The REAL Elizabeth Holmes Story - Company Forensics

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    What happened with Theranos?
    Her rocksteady gaze and baritone voice lured you in. Then, Elizabeth Holmes's idea blew your mind. One drop of blood, hundreds of results: Theranos was going to revolutionize the healthcare industry. And Elizabeth Holmes led this revolution. Investors blindly trusted her. She rocked magazine covers, and the media called her the female Steve Jobs. Her company was worth billions. But it was all a lie.
    How did one person fool the entire world? We'll tell you all about it in this Company Forensics: Theranos.
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    0:00 - Intro
    0:58 - Theranos: The birth of Pandora's box
    3:37 - Theranos: The promise of a revolution
    4:42 - Theranos: Hype and powerful alliances
    5:34 - Theranos: Mystery
    8:16 - Theranos: Consequences
    9:45 - Theranos: The mastermind
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  • @bernardfinucane2061
    @bernardfinucane2061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2114

    One thing all her big name backers had in common? None of them knew anything about medicine.

    • @leslieitasaiah-asher1880
      @leslieitasaiah-asher1880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      A very interesting point and also sheds light on how some of these investors view the pharmaceutical and healthcare industry...

    • @divyangvaidya9675
      @divyangvaidya9675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Yes. At least have some Stanford or UCLA or Johns Hopkins M.D.s with her. Also, can you imagine Theranos existing during today's COVID-19? People would get false results.

    • @leslieitasaiah-asher1880
      @leslieitasaiah-asher1880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@divyangvaidya9675 I think according to the way she did her business operations and governance, she had to be the smartest person in the room at all times - an unrealistic position to hold and maintain

    • @divyangvaidya9675
      @divyangvaidya9675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@leslieitasaiah-asher1880 Agreed.

    • @dhrgkbqxtjr2743
      @dhrgkbqxtjr2743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@divyangvaidya9675 People already get false positive COVID-19 results. Happens every day.

  • @NoNamedNobody692
    @NoNamedNobody692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1667

    Investors: “So let us get this straight, you’re a 19 year old Stanford drop-out wanting to start a Medical Biotech Company but only have a semster’s worth of basic Chemical Engineering principles, no degree, no medical knowledge or medical degree, biomedical engineering knowledge, businesses administration knowledge, or prior knowledge in chemistry and/or pharmaceutical sciences & diagnostics YET you want us to still shell out hundreds of millions of dollars to venture your startup? And that all sounds realistic to you?”
    Elizabeth: “............ yis.”
    Investors: “SOLD! Here’s your millions!”
    Elizabeth: 👁 👁
    👄

    • @mnikhk
      @mnikhk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      Her dad was a VP at Enron that should explain some more why they were ready to invest so much.

    • @coyotelong4349
      @coyotelong4349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Those look exactly like Elizabeth’s eyes too 😂

    • @malaikah5642
      @malaikah5642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      You gotta replace the eyes with 🧿

    • @mustang60348
      @mustang60348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      You have to understand GREED, IF she was right, this would have been worth Trillions. Greed will make people lose their common sense.

    • @JohnDemetriou
      @JohnDemetriou 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Well, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg etc were exactly the same

  • @mr.ssj3847
    @mr.ssj3847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +586

    Tbh, For a 19 yr old to commit fraud at such a high level on its own is another type of impressive.

    • @bettyboop-xg6jo
      @bettyboop-xg6jo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hahaha, never saw it like that. V.good. 😂

    • @Kamisuitendo
      @Kamisuitendo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm 17 and doing nothing

    • @MrCarpelan
      @MrCarpelan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@Kamisuitendo Neither did she!

    • @deanjordan6053
      @deanjordan6053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MrCarpelan She was selling C++ compilers, then again, knowing her, they probably just took a different compiler and changed up a few lines.

    • @Kinai89
      @Kinai89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      she was secretly backed by corrupt Bush families......

  • @ushdhyxywb
    @ushdhyxywb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1276

    When you get Steve jobs from the Dollar Store.

    • @vaitalv9361
      @vaitalv9361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Or the Steve Jobs at home

    • @spac18
      @spac18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Jobs himself was also a sociopath, he succeeded because of Woz

    • @WolfiiDog13
      @WolfiiDog13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@spac18 He was an asshole of a boss in the workplace and sometimes his personal life, but definitelly not even close to a sociopath.

