thats what made my google+ profile....(obviously I am in less than 5 posts category).. but I had never known until this video that they were competing with fb..
but you know what fucks me up, I once deleted my youtube account, but kept my google account. Once i tried putting in a comment (muscle memory) and automatically a youtube account was created without any of my imput, had to delete again actually.
i remember posting my old art in art groups, and thats basically all i used it for- i also got one commission from it so google might've lost half a billion dollars but at least it got me 20
The reason it failed was because it tried to FORCE everyone to join. At the time, I had NO INTEREST in being part of a social network and was on google for email only. So when they tried to force you to have a public feed and make your profile public so randos could find you, it was like they were trying to mandate how people needed to exist online. And then they tried to force you to have one for TH-cam, which again, most people want to be anonymous , it just absolutely killed any participants willing to join. I remember they had "Bob's Army" post to try to fill the comments with Spam to kill Google+. Yeah I remember it as being horrible for people who wanted no part of it.
I always wondered how the hell that happened. That's so annoying having to choose which one every time I login to TH-cam for the first time on a new device
I hated Google+ , My YT Channel was all of the sudden linked to a social media I never asked for. when the only reason I have my TH-cam channel is to AVOID facebook.
Plus suffered from the fact that it didn't have messaging built in. A lot of the social network users at the time loved the fact that they could just message people by name not by email address. The fact that huddle wasn't built in from the start was a critical error.
@@catfan5618I remember clicking hangouts and being presented with an amazing interface that I couldn't identify what it did, and a quick search focused more on what it wanted do do/be and not on functionality, a deeper search did but I didn't want to put the smaller effort I put on Facebook, which I barely used, into a better product.
I had the same issue. I wasn't against Google+, but the fact that my TH-cam account had been transformed into a social media account against my will really rubbed me the wrong way. I'm still using this pre-Google account, that I made a few months before the big purchase.
Orkut was a huge hit in Brazil at the time. We just jumped out Orkut's boat because it was closing its doors. Facebook only became started to become a trend here around 2010, 2011. We started used Orkut around 2004
Same here in India. I remember I created an Orkut account around in 2005. It was a great way to reconnect with childhood friends and long forgotten classmates. And by the end of 2010, and into 2011, everybody was starting to use Facebook!
As an 11 to 14 year old I used Google+ quite regularly over the course of 3 years. There was a really strong presence of different fandoms (anime, Harry Potter, Sherlock etc.) and I remember a few of my friends and I all having hundreds to thousands of followers. I didn't even realize Google Plus wasn't that popular because I had so many friends in gifted programs who had all used Google plus religiously at some point.
And you could probably remove it with a app. But most require root I think. But there is probably a app out there that can allow you to remove it if your still wanting to remove hangouts.
The reasons for Google+'s failure were 1- It forced youtube users to use it (which created a massive Hate base for it) 2- It did not stand out from any other social media network
This app is hands down the most underrated app of all time! It was perfect, and I could share whatever I felt like and I got praised for my art work even but I stopped practising and I forgot to save all my posts before they deleted it. Now it exists only in my memory...
Why would the only copies of your artwork be on Google+? lol I would think that you would still have: #1. the original artwork #2. the pictures you took of the original artwork on your hard disk or phone
I recall an Economist article where advisors to the mega-corps (Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, etc) recommended that each company create faux competition in each others' domain - to avoid anti-trust monopoly busting.
Most kids in my elementary and middle school class used it. It was the cool social media site we would all log onto when we got home. It was like Facebook for kids at that time, we would post those chain mail posts, and reshape stuff from groups. I remember going to hangouts with different people from our mutual friends. It was fun at that time we all connected
hey more google plus friends, yeah i remember the countless comunities and art stuff it had, it was tight knit, instead of twitter or facebook having millions of people there
Orkut was still huge in Brazil and India when they decided to shut it down. By then, people had already migrated to Facebook and had no intention to reupload their pictures and re-add their friends in yet another social network. Social networks are not just the code made by a great team of professionals, but mostly its users; and user migration between social networks are a crazy amount of work for the users.
I remember being active 24/7 in g+ back in 2014, for me thats the most awesome social media i had, the only old shit I remember was there was many trolls there such as snuggly cuddles lmao, that was way back in 2014 when ebola shit is on the news 💀
I miss Google+. It was my favorite social network while it lasted, but I do agree with the part about how some features felt more standalone than fully integrated.
facebook are really vicious and clever they kind of copy and/or buy smaller company to own themself something that already exist, i myself use facebook because... well it's facebook... but i hate that company so much ! SUckerberg is a fking money machine !
I wish you spoke about the G+ and TH-cam merge. Lots of recent TH-cam users were angry to discover they suddenly had their full name on display as default in the comments on TH-cam, and then finding out they suddenly had a G+ profile they didn't want. Old TH-cam users were being pressured to link up with G+, and it was as annoying then being told about TH-cam Premium over ans over
If I was at Google, I'd have suggested slowly transitioning TH-cam into a more social space with a distinct feed and more ways to find videos. You could introduce a chat system into TH-cam easily, I think a lot of TH-cam users would be open to the idea without it being forced upon them, and with owning one of the largest social networks already, Google could've smashed it
@@mysisterisafoodiemy family uses it for a group chat. I also used it in university to collab with group mates when working on group projects. Google docs + hangouts was a natural collab toolset.
I never used it but it's sorta sad how most people hate it because it was specifically forced on people, maybe if Google had tried to naturally grow it instead of forcing it down's people's throats, it would have a better reputation today.
