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One thing I really appreciate about Falcomon's redesign is that despite them sharing the same name, they didn't give them the same evo line, like they did with Kudamon. Meaning that OG Falcomon still has a place in the franchise as Valdurmon's Rookie, while Savers Falcomon gets Ravemon.
I wish they had named the Savers one something else, like something referencing an owl because it really doesn't look like a falcon. That and maybe canonize their Perfects as Yatagaramon AND Crowmon, as in, each one gets to keep one of the names.
Ok. My problem with Sistermon Ciel AS A REPLACMENT to Sistermon Noir is she kinda screwed up the counter-themeing with Blanc. With Noir and Blanc, they had a black/white, virus/vaccine, ranged/melee, Predator(Cat)/Prey(Rabbit) scheme going which was suppose to represent the almost literal "angel and devil" ideas for Huckmon's conscience, finding a balance of the opposing ideals. I do however like Ciel as a Neutral entity for the sisters, being a Grey, Data, Omnivore(Mouse) who works more in the background. The only issue is the sword, but it's anime, a sword can be a mid-ranged weapon by firing beams or whatever.
@@oompa1274 At this point, it's literally an in-universe joke that to be in the Saber class in fate, one has to have a sword that shoots beams or does that energy wave slash thing. That's at least 30 to 40ish characters right there.
Sistemon Ciel and Citramon have such fascinating origin stories to me, in the sense that even sensorships can be adopted as completely new digimon by the community and even the creators.
I really don’t get why Sistermon Noir would be controversial in America. I’d imagine the gun loving United States would love a pistol shooting nun. I hope all three Sistermon can appear together more. Back in December the Japanese Twitter account posted an illustration of the sisters going Christmas shopping. Noir and Blanc excited looking at the cake display while Ciel is holding all of the presents looking like this: 😅
No one is offended by Sistermon Noir, Bandai is just full of cowards and just blaming everything on religious people, because religious people are easy to bully and won't fight back. Religious people are of course allowed to dislike Noir if they want, but Bandai should not be caving to anyone. So to me Bandai is 100% to blame here. They're the ones with the power. They can just say "thank you for your opinion, but we're not changing anything, don't like it don't buy it".
I think it's because she had a short skirt and voluptuous, and sexy nuns are a naughty trope? That's all I can think of since there's plenty of religious imagery in digimon that doesn't get censored. Or maybe it's like "3 strikes and you're out", she has sexy, guns, and religious reference so that's too much compared to like Angewoman who is only religious reference and sexy.
Part of the Rapidmon thing that hits for me is the eyes, with Green you can see the head underneath and see the entirety of the eyes, rather than Gold's black void with the eyes peeking out.
On a similar note to this, it might be fun to do a list of digimon whose localized named are better than the original: For me, I'd throw Armadillomon, Raidramon, Gatomon, and the Bearmon for Rookie Kumamon for Spirit change on there (Chakmon just hits the ear badly).
I believe personally that burninggreymon is also a better name change then it original as it connection to ancientgreymon and the similarities between the two designs
@@ironbee75 I honestly dont know why it called dorugreymon as the doru line has nothing to do with any of the greymon line I mean literally it dorimon,dorumon,dorugamon,dorugreymon, and then splits off to either alphamon ,dorugoramon, dexdorugoramon, dexmon none of these are related to greymon at least burninggreymon is related to ancient greymon
@@michaelliggett1622It was a mistranslation. The Japanese name is "Doruguremon", which is pronounced almost exactly the same, so when they released him in the west we got "Dorugreymon".
If you have to do a redesign due to censorship, then you should take the opportunity to be imaginative with it. Citrusmon is a funny and eye-catching design.
Yeah, I was about to comment this. They changed the design so much that giving it a new name would be a no brainer. Call it Strixmon or something like that and we're golden.
The Sistermon one was more of a replacement than a redesign, since all three Sistermon exist at the same time, rather than one taking the place of the other. Also, I think Citrusmon should be made official as well.
I like all three of the Sistermon, but as someone whose favorite animal is cats and favorite colors are black and pink, Ciel definitely sits below the other two for me. And the fact that only Japan gets to have all three is starting to cause some problems. For instance, Ciel was recently introduced to the Japanese version of the card game, meaning Japan has cards for Noir and Ciel, but they both get turned into Ciel cards outside Japan, with some of them having to include text saying that they are also considered Virus types, since the censoring changes their attribute, which can impact gameplay. It's just getting really messy for a franchise that thinks a nun with pistols will offend more people than the demon lords...
I legit love citramon too - and it feels like a great follow up to nanimon's sake being replaced with pop in adventure Imagine if nanimon who drink sake digivolve to bombernanimon - and nanimon who drink pop digivolve to citramon!
I think my favorite redesign is Sistermon Ciel because not only it's a redesign for the sake of ”censorship”, but they also make her as canon Digimon too, as another sister of Noir and Blanc
I really, really can't stress how much I want a dna digivolution between Sistermon Ciel and Sistermon Noir. It should be called "Mothermon" and have a gray nun design with a ff8 gunblade.