    • @BillClinton228
      @BillClinton228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      She's living proof that an attractive young female can get tons of money for doing absolutely nothing. If she was a man they would have asked him for some sort of a prototype that his machine worked as stated

    • @spac18
      @spac18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@WolfiiDog13 he indeed was, he even abandoned his daughter

  • @marcnadeau2367
    @marcnadeau2367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    Her father, Christian Rasmus Holmes IV, was vice president at Enron. I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

    • @synaesthesia4183
      @synaesthesia4183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Psychopathy is proven to be genetic. Fascinating

    • @lechenaultia5863
      @lechenaultia5863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wow!

    • @kla4600
      @kla4600 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's "a" vice president. They had lots and lots of those, only a few who would have been involved in accounting fraud. No idea about CR Holmes.

    • @alucard6919
      @alucard6919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Shit apples don't fall far from the shit tree.

    • @vladimirpoutine7522
      @vladimirpoutine7522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Very true. However with 2 minutes of research, you'd have found he had nothing to do with the scandal and his employment timeframe doesn't match up. The "wow" factor here is people bought this without a second thought. Now that's what I call a sheep being led to slaughter.

  • @vedocapp
    @vedocapp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    I realize that in this industry, many founders have the skills to be good liars and sales people. To me that explains how many startups are able to to secure funding

    • @campkira
      @campkira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      they know the concpet is hard to understand.,.,,,

    • @whutwhut2434
      @whutwhut2434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and the old FOMO

    • @waltercomunello121
      @waltercomunello121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      looks like you have to know how to lie in order to start something. (I'm working on this so take it with a grain of salt.)

  • @frozenglade6266
    @frozenglade6266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    "First they think you're crazy, then they fight you and then they realize you are lying, pretentions and delusional."

    • @Qubicle.
      @Qubicle. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I mean, what she said isn't wrong. that happens to all revolutionaries. problem is, she isn't one.

    • @robbes7rh
      @robbes7rh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Qanons say shit like that. I think she privately attributes the catastrophe to unnamed powerful entities in the industry sabotaging her. Carreyrou being their hired hit man.

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robbes7rh sounds more like SJWs to me talking about the all powerfull evil PATRIARCHY

    • @bdflatlander
      @bdflatlander 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretentious is a very apt description of Holmes’ behavior, including the lowered voice and black turtlenecks.

    • @ferociousgumby
      @ferociousgumby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Then they put you in jail for twenty years for defrauding the public and endangering human lives."

  • @chileplease960
    @chileplease960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    19 y/o girl with crazy eyes, robotic movements and 0 academic degree: I NeEd MiLliOnS tO cHaNgne tHe WorLd!
    INVESTORS: HERE YA GOOO 💚💚💚

    • @wiseguy9202
      @wiseguy9202 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Envy is a sin.

    • @SoyFelipeCTM
      @SoyFelipeCTM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Them investors be simpin over college girls

    • @Tuppoo94
      @Tuppoo94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is why I have no faith in politicians, authorities, or the economy.

    • @mollybolton8425
      @mollybolton8425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      All privileged White women can change the world--they can brighten it with their skin complexion

    • @wiseguy9202
      @wiseguy9202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mollybolton8425 there are plenty of things to pick apart with her. Adding made up racism doesn't further the conversation.

  • @In-N-Out333
    @In-N-Out333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +881

    She didn't sell C++ compilers in high school. She lied about that too. This video is not very well researched.

    • @waiyan9606
      @waiyan9606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Yeah..very hard to believe...

    • @Nemesis816
      @Nemesis816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      gcc anyone? It’s literally free and comes with g++, gdb and other timeless tools...

    • @jack4440
      @jack4440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      That's like selling tap water.

    • @RolandElliottFirstG
      @RolandElliottFirstG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Because it has been copied from another one I have viewed on youtube, just another youtuber trying to bonus on someone elses upload prior.

    • @big_changus4905
      @big_changus4905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@RolandElliottFirstG coldfusion

  • @fineway7053
    @fineway7053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +565

    Theranos, Nikola, and WeWork. The MVPs of CEOs who ran a business without a MVP.

  • @a.a.g.h.1679
    @a.a.g.h.1679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +869

    Theranos sounds like a Greek god of treachery tbh

    • @slidebean
      @slidebean  3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      😅

    • @TheGeorgegenesis
      @TheGeorgegenesis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Close, Thanatos is actually the god of death in Greek mythology.

    • @mustang60348
      @mustang60348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Isn't Theranos just THANOS with HER inserted in the middle?

    • @malikfaisal416
      @malikfaisal416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheGeorgegenesis that's what I thought

    • @kwakekamdivasi591
      @kwakekamdivasi591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Therapy+diagnosis

  • @Mattfromthepast
    @Mattfromthepast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    The first time I heard about this thing I called BS on it because of what I knew from high school science and people said I was an idiot because clearly I didn't know what she did, well look how that turned out.
    If something sounds too good to be true it normally is.
    This has to be the biggest case of "The emperor has no clothes" I have ever seen.