What I really didn't like about Google+ was that it just automatically linked with the other account. Instead of having a new ground were you can first think about what you want to share with others you end up in a situation where stuff is was automatically published in a way. That one identity for everything idea seems like the worst, like how many people are there who actually want that everything of themself is associated with them in every circle of people they know?
@12:13, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it other way around that the facebook was the one giving access to customer info to 3rd parties like their 'apps'? Wasn't that the reason why few years ago Mark Zuckerberg went on congress?
My podcast had some moderate success with Google+. Because there were fewer users, it meant we could stand out more. We could get really niche with subjects too and there would be a group with about 300 people in it. Yeah, that’s small fry. But it added up over time
Orkut was the best social network that ever existed. You could actually socialize with people with similar interests instead of just seeing ads and seeing people you "know" sharing/posting stupid shit.
Hello Caya, I really like your videos and it's the first time ever that I search for (slidebean) content rather than searching by topic, so great job. I have a finally comment, I liked the animated videos more than those which includes lots of inserts
Thanks, Akram! Welcome to our channel! We vary our format depending on the subject. Forensics tends to use more B-roll instead of animations, which we use more on Startups 101 vids :) comment noted, anyway, thanks again!
two things i think why it failed - facebook was way ahead to catch up when it comes to convincing lazy people to switch over - G+ was way complicated for stupid people to use I think G+ was promising i was starting to use it with only my close friends and just using facebook other things. one thing I really hated about google is that time when all my photos on my google photos went public in google image searches
Hi Slidebean, I have to say these videos are getting better and better. The production (esp. the lighting) and your delivery have reached a new level. Keep it up!!!
7:50 - The whole point of social media is publicly, not "circle". A person create a social media account for mainly 2 reasons: #1 - stalking on crush (easy to access someone's voluntarily-given private-information). #2 - impress others with their "lifestyle" (publicly show off) So things must be public.
Thanks for putting this video together. Some feedback though. There were a lot of strange word choices and grammar which really distracted from the video and sometimes changed the meaning of the sentence. There are also a lot of unnatural pauses in the speech. At 3:19, the narrator says "instead of messaging" instead of "instant messaging" like the video shows. It gives the impression that the narrator has never seen the video and/or the script writer gave him something riddled with errors. Again, thanks for putting all the research into this. Here's to improvements in the next video!
Large companies like Google are far more complex then you might realize. The reason they do things may not always be clear and it's not always about the cost up front. The primary objective of Google+ was not to beat Facebook in social, it was to create a social graph across all Google users so they could compete with the 15+ targeting mechanisms that Facebook had on their users. That was the reason Larry Page made it mandatory across all Google services. I imagine Google would have liked to have a successful social platform however they cared far, far more about competing with Facebook on targeted advertising and the social graph created by G+'s universal integration into Google accounts accomplished that and I can assure you that $585 million dollars was chump change to Google to accomplish that goal.
Used to be part of community's in Google+. anime, memes, books, art, food recipes, horror movies, even make my own community, people would share what they found. It was good for some time. Then Rip, oh and some business here and there while scrolling down through public post.
i definitely agree, google + was really nice when you got what is it for, i totally want to separate my friend life/ profesionnal life/ internet life, and google + was great for it. i don't necessary want all my friend/workmate know i watch weird anime stuff, or like aquaponey and unicorn, and google + was great for that ! you could share everything you love without beeing bothered that the entire world know what you like !
i actually liked using G+, i had my little communities there and made friends. It was a great time for my teenage years to have a place to go and post and be so enclosed. So many hating it makes me in turn feel weird since it was a great time for me on there xd
Circles struck me as being as if Google thought the list/custom privacy functionality in Facebook was going to become a much bigger thing. The vulnerability announcements always struck me as weird because it was simultaneously urgent to sunset the service even sooner for vulnerability that was quickly detected and they were sure no one ever exploited?
I personally really enjoyed using Google+, mainly because unlike Facebook and Twitter, it didn't ban me from posting an unpopular opinion, plus all of my friends were on that site. I was actually angry when it separated from TH-cam, mainly because I comment a lot and I want to keep in touch with what I commented, so I loved going to my G+ and see everything. I'm also incredibly sad that it's going to be shut down, since me and my friends use that as our home.
I actually loved Google+, I was able to join groups like anime and games and post things there along with interacting with people. I used the app for 6 years before it shut down. I miss it so much
I grew up using google plus and having daily hangouts with friends where we’d play integrated games. I do miss it but me and my friends moves passed it way before the end.
As it never took off,it was the only site without politics and trolls in a large no. u could talk about anything without any fights,best interaction I ever witnessed on a social site,so in a way it's unpopularity wasn't all bad.
I was part of the 3.7 million active users back in my middle school years lmao. Found some of my first online friends on there, in fact. The only feature that mattered was the communities tab (because the people are here to hang out with other people, not mess around with contact management), and maybe hangouts. I don't think i've ever figured out how to properly use the circles feature tbh... I never even knew about sparks either. I don't think google understood that none of the features really mattered, and none of the users really cared for them. Google+ also was really really slow, even on my laptop at the time... I remember it taking forever to load and the scrolling lagged (photos was even worse... I couldn't even use it for long without it crashing).
A bit of advice to "leaders" - don't keep forcing people into things. This will only backfire. Forcing Google+ accounts onto users of platforms such as TH-cam certainly didn't create friends.
