Quick look at the 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. There is so much technology in this vehicle that I can go through, but I tried to keep it as compressed as possible.
TH-cam suggested that I might want to watch this video. I'm in England. And I already have a PHEV. i have had it for nearly 3 years. It was the most expensive car I have ever bought, but it has been the cheapest running costs of any car I have ever owned. When I got mine, the UK dealers were offering a 24 hour test drive. I was lucky and got a 3 day test drive. I needed to deliver and setup some equipment to 3 different customers over those 3 days, so I filled the petrol tank of the loan car, because that was about how much fuel I would normally use. After those 3 days of work and family outings, I took it back with more than 3/4 a tank. I liked it so much that I did the finance paperwork when I returned the car. In my previous car, I would fill it with 50 litres of premium about once a week. Now I plug the PHEV in each evening, the timer is set to charge on cheap rate electric from 1am. In the summer, I put in 40 litres of regular every 3 to 5 weeks. In the winter, I put in 40 litres of regular every 10 to 20 days. The petrol engine runs to produce extra electricity to power the electric cabin heater. Last year, and the year before, I joined some friends for a long weekend camping at the LeMans 24 hour race in France. It is 450 miles there, which is an early start when it is just getting light, drive all day at "motorway speeds", get to the destination while there is still enough light to setup camp. Then on the Monday morning, pack up camp, load into cars, and drive 450 miles home. last year that was about 100 litres of standard unleaded in the UK and E85 in France to do those 900 miles. The drivers of other petrol and diesel cars in our convoy didn't want to say how much they spent on fuel! After 900 miles, without being able to plug in, the trip computer said I had done 40% of the journey on electric. Which is a lot more than the 30 miles of pure electric range. A few weeks ago, I did a family day out to deliver one of my children (and luggage) to university. Started with a full battery and full tank of petrol, 350 miles there and back, get home with empty battery, empty petrol. Plug in overnight, go to work in the morning, get petrol on the way home from work in the evening. You need to try it for yourself (over a couple of days) because what it does in real life, doesn't match what you would expect when you look at the figures on paper. www.fuelly.com/car/mitsubishi/outlander/2015/richardofb/368465
Kyle, this is the best in depth walkthrough of the 2018 Outlander Phev SE I've come across. Well done on the brilliant, engaging, and informative presentation. Looking forward to picking ours up next week!! 🎉
I did a test drive of this one. A GT trim model, in the city & highway. I would say this is really a great car or even a perfect car for me. The response of the speed is so fast & less effort of driving on the road going on steep hill on automatic mode. I think that would be a series mode with Electric assisted by petrol engine. Thanks for the review.
Just bought a 2018 PHEV Outlander and loving it so far. My wife drives it and it's perfect for her. She has about a 20 miles roundtrip commute so she hasn't used any gas for commuting. Comes home with 4 miles of electric range left. FYI, we have a Volt, a Leaf, an i3 and had a BMW Active E so we have lots of miles and laugh at range anxiety. The Outlander PHEV is a great vehicle. Love driving green!
I'm very happy you are enjoying your Outlander PHEV. They are incredible vehicles and have been very popular here. They are drawing lots of attention and I have heard nothing but great feedback from people who have purchased them.
Got one recently in Markham; a SE Touring in Metallic Grey. Brilliant vehicle - capable in Canadian weather, and still avg. 6.5L/100km on a 55km round trip to work daily in -10 deg c temperatures. That is almost unbelievable in an AWD SUV coming in at nearly 2 tons.
Levski Levov it is listed as 1895kg curb, which is quite close. The regular Outlander V6 GT only comes in at 1610kg, so the PHEV is quite hefty in comparison.
Not exactly new to the Mitsubishi family - father owned a 2009 Outlander XLS V6 for 9 years already. Solid vehicle & highly reliable - only real issue was it was a bit of a gas hog with the 3.0L V6 , which is why instead of another V6 GT, went with the PHEV.
Trades46 You're just at the right time of having it. I kept waiting this SUV for nearly 2 yrs due to always cancelled until I bought the GT year 2016, going to work I'm getting close to 23-24mpg (9.8-10 l/100km) but coming back home is 20mpg (11.8l/100km). Anyway enjoy your new PHEV!!!