    • @PungiFungi
      @PungiFungi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LOL.I hope you reminded those people who said you were an idiot on who turned out to be right,.

    • @umazajacker8182
      @umazajacker8182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Zangief The Red You are wise and experienced, I see. Very insightful

    • @davidtrindle6473
      @davidtrindle6473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, I believe that would be Trump

    • @YourMajesty143
      @YourMajesty143 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Advances in microfluidics (systems that process very small amounts of liquid for testing) have made it possible to run multiple diagnostic tests on a few drops of blood, but just not as many as Theranos had promised. In fact, at the laboratory I used to work at, a drop of blood can be fractionated to give results for up to 14 multiple conditions, however it's not to the extent that she was promising which were 2 hundred. It might be possible in the far future and maybe for a quarter amount of the conditions she promised, so it wasn't hard to presume that with the advancements of nanotechnology, we could begin to diagnose with greater accuracy and less fluid. The problem is this technology is still far off in development, but it's not a case of high school biology claiming it to be impossible, but rather a lack of the resources and equipment needed to obtain accuracy. But even then, a fancy lab test doesn't exactly mean it improves health, it's simply a measurement of your health in its current state. So I'm not sure how revolutionary it would've been even if it did work. Bloodwork is no ultrasound or ct-scan.

  • @richardt1792
    @richardt1792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As a patient who occasionally get blood drawn, I never understood the need to reduce the amount of blood drawn. One vial, two vials, once you've stuck the needle in me, take what you need.

    • @camillabrandao_ads
      @camillabrandao_ads 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It’s Silicon Valley’s habit of fixing problems that don’t exist, like the juicero

    • @IStMl
      @IStMl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@camillabrandao_ads the problem does exist tho

  • @Keymaster2022
    @Keymaster2022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +404

    At least she didn't LOOK completely insane.
    ... Oh wait.

    • @userunknown4739
      @userunknown4739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mechuratejano9404 no one's ready this long assignment

    • @McVaio
      @McVaio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      How she walks through the hallway with that turtle neck... pathetic. It looks so forced and fake.

    • @colliric
      @colliric 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@McVaio She looks exactly like Chelsea Clinton..... Hmmmm I wonder why???

    • @laststeelbender734
      @laststeelbender734 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ayy nice cat👍

    • @KabbalahSherry
      @KabbalahSherry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@colliric - You wonder WHY she looks like Chelsea Clinton?! 🤦🏻‍♀️🥴🤣 WTF?! Hahaha...
      Why, are you afraid there's some nefarious left-leaning plot to hide the fact that Elizabeth is actually Chelsea's twin, and that the Clintons have hidden her away all these years, and... OMG I can't finish. 🤭😆 LMAOO What a weird thing to ask though, seriously.

  • @FrankGutowski-ls8jt
    @FrankGutowski-ls8jt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Wrong. Robertson was her mentor, enabler, and first board member. Later he was a $500K/Yr consultant. He never told her not to pursue starting Theranos.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he like to get paid and he know it won't matter... as long someone will do them.. a foolish 19 teenger is just perfect...concept is fine but the reason why it had problem if it just not possible.. billion of dollar spend.. we look at cov19 vaccine same.... it would cover the last year version not the new 2021 one..

  • @omoba3000
    @omoba3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +475

    She has damn crazy eyes yo!

    • @arkadiusztrzesniewski4237
      @arkadiusztrzesniewski4237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      To be honest she looks like some advanced female cyborg sent here from dystopian future.

    • @coyotelong4349
      @coyotelong4349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      👁👁

    • @khein2204
      @khein2204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      it looks like mark zuckerberg's eyes!!!
      is she is his sister or what?

    • @morishimaharuka8754
      @morishimaharuka8754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      imagine the zuc

    • @hihowareyou6629
      @hihowareyou6629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Dude im telling you they make these people in a lab..

  • @danemack
    @danemack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    NIKOLA (Tervor Milton) seems to have been very inspired by this story.

    • @Allin7days
      @Allin7days 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well, hydrogen fueled car is real at least. The rest is execution.

    • @999124999
      @999124999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      CEO OF PUSHING TRUCKS DOWN A HILL

    • @SS-np4og
      @SS-np4og 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@999124999 😂 love it

    • @charliechavez1857
      @charliechavez1857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Someone lost money on NKLA stock

    • @cragerzz
      @cragerzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Allin7days 😬 nooooooooo

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +504

    “Be careful when a naked person offers you a shirt.”

