Hope you all enjoy this one, notification squad! Remember this is a fun "what if" kinda exploring Warp Digivolution from a different perspective. Nothing too serious and not that concerned about total canon!
@@carlosblanco5975 gonna give credit to tri I liked that scene were I don't remember which palmon form but saved the helicopter at the ending in a way to compensate her mistake where the helicopter got damaged don't you agree
@@guillermosierracuellar9812 Hmmm wasn't that during or after the fight between Togemon and orgemon? Yeah sure tri. had quite good moments but overall I cannot forgive how hot mess it ended up being
I had a realization recently, that since matt gained power through realizing the value of friendship and that power let Gabumon Evolve to MetalGarurumon. And since MetalGarurumon is a walking weapons depot, whatever moment forced that to happen basically led Matt to "Defeating you with the power of friendship, and this Gun I found"
Something I find interesting about Agumon and Gabumon warp evo’s is that WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon have similarities to their rookies combined with, like you said, their Champion, the other main Megas were made different from Tai and Matt’s megas in my opinion only 2 of them are similar to Magnadramon and Plesiomon(before Vikemon) also makes me wonder why they got rid of Warp evo to mega since all media past Tri did regular evo
Awesome picks, I've got no arguments against any of them, but for my two cents worth, I've made myself really fond over the years of Armadillomon being an unrealized Holy Digimon and would go for Dominimon as a warp evolution for Armadillomon, as a sort of "brother" to Seraphimon. I even think Arkhai Angemon would be a fun ultimate level for Ankylomon, trading his Earthly powers for the Holy Fire and having his spikes transition to Arkhai's crown.
What about Eldradimon as a potential Mega for Armadillomon? Shelled Quadrupedal Digimon that is supposed to carry the Sacred City on its back has some holy purpose. Also, could you imagine if it grew into a massive many winged Angel City as a form beyond Mega? Holy Eldradimon being several kilometers across, making it rain gold, & staying afloat by Divine Power seems so cool for a final form.
Olegmon's body is also made of Treasure chests, which works as a double reference to Armadillomon's Armours - sea faring pirates burying and digging up treasure.
I was gonna say, "Wait, haven't we seen warp digivolutions for the others before in other media?" But then I saw the rest of the video, and now everything made sense. Thanks for clarification, Mr. Karn. Still think Seraphimon is my personal definitive Angemon digivolution.
I think considering the whole Rosemon/Lotusmon stuff from Savers you could use Lotusmon for Palmon. With Gatomon I feel like maybe just give her Ophamimon to match Seraphimon. I'd say beyond that the rest are mostly decent choices.
I have been championing Olegmon as an Armadimon mega for years, I'm happy to see you include it here. It combines traits from Ankylomon, Shakkoumon, Submarimon and Digmon!
I champion Eldradimon as an Armadillomon Mega either way Gold Makes Sense for Armadillomon whether it's a massive tortoise meant to carry a sacred city & its gold or a pirate pursuing the metal. I can also see a few of the forms for Armadillomon living on Eldradimon. Shakkoumon being sentinals for it, Ankylomon being an Army, Digmon mining more gold & data for Eldradimon, Armadillomon being simple citizens living there.
Dunno if anyone's brought it up, but Olegmon for Armadillomon has a nice parallel to Goddramon with both having Red and Blue summons (Amon&Umon and Jormungandr&Surtr) keeping them nicely paired in 02
I mean Gulimon dosen't need a custom. It's Megidramon. "But Megidramon is a Dark evolution!" Then so are Growlmon and WarGrowlmon who both displayed behavior traits of Megidramon [And Gulimon himself for that matter]. Also; Gulimon manages to tap into Megidramon's power after reverting but before digivolving to Dukemon. Something you never see with any other Dark Evolution. Megidramon isn't a Dark Evolution, he's [the Adventure] Gulimon's natural Mega without Takato to balance out the Digital Hazard. Remember, Gulimon is a naturally aggressive Virus-type. In fact, since lorewise Megidramon and ChaosGallantmon are *literally the same thing* I'd reckon it would be possible for Takato to digivolve Gulimon into Megidramon without him losing complete control if he was in a better mindset.
Given how Guilmon's progression mirrored Tai's Agumon, the alternate mega would probably mirror to the progression of Rize Greymon into Shine Greymon. The Kami Cyborgs already fit this theme for 2 of the 3 just not sure if it works to turn Taomon into Raijinmon
A topic I'd love to see you cover is the concept of Digimon Parentage. In one fanfic called "Dragon in Shining Armor", there was a Paildramon sergeant who started out as an ExVeemon, and due to her father being an Imperialdramon: Dragon mode, she was born with Insect data already, allowing her to just naturally digivolve into her Paildramon form without needing to find a Stingman to DNA Digivolve with.
I really like Morphomon to Quantumon, like a lot more than I would expect. Like the ribbon-like butterfly wings of Morphomon translate wonderfuly into the frilly dress of Quantumon.
Personally I don't think Warp Evolutions should be different to the canon Mega stages, after all Warp is just fastforwarding what's already in the code. But Hydramon for Palmon would be cool. Also that New Century Digimon does indeed fit Biyomon. And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't tri or Adventure 2020 made official that Ophanimon is Gatomon's Mega?
Yeah this is just a bit of fun to explore if it DID affect the final Mega, nothing serious. And 2020 did yes but that's a separate continuity to Tri/Adventure which only had Falldown Mode
The real life explanation to why warp digivolution looks like this is because they were made with the toys where you can turn Agumon/Gabumon into WarGreymon/MetalGarurumon in mind. That's why MetalGarurumon has the same symbol as Gabumon on its belly and why WarGreymon's claws look like they're coming out of smaller claws and why his armor has the same color as Agumon's skin.
Bold of you to assume we would mind being here for 4 years :p But I do wonder, would you propose different evolutions for the 'natural' progression of Agumon and Gabumon? Though, as I type this, I realize CresGarurumon and Blitzgreymon really do fit nicely. Keeping the bipedalism and cyborg elements respectively.
I really love your what if videos that use existing digimon to fill in the gaps left behind in the canon. I also love the custom art digimon too, so please don’t be discouraged from making those videos either. Another great video from Karn Ex. Your content is the main reason I still enjoy being a Digimon fan.