Hi Kyle, I’m getting a Outlander PHEV next month with a heated windscreen. You mentioned you can set heated screens to come on with remote heating startup, but I can’t see those options on the app, how do you do it? Cheers
When you open the app on your smartphone, Choose the climate tab (where you would pre heat or pre cool the vehicle) and you will see a Symbol for Defrost. That will allow a timer to be set to defrost your windshield in the winter time and you can set timers for that like you would the heat or A/C. Hope this helps
I'm in New Liskeard and interested, but was hoping the 2.4L would be available in Canada in 2019. Maybe not until 2020? Seems like nothing else compares to this for the capability and price. But I have questions... So, what happens with -40 temperatures? No garage. Need the glass to clear up in the morning. Does it need to preheat the whole time it's plugged in? Would I be running on the gas engine all winter for my 10 minute commutes due to cold? Because I could go for months on EV if I don't leave town, can the engine run on premium (no ethenol) gas? There's no spare tire. Are those run flat tires or is there a tire repair kit? What size wheels/tires are available for winter?
There's no indication about the bigger 2.4L making it's way to Canada, but who knows what the future brings. In colder weather, the battery has a warming system that runs while the vehicle is plugged in and charging so you can still usually start up on electric without the gas engine turning on. There are also timers you can set to pre-heat and defrost the windshield, or pre-cool the car. While it's plugged in, it uses the electricity from the house, not the drive battery to do this. If it is too cold then the gas engine may turn on to prevent damage to components in the vehicle or the drive battery. You should still be able to use electric only for a good portion of the winter, however if you are demanding more from the vehicle that the drive battery can safely produce, then you will use some fuel. You can put premium gas in, but regular unleaded is all it needs. Every 90 days, the vehicle will make you burn 15L of fuel so the gas doesn't go bad. The PHEV comes with a tire repair kit. We just recently found a 16" steel rim that can fit over the electric parking brake so you can get 16" winter tires for the vehicle. Check with us to see what rim to get as some don't fit over the parking brake. Or you can go up to an 18" rim which is what comes with the vehicle.
I would say it would be best to have a seat in one and see how it feels. We've had very tall people fit nicely in them but it all depends on body type. If you have longer legs, it may be difficult, however if you are more upper body then it could be fine. Best to see for yourself.
A/C is electrically operated and the unit is, unsurprisingly, manufactured by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, the same company that makes residential & industrial condensers. It draws power from the main drive battery, and won't use the gasoline engine unless battery charge state is low.
In terms of gas savings, it would take a long time to recoup that money. I'm seeing new non PHEV outlanders going for 22k. It would take over 6 years for people gain that money back from gas savings.
In Canada, gas Outlander have a starting MSRP of $28,998 + Freight. Price difference between a gas Outlander and PHEV now that the Government rebate has dropped to $7000 is around $9000. With gas savings and lower maintenance costs, you're right, it will take anywhere from 5-6 years to recoup the difference in price. However, in that 5-6 years, you'll have created much less Co2 emissions, haven't had to worry about price inflation at the pumps, enjoyed a more premium feeling ride, and from what I'm hearing from current owners, it actually convinces you to change your driving habits. PHEV owners are less rushed, driving more efficiently, which makes for a better overall driving experience.
it has a small petrol tank (45 litres) but it will tell you that you are about to run out when there is still 5 to 10 litres left averaging around 60mph, with gentle acceleration and letting it re-gen instead of brakes, with temperature between 15 and 25 centigrade, so only slight heating or cooling, around 400 miles. averaging 90mph, with occasional tropical rain, and 30 centigrade, with air condition on, 250 miles when I got mine, the adverts claimed more than 500 miles, which might be possible at 40 to 50 mph, at 20 centigrade, so no heater or a/c high speed and extremes of temperature make a big difference to range, but surprisingly the number of people and amount of weight carried don't make much difference.
For that price it should have at least a 24 kw/h battery to compete with other plugin-hybrids. I test drove and with the small battery it is very sluggish in all EV mode.
I believe that the Outlander is priced very well for what the vehicle offers. Plug in Hybrids have a battery range between 7Kwh-18Kwh, so the 12Kwh battery that comes equipped in the vehicles puts us in line with the competition. While some would like to have a bit of a bigger battery (18Kwh), it would also raise the price of the vehicle, and the weight to make it less efficient and price us out of the competitive position we are in. The size of the battery doesn't determine the torque or the power of the vehicle, it's the twin electric motors that supply the propulsion to the wheels, so it doesn't matter how big the battery is, the vehicle would still perform the same. Most people find that it has great performance and off the line power.
