Am Kenyan and it's TRUE, the kikuyu have a high carbohydrate diet compared to the maasai. Though things are changing now and the maasai eat some carbohydrates not as much though. And the maasai rarely go to the hospital, they rarely get sick and when sick its herbs from the forest.
Well, if you live in the USA good luck. However the powerful pharmaceutical corporations will just lobby the government and the FDA will outlaw these magic herbs as unsafe for human consumption.
I'm a bodybuilder (35 years of training) and been on carnivore for 5 weeks now. I've noticed no reduction in power and a huge increase in endurance. It's amazing! :D
I'm 72 and switched to PKD diet (meat, fat, and small amount of greens) 3 months ago. Previous 15 years that WFPB vegan nonsense. First time in dog years I'm gaining strength and visible muscle from working out. I do only compound, multi-joint lifts and ballistics using sandbag. It's all good though, moving weight vs gravity ;)
the real benefits start after several months and even years but success is comes with a slow and steady transition away from consumption of carbohydrates and allowing your body to guide you over a long term to make the proper decisions not dogma. the transition is actually a very long term situation, there are so many factors involved, many of which are not addressed by anyone for a variety of reasons, this is why you MUST become the captain of your own ship and learn how to understand and recognize all the myriad of factors that are effecting your being. The key is discernment and discernment requires a calm and clear mind which cannot be accieved while consuming neurotoxins like sugar and pharmaceuticals.
I'm a 38 yo runner. Experimenting with 48 days of Keto so far, meat & egg based with amazing results and recovery. Humans really do have a natural diet and it has nothing to do with the so called food pyramid.
@@geoffreylevens9045 don't know what your abreviations are exactly. I thank God I was informed @17 in '77 about the poly veg nonsense. All the media DROVE the lies. Haven't been to a doctor since for noninjury treatment. At 62 vitals remain @55, -110/58. People remark my appearance when I have my shirt off from heat. I believe, using the biblical term, doctrines of demons, from vedism, as there's no history for veggies prior to the introduction of the idea/phil/theo/ logies. Didn't eschew the processed carbs until Atkins. I wasn't overweight, just loved the method. Every few months, holidays, I break the regimen. Still love pizza! Day resistance, next weighted cardio, 6 days/wk. Don't really care about lifespan. Healthspan!
I’m an avid cyclist who’s carnivore. I never take on carbs before or during long rides. All I bring along is water and electrolytes. It’s amazing how the body needs no carbs
Paul, I had severe arthritis for years until I gave up dairy. I had never eaten cheese but I gave up the rest and the arthritis disappeared almost immediately. Not the end of the story however. I couldn't believe that fat would do the damage, so, I reintroduced butter to cook with and it did no harm, and then I began using cream in my coffee. That did no harm either. So I think it has to be something in the milk. The caseine or the lactose, or both. Either way, they're not in cream.
He is so smart, articulate and humble. I have no idea what Dr Mason's age is but he makes me feel motherly. If I were his mother I would be bragging about my smart and wonderful son all the time. LOL Thanks for this interview, Judy, you are a great interviewer. There was so much good and helpful information here.
Thank you Dr Mason. You and low carb down under led me to start a carnivore diet 1 year ago. I've lost 65lbs, my radiculopathy is gone, my ibs has abated, I have greater mental clarity, and my athletic performance is improving.
Mate, i really think you have a gift for laying all this info out for the layman like myself, and i almost always add a bit of nuance ( or the occasional bombshell) to my knowledge whenever you release a clip. Keep on keeping on, because i know this stuff takes up your time but its worth it because you really are helping !
This was wonderfully educational. I’m stepping my foot in carnivore. Been Keto 4 yrs. Have Hashimoto’s, no gallbladder and genetically high cholesterol (hyperbetalipoproteinemia) my A1C was 5.9 last testing. Don’t eat sugar or many carbs at that time. It’s been lower and it’s been higher over the past 7 yrs. It’s difficult to come off what we’ve been told so many years by Drs. I’m 56, I feel great. I’m tired of docs letting me know I’m sick! 😂
Yes, I know for sure higher cholesterol numbers gives you longevity. My nana always had very high cholesterol numbers and the dr always told her that's not a good sign and that she has to lower them thru diet. She lived until 96 years old and died of old age, not some disease. She went to bed and didn't wake up the next day. So, yes, I don't think that high colesterol numbers has anithing to do with bad health, otherwise her cholesterol numbers would made her die alot younger and maybe from a terrible disease...
Slowly went leaner with the meat over the first year of fixing diabetes, and the longer I went, the more I ate every day and did wind up raising blood sugar significantly for a couple of months until I went back to fattier meat. Blood sugar dropped right back when I ate the fatty meat. Dr. Bikman had a great video on protein in the presence of even small amounts of sugar having a higher affect on blood sugar. Thank you again, always love listening to Dr. Mason.
Late reply, but here's the logic. High protein, low fat diets will eventually convert proteins into sugar because proteins can't be used directly for energy. Fatter meats give the fats which can be used directly for energy or converted to ketones. So as Dr Cywes often says, the fat in the diet protects the proteins.
Yeah... Into keto a couple of years. It's true. Excess protein stimulates insulin resistance. Blood glucose not being broken down. High fat is the way. 70% fat in your meal is the best way. Last week got my bloods back. Everything within the normal range. 2 years keto/Carnivore. Lost 25 kgs. Male. 66 yo.
I'm three weeks in animal based keto diet. Your interwiew was great. You basically asked every single question about the way of eating I'm interested in that popped in to my head. So thankful. Btw. Dr. Mason has extremally broad knowledge of the subject. He is great. Thank you both ! 👍
I include dairy grass-fed eggs butters alittle cheese and full fat yogurt all pasture-raised on my animal based diet and I do very well with that. My family has grown up on farms since the 1800s eating animal meats and dairy. So I may be more adapted to eating it and infact I feel better including some dairy whole foods. And my blood work is excellent since kicking the SAD diet that I strayed onto after leaving the farm, have since got back on my early life diet of farm raised animal based foods diet that I grew up with. I'm actually raising my own cows and chickens now. All pasture-raised no grains, give them different hays including alfalfa timothy and grass hays through the winter. Have got my health back since getting back to a healthy animal foods based diet.
