There's a window of opportunity for Inverted Neil to go through the collapsed tunnel. After Forward Neil leaves in the truck, and before the explosion. Inverted Neil would also be somewhere on the battle field before and after the explosion, seperate from the Blue Team Helicopter. So just like the Oslo aiport with The Protagonist. There are 3 versions of Neil at the same place. Blue Team Neil is the youngest. Truck Neil is the second. Gate Neil is the oldest.
Three or four depending on if Neil is born now or in the future. One (potentially born/living/young) now One at the Opera One helping with the truck One dying at the gate Blue team Neil and truck Neil are “the same” in a sense that be aborted that midway.
So we had 3 neils at the same time. One in jeep going to get protag out, one shooting at him at the start of battle, one who opens the door and gets shot.
Don't forget the two Neils at the opera that's happening at the same time 👀. One going backwards and one going forwards again after the opera to meet Protagonist for the "first" time. So 5 Neil's? 😂😂😂 Too many Neil's in this mission
Three or four depending on if Neil is born now or in the future. One (potentially born/living/young) now One at the Opera One helping with the truck One dying at the gate Blue team Neil and truck Neil are “the same” in a sense that be aborted that midway.
If Protagonist's organization (Is the org just called TENET? been a while since I saw the film) are training Cadet's, they're probably got officers reading about Neil's maneuvers for a long time.
If Protagonist's organization (Is the org just called TENET? been a while since I saw the film) got a training academy, they're probably got officers reading and teaching about Neil's maneuvers for a long time.
My theory is that from the normal time perspective, Neil's body had been at the hypocenter floor since the beginning of time, then it fell once the un-construction of the place was happening and the only time and moment it reversed back to life was on the specific day he got shot or un-shot. So from the normal time perspective, once the moment he was shot, which was absorbing the bullet, he went back to life and fled backwards, because this was him in the future, he was yet to do that. But from the inverted perspective, after saying goodbye to the Protagonist at the top of the hypocenter, it was the other way around. He un-absorbed the bullet, and it went through his head back to Volkov's gun once he closed the gate again.
Literally trying to wrap my head around this but I can't. Once i think ive figured it out, i'm met with more questions which confuses the hell out of me. We are seeing an inverted Neil getting shot, but in TPs perspective he is reanimating. So when they arrive at the gate hes there on the floor dead. He has already saved them at this point in the future. Have an inverted team then dropped in to retrieve his body? If his body was always there then Sator would realise what had happened, a body also just can't materialise from thin air, it would cause annihilation, Neil would have told Ives that he will sacrifice himself and the tunnel needs to be cleared and his body needs to be retrieved too, it would be the only way to make sure they succeed in their mission. So an inverted Neil runs in, gets killed , his body is then retreived by another inverted team so that Volkov never sees it. Neil would have told already explained this was going to happen. A team clears the tunnel so that Neil can then run in. He dies, as time is inverted. As he lies there inverted his body is retrieved by another team that then go back and complete the rest of the mission.
the winds of entropy would have reverted Neil's corpse, pretty much telefragging and annihilating it. but in normal time perspective, it looks like the corpse materialized out of nowhere until Neil gets shot.
Four. Assuming Neil timeline starts here. He could be born in the future. Otherwise just three. One at opera and two here. One at the gate and one with the truck. The truck Neil and “blue team” Neil is the “same”. He disbanded mid fight to warn TP.
No when he was on the helicopter that's him coming into the mission. unless you're talking about the ending after he pulls them out of the tunnel then yes.
@@GranPuba yes after they split up the Algorithm, P cries that Neil has to go back and take the bullet, so Neil leaves (?) on a helicopter when he could have just gone back down to the turnstile and inverted right there? But instead he leaves on a helicopter, inverts, comes back? But then the tunnel is already blasted at that point. But somehow he still is able to get in after they’ve already been locked inside
Ok. I think my main issue is resolved by the conclusion that Volkov is using an inverted pistol, even though he isn't inverted. This explains where the bullet goes after Neil gets shot. Neil gets shot in reverse and Volkov catches the bullet. If it was a normal pistol that means that the bullet would have been stuck in Neil from the moment they inverted and then gone out the front of their head (from their perspective). Which is where most of my confusion was coming from. There was a gunshot, but I couldn't tell where the bullet went afterwards. So I think it has to be inverted.
