Its these technical videos that really draw me to the channel. I love watching strategies but understanding the game and the odds is why this channel ROCKS!
@@ColorUp I was @ Casino a Ceasars property in southern Indiana & I was playing this system. It's a don't come bet of 150. After establishing a point(9), I place 25 on every number and buy the 4 & 10. My goal is to hit 4-6 times & then place the point (9) for 125. Well I was told by this Casino I could not do this after I rolled a 9 & they didn't pay me. Did I make an improper wager?
A trick that I teach people is to buy the four or ten for and extra $1. Ex $21 or $26 etc. this way the $21 bet would pay $42. We just pay you $41, keeping the $1 vig. This way we don’t have to bother you for the dollar every time. Even a $51 buy would pay $102, we just pay you $100 keeping the $2 juice.
This doesn’t make sense on a table that charges vig on the back end. You’re unnecessarily risking the extra vig amount right away. If the shooter seven outs then you lose the bet and essentially “prepaid” vig. It’s better to hold your vig and pay only a win - for example on a $50 bet you’d still get paid $100 and they’d ask for the $2 vig but you’re not risking it up front.
ick5353 it carries the same inherent risks. It’s the same odds/probability not matter how much you bet. The casino will get their $1 one way or the other. You’re still winning $2 more, and just skipping tossing your $1 in. It helps speed the game up, and if you’re not paying 100% attention, the dealer just hands you your payout, and you can keep chatting with your buddies, order your drinks, or whatever it is that makes you not pay attention. Not to mention if you’re willing to make a $25+ and you’re worried about losing $1 more, maybe craps isn’t a game within your reasonable gambling budget.
My wife actually got me interested in craps. I was a little bit intimidated at first but watching your videos have definitely built my confidence. Aloha 🤙🏾
Very informative, I hope that you'll consider creating an identical video for the dark side bets (comparing the two ways of betting that a certain number will not be rolled before a "7") - a subject that's much less known.
There is a small casino a couple hours north of me that has commission-free buys on the 4/10 during certain times of day and I always love playing there when we travel up that way.
Rivers Casino in Pittsburgh has great craps games. Sometimes $5, always $10 minimums, vig paid after wins, and they automatically buy the 5/9 for you when it favors the player - for example a $25 place bet is common on 5/9 to win $35. The dealers will instruct players to buy 5/9 for $24 to win $35 ($36 minus $1 vig) allowing you the same net win for $1 less risk. Great games, great atmosphere.
Also keep in mind some joints will “total” the vig. So if you try the four and ten for $39 apiece. So they might consider it $68 worth of buys and charge $2 one roll, and $1 the next. But you’re right it will vary from dealer to dealer, Box to box, shift to shift
Bro I'm literally a hardcore craps player I'm a 5 9 guy but always wondered about the old Japanese men at the cal buying the 4 and 10 now I know why thank you u have stepped my game up big time brother hopefully we can shoot togther one day
I actually buy the 4 a lot because I feel obligated to consider it my own personal lucky number: 4 was my favorite number as a kid, plus my first name is Joe (although I’m not from Kokomo).
If the pass line number comes up 4. I go heavy on "don't" 4 place bet and a little on the hard 4. The same if the point is 10. Yeah, I know the payoff is half(if you don't count vig) but probability is heavily on your side for the 7 out. This requires patience because I will just stand and watch a lot of games. However, I have one superstition but based on a lot of experience, when I see too many consecutive field numbers pop up like a half dozen in a row, I will take down my "don't" place bet. Works best on a "cold" table. I like to decide directly what number to cover and be able to "pull down" whenever I want. You can't do that on the pass or come. However, sometimes if the table is "hot" and totally covered with chips, I might cover both 4 and 10 on the "normal" side. Yeah, now it pays almost double!! Also, keep on top of the crap stickman, because sometimes they forget to pay you. That's happened. Good luck, all.
This is a fantastic information video! Very well done! Also, at my class last night I got 4-6 people to sub to your channel. I have made it madatory for any dealers that I am training. But I also encourage the players to subscribe to, so they can learn more about the game. Great job!
Mahalo Jeremy, you opened my eyes to the buy bet. Gonna pass this on to my brother who always plays the 4 and 10, and I might just start pressing this bet 🤙🏻🤙🏻💰
For vig when bet is made, it's hard to get a good deal if you buy both 4 and 10. I generally get a $38 buy bet, but I've been at casinos that cap it at $25-30. My only objection is when a stickman insists on a rule, the house tells them it's not as strict; the guy wants the harsh rule for you!