Since the "sister" seemingly comes from religious sisterhood as much as, yanno, being actual sisters, you could go even further beyond by calling them something like Marymon. Then Mothermon can be the censorship version lol
Totally agree with sistermon ciel. That's actually one of my favorite episodes of ghost game. It gave us a peek on Jellymon's social life and entrepreneur shenanigans, sistermon ciel in a go cart race to the death, a awesome dangerous atmosphere in general and blacktailmon uber with a rice cooker. Absolutely love it.
Kind of see a progression with Beelzemon, starting with the punk of the Seven Great Demon Lords, entering his redemption arc with Burst Mode, and finally a straight up hero at 2010.
Piedmon had some slight tweaks that I prefer over the original. Namely one of his eyes is missing a pupil. This updated version appeared in Ghost Game.
Another nice video while I wait for my laundry! I agree with your take on Beelzemon, I like the later one but I also like the old one, if 2 kids have one they can have alt looks. Also I was one the ones that didn’t know Falcomon Data wasn’t the OG 😅
I can see your logic with Beelzemon but personally I like the original's more involved design. It just feels kind of stripped back. Variants are a great tool for Bandai to respect traditional lines while also rectifying a lack of visual cohesion. I don't want to imagine a world where the default Wargreymon was a sickly grey. Instead we get two great designs in original and black.
Pretty sure they'd have still hit Machine/Mugendramon being the virus variant's next form. They kind of set it being on the other end in stone with Digimon 2020AD.
It took me quite a bit to learn that the OG Falcomon existed. But I still knew it before Survive came out xD I like the OG Falcomon more tho personally :3 It also gives me Hawkmon vibes xD
I can definitely vibe with all of these choices, although I personally still prefer Sistermon Noir over Ciel (and that despite being someone who usually loves blue colorschemes especially with white, and swords), but the significance of Ciels story definitely should make her a top tier pick on a list like this. I also have to admit, personally, I always forget that Beelzebumon 2010 isn't a variation of Beelzebumon Blast Mode... or rather, in a way I feel like Blast Mode already replaced the original Beelzebumon in most aspects, or at least has basically become part of it, so I don't know if I'd really count Beelzebumon 2010 looking more like Blast Mode as an actual plus-point for it over the regular one. My personal favorit redesign probably has to be Greymon and MetalGreymon 2010 though.
Honestly they should release both Ciel and Noir. Yet the always offended liberal localizers probably wouldn't allow it. Yet knowing the localizers they'll probably create a 4th Sistermon.
What's even funnier about Citramon is that Kirk Thornton voices him similar to how he voices Don Patch in Bobobo-bo bo-bobo, another character who's known for being round and orange, btw.
This might be blashphemous to say, but I prefer the 2010 version of Greymon and Metal Greymon than the original. There is just something about the blue that makes them look better in my opinion. Greymon having an axe tail is just cool and MetalGreymon looks like he is a member of the Crack Team, also I want an x-antibody of him probably rename him to GigaGreymon to differentiate from the other 2 MetalGreymon X.
@@Karn_EX Brill video, i always forget that Blue Metalgreymon was the original and I prefer green rapidmon. Its almost a shame that golden rapidmon doesnt give off that unique mystic digimon feel.
I totally get what you mean about Rapidmon. So much so that I'm still waiting for they to make a non gold version of Magnamon and have it be the true Ultimate for Exveemon. Btw, I had no idea that Ciel was being used as a replacement for Noir in the card game and I'm disappointed by that to no end. I thought they flipped that page after the backlash and that ghost game episode came out. This is just embarrassing at this point.
I'm surprised that your number one pic is the digimon from data squad that got censored though honestly I like it too. There's just something about a digimon that was originally A-bomb and then it turned into a giant tangerine monster for us that just works. Also I'm with you nuns with swords are just straight up hotter lol. Sistermon Ciel's redesign just works and while i have up on Digimon Ghost Game, I will concede that that episode with her was one of my favorites. Maybe it's due to my love of nuns with weapons or maybe it's due to the fact that Japan really likes hot nun girls but I don't know lol. Regardless, great list Karn!
Fusion beelzemon is a great redesign. I appreciate the punk biker aesthetic of the original, but I love the holy knight thing going on with the other one
Love the video as always Karn! Funny how it was about redesigns and you had to re-record lol. All of your picks are spot on for me this time! I have started to care more for og Falcomon though. I saw Kodokugamon the other day and was so confused about why it looked different and was a rookie. Now I know why!
I jus wrote a comment about being impressed that you rerecorded everything and that that takes so much dedicated for any type of project. I then accidently pressed cancel instead of comment and have to rewrite everything X'D!!!!! LOL The struggle is real and I am unable to remember the exact words I used before LOL LOL LOL. WELL, amazing job, I really enjoyed this video! keep it up, Karn!