Hi had this exact same thought but instead of the exact opposite. What if all adventure partners evolved all the way through. Like a more humanoid Garudamon or more turtle like Viking evolution of Zudomon
Hi! So I just randomly thought of this and wanted to tell you to just worm this idea into you brain I thought you might be interested in. I wonder if you could ever utilize the 02 Christmas pairs and maybe do a cool role swap with them. Like Tai and TK are paired and Matt and Ken are paired, then TK’s Patamon would have a courage evolution and Ken’s Wormon (wormmon?) would have a friendship evolution and those two could make an Omnimon Evo and then Tai’s Agumon would not only have a hope evolution but also a Hope Armon digivolution plus DNA with Joe and Matt’s Gabumon would have the Kindness crest and could DNA with Mimi (I think that’s who Davis was paired with?) Tai (Courage) TK (Hope) Matt (Friendship) Ken (Kindness) Sora (Love) Yolei (Love and Sincerity) Joe (Reliability) Cody (Reliability and Knowledge) Mimi (Sincerity) Davis (Courage, Friendship, and Miracles) Izzy (Knowledge) Kari (Light) You don’t have to do custom Digimon. Using the Digimon today would be cool idea or grasp of understanding of the direction. Anyway I’m gonna stop rambling but I hope you see this!
2:19 Yup and if anyone is curious what seasons done warp digivolution Adv Tamers (cause Bio merge/Matrix Evo Data Squad Xros Wars because well Tai was in Hunters Tri Appli Monsters 2020 (need to recheck) Ghost Game Outside of the games, the trick isn't as used a lot or only used by the leaders or Data Squad or the Ghost Game trio
I mean, let's be real, the real reason they introduced Warp Digivolution was to cut down on animations from Rookie to Champion to Perfect to Mega, and just give an abridged sequence. If we had to see the full sequence for both Agumon and Gabumon, that would be half the episode right there. On a different note, something that I remembered while watching your segments here on Gatomon, Patamon, and Lopmon and Terriermon is actually something from Frontiers. The three Angels, Seraphimon, Ophanimon, and Cherubimon are angels for Humanoid Digimon and Beast Digimon, but Seraphimon and Ophanimon have Beast counterparts in Goddramon and Magnadramon, but Cherubimon doesn't have a Humanoid angel counterpart. What would be a good Digimon to fill in that gap, or maybe it's something to consider if you do like a miscellaneous Digimon custom art video.
I thought Cherubimon was both Human & Beast kind of like Aldamon & Beowulfmon which is why it doesn't have a dragon or a human form. Also, Episode 53 of 1999 Series had the long evolution sequence of everyone going back to Ultimate & Mega. Data Squad/Savers has Warp skip 1 Stage & Double Warp skip 2 Stages while 2020 did away with Warps.
Karn, have you ever thought about making a video fitting custom arts made in the past into other evolutionary lines? Showing it as Digimon, with free evolution, they can come from anything and become anything, I think it would be really cool
Very nice lines! We make and discuss our own lines just like this in the Dawn/Dusk 2.0 Discord, haha! Always, ALWAYS fun to put our ideas out there for other fans to see and think about. The TCG has done WONDERS for these kinds of topics, since they often explore canon anime lines and establish their own within the cards, almost like an official what-if situation. Love this!👍
Video about Sovereigns would be interesting, but also video about Ancient Warrior Ten evolution lines without using their spirits as part of evolution.
I am so happy to see Plesiomon getting more love, I always considered him to be Gomamon's mega. I love the Godramon as Pattamon's warp mega, but I always though of Godramon as a DNA digivolution similar to Omnimon. I don't know why he just always came across as a DNA digivolution of Magnadramon and Seraphimon to me.
These were some good picks. I do wanna pose a question (maybe a video idea): If you could choose a team of 6-8 Digidestine/Tamers from whatever season (and their evolution methods are still in play), how would your ideal team look? 🤔
I remember always getting those Beckett Collector magazines during the heyday of Adventure season one, and one of the features included a spread of the thru lines of all of the adventure partners up to mega. Godramon was their pick for Patamon, Plesiomon was the pick for Gomamon, and a surprising Gryphonmon was Biyomon's mega. As a kid, I always thought those would eventually be canon in the show, but of course those were just fanon from the magazine.
Goddramon is Patamon's Dragon Mega in Adventure 2020 & is Magnadramon's counterpart they also have the High Angel Megas. I agree that Gryphonmon for Biyomon is surprising as usually Phoenixmon was considered Sora's Mega prior to it being canon. Also do you remember when MarineAngemon was considered Gomamon's Mega? Plesiomon always made more sense as an evolution of Ikkakumon & Zudomon in the time before Vikemon & I still see it as a secondary Mega for Gomamon. Were there any other different Megas you remember? Also, I like that Lalamon is canonically related to Palmon which is why they share Rosemon for their Mega.
I'm a fan of Eldradimon for Armadillomon Mega, although I can see Spinomon as a Dark Digivolve. Which Stage 5 do you use? Ankylomon > Anomalocarimon > Spinomon makes plenty of sense.
@@pseudorider050 Anomalocarimon is the perfect ancient animal to transition from Ankylomon to Spinomon. It's a Spikier Semiaquatic Ankylomon with blades that can become Spinomon's back.
If I remember right, WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon were made with the Digivolving Spirit toys in mind, one reason why MetalGarurumon has the Gabumon stomach logo. The 2020 Adventure anime also references the Digivolving Spirit Agumon toy with the WarGreymon evolution sequence, with opening the head towards the head becoming the wings and more.
Big fan of Palmon into Bloomlordmon or Hydramon from Toropiamon or Ajatarmon respectively with Parasaurmon as the champion. It's actually the line I use in a Digimon ttrpg game I am playing in.
