What a truly beautifully inspiring new module from Jason, who is continually proving himself to be one of the most musically attuned Eurorack developers in the business!
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I've been using a Harmonaig with multiple other modules, but using a Saich adds a symbiosis that is unparalleled as far as I know. It's a brilliant module from Jason and the creative minds at Instruo--beautiful design too. Jason's overview video is well worth the time.
Amazing! I've been on the hunt for my supersaw module to get that trance, house tones for modular. I found my kick drum nirvana in the Jomox MBase09 MK2 eurorack bass drum module. Excellent review Ben, but darn it my wallet is draining fast if I keep watching your videos hehe.
Man, these guys make some amazing looking modules. Very nice. Completely off topic, but do you think you will be doing a video on the new Qu-Bit Data Bender module?
Man you make it look so simple! Such a deep module, then the harmonaig is another curve I’ve yet to touch, but had interesting patches with no idea what’s really going on
amazing module much THANKS ! was able to grab one at Control just before they vanished. Man Instruo is on F!RE . Ben what stereo filter were you using with the two Saichs (16:39 Dual Saich in stereo) ? SSF Stereo Dipole ? Make Noise QPAS ? Is the I-o47 Multimode Res Filter being used for any specific reason other than it's Instruo too (not a diss) ? I let go of that filter now I am asking too many questions HA. Loved the vid :)
How are you getting the staccato like notes at 13:41? I understand the s&h/stepped random to select notes, but do you have this connected to a vca w/envelope control?
A gorgeous module that I'd love to have in my rack but damn... 600 dollars is just too much for me. I guess I'll grab it on the used market in ten years lol
@@blaythessteuer Yeah... I was so excited watching this vid and then I saw the sticker price... Eurorack is famous for not being easy on the wallet, but this is rough
@@wellurban For what it's worth, I did think about that. However, if I bought 4 vcos, I could also use them independently. So I'm not sure if this is as clean of a comparison as if you'd break down something semi modular like a MOOG Mother 32 or Behringer Neutron.
I guess technically yes! But in the same way that an analogue oscillator being frequency controlled from a quantiser or digital sequencer is a DCO. The pitch controls are all analogue. 1V/Oct summing with shared analogue references which can then be biased via parallel digital controlled offsets. Audio signal path is entirely analogue which was an important factor to me :) The VCAs are digitally controlled, but again in the same way that patching a digital envelope generator module to a VCA is!
@@JHJLIM Yeah it’s a complex term, thank you for your explanation! People often say in general DCO doesn‘t sound as good as analogue VCO but they often don‘t know the differences and the many ways how you can design a dco.
I'm interested in harmonizing and I was thinking if I can make this kind of module, but it already exists :) Have you (or anyone) tried to make intervals by math (cv utility) modules?
"make intervals by maths" just adding voltages together do you mean? Gut reaction ... check out Tonic by Rebel Technology, that might be what you mean. But I aren't sure.
You could use a matrix mixer to serve four channels of quantising. I'd set this up as follows. 4 gate signals into the 4 inputs. 4 outputs to 4 channels of quantising (to set it into a key) 4 quantiser outputs to feed your VCO 1v/oct inputs. Start with all oscillators in (as perfect) sync/tuning as you can. Play with the level of the gates coming into the matrix mixer and adjust what voltage that gate reaches on each channel. As different gates stack up at different voltage levels you'll get new notes forming and if you set the channels to different levels your intervals will spread out and contract back in varying levels. You'd likely need to attenuate the gates prior to the mixer or attenuate the outputs before the quantiser to allow for more control range on the matrix mixer controls. When I think through that and other potential ideas they all need a lot of modules. Which I enjoy, it's modular, uses modules patched up to create signal flows and to solve problems if fantastic. But it does drive home how something like Tonic makes it a lot easier and less HP, even with multiple of them.
@@DivKid I see, use of audio signal bus as CV shows how flexible modular is! I assume Eurorack mixers are DC coupled so I can imagine it will work. Thanks for showing your idea!