Thanks Slidebean. Here is an insight - Google employees never used Google+ and they were using Facebook. Account Managers connected with us via FB instead of Google+, this is the biggest sign that even their team was not convinced they created something useful.
Google + still works and is maintained for "Google Apps for Business" we use it at the company and I must say it has improved quite a lot. It no longer organizes by Circles (as we already have Google Groups) but by Communities; no more. It's a bit like Reddit mixed with Facebook. It has great privacy tools - and even so, you can still easily share information accross the internal communities and streams. It is a really good product for productivity and even casual entertainment. Facebook actually has a "Facebook for business" and as far as I've heard: its super shitty. Too bad it's gone. The earlier version always felt unfinished and disconnected; but the later versions (prior to its decomissioning) Google + was already something else.
@@slidebean I just received an e-mail from Google saying they're discontinuing Google+ altogether from their corporate platform as well. But they are actually replacing it with a new thing called "Currents" gsuite.google.com/products/currents/ - in case you'd like to check it out.
Well guys, this may have just been topped with the removal of the dislike button for the worst thing youtube has ever done, which is REALLY saying something.
Google had some notable successes in social networking. Orkut was huge in some markets, Google Readwr had a small bit strong and influential community, and even Buzz, for all its woes, was quite active. Not to mention TH-cam. I wonder if they could be more successful by trying to integrate these instead of an all-win bet. Maybe not, forcing YT users to subscribe to Google+ didn't help after all, although it was done clumsly and disrespectully. Anyway, Google has this culture where you have to create new shiny things to grow, so it wouldn't happen anyway.
I put a lot of work into Yahoo 360; it got shut down. Then I put a lot of work into MySpace; it got shut down. That's why I don't put a lot of work into my social media like Google+. Only girls could have lured me to Google+, but I find all the girls on Instagram. Too bad because with more stability, social media would be great online storage for backing things up.
I only used it for one thing - following (and parttaking in) the beta testing of a mobile game I like and still play casually. The layout was actually kind of well-suited to the purpose. The group of a few hundred volunteer test players was easy to moderate (then again, it's not a game that inspires conflict, quite the opposite), all members could post a variety of game-related subjects (in-game progress, glitches, trading, suggestions - I believe that one of the customization features was implemented after a suggestion I made) and the developers could communicate very clearly with us. I honestly preferred it to the Facebook community route another game I play took. Never used the platform for anything else of note, though.
Strangely enough, it was highly popular with fandoms. I knew quite a few cringey teenagers (hello!) who discovered it via TH-cam and would use it like an alternative to other fandom-heavy sites, like Tumblr.
8:36 Get your facts right. Hangouts was **not** "renamed to Google Meet". The Hangouts back then is now called "Hangouts Classic" and is being phased out by Google. Later Google developed two new products, called Hangouts Meet and Hangouts Chat at first, for enterprise (G Suite) customers. They were later renamed Google Meet and Google Chat, and made free for everyone. Meet and Chat are separate products from Hangouts Classic, and Hangouts Classic is still accessible to this day.
I was an early adopter of Google+ I was part of the beta. I loved the site. The circles feature allowed me to have conversations about topics with other like-minded people without inviting unwanted commentary from "friends" with backward ass ideas. I could drop professional contacts into a circle and only post PG rated there while bashing my boss or stupid co-workers to my friends and family. Sparks was promised to be like reddit built into a social media site but never got there. The problem was Facebook was at it's prime, a few years from becoming the laughing stock of racist uncles and raging Karens we know it today. Had Google created Google+ back when Facebook killed the original Myspace it could have been a contender. But it was a few too many years late for that, while a few years too early to capitalize on Facebook's decline. I do like that we now have the ability to log in to a vast array of third-party websites using our google accounts. I have to sign up for a lot fewer websites now.
It was my first social media, and I think shaped who I grew up to be. I got it because I created an email a couple years prior and when I went to make my first TH-cam account, I could connect it to my existing gmail with Google+. How convenient! Gosh, it’s strange in hindsight how quickly it all progressed. The people I met, the things I learned! It was a Wild West, and those who weren’t on it just didn’t get that it was actually pretty active with many disparate communities. Its poor moderation put children, criminals, and geeky fans all into a single space that felt like the closest you could get to the darkweb from a “respectable” setting. You could find anything there. I fell into roleplay groups because at the time I was watching a lot of Gorillaz music videos, so I got some accounts roleplaying as the cartoon band members recommended. As a star struck kid who was just too old for play pretend, I was head over heels for the idea. I was lucky that first group of roleplayers weren’t creeps. That’s not to say I didn’t encounters creeps on there after, but if I were to have fallen for it at all, it would’ve been there at the start. No, instead it launched me into a frontier that put me at the center of my own coming of age story, encountering fandom (finding a community to discuss gravity falls codes as each episode aired), gaining and interest in writing thats leading to a career in filmmaking, and teaching me important social development skills I didn’t get from school. I remember, before the announcement of Google+’s shutdown, there was a meme going around saying to post chimneys on a certain day in May of 2019. When it became clear we would not survive to that date, we the users of the site banded together for one last hurrah and posted chimneys on all sorts of other social media sites. It was glorious.
