortcuts doesn't make much sense to me, why label a video "Best shortcuts" when you're not including a game due to the runs not being "less prestigious". Being good and being prestigious are seperate things.
@@Fliksu But a shortcut being good has no relation to how much hunting it took. Plus a lot of older runs were at a time when community skill was lower overall, or certain shortcuts only becoming a thing more recently so the comparison isnt really there. Plus people do still hunt older 2020 maps so its not like every map is only getting three months of play. Its a good video I just disagree with the noninclusion of 2020 records for a reason i dont think is very good.
a bit late to the party but great video man! I feel very honoured to make the top 3, in fact it's javs old top 50 video that inspired me to pick up nadeo tracks, so to now have multiple runs included is quite crazy to me. Keep up the good work :)
A lot of them _can_ race the normal way and do it well, but if a trick exists to get a faster time, they _will_ use it. It takes incredible skill and patience to do these cuts. I'm not surprised that D07-Race snagged the top spot. The trick that Rollin uses to get the finish from the "wrong" side was long thought impossible, and Rollin is still the only person to have ever done that cut. It's been over three years since Rollin got that record, and no one has ever replicated it.
@@MarsJenkar getting the freewheel skip is incredibly difficult by itself, I think only a handful of players have ever got it, so managing to do it with a bugslide setup AND executing it into the finish is nuts
Incredible video, a lot of things have changed since JaV's video, and me having stopped TM for a year and a half didn't help either. I almost forgot Rollin's legendary D07 WR 😭 Also RIP Hefest's C14 and Edge's Platform D4, but that underlines how impressive these new WRs are, being able to beat such masterpieces. I'm still in shock about the amount of overwalls in E02.
Rip Edge’s legendary Platform D4 cut o7 You will be missed 😢 It would have made it into top 5 this time as well if Schmaniol hadn’t beaten it ReallyMad
dont worry, i got punishment for it because of bias, this rec is easily top 10 but people were mad that i beat it so they voted it worse than it actually is xdd
I think what I needed to realise watching this video is that these are FWO members ranking them, not community. I think the rankings would've looked a lot different, but we also need to admit that these rankings are way more indicative of the difficulty of these runs, since they're judged by experts in the craft. In terms of flashiness and wow factor, I can't agree with the list as a viewer, but I fully respect all of these players and their opinions (except the one guy who skewed the rankings filling in 10s everywhere wtf). There's also the part where you specifically chose to include WR cuts, which I completely understand to keep the boundaries of the video safe, but then there's the Platform D4 bugslide>pillar cut (done by Edge: th-cam.com/video/MoTl34QUUpw/w-d-xo.html) which in my eyes would be on the number 1 spot in wow-factor (rated as a viewer) but wasn't included because of the criteria rules. I'd say this isn't a perfect video, but I absolutely adore it nonetheless, great work!
@@Fliksu "WOW" factor is just how flashy it is. Some of these are, while sometimes absolutely the most intensive (like number 1 spot), not exactly flashy because the tricks are a lot more subtle and hard to notice for the average viewer.
"weird codec issues only one person ever on the internet has ever experienced: 3" thought i'd save everyone else the time it took me to find out how to remove the overlay that's blocking it. anyway, not taking the difficulty of the cut and the thousands of hours it took into account, #2 looks so much more spectacular than #1.
shortcuts in the multilap maps gotta hurt to find. oh you know this possibly hard shortcut idea? yeah do that thrice, cause eventually if you upload the run with just 1 lap doing the shortcut there are people who learn it, do roughly the same time upload it and then one of those people does it again at lap 2 and eventually somebody uploads run that does same on all 3. like for example 1:07. somebody did it once and was happy enough that they drove rest the best they could. then somebody did the shortcut on lap 2 and was happy enough with it and did 3rd lap just normally. and then came the final dude who did it on 3rd lap too. and even if you do manage the shortcut you still need to do shortcut well enough so you wont end up too far.
Great video, i thoroughly enjoyed it. I just want to say i dont like too much how you displayed how long the record was held. for example "WR for 1275+ days". just say something like "2nd Sept 2020 - present (1275 days)". Or something. because just the number is outdated instantly the day after you post it, whereas the date that the record was set is more informative.