    • @DrCash7
      @DrCash7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      why

    • @cesao__
      @cesao__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why??

    • @emperorza5777
      @emperorza5777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Because they’re not using it themselves.

    • @bluedaylight1243
      @bluedaylight1243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@emperorza5777 its pretty simple why a lot dont understand lmao

    • @caanshumantadavi
      @caanshumantadavi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why would someone care about shirt at that moment?

  • @salvador1683
    @salvador1683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    Why does she looks at the start a bit like mark zuckerberg !?!?!?!?!?!?

    • @houseofvenusMD
      @houseofvenusMD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Because he’s also a sociopath 🤣😂

    • @EckosamaGhostTsushima
      @EckosamaGhostTsushima 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@houseofvenusMD honestly for real lol

    • @17pradeepjena55
      @17pradeepjena55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And dresses like Steve Jobs

    • @migueldomingos4570
      @migueldomingos4570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      at least facebook made something useful and didnt mislead investors

    • @17pradeepjena55
      @17pradeepjena55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@migueldomingos4570 True tho 😂😂😂😂
      Stsve's name has become a synonym for REVOLUTIONARY.
      ELON MUSK: THE NEXT STEVE JOBS?
      ELIZABETH HOLMES: FEMALE STEVE JOBS?
      😂😂😂😂😂
      Huge respect for STEVE JOBS.

  • @Sholowastaken
    @Sholowastaken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    This vid: 19 minutes ago
    Comment section: 49 minutes ago
    What...

    • @Sholowastaken
      @Sholowastaken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Yasuke ϟ ah thats explain why

  • @dawidvanstraaten
    @dawidvanstraaten 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    When someone’s story sounds too good to be true, it probably is

    • @johnm866
      @johnm866 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like Elon Musk???

    • @csanton3946
      @csanton3946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If The Theranos scandal have been unfolded 2 years later, im pretty sure Matsayoshi Son of Softbank would have poured tens of billions of money on that company

    • @wiseguy9202
      @wiseguy9202 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course, in hindsight...

    • @SmithCommaBenjamin
      @SmithCommaBenjamin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you notice, 99% of investors didn't take this woman seriously for the obvious reasons. You'll also notice NONE of the investors had a medical background what-so-ever.

    • @lpr5269
      @lpr5269 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well the premise itself wasn't so bad. You can do specific tests on drops of blood. But she seemed to be trying to convince people that she was going to totally replace drawing of venus blood which was a pipe dream.

  • @rezarfntri1895
    @rezarfntri1895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Never trusts a company that sounds like Thanos

  • @flashjazz7800
    @flashjazz7800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    She didn't do her research, all she did, was sell an idea and hide the fraud. But in her case, she hooked them all and put many lives at risk for her fraud. JAIL!

  • @ludantothereddalmatian9349
    @ludantothereddalmatian9349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Mom, can we have Steve Jobs?
    We have Steve Jobs at home
    The Steve Jobs at home:

    • @hilal_younus
      @hilal_younus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More like :
      Me : Can I be the next Mark Zuckerberg /Steve Jobs?
      Mom : we already have one at home
      The next Zuckerberg /Steve Jobs at home :

    • @user-ei8dh5nr1s
      @user-ei8dh5nr1s 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂

    • @deptusmechanikus7362
      @deptusmechanikus7362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steve Jobs at home: 👁👄👁

  • @Ardakapalasan
    @Ardakapalasan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    "Theranosis": a condition characterized by an incapacity to tell the truth and blink

  • @ivytao2453
    @ivytao2453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Her creepy, evil eyes make this seem like a pandemic movie or smth.

  • @KanishQQuotes
    @KanishQQuotes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Daughter of former Enron employee.
    Enough said

    • @wiseguy9202
      @wiseguy9202 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does that mean? There were thousands of honest middleclass Enron employees trying to eek out a decent living for their families. What about them?

    • @ArtfulDodger566
      @ArtfulDodger566 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scamming runs in her blood

    • @wiseguy9202
      @wiseguy9202 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArtfulDodger566 all employees at Enron were scammers?

    • @StimkySkunko
      @StimkySkunko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Incorrect. Her father was not just an employee, but one of the top executives at Enron, specifically a vice-president. One of these people that brought the company down with treachery and fraud.

    • @wiseguy9202
      @wiseguy9202 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StimkySkunko you sure he had something to do with the scam? I bet the time the scam took place and the dates he worked there don't line up. But I'm sure you have some inside info.