15:43 Who else spent a minute wondering what the heck they changed on Gundramon, only to see the obvious hole and the smoke later? What I will coin as the Barrel Dragon Effect literally blinded me to the obvious...
When it comes to number 8, I feel like that if you were to use them instead of the OG in tamers it would invalidate the blast mode because it is too close to it. It feels like an excellent halfway point between the two, but there isn’t a good way to fit them all together.
These redesigns are so cool its nice to see them get attention i actually was watching your armor redesigning videos and noticed that Gomamon had literally no Armors besides Urashimamon of which theres still no image of so it be cool to see ot get like a love or friendship armor one of these you could have on based on the Nothosaurus which was both a land and sea creature that would be cool balance between Vikemon and Plesiomon which i think would super i don't seems weird that the rest of the adventure partners has a number of armors but ones like Gomamon and Biyomon and Palmaon really don't have that many
Nah, I totally am in the "Citrimon is awesome" camp. It's a silly censorship change that created a legitimately funny Digimon that totally fits with the series as a whole.
Kudamon 2006 is one of my favorite redesigns. Hey! You should do possible replacements for the Royal Knights! I know Bloomlordmon will be on that list.
Sorry I've been such a ghost in the comments for a while bro. Going thru some shiz so I haven't really had the patience to articulate my opinions or come up with funny comments. But I never miss an upload. You're the man Karn, my weeks wouldn't be complete without the likes of you and digiknow amongst some of my other favorite content creators.
i'm a pretty casual digimon fan. i would say i am more a fan of your videos than a digimon fan haha. but i still play the tcg since the last few months. starting with the jesmon structure. but oh boy i was so hardly confused seeing every jesmon decklist have a different sistermon than i know. the first few weeks i literally sat there and started to google when the "nun version of sistermon is coming to the global tcg". it took a little bit realizing that sistermon noir IS sistermon ciel
Honestly as someone who grew up watching both tamers and fusion, fusion Beelzemon is honestly my favorite redesign since he just feels like more of a character to me if that makes sense, i love tamers Beelzemon but it's just another darker design that just feels like a really large step away from impmon
I strongly disagree. Beelzemon fits Impmon perfectly. Fusion Beelzemon is bulky, and looks like he can barely move, probably why his only piece of merch looked so tacky. 😤
I think I agree about Falcomon if they have to be the same mon, but I'd rather they be two different mon. One, because they're both so cool, and two, because the newer Falcomon looks like an owl while the original looks more like an actual falcon.
Digimon based on final fantasy whould be cool. Maybe some of the biomechanical stuff from magitek can be incorporated into the design. (Gun)Breaker Leomon..wait thats just a hrothgar player from 14
Personally I like the original Falcomon more. It’s mostly because 2006 Falcomon always looked a bit owl like to me. I think both are great in their own ways though.
The original Falcomon and it's evolution Diatrymon are absolutely some of my favorite Digimon, and I vastly prefer them to 06 Falcomon and it's line: The Prehistoric bird look is so cool. I just wish that there was a good Perfect/Ultimate stage to link Diatrymon to Ornismon and Valdurmon. Yes, Yatagaramon exists, but even in the original Falcomon line it's not particularly prehistoric looking.
I really wish they made some of the original designs from Digimon World into their own variants, Weedmon being grey instead of green, Guardromon being both brass and silver, Sharmamon being brown instead of just a different shade of green, Meteormon being dark brown instead of white...they could even separate them by using the fact that some of them have different names on the localization, they could make a grey Zassoumon and a green Weedmon, a brown Insekimon (who could be Gotsumon's Mega) and a white Meteormon, etc.
The reason why metalgreymon and the kabuterrimon ultimate form change color was because dark colors were much more expensive to use back in the 80s and 90s
I recall being so confused and conflicted when Survive was first announced and they revealed Flacomon for the first time. I had no idea that Falcomon was that old of a character who existed before Data Squad was even conceptualized. Now I don't mind his old look, but the Data Squad design is the definitive Falcomon. I think he would definitely work best as a variant like how they've treated the Agumon design from Data Squad. Also, I completely forgot about Citramon until this video again and I agree that it needs to be properly introduced as its own Digimon because it was that good of a censorship compromise. But I would give a little tweak here and there so he doesn't completely look like an orange Bombernanimon with a leaf on its head.
Huh, well, this became a why more surprising Video than i was expecting, i actually learned quite a lot in this Video, thank you, I really appreciate it. Also, personally, I like all Sistermon.
