Supercritical Demon Core Oscillator 16 Oscillators in 12 HP
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- Supercritical's Demon Core Oscillator has 16 analog DCO oscillators in just 12HP and with the expander it can even be used as a polyphonic oscillator bank. The Demon Core is great for giant super saw swarm oscillator sounds or more subtle unison.
To make a complete synthesizer with the Demon Core as the oscillators we added a System 80 Jove Filter and used a TC Electronic June 60 chorus pedal to complete the vintage Roland sound.
Demon Core Oscillator available here: www.perfectcir...
June 60 Chorus available here: www.perfectcir...
#PerfectCircuit #Eurorack #Synthesizer
this is the best saw osc hands down. the expander should be included in the price
Oh damn those analog super saws. Giggity. Wholly fuck it’s later in the video godamnnnn son! That’s amazing. Those are 100% the best unison saws I’ve heard on my phone late at night impulse shopping from a TH-cam tube video.
Hahaha! I feel you on them sawz
I never heard of this module until yesterday when I saw it in a shop (Dupertuis Lausanne). Just patched the output directly to a mixer and was immediately blown away. Such a sleeper. I was only planning on buying one other modules so I didn't get this, but it's on my list now.
That pad near the end!
That comment Ave posted! That! That knight that says Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii !!!!!! That dada between the lines! That that!
I use supersaws more often than I'm comfortable admitting. That's why I'm pretty sure that I need this. I've got eight Pittsburgh oscillators, and it still doesn't sound as mean as this thing does.
I love supersaws too. They're great for a lead, bass pad, or drone. I recently got the Cloud Terrarium and that can create an 8 oscillator super- version of saw, square, triangle, sine, and any wavetable osc. There are 2 different oscillator outputs with 8 oscillators each so shit gets massive, fast! I basically love it.
Though the Demon Core looks like a lot of fun. Especially the polyphonic capability.
Once you start getting into that many oscillators, you're probably going to want to start going in the DCO direction. Just managing that many voices sounds like a bit of a pain. I couldn't imagine twice that many.
When I had a Dot Com, it was fun. I'd just leave all eight oscillators plugged into the mixer. They didn't sound cutting like digital supersaws, but they could sound huge and powerful. I was trying to mimic that with the Pittsburghs, but for some reason, it doesn't feel like it gives me the same control as the Dot Com did. I've got the Klavis, Braids, System-1m, etc., but it's not the same as stacking oscillators.
fakshen1973 What is there to manage if you don‘t want individual ADSR per voice?
@@VictorSteiner Tuning. Tracking. Phase cancellation. Hard syncing. Mixing them all to consistently even levels. tweaking them all simultaneously if you want to adjust, say, the pulse width or wave shape.
This just found its way onto my radar.
I use supersaws a lot. I have a sampler where I sampled my DeepMind 12 doing all 12 detuned at once and I use it to play chords. I also have an EssenceFM and I stacked like 18 oscs I think, all detuned, to make one huge supersaw that I can also use for chords. Analogue and digital supersaws have such a different texture, I love them both, and I use them both for different things. This would be a great way to get a supersaw on a eurorack!
so vivid You can almost see it
This is a great little skif combo! Price? Peace Christo 👽🐕🎶🛸☮️😉
Sounds massive
Very cool this is on my wish list. What VCA/mixer are you using with the setup?
sounds sickk
Nice demo!
This thing sounds huge! If only the JUNE-60 came close to the Juno chorus.. I suggest you use the 106-Chorus from Feedback modules! That thing is awesome.
MIKE LEE BIRDS I just finished building mine a couple days ago and the difference that it makes is amazing.
Unfound Very nice! It adds such a nice vibe and the overdrive can be killer.
yeah, the difference in sound is palpable. its a shame that the 106-Chorus only lets you choose between mode 1 and 2, rather than letting you use both at once like the original (and the pedal).
Sorley De Cesare It is indeed. The developer told me he didn’t implement a 1&2 setting because it actually wasn’t meant to work like that on the original Junos.
Buzz buzz, baby.
Yeah I was wondering what’s up with the VCA also
WHOA
what’s responsible for the sound with just 52 seconds left???
what's the vca being used for if the expander has env's/vcas built in? really into that pad at the end and trying to see what's going on. Ive been pausing it and trying to see what's going where. any insight to what's going on and why would be awesome. I'm about to order a rig similar to this from you folks :)
Cool
Sounds so cool it could give massive radiation poisoning
how is the paraphony around 2:00 achieved? - does it have a midi input?
ye theres an expander with midi in
I can’t see where is sequencer?