As usual, Paul provides a ton of useful information. He is intelligent, well informed and seems like a really nice guy. So glad that he is spreading information about the carnivore diet. Thanks
It's amazing how much Doctor Mason knows! I've been going through many of his interviews and lectures and I'm so thrilled to learn so much from him! Been using a carnivore nutrition for 2 years and never felt better! Thanks for all you do and teach! God bless.
Dr. Mason, thanks so much for your explanation about LDL and how it goes bad. I've watched several of your interviews and lectures on youtube. I would like to get my GP to watch. I try to talk to him about my carnivore diet, he says "everything in moderation". He's a little rotund and understands carbs are bad, but he is Lebanese and says food is a big part of their culture. One reason he gives for not promoting low carb is he knows his patients will not comply. Most of them are Middle Eastern. Of course, I only see the sick ones in his waiting room, but I know a low carb lifestyle would help them more than a doctor visit. :)
Great interview! There is so much debunked information in this video I had to listen to it twice. I learned a lot. Dr. Mason and Judy are both my top carnivore resources on TH-cam.
Jesus Christ. All of this information is trash and anyone that picks up carnivore is going to quit it within 20 years because they either couldn’t take it anymore or they die. It’s not healthy. The general consensus of science easily shows that. This random dumbass brainwashing video doesn’t change the fact that carnivore cuts your life short and doesn’t even make it a good one. Stop.
Great discussion. Paul explains everything so clearly and logical for everyone to understand, and the science based evidence makes his discussions well worth listening to. Thank you Dr Paul! 👏
Such good practical questions for people wanting a better understanding of a carnivore type diet. Paul Masons answers are simple and scientific. Some of the big questions I had were wonderfully answered here. Thankyou.
You are the best. In research as well as in communication! Since I follow your reseach is obviously the state of the art in the carnivore scene, always giving the right impulses to the community! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and keeping going 👍👍👍👍👍
My doctor, just this mo=nth, expressed concern about my LDL level. I told her I'm not worried about that. She asked why. So? It was handy that I could explain. 🙂 I'm sure she'll try to get me to consider a statin next visit.
after switching to a carnivore diet my blood glucose levels dropped a LOT. Before I was struggling to keep them within the acceptable range for Type 2 diabetes patients, now (after 3 months) they're on the low end of pre-diabetes people. Purely grass fed beef is pretty much impossible to get here, at least nothing is labelled as such. Then again, most cattle here is fed on grass or silage for most of the year, not on grains and soy paste.
Interesting video. I live outside of Toronto. Many farmers raise their cattle on grass however during the 5 months that we don’t have fresh grass the farmers feed their cattle hay. The farmer that takes the hay from my property stores the hay in round bales outside. I have opened a bale and it’s very dusty with some moulds. This is what his cattle eat all winter while in calf. Do you believe this has any affect on the quality of the meat.
I don't know, but that's the way they do it just about everywhere. Not many are still using square bales. However, if you peel off the outer layer, it stays fresher the further in you go.
Interesting about uric acid increase until fully adapted. This may be why people assume that keto is bad for Gout. One just needs to continue until fully adapted until uric acid levels decrease, and with continued progress, those with Gout will notice reduction in Gout symptoms and flares.
@@robertkacala check out Dr Perlmutter and his new book, "Drop Acid." He has his own channel and has been interviewed by others. He says there is a home test available, I believe.
It is also nicer when comparing what we eat to look at totally meat vs no meat at all. Everyone in between brings confounding factors. I get told all the time that being on a particular diet for several years proves that it is healthy. I do not believe that. Many of us survive eating food that all camps agree is very bad for us for many years of our lives and seem ok until the day we are not. Lesson is keep learning and listening to your body and do not be afraid that you were wrong about something. We all are at one time or another.
I cannot get over Paul's weird camera, I literally can't stop laughing. It's like I'm looking into an alternate dimension where Paul is actually a very pear shaped man.
Judy thank you for addressing absolutely every doubt or question that ever arises with regard to the health of long term carnivore. It was so good to hear them all discussed in one place!
Great material, but Dr Paul has the weirdest camera angle in this. It's like a fisheye lens centered on his head that makes him look very wide on the bottom. He's a very thin guy when standing, but it doesn't look it in this vid for some reason.
Thank you to both of you. just sharing experience : I did a 40h fast last week , as my appetite changed on carnivore. I just naturally wasn't interested in eating. My blood glucose stayed around 70 the first day.The next morning I got up at 45 and stayed around 50 before my first meal. I felt completly normal and energised, went for a walk and were not really hungry. I ate before leaving the house for the day just in case. Then my blood glucose slowly raised to 75 after the first meal (around lunch), 84 after the second (dinner), then the next day 95 after morning meal, 100 after afternoon meal and 109 after a late small meal (I was hungry again)... then it seams to stabilise around 95 for me went I eat "regularly" , 2 or 3 meals a day. Carnivore has been and still is a very gradual journey for me with three step up two steps down...
1. Stop eating multiple times a day. Only eat when you are actually hungry and when you do eat, eat until you are comfortably stuffed. Then don't eat again until you are hungry. And if a bowl of plain ground beef doesn't sound appetizing, you aren't hungry. 2. Eat fattier cuts of meat. Ribeye Steak is king. If you aren't eating enough fat, the high protein levels can cause higher blood sugar. If you are already eating ribeyes, try adding some butter or other animal fats and see how that affects you.
I tried to up my fat and i got bloated, tired, depressed and started to be sweaty at night and have oedema in my leggs. I can't do any dairy not even butter. I Just ate beef fat. I became hungrier and not satisfied. Still craving as much proteins. Tried enzymes and bile no good results. Then trying to go back to where i started to feel good is hard. I am still much hungrier and have trouble not over eating (these used to be big troubles of mine and i was so happy to have gotten rid of). I know i over eat because i get tired... I think i am Just not there yet. I will just accept my blood glucose in the 90 with the energie and good mood i feel. I feel good when i fast but then i lose controle of my eating... Makes me fail... making my own sausages with fatty beef, lung, heart.. 200g per meals that's my hunger. And sometimes i am not hungry so i don't eat. I started to finally get my belly out of looking pregnant range until i decided to add fasting and more fat. Seems like my body doesn't like me deciding to push à little. I just have to follow the steps.
Dr. Paul I love your health teaching. And have watched many of your videos. Unless I missed it I have never heard you discuss the carnivore diet and men's prostate. Do you find that this is a good diet to keep the prostate healthy? Would love to see you make a video about this. Continue success to you sir and keep providing great content.