  • @leslieitasaiah-asher1880
    @leslieitasaiah-asher1880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Oh, I got to see this one

  • @omarel3648
    @omarel3648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    She looks like a female ZUCC

  • @elijahbey3366
    @elijahbey3366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Believe it or not, Holmes recently started another company called "Theranus", a combination of the words "therapy" and "anus." True story.

    • @thereisnosanctuary6184
      @thereisnosanctuary6184 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No way

    • @ellenorbjornsdottir1166
      @ellenorbjornsdottir1166 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gull & Bull?

    • @bdflatlander
      @bdflatlander 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL.
      Is she going to invent a machine that performs proctology exams?
      That I’d like to see!

    • @thejils1669
      @thejils1669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What an "Ignoranus"...my hybrid word to describe someone that is both ignorant AND an asshole at the same time...

    • @sciencemanguy
      @sciencemanguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 A kitboga fan I see!

  • @TheDoggyOnTheWall
    @TheDoggyOnTheWall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I come across so many of this type. They are super smooth extraverts and when they get caught out, they just move to the next company to continue the process. They always brag about being altruistic (they know what you want to hear) but their actions always shows the opposite.

  • @KangJangkrik
    @KangJangkrik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Almost happened to my former startup. I stopped it after every researches result no chance of products to work. So, research first before executing is really important.

    • @EckosamaGhostTsushima
      @EckosamaGhostTsushima 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      waht was the start up for?

    • @KangJangkrik
      @KangJangkrik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@EckosamaGhostTsushima Something related to customizable product. However, the machine is too slow for now. It requires days to finish 5x5x5cm cube. Not ideal for mass demand.

    • @EckosamaGhostTsushima
      @EckosamaGhostTsushima 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KangJangkrik thats horrible! Shouldnt there have been researchers on the team that can do that before it became a start up. Thats extremely slow

    • @NyanyiC
      @NyanyiC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes, i wish more startups and developers would do more research before releasing products especially in healthcare

    • @EckosamaGhostTsushima
      @EckosamaGhostTsushima 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NyanyiC what other startups? theranos is pretty insane in doing that, usually ppl are more careful. im interested in knowing.

  • @moribundmurdoch
    @moribundmurdoch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It would be a major twist if she ended up as a chaotic good character instead of the seemingly more likely chaotic evil/neutral character.

  • @IVEXUS
    @IVEXUS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is on its head. The perspective, how to succeed with investors without a sociopath in your team, is closer to reality. If you worked in just a few startups, you'll know what I mean.

  • @rishavbadola7357
    @rishavbadola7357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I don’t know how investors could be so stupid. When i read about this in an article a few years ago as a 14 y/o I knew it was impossible to make such a machine

    • @maam-yj8ph
      @maam-yj8ph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Most people, including apparently former U.S. Secretaries of State, are scientifically illiterate. They speak in scientific terms but have no actual idea what they signify or how to apply them.

    • @mustang60348
      @mustang60348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's called greed, IF this had worked it would have been worth TRILLIONS.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wonder if it has to do with: 1) being one of the most hyped thing about POSITIVE technological progress (akin to flying cars) and 2) potentially becoming a very big money maker.
      I can see the appeal to an average Joe and an investor. We were promised a Great Big Beautiful Tommorow 70 years ago with flying cars and free energy and man not needing to work anymore and ended up in a future that is full of poverty, misery, and no flying cars in sight. Theranos represent a light to that dark future, a lone flame shining on a once promising future gone awry...

    • @crystalball020
      @crystalball020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@maam-yj8ph this is why America is falling, its run by lawyers and billionairs, not scientists and engineers

    • @RichardServello
      @RichardServello 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The funny part is...if she build a process that was more efficient and less error prone should could have made an actual company with a real product and not been arrested for fraud!

  • @juuuu0
    @juuuu0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I never get tired of watching videos about this

    • @martindebrois1472
      @martindebrois1472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah this one is pretty good commentary.
      She is *such* a loser! ... Lol

    • @StevenHunterPangians1
      @StevenHunterPangians1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you think she will be found guilty and see any time in prison?

  • @gabrielvpy
    @gabrielvpy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Finally! I've been waiting for this episode since you guys launched company forensics.

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    “Half of the people lie with their lips; the other half with their tears”
    --Nassim Nicholas Taleb

    • @88Xlmk
      @88Xlmk 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But some fall in both groups.

    • @landrat5217
      @landrat5217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some also lie in their tweets (and ban you afterwards).

    • @bellezavudd
      @bellezavudd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Before Holmes even speaks you can see the crazy in her eyes.

  • @rogernevez5187
    @rogernevez5187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    *Theranos: when a sociopath convinces investors*
    Which CEO is not a sociopath ???