Tesla is a different style of vehicle. It is meant to run strictly on Battery alone, therefore would require a bigger battery. Would be very embarrassing to only be able to travel 35km per charge with no gas engine to assist. Also, with the exception of the model 3, Tesla starts at $80,000+. Would be like comparing a Mirage to an Evo.
Tesla is overrated garbage. Even the Outlander feels significantly better built inside & out. Not to mention Tesla only warranties their 'oh so great' batteries for "only" 8 years while Mitsubishi guarantees them for 10 years. Take your fanboying elsewhere.
Even using Tesla’s magic hope numbers, a kWH of battery is $150, but in the real world with all the ancillary equipment $300 is where it is on the low end. So adding battery capacity to 40 kWH adds $8,000 to the cost, and those are US$, not loonies. Now you have a much more expensive vehicle that now weighs another 800 lbs. BTW the largest PHEV battery is currently the Volt or Clarity at 18 kWH
If you Tesla is empty it is just dead, won't move, done. You need to recharge it for a few hours and then you can go again. This goes on and on on petrol if you need it to, but will do the average daily commute fully on electricity. You can't compare the two. Regarding build quality it is ridiculous that Tesla gets away with the lack of quality of the interior and panel gaps or misalignment of panels given that they charge quite a lot of money for their cars. Any Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, etc looks 1000x better and is 1000x better built. They are nice cars, don't get me wrong, but you can't compare them with other cars.
TH-cam suggested that I might want to watch this video.
I'm in England. And I already have a PHEV. i have had it for nearly 3 years.
It was the most expensive car I have ever bought, but it has been the cheapest running costs of any car I have ever owned.
When I got mine, the UK dealers were offering a 24 hour test drive. I was lucky and got a 3 day test drive.
I needed to deliver and setup some equipment to 3 different customers over those 3 days, so I filled the petrol tank of the loan car, because that was about how much fuel I would normally use.
After those 3 days of work and family outings, I took it back with more than 3/4 a tank.
I liked it so much that I did the finance paperwork when I returned the car.
In my previous car, I would fill it with 50 litres of premium about once a week.
Now I plug the PHEV in each evening, the timer is set to charge on cheap rate electric from 1am.
In the summer, I put in 40 litres of regular every 3 to 5 weeks.
In the winter, I put in 40 litres of regular every 10 to 20 days. The petrol engine runs to produce extra electricity to power the electric cabin heater.
Last year, and the year before, I joined some friends for a long weekend camping at the LeMans 24 hour race in France.
It is 450 miles there, which is an early start when it is just getting light, drive all day at "motorway speeds", get to the destination while there is still enough light to setup camp. Then on the Monday morning, pack up camp, load into cars, and drive 450 miles home.
last year that was about 100 litres of standard unleaded in the UK and E85 in France to do those 900 miles.
The drivers of other petrol and diesel cars in our convoy didn't want to say how much they spent on fuel!
After 900 miles, without being able to plug in, the trip computer said I had done 40% of the journey on electric.
Which is a lot more than the 30 miles of pure electric range.
A few weeks ago, I did a family day out to deliver one of my children (and luggage) to university.
Started with a full battery and full tank of petrol, 350 miles there and back, get home with empty battery, empty petrol.
Plug in overnight, go to work in the morning, get petrol on the way home from work in the evening.
You need to try it for yourself (over a couple of days) because what it does in real life, doesn't match what you would expect when you look at the figures on paper.
www.fuelly.com/car/mitsubishi/outlander/2015/richardofb/368465
Kyle, this is the best in depth walkthrough of the 2018 Outlander Phev SE I've come across.
Well done on the brilliant, engaging, and informative presentation.
Looking forward to picking ours up next week!! 🎉
I did a test drive of this one. A GT trim model, in the city & highway. I would say this is really a great car or even a perfect car for me. The response of the speed is so fast & less effort of driving on the road going on steep hill on automatic mode. I think that would be a series mode with Electric assisted by petrol engine. Thanks for the review.