The door at its earliest stage was locked by the guy planting the bomb. Keep in mind that this means that when Neil inverts himself to open the gate in forward time, that means that he has to close the gate and lock it, as that's what its initial stage always was. He can't change that it was locked at its earliest stage, therefore he must lock it while inverted. After he inverts, his timeline is that he makes his way into the tunnel goes through the open gate, lets the Protagonist and the bomber fight (reversed through his perspective), lets the Protagonist through the open gate, closes and locks it (as it was locked in its earliest state and Neil must have locked it for the timeline of the gate to be consistent), and then gets shot, sacrificing his life for the mission. In normal time, this means that the Protagonist sees Neil get unshot by the normal bullet, unlocks and opens the gate, lets him and the bomber fight, then reverse-runs through the now-open gate and out of the tunnel, where he will keep reverse-running until he gets to the turnstile. A theory as to how he got through the blocked tunnel is that you can see open spots in the ceiling of the tunnel, and if not that, that the Blue Team unblocked the tunnel for Neil.
@@BaeYeouThat last but of what you said, could be what I was thinking, too. Remember when the Protagonist and Ives saw that they were sealed off from their way out when they tripped the wire that was planted by Volkov, when we saw the Protagonist and Ives continue to run to where the algorithm was, we see that there are shafts on top of the ceiling of the entrance. They're also colored Blue, wow. So that probably was where Neil went through in order to reach the hypocenter and make the inverted sacrifice.
Christopher Nolan Didn’t Write That Invert Neil/Max Sacrifice Himself to Open the Door. Anyway. Christopher Nolan Planning to Make Prequel of TENET. But We Don’t Know
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There's a window of opportunity for Inverted Neil to go through the collapsed tunnel. After Forward Neil leaves in the truck, and before the explosion.
Inverted Neil would also be somewhere on the battle field before and after the explosion, seperate from the Blue Team Helicopter. So just like the Oslo aiport with The Protagonist. There are 3 versions of Neil at the same place.
Blue Team Neil is the youngest.
Truck Neil is the second.
Gate Neil is the oldest.
Three or four depending on if Neil is born now or in the future.
One (potentially born/living/young) now
One at the Opera
One helping with the truck
One dying at the gate
Blue team Neil and truck Neil are “the same” in a sense that be aborted that midway.
This is basically Neil's movie form Protagonist's perspective.
So we had 3 neils at the same time. One in jeep going to get protag out, one shooting at him at the start of battle, one who opens the door and gets shot.
Don't forget the two Neils at the opera that's happening at the same time 👀.
One going backwards and one going forwards again after the opera to meet Protagonist for the "first" time.
So 5 Neil's? 😂😂😂 Too many Neil's in this mission
Three or four depending on if Neil is born now or in the future.
One (potentially born/living/young) now
One at the Opera
One helping with the truck
One dying at the gate
Blue team Neil and truck Neil are “the same” in a sense that be aborted that midway.
@@feelgood13305 Neils on that same day, the 14th.
If Protagonist's organization (Is the org just called TENET? been a while since I saw the film) are training Cadet's, they're probably got officers reading about Neil's maneuvers for a long time.
If Protagonist's organization (Is the org just called TENET? been a while since I saw the film) got a training academy, they're probably got officers reading and teaching about Neil's maneuvers for a long time.
My theory is that from the normal time perspective, Neil's body had been at the hypocenter floor since the beginning of time, then it fell once the un-construction of the place was happening and the only time and moment it reversed back to life was on the specific day he got shot or un-shot.
So from the normal time perspective, once the moment he was shot, which was absorbing the bullet, he went back to life and fled backwards, because this was him in the future, he was yet to do that. But from the inverted perspective, after saying goodbye to the Protagonist at the top of the hypocenter, it was the other way around. He un-absorbed the bullet, and it went through his head back to Volkov's gun once he closed the gate again.
Literally trying to wrap my head around this but I can't. Once i think ive figured it out, i'm met with more questions which confuses the hell out of me. We are seeing an inverted Neil getting shot, but in TPs perspective he is reanimating. So when they arrive at the gate hes there on the floor dead. He has already saved them at this point in the future. Have an inverted team then dropped in to retrieve his body? If his body was always there then Sator would realise what had happened, a body also just can't materialise from thin air, it would cause annihilation, Neil would have told Ives that he will sacrifice himself and the tunnel needs to be cleared and his body needs to be retrieved too, it would be the only way to make sure they succeed in their mission. So an inverted Neil runs in, gets killed , his body is then retreived by another inverted team so that Volkov never sees it. Neil would have told already explained this was going to happen. A team clears the tunnel so that Neil can then run in. He dies, as time is inverted. As he lies there inverted his body is retrieved by another team that then go back and complete the rest of the mission.
the winds of entropy would have reverted Neil's corpse, pretty much telefragging and annihilating it. but in normal time perspective, it looks like the corpse materialized out of nowhere until Neil gets shot.