Inside the Keystep
SUPASAW!!!
you cant control each osc pitch separalely, can you?
From what I've seen and read, you can control up to 4 groups of voices with the expander through CV; or there is a midi connection as well. I'm not sure if the MIDI allows for 16 voice polyphony or if its still limited to 4 groups of oscillators.
need a 300 dollar expander to do anything w it
@@joshk2181 that's a straight ripoff.
@@jackpijjin4088 Save yourself time and money by building equivalent circuits yourself, in that case. 🤣
Can modular systems be Polyphonic?
Yes, there are polyphonic modules like this which is the easy way or you could have multiple versions of modules. There are also ways to use quad modules like the ones that Doepfer makes for making four voice patches.
@@PerfectCircuit And can I trigger them with a MIDI keyboard also? I'm looking to build a synth. Thanks.
@@MrRyancangri some of them you can and others you would need a polyphonic midi to cv converter module. If you want more help picking which modules you need contact our customer service and they can connect you with a product specialist who can answer your questions.
you'll need oscillators with their own volt/oct inputs, and a polyphonic midi converter like Hermod or Polyend's Poly
@@derivativ3 or a polyphonic quantizer like the harmonaig. turn 1 note CV signals into chords.
confused as to how many of those modulars are being used or not??
The module on the left is Maths which is used as an envelope generator and LFO for the filter, then there is the oscillator and midi expander for it. The oscillator is run into the filter which is then run into the VCA, the VCA has a built in envelope generator.
2:20 😍
is there anywhere i can get these on a plugin
Massive and Reaktor from N.I. have these I think or perhaps uHe software.
@@GuitarsAndSynths Dune 3
So you mostly got just one sound out of it 😂
Sounds nice but not $864 nice. For how I use super saws Acid Rain Chainsaw makes more sense for me. Less than a third of the price and only 4hp too. Though I definitely see the attraction of this.
yeah i think i'll have to go with the chainsaw too, makes more sense overall
Yeah it’s a hard buy to justify. What is less so is Assimil8or, which I use to do this. It has 8 voices and you can even layer loop on top in a single audio file.
I end up just recording 1 oscillator or another synth several times and then multi sample. I also do this a crap ton with my OB-6. 6 voice unison X recorded 3 times in a row = 18 voices :) can use the channel cross fade or zones in Assimil8or for spread define control or just do it all by hand as if it’s a wavetable oscillator. But you can loop long samples or record a wave for longer than a note is ever held with randomized start time so you capture a bit more of how analog waves aren’t always perfect copies every period.
Samplers are heavily under represented in rack stuff but the good ones are incredibly useful.
@@ryanpwm I would agree Assimil8or is a great option for anyone looking for polyphony. Plus you get so many additional benefits. I guess it comes down to what each person feels they need to make their rack feel complete. There is a nice selection of samplers now between Assimil8or, Bitbox, Squid Salmple, Nebulae, Sample Drum and Morphagene. Pretty much something for everybody!
@@tbeastie6873 Absolutely! I wouldn't want to try the others, but it would hard for me to go anywhere else. I mean... 0.1ms trigger to output response time. That's insane and the best latency I've seen on any sampler.
An MPC has 10-30 times as much latency. And I havn't seen any other euro manufacturer post any number better than 1ms on a digital sampler.
But idk what else would you expect from the grandfather of personal samplers?
@@ryanpwm The latency on these new modules is pretty amazing. Assimil8or too is only .1-.18ms depending on which output you use.
I dunno what to say ... hmm. it dosen't sound that "big", imo. Waiting for more demos, i guess.
I blame it on the June 60 pedal.
@@impurfekt If you heard any good demos of it feel free to link us up...
Why can't module and pedal demoers understand that they COVER the module with their hands!!!
why do you need to see the knobs moving? just look up a picture.
I use supersaws a lot. I have a sampler where I sampled my DeepMind 12 doing all 12 detuned at once and I use it to play chords. I also have an EssenceFM and I stacked like 18 oscs I think, all detuned, to make one huge supersaw that I can also use for chords. Analogue and digital supersaws have such a different texture, I love them both, and I use them both for different things. This would be a great way to get a supersaw on a eurorack!