The Scary Dangers of Working Close to Gigantic Aircraft Jet Engines
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Friday, June 23, 2023, a ground handler at the San Antonio International Airport was sucked into one of the engines of a Delta flight he was working on. May God rest his Soul.
It was reported on his death certificate he did it on purpose.
Suicide, he left a note behind.
It's an note from experience system havent hours.
Ground ed
I worked for GE years ago, we got in a CF6-50 high by-pass turbofan that had sucked in a huge chunk of asphalt. It went right through the engine, very interesting viewing the damage ...
When one considers that those engines must lift a 240 ton aircraft off of the ground and up 31,000' into the air (like an Airbus-300 series) you know how powerful they are, those fan-blades in the engine mean business!
Powerful machines for sure!
That really sucked.🤔
I think this was more about airplane and it’s cargo space then it was about objects being sucked into the engine.
This video is very interesting. He doesn't use many of the industry terms and even showed a picture of them plugging ground power in while talking about fueling the aircraft. Also the end turned into a ramble about on the military.
Easiest thing to remember about aircraft is that the number 1 rule is when engines are running or the beacon lights are on, you stay away. Once the engines are off and spooled down, it is safe to service the aircraft and you can walk infront or behind the engine without harm.
You can’t leak check them without them running and being up close. I do it all the time. It’s THE beacon. I can tell you don’t work around planes.
I love that you narrate, unlike others which you have to read everything fast.
As a fan of airplanes and everything related, I enjoyed the video! I just wanted to add beyond all the ideas to keep birds away at airports I've seen that some places use trained dogs to keep birds away from the runways
*_Former Boeing Everett.... The GE9x high bypass trubofan jet engines used on 777 and 787 are HUGE._*
I have stood inside front cowling of these gigantic engines. The front main fan is 11 feet in diameter. It's wide enough to suck cars and trucks into it's blades. Most of the air flows around turbine core. 10 parts air bypass for every 1 ingested for gas turbine. Most of the trust comes from this bypassed air. They produce over 134,000 pounds of thrust - a world record. Engines are so large, they won't fit inside a standard house. A portion would stick out through the roof.
*_If they can suck trucks off the tarmac they have no problem sucking up people... and that really sucks..._*
I live right next to Paine Field on the Mukilteo side. Did you hear the boom a few nights ago?
@@enndubful Thanks for comment. No I live in Yakima now. My sister in law lives in Mukilteo. What was the source of noise?
When I worked at Boeing, I lived between Everett Mall and Boeing. A nice 5 minute car trip on back roads. Sometimes I had to go to Renton for workshops. That drive was no fun at all.
Ahhh just moved from Washington
Friend’s dad worked for Boeing fabrication
@@lspdfrisawesome8972 Thanks for comment. Do you know which plant your friend's dad worked for?
Hmm not sure. I’m stupid so could you clarify what “plant” means in this case? Pretty sure what you mean just want to make sure. Sorry lol.
This video doesn't address the other main hazard around jet engines----The DISCHARGE out of the back of the engine is just as dangerous as the intake!The blast is strong enough to blow vehicles and people-even tear them apart!I have seen the danger "cones" painted on airliner engines while you board-show the danger zones on the front and back of the engines.
It is more dangerous... Much more dangerous
Got that right
It’s called the exhaust.
@@justing42 It's called thrust in aviation jargon😅
It is not "DISCHARGE". It is called thrust. I am an A & P, I know what I am talking about.
I’ve worked flighline ops on Jets and Propeller aircraft. Jet aircraft don’t worry me to much, but I get very uncomfortable when propellers become invisible once started
As a former navy mechanic on the flight deck of U.S.S. carl vinson. The aircraft I was most afraid of was the E2 Hawkeye. those propellers scared me way more than the jets.
@@jamestravenetti7970 I worked on F-4s and C-130s. Always nervous around prop jobs
Same here i worked ay sjc and you have to remember one engine is still on untill power is plugged in
That might be a problem you should afraid of any engine from a Cessna to 747!!
Those pictures give you a good example of how big is engines really are
Wondering why while you were describing the GE9X engine built primarily for the 777x you were showing a
747-8i, very different aircraft.
Also the C17 is designated the Globemaster lll, not ll.
While baggage is being loaded the engines are never running so no risk of being sucked in by anything.
I was making service calls at navy air force bases. In the hanger they had a sign that said "Prevent FOD". I had no idea what that means. I came from a small Texas town and recently graduated from high school. Later I found out that FOD meant Foreign Object Damage.
I had no idea a fighter jet could suck a bolt or rock off the runway into an engine.
