Testing a $550 Canvas Hot Tent in a SURPRISE Blizzard
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ม.ค. 2025
- I wasn’t expecting a snowstorm when I set out to test this new tent, but it started nuking when I got to camp! In this first look at the White Duck Rover Scout canvas tent, you’ll get a close look at all of its features and functionality. I discuss everything from workmanship and durability to value. Come camping with me in this budget-friendly hot tent to see how it does in the snow!
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To prevent frozen stakes in the ground... Let them stick UP a bit. When ready to take tent down... Pound stakes in slightly to break free, then remove.
That's a good tip, thanks!
That's some great advice. Thanks bud.
I saw a guy using timber screws for tent stakes. An impact driver makes it super easy.
Lol, it's the same principle as picking carrots
The Army has taught me that you need an old timer with experience to teach you or to read a manual about how to put up a piece of equipment. Hopefully, you can have both. You're not less of a man for spending 5 minutes to read instructions to be efficient later.
Wise advice! Thanks for watching.
We love your reviews, Chase! Glad you stayed dry overnight. It's not often we see videos from creators who go as in depth as you do about the setup steps, the features, actually using the tent and general feedback (positive or areas for improvement). Also, the moment you realized that portion on the backdoor was for the awning was great to witness. 😄
Some quick thoughts/notes on a few of the points you mentioned, for anyone interested in additional insight:
- We went with DYNATEK (polycotton performance blend) vs. DYNADUCK (100% cotton) to reduce weight, without compromising on weather-resistance. We've seen folks looking for more cost-effective, lighter tents from us and the Rover seemed like a cool way to address that.
- No ridge pole is for similar reasons-easier to transport and fewer setup steps. This Rover is 57 lbs., so generally a little lighter than 100% cotton tents (like the Flexbow style). Unfortunately, there is sometimes a bit of a sag along the ridge without the pole.
- The PE floor is a lighter weight than, say, the heavy PVC floor in our Avalon Bell Tent or Alpha Wall Tent, but it's tested for tensile strength and durability!
We love the notes on the setup steps and suggestions like a place to hang things from. It's reviews like these in the wild that help us continue to make stellar gear.
Keep on keepin' on! 💪
This is awesome, thanks for sharing your expertise! Interesting to hear about your material and component choices. I appreciate you taking note of the feedback. Keep up the good work.
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@@WhiteDuckOutdoors @theoutdoorempire Really looking forward to the 8x13 in GREEN!! I pre-ordered a few weeks ago, have been scouring the internet in anticipation of getting to try it out early next year!! Thanks for the great review!
Nice to hear a company likes feed back good and bad. Also explaining why choose the materials used.
@@kokadjooutdoors620 We're doing our best! 😄
Cool review! I really appreciate practical reviews based on experience. I'm looking to buy my first hot tent as I'm preparing to buy a van and finally start winter camping. TH-cam just happened to suggest your video at the perfect time :D
Glad this came along at the right time for ya. Thanks for the kind words.
The number of stakes and guyout lines are why I don't mess with Whiteduck tents anymore. They require too much fiddling with to get set up just right, and if the tent is not tensioned correctly, it will cause problems if it rains. I have one of thier bell tents and it takes forever to set up. Springbar tents are for me!
Wow, what an unexpected adventure!
🌨 It's great to see a real-world test of the White Duck Rover Scout tent in such challenging conditions. I'm really curious about how it holds up in the snow-can't wait to hear your thoughts on its warmth and durability! Thanks for sharing this experience!
Yeah it was a good first run. I used it again for a week of hunting camp, got a lot of rain and a skiff of snow. Did great, no leaks. Not sure about a heavy snow load though.
If you get the sides and flaps toght and stretched and kept from flopping, it does help with the back puff on the stove function too, theyy do need to add an adjustable venting at the bottom right behind the stove, so the cold air doesnt fill the tent as much and the stove gets as much cold air as it can handle or you allow it.
I don’t camp but I found your video thorough and informative. Pluses and minuses of the tent and its cost will help a prospective buyer make an informed decision. I also think just winging the setup is good because if somebody less experienced than you sees this, it might encourage them to read the manual and take your advice to practice at home before trying it in a snowy environment.
I’ve been watch the Atik Family recently and those inflatable tents they have really look appealing. I’m sure they have their drawbacks too but they go up really fast and hang in there during some wild conditions.
Appreciate you sharing a realistic experience.
Thanks for the kind words and for sharing your thoughts on the inflatable tents. I'm curious about them too.