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Milton Hershey, of Hershey's Chocolate. He actually was illiterate when he hit it big with chocolate and was a good guy compared to his contemporaries...

    • @rogernevez5187
      @rogernevez5187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 alive?

    • @robbes7rh
      @robbes7rh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not all companies are startups that seek venture capital. And clearly not all CEOs are sociopaths. Theranos story is an aberration.

    • @rogernevez5187
      @rogernevez5187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robbes7rh
      > "clearly not all CEOs are sociopaths."
      Sure. Mind to post one?

    • @robbes7rh
      @robbes7rh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rogernevez5187 -- John Chambers, Cisco Systems, Inc.

  • @caongoctunglam
    @caongoctunglam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I saw her on video, I thought she was possessed by some kind of supernatural force

  • @bonsuadjei-arthur2091
    @bonsuadjei-arthur2091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Don't stop, learning so much from the series!

    • @slidebean
      @slidebean  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad to read that!

  • @brucewayne6467
    @brucewayne6467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    her idea is way ahead of its time to the point where there's no technology ahead enough to help this nutcase succeed.

    • @TheLordexilius
      @TheLordexilius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But she did not have an idea really, anymore than the desire to fly to Alpha Centuari is an idea. Its the means to achieve it that matters, and Theranos was unable to publish no research that could pass peer-review.
      The reason competitors did not go into this area was because they had actual experience handling tests and knew it couldnt be done. And they were right.

    • @shurik121
      @shurik121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TheLordexilius That is a great analogy! Her idea wasn't feasible with the technology we have today. To implement it, she'd have to do decades of medical and engineering research, which she couldn't do because she was a college dropout, and didn't allow enough time for actual professionals to do because she wanted a product.
      When she came with her idea of a patch that would test and deliver the drugs, she was actually told by a Stanford professor she worked for that it's impossible. This did not stop her. Any lab technician with an experience in blood tests could tell her that using one drop of blood from a finger cannot give results for hundreds of tests she intended to do. She just didn't listen to anyone.

    • @robbes7rh
      @robbes7rh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shurik121 -- she was working with a fantasy inspired by the way medicine is practiced in the original Star Trek series. Star date 24th century?

  • @felipeiglesias
    @felipeiglesias 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve seen a lot of videos about this case but this is one of the most on point. Cool stuff! 🤘

  • @jkeister
    @jkeister 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You to a very nice job of encapsulating this complex story into a succinct video congratulations I’ve read several books on the subject nice work.

  • @tokiomitohsaka7770
    @tokiomitohsaka7770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Her eyes look a bit like Mark Zukerburg’s. Seeing her picture immediately made me put her in a “do not trust” list.

  • @KanishQQuotes
    @KanishQQuotes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Fake deep voice, even that fell of mid interviews
    7:00

  • @minkymott
    @minkymott 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thanks for the update. I can't find anything new.

  • @rocklife1802
    @rocklife1802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you really make brilliant 😎 video content, with matching background sound according situations

  • @leobernardo9175
    @leobernardo9175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Theranos: "I am Inevitable"
    Suspicious Doctors, Regulators, and Department of Justice: "And I am ... "

    • @chcarroll5164
      @chcarroll5164 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just image the chutzpah she had to show to get it as far as she did.

  • @kidigus
    @kidigus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    She did not go all day without coffee. In the book "Bad Blood", it is mentioned that she ate chocolate covered coffee beans all day.

    • @GrandCorsair
      @GrandCorsair 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't know that was even a thing.

  • @niranjanneeru6489
    @niranjanneeru6489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the 3rd time i have seen the video about Theranos and you guys had given a better overview then the other long versions I have seen love your work 😍

    • @sikhulilekhoza
      @sikhulilekhoza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cold Fusion gave a more detailed analysis. A lot was glossed over in this video but it's understandable considering the length.

  • @Waterman42069
    @Waterman42069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Like watching American Greed without all the filler.

  • @benjaminitiotio
    @benjaminitiotio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Slidebean: How did one person fool the entire world.
    Me: I was not among.

  • @TheSushiandme
    @TheSushiandme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love watching Theranos. So inspiring. The upper class can do anything. Us poor folks... just have to work harder

  • @siixsiix3903
    @siixsiix3903 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great video. Well done...also the content is so interesting, I've been following this story& it's so crazy, smh. I wish my videos were as professional looking💚🤗

  • @Kawiboy
    @Kawiboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed that 👍 .. Appreciate ya 😉

  • @audun2498
    @audun2498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    She sold C++ compilers? What?

    • @McVaio
      @McVaio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably another one of her silly lies.