I believe it’s Foreign Object Debris
That's just it means. I have seen the air going into a jet engine and as it enters it turns into fog.@@beannosman3855
@@beannosman3855he said it, but you have a good spirit
2:18 - To just think of how they fit that 9X on that 747! that engine by itself could probably get her in the air(no passengers or freight, of course!), fly a course, and land her.
It's kind of ironic that a video such as this drops two weeks after the incident in Montgomery, Alabama.
Yeah, i live in Australia & saw that on the news… nearly made me sick the thought of it 😢
What happened
@@Pap3rPlanesss A worker got ingested into an engine.
Ironically the video was dropped 6 months ago😂😂😂 To be honest, it's the algorithm. People must've been searching for this type of video recently, so TH-cam pushed it up front
I still hope to work on these engines some days.
Just last week, I read about a man who lost his life by being sucked into a jet engine at an airport. How can people be unaware of the danger around these huge engines?
What you going on about ?? you're the 0nly one who views the world thru your eyes & hardly thinks with your very limited mind.
Nobody else thinks (if at all) as you do 🤫😐😶
@@jimmyohara2601 LOL! Nice try, but no dice! You're risible!
Overtired, drowsy while wearing hearing protection can cause safety problems.
Because people are stupid and Dont follow SOP I've been a Ramp Agent for 4 years and I've seen people almost get sucked up I even had to give a guy shit for chocking an Airplane while the engine was still Running
@@danielpetrucci8952 I agree with you! I see things on the tarmac and worse, taxiing out or coming in, that astound me! I sometimes wonder how these people are still in one piece!
On my aircraft carrier you had to be immensely careful that you didn’t get sucked into a fighters intake. They all will get an ill prepared deck hand. Our worse fighter for this was the E-6 intruder. Affectionately called the man eater, for that reason. And it’s why it’s the most dangerous job you can have
There's plenty of most dangerous jobs.
where do the engineers have their training
Its A-6 intruder
A jet engine just pulled in a worker at an airport last week. Sad news...
Unless the engine is running at a very high RPM, No intake accident should occur, while the aircraft is at the gate, loading unloading or fueling. During takeoff and in flight intake incidents can take lace!
Agree. Intake incidents do not happen at low RPM situations like pushback. Serious accidents need the engines running at fairly high throttle settings.
It happens. Not long ago a guy was suck into an engine.
12:38 I work at Hill. I’ve worked on 17-5251, and the most memorable thing that happened recently on 5251, is one of our beloved female pilots decided it’d be a great idea to take off in FULL AFTERBURNER with the parking break on. iirc, there were 7 layers of cord showing on the tires and we had to change both tires, put up the tail hook and do a break function test. The aircraft had to be towed from the runway to its spot, pilot gets out and blames the aircraft for not functioning properly (to put in simple terms) but data showed it was 100% pilot error. Other than that, lovely aircraft!
Thats why the Boeing 727, MD-80s and Boeing 717 is the safest plane for ramp agent to work around, because the engine is mounted on the upper rear instead on the whings.
Former Air Force POL guy here.Loved the video.
Having served in the US Navy f-18 squadron , When deployed on a carrier the E-2 Hawkeye always had my attention and more so at night , You could hear those huge props spinning but couldnt see them , Head on a swivel !
Not to mention while on the flight deck, you have ear muffs on and can barely hear if engines are running and props turning. Same goes with people walking into tail rotor on helicopter. You think that it can't happen... but it does and is really bad.
@@SJR_Media_Group Roger that !
Thank you for your service 🇺🇸
@@brentj.peterson6070 Was my pleasure your welcome sir !
@@kellywilson8440 Thank you for your service. Former Boeing... I loved time spent working with Navy on F/A-18 Super Hornet in St Louis. It was a nice break from giant passenger planes.
Always greatest respect for Navy. My dad was a WWII Navy vet who served in the Pacific. I was going into Marines to become a pilot at end of Vietnam. War ended before all paperwork approved. Returning pilots had first pick of slots. I went to college and served in other ways.
Flight deck on a carrier is one of most dangerous places on Earth. Planes coming and going in tight time slots. Large crews working in sync with one another. Everyone needs a buddy to watch their six.
I spent time on the Flight Line at Boeing Everett. You had to pass training before getting anywhere close to operational aircraft. Laws of Physics in action. Jet Blast and Turbine Intake Airflow have zero respect for your life. Moving aircraft always have the right away. Don't bother trying to outrun a speeding plane, they can go really fast even on the ground.