This is such an interesting idea! I never considered that WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon are the way they are because they skipped steps. But that leads me to wonder... What would Agumon and Gabumon's Megas have looked like if they came straight from MetalGreymon and WereGarurumon, building on elements like the titty rockets and bipedalness respectively. Perhaps it would just be BlitzGreymon and CresGarurumon, but I'd like to think there's something unique that can be done there
As a thought on the "true" Megas being BlitzGreymon and CresGarurumon, it occurs to me that those would keep the combat styles of their previous forms (WereGarurumon being a melee/close range fighter, whereas MetalGreymon is more of a ranged focused fighter (bear in mind, even MetalGreymon's main close range attack has the capability of being used at range))
And for the inverse for Metalgreymon and Weregarurumom, Blitzgreymon and Cresgarurumom are obvious with Blitzgreymon's virus typing being a good callback to the original Metalgreymon. Also, Quantumon really is a good choice at least for Menoa's Morphomon specifically, since it would be a supercomputer digimon for a super genius woman.
Oh hacc yeah!!! I like Seraphimon and Goldramon. With Ophanimon and Magnadramon. Another tidbit, Goldramon fits as Kudamon 2006's mega, because of the slithery body feel. And I like Kudamon 2006. With Reppamon and Angemon routes for it. And sometimes Valkyrimon as Kudamon's mega for speed and similarities, for Gammamon Kudamon compliment,same, yet compliment colors, or Gammamon and Kudamon together to make Siriusmon (like in digimon world 3 Guilmon and Bearmon) Kudamon being a good role model for Gammamon. Sorry if I had overwhelmed you with new things. And Kudamon 2006 with Shoutmon on level above level is a made up digimon "Chevalmon" or "Chevamon" (Valkyrimon and Angemon similarities), then Jogressing or DNA digivolving with OmniShoutmon to create Medicimon (pronounce Medichimon), the red priest and the golden guardian angel digimon... Ok that's enough...
As for Agumon and Gabumon, surprisingly I think Adventure 2020 put forth interesting 'feels like better direct evolutions' for MetalGreyMon and WereGaruruMon in BlitzGreymon and CresGarurumon, if you're going with Warp digivolution feeling more like skipping and giving a final form to the rookie level, based on Champion
Gatomon to Saberleomon isn’t even a stretch when you look at Digimon World 2. For some reason, the ClearAgumon branch had Leomon and Gatomon as its Champions. So Gatomon being connected to the Leomon line isn’t unheard of, especially if you consider that her gloves are made of Saberleomon data.
In the good old times, the coolest part about the warp digivolutions was the fact that they were made in 3D, in the time when that was the coolest of all
I never really saw “Warp Digivolving” as “skipping” Digivolution, mostly because during the divivolution sequence in Adventure we see both Agumon and Gabumon become their Champion forms then followed by their Ultimates before becoming their Megas, so really Warp Digivolution is essentially a fast forward rather than a skip.
I love that you give us different options, head canon evolutions are important and very easy for someone's head to explode 😂. I can't wait to hear what you think of the movie, I was lucky enough to watch it so I'm eager to see that video. Last thing, for Morphomon's mega connection it can always be redrawn to have the wing patterns on the robe, kinda like how Beelzemon has 2 versions.
u should be working wiht bandai namco to make a 3rd installment of cyber slueth and hackers memory, also have them do a partnership wiht genshin impact so we can get paimon as a dlc digimon story,
I'd personally use fanglongmon for armadillomon WAIT before you say it just look at it visually it works perfectly or if not then like spinomon because it has the blades of slashangemon
I can see Spinomon as a Dark Digivolve although I prefer Eldradimon as Armadillomon's Mega. Anomalocarimon is a perfect in between for Ankylomon & Spinomon. Fanglongmon is an interesting choice.
Ophanimon is an actual thing in the Anime... except she didn't really exist as Gatomon's mega till Tri. Also didn't Patamon and Gatomon actually Warp Digivolve to Seraphimon and Magnadramon in the Digimon movie? I don't remember if they had an actual animation sequence but I'm pretty sure they did at least mention Warp Divivolution and that's some how where the Golden Digi-eggs came from. Maybe that weirdly rushed sequence is just in the American version because of it actually being 3 movies edited together into 1 for the dub. I'm also pretty sure that all of the original Adventure Digimon warp Digivolved in Tri. Warp Digivolution just seems to be the standard way to evolve to Mega level. I don't think any Digimon has ever properly evolved from Ultimate to Mega... at least not in Adventure. And even if that was a thing I don't think it would change the Mega at all because Warp evolution isn't really skipping stages, the animation literally shows the Rookie changing from Champion to Ultimate before finally landing on Mega, it's just a speedy way of getting to Mega from an earlier stage.
Patamon and Gatomon didn't warp evolve in the third movie, Angemon warp evolved into Seraphimon and Angewomon ultimate evolved into Holydramon back when the term Ultimate Evolution/Mega Digivolution was not established until Imperialdramon DM's debut. We have Nyaromon warp evolving to Ofanimon Falldown mode in tri, and tri canon established that Angewomon did in fact dark evolve into said version of Ofanimon. As for Warp Evolution, it involves evolving all the way to required stage of evolution without any pauses. Instead of showing multiple evolution scenes we were presented by one scene that shows all evolution stages in the early days of Adventureverse. As for tri, my theory is that they wanted to establish the Digimon's capability to ultimate evolve with or without the need to use a D-3 or Jogress Evolution, since it was exclusive to Paildramon (a Jogress Digimon) evolving to Imperialdramon (a Digimon partnered with two D-3 owners). And I guess to show the cool evolution scenes created for tri.
The comparison with the champion level really only wirks with Gabumon. Wargreymon isn't really based on Greymon. And perhaps it's worth noting that we get Warp Digitizations to ultra level later in Ghost Game. They follow the familiar path quite clearly. But it is interesting that the whole thing was brought back just for that.
I really hope you get to see 02: The Beginning. It was really good! And once you do, I'd love to see you give your take on it. I appreciate you including Ukkomon despite having not seen the movie yet.
Great Picks! There were a lot their that I didn't expect, but worked exceptionally well! One Idea that popped into my head for Armadillomon, if you wanted to keep him on all fours, is El Doradimon. Also would love to see a video about the Sovereign's Digivolution lines. It would be interesting to explore the lines for them with no restrictions on what you could use. Sort of getting the ideal Sovereign Digivolution Line.