One Digimon that ended up being the same Digimon with 2 levels that I actually like is Whamon. I like the idea that Whamon is such well adapted creature that the only way to improve on the Champion is to make it bigger and that is enough for it to stand on the same level as SkullGreymon. Whales are also already one of the closest things we have to actual mythological monsters, being the inspiration for a lot of them. If we get a Gesomon Ultimate that is also just a bigger version then that would just be the icing on the cake.
if both sistermon noir adn ciel end up playable in the next story game in the japanese version i wonder of the localizer will keep it like that or give us an other sistermon. Sistermon blanc well endup like gammamon with 3 differnce colour champion
Personally I found out about Falcomon's OG design when I got it from a pack of TCG cards, I was questioning why this yellow card was named Falcomon instead of the ninja bird I'm used to. I thought it was a redesign but soon learned it was the OG after taking a look at the wiki around the time Survive was getting more info released
Let's freaking go Citramon!!! That's such a great pick that people don't appreciate enough. I never knew bombernanimon was a thing until I found out about the censorship of data squad, I thought he was just a fun variant of nanimon
I can totally agree with that, though I did watch the original series and the Digimon movie I always saw the gold rapidmon , not as being a pre-to the green one that we all know in love, but a golden digi egg exclusive, that would only happen if you use the golden did you egg
Now that I think about it, Golden Rapidmon was from a 02 Movie, but somehow I still always thought Green was first and Terriermon just turned golden because of the golden digimental lol
I feel like the censonship on Sistermon Noir is kind silly when you think that there is Devimon, SkullSatamon and a bunch of other devil looking digimons rocking that demonic designe really hard and they say that "nun with guns is passing the line"... But I really like sistermon ciel designe, maybe i am just salty that we can't have sistermon noir in the card game over the english version.
Are you ever going to do a top 10 digimon moves that were described differently in the reference book then how they looked in the anime/manga/video games?
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I think Ciel's hat is a mouse and not a bear.
Ah yeah you're right, it looks like a teddy bear of a mouse I guess lol
noel and ciel need DNA
You forgot Kudamon and Kudamon 2006.
@@geoknuckles4629 Nope, I prefer OG Kudamon
One thing I really appreciate about Falcomon's redesign is that despite them sharing the same name, they didn't give them the same evo line, like they did with Kudamon. Meaning that OG Falcomon still has a place in the franchise as Valdurmon's Rookie, while Savers Falcomon gets Ravemon.
I wish they had named the Savers one something else, like something referencing an owl because it really doesn't look like a falcon. That and maybe canonize their Perfects as Yatagaramon AND Crowmon, as in, each one gets to keep one of the names.
@@NightmareZerogbsi fully agree
2006 should have had owl related name
do we know why kudamon was even redesigned?
Ok. My problem with Sistermon Ciel AS A REPLACMENT to Sistermon Noir is she kinda screwed up the counter-themeing with Blanc. With Noir and Blanc, they had a black/white, virus/vaccine, ranged/melee, Predator(Cat)/Prey(Rabbit) scheme going which was suppose to represent the almost literal "angel and devil" ideas for Huckmon's conscience, finding a balance of the opposing ideals. I do however like Ciel as a Neutral entity for the sisters, being a Grey, Data, Omnivore(Mouse) who works more in the background. The only issue is the sword, but it's anime, a sword can be a mid-ranged weapon by firing beams or whatever.
What sword fires beams. Nah in anime we got characters so strong that their sword create slashes that cut through the air itself
@@oompa1274 or you get characters who fight at range by throwing swords at People XD
Also, the version of Ciel that has guns (which is the one that was designed for the purpose of being a replacement) isn't the best one.
@@oompa1274 At this point, it's literally an in-universe joke that to be in the Saber class in fate, one has to have a sword that shoots beams or does that energy wave slash thing. That's at least 30 to 40ish characters right there.
As all three have been made as cards for the Asia Digimon tcg, I don't think we can consider ciel a replacement for noir.
Leomons redesign of being alive did not make this list
That redesign never sticks
Ouch… 😂
Low blow
😢 😭 why so cold
Why is this not pinned 😂 I almost choked
Sistemon Ciel and Citramon have such fascinating origin stories to me, in the sense that even sensorships can be adopted as completely new digimon by the community and even the creators.
I really don’t get why Sistermon Noir would be controversial in America. I’d imagine the gun loving United States would love a pistol shooting nun.
I hope all three Sistermon can appear together more. Back in December the Japanese Twitter account posted an illustration of the sisters going Christmas shopping. Noir and Blanc excited looking at the cake display while Ciel is holding all of the presents looking like this: 😅
No one is offended by Sistermon Noir, Bandai is just full of cowards and just blaming everything on religious people, because religious people are easy to bully and won't fight back. Religious people are of course allowed to dislike Noir if they want, but Bandai should not be caving to anyone. So to me Bandai is 100% to blame here. They're the ones with the power. They can just say "thank you for your opinion, but we're not changing anything, don't like it don't buy it".
Pokémon was considered offensive and they had no idea what digimon was back then. So yeah, it’s not western fault for once.
Knowing twitter, actual it doesn't matter. Those drama chasers should be ignored.
The us has a lots of Christians as 60% of the people are in that religion and some might find it offensive
I think it's because she had a short skirt and voluptuous, and sexy nuns are a naughty trope? That's all I can think of since there's plenty of religious imagery in digimon that doesn't get censored. Or maybe it's like "3 strikes and you're out", she has sexy, guns, and religious reference so that's too much compared to like Angewoman who is only religious reference and sexy.
