I assume you just have bad builds/underleveled agents. Even at the start with S11/Koleda/Lucy and not so good S rank disk substats I would get half of that time even when not playing very well.
@@GS_CCC alright... I take 3+ min with well built S11, Koleda, Lucy. S11, M1, core F, all skills 11 except ult 12, steel cushion R2, ideal 1:2 crit rate crit damage ratio (something like 75:150), fire damage disc Lucy, M6, provides maxed 600 atk buff. ofc all agents and wengines level 60. rotation: I stun super quickly with Koleda, buff with Lucy's chain attack, and then wail at it with S11, timing her ult at the end of the stun window (special buff in current shiyu) what am I missing here
@@holleey I got second part 8:43 - 5:46 with Soldier 11, Koleda lucy now. The golden week engine, koleda with the hotpot and lucy using her sig. First day playing on mobile and messed up at the end using Koleda's ult. My crit rate/dmg are worse than yours, I assume you are having you are having trouble in killing the first wave quickly. Won't be able to try properly for a week since I can't use my PC right now, if lucky I can try to see a proper time in the last day of this shiyu rotation. Ouside S11 the disks aren't even 15 just stuff like impact on 6.(S11 is m1 but if you have the timing right its mostly just the energy for more EX) On PC my Piper Caesar Lucy got 0:54 on second half so I assume I could get a way better time with S11 as well.
@@GS_CCC you are right I take pretty long with the mobs in the beginning. I've just tried with Nicole in place of Lucy - then the first wave goes very fast thanks to her crowd control but I still can't beat it in < 3min.
Changing caesar with nicole didint impact the time that much,huh? a 2 second difference.Probably cause your billy is absolutely cracked,but i do see that you change 2pc and and 4 pc sets sometimes to suit the stage better,that would be too much work for me ngl,but it definetally helps
That's the power of good rotations i assume and of course crazy disk sets - woof. I went from getting a solid B-rank clear to nearly getting an S-rank clear just by reading the agents' skills and then using appropriate rotations and not just trying to brute force as usual😅. Thanks to that frontier, i realised just how quickly my anomaly agents can proc disorder - it's weird how i didn't notice before - 15th floor Pompey made my agents start actually paying attention 😅😅.
These animation cancels and character swaps are truly an art, If this dude is f2p he would still have faster clearing than me because how great his skills are
Can you get crazy clear times like this if you use Nekomata instead of Billy? Um about 30 pulls from the free pick and i wanna pick Nekomata from the two agents i don't have
your billy would be stronger with rotary cannon even w/o the extra base atk brimstone gives especially with rotary cannons crit rate substat do the math and you'll see at overclcok 5 ofc
@@flaminski re think your logic brimstone provides less crit rate (cr)correct? 0:54 your billy has 53% cr you gain 22% more with rotary cannon + the 200% atk bonus every 6 seconds with crit hit (ch) (assuming o5), this means 75% cr causing more dmg over a long time now ofc in your use case you need bursts of dmg not longer gains. even then rotary cannon will still provide higher damage if, IF you replace your entire disc drive setup with better crit dmg (cd) rolls, not only that, you can substitute the lack of cr with the rotary cannon so you can focus more on cd no matter how high brimstones substat boosts your atk even with its bonus as in every dodge counter basic atk dash atk you gain 3.5% atk stacking 8 times you still get diminishing returns from it. Remember what i said? high bursts of dmg with rotary cannon every 6s! you get 200% atk bonus on ch and if we look at your clear time 35s! that means 6/12/18/24 seconds in you will already have achieved a higher dmg gain decreasing your clear time by maybe 5 or 7 seconds depending on how high the cd you get. NOW lets do the math Brimstone: brimstone lv 60 overclock 0 Base ATK: 684 Advanced Stat: 12.00% Effect: Hitting an enemy with a Basic Attack, Dash Attack, or Dodge Counter increases the equipper's ATK by 3.5% for 8 seconds, stacking up to 8 times. This effect can trigger once every 0.5 seconds. Given your Billy the Kid's ATK: 3157 ATK: With 8 stacks, the bonus is 3157 × 0.035 × 8 = 884.36 Total ATK with Brimstone Effect: 3157 + 884.36 = 4041.36 Rotary Cannon W-Engine (Level 60, Overclock 5) Base ATK: 594 Crit Rate: 20% Effect: Increases ATK by 12%. Landing a critical