I think BanchoStingmon works really well if you take it as Wormmon taking some of the parts that defined Ken with it taking some parts of his tima as the Digimon Kaiser. He takes a slightly more aggressive and solitary side while still keeping in line with his pure evolution of Stingmon he only reached after Ken became himself again. I think Wormmon evolving to Banchosthingmon would fit really well with Ken coming to terms with what he did while he was under the dark seeds influence as the Kaiser.
One of your recent videos made me think of something similar to this. The idea that warp could be a rush evolution less powerful but easier to achieve. Also keeping a similar design - pleisomon being the key example. I would have goldramon be patamon's with seraphimon being his true mega. To give another example warp digivolution is like future trunks rage mode but a true mega is like ssj blue
Never thought about it like that before, interesting idea for alternative megas. I think since Wormmon is supposed to be an ancient species of digimon since it can armor evolve then I think Ancient Beetlemon could work as its warp mega, or maybe the other way and have JewelBeemon become Ancient Beetlemon and BanchoStingmon the warp mega. Also now I like Olgemon as an alternative mega for Shakkumon instead of Vikemon, or my personal preference Goddramon.
So two things; first, it's kind of funny to me how Goddramon (or Goldramon in some cases) used to be the Mega for Veemon. Like it was Veemon to Veedramon then AeroVeedramon and finally Goddramon. We saw this in the card game recently with the "Four Great Dragons" cards where that line is almost shown minus it being Agumon as the rookie in the line for that? But then I kind of thought....what if Goddramon were the mega of that hypotheitcal ExVeemon/Angemon DNA Digivolution? It'd make a lot of sense, an ancient dragon digimon fused with an angel and Goddramon is the final end result of it. Just an odd thing I thought about. Second, for Armadillomon's Mega, I kind of wouldn't mind if HE ended up as ElDradimon for his mega. It's reptillian and matches up with Armadillomon and Ankylomon's look to many degrees so you'd just need a middle evo there. Armadillomon is linked to an Ancient Species of Digimon so his final Mega being an Ancient City Digimon would sync up pretty well. And it even has golden bits reminiscent of Armadillomon like on his helmet. Once more just a thought I had after you mentioned ElDradimon. Great video overall and thought provoking as is evident here.
Idk how it’s spelled, so I’m just gonna go for it… Shonponmon? Is a pretty cool warp for Biyomon, especially once we notice the leg brace that it has. It’s like Biyomon’s brace evolved with her, still
Olegmon is definitely a perfect pick, I feel like he could even be a better mega for shaquamon than vikemon, tho maybe that's my bias because I am a huge olegmon enjoyer lol
I think DeviTamamon is a good warp evolution for Bakumon/Tapirmon because Bakumon and Digitamamon have the same attack called nightmare syndrome but no adult/champion has it and Devitamamon is a nightmarish Digitamamon.
I hate to say it, but Hydramon works perfectly for a Palmon warp. Palmon is already a combo of plant and lizard/dinosaur elements. If Rosemon is the final version of a beautiful humanoid evo line Palmon warping into monsterous Hydramon feels poetic.
Hope you all enjoy this one, notification squad! Remember this is a fun "what if" kinda exploring Warp Digivolution from a different perspective. Nothing too serious and not that concerned about total canon!
If I applaud something about tri and 2020 and the videogame is that they allowed all of them to warp digivolve
That and Biyomon is a Phoenix
Yeah because for the rest tri. and 2020 were super lacking
@@carlosblanco5975 gonna give credit to tri I liked that scene were I don't remember which palmon form but saved the helicopter at the ending in a way to compensate her mistake where the helicopter got damaged don't you agree
@@guillermosierracuellar9812 Hmmm wasn't that during or after the fight between Togemon and orgemon? Yeah sure tri. had quite good moments but overall I cannot forgive how hot mess it ended up being
NGL I thought Karn was about to be like “I commissioned 3D animators to render 6 Digivolution Sequences!!” 😂
Haaaah, not got that in the budget lmaoo
Not yet @@Karn_EX
I had a realization recently, that since matt gained power through realizing the value of friendship and that power let Gabumon Evolve to MetalGarurumon. And since MetalGarurumon is a walking weapons depot, whatever moment forced that to happen basically led Matt to "Defeating you with the power of friendship, and this Gun I found"
Hear me out.
What if Hogarth Huges reincarnated as Matt, and the Iron Giant’s data turned into Gabumon?
That’s a very intriguing perspective on warp digivolution and it opens the door to some interesting possibilities.
Right? Def nothing too serious but an interesting perspective I hadn't considered before Dougoud came to me with it
Something I find interesting about Agumon and Gabumon warp evo’s is that WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon have similarities to their rookies combined with, like you said, their Champion, the other main Megas were made different from Tai and Matt’s megas in my opinion only 2 of them are similar to Magnadramon and Plesiomon(before Vikemon) also makes me wonder why they got rid of Warp evo to mega since all media past Tri did regular evo
I wonder what metalgreymon and weregarurumon are
I believe this was due to the Digivolving toys, which were designed to allow parts of the Rookie to function as parts of the Mega.
Awesome picks, I've got no arguments against any of them, but for my two cents worth, I've made myself really fond over the years of Armadillomon being an unrealized Holy Digimon and would go for Dominimon as a warp evolution for Armadillomon, as a sort of "brother" to Seraphimon.
I even think Arkhai Angemon would be a fun ultimate level for Ankylomon, trading his Earthly powers for the Holy Fire and having his spikes transition to Arkhai's crown.
Ooh I like that a lot!
What about Eldradimon as a potential Mega for Armadillomon? Shelled Quadrupedal Digimon that is supposed to carry the Sacred City on its back has some holy purpose. Also, could you imagine if it grew into a massive many winged Angel City as a form beyond Mega? Holy Eldradimon being several kilometers across, making it rain gold, & staying afloat by Divine Power seems so cool for a final form.
Olegmon's body is also made of Treasure chests, which works as a double reference to Armadillomon's Armours - sea faring pirates burying and digging up treasure.
I was gonna say, "Wait, haven't we seen warp digivolutions for the others before in other media?" But then I saw the rest of the video, and now everything made sense.
Thanks for clarification, Mr. Karn.
Still think Seraphimon is my personal definitive Angemon digivolution.