Part of the Rapidmon thing that hits for me is the eyes, with Green you can see the head underneath and see the entirety of the eyes, rather than Gold's black void with the eyes peeking out.
Right!
@@Karn_EX
Rapidmon (Fold) Digivolve to... Rapidmon (Perfect)!
His skin color doesnt compliment gold sadly.
On a similar note to this, it might be fun to do a list of digimon whose localized named are better than the original: For me, I'd throw Armadillomon, Raidramon, Gatomon, and the Bearmon for Rookie Kumamon for Spirit change on there (Chakmon just hits the ear badly).
Oooh that's a SPICY idea haha I like it!
I believe personally that burninggreymon is also a better name change then it original as it connection to ancientgreymon and the similarities between the two designs
@@michaelliggett1622 I don't like that name or KendoGarurumon because of the problems it causes in the card game. Same with DoruGreymon
@@ironbee75 I honestly dont know why it called dorugreymon as the doru line has nothing to do with any of the greymon line
I mean literally it dorimon,dorumon,dorugamon,dorugreymon, and then splits off to either alphamon ,dorugoramon, dexdorugoramon, dexmon none of these are related to greymon at least burninggreymon is related to ancient greymon
@@michaelliggett1622It was a mistranslation. The Japanese name is "Doruguremon", which is pronounced almost exactly the same, so when they released him in the west we got "Dorugreymon".
If you have to do a redesign due to censorship, then you should take the opportunity to be imaginative with it. Citrusmon is a funny and eye-catching design.
I agree with all of these except Beelzemon. OG Beelzemon just looks better to me.
Totally fair!
its basically cyborg vs biker design. both are good but if you prefer one style over the other, well....
Beelzebmon Xros Wars design alone is also fine tbh
UNTIL HE DID BRIDGE POSITION AND *XROS EVOLVE WITH SHOUTMON* TOPKEK
I also love Falcomon 2006. My only criticism is it looks more like an owl to me but that is like the tinniest criticism
Yeah, I was about to comment this. They changed the design so much that giving it a new name would be a no brainer.
Call it Strixmon or something like that and we're golden.
The Sistermon one was more of a replacement than a redesign, since all three Sistermon exist at the same time, rather than one taking the place of the other. Also, I think Citrusmon should be made official as well.
Americans: We can't have a black nun Digimon make it blue.
Japanese: Jokes on you baka gajin now we have 3 Sistermons.
Haha for real
Japanese: You mean we have to design another sexy nun?...well if we have too...
As an American blame it on the woke liberals. They get offended by any religion that is not woke.
I like all three of the Sistermon, but as someone whose favorite animal is cats and favorite colors are black and pink, Ciel definitely sits below the other two for me. And the fact that only Japan gets to have all three is starting to cause some problems. For instance, Ciel was recently introduced to the Japanese version of the card game, meaning Japan has cards for Noir and Ciel, but they both get turned into Ciel cards outside Japan, with some of them having to include text saying that they are also considered Virus types, since the censoring changes their attribute, which can impact gameplay. It's just getting really messy for a franchise that thinks a nun with pistols will offend more people than the demon lords...
I do hope they decide screw up let’s give the world three sistermons and make ciel a data because that could be cool
Blame the censorship on woke holier than thou liberals. They're the ones that localize everything and usually without conservative input.
I legit love citramon too - and it feels like a great follow up to nanimon's sake being replaced with pop in adventure
Imagine if nanimon who drink sake digivolve to bombernanimon - and nanimon who drink pop digivolve to citramon!
I think my favorite redesign is Sistermon Ciel because not only it's a redesign for the sake of ”censorship”, but they also make her as canon Digimon too, as another sister of Noir and Blanc
Definitely love it when the redesigns improve the original.
I really, really can't stress how much I want a dna digivolution between Sistermon Ciel and Sistermon Noir.
It should be called "Mothermon" and have a gray nun design with a ff8 gunblade.
Since the "sister" seemingly comes from religious sisterhood as much as, yanno, being actual sisters, you could go even further beyond by calling them something like Marymon. Then Mothermon can be the censorship version lol
I would prefer to call it "Matronmon", but "Mothermon" is aight I guess.
Totally agree with sistermon ciel. That's actually one of my favorite episodes of ghost game. It gave us a peek on Jellymon's social life and entrepreneur shenanigans, sistermon ciel in a go cart race to the death, a awesome dangerous atmosphere in general and blacktailmon uber with a rice cooker. Absolutely love it.
Kind of see a progression with Beelzemon, starting with the punk of the Seven Great Demon Lords, entering his redemption arc with Burst Mode, and finally a straight up hero at 2010.
To be honest, I prefer Sistermon Ciel too. She just looks cute with her teddy bear hood/veil 🥰
Ciel is also my favorite Sistermon alongside Blanc. I think it's because of her artwork in the TCG, manly her ST12 artwork.