Just add a couple more sections of stove pipe to get a better draw on your wood stove, that will solve your smoke problem. I've had this problem more times than I care to remember! Had the same problem with a diesel heater that would always coke up with soot and crap out in the middle of the night, usually when it's around ZERO degrees! I added a couple sections of stove pipe and problem solved.
Really?! Ok, I didn't know that would help with the draw. I'll have to give that a whirl. Thanks.
I have an old canvas cottage type tent,I put an aluminum top pole on my setup,the tent doesn't sag in the middle and stabilizes the tent in windy conditions.
A tip on tent stakes and frozen ground. Don't pound them in all the way. To remove at the end of your trip. Give each stake a tap in to break the grip of the frost from the ground. They will pull right out.
That's a great hack! I'll have to remember that.
Wow, this reminds me of going to the field in Alaska in the army.
Thank you for your service!
Most campers and especially backpackers don't spend much time in the tent except to sleep. After all, they go camping to be outdoors. After a day of hiking or fishing, they build a campfire outside. With a good winter sleeping bag your body will keep you warm. If it's really cold, bring in some hot stones from the campfire to jump start your sleeping bag 😊
Some people are here for the tent, others for the fire, but I'm here for the word obtuse. We just don't use it enough. I know I don't.
🤣 Love the video! Subscribed!
I love it, too, haha. Obtuse is an awesome word! Thanks for the sub.
That’s acute comment.
Sorry but I couldn’t resist.
I think that the little stakes are for the base where the walls meet the ground. The bigger stakes are for the guy line stakes.
Also having the guy lines almost completely extended where the stakes are as far out as possible will help get the pitch better.
You could very well be right about that. I'll have to check the manual. 😂
You're spot on! The big stakes are for the ropes, smaller ones are for the tent floor along the walls.
@@WhiteDuckOutdoors well I guess I should of also read the manual haha. Now I know. And also don't need to read the manual! So thanks!
LIVE AND LEARN. HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Happy New Year to you too!
I have the same tent. Just bought it a month ago. Pairing it with a knico packer stove
Nice! It's a solid choice. I've never used the Knico stove. I'm curious, what made you go with that one?
Nice! I just started watching your channel this year. I was very happy to see you got a Rover Scout tent! That's what I just got. I have the 8x13 so I can take my family of 4 & 2 dogs. For the poles, I'm going to start bringing a couple of those rubber square furniture pads. I've set mine up a few times now and it takes me about 15 to 20 minutes. I run a paracord from front to back and it works great!
Thanks, that's a great tip about the furniture pads!
@NorthShoreBronco big fans of your channel!
@@theoutdoorempire oh... and don't feel bad, we also set up ours backwards the first time. We were getting frustrated with the zipper system until we noticed it was for the rear haha.
@@WhiteDuckOutdoors Thanks! Big fan of your tents!
Lacks a ridge pole. That would make a big difference in the set up.
Reminds me of the 9x11 officers tent that I stated out with.
This was a product design choice to help reduce the weight of the tent and the setup steps. It's always good to see feedback!
Yeah, a ridge pole would have made it much better.
@58Kym the tent is even reinforced in the ridge.
It will most likely be transported in some way other than on your back.
So the advertised weight should not be an issue.
But quite easy to make a two piece pole of wood.
Thanks for answering.
Thank you for a very enjoyable and informative video! That is a beautiful stove too. Is it a winter well? What was the one of the Norwegian stoves. That was the first time I ever saw that tent. March on
Yes, it's a Winnerwell Woodlander. Great stove.
That was fun, I learned some stuff. Like I probably won't do the stove tent camping ever.
Hahaha. Glad you learned that before you bought crap you hate.
SNOWTREKKER Tents for the Win... No sags, no complications.
I'm gonna check them out.
@@theoutdoorempire SnowTrekker Expedition. Get the optional front screen, With optional rear screen and clear poly window. Also optional stove jack cover. You will not regret it. (I have Expedition ShortWall 8x10 w/ these options for warm weather usage) Beautiful tent. I winter camp Wisconsin and summer camped Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado and NM. Curious campers praised the look and design every where I go.
Different league. They run 3x the cost of this tent
Good to see some real tent stakes, usually you get a piece of hanger wire ... LOL ... .. .
Do you have a link to the rice thing you got at the outdoor retailer show?
Edit: nvm I found the link in the description, thank you!
Try it out, it's delicious! Not super high calorie, but easy to eat and easy on the gut. Would also be easy to cold soak.
💥Use magnets with carabiner hooks on the large side surfaces, especially if there are trees nearby. Means more tension and also space inside.