Hi Dr. Mason, I really enjoy your talks and interviews. It’s very informative! I have a question that may sound dumb to you, but here it goes. When we are in ketosis and burning our own fat, are we getting omega 3 fatty acids from that?
Hello Dr. Paul Manson. About oils...if you are going to cook and you have to choose a fat...wich one you choose: olive oil or butter/ghee? Thanks for sharing all your knowledge.
When Judy Cho says people are eating too much, (at around 1:00 mark) Please specify what ‘too much’ is. Too vague. This concept of ‘eating too much’ I have seen in many videos. Maybe show what that really is. Also, what is too much for a 5 foot 100 lb female may not be too much for a female who is 5’9”. How would ‘too much’ be calculated? Satiation? Or the inability to be satiated? (A defect in become satiated)? Would exercise be involved in determining what eating ‘too much’? Type of exercise? Doesn’t exercise increase appetite? I believe ‘too much’ is more complicated than just calories or even volume of food. Does this tie in to certain people who have trouble with fat loss, compared to others who show dramatic fat loss? Could it be ‘blame the patient’ scenario, and not taking into account an underlying hormonal issue that has not been discovered or addressed?
It sounds like Paul is stating that unless the omega-6 has oxidized before you eat it, it’s not an issue. That would mean non-oxidized linoleic acids from seed oils (if you can get any that aren’t oxidized) would not oxidize within the body. Did I misunderstand? Because that is contrary to everything I’ve understood before. Even the small amounts of omega-6 in meat will oxidize in the body, thus proving oxidative stress is just a part of life and emphasizing the importance of antioxidants from real foods.
Non-oxidized linoleic may be okay in theory, but in reality, it oxidizes in vivo. Even if it's not already spoiled, consumption should be minimized IMO. Also the n-6 content in grain fed ruminants is still tiny compared to chicken and pork. Grain fed beef is okay. I don't touch corn/soy fed chicken or pork unless it is very very lean.
Great information, thanks so much for sharing this. I believe I was functionally diabetic, though my diagnosis was merely pre-diabetes. I've been following a predominantly carnivore diet for a couple years now, and my A1C is at normal levels, my weight has come down dramatically. I'm working on reducing visceral fat now, but one thing you said was very interesting to me - how some diabetics had undiagosed autoimune diabetes. At my last physical, my fasting insulin number was very low. None of my physicians seem to be concerned about it, but I do have a personal and family history of autoimmune issues. How does one test for and diagnose an autoimmune diabetic condition?
Wish you guys had discussed the studies showing the increase in the quantities of linoleic acid in American adipose biopsies over the last 100 years. See Chris Knobbes work. My understanding is excess consumption of linoleic acids directly leads to excess Linoleic acid incorporated into cell walls and mitochondria walls and cardiolipin complexes. All of this infiltration has negative consequences independent of oxidation and end products from linoleic acid as you rightly point out. The goal should be to restore the omega 6 levels in our body tissues to the levels we had in 1850. The easiest way? Eat as they did. i.e. eat no mono-gastrics or eggs unless fed ancestrally $$$$
I thought that the problem with grain fed chicken and pork is that linoleic acid from the feed accumulates in the animal's fat to levels similar to linoleic acid in many seed oils. Consuming excess linoleic... even from animal sources... will cause problems because the linoleic acid will be metabolized; many of the metabolites (such as 4-HNE) are highly toxic. Also, excess linoleic acid from any source will become incorporated into cell membranes and will oxidize in vivo. Example oxidized LDL is very dangerous and can lead to arteriosclerosis. LDL will only oxidize with the inclusion of linoleic acid in the cell membrane.
In regards to the higher nutrient density in grass fed cows... Were the sample sizes taken done in porportion to the cows bodyweight? This would be important to know because the cows could have the same levels of these nutrients, but if one cow was bigger it could be distributed into more tissue, and I would wager to say that he grain finished ones were bigger. So in that situation you just have to eat more of a grain finished cow to get the higher nutrient levels. Which is great in the situation where the total cost of the higher quantity of grain finished meat is still lower than the total cost of the lower quantity of grass finished meat.
If you can find cheaper parts of beef of higher quality it would not be a drastic increase in price. For example suet or heart is very cheap in general. I paid PLN 160 for 20kg of suet from my local farmer recently. That's 180 000 calories.
In defense of tea-- I believe the antinutrients in tea only inhibit the absorption of non-heme iron, not heme iron. I have been on the carnivore diet for 6 years now, and I drink tea every day, throughout the day. I was anemic for years before dropping all plants from my diet. After about 2 months on carnivore, all my iron markers came into the normal range and have stayed there.
Did you have issues with low red blood cell production as well as iron levels? I’ve been carnivore for 6 weeks, still very fatigued. Did your energy improve?
Well, this this might only apply to you, and no one else, and proving that idea is different from “ i think this so it must be true for everyone”. Most folks benefit from the anti inflammatory- antioxidative benefits of black/ green tea
The tannins in tea causes the depletion of vitamin B1.... vitamin B1 deficiency causes all kinds of problems with the digestive and neurological system.
Paul mason only has 30k subs? This must be a new channel for him. Ppl subscribe! Also, I love two intelligent low carb experts discussing and clarifying what can be a tricky subject, especially since the establishment is against us and spouting their mis info and lies. I have watched vegan “experts” and the videos come off as infomercials that try to dazzle the uninformed with buzzwords….bring the science like Dr. Mason does
Hello Dr. Paul Manson. I wonder if you could explain, from a metabolic and digestive point of view it's not a good idea to mix in the same dishe: meat and carbohydrates (pasta, potatoes). What reactions happens in the stomach, the intestines...wich are the damages. Thank you.
😊😊I have noticed that vegetarians, who say they don’t eat animals e.g. ruminants because they don’t agree with killing animals to eat don’t take into account the small animals,insects and soil microbes that are totally destroyed by growing crops. Grazing animals on good pasture actually improve the soil.........modern crop growing means that land is not fallowed in rotation like it used to be......it’s sprayed with chemicals......in order to grow the same crop year after year.......loaded over and over with chemical fertilisers and insect sprays ...which all gets into the product and is ultimately consumed.......and people wonder why they are constantly sick..........dogs and cats are carnivores........this gunk they pass off as dog and cat food i# killing our pets their whole life... carnivores in zoos are NOT fed high carb dry food. because it would kill them.........keep on keeping on guys. 🥰🥰🥰
I have little against vegetarians as they do at least care for their animals. It's the vegans I'm dead against. They, (given the chance) will kill off the whole planet.