    • @deptusmechanikus7362
      @deptusmechanikus7362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      _Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies_

  • @GoldSkye
    @GoldSkye 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The power of the right connections and a little charisma.

    • @yoshit9819
      @yoshit9819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You nailed it

  • @rajcan2008
    @rajcan2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video, well laid out!

  • @patrickprakash8
    @patrickprakash8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought i zoned in your video for an hour!. Great video and Great presentation!

  • @stephendenagy3396
    @stephendenagy3396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a physician, I had been telling friends wanting to invest that this methodology was just nuts. Told them to run away. Big differences between venous blood and capillary blood. Big. Especially electrolytes and clotting factors. Even if the tech worked, results would of necessity different from other methods. So why did it go so far? That would have been a better focus of your documentary. The willingness to be deceived is every bit as important as her willingness TO deceive. The root problem is greed. The next big thing. All share the blame, completely. Because, again, there are reasons medical tests work the way they do, and competent physicians could have and should have known. Fortunately, some acted.

  • @chetanshet10
    @chetanshet10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    It would have been great, if she had delivered, what she promised about, during the Covid-19 time, it may have helped a lot.

    • @Envengerx
      @Envengerx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Its physically impossible, check thundef00ts video on why.

    • @SherryLinZhang
      @SherryLinZhang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Envengerx i love thunderf00t's debunking videos, which video does he talk about theranos?

    • @Envengerx
      @Envengerx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bkkz6769 smart sure, but at manipulating others.
      Just check coldfusion or thundef00ts videos.

    • @EckosamaGhostTsushima
      @EckosamaGhostTsushima 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bkkz6769 no she was pretty evil, if you watch other videos you will see. she is smart though, she learned chinese really fast. but she did terrible things.

    • @babsbarry7042
      @babsbarry7042 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bkkz6769 Ogbeni sdfu! Want to know a sociopath? Blame everyone but yourself.

  • @mayurbhor2231
    @mayurbhor2231 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was waiting for this

  • @nadirkhan2250
    @nadirkhan2250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have seen a dozen videos on Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos but this is the first one that covers Elizabeth's backstory properly. Well done

  • @Rafi88
    @Rafi88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Just happy to know Betsy Devos lost $100M. Made my day.

    • @mrsx7944
      @mrsx7944 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?

  • @varizza
    @varizza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your red t-shirt is so fitting for this video

  • @Dar1234567ren
    @Dar1234567ren ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos 👍😊

  • @Kmancanada
    @Kmancanada 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was excellent. Thank you.

  • @Waponzi
    @Waponzi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There’s a more detailed video about this on cold fusion

  • @aethermax4695
    @aethermax4695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I literally wished Slidebean talked about this just days ago and this now its come true lol.

  • @MrBell-iq3sm
    @MrBell-iq3sm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get the impression she had opportunities and potential most others can only dream off but then squandered it all by taking the easy way out in pursuit of easy money.

  • @eveofneverland2363
    @eveofneverland2363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve already seen so many videos on theranos but it’s TIME TO WATCH ANOTHER ONE

  • @andersdenkend
    @andersdenkend 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dang, her gaze is EMPTY.

  • @joel2628
    @joel2628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think you need to read Bad Blood written by John Carryrou. Excellent book and intricately researched.

  • @donovankriasol
    @donovankriasol 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exelente forensics como siempre. GRACIAS.

  • @iFrancisDC
    @iFrancisDC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Topnotch content! Keep it up 💪

    • @slidebean
      @slidebean  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Francis!

  • @jjww30
    @jjww30 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She didn’t reduce anything to practice in that first patent. You could literally file that in days if you wanted to.
    That should have been the first red flag.

  • @HowItHappened
    @HowItHappened 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Really cool video. You made some great points that we left out in our Theranos video.
    Feel free to check it out if you'd like a different perspective on the Theranos scandal!

    • @omargonzales3
      @omargonzales3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why do you use the same title cards /thumbnails like like this channel ?

    • @HowItHappened
      @HowItHappened 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean exactly?

  • @Apexzy
    @Apexzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content and quality. Hello to Nikola.😥😙

  • @peggymwanza4000
    @peggymwanza4000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yaaaaay you finally did Theranos. Thank you Caya🤗🤗🤗

  • @HashemElGarhy
    @HashemElGarhy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    one doesn't become a "self-made billionaire" by taking other people's money as an investment in their idea. The facade of venture capital and culture of "investment" is one big lie that we were sold on.

    • @McVaio
      @McVaio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it was said based on the valuation of Theranos as a company, and the amount of shares of the company that she had in her possession.