As annoying as Facebook is at times (self-playing videos anyone?), G+ had some annoyances that discouraged me from using it completely. Every single time I tried to use it, it would direct me to a page telling me to add more people/interests. etc and there was no way to turn that off (even in the Google forums, other had the same problem and Google did nothing to fix it). I was also getting notifications every time I took a picture with my phone (due to the automatic sync I never opted in for)
What happened to Googles bets? I used to find it so exciting to read about the bright future they were building in Mountain View. That stuff is soo gone now?
😭😭😭Caya! Your vids give me chills bro! No homo ❤ You could write a book on your spectacular journey (from your experiences @ Startup Chile to Sabor Studio and finally Slidebean? And if you think that's too much, then get someone to write for you because you're an absolute MONSTA!!🙏And one for business cases such as these, maybe? (not sure about the copyright or if that's allowed but hey)... and if I ever become an influence in an academic institution I'd recommend it; so many people can benefit from your breakdowns on companies, I promise you (entrepreneurs, aspiring VCs, b-school students etc).🙏Anyway, whatever book you decide to write, I'm first-in-line, no cap.
The marketing department miss the mark big time. Before this video i had no idea with google+ was doing, except making the access of GMail more difficult.
Loved this video and totally suscribing! And on Google plus, it actually was the 1st social platform I actually used. I really liked the content, which wasn't selfies or any nonsense, and I also liked that there were more people from many different countries but it's true it was confusing. I never knew what circles was
I really liked Google+ It was great for smaller specific interest groups and clubs. Such as clubs as fans for authors, art chat groups etc. I was in some really fun groups for quick sketching etc.
I worked at Facebook when this was launched. I remember the entire company going into lockdown, scared shit and trying to come up with ways to combat the new looming threat ! Lucky for them it was a shit product that spontaneously combusted on its own !
Google constantly rolls stuff out and then closes it down. I think Google Play Music was the most recent closure. Most of their ideas suck either because the execution is bad (or the idea was unnecessary to begin with), and the only reason TH-cam isn't competed screwed up is because there's no competitor. They're already a monopoly or working their way into it - it's time for somebody to break them up and stop them from unleashing these terrible sites onto the world. 1/25/21, 10:15a
I never used G+ much and i hated it in the beginning. Never figured out what i was supposed to do in the platform, for me it felt like an extension of Gmail. I still have nightmares about the TH-cam and Google+ connection. But a few months before G+ went down i started sharing my blog posts on there and i surprisingly received a lot of attention! After that was sharing any new blog post on my G+ to receive more views and get new readers.
Thank you Slidebean. Your research is always thorough!and as a new entrepreneur, I am always learning from your videos.
Glad it helps! :)
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@@slidebean you missed the bob tank and integration with youtube.
I remember it being like the gym. Everybody signed up, but nobody went there.
Brilliant!
Thank you for watching!
This has to be the top comment 😂
WISH THERE'E A WAY TO TRANSFER FROM FACEBOOK.
I did. I liked it
I remember Google forcing the users that wanted to comment on TH-cam to sign up for Google plus.
thats what made my google+ profile....(obviously I am in less than 5 posts category).. but I had never known until this video that they were competing with fb..
but you know what fucks me up, I once deleted my youtube account, but kept my google account. Once i tried putting in a comment (muscle memory) and automatically a youtube account was created without any of my imput, had to delete again actually.
That's exactly when I decided not to use Google+.
Yeah, that doesn't make people want to use your app. Being forced to sign up against your will. Having everybody hate your app isn't a good start.
And as soon as a good chunk of us go the hang of it, and found it to be in it's own way intuitive, they kill it off
i remember posting my old art in art groups, and thats basically all i used it for- i also got one commission from it so google might've lost half a billion dollars but at least it got me 20
Thank you for your comment! Interesting!
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You can already put on your resumé that you made more profit than google on google +
Will you use it again if such service gets launched again in Google's material design 3?
The reason it failed was because it tried to FORCE everyone to join. At the time, I had NO INTEREST in being part of a social network and was on google for email only. So when they tried to force you to have a public feed and make your profile public so randos could find you, it was like they were trying to mandate how people needed to exist online. And then they tried to force you to have one for TH-cam, which again, most people want to be anonymous , it just absolutely killed any participants willing to join. I remember they had "Bob's Army" post to try to fill the comments with Spam to kill Google+. Yeah I remember it as being horrible for people who wanted no part of it.
Bob's Army won. Don't mess with Bob.
I found out years later that Google+ is the reason I had 2 TH-cam accounts.
I got premium and left the ”public” acc for my friends to use 😂
I always wondered how the hell that happened. That's so annoying having to choose which one every time I login to TH-cam for the first time on a new device
I hated Google+ , My YT Channel was all of the sudden linked to a social media I never asked for.
when the only reason I have my TH-cam channel is to AVOID facebook.
@8:18 that awkward 1 in a million chance where you see your name and account being used as stock footage for a Google video. 😱
Ahahahah
Local celebrity
Do you get royalties?
That’s so cool lol.
I see a TIKTOK account about to blow up!
Plus suffered from the fact that it didn't have messaging built in. A lot of the social network users at the time loved the fact that they could just message people by name not by email address.
The fact that huddle wasn't built in from the start was a critical error.
Thank you for watching!
It had Hangouts integration.
@@catfan5618I remember clicking hangouts and being presented with an amazing interface that I couldn't identify what it did, and a quick search focused more on what it wanted do do/be and not on functionality, a deeper search did but I didn't want to put the smaller effort I put on Facebook, which I barely used, into a better product.
Orkut was HUGE in Brazil. Great SN.
Also in India
What does SN mean
@@ryanexx5250 I guess Social Network.