Just bought a 2018 PHEV Outlander and loving it so far. My wife drives it and it's perfect for her. She has about a 20 miles roundtrip commute so she hasn't used any gas for commuting. Comes home with 4 miles of electric range left. FYI, we have a Volt, a Leaf, an i3 and had a BMW Active E so we have lots of miles and laugh at range anxiety. The Outlander PHEV is a great vehicle. Love driving green!
I'm very happy you are enjoying your Outlander PHEV. They are incredible vehicles and have been very popular here. They are drawing lots of attention and I have heard nothing but great feedback from people who have purchased them.
Got one recently in Markham; a SE Touring in Metallic Grey. Brilliant vehicle - capable in Canadian weather, and still avg. 6.5L/100km on a 55km round trip to work daily in -10 deg c temperatures. That is almost unbelievable in an AWD SUV coming in at nearly 2 tons.
This car is 1810kg, no 2 tons :-)
Levski Levov it is listed as 1895kg curb, which is quite close.
The regular Outlander V6 GT only comes in at 1610kg, so the PHEV is quite hefty in comparison.
Hi trade46, I have seen some of your comments about Mitsu before welcome to the world of mitsubishi!!! lol...
Not exactly new to the Mitsubishi family - father owned a 2009 Outlander XLS V6 for 9 years already. Solid vehicle & highly reliable - only real issue was it was a bit of a gas hog with the 3.0L V6 , which is why instead of another V6 GT, went with the PHEV.
Trades46 You're just at the right time of having it. I kept waiting this SUV for nearly 2 yrs due to always cancelled until I bought the GT year 2016, going to work I'm getting close to 23-24mpg (9.8-10 l/100km) but coming back home is 20mpg (11.8l/100km). Anyway enjoy your new PHEV!!!
Hi Kyle, I’m getting a Outlander PHEV next month with a heated windscreen. You mentioned you can set heated screens to come on with remote heating startup, but I can’t see those options on the app, how do you do it? Cheers
When you open the app on your smartphone, Choose the climate tab (where you would pre heat or pre cool the vehicle) and you will see a Symbol for Defrost. That will allow a timer to be set to defrost your windshield in the winter time and you can set timers for that like you would the heat or A/C. Hope this helps
I'm in New Liskeard and interested, but was hoping the 2.4L would be available in Canada in 2019. Maybe not until 2020? Seems like nothing else compares to this for the capability and price. But I have questions...
So, what happens with -40 temperatures? No garage. Need the glass to clear up in the morning. Does it need to preheat the whole time it's plugged in? Would I be running on the gas engine all winter for my 10 minute commutes due to cold?
Because I could go for months on EV if I don't leave town, can the engine run on premium (no ethenol) gas?
There's no spare tire. Are those run flat tires or is there a tire repair kit? What size wheels/tires are available for winter?
There's no indication about the bigger 2.4L making it's way to Canada, but who knows what the future brings.
In colder weather, the battery has a warming system that runs while the vehicle is plugged in and charging so you can still usually start up on electric without the gas engine turning on. There are also timers you can set to pre-heat and defrost the windshield, or pre-cool the car. While it's plugged in, it uses the electricity from the house, not the drive battery to do this. If it is too cold then the gas engine may turn on to prevent damage to components in the vehicle or the drive battery. You should still be able to use electric only for a good portion of the winter, however if you are demanding more from the vehicle that the drive battery can safely produce, then you will use some fuel.
You can put premium gas in, but regular unleaded is all it needs. Every 90 days, the vehicle will make you burn 15L of fuel so the gas doesn't go bad.
The PHEV comes with a tire repair kit. We just recently found a 16" steel rim that can fit over the electric parking brake so you can get 16" winter tires for the vehicle. Check with us to see what rim to get as some don't fit over the parking brake. Or you can go up to an 18" rim which is what comes with the vehicle.
Has Mitsubishi fixed the s/w problem in the BMU yet?
Any comments on the legroom of the driver's side? My friend is 6'5" and the center console has always been a problem with legroom.
I would say it would be best to have a seat in one and see how it feels. We've had very tall people fit nicely in them but it all depends on body type. If you have longer legs, it may be difficult, however if you are more upper body then it could be fine. Best to see for yourself.
Kyle Lagace at North Bay Mitsubishi he tried it, too small unfortunately. Lots of headroom, but the center console does him on every time.