Thank you Dr Mason! Please kindly fix the sound quality as I personally find it rather poor. In this particular one Judy's sound is much superior. I specifically went back to check on other videos in this channel and all of them are like that.
I learned something interesting. Seed oils are apparently not sold in Africa. If that is the case then they get all their fat from meat and milk, which isn't in a great amount like it is here.
I like listening to Paul and feel like I trust him. But I also don't want to end up in an echo chamber. I'm sure there are lots of scientists who can quote research papers. How many of us pause the video to independently verify what he's said? I'd love to see him debate the subjects with someone else so that I can reassure myself about the issues.
So Omega 6 fatty acids aren't inherently bad, it is only when they're oxidized, such as when they are in bottled seed oil form, that they become unhealthy? I just heard Dr. Robert Lustig say the same thing in a Dr. Rangan Chatterjee video. So......I can start eating chicken and pork again?! I'd avoided both since fowl and swine are generally grain fed and their digestive tracts are such that they wind up high in Omega 6s...
Yes. Gold standard is pasture raised and grass fed beef, but might be expensive depending on where you live. Avoid fructose containing sugars and seed oils. You will be well off far beyond anyone else not worrying about what they eat, or following the SAD (Standard American Diet), which is heavy in carbs and seed oils.
Um no. Linoleic Acid that isn't oxidized immediately accumulates in adipose tissue. And when it comes time to burn that for energy... toxicity. Also, Linoleic Acid is an inflammatory compound. You need a SMALL but balanced amount between w6 and w3. Robert Lustig is wrong on this one
Dr mason is slightly mistaken in the theory that it’s not the volume of omega six oils that’s a problem but the oxidised oils derived from seeds that’s the problem. His mistake is assuming that the oils cannot become oxidised in the body or at least not giving sufficient thought to this possibility. Simply put the more omega six there is to oxidise the more will be oxidised if there is something to cause it. In addition if omega six is in very high ratio to omega three it will start to replace omega three in critical areas of cellular makeup resulting in far more fragile cell walls that are easily damaged by oxidative stresses. There is also a mental health aspect as the brain is primarily omega three, excessive omega six can lead to brain inflammation, lesions, bleeds, dementia and Alzheimer’s and possibly Parkinson’s disease.
I went Carnivore and my morning glucose went from 5 to 6. It stays 6 until ater lunch. When I eat a carnivore lunch it goes down. Never goes above 6.4 even after food. HbA1c went from 5.4 to 5.2 after 4 months of Carnivore. Hb went from 15.4 to 16.4 and Haematocrit from 48 to 51. Did not look at reticulocytes
@56:20 or so he mentions that the diarrhea came when not eating enough fat in the diet. What makes me curious is whether when eating just protein and the body begins burning its own fat; wouldn't the means by which the body burns its own fat being different from when dietary fat is ingested be more likely why the body reacts differently? Because others have said that too much ingested fat causes a similar reaction. Perhaps there is a release of toxins when only body fat is burned (? ) so the body tries to rid itself of them - quickly.
Thx Dr M, yeah. Strong point about hormones they are not a simple matter of one look on a test. for example my testosterone was pretty high for a postmenopausal woman then I used progesterone cream and test it again... that threw the balance off and my testosterone was really low but the progesterone was too high... so I backed off from the progesterone cream and the testosterone went back up. so it's very tricky, 1 look at a test doesn't tell the whole story
Am Kenyan and it's TRUE, the kikuyu have a high carbohydrate diet compared to the maasai. Though things are changing now and the maasai eat some carbohydrates not as much though. And the maasai rarely go to the hospital, they rarely get sick and when sick its herbs from the forest.
I wonder what these herbs are that they use? They would be beneficial instead of using over the counter pharmaceuticals
Well, if you live in the USA good luck. However the powerful pharmaceutical corporations will just lobby the government and the FDA will outlaw these magic herbs as unsafe for human consumption.
The maasai are forced to consume the grains because of the dwindling hunting grounds. So sad. They used to go after very big game apparently 😕
SAMEE I’m kenyan
I don't think Masai follow a carnivore diet. Not when I went to visit them. They do eat carbs too.
Masai also are mega active and burn calories.
I'm a bodybuilder (35 years of training) and been on carnivore for 5 weeks now. I've noticed no reduction in power and a huge increase in endurance. It's amazing! :D
I'm 72 and switched to PKD diet (meat, fat, and small amount of greens) 3 months ago. Previous 15 years that WFPB vegan nonsense. First time in dog years I'm gaining strength and visible muscle from working out. I do only compound, multi-joint lifts and ballistics using sandbag. It's all good though, moving weight vs gravity ;)
the real benefits start after several months and even years but success is comes with a slow and steady transition away from consumption of carbohydrates and allowing your body to guide you over a long term to make the proper decisions not dogma. the transition is actually a very long term situation, there are so many factors involved, many of which are not addressed by anyone for a variety of reasons, this is why you MUST become the captain of your own ship and learn how to understand and recognize all the myriad of factors that are effecting your being. The key is discernment and discernment requires a calm and clear mind which cannot be accieved while consuming neurotoxins like sugar and pharmaceuticals.
I'm a 38 yo runner. Experimenting with 48 days of Keto so far, meat & egg based with amazing results and recovery. Humans really do have a natural diet and it has nothing to do with the so called food pyramid.
@@geoffreylevens9045 don't know what your abreviations are exactly. I thank God I was informed @17 in '77 about the poly veg nonsense. All the media DROVE the lies. Haven't been to a doctor since for noninjury treatment. At 62 vitals remain @55, -110/58. People remark my appearance when I have my shirt off from heat. I believe, using the biblical term, doctrines of demons, from vedism, as there's no history for veggies prior to the introduction of the idea/phil/theo/ logies. Didn't eschew the processed carbs until Atkins. I wasn't overweight, just loved the method. Every few months, holidays, I break the regimen. Still love pizza! Day resistance, next weighted cardio, 6 days/wk. Don't really care about lifespan. Healthspan!
Wow.. i’m on week 2 and i am so fatigued i can barely make it out of bed 😢
I’m an avid cyclist who’s carnivore. I never take on carbs before or during long rides. All I bring along is water and electrolytes. It’s amazing how the body needs no carbs
I live in Masailand in Tanzania. The Masai here are very healthy, no sign of any auto-immune disease.