hit on an enemy inflicts an additional 200% of ATK as damage, which can trigger once every 6 seconds. Given your Billy the Kid's ATK and Crit Damage: Base ATK with Rotary Cannon: 3157 + 594 = 3751 Additional 12% ATK Bonus: 3751 × 0.12 = 450.12 Total ATK with Rotary Cannon Effect: 3751 + 450.12 = 4201.12 Critical Hits: Brimstone: With 53.8% crit rate and 155.6% crit damage: Crit Damage: 4041.36 × 1.556 = 6293.9 Rotary Cannon: With 53.8% crit rate and 155.6% crit damage: Crit Damage: 4201.12 × 1.556 = 6535.7 Additional Damage per Crit (200% ATK): 4201.12 × 2 = 8402.24 this might be a bit wrong in terms of calculating diminishing returns of atk in zzz but assuming its normal % base w/o diminishing returns rotary cannon is just flat better even w/o considering external factors like caeser or nicoles dmg boost
@@shadowrxmpxge8905 1- My crit rate is 68% which is fine enough (Nicole C6) 2- Why are you comparing R1 Brimstone with R5 Cannon Rotor? I have R5 Brimstone already and R1 is still better than Cannon Rotor R5 3- Why in your Cannon Rotor calculation Billy's attack is exactly like Brimstone attack? this makes me think you're comparing Brimstone R1 vs Brimstone R1 and Cannon Rotor combined
Math is wrong Brimstone still gives more atk than rotor rotor just gave more crit rate which Nicole could provide (math could also be wrong but I'll try) Brimstone Lv. 60 Base ATK - 684 Atk - 30% Overclock 1 - 3.5% Overclock 5 - 7% Upon hitting an enemy with a Basic Attack, Dash Attack, or Dodge Counter, the equipper's ATK increases by 3.5/7% for 8s, stacking up to 8 times. This effect can trigger once every 0.5s. The duration of each stack is calculated separately. 4 seconds to reach its max stat being 28%/56% increase on Atk Billy Atk: 2473 With Brimstone: 3157 Overclock 5 With the buffs: 3157 x 56% = 1767.92 3157 + 1767.92 = 4924.92 4924.92 x 0.30 = 1477.476 4924.92 + 1477.476 = 6402.396 Final atk = 6402.396 Overclock 1 3157 x 28% = 883.96 4040.96 x 0.30 = 1212.288 4040.96 x 0.30 = 5253.248 Final atk: 5253.248 Cannon Rotor Lv. 60 Base ATK - 594 CRIT Rate - 20% Overclock - I ~ 7.5% increwas every 8 seconds Overclock - V ~ 12% every 6 seconds Increases Atk by 7.5%/12%. Attacks that land a critical hit on an enemy will inflict an additional 200% of ATK as DMG. This effect can trigger once every 8s. Billy Atk: 1731.1 With Rotor: 2573 2573 x 0.12 (the passive buff) = 308.76 2573 + 308.76 = 2881.76 2881.76 x 1.556 = 4484.01856 Final atk: 4484.01856
@@shadowrxmpxge8905 also even if brimstone is at overclock 1 3157 x 28% = 883.96 4040.96 x 0.30 = 1212.288 4040.96 x 0.30 = 5253.248 Final atk: 5253.248 Rotor is worse than Brime even if rotor is at overclock 5 while Brime is as 1 Math also could be wrong but Brime is just better in general
I believe it was called dodge cancel on his billy advance technique guide a quick way to dish out some minor damage without getting you out off position
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I'm speechless.. at this point I might be just a skill issue anyhow your gameplay helped me a lot clearing this shiyu! 🔥
When ur so fast that it looks like all three of em just onfield ganking up on the boss
THIS BILLY JUST KEEPS GETTING STRONGER
Once you see 0:38 it is a gg and game over 😅
One of my fav Billy lines.
Stuck at 2:25min clear with S11, Lighter, and Lucy, but you finished this in 35secs with Billy, Qingyi, and Nicole. Insane game play as always
I assume you just have bad builds/underleveled agents.
Even at the start with S11/Koleda/Lucy and not so good S rank disk substats I would get half of that time even when not playing very well.
@ S11 skills are probably under leveled but I don’t wanna invest too much into a unit Im planning to bench. Gotta work on my rotations tho
@@GS_CCC alright...
I take 3+ min with well built S11, Koleda, Lucy.
S11, M1, core F, all skills 11 except ult 12, steel cushion R2, ideal 1:2 crit rate crit damage ratio (something like 75:150), fire damage disc
Lucy, M6, provides maxed 600 atk buff.
ofc all agents and wengines level 60.
rotation: I stun super quickly with Koleda, buff with Lucy's chain attack, and then wail at it with S11, timing her ult at the end of the stun window (special buff in current shiyu)
what am I missing here
@@holleey I got second part 8:43 - 5:46 with Soldier 11, Koleda lucy now.
The golden week engine, koleda with the hotpot and lucy using her sig.
First day playing on mobile and messed up at the end using Koleda's ult.
My crit rate/dmg are worse than yours, I assume you are having you are having trouble in killing the first wave quickly.