We will all be driving plugin hybrids very soon
Mitsubishi Outlander Plug-in Hybrid has saved Mitsubishi from bankruptcy.
Will the gas engine turn on for AC like it does for heating?
A/C is electrically operated and the unit is, unsurprisingly, manufactured by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, the same company that makes residential & industrial condensers. It draws power from the main drive battery, and won't use the gasoline engine unless battery charge state is low.
Thank you
In terms of gas savings, it would take a long time to recoup that money. I'm seeing new non PHEV outlanders going for 22k. It would take over 6 years for people gain that money back from gas savings.
In Canada, gas Outlander have a starting MSRP of $28,998 + Freight. Price difference between a gas Outlander and PHEV now that the Government rebate has dropped to $7000 is around $9000. With gas savings and lower maintenance costs, you're right, it will take anywhere from 5-6 years to recoup the difference in price. However, in that 5-6 years, you'll have created much less Co2 emissions, haven't had to worry about price inflation at the pumps, enjoyed a more premium feeling ride, and from what I'm hearing from current owners, it actually convinces you to change your driving habits. PHEV owners are less rushed, driving more efficiently, which makes for a better overall driving experience.
Would love to know what the total range is with a full tank of gas and full charge.
it has a small petrol tank (45 litres) but it will tell you that you are about to run out when there is still 5 to 10 litres left
averaging around 60mph, with gentle acceleration and letting it re-gen instead of brakes, with temperature between 15 and 25 centigrade, so only slight heating or cooling, around 400 miles.
averaging 90mph, with occasional tropical rain, and 30 centigrade, with air condition on, 250 miles
when I got mine, the adverts claimed more than 500 miles, which might be possible at 40 to 50 mph, at 20 centigrade, so no heater or a/c
high speed and extremes of temperature make a big difference to range, but surprisingly the number of people and amount of weight carried don't make much difference.
750km on both full tank and battery
@@charlesshihusa9720 thank you very much.
For that price it should have at least a 24 kw/h battery to compete with other plugin-hybrids. I test drove and with the small battery it is very sluggish in all EV mode.
I believe that the Outlander is priced very well for what the vehicle offers.
Plug in Hybrids have a battery range between 7Kwh-18Kwh, so the 12Kwh battery that comes equipped in the vehicles puts us in line with the competition. While some would like to have a bit of a bigger battery (18Kwh), it would also raise the price of the vehicle, and the weight to make it less efficient and price us out of the competitive position we are in.
The size of the battery doesn't determine the torque or the power of the vehicle, it's the twin electric motors that supply the propulsion to the wheels, so it doesn't matter how big the battery is, the vehicle would still perform the same. Most people find that it has great performance and off the line power.
Tesla begins 60/70/80/90/100 kWh battery mitshubisi 12kwh oops least needed 45kwh battery
Tesla is a different style of vehicle. It is meant to run strictly on Battery alone, therefore would require a bigger battery. Would be very embarrassing to only be able to travel 35km per charge with no gas engine to assist. Also, with the exception of the model 3, Tesla starts at $80,000+. Would be like comparing a Mirage to an Evo.
Tesla is overrated garbage. Even the Outlander feels significantly better built inside & out. Not to mention Tesla only warranties their 'oh so great' batteries for "only" 8 years while Mitsubishi guarantees them for 10 years. Take your fanboying elsewhere.
Even using Tesla’s magic hope numbers, a kWH of battery is $150, but in the real world with all the ancillary equipment $300 is where it is on the low end. So adding battery capacity to 40 kWH adds $8,000 to the cost, and those are US$, not loonies. Now you have a much more expensive vehicle that now weighs another 800 lbs. BTW the largest PHEV battery is currently the Volt or Clarity at 18 kWH
If you Tesla is empty it is just dead, won't move, done. You need to recharge it for a few hours and then you can go again. This goes on and on on petrol if you need it to, but will do the average daily commute fully on electricity. You can't compare the two. Regarding build quality it is ridiculous that Tesla gets away with the lack of quality of the interior and panel gaps or misalignment of panels given that they charge quite a lot of money for their cars. Any Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, etc looks 1000x better and is 1000x better built. They are nice cars, don't get me wrong, but you can't compare them with other cars.