Thank you for the confirmation
Paul, I had severe arthritis for years until I gave up dairy. I had never eaten cheese but I gave up the rest and the arthritis disappeared almost immediately. Not the end of the story however. I couldn't believe that fat would do the damage, so, I reintroduced butter to cook with and it did no harm, and then I began using cream in my coffee. That did no harm either. So I think it has to be something in the milk. The caseine or the lactose, or both. Either way, they're not in cream.
He is so smart, articulate and humble. I have no idea what Dr Mason's age is but he makes me feel motherly. If I were his mother I would be bragging about my smart and wonderful son all the time. LOL Thanks for this interview, Judy, you are a great interviewer. There was so much good and helpful information here.
Paul Mason is a practioner who also takes the time to follow the science . He’s a valuable resource for carnivores.
Thank you Dr Mason. You and low carb down under led me to start a carnivore diet 1 year ago. I've lost 65lbs, my radiculopathy is gone, my ibs has abated, I have greater mental clarity, and my athletic performance is improving.
That's great news Jacob, amazing amazing results 👏
Mate, i really think you have a gift for laying all this info out for the layman like myself, and i almost always add a bit of nuance ( or the occasional bombshell) to my knowledge whenever you release a clip.
Keep on keeping on, because i know this stuff takes up your time but its worth it because you really are helping !
This was wonderfully educational. I’m stepping my foot in carnivore. Been Keto 4 yrs. Have Hashimoto’s, no gallbladder and genetically high cholesterol (hyperbetalipoproteinemia) my A1C was 5.9 last testing. Don’t eat sugar or many carbs at that time. It’s been lower and it’s been higher over the past 7 yrs. It’s difficult to come off what we’ve been told so many years by Drs. I’m 56, I feel great. I’m tired of docs letting me know I’m sick! 😂
Yes, I know for sure higher cholesterol numbers gives you longevity. My nana always had very high cholesterol numbers and the dr always told her that's not a good sign and that she has to lower them thru diet. She lived until 96 years old and died of old age, not some disease. She went to bed and didn't wake up the next day. So, yes, I don't think that high colesterol numbers has anithing to do with bad health, otherwise her cholesterol numbers would made her die alot younger and maybe from a terrible disease...
Slowly went leaner with the meat over the first year of fixing diabetes, and the longer I went, the more I ate every day and did wind up raising blood sugar significantly for a couple of months until I went back to fattier meat. Blood sugar dropped right back when I ate the fatty meat. Dr. Bikman had a great video on protein in the presence of even small amounts of sugar having a higher affect on blood sugar.
Thank you again, always love listening to Dr. Mason.
Excessive protein is fine but you really have to grind during workouts
do you still remember the title of dr. bikman's video on protein and sugar ?
Late reply, but here's the logic. High protein, low fat diets will eventually convert proteins into sugar because proteins can't be used directly for energy. Fatter meats give the fats which can be used directly for energy or converted to ketones. So as Dr Cywes often says, the fat in the diet protects the proteins.
Yeah... Into keto a couple of years.
It's true.
Excess protein stimulates insulin resistance. Blood glucose not being broken down.
High fat is the way. 70% fat in your meal is the best way.
Last week got my bloods back.
Everything within the normal range.
2 years keto/Carnivore. Lost 25 kgs. Male. 66 yo.
I'm three weeks in animal based keto diet. Your interwiew was great. You basically asked every single question about the way of eating I'm interested in that popped in to my head. So thankful.
Btw. Dr. Mason has extremally broad knowledge of the subject. He is great.
Thank you both ! 👍
I have been listening to Paul for years and every time I hear him I learn something new. Thank you Paul and keep going strong
Does he have a podcast? If so what are you listen to him
This is one of the best interviews you've done to date, Judy! I appreciate you both!
I include dairy grass-fed eggs butters alittle cheese and full fat yogurt all pasture-raised on my animal based diet and I do very well with that. My family has grown up on farms since the 1800s eating animal meats and dairy. So I may be more adapted to eating it and infact I feel better including some dairy whole foods. And my blood work is excellent since kicking the SAD diet that I strayed onto after leaving the farm, have since got back on my early life diet of farm raised animal based foods diet that I grew up with. I'm actually raising my own cows and chickens now. All pasture-raised no grains, give them different hays including alfalfa timothy and grass hays through the winter. Have got my health back since getting back to a healthy animal foods based diet.
Paul is a legend, been watching loads of his videos and he really knows his stuff about dieting
As usual, Paul provides a ton of useful information. He is intelligent, well informed and seems like a really nice guy. So glad that he is spreading information about the carnivore diet. Thanks
It's amazing how much Doctor Mason knows! I've been going through many of his interviews and lectures and I'm so thrilled to learn so much from him! Been using a carnivore nutrition for 2 years and never felt better! Thanks for all you do and teach! God bless.
Seriously. He is the most binge-worthy expert anywhere. I’m grateful he gives so much of his time and expertise. 🙏🥩🥓🌟
Dr. Mason, thanks so much for your explanation about LDL and how it goes bad. I've watched several of your interviews and lectures on youtube. I would like to get my GP to watch. I try to talk to him about my carnivore diet, he says "everything in moderation". He's a little rotund and understands carbs are bad, but he is Lebanese and says food is a big part of their culture. One reason he gives for not promoting low carb is he knows his patients will not comply. Most of them are Middle Eastern. Of course, I only see the sick ones in his waiting room, but I know a low carb lifestyle would help them more than a doctor visit. :)
Wonderful presentation.......keep on keeping on Dr. Mason 🥰🥰🥰
Judy, you are fantastic, asking the right questions! Many thanks for this interview!
This was diamond podcast💎💎
Dr Mason is brilliant, very good speaker.
Great interview! There is so much debunked information in this video I had to listen to it twice. I learned a lot. Dr. Mason and Judy are both my top carnivore resources on TH-cam.
Jesus Christ. All of this information is trash and anyone that picks up carnivore is going to quit it within 20 years because they either couldn’t take it anymore or they die. It’s not healthy. The general consensus of science easily shows that. This random dumbass brainwashing video doesn’t change the fact that carnivore cuts your life short and doesn’t even make it a good one. Stop.
