Best Canvas Tent? I Tried 4 to Find Out!

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  • @theoutdoorempire
    @theoutdoorempire  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So which one are you leaning towards? 🤔 If you have one, let us know what you think of it below. 👇

    • @stephenyoung4117
      @stephenyoung4117 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For cold weather the Springbar hot tents Classic Jack 140 and Skyliner seem better as well as for western or low humidity environments. For warm weather with high humdity ie eastern woodlands and midwest or south the Kodiak tents offer more ventalation particualry the VX high end version. They are more stealthy due to color. Purley on a qualitative basis the Springbars seem better but not by much. I have both.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stephenyoung4117 Very interesting observations. Thanks for sharing!

    • @richardwarren7492
      @richardwarren7492 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Kodiak - had one, lived in it for 3 solid years as a very rural camp manager. No leaks, Just onw small drip, resprayed with Camp Dry, problem solved, no rips, withstood several days with 75 mph wind gusts, just me and my dog. Lots of room for a nice cot and table/chair for eating and computer. Powered everything with solar. Sold it to my replacement. I'd buy another in a heartbeat. Great review.

    • @RayGrau
      @RayGrau ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Deciding on the Kodak (2023) 2 things I wish was my carrying was the same color as yours - instead mine is the same color as the tent. It will get dirty but... moving on. What I really wish is I could compact the tent poles into the tent carrying back. I have to have 2 bags for the tent - wish I could have just one or some how connect the two together... Can't wait to give the tent a test drive this weekend!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RayGrau Enjoy, it's a great tent! Also interesting about the color variation.

  • @kaspar_1982
    @kaspar_1982 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    i have the kodiak canvas 10 14 deluxe. bought 3 years ago for 400 with shipping but the taco style bag was an extra 40 bucks and well worth it. i would have purchased the spring bar even though it was twice the cost but was not available at the time with a long wait list. i keep this up for almost 6 months in my california desert camp for 3 seasons now through high winds and occasional rains and still remains almost new condition. no seam fails or tears at all and the zippers are fine. the rubberized floor and steel poles are incredibly strong. all in all i'm very happy with this tent.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's awesome! It is a dang tough tent.

  • @haroldmilroy4489
    @haroldmilroy4489 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    One of the ost comprehensive and thorough reviews of any outdoor gear I’ve ever seen. Thank you

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!

  • @tentsrus6945
    @tentsrus6945 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I have four different Kodiaks . The 9X 12 Cabin design with the attached front awning and optional side walls, 10X 10 Flexbow VX which I love for one or two campers, an adorable 8.5' X 6' two person Flexbow that I call "The Cubby" and the 10 X 14 Screen room which is not quite a canvas design. Excellent quality, never ever a leak in any and always a conversation piece in any campground. One thing you mentioned regarding zippers, you referrenced that Kodiak did not use YKK zippers. Unless they have changed recently, all my tents have the highest quality of YKK zippers. Work flawlessly! Also worth noting is that you can use the loft supplied in the Kodiaks in "Sling Mode" as well as a loft mode. I prefer this storage lay out mode over the loft because of head restrictions over head. You did an EXCELLENT comparison video. Oh and BTW.......That stove jack option on the Springbar is bomb!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the comment! And that's awesome about your experience with all those Kodiak models. Great tip about the "sling mode" with the loft, I'll be doing that next time. Regarding the zippers, not sure if it was on this video or another, but a couple other viewers mentioned the same thing, that their Kodiak tents had YKK zippers. I double-checked and mine has SBS zippers. Perhaps Kodiak recently changed suppliers, was trying to reduce cost, or it varies by production run. Still great quality though.

    • @AsTheWheelsTurn
      @AsTheWheelsTurn ปีที่แล้ว

      I use the loft as a sling also, holds plenty without overloading the roof too!

    • @adam8323
      @adam8323 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@theoutdoorempirethe basic versions do not use YKK zippers. The other versions still use ykk zippers. Checked on one that's over a year old and on one that's 2 months old.

    • @maryharrington8983
      @maryharrington8983 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm surmising the loft was designed to air out / dry clothing overnight (e.g. wool) while you sleep.

  • @smileysun9212
    @smileysun9212 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great comparison & nothing beats a Soringbar. Mine is probably 50yrs old & I bought it used 25yrs ago for $3. I can still get parts for it & they will service it for me.

  • @thebigd6249
    @thebigd6249 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I purchased the Kodiak, the exact same one in the video, and I love it. I've used it at 10,000 feet in Colorado in November. Snowed on me twice but the tent did well. I have a propane catalyst heater that did quite well and yes, I just slipped the hose through the door and zipped it up snug like you mentioned in the video. The heater kept the tent at a warm 55 F at night while it was in the high teens outside. But with my 15-degree bag on my cot and mattress, I was quite comfortable. One accessory I would like to mention that you didn't cover in the video is the vestibule. That was very handy. It wraps partially around the base of the awning and extends up to the awnings roof which offers protection of your gear outside which gives you more room inside. Great video. Thank you.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for sharing. I've never tried the vestibule, but it sounds interesting.

  • @stargazingscotty9240
    @stargazingscotty9240 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    For the Spring bar: The Classic Jacks and the Highland's are made over seas, but The Traveler, Outfitter, Compact, and Vagabond are still made here in Utah USA. I have a Traveler and an Outfitter and LOVE them both. Thank you for doing this review. I think you are the only one who did something like this so detailed. I appreciate it.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Absolutely! And thank you for watching. And ya Springbar is definitely still making tents in the USA. I was lucky enough to take a tour of their factory last week. Video coming soon. Take care!

    • @stargazingscotty9240
      @stargazingscotty9240 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@theoutdoorempire I will be watching! I've always wanted to see how they do it!

  • @WayneTheSeine
    @WayneTheSeine ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Best review I have seen regarding these springbar type tents. As thourough as it could be. Clear, consise, and well organized. Thank you!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome and thank you so much for watching and for the compliment! Happy camping.