Keep up the good work 👏
Arent engine caps with hollow mesh designed strong enough to push the bird off to the sides on impact while not impeding upon intake a standard thing for such engines. You would think that would have been mandatory years ago.
I think that was tried-but it cut down on air flow...
@@avstud09 You see them sometimes on model jet engines, which have a rather high risk of FOD being sucked into the engine. There is definitely a performance hit.
Engines no airflow with zero tolerance
Didn’t knew a big delivery box will be Inside those GE’s.
The c17 is a globe master 3, not a globe master 2. Globemaster 2 was a c124.
It s a globemaster to
@@alainbellemare2168 ahhhh! I see what you did there!!
@@dacvader2 mm
I have never went to sleep watching a plane documentary ......... I started watching this on 1/12/ 23 and now it is 7/10/ 28 ...... what happened ? Don't tell me .......... done enough sleeping ! WOW his ( fuctus ) videos are like Ambien !!!
Same here, really didn’t point out anything but the obvious hazards.
3:40 mentions the largest commercial engine in the world (777x) shows one of the smallest (MD-80) for reference.
ESTOU AQUI EM GOIÂNIA GOIÁS BRAZIL CURTINDO ESSE VÍDEO. PARABÉNS 👏
Very informative. Thanks!
This was just all over the place...I think whoever did this totally lost focus on what they started working on.
A correction. It is the C-17 Globe Master III, not 2.
I work as mechanic at HKG airport and it’s really scary when apu is not working and we have to manually start an engine
Like a model T?😊
It’s part of your job…if you are scared, you need to look for another one
I would love to have a job like this
非常非常感谢您们的提醒和警告❗️
Thank you so much for your reminders and warnings❗--google translation
I wonder why they don't put mesh in front of the engines to stop bird and other things from getting in the engines.
But the bird would still get sucked into it, the mesh would act like a multi slicer sadly. Such is the _enormous_ power of those engines.
Putting some sort of mesh in front of the engine would interfere with the flow of air into the engine causing a reduction in engine thrust. This would get even worse if the airplane was flying through meteorological conditions where icing is likely to occur. If the accumulated ice on the mesh becomes severe enough the flow of air could become so restricted that the engine could shut down completely.
Ok, putting mesh onto the front then shoot a 12 LB bowling ball at it, what would happen? It would punch through it, and if that screen were to fail, you would have bird debri go into the engine as well as the screen itself, causing even more damage then just the bird, also, leaves and grass would plug the screen and cause engine surge or engine flame out
Hard to believe they don’t have mesh grates over these engines, to prevent people from being pulled into them.
It’s because of drag which will use more fuel…imagine swinging a tennis racket with the strings and then swinging it after with the strings removed.
@@andystack7449 drag uses more fuel which, in turn, affects the corporation's monetary bottom line... It's always MONEY 1st SAFETY 2nd...
Впервые вижу двигатель в раскрытом виде всю его начинку и т д кто то придумал такое мощь сколько трубочек датчеков и т д. Алюди которые их обслуживают какая у них ответственность от них зависит наша жизнь в полете мы им доверяем спасибо им за их труд
Я работал в LufthansaTechnic именно обслуживал турбину. Со временем понимаеш там нет ничего сложно. а Miatatnce instruction написана настолько подробно что даже трезвый и умеющий читать автомеханик справится, если конечно умеет читать по английски
@@serhiimelnichuk9251 а английский хотя бы технический учат что бы понимать что перед тобой и что делать
@@serhiimelnichuk9251 спасибо за хороший и трудный труд а еще ответственный
@@user-vv1vd3iw7s увы сейчас труд наоборот не созидательный а деструктивный, помогаем паковать русню в черные пакеты. Хотя... можно сказать помогаем роисянам покупать белые лады!!!!
When I saw the bit with the test cannon firing birds at the windscreen, I was thinking of the old joke about it (the one that ends with "thaw the turkey first").
Airline companies are not interested in creating more speed, otherwise, they would have kept up with "Super Sonic" flights decades ago. And civil aircraft today don't travel any faster than they did back in the 1960's.
No one should be approaching a commercial aircraft if the navigation lights are on. The engine should not be running if they are not. Incredible that the KC 135, developed alongside the Boeing 707 is still in use today, re engined.
And you don’t work around them obviously. The nav lights are on all the time at the airline I work for. The BEACON being on means be alert and approach it with caution, or it is about to push.
@@justing42 Your airline approves approaching the aircraft when Nav lights are on?
@@justing42 Which airline? So I don't inadvertently fly or apply.