  • @zinussan50
    @zinussan50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    MCU universe - Thanos
    Our universe - Theranos

  • @elquixote6195
    @elquixote6195 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You, simply excellent........The other story are the other "professors" at Stanford, and her relationship with Balwani.

  • @codygreyeyes1610
    @codygreyeyes1610 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting content

  • @parabellum1002
    @parabellum1002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I actually kind of feel bad for her. She probably really thought she could do it, fake it until you make it. Lots of people have done it, just not in health care.

  • @pivotresearchfoundation
    @pivotresearchfoundation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    If you like this check out Cold Fusions video. He goes into some depth and has some great videos

  • @Al_NERi
    @Al_NERi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Theranos' pitch was that self administered finger sticks were significantly less scary and painful than conventional syringe draws. I've had both and it's the self finger sticks that make me more apprehensive. I guess it's a subjective, personal thing.

    • @danielf.7151
      @danielf.7151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keep in mind that fingers have a lot of nerve endings. So it might not be 100% subjective.

  • @mellowords
    @mellowords 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    About to watch this bc I love this story, but I feel pretty sure there's nothing left to say after the extensive coverage on youtube already

  • @rahulkumarsingh4021
    @rahulkumarsingh4021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Fake steev jobs 😂😂😂🤣🤣

  • @ronque23
    @ronque23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Took you long enough to cover the deep talker, Caya! 😂

    • @slidebean
      @slidebean  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, we finally did it :)

  • @805kill3R
    @805kill3R 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The title alone was enough for me.... gotta tune in now 👀

  • @TheEPICGAMINGS
    @TheEPICGAMINGS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To be fair if you're a veteran investor and you didn't do you're research on her and her company thoroughly I think it's time to throw in the towel

  • @miniko_artsy
    @miniko_artsy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me: “Mom I want Steve Jobs.”
    Mom: “no we have Steve Jobs at home.”
    Steve Jobs at home:

  • @Hoxgene
    @Hoxgene 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oh Coldfusion

  • @beaulieuc8910
    @beaulieuc8910 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She has got two of the craziest eyes in history, how were people not immediately repelled by her psycho stare?

  • @chaitanyasenapathi5629
    @chaitanyasenapathi5629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Holmes was friends with Tim Daper's daughter and thats how she got that contact.

    • @robbes7rh
      @robbes7rh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were also next door neighbors. Bizarrely, to this day Draper defends her and blames Carreyrou and unnamed entities in the industry for sabotaging Theranos.

    • @dwightstjohn8549
      @dwightstjohn8549 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robbes7rh both of them come from this self fulfilling world as kids where all the adults they know make huge coin, go to country clubs, yachts, and Vail, Colorado for Xmas and don't seem to do any work to get their money. They think as kids this life is "real".

    • @robbes7rh
      @robbes7rh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dwightstjohn8549 -- her patrilineage traces back to a famous surgeon in Cincinnati during the Gilded Age who married an heiress to the Fleischman Yeast fortune, but the wealth had dwindled down the generations to her parents having to work for a living, albeit as working aristocrats. She as a young girl felt a calling to restore the family's stature (according to a neighbor in D.C. whom Elizabeth had sued over a patent dispute), and hence her kingsized ambition. So at age 19, she sees herself changing the field of medicine by running her own company that makes revolutionary blood-testing devices -- but having no experience in medicine or business. Professors at Stanford who told her the ideas she had were not going to work were brushed aside. She thought believing in herself and the vision she had for changing the would carry the whole enterprise forward and the little pesky details of human anatomy, medicine, health technology, and business would magically fall into place and make her history's youngest female billionaire tech entrepreneur/inventor. That's the only thing she wanted. Making health care more accessible and affordable was just an effective pitch. She took the victory laps, received the accolades and awards, set up wellness centers with Walgreens and Safeway -- all for this device that didn't work and was never going to work. There might be some areas in life besides a poker game where it's possible to bluff your way through. Health care technology is not among them. What an incredibly stupid thing to do.

  • @KamranQaderi
    @KamranQaderi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You forgot to talk about Walgreen and the lawsuit afterword.

    • @StefanConstantinDumitrache
      @StefanConstantinDumitrache 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Details?

    • @KamranQaderi
      @KamranQaderi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StefanConstantinDumitrache www.drugchannels.net/2018/06/how-walgreens-got-taken-read-this.html

  • @nerdalotdulac8552
    @nerdalotdulac8552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She didn’t drink coffee. You can’t trust a person who doesn’t drink coffee.

  • @djy4322
    @djy4322 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ioannides has made some important comments and raised concerns about the handling of covid 19...maybe you can make a video about it as well