  • @pearsjer000
    @pearsjer000 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've got a 10x10 Teton Mesa and it does the job. Plenty of rain and snow trips with no leaks- seasoned every summer. Stays warm using a mr buddy hearter.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! The price is hard to beat on that Teton Mesa.

  • @moussethymeadventures
    @moussethymeadventures ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have the Kodiak 10 x 10 I love that being a short lady I can set it up by myself. One thing. I have not figured out is it’s hot! I need to work on the ventilation with fans or something. I got it to with stand wind, but the day time heat is too much sometimes.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ya that's a tough one! I don't think any tent is great in the heat. While you can warm up a tent in the winter with a stove or heater you can't really run an A/C in the summer. Your best bet is opening all the windows you got. An electric fan couldn't hurt. In my experience they're better than a synthetic tent though, so there's that. Good luck!

    • @dfhutton
      @dfhutton 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kodiak sells an additional top cover for the 10x14, and I think the 10x10 as well, that really helps keep the tent cooler in hot weather, and warmer in cold. Also protects the roof.

  • @QueenBaha
    @QueenBaha ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now this is a goddam review thank you!!! I’m a solo female nomad & though I have always leaned towards the SpringBar this review put the nails in the coffin. 4 years ago I was going to buy one, but really wanted a high top ram promaster instead. Now that the prices are somewhere in outer space I’m strongly re-considering my original tent/minivan setup…I have to make a choice bec the SpringBar has increased in price by $400 or so bux since my first query. I appreciate you so friggin much with including other tents. I have also subscribed bec I need to learn some chit lol xoxo bro MADE IN THE USA!!!💃🏽

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh man, you made my day with this, thank you! 🙏 So glad to hear it was helpful to YOU! You might want to check out some of the other videos I've done on Springbar tents to dial in more of the details. Thanks again and good luck!

  • @GUNSLINGEROUTDOORS
    @GUNSLINGEROUTDOORS ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great video man well done. Only thing I would point out more Is the springbar stake system with the rope is by far the strongest of all of them. Not to say that the others are not good but in strong winds and bad weather the springbar will hold

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, that rope-filled hem is a clever but simple design that holds super well and even sheds water away from the walls. Thanks for pointing that out!

  • @alexmacdonald258
    @alexmacdonald258 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've had more tents-and used them all over the world-than God. Your review is the BEST, MOST THOROUGH review on this subject I've ever seen! Currently, we have a Kodiak 10X14, a Hilleberg Nammatj 3, KUIU Mountain Star 1 and 2, and an REI Hobbitat-the bigger one, and we've used them all for various applications, so I know what I'm talking about. The Kodiak is the proverbial Taj Mahal of tents, and I use it for elk & deer hunts, as well as trout camps. If I'd seen your review on the hot tent before I got my Kodiak, I'd have bought that one. All are fabulous tents, but it's a tough decision as I'm now looking for a 10X10. I need more reviews of the Teton, but price wise, that may well be the one! Thanks for a terrific and totally thorough review!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, man thank you for the compliment! And dang, that's a lot of tents you've had. I've seen some guys DIY convert Kodiaks to a hot tent, but I'm uneasy about cutting holes in roofs. Not sure if you've seen it already, but I did an individual review on the Teton Mesa that covers a bit more detail just on that one. Only real issue I've had with it is a couple minor sewing defects that I mention in that other vid. Not quite as high quality as the Kodiak or Springbar IMO but also a fair bit cheaper so still a great deal.

    • @alexmacdonald258
      @alexmacdonald258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theoutdoorempire Yes, I did see it, and again, probably the most thorough review out there! 2 strikes against the Kodiak hot tent though- I really don't like the placement, even on the 14! and the kit from Amazon is for a 5-inch hole, so it'd let in plenty of rain or snow. Another point in the Teton's favor is it's a true 10X10, while the equivalent Kodiak is smaller by a few inches each dimension.

    • @northerniltree
      @northerniltree ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello. This is God speaking. You and I need to have a little talk.

  • @gilko61
    @gilko61 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just watched the two cooler reviews and now this one, back to back. My compliments to your thorough, methodical, comprehensive, well thought out reviews!
    If you're looking for new review ideas, I'd like to see a review of truck tents and soft toppers. You know, the ones that mount directly on the bed. Cover the tent features as you did here, and give special attention to mounting methods and size availability. I have a 96 single cab short bed F150, less than common. In particular, I'd be curious to know if one can be used with existing bed side rails. Just a thought for you to consider. Besides, you have a truck....

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, thanks so much for watching my videos! And that's a great idea about truck tents and soft toppers. If I can drum up the budget for it, I'd love to. I've actually been looking at those myself for my pickup so ya it'd be interesting.

  • @robertwylie5567
    @robertwylie5567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was the absolute best, thorough review of all these tents side by side! Excellent job! I had been struggling to decide on one of these. After this review, i have now made a decision. Again, excellent job!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! I'm so glad it helped. If you don't mind me asking, which one are you leaning towards?

    • @robertwylie5567
      @robertwylie5567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theoutdoorempire
      Springbar! They all have decent pro’s, but I think after watching your well done review, that the build of the Springbar gives it the edge in longevity and versatility. A big pro for me was that rope around the bottom seam for the stake loops. From an engineering viewpoint, it looks a lot more durable for long term health of that bottom seam.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very astute observation. I think you'll love it!

  • @jimlaird8875
    @jimlaird8875 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've been looking for a good comparison video before I purchased a canvas tent. I really couldn't find one. After looking at individual reviews, I went with the Teton Mesa 10×14. I just bought it in November and have been gradually adding supplies for my first outing this coming spring. It's just my wife and I and this tent appears easy to set up and "glamp" in. I wanted a trailer but after seeing these "spring bar" type tents, I figured it would work just as well and not break down!
    Thanks for a very informative video. I am now very pleased with my choice 😀

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it helped Jim! I love some good validation on my major purchases too. Happy camping!

  • @BBQDad463
    @BBQDad463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this video. This was a very in-depth comparison of these four tents. Great work! Well done! Subscribed.