I found your channel this evening and subscribed. Your hot tent reviews are great. I don’t see any hammock videos. I recommend you do some hammock camping. I have a great eleven foot hammock and I sleep better in it than I do my own bed. Just a suggestion you could really enjoy. Thanks for sharing.
I appreciate the suggestion. I've never slept in a hammock but have thought about trying one. I'll look into it! And thanks for the sub.
@@theoutdoorempire I have two Warbonnet Hammocks and they are fantastic and they are expensive. I have four Hennessy Hammocks and they are very reasonably priced and are very high quality. Be sure to also get a high quality underquilt unless the temperature is not going to be below 60-65 degrees F. The longer the hammock, the flatter you lay. It will be good for you to try hammocking and I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. I also have a hammock hot tent from Amazon (cheap) and it works well when it’s cold. You still want that underquilt. Thanks and good luck.
Did you have the damper opened on the stove?
Yep
I like the tent, but, it needs venilation. I saw a similar situation with the stove blowing smoke back in...the folk changed the angle of the outside pipe and that fixed it.
Yeah, there was definitely some user error involved.
It’s hard to beat a Kodiak Tent. Looks like you found a firewood rich environment.
Definitely plenty of good wood right around there. Lots of deadfall from an old fire.
I like my alaknak and my bighorn 3 but I always look at other winter tents
Cool 😎. Nice presentation 🙂.
Thanks for watching!
Lived in 12x14 and 14x16 cabin tents year in year out while working in mineral exploration , also spent a fair bit of time living out of military bell tents in Labrador and nanovut. Still trying to figure out what all the fuss is about..
Sounds like an adventurous life!
Cool vid! Have you ever reviewed the Kodiak 12x9 cabin with deluxe awning? Curious if there’s more room than the flex bow style tents. Curious what the pros and cons would be. Appreciate the content
Thanks for watching! No, I haven't tried that Kodiak tent you mention, but I'd like to. Will add that to the wishlist.
Great video! Where is that pullover/zip up hoodie from?
Thanks! It's a Cabela's Wooltimate hoodie. I've had it for over 10 years and I love it. It's incredibly warm, cuts wind well, and water doesn't soak through in snow and light rain. I legitimately love it.
I have never thought Kodak is easy to set up. Now that my father has passed away last year I can't even set the one we have up by my self anymore or when I do it's never correct. I've thought about just getting ride of it.
Sorry for your loss. Not sure what kodiak tent ya got but dont get rid of it before you take some time to perfect the setup 👍
Get a canvas tipi. We have 2. A onetigeris and a Tentipi. I'll never go back to a normal tent especially winter camping. I can setup our Safir 9CP tipi in 10 minutes all by myself and that could almost fit that tiny tent inside it.
I love that. I'll try and get one to test, sounds fun.
@theoutdoorempire we invested a pretty big chunk of change into our setup but when you're life is dependent on your equipment...... I do recommend a Tipi style though. Wind doesn't bother them as much and the snow build up isn't nearly as bad. Less stakes as well.
Ive got the old Kifaru tips and a few others. I'm not fond of the center pole but the worst part about the tipi designs is the sag in material overnight and especially under snow load. Im seriously looking into a Snowtrekker backcountry shelter for setting up near vehicles.
Finally, someone else with a tipi-tent.
We too have the Safir 9 and feel it has been worth the price. Ours is about five years old now and still in like new condition. We’ve used it in dry conditions and snow and it keeps us warm and safe. Rain is a different issue as water always comes down the chimney pipe. A light rain is not to noticeable but in a heavy downpour it can get quite wet and humid in the tent. Humidity caused by the rain coming down the chimney pipe. This situation has only occurred a few times thankfully.😊
@mnbsay9548 when we ordered ours they gave us a rain hat for it. Tbh haven't used it really. We do some summer camping but not a lot I don't handle summer heat that great. Absolutely love our Tentipi. Was thinking about getting the pole system for it to get rid of the center pole.
How warm did that hot stove get your tent?
When it was really going it must have gotten up to 80 degrees in there.
That extra fabric on the door is to keep in heat in brother
I have a question, I need to waterproof a polyester tent. what product would you recommend for treating the tent walls and rain fly. I've seen a jug of Star Brite on Amazon but I'm seeing mixed reviews.
That's a good question, but honestly, I don't have any experience doing that myself so I'm not sure. A polyester tent most often comes pretreated for water resistance. I'm sure there are products though that will do the trick.