Piedmon had some slight tweaks that I prefer over the original. Namely one of his eyes is missing a pupil. This updated version appeared in Ghost Game.
13:11 also pretty funny that Savers´s Falcomon replaced the og without anyone figuring it out cause thats just playing ninja doing things undetected
Hah true!
Another nice video while I wait for my laundry! I agree with your take on Beelzemon, I like the later one but I also like the old one, if 2 kids have one they can have alt looks. Also I was one the ones that didn’t know Falcomon Data wasn’t the OG 😅
Also so many thoughts on the Daddy Deathmeramon, I almost thought said you wanted him… nevermind.
I can see your logic with Beelzemon but personally I like the original's more involved design. It just feels kind of stripped back. Variants are a great tool for Bandai to respect traditional lines while also rectifying a lack of visual cohesion. I don't want to imagine a world where the default Wargreymon was a sickly grey. Instead we get two great designs in original and black.
Totally valid! Like I say it's thiiiiiiiiiiiis close and definitely subject to change lmao
Pretty sure they'd have still hit Machine/Mugendramon being the virus variant's next form. They kind of set it being on the other end in stone with Digimon 2020AD.
Today I learned that BEGGIN is a Frankie Valli song🤯🤯🤯
It took me quite a bit to learn that the OG Falcomon existed. But I still knew it before Survive came out xD I like the OG Falcomon more tho personally :3 It also gives me Hawkmon vibes xD
I can definitely vibe with all of these choices, although I personally still prefer Sistermon Noir over Ciel (and that despite being someone who usually loves blue colorschemes especially with white, and swords), but the significance of Ciels story definitely should make her a top tier pick on a list like this.
I also have to admit, personally, I always forget that Beelzebumon 2010 isn't a variation of Beelzebumon Blast Mode... or rather, in a way I feel like Blast Mode already replaced the original Beelzebumon in most aspects, or at least has basically become part of it, so I don't know if I'd really count Beelzebumon 2010 looking more like Blast Mode as an actual plus-point for it over the regular one.
My personal favorit redesign probably has to be Greymon and MetalGreymon 2010 though.
Honestly they should release both Ciel and Noir. Yet the always offended liberal localizers probably wouldn't allow it. Yet knowing the localizers they'll probably create a 4th Sistermon.
What's even funnier about Citramon is that Kirk Thornton voices him similar to how he voices Don Patch in Bobobo-bo bo-bobo, another character who's known for being round and orange, btw.
This might be blashphemous to say, but I prefer the 2010 version of Greymon and Metal Greymon than the original. There is just something about the blue that makes them look better in my opinion. Greymon having an axe tail is just cool and MetalGreymon looks like he is a member of the Crack Team, also I want an x-antibody of him probably rename him to GigaGreymon to differentiate from the other 2 MetalGreymon X.
I like them too.
Been scrolling through youtube for ages and then KarnEX uploads. my boredom is saved
Ayyy, I know that feeling VERY well haha hope you enjoy the video!
@@Karn_EX Brill video, i always forget that Blue Metalgreymon was the original and I prefer green rapidmon. Its almost a shame that golden rapidmon doesnt give off that unique mystic digimon feel.
Shoutout to you for puttin in the work of rerecording all that.
I totally get what you mean about Rapidmon. So much so that I'm still waiting for they to make a non gold version of Magnamon and have it be the true Ultimate for Exveemon.
Btw, I had no idea that Ciel was being used as a replacement for Noir in the card game and I'm disappointed by that to no end. I thought they flipped that page after the backlash and that ghost game episode came out. This is just embarrassing at this point.
Re-record = the actual best redesign? Loved this one!
Haaaaaaah maybe! Thanks, Mikey!
Great job! Have you ever considered conceptual fusions for the Digimon Survive cast?
I'm surprised that your number one pic is the digimon from data squad that got censored though honestly I like it too. There's just something about a digimon that was originally A-bomb and then it turned into a giant tangerine monster for us that just works. Also I'm with you nuns with swords are just straight up hotter lol. Sistermon Ciel's redesign just works and while i have up on Digimon Ghost Game, I will concede that that episode with her was one of my favorites. Maybe it's due to my love of nuns with weapons or maybe it's due to the fact that Japan really likes hot nun girls but I don't know lol. Regardless, great list Karn!
Fusion beelzemon is a great redesign. I appreciate the punk biker aesthetic of the original, but I love the holy knight thing going on with the other one
I love both of the story of Impmon and Reapmon but I still prefer the original design of the og Beelzemon
Love the video as always Karn! Funny how it was about redesigns and you had to re-record lol. All of your picks are spot on for me this time! I have started to care more for og Falcomon though. I saw Kodokugamon the other day and was so confused about why it looked different and was a rookie. Now I know why!