  • @reyleondelaselva1789
    @reyleondelaselva1789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've had a Kodiak 2 person tent for years and love it! Great video.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, it's hard to go wrong with a Kodiak. Glad you liked the video!

  • @walkingfish7123
    @walkingfish7123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Been watching your videos for a couple months trying to decide which brand. I know lots of people with kodiaks so i was able to check them out or spent time in them before. Couldnt find any other brands owned by friends so i followed the masses and just ordered the kodiak 10x10 vx

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can never go wrong follow the masses, right?! 😂 But really, it's a good tent. I think you'll like it.

  • @CraterBeSilly
    @CraterBeSilly ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great tent review video! Very thoroughly done. This is the first time watching your channel and we have now subscribed. We purchased a Springbar Classic Jack 140 hot tent and a Winnerwell large stove over a 2 month ago, but haven't had a chance to use it yet. We also got the rain fly and ground pad. I feel the Springbar is the best!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the sub! We're a brand new channel but we hope to make a great channel. I'm glad you like the video and I think you're gonna love that Springbar. Curious to see what you think of the larger size stove. I just went snow camping in mine this week and had to restock the medium Woodlander about every hour and a half so I think the large will be a nice improvement.

    • @CraterBeSilly
      @CraterBeSilly ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@theoutdoorempire We got the larger stove for larger logs and longer burn time. We also got the water box to heat and then hang on the side - for hot water and radiant heat.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good call! Knowing what I know now, I would do exactly that same thing.

  • @JohnAnderson-hl5mq
    @JohnAnderson-hl5mq ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude.. greetings from Fort Worth Texas! Glad I found your channel and subscribed.. VERY informative and VERY thorough and well presented.. good delivery of the important information.. looking forward to your channel growth👍.. take care!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow thanks so much for the sub and for your kindness! I've got lots of ideas and will be making a real go of this so more videos coming soon.

  • @MrDochorrible
    @MrDochorrible ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic, thorough reviews. You even contacted customer support! Really helps us make an informed decision.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful! That's what we're shooting for.

  • @RT-gv6us
    @RT-gv6us 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am a little bit late in finding this video. Very well done by the way... One comment I would have is I am a little bit surprised that the White Duck is the only model with a bathtub style floor. I would have expected that from Springbar and Kodiak. They have been in this market a LOT longer than White Duck. I would think their engineers would see the wisdom in not having a seam on the ground during times of rain. My issue with the White Duck is that velcro on the bottom of the door. That would be a no bueno for me. But to be honest the hot tent option in the Spring Bar kind of overshadows all of that. Like a lot of guys I own several tents and use them in the late fall for hunting. The comfort of a wood stove when temps are down near or below freezing cannot be understated. The wood stove also produces DRY heat that is great for drying out wet socks, boots, etc...whereas Buddy heater (propane) is nice but produces a damper heat that will raise the humidity level in the tent. As I recall the Springbar is the more expensive brand, but that hot tent option is a deal maker for me. Buy once Cry once...

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      An excellent synopsis. Thanks for taking the time to share!

  • @habituallinestepper8839
    @habituallinestepper8839 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think I want a Springbar or Kodiak. This was fantastic thank you.

  • @samTollefson
    @samTollefson ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have the older 10x14 Springbar made in Utha, it is one of the highest-quality tents I have owned, however, It is too small for what we do now so I upgraded to a large 5m Bell tent to accommodate a hammock w/ frame, a queen air mattress, table and chairs, potty, etc. It is more like a small cabin than a tent.
    If you ever review Bell tents, after much research and 50+ years of camping experience, the Aussie brand Psyclone is hands down my choice of the best quality Bell tent available.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great insight, thanks for sharing! Ya, I'm looking into some bell tents now but hadn't heard of that brand, Psyclone. Are they easy to get in the US? What do you like about it?

    • @samTollefson
      @samTollefson ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theoutdoorempire I just edited my Amazon review for spelling errors and might take a day or 3 for it to be re-published. Sam

  • @earlfoss99
    @earlfoss99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos are great. I got a Classic jack 100 recently, partly due to your reviews.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to hear! I'm glad they were helpful. Get outside and enjoy that tent!

  • @josephgeorgeejr7039
    @josephgeorgeejr7039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Getting my Kodiak soon, iam going to make a insulated roof panel for hot summer days..love that roof on the white duck..but I would never want that velcro door

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya it's sort of a love it or hate it feature. Being able to fully open the door and tie it up top is nice sometimes too, but the Velcro is not ideal.

  • @aaronpat123
    @aaronpat123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great vid! I own 2 Kodiak tents.The basic 10x14 and the 9x8.The Springbar and Kodiaks are the only ones to compare as far as Quality.

  • @SaltwaterServr
    @SaltwaterServr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the Kodiak 10x14 deluxe and love it. I've had it camping in the 20's near Cherry, AZ with a Big Buddy propane heater on a 20 lb tank with a very stiff wind blowing. It was generously warm to say the least.
    I've also camped in it in the rain on the other side of the mountains near Jerome, AZ and it held up perfectly. I moved one leg of the awning to let water drain off so it wouldn't pool up. I've additionally camped in it in the heat of the summer with a portable AC unit inside running off of a Harbor Freight inverter generator. That was really nice glamping to be perfectly candid. .
    A note about the dark colors. I like the light color of the Kodiak. I have camped on the beach in the summer in my Kodiak and those dark colors on the Prota just scream extra heat to me.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great insight thanks for sharing! I've had a couple of these tents in nasty weather too and they definitely hold up quite well. And I hear ya on the colors. Though, fortunately that Prota has a lot of big windows so you can get some massive airflow through there.

  • @cmckulka
    @cmckulka ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic video! Obviously a ton of work went into this. Very helpful!

  • @TJones58
    @TJones58 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would love love to see a review on the king camp Khan series but I can't really find a good one anywhere! I think you'd be just the man for the job!!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I saw that tent at a tradeshow and would love to give it a whirl. I'll see what I can do.