Hello, there's no splitting of the voice on the module it's all on a single output. You could approach the output as a multi band thing though and use filtering to split off and re focus certain voices (presuming the pitches were far enough away to get some separately filtered sounds) for distortion and processing. But as it's saw waves there's lots of harmonic overlap between the voices.
There's nothing that can intelligently pull apart a chord tone into it's separate notes. As I saw the harmonics in a saw wave will overlap will all the other notes. Unless Instruo have the option to expand the circuit specifically to output the separate voices. But there's been no mention of that when I've spoke to them.
Saich as in you can’t buy it .How about get this stuff in to stores I love what he dose but come on you can’t buy any of it And these videos are just frustrating because I love his work I waited 2 months to get some of my modules from him and pre paid. Please I just want this and other stuff Jason makes but it is not in stock. I understand the times we are in but now another one that I will only be able to watch videos on. Please don’t get me wrong but expert sleepers. Poly diget etc can’t stock items. Tuesday after 2 months I get my beebo Let’s hope he can get his modules out I want to buy them and I am not alone
Which store(s) have you been looking in? They are out in the world in retailers :) Stores have had the heads up for a few weeks prior to launch that way on launch day they were in stock and available. I have the next wave getting boxed this coming week to follow up in case they have already shifted :) Hope this helps!
First two shops that came up on google have it in stock - elevatorsound.com/product/instruo-saich-eurorack-4-voice-oscillator-module/?gclid=CjwKCAiAqJn9BRB0EiwAJ1SztXPPZWpb3Qtk7WPU3QSDZ9-68WNJZwcm_lL_ntzaYBORXU9ATrh10xoCxGsQAvD_BwE www.signalsounds.com/instruo-saich-eurorack-4-voice-analogue-oscillator-module-saich Others should follow very soon if they didn't order early for the release.
@@instruo thanks I am in the US and the list of the dealers here are out of about everything. I am fairly new to modular but it is a great time to get into it. I have 4 of your modules Arbhar, Ts-l, I-o47 and Traigh. Looking for a Lubadh and now this. I hope you did not take it wrong I love your stuff and I was only looking in the US. I know it is a big word out there but I buy a lot of gear and if I am not buying it direct I like to have some kind for relationship with the seller. And that includes a phoncall sometimes. Great work and I will keep looking Thanks for the reply.
lol. It has 4 analogue vcos and there's also a microcontroller dealing with the tuning and output vca's. roughly ~$134 an oscillator is a pretty good deal.
A good bit more than 60-70 unfortunately... There are some fine tolerances and some tight placement/routings on this one. I actually had to go 3 board construction to better isolate power traces and isolate the cores physically to get the best shared temperature compensation possible. Managed to keep it super skiff friendly though! So it’s not actually any deeper than my other single board layouts. It’s not a cheap module. But there is a lot of precision to the assembly needed and unfortunately supply chain and various production costs have increased in COVID times. This of course having a knock on effect to final pricing after wholesale and distribution margins etc are factored in. It’s thanks to the amazing support to those out there using my modules that I’m able to continue investing my resources into designing and producing wacky oscillators 😀🙏
That's the issue with modular. Unless you're buying Behringer the boutique guys gotta eat. I wish it was cheaper but for it to be profitable the prices are a necessity. Also people tend to forget how much time R&D costs, especially for more unique modules.
The Doepfer A111-4 isn’t much cheaper, from what I can see. That has individual waveform outputs, which would be more flexible in some ways, but it lacks all the VCA/crossfader functionality, the sub waves, and the diatonic Easter egg mode. It’s also larger, and while I don’t mind the Doepfer aesthetic as much as some, the Instruo is definitely a lot prettier! This packs a lot of rich-sounding VCOs and practical functionality into a fairly compact and not-unreasonably priced (by Euro analogue standards) module, so it’s good to have the choice.
Great demo Ben, thanks! Well, isn't this a module to lust after. Great, lush, layered saw sounds, with chords and intervals, and a really clever feature set. Had I unlimited space this would be an instant buy, definately on my future list, love it!