It isn't outdated, the "+" means it has been the WR ever since the date. If I were to put a calendar date like "12.04.2020" then it's harder to grasp than the amount of days imo. These world records won't be improved any time soon, so it works. Thanks! :D
Googling doesn't hurt "In statistics, the standard deviation is a measure of the amount of variation of a random variable expected about its mean.[1] A low standard deviation indicates that the values tend to be close to the mean (also called the expected value) of the set, while a high standard deviation indicates that the values are spread out over a wider range."
square root of ( the average ( distance between (each vote ,and the average))) in a continuous scale and large sample, ~68% of the votes are in [average - standard deviation, average + standard dev] as exemple, the 39 : 6.6 average, 1.73 standard dev : you can consider that 2/3 of the voter gave a score between 4.87 and 8.33
@@Fliksuthe music sounds so very aggressive, unchill.. Idk it's hard to describe. Ofc everyone has their own opinion but for me it's so bad that I had a really hard time
Do you agree with the ranking? ;)
FAQ:
Q: Why is Trackmania 2020 not included?
A: Maps are hunted for a much shorter period of time due to seasonal rotations, therefore any shortcut world record is by default less prestigious. I've made two videos in the past about this topic.
Q: Where is XYZ? Why isn't it in the video?
A: Check the description for the full ranking spreadsheet.
Q: Why did you speed up the runs?
A: I didn't want the video to be excessively long and I tried to shorten it by only showing the shortcuts in real time. For the top 10 I made an exception and entire runs are shown.
Q: What's up with the audio levels?
A: The software difficulties I experienced (check "Stats for nerds" at the end of the video) made me so tired and frustrated that I forgot to level all songs.
I do but I think that number 23 is way too low. great video tho.
The thing about 2020 shortcuts doesn't make much sense to me, why label a video "Best shortcuts" when you're not including a game due to the runs not being "less prestigious". Being good and being prestigious are seperate things.
@@sealiusmaximus2330 TM2020 shortcuts take way less time than TM1 WRs
@@sealiusmaximus2330 Comparing 3 months of hunting to 15+ years (for example ESWC) is really unfair.
@@Fliksu But a shortcut being good has no relation to how much hunting it took. Plus a lot of older runs were at a time when community skill was lower overall, or certain shortcuts only becoming a thing more recently so the comparison isnt really there. Plus people do still hunt older 2020 maps so its not like every map is only getting three months of play.
Its a good video I just disagree with the noninclusion of 2020 records for a reason i dont think is very good.
You get to top25 and wonder how is it possible that its only 25th? then u keep getting blown away, amazing
I wanna see a c14 WR with Dennis’s first 2 laps plus hefest Uber 3rd lap so bad
E02 endurance is just insane
Especially with all the back story.
a bit late to the party but great video man! I feel very honoured to make the top 3, in fact it's javs old top 50 video that inspired me to pick up nadeo tracks, so to now have multiple runs included is quite crazy to me. Keep up the good work :)
Ranked by Difficulty
I love FWO and the fact that even now community is still pushing games limits (most competitive racing game in history)
Sick video! When you see absolute gems of cuts already in the very beginning you know you're in for a treat
absolute fire - those schmaniol tm² cuts though
nice editing and really epic with this music, I like it:) Of course insane replays
Absolute banger choice of music, Im not usually the type to watch 30 mins of tm but the songs got me vibing and i didnt even know i liked this genre
:D
I think the mentality of FWO drivers is closer to that of skateboarders and BMXers than to that of racing drivers :D
Great analogy!! I love it, more trick-based indeed
A lot of them _can_ race the normal way and do it well, but if a trick exists to get a faster time, they _will_ use it. It takes incredible skill and patience to do these cuts.
I'm not surprised that D07-Race snagged the top spot. The trick that Rollin uses to get the finish from the "wrong" side was long thought impossible, and Rollin is still the only person to have ever done that cut. It's been over three years since Rollin got that record, and no one has ever replicated it.
Except wirtual with his pyramid mentality 😂
@@MarsJenkar getting the freewheel skip is incredibly difficult by itself, I think only a handful of players have ever got it, so managing to do it with a bugslide setup AND executing it into the finish is nuts
nice songs, feels like you also played N++ :)
sick runs!
I did! Great game for solo and co-op
@@Fliksu perfect for Trackmania grinders :)
thank you for the video every run is hella great
Banger music choice, always love DnB
What a feast to the eyes! Absolute ridiculous runs
Literally found out a new trick on my rubix cube while watching, great vid+
Simply the best game ever. The amount of dedication hardcore TM players are willing to put is trully amazing and I'm here to witness it!