  • @nealh3826
    @nealh3826 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just grabbed the teton last second before a hunting trip. The top bar can be sketchy, but it really doesnt have to be. Moving slowly and intentionally, I've had no issue. Ive got no reference for comparison but i like the Mesa!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, it's not a bad tent by any means. True, I'm not a fan of that top bar, but I love the big doors and the price. Good value in that tent.

    • @nealh3826
      @nealh3826 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theoutdoorempire I have noticed a few squirrely stitches in places and thread hanging around

  • @danieljames4405
    @danieljames4405 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've had two springbar tents and I absolutely love this tent! Their patent rights to this tent expired and all other company started making tents like this. I can't go wrong with this tent spring bars the best!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to know thanks for sharing and for watching!

  • @clarkfamilyoutdoors7417
    @clarkfamilyoutdoors7417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 10x10 kodiak and a 10x14 Teton. I have added a stove jack to both and love them in the winter time.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome! I'd be curious where you put the stove jacks and how you went about that. Any leaks or issues so far?

    • @clarkfamilyoutdoors7417
      @clarkfamilyoutdoors7417 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theoutdoorempire No issues, I stitch 2 passes with a Speedy Stitcher and waxed thread. I have videos posted.

  • @breakdownbill1
    @breakdownbill1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have the Kodiak 6086 2 person tent. Best tent I have ever been in. I couldn’t imagine how nice standing up in that 6 person model.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very cool! I've never been in a canvas tent that small but I can imagine it's nice too.

    • @realtruth529
      @realtruth529 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also have the kodiak 6086.Great tent and in australia, longway leisure, they sell a UVprotective top that fits perfectly.makes it colder and darker in hot weather. All was send to denmark with import tax,, but very happy with this compact tent f.or longterm use. Can easy fit on a terasse. Big water bottles in corner if you stay on a terasse when you cant take down. ! Feels bigger than it is, and good headspace. It feel airy and very good airflow ! Doors and windows are all both mesh and canvas, so good it summer climate to regulate from inside. dont move much even in high winds. Had mine in use in rain storms. Never a drop of water inside ! A tip is that you can fit a saroon or ligh tblanket on the end sides to protect from strong sun and makes it even more cosy or dry clothe easy. Aniother great tent is the crua outdoor TRI if you want a super 4 season tent with a medium size and small porch area. 160 height. Its a bulletproff tent and special for those who want more dark to sleep and keeping you warmer with their insulated inner cabin. PVCwindows to look out is a plus in bad weather and keep warm. Both tent i long term testet. kodiak about 4 month and crua TRI a year in total. Tri add on is a sunreflective flysheet. Love it in summer to keep cooler. reverse it and it helps to stay even warmer in cold weather. Both are good for longterm use, wellmade and very durable.

  • @TheChristalblue
    @TheChristalblue ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice review was going springbar until you mentioned the door issue/ I want 2 doors and often put a screened gazebo off one that my dogs and I really enjoy. Maybe white duck like the bathtub floor but most of all really appreciate your reviews tyvm I am also considering the MKcamp as I have a hybrid vehicle.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair enough! Personally, I don't care for the extra door, but I've heard from many people like you who do. And there are plenty of good options for it from Kodiak, Whiteduck, and Teton. That MKCamp looks interesting. I've never used a tent like that, but I'm curious. My main concern is that it seems like you'd be more limited on where you can camp since there's not always space or level ground where you park.

    • @ShiningSakura
      @ShiningSakura 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you can find a used one, springbar did make a Eurotent model with 2 doors that is slightly larger than a 10x14, I have one and half is a screen porch area that can be sectioned off with a zippered divider with door. They are rare these days, but you can find them.

  • @gregparrott
    @gregparrott ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for making such a detailed review and comparison. It is also good to learn that Springbar is the design's originator, that they offer an American made version, and that they offer a hot tent option. I have both a backpack-able, ~3 lb collapsible titanium stove for use in teepee tents, and a larger ~15 lb stainless 'Gstove'. That makes Springbar's tent stand out if I were to get a tent that is so much bigger and heavier. It's not clear to me why this type of tent design can supposedly be setup so much faster than a standard wall tent. Is it just because of fewer poles?

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're most welcome and thank you for watching! Sounds like you've got the stove for a canvas hot tent. Indeed it's easier to set up than a regular wall tent because there are only a few poles. You stake it out, set the roof bar, then stand up two upright poles, one on either end. Compare that to assembling the entire frame of a wall tent then setting the corner poles and sometimes center poles. The Springbar design is just more compact and quicker to deploy. Perhaps I'll do a comparison one day.

    • @gregparrott
      @gregparrott ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theoutdoorempire Thanks for the reply. I subsequently watched your video specific to this tent and the hot tent setup.

  • @jacobrogers2214
    @jacobrogers2214 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought the Kodiak VX 6011 back in the beginning of 2022 for $770 ($825 after tax 😅) and have loved it.
    Easy setup/takedown. Fits the sleeping pad and toddler back and play just fine. Stays cool in the summer with the outside misters and warm in the Utah winter with the Heater Buddy. Definitely worth the price.

  • @DV77737
    @DV77737 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review! I’m rockin the Kodiak 9x8 for one person it’s amazing

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome, I love the idea of that smaller footprint for solo camping.

  • @hemipirate
    @hemipirate ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, this is probably the most thorough and comprehensive comparison video I've ever seen!
    Thanks for your work on this, much appreciated. I'm leaning toward the Teton Mesa. I like the price, plus they have a 20% off sale right now till the end of May (2023)

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked at and thank you for watching! For the price, the Teton is hard to beat.

  • @PennytheBernedoodle
    @PennytheBernedoodle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the Teton Mesa 10x14 and love it. Got it for $600 so couldn’t justify a spring bar since they were close to double that.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a great deal on a Mesa.