I fell in love with this module when I first saw it but sadly do not have the HP to spare. Then I realized I have a qubit chord with the 4 separate outputs and I just have to be the "smart vca" haha maybe someday I will get a saich but in the meantime this has really opened up how I patch up my chord. Thanks divkid and instruo you guys are my heroes
Thanks Ben for this video and Instruo too... nice sounding module ! Detuning remembers a lot those old Roland keyboards... or a Yamaha CS80 ?? Cheers and stay safe, we need you.
Sounds great! The smart VCA functionality looks really interesting, but there’d still be some extra patching possibilities if it were possible to have individual outs. Do you know whether there’s an expander planned, or whether there’s a header on the back that might support that?
a bit late here but i think jason mentioned in a video recently that he's got a new oscillator in the works that's stereo and "similar to saich" or something along those lines. i think it's supposed to be out as soon as supply chain stuff allows
Hi Jed, of course that would be useful but for each demo I don't set up a specific case that's set to show all of what's happening. If I need to grab say a sample and hold that might be 2 cases stacked on top of each other away from the module. Instead I focus on the module and talk about what's important. So if I was to say "plugging an LFO in here does XYZ" then really what LFO that is isn't important all. Same if I was demoing a filter and said "plugging in an envelope to the CV input" what envelope that is really isn't important and it's all transferable to envelopes people may have. I can totally appreciate seeing everything and following cables aids the learning potential of the videos though. Do ask questions and feedback where you like as I do take it on board. Thanks!
I have the ensemble. Its awesome. This also looks awesome. Quite different, the biggest difference with this is the ability to move diatonically. Ensemble is more related harmonics that maintain the same intervals when moving chromatically. So I use it more as a single complex voice whereas this is a four voice. Both really intelligently laid out modules that both feature smart crossfading between oscillators.
Although youve got me thinking now.. I could change scales in tandem with 1v/oct on ensemble between major/minor/ etc to replicate moving diatonically. Gotta figure out a way to do that but Ill give it a shot. Could provide some interesting results.
@@roboslobonator Yeah this has a few design differences compared to Ensemble that I think I would prefer, but I really love the ensemble oscillator--it is a lot of fun. Haha if I had unlimited money I'd have like 5 different versions of this concept in my rack.
What a truly beautifully inspiring new module from Jason, who is continually proving himself to be one of the most musically attuned Eurorack developers in the business!
Instruo makes really good stuff and I want this and some other of their modules
@@GuitarsAndSynths they are a great company producing modules with such inspiring possibilities!
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I was stupid lost my password. I love any assistance you can offer me!
This might be my favorite channel of all time. I've learned so much and I appreciate every second that I've watched.
Ben is the best 100%
I've been using a Harmonaig with multiple other modules, but using a Saich adds a symbiosis that is unparalleled as far as I know. It's a brilliant module from Jason and the creative minds at Instruo--beautiful design too. Jason's overview video is well worth the time.
Amazing! I've been on the hunt for my supersaw module to get that trance, house tones for modular. I found my kick drum nirvana in the Jomox MBase09 MK2 eurorack bass drum module. Excellent review Ben, but darn it my wallet is draining fast if I keep watching your videos hehe.
Great video Ben! I was wondering how the warming up/stabilizing/tuning was with this module?
Sick demo on this pretty amazing module... want is strong with this one... thnx for the upload!
1:16 Anyone getting the THX noise vibes??
was looking for this comment, you beat me to it!
@@510th Def at 15:40 !
"Easteraig"
Great stuff as usual Ben! Instruo dropping some nice kit recently.
What a video. Congrats! Love to know you know your harmony well! Kudos.
Amazing - I really want this and harmonaig now! :)
I sold my harmonaig and I regret it almost every day =(
@@sneakyfatcat same
Wow, this is a cool module! Very nice.
Man, these guys make some amazing looking modules. Very nice. Completely off topic, but do you think you will be doing a video on the new Qu-Bit Data Bender module?