Incredible video, a lot of things have changed since JaV's video, and me having stopped TM for a year and a half didn't help either. I almost forgot Rollin's legendary D07 WR 😭
Also RIP Hefest's C14 and Edge's Platform D4, but that underlines how impressive these new WRs are, being able to beat such masterpieces.
I'm still in shock about the amount of overwalls in E02.
Le goat
And then... Hefest got this run
And also this run..
And that one..
Aaaaand that one..
This one… yep, again, Hef got it…
Am I the only one who was waiting for TMN Race F-9 the entire video? They are all sick cuts tho, keep up the amazing work!
every month or two I rewatch this video to be motivated to get into fwo
always wanted to see a sequel to JaV's video, nice!
I've never played the game but holy cow #40 looked so smooth! I can imagine hitting that so well twice in a row😮
Rip Edge’s legendary Platform D4 cut o7
You will be missed 😢
It would have made it into top 5 this time as well if Schmaniol hadn’t beaten it ReallyMad
dont worry, i got punishment for it because of bias, this rec is easily top 10 but people were mad that i beat it so they voted it worse than it actually is xdd
@@Schmaniol
I would do the same honestly smh
Also Hefest D14. Both that and Edge's cut used to be the visually most insane cuts for me.
Nice run, nice skin!
Also, Rollin basolute trollage for not doing the cut properly what a lad 😂👌
Well done nice quality video loved it
Sickest music selection
these replays look really unnatural idk why
great runs guys - keep up the good work!
Honored to be listed here along with the greats!
these are amazing to say the least
"sorry mom I'm making breakcore" is crazy
Nice song selection!
E-02 11/10
Great video, dennis def the goat
How G-0 didnt win for style points is beyond me... Sick video!
lovely shortcuts, such good players. plus this music with headphones is really wierd lol
I think what I needed to realise watching this video is that these are FWO members ranking them, not community. I think the rankings would've looked a lot different, but we also need to admit that these rankings are way more indicative of the difficulty of these runs, since they're judged by experts in the craft.
In terms of flashiness and wow factor, I can't agree with the list as a viewer, but I fully respect all of these players and their opinions (except the one guy who skewed the rankings filling in 10s everywhere wtf).
There's also the part where you specifically chose to include WR cuts, which I completely understand to keep the boundaries of the video safe, but then there's the Platform D4 bugslide>pillar cut (done by Edge: th-cam.com/video/MoTl34QUUpw/w-d-xo.html) which in my eyes would be on the number 1 spot in wow-factor (rated as a viewer) but wasn't included because of the criteria rules.
I'd say this isn't a perfect video, but I absolutely adore it nonetheless, great work!
This is the best way IMO to rank, because wtf is "WOW" factor ;) Platform D4 is controversial and you can find the answer in the comments
@@Fliksu "WOW" factor is just how flashy it is. Some of these are, while sometimes absolutely the most intensive (like number 1 spot), not exactly flashy because the tricks are a lot more subtle and hard to notice for the average viewer.
Impeccable music taste
I feel like not enough people know the trackmania: build to race shortcuts, some of these would land cleanly here
What does the standard deviation measure in these videos?
0:12 deviations in member votes
@@Fliksuah right, I thought it was something to do with how difficult the trick was haha. Thanks
i like the music choice @fliks
ot: what do you think about the song integraation by venetian snares?
I did not expect that beat from the song's intro haha it's an interesting combination
@@Fliksu I swear that artist is trolling with how they structure their music, have a listen to frictional nevada
bangers mixed with iconic runs what a vid bro 🙌 (usedcvnt is in my playlist especially sorry mom im making breakcore xd)
awesome vid. also 1957 days old shortcut by johals wtf
9:03 should’ve been higher ngl
How come?
@@Fliksu I just think it’s very impressive in my personal opinion. Very nice video though
The placement is 100% fair imo
"weird codec issues only one person ever on the internet has ever experienced: 3"
thought i'd save everyone else the time it took me to find out how to remove the overlay that's blocking it.
anyway, not taking the difficulty of the cut and the thousands of hours it took into account, #2 looks so much more spectacular than #1.
but that is precisely why looks aren't everything ;)
The one that most impressed was Hefest on #26.
rollin= KING
Sick skin btw
Whats standard dev?