  • @707SonomaComa
    @707SonomaComa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Wife & I have a Kodiac canvas tent and love it. It is not light by any means. But we like it because we actually put a queen size bed spring home mattress in it! It fits inside with no problems. It would easily fit a King size mattress but I think a California King would be best as it is a little bit
    narrower and can easily fit the extra length. At first I thought that was ridiculous but after the 2nd night sleeping on it I am convinced I can't get a better night sleep! Can those other tents accommodate a full size mattress through the door?
    If you have space try bringing a full size mattress, you will never regret it!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sounds awesome! You could get a full size mattress through there upright, I'm sure.

  • @patrickray8411
    @patrickray8411 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a 10x10 Kodiak deluxe. Fantastic tent, can't say enough about it. This year I think was about 17 years of moderate use (5-10 weekend type outings a year) in an eastern climate and it finally started leaking. Kind of from, well, everywhere, the canvas just stopped being waterproof, though there are no signs of mold or mildew. I think it might be because due to a living situation change and associated lack of storage space, I have been storing it in a non climate controlled storage unit for the last year.
    I am not at all going to complain about 17 good years from an outdoors product! No previous tent ever came close. And I have a bigger family now and I think I will replace it with a 14x10. I'd consider your alternatives here, especially Springbar. Props to the originators, I respect that they at least try to keep it made in America, and they seem like a standup company through and through with support. But, Kodiak sells through Cabelas. Between Cabelas bucks and accumulated gift cards its gonna be dang near free. Which is real hard to ignore.
    Great video though! Thanks for giving me a great comparison of what the other brands are like.

  • @the.tricky.outdoorsman
    @the.tricky.outdoorsman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Been wanting a canvas tent and was on the fence between spring bar and kodiak. I definitely want something that I can use in the brutal steelhead months in Erie. I already have a buddy heater but thay stove is enticing.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good luck! I'm not a fan of Buddy heaters, saw one burn down a truck once. I sure like these tents though. I just put a DIY stove jack in the Kodiak too. Did a video on that if you want to consider it. th-cam.com/video/JyrIV8foKqQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @seansimone-e6k
    @seansimone-e6k 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kodiak definitely. Kodiak also makes a cabin style tent with a front screen room that you can buy extra. Trouble deciding on that or the flex bo vx12x14 what do you think 🤔

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a good question. I don't have any experience with the kodiak cabin tent yet. I've heard good things and it looks nice. Materials are all similar to the flexbow, but it has a stove jack. One downside I see to the cabin tent is I'm pretty sure you have more poles, and therefore more weight and bulk to transport. And I believe setup is a bit more work and complexity to get it pitched right, staked out with guy lines, etc. Pretty sure the flexbow is simpler. I also added a DIY stove jack to my flexbow so it can be a hot tent now too. And with the sloped roof in the cabin tent, there is less full standing room inside. You'll have to hunch over a little more than in the flexbow most likely. But like I said, never used the cabin tent, those are just some observations based on what I have seen.

  • @michaelbandeko3519
    @michaelbandeko3519 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have two Kodiaks, the 9X8 and the 2 man. Love them both!!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! I've never used one of the smaller ones like that, but I'm very curious.

  • @littlebanshee
    @littlebanshee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would consider getting a Springbar over all of them if the price wasn't so high. For now I am thinking of going with Kodiak 10x10 I really like the look at this tent and how it has two doors.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a good choice for sure. Similar to that, and at a similar price, is the Springbar Classic Jack 100 (it's a 10 x 10) or their Highline series. Though, I don't have direct experience with those. But if you like two doors then the Kodiak is great.

  • @candaceharewood16
    @candaceharewood16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks I have the Teton 6m bell tent with the bathtub floor is sad to see they didn't add it to these. Looking to make a porch

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very cool. I hope to test out the bell tent next.

  • @alanosborne1947
    @alanosborne1947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I own a 10 X 14 Springbar that is over 35 years old and Made In America! If you want a quality canvas tent Springbar is the way to go save your money just a little longer and buy the Made In America version and be done with it! There's a reason quality costs more! I forgot to mention if you have children and need more room in your tent look at the cots that are stack able.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's awesome! 35 years is amazing. And I've seen those stackable bunk bed style cots. Kinda spendy but maybe something I'll add next summer. Thanks for the tip!

    • @tylerhorner2392
      @tylerhorner2392 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are all made in china probably by the same person

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tylerhorner2392 I've wondered the same thing. Indeed the ones in this video were all made in Asia, but most of Springbar's models are made in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA.

    • @pasofino9583
      @pasofino9583 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tylerhorner2392I order containers of products from China for resale, if China builds cheap it’s because you didn’t want to pay for the quality version. They will build anything at the price point.

    • @ericrinehardt9373
      @ericrinehardt9373 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I own an Asian-made Kodiak. Multiple seasons in, camping around 5-6 times a year with some trips as long as two weeks, and I’ve had zero issues and zero leaks. Putting any canvas tent away dry and clean and doing the occasional water repellant treatment is all you need for a tent to last decades. I’d love a US-made Springbar, and maybe one day I’ll own one, but it’s not in the budget right now. Country of manufacture does not always equate to quality.

  • @gilko61
    @gilko61 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I almost forgot, it's the Springbar for me, hands down. Besides the quality and features, I like the light colored material because it will reflect more of this Texas heat.

  • @ccampbell7214
    @ccampbell7214 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a great, informative video... I've been eyeballin' that Springbar for sometime now.. Specifically the one with the stove setup.. I never 'pulled' the trigger, because of the fact Springbar 'farms' this tent out to CHINA ... I'm a stickler for made in America ... The moment, second, they bring back this tent, and source material and build in the US I'll buy it immediately!! No question.. it cannot be that much more, or hard to put in that extra feature with having to raise the price too much..

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you liked the video. Since I made this one Springbar released a USA made hot tent with the same footprint as the Classic Jack, but an improved design. It's called the Skyliner. I've done a few videos about it including one where I compare it head to head with the Classic Jack. Check them out, you'll probably like that Skyliner. I even did a video of how it's made at their factory in Utah, very neat. Springbar started importing a line of tents to compete in price with all these other companies who only manufacture overseas. But Springbar still makes plenty of great stuff in Salt Lake City.