As a photographer I found Google+ to have a thriving community of positive and resourceful users when compared t other social media. I miss it.
I remember being so turned off by Google's decision to force me using Google+ I don't want to touch it with ten foot pole.
I had the same issue. I wasn't against Google+, but the fact that my TH-cam account had been transformed into a social media account against my will really rubbed me the wrong way.
I'm still using this pre-Google account, that I made a few months before the big purchase.
Orkut was a huge hit in Brazil at the time. We just jumped out Orkut's boat because it was closing its doors. Facebook only became started to become a trend here around 2010, 2011. We started used Orkut around 2004
Same here in India. I remember I created an Orkut account around in 2005. It was a great way to reconnect with childhood friends and long forgotten classmates. And by the end of 2010, and into 2011, everybody was starting to use Facebook!
As an 11 to 14 year old I used Google+ quite regularly over the course of 3 years. There was a really strong presence of different fandoms (anime, Harry Potter, Sherlock etc.) and I remember a few of my friends and I all having hundreds to thousands of followers.
I didn't even realize Google Plus wasn't that popular because I had so many friends in gifted programs who had all used Google plus religiously at some point.
I've had android phones since 2011 and have NEVER used Hangouts. I wish I could delete that shit, it's just taking up space on my internal memory.
Me with 99% of system apps:
And you could probably remove it with a app. But most require root I think. But there is probably a app out there that can allow you to remove it if your still wanting to remove hangouts.
The reasons for Google+'s failure were
1- It forced youtube users to use it (which created a massive Hate base for it)
2- It did not stand out from any other social media network
This app is hands down the most underrated app of all time! It was perfect, and I could share whatever I felt like and I got praised for my art work even but I stopped practising and I forgot to save all my posts before they deleted it. Now it exists only in my memory...
Wait they deleted it ? Shit
Ziyad M yeah, they sent an email about recommending to download everything before the deadline. It’s now impossible to retrieve unfortunately
Rip my guy I just had shitty memes so I didn’t really care
Why would the only copies of your artwork be on Google+? lol
I would think that you would still have:
#1. the original artwork
#2. the pictures you took of the original artwork on your hard disk or phone
*practicing
I recall an Economist article where advisors to the mega-corps (Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, etc) recommended that each company create faux competition in each others' domain - to avoid anti-trust monopoly busting.
I used to like google+ it was fun
Thank you for your comment! Interesting!
I remember hundreds of people posted "we are here because google+ preloaded in our phone" lol
No it was really not tho
Can confirm it was preloaded.
@@casinoroyal93 which phone? I was used samsung grand prime and it preloaded with g+
Most kids in my elementary and middle school class used it. It was the cool social media site we would all log onto when we got home. It was like Facebook for kids at that time, we would post those chain mail posts, and reshape stuff from groups. I remember going to hangouts with different people from our mutual friends. It was fun at that time we all connected
I just discovered your channel. I'm a product manager in London and I think your content rocks. Really appreciated! Thank you!
i actually used google plus, and i really loved it honestly!
yea it was a super good app with a great community and pretty much everyone knew each other, i really miss it
hey more google plus friends, yeah i remember the countless comunities and art stuff it had, it was tight knit, instead of twitter or facebook having millions of people there
I remember there was that 'this is bob and his tank' copy pasta all over youtube comment sections at one point lol
Orkut was still huge in Brazil and India when they decided to shut it down. By then, people had already migrated to Facebook and had no intention to reupload their pictures and re-add their friends in yet another social network.
Social networks are not just the code made by a great team of professionals, but mostly its users; and user migration between social networks are a crazy amount of work for the users.
I remember being active 24/7 in g+ back in 2014, for me thats the most awesome social media i had, the only old shit I remember was there was many trolls there such as snuggly cuddles lmao, that was way back in 2014 when ebola shit is on the news 💀
I miss Google+. It was my favorite social network while it lasted, but I do agree with the part about how some features felt more standalone than fully integrated.
The only use I had used Google+ was to follow an actor I really like since he doesn’t have an official FB, Tumblr, TH-cam, or Twitter account.
Hugh Jackman was the actor that i followed
If I can remember, Facebook also tried to become Google by adding a browsing and email feature.
facebook are really vicious and clever they kind of copy and/or buy smaller company to own themself something that already exist,
i myself use facebook because... well it's facebook... but i hate that company so much !
SUckerberg is a fking money machine !
If you hate Facebook then delete it. I deleted it
I actually liked Google+
Thank you for watching!
True
I had to create a g+ account only to be able to comment on youtube
@@ghostbiker7391 i know right
Same, I miss it. Liked it far more than Twitter.
I got an email talking about this sayings my rights may be affected?? Any one else
@Bigot Sandwich same
@Bigot Sandwich which is all kinds of weird..
Got the email as well
I wish you spoke about the G+ and TH-cam merge. Lots of recent TH-cam users were angry to discover they suddenly had their full name on display as default in the comments on TH-cam, and then finding out they suddenly had a G+ profile they didn't want. Old TH-cam users were being pressured to link up with G+, and it was as annoying then being told about TH-cam Premium over ans over
‘Never took off’
Me and the other half a billion people who fucking latched onto that site would beg to differ
If I was at Google, I'd have suggested slowly transitioning TH-cam into a more social space with a distinct feed and more ways to find videos. You could introduce a chat system into TH-cam easily, I think a lot of TH-cam users would be open to the idea without it being forced upon them, and with owning one of the largest social networks already, Google could've smashed it
The same applies to their messaging services
Thank for watching!