First 15 seconds literally say the full name - "standard deviation"
shortcuts in the multilap maps gotta hurt to find. oh you know this possibly hard shortcut idea? yeah do that thrice, cause eventually if you upload the run with just 1 lap doing the shortcut there are people who learn it, do roughly the same time upload it and then one of those people does it again at lap 2 and eventually somebody uploads run that does same on all 3. like for example 1:07. somebody did it once and was happy enough that they drove rest the best they could. then somebody did the shortcut on lap 2 and was happy enough with it and did 3rd lap just normally. and then came the final dude who did it on 3rd lap too. and even if you do manage the shortcut you still need to do shortcut well enough so you wont end up too far.
@@nevermind5657 Now imagine hunting a 10 lap shortcut... couldn't be me...
Great video, i thoroughly enjoyed it. I just want to say i dont like too much how you displayed how long the record was held. for example "WR for 1275+ days". just say something like "2nd Sept 2020 - present (1275 days)". Or something. because just the number is outdated instantly the day after you post it, whereas the date that the record was set is more informative.
It isn't outdated, the "+" means it has been the WR ever since the date. If I were to put a calendar date like "12.04.2020" then it's harder to grasp than the amount of days imo. These world records won't be improved any time soon, so it works. Thanks! :D
And then, Hefest [and the other FWO members] got, this run.
Why Stadium car only ? :( Canyon has some insane cuts or even Valley in Turbo
True, however it was already hard to rate so many Stadium cuts, let alone all environments. Plus we're mostly a TMUF team
@@Fliksu fair enough
good video :)
I can't help myself to feel like that c14 last lap was slower than the other two. It's so much less speed and pretty much the same distance.
I think dennis just got it not ideal with the 360
Nice shortcuts.
just a quick question: what does the "standard dev.:" rating mean?
Googling doesn't hurt
"In statistics, the standard deviation is a measure of the amount of variation of a random variable expected about its mean.[1] A low standard deviation indicates that the values tend to be close to the mean (also called the expected value) of the set, while a high standard deviation indicates that the values are spread out over a wider range."
Also I use the full name "standard deviation" within the first 15 seconds of the video
square root of ( the average ( distance between (each vote ,and the average)))
in a continuous scale and large sample, ~68% of the votes are in [average - standard deviation, average + standard dev]
as exemple, the 39 : 6.6 average, 1.73 standard dev : you can consider that 2/3 of the voter gave a score between 4.87 and 8.33
I hope Wirtual react too this and try maybe some Cuts 👌very satisfying great Job
Pretty sure he knows all these cuts tbh and prolly tried a lot of them
carzy
hyped
oli10
and Nawk isn't a member of FWO ?
Nope
how can i play on android?
?
download trackmania 3 from app store (no punjabi)
Not a serious tm player here, but why is the #8 that record it's just one pillair bounce no? seems way easier then most of these
Bug checkpoint
Is Brimm Portuguese?
Still no A03…
this is trackmania
mmm breakcore and tmnf yes pls
DELICIOUS
WOOOOOOO
Damn youtube and their copyright system
lets gooo
timbuktu drums african tribe ahhhh songs
"Vegas Pro crashes: 23" as a vegas pro user, I understand you💀
Don't even get me started hahah
gg asf
Sheesh ❤
WOHOOO
Jamie xx neuron activation
#3 looks like TAS but i believe he is an human
insane run
I am, as far as I'm aware, indeed human.
@@crosshairstm Dude these eight overwalls will always shock me given how perfectly executed they are.
could i have one of these skins?
@@maxencesanou-m2p only fwo members use them
13:59
I’m confused why you put e-4 as 23rd but besides that the video is good lol
E-4 should've been higher
I can't stand watching gameplay of old TM games I don't get how people play it so much lmao
aint no way 💀 bro wanted to avoid copyright strikes so he paid a kenyan tribe to drum for him
what tf is this music bro 💀💀💀💀 i really listen to a wide variety of stuff but tf is this i cannot
''i listen to a wide variety of music'' mfs when the music isnt mainstream
it's electronic music
What kind of “wide variety of music” brainwashes someone to not think this goes hard asf
@@ham164cs HAHAHAHHAAXDD LMAO
Some of the music fucking sucks. Made it really hard to enjoy the awesome video
Which songs? Why do you think so?
5 minutes in and yea, it's pretty bad so far. The one with the rapid left-right audio switching was especially awful.
@@Fliksu especially the first few. Idk about the rest, since I had to mute the video cuz it gave me literally headache
Your music taste kinda sucks, no need to listen to them
@@Fliksuthe music sounds so very aggressive, unchill.. Idk it's hard to describe. Ofc everyone has their own opinion but for me it's so bad that I had a really hard time
Hell yeah!