Just got all three ordered👌🏻🤛🏻❤️
Man you make it look so simple! Such a deep module, then the harmonaig is another curve I’ve yet to touch, but had interesting patches with no idea what’s really going on
amazing module much THANKS ! was able to grab one at Control just before they vanished. Man Instruo is on F!RE . Ben what stereo filter were you using with the two Saichs (16:39 Dual Saich in stereo) ? SSF Stereo Dipole ? Make Noise QPAS ? Is the I-o47 Multimode Res Filter being used for any specific reason other than it's Instruo too (not a diss) ? I let go of that filter now I am asking too many questions HA. Loved the vid :)
Sounds amazing!
Great sound⚡️
Nice module!!
I'd been trying to decide on a sawcore VCO to offset the other more west coastish VCOs in my rack. I think I've decided.
how did you get those visuals on the mordax? is it a newer firmware update? dope vid!
Press and hold the main menu button (with the square) while in oscilloscope mode.
@@RPGould3 the Mordax Data is a really great module wish it could run more than one function at a time however.
@@GuitarsAndSynths I know! I wish it could at least do clocks simultaneously with any other function
this sounds fucking incredible
How are you getting the staccato like notes at 13:41? I understand the s&h/stepped random to select notes, but do you have this connected to a vca w/envelope control?
Excellent video of an excellent module. Btw could you please tell me from which company these cables are from?
Tendrils
A gorgeous module that I'd love to have in my rack but damn... 600 dollars is just too much for me. I guess I'll grab it on the used market in ten years lol
didn’t know this was $600. feels a bit steep to me as well. it’s gorgeous though!
@@blaythessteuer Yeah... I was so excited watching this vid and then I saw the sticker price... Eurorack is famous for not being easy on the wallet, but this is rough
@@nasound42 Not cheap, but for 4 analogue VCOs, plus VCAs and some smart control, it’s not too outrageous.
@@wellurban For what it's worth, I did think about that. However, if I bought 4 vcos, I could also use them independently. So I'm not sure if this is as clean of a comparison as if you'd break down something semi modular like a MOOG Mother 32 or Behringer Neutron.
Ahhhh this thing sounds so good but I have to leave my rack as is for a while.
so is this technically a dco (digital controlled oscillator)?
I guess technically yes!
But in the same way that an analogue oscillator being frequency controlled from a quantiser or digital sequencer is a DCO.
The pitch controls are all analogue. 1V/Oct summing with shared analogue references which can then be biased via parallel digital controlled offsets.
Audio signal path is entirely analogue which was an important factor to me :)
The VCAs are digitally controlled, but again in the same way that patching a digital envelope generator module to a VCA is!
@@JHJLIM Yeah it’s a complex term, thank you for your explanation! People often say in general DCO doesn‘t sound as good as analogue VCO but they often don‘t know the differences and the many ways how you can design a dco.
I'm interested in harmonizing and I was thinking if I can make this kind of module, but it already exists :)
Have you (or anyone) tried to make intervals by math (cv utility) modules?
"make intervals by maths" just adding voltages together do you mean?
Gut reaction ... check out Tonic by Rebel Technology, that might be what you mean. But I aren't sure.
@@DivKid Thanks, and yes that was what I meant. Having multiple of this module to build up chord looks interesting but it will eat a lot of spaces..
You could use a matrix mixer to serve four channels of quantising. I'd set this up as follows.
4 gate signals into the 4 inputs.
4 outputs to 4 channels of quantising (to set it into a key)
4 quantiser outputs to feed your VCO 1v/oct inputs. Start with all oscillators in (as perfect) sync/tuning as you can.
Play with the level of the gates coming into the matrix mixer and adjust what voltage that gate reaches on each channel. As different gates stack up at different voltage levels you'll get new notes forming and if you set the channels to different levels your intervals will spread out and contract back in varying levels.
You'd likely need to attenuate the gates prior to the mixer or attenuate the outputs before the quantiser to allow for more control range on the matrix mixer controls.
When I think through that and other potential ideas they all need a lot of modules. Which I enjoy, it's modular, uses modules patched up to create signal flows and to solve problems if fantastic. But it does drive home how something like Tonic makes it a lot easier and less HP, even with multiple of them.