Yeah no prob thanks for watching!
Warp made a return in Ghost Game.
Honestly a Palmon alt mega I like is Lotosmon, it has a very similar Theming to Rosemon but is purple, matching Palmon's pinkish flower more.
I think considering the whole Rosemon/Lotusmon stuff from Savers you could use Lotusmon for Palmon. With Gatomon I feel like maybe just give her Ophamimon to match Seraphimon. I'd say beyond that the rest are mostly decent choices.
I have been championing Olegmon as an Armadimon mega for years, I'm happy to see you include it here. It combines traits from Ankylomon, Shakkoumon, Submarimon and Digmon!
Yay!
I champion Eldradimon as an Armadillomon Mega either way Gold Makes Sense for Armadillomon whether it's a massive tortoise meant to carry a sacred city & its gold or a pirate pursuing the metal. I can also see a few of the forms for Armadillomon living on Eldradimon. Shakkoumon being sentinals for it, Ankylomon being an Army, Digmon mining more gold & data for Eldradimon, Armadillomon being simple citizens living there.
Dunno if anyone's brought it up, but Olegmon for Armadillomon has a nice parallel to Goddramon with both having Red and Blue summons (Amon&Umon and Jormungandr&Surtr) keeping them nicely paired in 02
I really like this concept as a plausible explanation for alternate megas like plesiomon, Magnadramon, and Golddramon
Tlalocmon is such a vibe, the digimon team really did their homework with the aztec culture and religion I really dig the design!
Nice job! Maybe you can create true custom Megas for the Biomerged Digimon of Digimon Tamers?
I mean Gulimon dosen't need a custom. It's Megidramon.
"But Megidramon is a Dark evolution!"
Then so are Growlmon and WarGrowlmon who both displayed behavior traits of Megidramon [And Gulimon himself for that matter]. Also; Gulimon manages to tap into Megidramon's power after reverting but before digivolving to Dukemon. Something you never see with any other Dark Evolution. Megidramon isn't a Dark Evolution, he's [the Adventure] Gulimon's natural Mega without Takato to balance out the Digital Hazard. Remember, Gulimon is a naturally aggressive Virus-type.
In fact, since lorewise Megidramon and ChaosGallantmon are *literally the same thing* I'd reckon it would be possible for Takato to digivolve Gulimon into Megidramon without him losing complete control if he was in a better mindset.
Given how Guilmon's progression mirrored Tai's Agumon, the alternate mega would probably mirror to the progression of Rize Greymon into Shine Greymon. The Kami Cyborgs already fit this theme for 2 of the 3 just not sure if it works to turn Taomon into Raijinmon
A topic I'd love to see you cover is the concept of Digimon Parentage. In one fanfic called "Dragon in Shining Armor", there was a Paildramon sergeant who started out as an ExVeemon, and due to her father being an Imperialdramon: Dragon mode, she was born with Insect data already, allowing her to just naturally digivolve into her Paildramon form without needing to find a Stingman to DNA Digivolve with.
0:43 I never understand why the hell Metalgarurumon had to returned to be a quadruple digimon
This is a really cool idea. I never thought of "Warp Digivolution" as different than Digivolution.
Right? I thought so!
Immediately starts the list with Gomamon becoming the superior Plesiomon.
Me: BASED. COOK KING.
Hahaha
I really like Morphomon to Quantumon, like a lot more than I would expect.
Like the ribbon-like butterfly wings of Morphomon translate wonderfuly into the frilly dress of Quantumon.
Personally I don't think Warp Evolutions should be different to the canon Mega stages, after all Warp is just fastforwarding what's already in the code. But Hydramon for Palmon would be cool. Also that New Century Digimon does indeed fit Biyomon.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't tri or Adventure 2020 made official that Ophanimon is Gatomon's Mega?
Yeah this is just a bit of fun to explore if it DID affect the final Mega, nothing serious.
And 2020 did yes but that's a separate continuity to Tri/Adventure which only had Falldown Mode
The real life explanation to why warp digivolution looks like this is because they were made with the toys where you can turn Agumon/Gabumon into WarGreymon/MetalGarurumon in mind. That's why MetalGarurumon has the same symbol as Gabumon on its belly and why WarGreymon's claws look like they're coming out of smaller claws and why his armor has the same color as Agumon's skin.
Bold of you to assume we would mind being here for 4 years :p
But I do wonder, would you propose different evolutions for the 'natural' progression of Agumon and Gabumon? Though, as I type this, I realize CresGarurumon and Blitzgreymon really do fit nicely. Keeping the bipedalism and cyborg elements respectively.
I really love your what if videos that use existing digimon to fill in the gaps left behind in the canon. I also love the custom art digimon too, so please don’t be discouraged from making those videos either. Another great video from Karn Ex. Your content is the main reason I still enjoy being a Digimon fan.
Aww thank you so much
Babe wake up. New Karn EX vid just dropped!
Truly
Aww hope you enjoy!
Hi had this exact same thought but instead of the exact opposite. What if all adventure partners evolved all the way through. Like a more humanoid Garudamon or more turtle like Viking evolution of Zudomon
Ooh interesting idea!
Dianamon being featured once more feels correct. Great Vid!!
Hi! So I just randomly thought of this and wanted to tell you to just worm this idea into you brain I thought you might be interested in. I wonder if you could ever utilize the 02 Christmas pairs and maybe do a cool role swap with them. Like Tai and TK are paired and Matt and Ken are paired, then TK’s Patamon would have a courage evolution and Ken’s Wormon (wormmon?) would have a friendship evolution and those two could make an Omnimon Evo and then Tai’s Agumon would not only have a hope evolution but also a Hope Armon digivolution plus DNA with Joe and Matt’s Gabumon would have the Kindness crest and could DNA with Mimi (I think that’s who Davis was paired with?)
Tai (Courage) TK (Hope)
Matt (Friendship) Ken (Kindness)
Sora (Love) Yolei (Love and Sincerity)
Joe (Reliability) Cody (Reliability and Knowledge)
Mimi (Sincerity) Davis (Courage, Friendship, and Miracles)
Izzy (Knowledge) Kari (Light)
You don’t have to do custom Digimon. Using the Digimon today would be cool idea or grasp of understanding of the direction. Anyway I’m gonna stop rambling but I hope you see this!