Bart Kay really respects Dr Mason. 👍🏻
Great discussion. Paul explains everything so clearly and logical for everyone to understand, and the science based evidence makes his discussions well worth listening to. Thank you Dr Paul! 👏
Such good practical questions for people wanting a better understanding of a carnivore type diet. Paul Masons answers are simple and scientific. Some of the big questions I had were wonderfully answered here. Thankyou.
Wow! Top notch questions and answers! Excellent interview. Dr. Mason is super informed.
Lord, this guy is such a treasure!
I too am against seed oil but keep planting the seeds you are planting in every Video!
You are the best. In research as well as in communication! Since I follow your reseach is obviously the state of the art in the carnivore scene, always giving the right impulses to the community! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and keeping going 👍👍👍👍👍
Great Interview! Judy, it would be really nice if you put the studies Paul Mason mentioned in the interview on the show notes. Thanks!!!
Excellent interview! Thank you for taking time for research all those studies and share your knowledge! ❤️
Excellent and informative like always. Thanks Dr Mason
Love u Paul!!! Thanks for all of your research and info you provide
My doctor, just this mo=nth, expressed concern about my LDL level. I told her I'm not worried about that. She asked why. So? It was handy that I could explain. 🙂 I'm sure she'll try to get me to consider a statin next visit.
Thanks Dr. Paul Mason. There were discussed very interesting topics. Waiting for more informating (thanks). Have a good time.
You're truly gifted teacher Paul. That's an excellent presentation. Thanks
after switching to a carnivore diet my blood glucose levels dropped a LOT. Before I was struggling to keep them within the acceptable range for Type 2 diabetes patients, now (after 3 months) they're on the low end of pre-diabetes people.
Purely grass fed beef is pretty much impossible to get here, at least nothing is labelled as such. Then again, most cattle here is fed on grass or silage for most of the year, not on grains and soy paste.
Do you eat chicken or fish too?
That's becouse you don't eat any glucose lr fructose what a shocker that they did go down,
You probably ate a shit diet before.
Yeah... Your cut out sugar and carbs (aka, another form of sugar).
So of course!
Congratulations.
It may help to consume some local caught fish and shellfish as well to complement the corn fed beef
Also if you eat chicken it can affect levels
Enjoyed this discussion.
Good information.
Interesting video. I live outside of Toronto. Many farmers raise their cattle on grass however during the 5 months that we don’t have fresh grass the farmers feed their cattle hay. The farmer that takes the hay from my property stores the hay in round bales outside. I have opened a bale and it’s very dusty with some moulds. This is what his cattle eat all winter while in calf. Do you believe this has any affect on the quality of the meat.
I don't know, but that's the way they do it just about everywhere. Not many are still using square bales. However, if you peel off the outer layer, it stays fresher the further in you go.
Thank you for the video Dr. It would be great if you can a put a link to the mentioned studies.
Interesting about uric acid increase until fully adapted.
This may be why people assume that keto is bad for Gout.
One just needs to continue until fully adapted until uric acid levels decrease, and with continued progress, those with Gout will notice reduction in Gout symptoms and flares.
Exactly,very interesting!
Is there a way of testing Uris acid with some home kits?
@@robertkacala check out Dr Perlmutter and his new book, "Drop Acid." He has his own channel and has been interviewed by others. He says there is a home test available, I believe.
Gout doesn't exist on a carnivore, only omnivores get gout. There needs to be a study, I've already seen the anecdotes
This is the best conversation I've heard in a while
Agreed
It is also nicer when comparing what we eat to look at totally meat vs no meat at all. Everyone in between brings confounding factors. I get told all the time that being on a particular diet for several years proves that it is healthy. I do not believe that. Many of us survive eating food that all camps agree is very bad for us for many years of our lives and seem ok until the day we are not. Lesson is keep learning and listening to your body and do not be afraid that you were wrong about something. We all are at one time or another.
I cannot get over Paul's weird camera, I literally can't stop laughing. It's like I'm looking into an alternate dimension where Paul is actually a very pear shaped man.
Yes it makes Paul look a totally different shape. He is actually very lean.
camera too low paul. pygmy head. love your work.
When he lifts his hands up in the video, they are twice the size of his head. Almost like a funhouse camera lens
I love to listen to Paul Mason 🙂
Judy thank you for addressing absolutely every doubt or question that ever arises with regard to the health of long term carnivore. It was so good to hear them all discussed in one place!
Great content dr Mason!!!
Brilliant talk guys. Please talk again.
Great material, but Dr Paul has the weirdest camera angle in this. It's like a fisheye lens centered on his head that makes him look very wide on the bottom. He's a very thin guy when standing, but it doesn't look it in this vid for some reason.
Dr. Mason is great!
Great lesson on the useful concept of surrogate markers.
Lots of great questions Julie I really enjoyed this post
Thank you to both of you.
just sharing experience :
I did a 40h fast last week , as my appetite changed on carnivore. I just naturally wasn't interested in eating. My blood glucose stayed around 70 the first day.The next morning I got up at 45 and stayed around 50 before my first meal. I felt completly normal and energised, went for a walk and were not really hungry. I ate before leaving the house for the day just in case. Then my blood glucose slowly raised to 75 after the first meal (around lunch), 84 after the second (dinner), then the next day 95 after morning meal, 100 after afternoon meal and 109 after a late small meal (I was hungry again)... then it seams to stabilise around 95 for me went I eat "regularly" , 2 or 3 meals a day.
Carnivore has been and still is a very gradual journey for me with three step up two steps down...
1. Stop eating multiple times a day. Only eat when you are actually hungry and when you do eat, eat until you are comfortably stuffed. Then don't eat again until you are hungry. And if a bowl of plain ground beef doesn't sound appetizing, you aren't hungry.
2. Eat fattier cuts of meat. Ribeye Steak is king. If you aren't eating enough fat, the high protein levels can cause higher blood sugar. If you are already eating ribeyes, try adding some butter or other animal fats and see how that affects you.
I tried to up my fat and i got bloated, tired, depressed and started to be sweaty at night and have oedema in my leggs. I can't do any dairy not even butter. I Just ate beef fat.
I became hungrier and not satisfied. Still craving as much proteins. Tried enzymes and bile no good results.