I enjoy the pix of the 747 jumbo jet, queen of the sky
Use to work on repairing trucks from o'hare airport, lots of doors and hoods from the trucks get blown off from jet engines exhaust
It all comes down to training!
Talk about putting the square peg in the round hole....
Intresting you are talking about jet intakes, but failed to mention the three deadly jet intake accidents that have recently happened, all three fatal ingestions,, and lets not forget during the gulf War, Petty Officer J Bridges was sucked into the intake of an A6, yet he survived
I like the background music, it’s mixed well and adds some drama 👍
Yeah,you have got to be careful with those things!
Why not put a small slicer in front of the engine so that birds would not reach the engines proper blades? Also why not put metal mesh under the glass ceiling of jet planes? Sorry if my questions are dumb. Just a random non-tech visitor here.
that would hurt, ouch
Don’t have them running,while people are doing loading or maintenance?
Usually they don't, but sometimes they have to. The recent accident where a ramp worker was sucked into a jet engine happened when the airplane's Auxiliary Power Unit (APU) wasn't working. Usually the APU provides electrical power for ground operations at the gate until the airplane can be connected to ground power. Without the APU being available they had to keep one engine running for a short period of time after the airplane got to the gate. Despite being warned about the hazard one ramp worker walked in front of the engine while it was still running and she got sucked in.
مثل هذه المحركات يجب أن تعمل تحت نضام حماية في حال سحب الهواء بنضام ضوي استشعاري في حالات مثل الطيور المهاجره واي جسم اخر ويعطي ذلك الضوء مسافة أمنه بكم متر عندما يستشعر بشئ ينكسر الضوء الي الخارج بالهواء وبطريقة امنه
Workers should move near or around the aircraft engine or propeller with some kind of protection such as a small trolley with screened compartment.
Or just watch what they are doing
Really interesting
Good video
"... proper distance is respected at all times. And care is taken ensure nothing is placed infront of the in take."
The engine is not running during loading/unloading and a safety cone IS placed right infront of the intake.
Other collision are animal relate, there has been deer jet pilot collision even a KC135 struck cattle that stray into a active runway ;)
Name suggestion for the little tiny tank type: The Fosterling.
You’ve adopted that poor orphan! No-one needs to know what happened to its parent.
An aircraft engine will never be running while loading baggage or fuel unless it necessary such as lack of an APU or a ground power unit and usually the engine will be running on the opposite side of the aircraft cargo or baggage loading doors....
The condition of the smaller pipe shown t minute 15.30 are unacceptable. Someone should tell them. Who is responsible for health and safety of equipment there? It’s just not good enough.
Sorry guy , timestamp 13.22 is a C17 Globemaster III not II
Cannot wait for the, hopefully equally interesting, "The Scary Dangers of crossing the road"! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Very best
I am an aircraft engineer who has worked on and tested aircraft engines whilst at idle. Baggage handlers never work near operating engines. Engines are not run whilst fuelling except for one very specific reason. It appears your video is intended to scare. People who get sucked into engines should not be on an airport.
Don't forget the runaway 747 that sucked in a baggage container and ultimately destroyed the engine
@Red Wolf Piping it happens. But fir this person to say baggage handling us dangerous is absolute rubbish used to fuel aircraft, push them back, be on the head set, do maintenance and actually run up and taxi B747 for maintenance. Si I guess I know something about working with aircraft
an excellent video thanks
لماذا لايتم تغطية مقدمة المحرك بشبكة واقية ❤😂🎉😢😮😅
Engaged the viewers cleverly .
Why don't they just put steel grates over the intake so nothing can get sucked in
Grating not granting lol😂
The poor birds would still get sucked into the engine, but be in a _pre-grated_ form 😖
Putting some sort of mesh in front of the engine would interfere with the flow of air into the engine causing a reduction in engine thrust. This would get even worse if the airplane was flying through meteorological conditions where icing is likely to occur. If the accumulated ice on the mesh becomes severe enough the flow of air could become so restricted that the engine could shut down completely.
Because a large bird would punch through it, and then you would have not only the bird debri go into the fan, you would also have the screen go through the fan and cause even more damage downstream in the engine core
How bird damage plane window are it was made up of plexiglass. I would love to know.
Why do so many people complain about EVERYTHING??
He says, complaining...
They don’t
hey guys, you should activate the subtitles, my father watches these videos but he doesn't understand the language, if you activate this function many people will appreciate it. thank you!
Para mí concepto estás turbinas deben llevar una malla en forma cónica para proteger de la succión de la misma .Gracias y saludos desde Nuevo Ocu , Pocri , Los Santos Panama.