@@DivKid I see, use of audio signal bus as CV shows how flexible modular is! I assume Eurorack mixers are DC coupled so I can imagine it will work. Thanks for showing your idea!
some mixers are AC coupled, so just check the module descriptions but most are DC coupled.
pacific state @19:07 !
is there any way to seperate the bass/root from the quad VCA, to apply distortion and such only on the bass?
Hello, there's no splitting of the voice on the module it's all on a single output. You could approach the output as a multi band thing though and use filtering to split off and re focus certain voices (presuming the pitches were far enough away to get some separately filtered sounds) for distortion and processing. But as it's saw waves there's lots of harmonic overlap between the voices.
@@DivKid Thanks for the response. I wonder if there is a less destructive option or similar modules that allow to seperate the sub or root voice?
There's nothing that can intelligently pull apart a chord tone into it's separate notes. As I saw the harmonics in a saw wave will overlap will all the other notes.
Unless Instruo have the option to expand the circuit specifically to output the separate voices. But there's been no mention of that when I've spoke to them.
What brand patch cables are these?
After watching this video I need two I guess :O
I would LOVE to get one of these for my system. How is the 1v/o tracking on it?
Holy tits this is nice
Saich as in you can’t buy it .How about get this stuff in to stores
I love what he dose but come on you can’t buy any of it
And these videos are just frustrating because I love his work
I waited 2 months to get some of my modules from him and pre paid.
Please I just want this and other stuff Jason makes but it is not in stock.
I understand the times we are in but now another one that I will only be able to watch videos on.
Please don’t get me wrong but expert sleepers. Poly diget etc can’t stock items. Tuesday after 2 months I get my beebo
Let’s hope he can get his modules out I want to buy them and I am not alone
Which store(s) have you been looking in?
They are out in the world in retailers :)
Stores have had the heads up for a few weeks prior to launch that way on launch day they were in stock and available.
I have the next wave getting boxed this coming week to follow up in case they have already shifted :)
Hope this helps!
First two shops that came up on google have it in stock -
elevatorsound.com/product/instruo-saich-eurorack-4-voice-oscillator-module/?gclid=CjwKCAiAqJn9BRB0EiwAJ1SztXPPZWpb3Qtk7WPU3QSDZ9-68WNJZwcm_lL_ntzaYBORXU9ATrh10xoCxGsQAvD_BwE
www.signalsounds.com/instruo-saich-eurorack-4-voice-analogue-oscillator-module-saich
Others should follow very soon if they didn't order early for the release.
@@instruo thanks I am in the US and the list of the dealers here are out of about everything.
I am fairly new to modular but it is a great time to get into it. I have 4 of your modules Arbhar, Ts-l, I-o47 and Traigh. Looking for a Lubadh and now this.
I hope you did not take it wrong I love your stuff and I was only looking in the US. I know it is a big word out there but I buy a lot of gear and if I am not buying it direct I like to have some kind for relationship with the seller. And that includes a phoncall sometimes.
Great work and I will keep looking
Thanks for the reply.
A bit overpriced, but I guess they have a name now and can charge whatever they want, parts alone I'm guessing it's $60-70
lol. It has 4 analogue vcos and there's also a microcontroller dealing with the tuning and output vca's. roughly ~$134 an oscillator is a pretty good deal.
A good bit more than 60-70 unfortunately...
There are some fine tolerances and some tight placement/routings on this one.
I actually had to go 3 board construction to better isolate power traces and isolate the cores physically to get the best shared temperature compensation possible.
Managed to keep it super skiff friendly though! So it’s not actually any deeper than my other single board layouts.
It’s not a cheap module. But there is a lot of precision to the assembly needed and unfortunately supply chain and various production costs have increased in COVID times. This of course having a knock on effect to final pricing after wholesale and distribution margins etc are factored in.
It’s thanks to the amazing support to those out there using my modules that I’m able to continue investing my resources into designing and producing wacky oscillators 😀🙏
That's the issue with modular. Unless you're buying Behringer the boutique guys gotta eat. I wish it was cheaper but for it to be profitable the prices are a necessity. Also people tend to forget how much time R&D costs, especially for more unique modules.
@@JHJLIM thank you forever Sir.