Right!?! Does anybody use google hangouts except for scammers?
@@mysisterisafoodie I use it to chat with my friends. Since Yahoo Messenger went away Hangouts took it's place for me.
@@mysisterisafoodiemy family uses it for a group chat. I also used it in university to collab with group mates when working on group projects. Google docs + hangouts was a natural collab toolset.
I really liked google plus and still miss it.. :(
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@@slidebean have you hired bots for thanking random comments??
Only losers used that pos. You are a loser. lolz
I never used it but it's sorta sad how most people hate it because it was specifically forced on people, maybe if Google had tried to naturally grow it instead of forcing it down's people's throats, it would have a better reputation today.
said no one ever
What I really didn't like about Google+ was that it just automatically linked with the other account. Instead of having a new ground were you can first think about what you want to share with others you end up in a situation where stuff is was automatically published in a way. That one identity for everything idea seems like the worst, like how many people are there who actually want that everything of themself is associated with them in every circle of people they know?
@12:13, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it other way around that the facebook was the one giving access to customer info to 3rd parties like their 'apps'? Wasn't that the reason why few years ago Mark Zuckerberg went on congress?
My podcast had some moderate success with Google+. Because there were fewer users, it meant we could stand out more. We could get really niche with subjects too and there would be a group with about 300 people in it. Yeah, that’s small fry. But it added up over time
Orkut was the best social network that ever existed. You could actually socialize with people with similar interests instead of just seeing ads and seeing people you "know" sharing/posting stupid shit.
Hello Caya, I really like your videos and it's the first time ever that I search for (slidebean) content rather than searching by topic, so great job. I have a finally comment, I liked the animated videos more than those which includes lots of inserts
Thanks, Akram! Welcome to our channel! We vary our format depending on the subject. Forensics tends to use more B-roll instead of animations, which we use more on Startups 101 vids :) comment noted, anyway, thanks again!
two things i think why it failed
- facebook was way ahead to catch up when it comes to convincing lazy people to switch over
- G+ was way complicated for stupid people to use
I think G+ was promising i was starting to use it with only my close friends and just using facebook other things. one thing I really hated about google is that time when all my photos on my google photos went public in google image searches
Hi Slidebean, I have to say these videos are getting better and better.
The production (esp. the lighting) and your delivery have reached a new level.
Keep it up!!!
I hated Google+. TH-cam users were forced to sign up. It screwed up the rating system for comments on TH-cam. I cheered when it shut down.
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And now, they slowly redirect TH-cam to socialize as well..
Hey, I really like the stock videos you used. May I ask which provider you use? thanks
Many companies make big mistakes. Like adding a premiere feature and then using the feature for wrong purpose.
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Thanks Caya good information, can you do a presentation on Google Apple Platform. can Apple still keep user data private with this union?
Thanks, we'll look into it!
Video chat was the only thing I ever used google+ for. I forgot I even used it until that part of the video came up.
7:50 - The whole point of social media is publicly, not "circle". A person create a social media account for mainly 2 reasons:
#1 - stalking on crush (easy to access someone's voluntarily-given private-information).
#2 - impress others with their "lifestyle" (publicly show off)
So things must be public.
Thanks for putting this video together. Some feedback though.
There were a lot of strange word choices and grammar which really distracted from the video and sometimes changed the meaning of the sentence. There are also a lot of unnatural pauses in the speech.
At 3:19, the narrator says "instead of messaging" instead of "instant messaging" like the video shows. It gives the impression that the narrator has never seen the video and/or the script writer gave him something riddled with errors.
Again, thanks for putting all the research into this. Here's to improvements in the next video!
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I'm going to be honest with you man, I didn't even know google + was a social media outside of a youtube feed-thing.
If I remember correctly everyone hated google plus because google basically forced you to make one if you wanted to create a TH-cam channel
I miss it because it was the only social platform i had
Large companies like Google are far more complex then you might realize. The reason they do things may not always be clear and it's not always about the cost up front.
The primary objective of Google+ was not to beat Facebook in social, it was to create a social graph across all Google users so they could compete with the 15+ targeting mechanisms that Facebook had on their users.
That was the reason Larry Page made it mandatory across all Google services. I imagine Google would have liked to have a successful social platform however they cared far, far more about competing with Facebook on targeted advertising and the social graph created by G+'s universal integration into Google accounts accomplished that and I can assure you that $585 million dollars was chump change to Google to accomplish that goal.
I liked the new video style but misserd Caya in the video.
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Used to be part of community's in Google+. anime, memes, books, art, food recipes, horror movies, even make my own community, people would share what they found. It was good for some time.
Then Rip, oh and some business here and there while scrolling down through public post.
Typical Google + days! Thank you for watching!
i definitely agree, google + was really nice when you got what is it for, i totally want to separate my friend life/ profesionnal life/ internet life, and google + was great for it.
i don't necessary want all my friend/workmate know i watch weird anime stuff, or like aquaponey and unicorn, and google + was great for that ! you could share everything you love without beeing bothered that the entire world know what you like !
i actually liked using G+, i had my little communities there and made friends. It was a great time for my teenage years to have a place to go and post and be so enclosed. So many hating it makes me in turn feel weird since it was a great time for me on there xd
Omg same!!! :D
Circles struck me as being as if Google thought the list/custom privacy functionality in Facebook was going to become a much bigger thing.