  • @scottyhansford2117
    @scottyhansford2117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own the Kodiak Canvas 10x10, I also have the vestibule which goes with the awning…

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      How is that vestibule? I've never had one but I've wondered about it. Is it worth it?

  • @ClimptheGreat
    @ClimptheGreat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks, ended up buying the White Duck Prota 10x14

  • @stevenmorris3181
    @stevenmorris3181 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any ideas about an additional hole in the hot flap for Winnerwells external air stove?

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      I checked that out and I'm not sure what the best solution would be. If the external hose reaches, you could maybe add another hole to the stove jack panel. That would be the least intrusive. I'd hesitate to punch a hole in the canvas, but that is probably an option especially if you can properly sew an access panel in and waterproof it. But also I'm not sure that external air stove is worth it in a canvas tent. The purpose of it is to bring in more outside air as opposed to recycling the already warm air inside and consuming oxygen people are breathing to fuel the fire. But in a canvas tent you have rather excellent air circulation and exchange with the outdoors thanks to the breathability of cotton canvas. That negates half the benefit of the external air stove, in my opinion. And in my experience those stoves are more than capable of heating the whole tent just fine, so much so that I'm often wearing a T-shirt inside when it's freezing outside. I believe that external air stove was designed primarily for saunas or hard sided structures where you want to preserve as much internal heat and oxygen as possible. Personally, I'm not interested in that external air stove for a tent. But now I want to build a sauna with it!

  • @HerrP58
    @HerrP58 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super thorough coverage. Great job. Thanks for all the details. Now, after all that info,... I'm still not sure which one's best for me. Go figure!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome and I'm glad it was helpful! Good luck in your final decision.

  • @dschenk952
    @dschenk952 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video, thanks. I don't recall seeing a break down of weight. They all seem to have two "bundles", one for the tent and one for the poles. I am leaning towards the Teton. After back surgery I'm afraid the setup may be an issue for me, as well as the weight when packing from the truck to the setup area. Do you have a breakdown of what the two bundles weigh? Failing that, any recommendations for a lighter (nylon) tent with the same 10x10 foot print that a Teton XXL cot would fit in?

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great questions! I just weighed all the tents and pole bags individually and here's what I got (rounded to the nearest pound):
      Teton Mesa 10x10 = tent bag 38 lbs + pole bag 28 lbs = 66 lbs total
      Kodiak Flex-bow Deluxe 10x10 = tent bag 37 lbs + pole bag 29 lbs = 66 lbs total
      Springbar Classic Jack 140 14x10 (quite a bit bigger than the others) = tent bag 54 lbs + pole bag 25 lbs = 79 lbs total
      White Duck Prota Deluxe 10 x 10 = tent bag 58 lbs + pole bag 21 lbs = 79lbs total
      As far as a lighter alternative, I don't have personal experience with these, but my sister's family enjoys the Nemo Wagontop tent. It's pretty nice and sets up real fast with plenty of room. I believe the REI Wonderland is another fan favorite, but it ain't cheap!

    • @dschenk952
      @dschenk952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theoutdoorempire Thanks, based on the breakdown and your reviews I'm leaning towards either the Teton or the Kodiak. The Kodiak seems like the quality control is the better of the two, but I sure like that bigger door on the Teton. In another video I saw where the stitching on the Teton had a few issues. I reckon I'll address those issues with Teton should I go that way. Your thoughts?

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dschenk952 Honestly I think you'll be happy either way. The Kodiak does seem to be a bit better on the quality side and they simply make and sell a lot more tents and have a big following. The big Teton doors are great and you can usually find a better deal on those than the others. If coat doesn't matter is probably go for the Kodiak unless you like those big doors more then that could be reason enough to go for it.

    • @dschenk952
      @dschenk952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theoutdoorempire Thanks, I've ordered the Kodiak 10X10 using your Amazon Affiliate link. I was a little gun shy about the quality of the Teton regardless of the door size. :)

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dschenk952 Wow that's great, thank you for the support! I think you're gonna love the Kodiak.

  • @timg9134
    @timg9134 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Springbar hot tent option is cool. I've got the 10x14 VX. Love it so far. I've only gotten to use it on a 5 night trip so far. It rained 3 inches in a little over 24 hours and didn't leak a drop. So impressed with that. Everyone we ran into that were in nylon or polyntenst got absolutely soaked.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds about right! That's definitely a tough tent and I'm sure you'll love it for many years.

  • @huetuber1204
    @huetuber1204 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had the Teton canvas tent in this video. I returned it. During the day, it turns into an oven inside. So I upgraded to the Kodiak VX tent with windows on all 4 walls.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting. That darker color and less ventilation must be the culprit.

    • @huetuber1204
      @huetuber1204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theoutdoorempire The less ventilation - or should I say, lack of - was definetly the culprit.

  • @lynneberhardt8818
    @lynneberhardt8818 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a Kodiac. It's a bigger tent. I can't remember the dimensions. It also has a porch option. I've used every year for deer and elk season in hot weather and in -30 snow burying everything weather over the last 5 years. Rain, wind, snow.. it does great. I wish it had a stove jack. But my buddy heater does great.

  • @jamesledbetter6107
    @jamesledbetter6107 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    good video and informative. Thanks. Thinking springbar now

  • @NWMT
    @NWMT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liked the Springbar, but in the videos I've seen there is a lot of wall sagging that appears in the videos, and not any added guy loops or attachments that I can see, especially in the corners (and especially around the end with the hot tent feature. IME, especially in the West, unless you guy-out walls, corners, etc., more effectively you won't enjoy the tent and it won't offer it's best performance in shedding weather. I understand one can add these things themselves, but these tents that exhibit so much sagging should have had that solution planned in to start. Seems missing on the Springbar, despite it's positive points. Not sure why anyone would present a tent with sagging walls in any video? Anyway, your vid commentary /editing was very good and nicely paced, and appreciated. Thanks,

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for watching and for the feedback! While it's a bit counterintuitive, my experience with this Springbar design has been that a bit of slack in the walls allows it to move with the wind. It trades some rigidity for flexibility. I've never had it blow over or have a wall give out, even in 40-50 mph gusts. You can guy it out from the awning, which can help, and you could also guy it out from the crossbars on either end on top. I've never felt like I had to do that though. And this also applies to any of the tents in this video. It's just more noticeable in the Springbar here since it is a bigger size (10x14 ft) where as the others are all 10x10 ft. That extra weight, material, and span on the larger size does seem to weigh in on it a bit more. Perhaps this is a design limitation that explains why none of these companies make a tent bigger than 10x14 in this design. I live and camp out west year round, and it's served me well so far.