Wanted to say that your beard is looking fire, and keep up the good work your videos help get me through the week
Citramon is such a deep cut, love it 😂
I jus wrote a comment about being impressed that you rerecorded everything and that that takes so much dedicated for any type of project. I then accidently pressed cancel instead of comment and have to rewrite everything X'D!!!!! LOL The struggle is real and I am unable to remember the exact words I used before LOL LOL LOL. WELL, amazing job, I really enjoyed this video! keep it up, Karn!
Haha thank you so much!
I didn't know why I had a hunch citramon would be on the list but at number 1 now I didn't expect that
Hadda do it to 'em
Honestly I've entirely forgot about Rapidmon Gold
15:43 Who else spent a minute wondering what the heck they changed on Gundramon, only to see the obvious hole and the smoke later? What I will coin as the Barrel Dragon Effect literally blinded me to the obvious...
When it comes to number 8, I feel like that if you were to use them instead of the OG in tamers it would invalidate the blast mode because it is too close to it.
It feels like an excellent halfway point between the two, but there isn’t a good way to fit them all together.
These redesigns are so cool its nice to see them get attention i actually was watching your armor redesigning videos and noticed that Gomamon had literally no Armors besides Urashimamon of which theres still no image of so it be cool to see ot get like a love or friendship armor one of these you could have on based on the Nothosaurus which was both a land and sea creature that would be cool balance between Vikemon and Plesiomon which i think would super i don't seems weird that the rest of the adventure partners has a number of armors but ones like Gomamon and Biyomon and Palmaon really don't have that many
5:58 THAT'S what I'm talking about!
Let's GO!
Nah, I totally am in the "Citrimon is awesome" camp. It's a silly censorship change that created a legitimately funny Digimon that totally fits with the series as a whole.
Meramon to Deathmeramon, Baalmon to Beelzemon.
Impmon pretty much has all the daddy evolutions. That’s amazing..
Kudamon 2006 is one of my favorite redesigns. Hey! You should do possible replacements for the Royal Knights! I know Bloomlordmon will be on that list.
Finally someone who likes Ciel more.
I like to think of these redesigns as variants. It feels nicer to think about and old designs that you like don’t need to feel replaced
I wonder what the mode changes for Rapidmon and Cyberdramon would look like?
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Sorry I've been such a ghost in the comments for a while bro. Going thru some shiz so I haven't really had the patience to articulate my opinions or come up with funny comments. But I never miss an upload. You're the man Karn, my weeks wouldn't be complete without the likes of you and digiknow amongst some of my other favorite content creators.
i'm a pretty casual digimon fan. i would say i am more a fan of your videos than a digimon fan haha. but i still play the tcg since the last few months. starting with the jesmon structure. but oh boy i was so hardly confused seeing every jesmon decklist have a different sistermon than i know. the first few weeks i literally sat there and started to google when the "nun version of sistermon is coming to the global tcg". it took a little bit realizing that sistermon noir IS sistermon ciel
Honestly as someone who grew up watching both tamers and fusion, fusion Beelzemon is honestly my favorite redesign since he just feels like more of a character to me if that makes sense, i love tamers Beelzemon but it's just another darker design that just feels like a really large step away from impmon
I agree
I just want a fusion of the design
I strongly disagree. Beelzemon fits Impmon perfectly. Fusion Beelzemon is bulky, and looks like he can barely move, probably why his only piece of merch looked so tacky. 😤
Beggin was a good example although everyone has their favorite version
I think I agree about Falcomon if they have to be the same mon, but I'd rather they be two different mon. One, because they're both so cool, and two, because the newer Falcomon looks like an owl while the original looks more like an actual falcon.
That OG Deathmeramon looks like the Yugioh fusion card Barox used by Panic in Duelist Kingdom and a few cameo in later episodes or series
Digimon based on final fantasy whould be cool. Maybe some of the biomechanical stuff from magitek can be incorporated into the design. (Gun)Breaker Leomon..wait thats just a hrothgar player from 14
Karn makes the best videos
Aww thank you!
Personally I like the original Falcomon more. It’s mostly because 2006 Falcomon always looked a bit owl like to me. I think both are great in their own ways though.
The original Falcomon and it's evolution Diatrymon are absolutely some of my favorite Digimon, and I vastly prefer them to 06 Falcomon and it's line: The Prehistoric bird look is so cool. I just wish that there was a good Perfect/Ultimate stage to link Diatrymon to Ornismon and Valdurmon. Yes, Yatagaramon exists, but even in the original Falcomon line it's not particularly prehistoric looking.
Ciel does show up in the card game with Noir. In the background of a few Huckmon and BaoHuckmon cards all three digimon appear
I've suggested backup/alternate Devas a few times in the comments of a few prior videos. It could be fun to see.
It says a lot about me when I know about like non of these redesigns and believed some of these were made after the redesign honestly
KoDokugumon is my partner digimon and I am so glad she made it onto this list 🥰
I really wish they made some of the original designs from Digimon World into their own variants, Weedmon being grey instead of green, Guardromon being both brass and silver, Sharmamon being brown instead of just a different shade of green, Meteormon being dark brown instead of white...they could even separate them by using the fact that some of them have different names on the localization, they could make a grey Zassoumon and a green Weedmon, a brown Insekimon (who could be Gotsumon's Mega) and a white Meteormon, etc.