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Yup and if anyone is curious what seasons done warp digivolution
Adv
Tamers (cause Bio merge/Matrix Evo
Data Squad
Xros Wars because well Tai was in Hunters
Tri
Appli Monsters
2020 (need to recheck)
Ghost Game
Outside of the games, the trick isn't as used a lot or only used by the leaders or Data Squad or the Ghost Game trio
I mean, let's be real, the real reason they introduced Warp Digivolution was to cut down on animations from Rookie to Champion to Perfect to Mega, and just give an abridged sequence. If we had to see the full sequence for both Agumon and Gabumon, that would be half the episode right there.
On a different note, something that I remembered while watching your segments here on Gatomon, Patamon, and Lopmon and Terriermon is actually something from Frontiers. The three Angels, Seraphimon, Ophanimon, and Cherubimon are angels for Humanoid Digimon and Beast Digimon, but Seraphimon and Ophanimon have Beast counterparts in Goddramon and Magnadramon, but Cherubimon doesn't have a Humanoid angel counterpart. What would be a good Digimon to fill in that gap, or maybe it's something to consider if you do like a miscellaneous Digimon custom art video.
Oh for sure, just wanted to explore it as if it was a "type" of Digivolution haha
Interesting thought on Cherubimon, might be interesting to explore!
I thought Cherubimon was both Human & Beast kind of like Aldamon & Beowulfmon which is why it doesn't have a dragon or a human form. Also, Episode 53 of 1999 Series had the long evolution sequence of everyone going back to Ultimate & Mega. Data Squad/Savers has Warp skip 1 Stage & Double Warp skip 2 Stages while 2020 did away with Warps.
This is such a cool thought experiment. That the warp somehow effects the mega is something I haven't thought about
Glad you think so!
Karn, have you ever thought about making a video fitting custom arts made in the past into other evolutionary lines? Showing it as Digimon, with free evolution, they can come from anything and become anything, I think it would be really cool
I did enjoy this one. It's wonderful to find people that are like me to be friends with online.
Very nice lines! We make and discuss our own lines just like this in the Dawn/Dusk 2.0 Discord, haha! Always, ALWAYS fun to put our ideas out there for other fans to see and think about. The TCG has done WONDERS for these kinds of topics, since they often explore canon anime lines and establish their own within the cards, almost like an official what-if situation. Love this!👍
Glad to hear that, that sounds hella fun!
You gonna mention a fun discord server without dropping a link?
@@MrThaiTuber Exactly!
Veemon to UlforceVeedramon needs to happen in my opinion
Video about Sovereigns would be interesting, but also video about Ancient Warrior Ten evolution lines without using their spirits as part of evolution.
I am so happy to see Plesiomon getting more love, I always considered him to be Gomamon's mega. I love the Godramon as Pattamon's warp mega, but I always though of Godramon as a DNA digivolution similar to Omnimon. I don't know why he just always came across as a DNA digivolution of Magnadramon and Seraphimon to me.
I have been waiting for someone to do this forever!
Hope you enjoy!
What, No Lotosmon for Palmon?, No Lotosmon Love
These were some good picks.
I do wanna pose a question (maybe a video idea): If you could choose a team of 6-8 Digidestine/Tamers from whatever season (and their evolution methods are still in play), how would your ideal team look? 🤔
Ooooh like crafting my ideal team? That's fun!
The most accurate description of metal Greymon I have ever heard " Titty Missiles"
imagen Cody's reaction to Armadillomon/Olegmon shouting all sorts of pirate talk out of nowhere
I remember always getting those Beckett Collector magazines during the heyday of Adventure season one, and one of the features included a spread of the thru lines of all of the adventure partners up to mega. Godramon was their pick for Patamon, Plesiomon was the pick for Gomamon, and a surprising Gryphonmon was Biyomon's mega. As a kid, I always thought those would eventually be canon in the show, but of course those were just fanon from the magazine.
Goddramon is Patamon's Dragon Mega in Adventure 2020 & is Magnadramon's counterpart they also have the High Angel Megas. I agree that Gryphonmon for Biyomon is surprising as usually Phoenixmon was considered Sora's Mega prior to it being canon. Also do you remember when MarineAngemon was considered Gomamon's Mega? Plesiomon always made more sense as an evolution of Ikkakumon & Zudomon in the time before Vikemon & I still see it as a secondary Mega for Gomamon. Were there any other different Megas you remember? Also, I like that Lalamon is canonically related to Palmon which is why they share Rosemon for their Mega.
@bookmew1081 Yes! Omg I remember MarineAngemon being the de facto Gomamon mega, you're right!
I usually like to use Spinomon for Armadillomon but your points for Olegmon won me over. I love him for Armadillomon
I'm a fan of Eldradimon for Armadillomon Mega, although I can see Spinomon as a Dark Digivolve. Which Stage 5 do you use? Ankylomon > Anomalocarimon > Spinomon makes plenty of sense.
@bookmew1081 yeah the ultimate has always been an issue. I'm not sure on anyone
@@pseudorider050 Anomalocarimon is the perfect ancient animal to transition from Ankylomon to Spinomon. It's a Spikier Semiaquatic Ankylomon with blades that can become Spinomon's back.
Something I noticed for that final Biyomon option was the matching rings on the left feet. Was kind of surprised you didn't bring it up.
If I remember right, WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon were made with the Digivolving Spirit toys in mind, one reason why MetalGarurumon has the Gabumon stomach logo.
The 2020 Adventure anime also references the Digivolving Spirit Agumon toy with the WarGreymon evolution sequence, with opening the head towards the head becoming the wings and more.
Big fan of Palmon into Bloomlordmon or Hydramon from Toropiamon or Ajatarmon respectively with Parasaurmon as the champion. It's actually the line I use in a Digimon ttrpg game I am playing in.