Won't be able to try properly for a week since I can't use my PC right now, if lucky I can try to see a proper time in the last day of this shiyu rotation.
Ouside S11 the disks aren't even 15 just stuff like impact on 6.(S11 is m1 but if you have the timing right its mostly just the energy for more EX)
On PC my Piper Caesar Lucy got 0:54 on second half so I assume I could get a way better time with S11 as well.
@@GS_CCC you are right I take pretty long with the mobs in the beginning. I've just tried with Nicole in place of Lucy - then the first wave goes very fast thanks to her crowd control but I still can't beat it in < 3min.
Never gets old
Sick gameplay as always!!! Love your content bro
A pretty good line-up idea while the Thracian was stunned. Nice!
Changing caesar with nicole didint impact the time that much,huh? a 2 second difference.Probably cause your billy is absolutely cracked,but i do see that you change 2pc and and 4 pc sets sometimes to suit the stage better,that would be too much work for me ngl,but it definetally helps
Your Billy is stronger than my Miyabi💀
damn your substats are goated
W-w- WHAT HOW
Clean one shot, nice!🔥👍
That's the power of good rotations i assume and of course crazy disk sets - woof.
I went from getting a solid B-rank clear to nearly getting an S-rank clear just by reading the agents' skills and then using appropriate rotations and not just trying to brute force as usual😅.
Thanks to that frontier, i realised just how quickly my anomaly agents can proc disorder - it's weird how i didn't notice before - 15th floor Pompey made my agents start actually paying attention 😅😅.
I would love to reach such a level of skill 💀
damn, i wish i had disk stat like yours
I can only do shit 45sec with M0 Zhu Yuan + Qingyi. Nice video btw.
just how much more optimized can you make this?
I was able to shave 35 seconds off my time earlier, I'm still at 2m04s
Are you using the same line up? if yes then that means your Agents aren't invested enough
@@flaminski nah using Billy though, still trying to get decent disks
best billy
These animation cancels and character swaps are truly an art, If this dude is f2p he would still have faster clearing than me because how great his skills are
will zhuyuan's w-engine do? it gives out 50/190 for my billy build tho :x idk if it would clear under 40s like your clip.. great clear btw
Yes ZY sig is a good option, you can check my older videos from 2 months ago, I used to use ZY sig before obtaining Brimstone
My ellen team only 58 sec...
Which should i prioritize first on Qingyi, M1 or signature? I've been using her with Zhu yuan since her release
For fast stun M1, for more dmg her sig
Can you get crazy clear times like this if you use Nekomata instead of Billy?
Um about 30 pulls from the free pick and i wanna pick Nekomata from the two agents i don't have
It's always possible to achive under a min run with most Agents, there is a video of Ben as dps clearing it in 40s
Wood 4set vs hormon 4set
which one is better?
Do you split on field time with other Agents? if yes then go Hormone
@flaminski thx
Can you try Billy, Caesar, Lighter?
Sure but Lighter is M6 lol
@flaminski holy shit lmao,
How was your second phase first?
I cut the 1st phase with a video editing software
@flaminski that makes sense, I'm just confused why your shiyu timer (S->A->B) is on the second sector but had max time left
@Franklin_Johanessan Because I cleared phase one in 33s 0:47
54/156 Billy? Am I hallucinating you having close to 300 CD before?
230%-ish was my highest when he's wearing ZY sig
7th frontier bosses are weak, but so tanky. Can't get an S-rank clear.
I'm done, going home, gonna get my grinding on YEAHH!
Will you pull for c6w5 Miyabi ?
I don't think so, I've been hooked with Wuwa recently so I think I'm gonna spend my money there
your billy would be stronger with rotary cannon even w/o the extra base atk brimstone gives especially with rotary cannons crit rate substat do the math and you'll see at overclcok 5 ofc
Do you mean Cannon Rotor? I have it at R4, it's no where near effective, gold engines always better than purple ones
@@flaminski re think your logic brimstone provides less crit rate (cr)correct? 0:54 your billy has 53% cr you gain 22% more with rotary cannon + the 200% atk bonus every 6 seconds with crit hit (ch) (assuming o5), this means 75% cr causing more dmg over a long time now ofc in your use case you need bursts of dmg not longer gains. even then rotary cannon will still provide higher damage if, IF you replace your entire disc drive setup with better crit dmg (cd) rolls, not only that, you can substitute the lack of cr with the rotary cannon so you can focus more on cd no matter how high brimstones substat boosts your atk even with its bonus as in every dodge counter basic atk dash atk you gain 3.5% atk stacking 8 times you still get diminishing returns from it. Remember what i said? high bursts of dmg with rotary cannon every 6s! you get 200% atk bonus on ch and if we look at your clear time 35s! that means 6/12/18/24 seconds in you will already have achieved a higher dmg gain decreasing your clear time by maybe 5 or 7 seconds depending on how high the cd you get. NOW lets do the math Brimstone:
brimstone lv 60 overclock 0 Base ATK: 684
Advanced Stat: 12.00%
Effect: Hitting an enemy with a Basic Attack, Dash Attack, or Dodge Counter increases the equipper's ATK by 3.5% for 8 seconds, stacking up to 8 times. This effect can trigger once every 0.5 seconds.