Could cause compressor stalls and/or increased drag (less fuel efficiency). That’s why we don’t have them.
Poor traumatized workers rendered hysterical because frightened 24 hours a day, 7 days a week by terror and all ending up in bloody lint after excruciating cries of suffering. ☠
What language did you run Google translator through to create this comment? It makes no sense in English.
What in gods name are you trying to say
Bruh…
Get a different line of work if they are that traumatized...
I think I’m in love
Nice shots of my home airport: Bergstrom.
I don't think anyone says "seven hundred seventy seven" they all say "triple seven" haha! jk Great video! I'm fascinated with jet engines! They're so cool!
Hah! The one with all the sevens!
It’s always triple 7.
I'm a bit more concerned about the handling,transport, and what passengers may find when their pets meet destination
I thought this would should different stuff being sucked into the jet engines - what a bummer
No one In the world can compete with the efficiency of the US military. !!!!!
Our new woke rainbow warriors aim to please
How come when a plane comes in for landing its not pointing down at the front?
A worker willfully feeding a running engine a plastic cone will assure their employabilty will be zero.
Only scary for those who don’t follow the safety rules
Уму не постижимо : железо по небу летает, офигеть такая махина. Двигатели то неск тонн наверно весят
What's happening at 3:11? It looks like a cone is being put in a position to be sucked in? I'm sure that's not the case but can someone enlighten me?
He walked towards the plane to place a protective cone in front of the engine to ensure proper distance is maintained while servicing the aircraft. These cones are mandated for most wing mounted aircraft for most carriers with the thought being that you hit the cone before the aircraft as cones are much cheaper to replace. This guy failed by decided to approach a running engine while the anti collision/beacon lights were on (which indicates the engines are running or about to start).
Hope this helps
@@keenangant982 Yes thanks for that, that makes sense.
@@ac9110 basically, he was lucky it was only the rubber cone that was ingested, as the ground effect is all around the front lip of the intake while at idle thrust
@@keenangant982 nonsense. I am a mechanic and don’t care about cones. It’s to keep the stupid rampers and lab drivers from running in to them
@@justing42 meaning it's to protect the plane. Notice how they aren't in a hanger. That means it probably doesn't have mtn on board. You know, the guys who complain about us rampers and drivers breaking everything when they have no communication skills whatsoever and decide to tell ops they're swapping the plane a few hours after they found out the plane is bad. Or telling everyone they're actively working on the plane when we see them drive off for another few hours.
When the plane is parked at the gate there are around 7-8 vehicles trying to service it within an hour. So us hitting a cone is way better than getting in a pinch and hitting the million dollar aircraft that mtn tries so hard to ignore. You mtn guys love disconnecting everything anyway so please, put them back the way you found it so I don't have to get yelled at for your delusions.
Jet Fuel is just
a fancy name
for Kerosene.
Not the same. Jet fuel is a highly refined kerosene-type fuel. Kerosene is lightly refined. Kerosene is closer to diesel fuel.
เหนื่อยใหมครับ☺
No! 😉
I mean I think to reduce the sucking thing should they put metal net I mean if there got suck it will stay right so other to fix that well male an metal cone with a lot of hole maybe 4 inch hole?
Because the metal net would _pre-grate_ the unfortunate bird - it would still end up sucked into the engine. Just be in tinier pieces. Such is the *power* of those engines.
Putting some sort of netting in front of the engine would interfere with the flow of air into the engine causing a reduction in engine thrust. This would get even worse if the airplane was flying through meteorological conditions where icing is likely to occur. If the accumulated ice on the netting becomes severe enough the flow of air could become so restricted that the engine could shut down completely.
While ground work is being done close to aircraft engines should not be started until unless all the ground work is cleared #
The information about loading baggage, cargo, and fueling the aircraft in proximity to the engines is vague and incomplete. Who writes this stuff?
Aircraft shall never spool up before in pushback! What army/navy does is different ..
I run engines on planes every night…it isn’t a big deal
I work with airplanes I load them for UPS
We ' ve come a long way since the Western Lysander !
That plane with the smile tho
p
😊👍
My kitty escaped from his crate after being dropped at Pearson International.
All aircraft shut down for almost an hour.
Allegedly my kitty cost the airport around 200k.
Priceless.
What a legend
Your kitty _rocks!_ 👍
"gentleman. thaw your chickens."
Jet blast is critical in ramp area !!
ahh yes. the exact video i need to watch as an airport worker
sorry'bout your bad luck sunshine
This video sure jumps around a lot to topics that have nothing to do with operating in proximity to jet engines..
It's true, the jet engine is scary😮