This is such an interesting idea! I never considered that WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon are the way they are because they skipped steps. But that leads me to wonder... What would Agumon and Gabumon's Megas have looked like if they came straight from MetalGreymon and WereGarurumon, building on elements like the titty rockets and bipedalness respectively. Perhaps it would just be BlitzGreymon and CresGarurumon, but I'd like to think there's something unique that can be done there
As a thought on the "true" Megas being BlitzGreymon and CresGarurumon, it occurs to me that those would keep the combat styles of their previous forms (WereGarurumon being a melee/close range fighter, whereas MetalGreymon is more of a ranged focused fighter (bear in mind, even MetalGreymon's main close range attack has the capability of being used at range))
Honestly Olegmon is a slam dunk for Armadillomon. Maybe with Korikakumon as the Ultimate?
And for the inverse for Metalgreymon and Weregarurumom, Blitzgreymon and Cresgarurumom are obvious with Blitzgreymon's virus typing being a good callback to the original Metalgreymon. Also, Quantumon really is a good choice at least for Menoa's Morphomon specifically, since it would be a supercomputer digimon for a super genius woman.
Oh hacc yeah!!!
I like Seraphimon and Goldramon. With Ophanimon and Magnadramon. Another tidbit, Goldramon fits as Kudamon 2006's mega, because of the slithery body feel. And I like Kudamon 2006. With Reppamon and Angemon routes for it.
And sometimes Valkyrimon as Kudamon's mega for speed and similarities, for Gammamon Kudamon compliment,same, yet compliment colors, or Gammamon and Kudamon together to make Siriusmon (like in digimon world 3 Guilmon and Bearmon) Kudamon being a good role model for Gammamon.
Sorry if I had overwhelmed you with new things.
And Kudamon 2006 with Shoutmon on level above level is a made up digimon "Chevalmon" or "Chevamon" (Valkyrimon and Angemon similarities), then Jogressing or DNA digivolving with OmniShoutmon to create Medicimon (pronounce Medichimon), the red priest and the golden guardian angel digimon... Ok that's enough...
The lack of true digivolution lines for Hawkmon & Armadillomon is criminal. ExVeemon also deserves a true line.
They never got their crests and at the time the crests couldn’t be used as they had to keep the Digital World in balance.
As for Agumon and Gabumon, surprisingly I think Adventure 2020 put forth interesting 'feels like better direct evolutions' for MetalGreyMon and WereGaruruMon in BlitzGreymon and CresGarurumon, if you're going with Warp digivolution feeling more like skipping and giving a final form to the rookie level, based on Champion
Gatomon to Saberleomon isn’t even a stretch when you look at Digimon World 2.
For some reason, the ClearAgumon branch had Leomon and Gatomon as its Champions. So Gatomon being connected to the Leomon line isn’t unheard of, especially if you consider that her gloves are made of Saberleomon data.
In the good old times, the coolest part about the warp digivolutions was the fact that they were made in 3D, in the time when that was the coolest of all
I saw the icon and said "if he doesn't credit me I swear tg" and screamed when I saw my icon hahahaha ❤
Haha of course!
At least in the dub, there is a 3rd Warp Digivolution. Angemon specifically Warp Digivolves to Seraphimon in the movie
Loved this, couldn't have picked any better!
Thanks bud!
GOD i wish we'd get a scene with both adventure Vikemon with Joe, T.K. and Cody just being utterly confused
I never really saw “Warp Digivolving” as “skipping” Digivolution, mostly because during the divivolution sequence in Adventure we see both Agumon and Gabumon become their Champion forms then followed by their Ultimates before becoming their Megas, so really Warp Digivolution is essentially a fast forward rather than a skip.
no spoilers (in fact i haven't seen the film), but i love the ukkomon evolution from the movie.
This was a fun one. Do you think you'll do an accompanying vid of Agumon and Gabumon's non-warp megas?
Maybe as a Short!
Another great video
Hi Karn great vid😊
Thanks!
Every time Karn says "Hydrussy", a random star in the solar system goes supernova
All according to keikaku
I think it's funny that garurumon and greyson are the only partner digimon with metal evos
I truly love your videos 🙆🏼♀️
I'm so glad! Thank you so much!
Fun fact. A number of Mega Forms for the Adventure Digimon were originally Ultimate levels.
I love that you give us different options, head canon evolutions are important and very easy for someone's head to explode 😂. I can't wait to hear what you think of the movie, I was lucky enough to watch it so I'm eager to see that video. Last thing, for Morphomon's mega connection it can always be redrawn to have the wing patterns on the robe, kinda like how Beelzemon has 2 versions.
Can we see inverse megas to the adventure cast like you did for tamers?
Hi how are you today am in a really good mood to watch some digimon :)
u should be working wiht bandai namco to make a 3rd installment of cyber slueth and hackers memory, also have them do a partnership wiht genshin impact so we can get paimon as a dlc digimon story,
Happy Thanksgiving to Karn
What if 02 cast had Dark Digivolution of Ultimate and Mega level?
What if Tai got with Sora?
Happy Thanksgiving!
Awesome choices. And they fit well.
Thanks!
I'd personally use fanglongmon for armadillomon WAIT before you say it just look at it visually it works perfectly or if not then like spinomon because it has the blades of slashangemon
I can see Spinomon as a Dark Digivolve although I prefer Eldradimon as Armadillomon's Mega. Anomalocarimon is a perfect in between for Ankylomon & Spinomon. Fanglongmon is an interesting choice.
Ophanimon is an actual thing in the Anime... except she didn't really exist as Gatomon's mega till Tri. Also didn't Patamon and Gatomon actually Warp Digivolve to Seraphimon and Magnadramon in the Digimon movie? I don't remember if they had an actual animation sequence but I'm pretty sure they did at least mention Warp Divivolution and that's some how where the Golden Digi-eggs came from. Maybe that weirdly rushed sequence is just in the American version because of it actually being 3 movies edited together into 1 for the dub.
I'm also pretty sure that all of the original Adventure Digimon warp Digivolved in Tri. Warp Digivolution just seems to be the standard way to evolve to Mega level. I don't think any Digimon has ever properly evolved from Ultimate to Mega... at least not in Adventure. And even if that was a thing I don't think it would change the Mega at all because Warp evolution isn't really skipping stages, the animation literally shows the Rookie changing from Champion to Ultimate before finally landing on Mega, it's just a speedy way of getting to Mega from an earlier stage.