Given your Billy the Kid's ATK:
3157 ATK: With 8 stacks, the bonus is
3157
×
0.035
×
8
=
884.36
Total ATK with Brimstone Effect:
3157
+
884.36
=
4041.36
Rotary Cannon W-Engine (Level 60, Overclock 5)
Base ATK: 594
Crit Rate: 20%
Effect: Increases ATK by 12%. Landing a critical hit on an enemy inflicts an additional 200% of ATK as damage, which can trigger once every 6 seconds.
Given your Billy the Kid's ATK and Crit Damage:
Base ATK with Rotary Cannon:
3157
+
594
=
3751
Additional 12% ATK Bonus:
3751
×
0.12
=
450.12
Total ATK with Rotary Cannon Effect:
3751
+
450.12
=
4201.12
Critical Hits:
Brimstone: With 53.8% crit rate and 155.6% crit damage:
Crit Damage:
4041.36
×
1.556
=
6293.9
Rotary Cannon: With 53.8% crit rate and 155.6% crit damage:
Crit Damage:
4201.12
×
1.556
=
6535.7
Additional Damage per Crit (200% ATK):
4201.12
×
2
=
8402.24
this might be a bit wrong in terms of calculating diminishing returns of atk in zzz but assuming its normal % base w/o diminishing returns rotary cannon is just flat better even w/o considering external factors like caeser or nicoles dmg boost
@@shadowrxmpxge8905
1- My crit rate is 68% which is fine enough (Nicole C6)
2- Why are you comparing R1 Brimstone with R5 Cannon Rotor? I have R5 Brimstone already and R1 is still better than Cannon Rotor R5
3- Why in your Cannon Rotor calculation Billy's attack is exactly like Brimstone attack? this makes me think you're comparing Brimstone R1 vs Brimstone R1 and Cannon Rotor combined
Math is wrong Brimstone still gives more atk than rotor rotor just gave more crit rate which Nicole could provide (math could also be wrong but I'll try)
Brimstone Lv. 60
Base ATK - 684
Atk - 30%
Overclock 1 - 3.5%
Overclock 5 - 7%
Upon hitting an enemy with a Basic Attack, Dash Attack, or Dodge Counter, the equipper's ATK increases by 3.5/7% for 8s, stacking up to 8 times. This effect can trigger once every 0.5s. The duration of each stack is calculated separately.
4 seconds to reach its max stat being 28%/56% increase on Atk
Billy Atk: 2473
With Brimstone: 3157
Overclock 5
With the buffs:
3157 x 56% = 1767.92
3157 + 1767.92 = 4924.92
4924.92 x 0.30 = 1477.476
4924.92 + 1477.476 = 6402.396
Final atk = 6402.396
Overclock 1
3157 x 28% = 883.96
4040.96 x 0.30 = 1212.288
4040.96 x 0.30 = 5253.248
Final atk: 5253.248
Cannon Rotor Lv. 60
Base ATK - 594
CRIT Rate - 20%
Overclock - I ~ 7.5% increwas every 8 seconds
Overclock - V ~ 12% every 6 seconds
Increases Atk by 7.5%/12%. Attacks that land a critical hit on an enemy will inflict an additional 200% of ATK as DMG. This effect can trigger once every 8s.
Billy Atk: 1731.1
With Rotor: 2573
2573 x 0.12 (the passive buff) = 308.76
2573 + 308.76 = 2881.76
2881.76 x 1.556 = 4484.01856
Final atk: 4484.01856
@@shadowrxmpxge8905 also even if brimstone is at overclock 1
3157 x 28% = 883.96
4040.96 x 0.30 = 1212.288
4040.96 x 0.30 = 5253.248
Final atk: 5253.248
Rotor is worse than Brime even if rotor is at overclock 5 while Brime is as 1
Math also could be wrong but Brime is just better in general
0:31 what does the dash attack help in exactly? Wouldn't it be more convenient to just go straight to basic attack?
It's faster and won't push me back further, also an extra hit, if you see it not fast enough then I did it wrong
I believe it was called dodge cancel on his billy advance technique guide a quick way to dish out some minor damage without getting you out off position
@@Sticky-Ozneyup and to also cancel billy's backwards "flipping" while getting in crouching shot state