Sure did enjoy this video and hearing your honest opinion of the tent. And I appreciate knowing the better and lesser points without having to spend $550 first. So thank you! That particular model in green reminds me of the French F1, which I love. Just a cool timeless design overall. Curious if that’s the medium size Woodlander in the video? That’s the stove I have and would be using should I purchase a White Duck or a comparable canvas wall tent that size.
Best to you from central Indiana!
You're welcome! It is the medium sized Woodlander. It's a great stove and would work perfectly in a tent like this. The right size too. On my second trip with this tent I used my Winnerwell Nomad large size, and it got way too hot in there.
Thank you so much for replying and answering the stove question. Good information to have going forward.
I love my woodlander medium, but the height (while it does make tending the fire easier) sure limits the number of tents it can be used in. Wish Winnerwell sold a “cradle” that would hold the stove securely with the legs folded in. Or… maybe I should just make one! 😆
Another length of stove pipe would have helped.
Ok, good to know. Thanks for the tip.
The Canadian in me says put a hockey puck under your poles for a larger footprint
That would be perfect! 🇨🇦
Thanks for posting. I emulate your style - Set it up without reading a manual.' It's more 'interesting'. My main concern are the zippers. I've had them fail, then working around a compromised tent. Replacing them probably can't be done, at least not without the factory doing it, at substantial expense and weeks or months of delay. That's especially true with this tent's super long zipper running almost the entire perimeter of the front (and rear) face. I'd prefer multiple discreet zippers so that a failure is both easier to repair and easier to devise a work-around.
I definitely enjoy the experience of "figuring it out as I go". It's fun for me. And yes, lots of big zippers here at potentially risky places (right at the ground), so zipper failure is a real risk with this tent.
It should be possible to put another slider on the door zipper in order to prop the top of the door flaps open for ventilation.
Nice summer option to unzip the sides.
Good idea!
Why no ridge pole?
Simplicity of design and to cut weight. It works pretty well.
The Duck Rover Scout tent seemed to be overly complicated and difficult to get pitched tight. Practice might help, but unsure that I would want to fight with it.
I used it again for hunting camp for a week after I made this video and it went more smoothly. Not perfect, but a cozy fit for one person.
If you're sleeping in a tent with no ventilation and a woodstove, I hope you bring a portable carbon monoxide alarm!
I do and I did!
When he says "I couldn't get these super tote" is he trying to sat super TIGHT?😂😂
He is saying super taut.
I've got a question. Which one moved the fire pit or the front door? At the beginning you said the fire pit was at the back of the tent. Then later when you were standing between the tent and fire pit. The tent was open and you could plainly see the stove in front of the tent. That makes one of them moving . Just asking
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I didn't move the tent and there's only one place for the stove. I did comment on how I thought I had the back door on the side where there was that fire pit outside, but it turned out that was the front door. Cheers.
@theoutdoorempire that explains it
Wow what a lovely ❤❤❤❤
Canvas material is to heavy for the poles
I don't think so. The poly cotton blend makes it lighter than normal cotton canvas. By design it's gonna swoop down a tad like a horse's back.
You forgot to add that you need to have some ventilation windows at the top of the tent.
Looks like a Boy Scout tent/hobo tent
I love that traditional look. That tent should be a hoot. I wish Kodiak or Springbar had made something similar. I trust their customer service more than White Duck; plus, their floors are heavy vinyl, not cheap woven poly tarp floors. I do not own either, but I have done hours upon hours of research, a
service and support seem to be an issue...even AI spits out that result. I would love to own a good canvas tent, but have concluded that Louisiana is not the place for a canvas tent. BTW... .they include manuals as a free firestarter. If you look real close ,in the back, bottom right corner, in very fine print, it says, "DO NOT READ.... BURN IMMEDIATELY."
😂 So that's what the manual is for?! Haha. I'm not confident in whether or not a canvas tent would do well in a very humid place like Louisiana either. Not sure about the potential for mold and mildew, regardless of how well you take care of it.
@@theoutdoorempire Yea, if I had a large enclosed shop to set it up to dry out and a place to keep it in a temp controlled environment I would buy one in a heartbeat. Canvas is so much better than synthetic and I love that little tent....great for one man or maybe two. It should be easy to keep warm.
@@theoutdoorempire BTW....one of my favorite camping spots for fly fishing is the Copper Basin area near Mackay. Beautiufl spots to disperse camp.
i grew up with ww2 army wall tens no floor we used canvas tarp no stove we used feather bed comforts & a big fire outside we used in boy scots& camping wiyh the family
Well, I wouldn't trade my Kodiak 9x8 Flexbow for this. That thing goes up in a hurry especially if you use lag bolts instead of stakes. I'm a little too old (lazy, really) to use a stove, so I settle for a Kovia heater, which really does the job. The Flexbow is even a little cheaper than this White Duck, and has better ventilation to boot. I'd put the Flexbow with the roof cover against this any day.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'd like to give that Kovia a try.