Patamon and Gatomon didn't warp evolve in the third movie, Angemon warp evolved into Seraphimon and Angewomon ultimate evolved into Holydramon back when the term Ultimate Evolution/Mega Digivolution was not established until Imperialdramon DM's debut. We have Nyaromon warp evolving to Ofanimon Falldown mode in tri, and tri canon established that Angewomon did in fact dark evolve into said version of Ofanimon.
As for Warp Evolution, it involves evolving all the way to required stage of evolution without any pauses. Instead of showing multiple evolution scenes we were presented by one scene that shows all evolution stages in the early days of Adventureverse. As for tri, my theory is that they wanted to establish the Digimon's capability to ultimate evolve with or without the need to use a D-3 or Jogress Evolution, since it was exclusive to Paildramon (a Jogress Digimon) evolving to Imperialdramon (a Digimon partnered with two D-3 owners). And I guess to show the cool evolution scenes created for tri.
The comparison with the champion level really only wirks with Gabumon. Wargreymon isn't really based on Greymon.
And perhaps it's worth noting that we get Warp Digitizations to ultra level later in Ghost Game. They follow the familiar path quite clearly. But it is interesting that the whole thing was brought back just for that.
For an inverse of this, where Tai and Matt's partners digivolved normally to mega my suggestions would be good ol Blitz and Cres
Why is Gatomon ( Champion ) not Salamon ( Rookie ) warp digivolving? Is it not based on being a rookie?
I forgor lol but yeah it would be Salamon
I really hope you get to see 02: The Beginning. It was really good! And once you do, I'd love to see you give your take on it. I appreciate you including Ukkomon despite having not seen the movie yet.
I'd go with AncientIrismon for Morphomon giving her the Fairymon line.
That's definitely fun!
I welcome the idea of Olegmon being the Mega for Armadillomon, but I'd personally prefer Cannondramon. Would be a perfect fit.
LOL! This is the first time I have heard MetalGreymon's chest missiles referred to as "titty missiless'.
Ophanimon was gatomon mega in tri and in the reboot it was a secondary mega heck it straight up became falldown mode in tri
Only Falldown Mode was seen in Tri we still haven't seen Ophanimon itself in the OG canon
Great Picks! There were a lot their that I didn't expect, but worked exceptionally well! One Idea that popped into my head for Armadillomon, if you wanted to keep him on all fours, is El Doradimon.
Also would love to see a video about the Sovereign's Digivolution lines. It would be interesting to explore the lines for them with no restrictions on what you could use. Sort of getting the ideal Sovereign Digivolution Line.
Thank you! And ooh Eldradimon is pretty great!
And awesome, I'd love to do it just like that!
I think BanchoStingmon works really well if you take it as Wormmon taking some of the parts that defined Ken with it taking some parts of his tima as the Digimon Kaiser. He takes a slightly more aggressive and solitary side while still keeping in line with his pure evolution of Stingmon he only reached after Ken became himself again. I think Wormmon evolving to Banchosthingmon would fit really well with Ken coming to terms with what he did while he was under the dark seeds influence as the Kaiser.
A perfect champion for morphomon, especially when tying it in with Quantumon is Hudiemon
One of your recent videos made me think of something similar to this. The idea that warp could be a rush evolution less powerful but easier to achieve. Also keeping a similar design - pleisomon being the key example. I would have goldramon be patamon's with seraphimon being his true mega. To give another example warp digivolution is like future trunks rage mode but a true mega is like ssj blue
Never thought about it like that before, interesting idea for alternative megas. I think since Wormmon is supposed to be an ancient species of digimon since it can armor evolve then I think Ancient Beetlemon could work as its warp mega, or maybe the other way and have JewelBeemon become Ancient Beetlemon and BanchoStingmon the warp mega.
Also now I like Olgemon as an alternative mega for Shakkumon instead of Vikemon, or my personal preference Goddramon.
So two things; first, it's kind of funny to me how Goddramon (or Goldramon in some cases) used to be the Mega for Veemon. Like it was Veemon to Veedramon then AeroVeedramon and finally Goddramon. We saw this in the card game recently with the "Four Great Dragons" cards where that line is almost shown minus it being Agumon as the rookie in the line for that? But then I kind of thought....what if Goddramon were the mega of that hypotheitcal ExVeemon/Angemon DNA Digivolution? It'd make a lot of sense, an ancient dragon digimon fused with an angel and Goddramon is the final end result of it. Just an odd thing I thought about.
Second, for Armadillomon's Mega, I kind of wouldn't mind if HE ended up as ElDradimon for his mega. It's reptillian and matches up with Armadillomon and Ankylomon's look to many degrees so you'd just need a middle evo there. Armadillomon is linked to an Ancient Species of Digimon so his final Mega being an Ancient City Digimon would sync up pretty well. And it even has golden bits reminiscent of Armadillomon like on his helmet. Once more just a thought I had after you mentioned ElDradimon.
Great video overall and thought provoking as is evident here.
Could willis’ terriermon warp digivolve to Fujinmon?
Idk how it’s spelled, so I’m just gonna go for it…
Shonponmon? Is a pretty cool warp for Biyomon, especially once we notice the leg brace that it has. It’s like Biyomon’s brace evolved with her, still
Olegmon is definitely a perfect pick, I feel like he could even be a better mega for shaquamon than vikemon, tho maybe that's my bias because I am a huge olegmon enjoyer lol
What do you think the digivolutions would be for the double warp digimon from data squad
Point you made about bio-merges got me thinking, presumably that's not a normal evolution. So what would those Digimon megas be without bio-merge?
Very interesting what if! Never saw it like that.
I think DeviTamamon is a good warp evolution for Bakumon/Tapirmon because Bakumon and Digitamamon have the same attack called nightmare syndrome but no adult/champion has it and Devitamamon is a nightmarish Digitamamon.
any idea why they changed digivolution to an extention on the ultimate instead of from the rookie?
I hate to say it, but Hydramon works perfectly for a Palmon warp.
Palmon is already a combo of plant and lizard/dinosaur elements.
If Rosemon is the final version of a beautiful humanoid evo line Palmon warping into monsterous Hydramon feels poetic.