The vulnerability announcements always struck me as weird because it was simultaneously urgent to sunset the service even sooner for vulnerability that was quickly detected and they were sure no one ever exploited?
I personally really enjoyed using Google+, mainly because unlike Facebook and Twitter, it didn't ban me from posting an unpopular opinion, plus all of my friends were on that site. I was actually angry when it separated from TH-cam, mainly because I comment a lot and I want to keep in touch with what I commented, so I loved going to my G+ and see everything. I'm also incredibly sad that it's going to be shut down, since me and my friends use that as our home.
I actually loved Google+, I was able to join groups like anime and games and post things there along with interacting with people. I used the app for 6 years before it shut down. I miss it so much
I grew up using google plus and having daily hangouts with friends where we’d play integrated games. I do miss it but me and my friends moves passed it way before the end.
As it never took off,it was the only site without politics and trolls in a large no. u could talk about anything without any fights,best interaction I ever witnessed on a social site,so in a way it's unpopularity wasn't all bad.
I was part of the 3.7 million active users back in my middle school years lmao. Found some of my first online friends on there, in fact. The only feature that mattered was the communities tab (because the people are here to hang out with other people, not mess around with contact management), and maybe hangouts. I don't think i've ever figured out how to properly use the circles feature tbh... I never even knew about sparks either. I don't think google understood that none of the features really mattered, and none of the users really cared for them. Google+ also was really really slow, even on my laptop at the time... I remember it taking forever to load and the scrolling lagged (photos was even worse... I couldn't even use it for long without it crashing).
You are doing amazing work. Thank you
Thanks a lot!
A bit of advice to "leaders" - don't keep forcing people into things. This will only backfire. Forcing Google+ accounts onto users of platforms such as TH-cam certainly didn't create friends.
Thanks Slidebean. Here is an insight - Google employees never used Google+ and they were using Facebook. Account Managers connected with us via FB instead of Google+, this is the biggest sign that even their team was not convinced they created something useful.
Yeah, that doesn't bode well..
Google + still works and is maintained for "Google Apps for Business" we use it at the company and I must say it has improved quite a lot. It no longer organizes by Circles (as we already have Google Groups) but by Communities; no more. It's a bit like Reddit mixed with Facebook. It has great privacy tools - and even so, you can still easily share information accross the internal communities and streams. It is a really good product for productivity and even casual entertainment. Facebook actually has a "Facebook for business" and as far as I've heard: its super shitty.
Too bad it's gone. The earlier version always felt unfinished and disconnected; but the later versions (prior to its decomissioning) Google + was already something else.
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@@slidebean I just received an e-mail from Google saying they're discontinuing Google+ altogether from their corporate platform as well. But they are actually replacing it with a new thing called "Currents" gsuite.google.com/products/currents/ - in case you'd like to check it out.
I always feel enlightened watching your videos. Keep doing what you are doing...thumbs up
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Well guys, this may have just been topped with the removal of the dislike button for the worst thing youtube has ever done, which is REALLY saying something.
Awesome video, content and video animation is top notch👌
Glad you think so!
Google had some notable successes in social networking. Orkut was huge in some markets, Google Readwr had a small bit strong and influential community, and even Buzz, for all its woes, was quite active. Not to mention TH-cam. I wonder if they could be more successful by trying to integrate these instead of an all-win bet. Maybe not, forcing YT users to subscribe to Google+ didn't help after all, although it was done clumsly and disrespectully. Anyway, Google has this culture where you have to create new shiny things to grow, so it wouldn't happen anyway.
I always find it funny as hell the Google employees using MacBook with Google stickers on the Apple logos. Lmao
Finally a good video on Google+! Nice!
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I put a lot of work into Yahoo 360; it got shut down. Then I put a lot of work into MySpace; it got shut down. That's why I don't put a lot of work into my social media like Google+. Only girls could have lured me to Google+, but I find all the girls on Instagram. Too bad because with more stability, social media would be great online storage for backing things up.
I have vague memory of me using Google+ years ago, I just didn't realise that it was long gone now? Huh..
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I only used it for one thing - following (and parttaking in) the beta testing of a mobile game I like and still play casually. The layout was actually kind of well-suited to the purpose. The group of a few hundred volunteer test players was easy to moderate (then again, it's not a game that inspires conflict, quite the opposite), all members could post a variety of game-related subjects (in-game progress, glitches, trading, suggestions - I believe that one of the customization features was implemented after a suggestion I made) and the developers could communicate very clearly with us. I honestly preferred it to the Facebook community route another game I play took.
Never used the platform for anything else of note, though.
Strangely enough, it was highly popular with fandoms. I knew quite a few cringey teenagers (hello!) who discovered it via TH-cam and would use it like an alternative to other fandom-heavy sites, like Tumblr.
Google Plus was amazing. Google management failed not necessarily the service.
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It was ahead of it's time. I loved it.
Something like wave (with video added) would be good in these times
Idea noted! Thanks!
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Get your facts right. Hangouts was **not** "renamed to Google Meet". The Hangouts back then is now called "Hangouts Classic" and is being phased out by Google. Later Google developed two new products, called Hangouts Meet and Hangouts Chat at first, for enterprise (G Suite) customers. They were later renamed Google Meet and Google Chat, and made free for everyone. Meet and Chat are separate products from Hangouts Classic, and Hangouts Classic is still accessible to this day.
great video !! still waiting for path social network forensic 😁🙏🙏
Thanks for the idea!