I spy a Kachidoki Lockseed! Was it subtle foreshadowing for the number one pick or pure coincidence lol
I LOVE the original Metalgreymon! Such good coloring and design
The reason why metalgreymon and the kabuterrimon ultimate form change color was because dark colors were much more expensive to use back in the 80s and 90s
Source lol
I recall being so confused and conflicted when Survive was first announced and they revealed Flacomon for the first time. I had no idea that Falcomon was that old of a character who existed before Data Squad was even conceptualized. Now I don't mind his old look, but the Data Squad design is the definitive Falcomon. I think he would definitely work best as a variant like how they've treated the Agumon design from Data Squad.
Also, I completely forgot about Citramon until this video again and I agree that it needs to be properly introduced as its own Digimon because it was that good of a censorship compromise. But I would give a little tweak here and there so he doesn't completely look like an orange Bombernanimon with a leaf on its head.
For me it's opposite
Original is Falcomon to me and 2006 is just something else.
Awesome video!!
I think 8 is great because I could see a season using both of these at different times
Huh, well, this became a why more surprising Video than i was expecting, i actually learned quite a lot in this Video, thank you, I really appreciate it.
Also, personally, I like all Sistermon.
gotta love that exploding orange man
Weird, the blue version was the cannon toy when the figures came out. My brother had it.
It''s so funny seeing Sistermon get censored when Cardfight Vangaurd literally has an entire archetype dedicated to Nuns With Guns
One Digimon that ended up being the same Digimon with 2 levels that I actually like is Whamon. I like the idea that Whamon is such well adapted creature that the only way to improve on the Champion is to make it bigger and that is enough for it to stand on the same level as SkullGreymon. Whales are also already one of the closest things we have to actual mythological monsters, being the inspiration for a lot of them. If we get a Gesomon Ultimate that is also just a bigger version then that would just be the icing on the cake.
Beelzemon 2010 shaped were weird for me but I would like more a combination
Man’s been to a Turkish barbers lately. Looking fresh Karn! 👌
number 8. I really like any designs so I am good and understand if people like one over the other. They go so freaking hard tho!
I LOVE THAT AVGN REFERENCE
if both sistermon noir adn ciel end up playable in the next story game in the japanese version i wonder of the localizer will keep it like that or give us an other sistermon. Sistermon blanc well endup like gammamon with 3 differnce colour champion
Hmm interesting thought, I wonder?
CAME TO SEE IF CITRAMON WAS ON THE LIST
IMAGINE MY SHOCK TO SEE HIS PLACEMENT :^)
cherrymon had the biggest glow up form digimon world to how we see it now
I hope one day you could do a “what if the bit beasts from beyblade 2000 were DIGIMON”
Personally I found out about Falcomon's OG design when I got it from a pack of TCG cards, I was questioning why this yellow card was named Falcomon instead of the ninja bird I'm used to. I thought it was a redesign but soon learned it was the OG after taking a look at the wiki around the time Survive was getting more info released
Let's freaking go Citramon!!! That's such a great pick that people don't appreciate enough. I never knew bombernanimon was a thing until I found out about the censorship of data squad, I thought he was just a fun variant of nanimon
As someone who religiously watched the Digimon Movie as a kid, and hadn't watched Tamers until much later in life... Green Rapidmon IS Rapidmon.
I can totally agree with that, though I did watch the original series and the Digimon movie I always saw the gold rapidmon , not as being a pre-to the green one that we all know in love, but a golden digi egg exclusive, that would only happen if you use the golden did you egg
Not gonna lie, Falcomon 06 looks more like an Owl than a falcon.
There's actually a few types of falcon and hawk that really resemble owls lol
@@Karn_EX Oh, nifty.
Can you make digital hazard forms for the other tamers? (From digimon tamers obviously)
Now that I think about it, Golden Rapidmon was from a 02 Movie, but somehow I still always thought Green was first and Terriermon just turned golden because of the golden digimental lol
Did I miss the top 10 cosplay for Digimon yet just asking
I feel like the censonship on Sistermon Noir is kind silly when you think that there is Devimon, SkullSatamon and a bunch of other devil looking digimons rocking that demonic designe really hard and they say that "nun with guns is passing the line"... But I really like sistermon ciel designe, maybe i am just salty that we can't have sistermon noir in the card game over the english version.
Are you ever going to do a top 10 digimon moves that were described differently in the reference book then how they looked in the anime/manga/video games?
The Baby Kodokugumon was originally mostly used as part of the original dokugumon's attacks, IIRC? Same as ChibiKiwimon.
Speaking of Rapidmon vs Gold Rapidmon, I really like the fanart of Blue Magnamon, and I think they should make one as ExV-mon’s Ultimate.