The Doepfer A111-4 isn’t much cheaper, from what I can see. That has individual waveform outputs, which would be more flexible in some ways, but it lacks all the VCA/crossfader functionality, the sub waves, and the diatonic Easter egg mode. It’s also larger, and while I don’t mind the Doepfer aesthetic as much as some, the Instruo is definitely a lot prettier! This packs a lot of rich-sounding VCOs and practical functionality into a fairly compact and not-unreasonably priced (by Euro analogue standards) module, so it’s good to have the choice.
Great demo Ben, thanks! Well, isn't this a module to lust after. Great, lush, layered saw sounds, with chords and intervals, and a really clever feature set. Had I unlimited space this would be an instant buy, definately on my future list, love it!
I fell in love with this module when I first saw it but sadly do not have the HP to spare. Then I realized I have a qubit chord with the 4 separate outputs and I just have to be the "smart vca" haha maybe someday I will get a saich but in the meantime this has really opened up how I patch up my chord. Thanks divkid and instruo you guys are my heroes
Super cool...Jason is such a good designer.
When you order 808 State - Pacific on Wish: 19:11
Loved the section with the cymbal synthesis. Learned a bunch in about two minutes!
The overall tone reminds me of OB 4 voice. The way the Harmonaig and the Saich interplay is very pleasing indeed. Very clear and inviting demo!
thank you
Woaw!
Absolutely inspiring as always, Ben! Cheers!!
Hi Div! What were you using to sequence the “Obese Bass Wonk” section? Thanks! 🎉
"obese bass wonk" hahaha forgot I called it that. Let me go listen ...
That's a pattern made by the module 'Tuesday' from This Is Not Rocket Science.
Thanks Ben for this video and Instruo too... nice sounding module ! Detuning remembers a lot those old Roland keyboards... or a Yamaha CS80 ?? Cheers and stay safe, we need you.
welp... anyone wants to buy my QuBit Chord V2?
Sounds great! The smart VCA functionality looks really interesting, but there’d still be some extra patching possibilities if it were possible to have individual outs. Do you know whether there’s an expander planned, or whether there’s a header on the back that might support that?
a bit late here but i think jason mentioned in a video recently that he's got a new oscillator in the works that's stereo and "similar to saich" or something along those lines. i think it's supposed to be out as soon as supply chain stuff allows
Ok, this module is pretty darn clever.
This looks silly good...
I can’t tell where all your CV is coming from
Hi Jed, of course that would be useful but for each demo I don't set up a specific case that's set to show all of what's happening. If I need to grab say a sample and hold that might be 2 cases stacked on top of each other away from the module.
Instead I focus on the module and talk about what's important. So if I was to say "plugging an LFO in here does XYZ" then really what LFO that is isn't important all. Same if I was demoing a filter and said "plugging in an envelope to the CV input" what envelope that is really isn't important and it's all transferable to envelopes people may have.
I can totally appreciate seeing everything and following cables aids the learning potential of the videos though. Do ask questions and feedback where you like as I do take it on board. Thanks!
tendrils or these "alienstashe" patch cables? any benefit of either brand?
These right angled cables have the advantage of being various heights. They can go over tendrils which is super handy. Sadly hard to find now
Hmmm. Wonder how this compares to the 4ms ensemble.
I have the ensemble. Its awesome. This also looks awesome. Quite different, the biggest difference with this is the ability to move diatonically. Ensemble is more related harmonics that maintain the same intervals when moving chromatically. So I use it more as a single complex voice whereas this is a four voice. Both really intelligently laid out modules that both feature smart crossfading between oscillators.
Although youve got me thinking now.. I could change scales in tandem with 1v/oct on ensemble between major/minor/ etc to replicate moving diatonically. Gotta figure out a way to do that but Ill give it a shot. Could provide some interesting results.
@@roboslobonator Thanks for that input! More to think about now...
@@roboslobonator Yeah this has a few design differences compared to Ensemble that I think I would prefer, but I really love the ensemble oscillator--it is a lot of fun. Haha if I had unlimited money I'd have like 5 different versions of this concept in my rack.