If you had the tent 90* from how you staked out the venting would have pushed the smoke across the top of the tent rather push it back in through the hole you made. I think that would have helped
The only thing I like about that tent was the ground stakes. Too much flop on the walls and the roof for me.
I've had a lot of tents and this one is a garbage 4 season tent. You cant get rid of the sagging sidewalls without some sort of sidewall poles. Same with the sagging ridge
How dod you heat up your spaghetti? Not enough instructions for me.
Just boiled water and put it in the bag to rehydrate the freeze dried spaghetti for 20 minutes.
Not sure I would sleep well in a tent with bad ventilation and a fire back venting.
I be worried I may sleep too well, as in not wake up.
It's understandable. I cleared out the smoke before I went to sleep and I also use a little carbon monoxide detector for peace of mind.
Gotcha 👍
How did the hunt go?!?!?!
Nothing more than an armed hike on this trip. But I got one later in the season.
Do your self a favor and get a diesel heater! Let the wood stove work during day but at night nothing beats the diesel heater 1 gallon can get you 20 plus hours roughly 3 nights
I'm curious about them. Several people have suggested that now, so I'll have to give one a whirl one day.
@ worth the investment. Couple hundred dollars. I use both a wood stove and heater . When stove goes low I hit the remote and back to bed
19:00 It's called an "onigiri." It actually says what it is in hiragana right on the front. You should really try a salmon one.
I got a multi flavor pack with salmon as well and I confirm, it is delish!
Both ends of the tent needed to be open to vent out the smoke during the night? Hmmm, doesnt seem right to me.
It was part my fault from poor fire management and not getting the fire to burn clean so the smoke only puffed out when I opened the stove to work on the fire. But then the smoke billowed up and got stuck up high with no way out. I didn't have to open both ends, but I did at one point just to clear it of smoke more quickly and be done with it. They weren't open all night.
I would love one of these its better than my hot tent right now. If you want to give it away or sell it let me know
? Where is the blizzard
Tell white duck they can send me a free tent lol.
I'll let 'em know! 😉
@@theoutdoorempire Thanks for letting us know!
You'll read a comment on a YT video, but not the manual?? 😂
It appears so 😂
Why not just get the Russian bear tent,much simpler all the way.Jez from Eastern Tennessee.
I'll have to check that one out. Thanks!
cant imagine the price on that in Canada..prob triple the price😢
That's rough.
The sag in the ridgeline is not a good thing
nah, the ventilation problem is a deal breaker for me
I can make that.. easy..
No windows or vents?... no place for hangers... Not good
The walls and doors roll up all the way, you can get 360-degree ventilation! 😄
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You’re supposed to use wax on zippers
Too many guy ropes. It's been my experience guy ropes and family camping don't mix, especially at night
Good point !
Good point.
Or having hyper dogs
Should have read the instructions. I found your video annoying with all the I guesses. Otherwise it could have been more enjoyable.
Thanks for watching. I’ll try to do better on the next one!
Unapologetically real... how many people have gone about this the exact same way. There's lots to learn about what not to do here.. valuable
I enjoyed his learning curve. You don't have to watch if you don't like it
@juleenlees9667… Personally, I find the humility and real life scenarios shared in this channel quite refreshing. It’s honest and relatable. We’re not watching to debate the relevance of manuals. We’re watching to learn from the experiences of others. Which we just did. And now we know.
Taut is not pronounced "tot".
Taut and tot are not homonyms.
"Intresting" is not a word.
Awning not "ahning".
Caught is not pronounced "cot".
Caught and cot are not homonyms.
God bless Murica where we can talk how we want! 😂
I am fascinated by this comment because all the words you said are NOT homonyms are actually homonyms for me. I’m genuinely interested in how you pronounce them yourself. Care to share? In my Idaho accent these are homonyms. Where are you from/how do you pronounce these words?
Dang guy….. read the stinking manual! Your video would’ve been great if you were better prepared… proper preparation prevents poor performance.. 😎
Is that you, Dad? 😂
Way too expensive I’ll pass
Agreed and I don't like the design.
Fair enough.
Are you advertising a tent or are you canping? So ill just bypass your videos.
I'm reviewing a tent while camping. Thanks for stopping by!