Thank u so much, really helped me to understand this ending, again thank u?😇
Christopher Nolan: takes 5 years to do the storyboarding
Quint: does it in a few months
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There is 5 Neil at this Time . One at Opera , 3 Here and 1 at Normal time.
Four. Assuming Neil timeline starts here. He could be born in the future. Otherwise just three.
One at opera and two here.
One at the gate and one with the truck.
The truck Neil and “blue team” Neil is the “same”. He disbanded mid fight to warn TP.
so he left on the helicopter, inverted, came back and then ran back in through the tunnel that was blasted?
No when he was on the helicopter that's him coming into the mission. unless you're talking about the ending after he pulls them out of the tunnel then yes.
@@GranPuba yes after they split up the Algorithm, P cries that Neil has to go back and take the bullet, so Neil leaves (?) on a helicopter when he could have just gone back down to the turnstile and inverted right there? But instead he leaves on a helicopter, inverts, comes back? But then the tunnel is already blasted at that point. But somehow he still is able to get in after they’ve already been locked inside
@@gray.crawford that's because he inverted, went back far enough where he could get into the tunnel.
also remember that he did that because he inverted and went back to the Opera to save him at the Opera which was at the same time as that battle
@@GranPuba interesting but he ran out (in from his perspective) after they did
0:45 An inverted bomb exploded in normal dust and the dust worked inverted but it couldn't because it's normal
Yes it could
We've seen countless normal objects acting inverted because they've been exposed to inverted forces
Neil holds the door open??
Yes
Ok. I think my main issue is resolved by the conclusion that Volkov is using an inverted pistol, even though he isn't inverted. This explains where the bullet goes after Neil gets shot. Neil gets shot in reverse and Volkov catches the bullet. If it was a normal pistol that means that the bullet would have been stuck in Neil from the moment they inverted and then gone out the front of their head (from their perspective). Which is where most of my confusion was coming from. There was a gunshot, but I couldn't tell where the bullet went afterwards. So I think it has to be inverted.
Its extremely sad
Unique!
So the Door was Always Open?
The door at its earliest stage was locked by the guy planting the bomb. Keep in mind that this means that when Neil inverts himself to open the gate in forward time, that means that he has to close the gate and lock it, as that's what its initial stage always was. He can't change that it was locked at its earliest stage, therefore he must lock it while inverted.
After he inverts, his timeline is that he makes his way into the tunnel goes through the open gate, lets the Protagonist and the bomber fight (reversed through his perspective), lets the Protagonist through the open gate, closes and locks it (as it was locked in its earliest state and Neil must have locked it for the timeline of the gate to be consistent), and then gets shot, sacrificing his life for the mission.
In normal time, this means that the Protagonist sees Neil get unshot by the normal bullet, unlocks and opens the gate, lets him and the bomber fight, then reverse-runs through the now-open gate and out of the tunnel, where he will keep reverse-running until he gets to the turnstile. A theory as to how he got through the blocked tunnel is that you can see open spots in the ceiling of the tunnel, and if not that, that the Blue Team unblocked the tunnel for Neil.
@@BaeYeouThat last but of what you said, could be what I was thinking, too.
Remember when the Protagonist and Ives saw that they were sealed off from their way out when they tripped the wire that was planted by Volkov, when we saw the Protagonist and Ives continue to run to where the algorithm was, we see that there are shafts on top of the ceiling of the entrance. They're also colored Blue, wow. So that probably was where Neil went through in order to reach the hypocenter and make the inverted sacrifice.
what happened to today's upload ?
Is it connected to the Opera Opening scene in Time(not space)?
yep, thats why neil left in the helicopter at the end. To invert himself and save neil at at opera house before coming back to stalk to die
Why Neil go to the helicopter..if he can go to the tunnel.. inverted.. And get the shot open the door....
opera house first then this
Still don't understand bro
What don't you understand it's all right there in the video. It's all one temporal Pinsir.
@@GranPuba I don't understand where (and when) does the inverted bullet that kills Neil come from. Was it on his head his whole life?
@@enriquesanchez662 The bullet get created in his head some minutes before the shot.
@@ThisIsWhereTheFunBegins8588 That means He cannot Function
@@SamRichardson1990 Yes, but this is how it works
Christopher Nolan Didn’t Write That Invert Neil/Max Sacrifice Himself to Open the Door. Anyway. Christopher Nolan Planning to Make Prequel of TENET. But We Don’t Know