  • @chrisklest1238
    @chrisklest1238 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does anyone have recommendations on how to air dry these after a camping trip? I live in a city and park in the street, so I don't have a backyard to lay them out. I was thinking that I could drape it over my vehicle and attach it somehow to the vehicle.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya, that's a tricky one. I drape mine out in my garage over top of random junk if it's really wet. In the summer though, if it's not actually raining when I'm camping, I just start taking it down midmorning on the day I leave after the canvas is dry. Then I fold it in half and let the bottom of the floor dry in the sun. Then fold it again a bit later to let the next part dry. I'll use a towel to wipe the vinyl floor down too to speed things up. Within a couple hours it's good to go before I leave.

  • @Katy-Did
    @Katy-Did 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic review! Great job! Thank you!

  • @2visiondigital
    @2visiondigital 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Learned a lot, thank you.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You bet, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @DrDanTDC
    @DrDanTDC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent information, thank you for taking the time!

  • @jaydub2888
    @jaydub2888 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love my whiteduck bell tent..

  • @IVSDesign
    @IVSDesign ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the TETON MESA 10x14. I like the tent overall but the cross bar is simply dangerous. You MUST insert one of the cotter pins before attempting to collapse the lever. I did not and ended up in the hospital having my finger reattached. It's a really serious flaw.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! That is no joke. Sorry that happened to you.

    • @davidmorse598
      @davidmorse598 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will second that. I didn't have it as bad but I lost my tumb nail because of the same thing. Didn't pay attention when I first got it the hinge folded up on my thumb when I was holding the bar.

  • @chadmorgan7976
    @chadmorgan7976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review, lots of good info and well presented. Thank you.

  • @karenr67
    @karenr67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good demo. Answered questions I was thinking about.

  • @jeannebiebel6322
    @jeannebiebel6322 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kodiak flex-bow for me!

  • @julesvern-u4e
    @julesvern-u4e ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This review is amazing thank you. I know these are quality tents but $2000 cdn is a little much if you ask me. I'd really like to own one but I just cant bring myself to drop that kind of money on one tent.. Tenton Sports wants $800 just for a tarp that goes under the tent and in their amazon add they only show picture of the tent, not of a tarp. Are they hoping people will buy it thinking they are buying a tent? Also people complaining about the company completely ignoring them. Very shifty

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching! Too bad to hear about what you're seeing with Teton. Might be worth going direct or buying in a retailer if you have the opportunity.

  • @turdferguson345
    @turdferguson345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I flip the awning over the roof on our kodiak to make it darker.

  • @MikeUtah
    @MikeUtah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Outstanding video, very impressed thanks for the effort.

  • @frejyasdaeg
    @frejyasdaeg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review, thank you, this was immensely helpful!

  • @bradysmail1969
    @bradysmail1969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a greeat comparison!! Thanks for taking the time to do it. Are you Sam Rockwell's Brother? We have a bet going.... If not, you should contact him to act as his stunt double. :D

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahahaha! Nope but good to know I've got a backup plan in case TH-cam doesn't work out. 😂

  • @SeptemberWasp
    @SeptemberWasp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Canada (not sure that is relevant) the White Duck is vastly cheaper than the Kodiak, I know the Springbar is in in own realm from what I've seen but the Kodiac and Duck seem close? Why the price disparity?

  • @rickvollmer3646
    @rickvollmer3646 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I own a 10x10 Kodiak tent , just love it . Kodiak tents offer a wide range of accessories from tarps , chairs , lofts etc .

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed, I want to try out some of their other gear like their heavy duty sleeping bags, bed rolls, and truck tents. Oh my!

    • @TheSeedsower107
      @TheSeedsower107 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love my 10x14 Kodiak Tent ! Ive had it about 5 years now going on 6. So happy with my purchase. 53 yr old female here. I camp in it alone most of the time. Once in a while a sister joins me. Its roomy , well made, dry and beautiful.

  • @jonnyfish76
    @jonnyfish76 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey what cots are those? How do you like them? Thanks

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Coleman Trailhead. Nothing special but they do the job.

  • @mikegintz5256
    @mikegintz5256 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome detailed review. Thank You!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're most welcome! Thanks for watching.

  • @greggibson6993
    @greggibson6993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Kodiak VX 10x10 and it is great!

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you like those extra windows on the sides?

    • @greggibson6993
      @greggibson6993 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theoutdoorempire Great air flow in the summertime!!

  • @parodoxis
    @parodoxis 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for this! My notes:
    - Kodiak Canvas
    - No awning accessory attachment. Does newer model have?
    - window on one side, only other side is door
    - grey roof
    - vent zips at top
    - loops for hanging stuff
    - Teton Mesa
    - most compact - poles go in thirds instead of halves
    - roof bar is worse - buckles up with codder pins to hold
    - one large door/window on side, not split
    - ventilation zip ups at top
    - imperfect sewing
    - power cord opening
    - Springbar
    - adjustable notch awning poles
    - triangle opening door
    - only door on one side, big window on other
    - power cord opening
    - organizers
    - White Duck Prota - deluxe
    - All aluminum poles
    - velcro on awning sides for side panels
    - second stake grommet on bathtub floor
    - floor comes up bathtub style - unique
    - bottom of door seals with velcro
    - door rolls up and out of way
    - has YKK zippers uniquely
    - darkest roof
    - no organizers but loops for attaching stuff

  • @BlueberryStinkFinger62
    @BlueberryStinkFinger62 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    White duck canvas bell tent any tent that can handle 80 mile an hour straight line winds more than once in Oklahoma is my tent..mine did 16' white duck canvas bell tent..