Then trying to go back to where i started to feel good is hard. I am still much hungrier and have trouble not over eating (these used to be big troubles of mine and i was so happy to have gotten rid of). I know i over eat because i get tired... I think i am Just not there yet. I will just accept my blood glucose in the 90 with the energie and good mood i feel. I feel good when i fast but then i lose controle of my eating... Makes me fail... making my own sausages with fatty beef, lung, heart.. 200g per meals that's my hunger. And sometimes i am not hungry so i don't eat. I started to finally get my belly out of looking pregnant range until i decided to add fasting and more fat. Seems like my body doesn't like me deciding to push à little. I just have to follow the steps.
If i lower proteins i get ravenous at the end of the day for proteins and end up over eating again. Much easier to just fast.
Dr. Paul I love your health teaching. And have watched many of your videos. Unless I missed it I have never heard you discuss the carnivore diet and men's prostate. Do you find that this is a good diet to keep the prostate healthy? Would love to see you make a video about this. Continue success to you sir and keep providing great content.
Hi Dr. Mason, I really enjoy your talks and interviews. It’s very informative! I have a question that may sound dumb to you, but here it goes. When we are in ketosis and burning our own fat, are we getting omega 3 fatty acids from that?
Hello Dr. Paul Manson. About oils...if you are going to cook and you have to choose a fat...wich one you choose: olive oil or butter/ghee? Thanks for sharing all your knowledge.
Fantastic interview. Thank you.
When Judy Cho says people are eating too much, (at around 1:00 mark)
Please specify what ‘too much’ is.
Too vague.
This concept of ‘eating too much’ I have seen in many videos.
Maybe show what that really is.
Also, what is too much for a 5 foot 100 lb female may not be too much for a female who is 5’9”.
How would ‘too much’ be calculated?
Satiation?
Or the inability to be satiated?
(A defect in become satiated)?
Would exercise be involved in determining what eating
‘too much’?
Type of exercise?
Doesn’t exercise increase appetite?
I believe ‘too much’ is more complicated than just calories or even volume of food.
Does this tie in to certain people who have trouble with fat loss, compared to others who show dramatic fat loss?
Could it be ‘blame the patient’ scenario, and not taking into account an underlying hormonal issue that has not been discovered or addressed?
Listen to your body...at all times, it will tell you.
It sounds like Paul is stating that unless the omega-6 has oxidized before you eat it, it’s not an issue. That would mean non-oxidized linoleic acids from seed oils (if you can get any that aren’t oxidized) would not oxidize within the body. Did I misunderstand? Because that is contrary to everything I’ve understood before. Even the small amounts of omega-6 in meat will oxidize in the body, thus proving oxidative stress is just a part of life and emphasizing the importance of antioxidants from real foods.
Non-oxidized linoleic may be okay in theory, but in reality, it oxidizes in vivo. Even if it's not already spoiled, consumption should be minimized IMO. Also the n-6 content in grain fed ruminants is still tiny compared to chicken and pork. Grain fed beef is okay. I don't touch corn/soy fed chicken or pork unless it is very very lean.
i don't think this overgrown fat on beef is natural though 😂
Great information, thanks so much for sharing this.
I believe I was functionally diabetic, though my diagnosis was merely pre-diabetes. I've been following a predominantly carnivore diet for a couple years now, and my A1C is at normal levels, my weight has come down dramatically. I'm working on reducing visceral fat now, but one thing you said was very interesting to me - how some diabetics had undiagosed autoimune diabetes. At my last physical, my fasting insulin number was very low. None of my physicians seem to be concerned about it, but I do have a personal and family history of autoimmune issues. How does one test for and diagnose an autoimmune diabetic condition?
Primary care providers and Rheumatologists do blood tests for autoimmune conditions.
Wish you guys had discussed the studies showing the increase in the quantities of linoleic acid in American adipose biopsies over the last 100 years. See Chris Knobbes work.
My understanding is excess consumption of linoleic acids directly leads to excess Linoleic acid incorporated into cell walls and mitochondria walls and cardiolipin complexes. All of this infiltration has negative consequences independent of oxidation and end products from linoleic acid as you rightly point out.
The goal should be to restore the omega 6 levels in our body tissues to the levels we had in 1850. The easiest way? Eat as they did. i.e. eat no mono-gastrics or eggs unless fed ancestrally $$$$
Yes, I would really like to hear him address this
1:09:29 "I will put all your information in the show notes." I don't see any contact information for Dr. Mason.
No comments yet? For these rockstars‽ Cheers you two!
I love this man!
I thought that the problem with grain fed chicken and pork is that linoleic acid from the feed accumulates in the animal's fat to levels similar to linoleic acid in many seed oils. Consuming excess linoleic... even from animal sources... will cause problems because the linoleic acid will be metabolized; many of the metabolites (such as 4-HNE) are highly toxic. Also, excess linoleic acid from any source will become incorporated into cell membranes and will oxidize in vivo. Example oxidized LDL is very dangerous and can lead to arteriosclerosis. LDL will only oxidize with the inclusion of linoleic acid in the cell membrane.
In regards to the higher nutrient density in grass fed cows... Were the sample sizes taken done in porportion to the cows bodyweight?
This would be important to know because the cows could have the same levels of these nutrients, but if one cow was bigger it could be distributed into more tissue, and I would wager to say that he grain finished ones were bigger.
So in that situation you just have to eat more of a grain finished cow to get the higher nutrient levels. Which is great in the situation where the total cost of the higher quantity of grain finished meat is still lower than the total cost of the lower quantity of grass finished meat.
If you can find cheaper parts of beef of higher quality it would not be a drastic increase in price. For example suet or heart is very cheap in general. I paid PLN 160 for 20kg of suet from my local farmer recently. That's 180 000 calories.
Why not mention Linoliec acid? That is where most of the concerns are regarding omega 6
Great chapter for new knowledge
In defense of tea-- I believe the antinutrients in tea only inhibit the absorption of non-heme iron, not heme iron. I have been on the carnivore diet for 6 years now, and I drink tea every day, throughout the day. I was anemic for years before dropping all plants from my diet. After about 2 months on carnivore, all my iron markers came into the normal range and have stayed there.
I'm confused, hold on, drinking green tea is bad ?
Did you have issues with low red blood cell production as well as iron levels? I’ve been carnivore for 6 weeks, still very fatigued. Did your energy improve?
Are you eating enough fat and salt?
Well, this this might only apply to you, and no one else, and proving that idea is different from “ i think this so it must be true for everyone”. Most folks benefit from the anti inflammatory- antioxidative benefits of black/ green tea
The tannins in tea causes the depletion of vitamin B1.... vitamin B1 deficiency causes all kinds of problems with the digestive and neurological system.