I was an early adopter of Google+ I was part of the beta. I loved the site. The circles feature allowed me to have conversations about topics with other like-minded people without inviting unwanted commentary from "friends" with backward ass ideas. I could drop professional contacts into a circle and only post PG rated there while bashing my boss or stupid co-workers to my friends and family. Sparks was promised to be like reddit built into a social media site but never got there.
The problem was Facebook was at it's prime, a few years from becoming the laughing stock of racist uncles and raging Karens we know it today. Had Google created Google+ back when Facebook killed the original Myspace it could have been a contender. But it was a few too many years late for that, while a few years too early to capitalize on Facebook's decline.
I do like that we now have the ability to log in to a vast array of third-party websites using our google accounts. I have to sign up for a lot fewer websites now.
Thank you for your comment! Interesting!
It was my first social media, and I think shaped who I grew up to be. I got it because I created an email a couple years prior and when I went to make my first TH-cam account, I could connect it to my existing gmail with Google+. How convenient! Gosh, it’s strange in hindsight how quickly it all progressed. The people I met, the things I learned! It was a Wild West, and those who weren’t on it just didn’t get that it was actually pretty active with many disparate communities. Its poor moderation put children, criminals, and geeky fans all into a single space that felt like the closest you could get to the darkweb from a “respectable” setting. You could find anything there. I fell into roleplay groups because at the time I was watching a lot of Gorillaz music videos, so I got some accounts roleplaying as the cartoon band members recommended. As a star struck kid who was just too old for play pretend, I was head over heels for the idea. I was lucky that first group of roleplayers weren’t creeps. That’s not to say I didn’t encounters creeps on there after, but if I were to have fallen for it at all, it would’ve been there at the start. No, instead it launched me into a frontier that put me at the center of my own coming of age story, encountering fandom (finding a community to discuss gravity falls codes as each episode aired), gaining and interest in writing thats leading to a career in filmmaking, and teaching me important social development skills I didn’t get from school. I remember, before the announcement of Google+’s shutdown, there was a meme going around saying to post chimneys on a certain day in May of 2019. When it became clear we would not survive to that date, we the users of the site banded together for one last hurrah and posted chimneys on all sorts of other social media sites. It was glorious.
As annoying as Facebook is at times (self-playing videos anyone?), G+ had some annoyances that discouraged me from using it completely. Every single time I tried to use it, it would direct me to a page telling me to add more people/interests. etc and there was no way to turn that off (even in the Google forums, other had the same problem and Google did nothing to fix it). I was also getting notifications every time I took a picture with my phone (due to the automatic sync I never opted in for)
slidebean:"youtube will never be in slidebean forensics"
tiktok: are u sure about that?
What happened to Googles bets? I used to find it so exciting to read about the bright future they were building in Mountain View. That stuff is soo gone now?
🤔will have to look into it
😭😭😭Caya! Your vids give me chills bro! No homo ❤ You could write a book on your spectacular journey (from your experiences @ Startup Chile to Sabor Studio and finally Slidebean? And if you think that's too much, then get someone to write for you because you're an absolute MONSTA!!🙏And one for business cases such as these, maybe? (not sure about the copyright or if that's allowed but hey)... and if I ever become an influence in an academic institution I'd recommend it; so many people can benefit from your breakdowns on companies, I promise you (entrepreneurs, aspiring VCs, b-school students etc).🙏Anyway, whatever book you decide to write, I'm first-in-line, no cap.
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What's the music at the end?
Hi! It's this one: elements.envato.com/es-419/glitchy-tech-corporate-DQ7RUBW
The marketing department miss the mark big time. Before this video i had no idea with google+ was doing, except making the access of GMail more difficult.
Loved this video and totally suscribing!
And on Google plus, it actually was the 1st social platform I actually used. I really liked the content, which wasn't selfies or any nonsense, and I also liked that there were more people from many different countries but it's true it was confusing. I never knew what circles was
I really liked Google+
It was great for smaller specific interest groups and clubs.
Such as clubs as fans for authors, art chat groups etc.
I was in some really fun groups for quick sketching etc.
I worked at Facebook when this was launched. I remember the entire company going into lockdown, scared shit and trying to come up with ways to combat the new looming threat ! Lucky for them it was a shit product that spontaneously combusted on its own !
Thank you for your comment! Interesting!
So mark Zuckerberg was worried about Google ➕?
Make a video on Facebook and jio merger
Noted!
I think you might be an authority on startup investing
Wow! Thank you!
I miss G+ so much 😭 I used it so often
Amazing video guys!!
Thank you!!!
Google constantly rolls stuff out and then closes it down. I think Google Play Music was the most recent closure. Most of their ideas suck either because the execution is bad (or the idea was unnecessary to begin with), and the only reason TH-cam isn't competed screwed up is because there's no competitor. They're already a monopoly or working their way into it - it's time for somebody to break them up and stop them from unleashing these terrible sites onto the world.
1/25/21, 10:15a
I wanted to know this for a long time
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I never used G+ much and i hated it in the beginning. Never figured out what i was supposed to do in the platform, for me it felt like an extension of Gmail. I still have nightmares about the TH-cam and Google+ connection. But a few months before G+ went down i started sharing my blog posts on there and i surprisingly received a lot of attention! After that was sharing any new blog post on my G+ to receive more views and get new readers.
can't wait to see stadia on this
I second this only because the hype around it was extremely short lived.