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've heard great things about those tents. Hoping to check one out myself. Thanks for sharing!

  • @nicholasreseburg7360
    @nicholasreseburg7360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the Teton and and am not a fan of the ridge pole as you said . Do you think it would be possible to buy a different pole from one of those company’s to replace it ? Or would it not fit properly ?

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a great question and idea. I'm not 100% sure the lengths would match up exactly, but my gut says the Kodiak one would be the best bet since the T-ends have the male pole connector like the Teton. Next time I pull these out I'll see if I can measure them and let you know.

    • @nicholasreseburg7360
      @nicholasreseburg7360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate it thanks

    • @dougwalker4947
      @dougwalker4947 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theoutdoorempire also on my Kodiak 10 x 10 the top pole is able to be finely adjusted for tension with screw on the one pole where the two meet. That could possibly help for changing too.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wifibum Not sure about these other guys, but I haven't used my Teton over the winter so no further issues yet with the stake loops or anything. Don't remember if I mentioned it in this video (I did in my Teton Mesa review video), but when I got mine new, there were a couple sewing defects where there were holes or buckles in the seams. They haven't caused any further issues yet, and I probably could have gotten them taken care of under warranty, but I didn't want to mess with sending the tent back and all that. Not a dealbreaker, but not quite as high quality construction as the others in this video.

  • @norlinblack5017
    @norlinblack5017 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A darker colored tent will get a lot hotter in the summer. I live in the southeast so I always use the lightest colored tent in summer and winter.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya I figured as much. That Springbar is a nice light color.

  • @kevinkehlet1543
    @kevinkehlet1543 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have owned my Teton Mesa 14 and going great

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to hear!

    • @kevinkehlet1543
      @kevinkehlet1543 ปีที่แล้ว

      @theoutdoorempire I should clarify. I had my Teton Mesa 14 for 5 years. Also, I have to agree on the center roof poles. With that tension, someone could get hurt

  • @josephgeorgeejr7039
    @josephgeorgeejr7039 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I had the springbar I'd definitely put magnets on the door to keep it closed but easy to open

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good idea! I might try that.

  • @fly04002
    @fly04002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Proceed! Love it. I’m really liking that Springbar…

  • @timbrimm4397
    @timbrimm4397 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do they have shoot through screens

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting question. Not really. The only one that has a panel other than a door that you could open to take a shot (I assume you mean while hunting) would be that Springbar Classic Jack 140. There is one window that is removable where you can then zip in the stove jack so I could see how you could peel that back for a shot.

  • @LampWaters
    @LampWaters ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice. These look to maybe pack down smaller than an oz tent

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya they pack down decently small compared to a canvas wall tent or cabin tent. A lot fewer poles.

  • @willwebstar1974
    @willwebstar1974 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I’m going to grab the spring bar

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a solid tent, and the wood stove compatibility seals the deal for me.

  • @richwood2741
    @richwood2741 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The american made Springbar is the best. Being able to walk into their store and pick up supplies and get work done on site is great.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely a fantastic option, especially if you can swing through SLC.

    • @coleman8267
      @coleman8267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How u know the difference

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coleman8267 A lot is the same between the American made and Chinese made Springbar tents but the US made ones use some different components, mostly American made also. There are some design differences as well. I did another video on that if you're interested.

  • @mountainstomarshes8966
    @mountainstomarshes8966 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super helpful and well done video man. Love my 10x14 Kodiak but wish it had a stove jack

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You and me both! I'm planning on doing a vid on how to put a stove jack in a tent so keep an eye out for that.

  • @brandonyoung181
    @brandonyoung181 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kodiak's warranty is trash. I had my awning rip, called them up and they said to take it to a local tent shop in town and they'd reimburse me. After the repair they told me to email the invoice so they could repay me, I never got my money. I called them up and they kept giving me the runaround. They eventually would just hang up on me when I'd call asking what was going on. that was like 6 years ago, I'll never buy another Kokiak product.

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ouch! That's a major bummer. Sorry that happened.

  • @aotec89
    @aotec89 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a taller jack tent?

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, but I believe the Skyliner is a little taller. Or at least it feels like you have more headroom.

    • @aotec89
      @aotec89 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ thanks. I’m looking at the 140 jack and the white duck 14 Altimus. I usually camp by myself but sometimes have 2-3 guys with cots so not exactly sure what I need

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've been in an Altomus as well and it definitely has more headroom in the center, but that quickly goes away the closer you get to the sides. As far as walk around room with headspace, I'd say it's a wash between the two, and that the Skyliner has a bit more than both given the roof is longer and wider than that CJ 140. Either will handle 2 guys with cots with plenty of room for gear. You can put a third guy in there too, might have two cots pretty close to each other in a CJ 240 if you've got a wood stove in there too, but if you like each other it would still work fine. Four would start to feel tight with cots, but probably still doable. In the Altimus you'd likely be all on the outside edge which works well. With a stove in there you might be running out of outside edge space for three but could probably make it work. Hope that helps and good luck in whatever you choose!

  • @dallasquinby2209
    @dallasquinby2209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do believe that Kodiak has a stove set up some of their tents

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I believe their cabin tent has a built in stove jack.

  • @briannagorman3119
    @briannagorman3119 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I lean towards the Kodiak version

  • @georgelaliberte1053
    @georgelaliberte1053 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do a test in the rain
    Heavy rain

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be super interesting. I'll have to watch the weather carefully this fall and storm chase a bit to make it happen.

  • @52253825
    @52253825 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THANK YOU!

  • @nickb8618
    @nickb8618 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Teton is running a sale on there mesa at really really good price

  • @glock19gen3
    @glock19gen3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kodiak leaked last year and was horrible. I re sealed it this year and hope it holds

    • @theoutdoorempire
      @theoutdoorempire  ปีที่แล้ว

      Dang that's a bummer! How old is the tent and where was it leaking?