Great questions, greater answers, LoveandGratitude
My husband's testosterone skyrocketed on carnivore and he was able to stop the injections.
That sounds awesome, I'm 40 years old and can't wait to start.
Freakin love this guy
Paul mason only has 30k subs? This must be a new channel for him. Ppl subscribe! Also, I love two intelligent low carb experts discussing and clarifying what can be a tricky subject, especially since the establishment is against us and spouting their mis info and lies. I have watched vegan “experts” and the videos come off as infomercials that try to dazzle the uninformed with buzzwords….bring the science like Dr. Mason does
Hello Dr. Paul Manson. I wonder if you could explain, from a metabolic and digestive point of view it's not a good idea to mix in the same dishe: meat and carbohydrates (pasta, potatoes). What reactions happens in the stomach, the intestines...wich are the damages. Thank you.
😊😊I have noticed that vegetarians, who say they don’t eat animals e.g. ruminants because they don’t agree with killing animals to eat don’t take into account the small animals,insects and soil microbes that are totally destroyed by growing crops. Grazing animals on good pasture actually improve the soil.........modern crop growing means that land is not fallowed in rotation like it used to be......it’s sprayed with chemicals......in order to grow the same crop year after year.......loaded over and over with chemical fertilisers and insect sprays ...which all gets into the product and is ultimately consumed.......and people wonder why they are constantly sick..........dogs and cats are carnivores........this gunk they pass off as dog and cat food i# killing our pets their whole life... carnivores in zoos are NOT fed high carb dry food. because it would kill them.........keep on keeping on guys. 🥰🥰🥰
I have little against vegetarians as they do at least care for their animals. It's the vegans I'm dead against. They, (given the chance) will kill off the whole planet.
Thank you Dr Mason! Please kindly fix the sound quality as I personally find it rather poor. In this particular one Judy's sound is much superior. I specifically went back to check on other videos in this channel and all of them are like that.
I learned something interesting. Seed oils are apparently not sold in Africa. If that is the case then they get all their fat from meat and milk, which isn't in a great amount like it is here.
I wish the microphone of the guest was better - difficult to follow when sound is not great.
What about breakdown products of omega6 such as HNE? Doesnt need to be rancid to still be toxic?
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Win win mate
Dr. Mason, just listen to your LowCarb lecture on LDL. What are the causes for LDL oxidation? - Thank you!
I like listening to Paul and feel like I trust him. But I also don't want to end up in an echo chamber.
I'm sure there are lots of scientists who can quote research papers. How many of us pause the video to independently verify what he's said?
I'd love to see him debate the subjects with someone else so that I can reassure myself about the issues.
So Omega 6 fatty acids aren't inherently bad, it is only when they're oxidized, such as when they are in bottled seed oil form, that they become unhealthy? I just heard Dr. Robert Lustig say the same thing in a Dr. Rangan Chatterjee video.
So......I can start eating chicken and pork again?! I'd avoided both since fowl and swine are generally grain fed and their digestive tracts are such that they wind up high in Omega 6s...
Yes. Gold standard is pasture raised and grass fed beef, but might be expensive depending on where you live.
Avoid fructose containing sugars and seed oils. You will be well off far beyond anyone else not worrying about what they eat, or following the SAD (Standard American Diet), which is heavy in carbs and seed oils.
Yeah exactly, so go enjoy your peanut butter too.
Um no. Linoleic Acid that isn't oxidized immediately accumulates in adipose tissue. And when it comes time to burn that for energy... toxicity. Also, Linoleic Acid is an inflammatory compound. You need a SMALL but balanced amount between w6 and w3.
Robert Lustig is wrong on this one
Dr mason is slightly mistaken in the theory that it’s not the volume of omega six oils that’s a problem but the oxidised oils derived from seeds that’s the problem. His mistake is assuming that the oils cannot become oxidised in the body or at least not giving sufficient thought to this possibility.
Simply put the more omega six there is to oxidise the more will be oxidised if there is something to cause it.
In addition if omega six is in very high ratio to omega three it will start to replace omega three in critical areas of cellular makeup resulting in far more fragile cell walls that are easily damaged by oxidative stresses.
There is also a mental health aspect as the brain is primarily omega three, excessive omega six can lead to brain inflammation, lesions, bleeds, dementia and Alzheimer’s and possibly Parkinson’s disease.
All vege, seed oils are inflammatory, especially cooked.
So glad I found you
I wonder if you eat meat from feedlots (non grass finished) is the higher omega 6 fatty acids in it fresh, or oxidized?
Answered! Way to go! Grass fed better, but grain fed ok so long as fresh and not rancid!
wow I've learned so much new great info!
This was excellent!
I went Carnivore and my morning glucose went from 5 to 6. It stays 6 until ater lunch. When I eat a carnivore lunch it goes down. Never goes above 6.4 even after food. HbA1c went from 5.4 to 5.2 after 4 months of Carnivore. Hb went from 15.4 to 16.4 and Haematocrit from 48 to 51. Did not look at reticulocytes
Tinned salmon ok? Or will the omega 3s be oxidised ?
@56:20 or so he mentions that the diarrhea came when not eating enough fat in the diet. What makes me curious is whether when eating just protein and the body begins burning its own fat; wouldn't the means by which the body burns its own fat being different from when dietary fat is ingested be more likely why the body reacts differently? Because others have said that too much ingested fat causes a similar reaction. Perhaps there is a release of toxins when only body fat is burned (? ) so the body tries to rid itself of them - quickly.
Thanks for the great video! What about fermented raw milk (homemade soured milk)? What about old cheeses like Gauda and Parmesan? Thanks 🙏
Judy, have any of your clients tried goat or sheep dairy for tolerance?
Thx Dr M, yeah. Strong point about hormones they are not a simple matter of one look on a test. for example my testosterone was pretty high for a postmenopausal woman then I used progesterone cream and test it again... that threw the balance off and my testosterone was really low but the progesterone was too high... so I backed off from the progesterone cream and the testosterone went back up. so it's very tricky, 1 look at a test doesn't tell the whole story
Very helpful! Thank you!!
Would the corn used in a diet explain why individuals are having worse issues with Covid?
ive seen they are one of the tourist attraction over there. they can keep it up with lots of energy for 24 hrs. they say they have longest one two
Can you comment on Hemp oil and Sesame oil as well please?