Ok bare with me here. Your example about the $100 buy bet on the 4. You bet $100, and provide a $5 chip for the vig/commission. You win - you are paid 2:1. So..my question is, are you paid $200 and you still have your original $100 bet up there? If you were to walk away, would you now have $300 and only have paid the $5 vig?
I normally make lay bets like lay the 5 for 30. I assume this is a good bet. But every now and then when the table's warm i buy the 4 for always 25 but here in iowa we pay vig up front.
a few months ago we got a crapless craps table at Cherokee casino. I did a buy bet on the Three at $100 vig $5 on the bet, won $300 or $295. not bad payout. 3/11 are 3:1 odds and 2/12 are 4:1 odds on buy bets. our min buy bets are $25 at 5%vig.
So, edge case: if you're at a "vig on win" table and that $20 bet is the last of your chips, will they just take the vig out of the winnings instead of asking for it, or do they pay you out first and then ask?
Color Up : I noticed on your DOEY / DON'T video , when the 12 rolled on the come out , you as the house collected the don't pass bet , instead of the pass line bet !!!!
Hi Jeremy. Like the videos a lot. Buy Bets, never heard of them before. One question, can a player go off a Buy bet or do they have to ride out the entire shooter? To have a plan B, what would be a hedge bet, a Dont Pass? Thank You, Michael
Yes, you can go off or remove a buy bet anytime. As far as hedging, you can do anything you would normally do to hedge against a place bet, so a don't pass is one option.
Appreciate your vids. What I dont understand is WHY the odds change whether you buy or place. It's the same number when it comes up right? What am I missing?
Tracy LaReau turning the bets on or off won’t affect the vig. Either you’ve paid it up front or you pay it on the win. If you take your bet down, and if you’ve paid the vig up front then the casino pays it back.
i have a question about asking bets to be turned "on" on the come out roll. Let's say I have a buy bet on the 4 and two place bets on the 6 & 8...can I ask for only the 4 to be turned on...or only the 4 and 6, for example? Or would all of my bets automatically be "on"?
3:12 Where are you playing? I didn't find any Vig on win places in Las Vegas. MS casinos used to be vig on win, I don't know if its the same now. The only thing you'd be right on is that Atlantic city is always vig when the bet is made. If you know places that have vig on win only, then tell us; free advertisement for the casino.
ALso should explain to Novice players that you have to pay the VIG each time it hits not just once. So if you buy the 4 for $25, you pay $1 commission. If it hits, you have to pay the casino the $1 again if you want the buy to remain up. It's not like you can just pay it once to buy it and keep hitting it without paying the VIG
Do you have a video that's about standard presses and other similar lingo? I was watching a dealer video and then were showing some presses such as "move it up to a quarter, 1 unit, etc." and I don't know anything about it. I like your format of videos and I find I learn well with them, it would be cool if there was a color up video for it. Thanks
One small question. If I do a $25 buy bet on the 4 with a $1 dollar vig and hit the 4, do I have to put up another $1 vig to continue the buy bet, or does the $1 vig satisfy the bet until the 7 rolls?
When calculating the Vig, does the house only take the bet amount per number or is it the sum of multiple buy bets on the table? For example, if I bought the 4 for $35 and the 10 for $25 would I pay $1 vig on each number or would I have to pay $3 to cover my $60 in buy bets?
I’ve only seen them charge vig per bet. I’ve heard from old timers they used to spread the vig between multiple bets, so maybe some casinos still do that?
Interesting how casinos won't let you make a buy bet below $20 because that would be ripping the player off. I thought ripping people off was the whole point of casinos!
Exactly, but if they allow buy bets at $10 even though vig higher, the player gets paid more than place bet on 4/10….so they are ripping us off after all ha
Sounds like after it hits they are collecting for your next bet as it stays up. If you ask to pull your bet down they would return that dollar as well.
You said there is no house edge on buy bets except for the 5% vig at 1:21 time. That's incorrect. There is always a house edge whether the vig is paid up front or upon winning. And good luck finding a Vegas casino that allows paying upon winning. lol
I was making a point. Not a house edge EXCEPT the 5% vig the charge, which is a house edge of course. Also many Vegas casinos have switched to automatic buys on 4/10…which means they take vig on win.
place betting the point is only a bad idea if you have a pass line bet. You will get a better payout by moving that money to the odds bet behind the pass line bet. Same would apply to 4/10. Don’t make a buy bet if you have that number bet on the pass line, use that money for odds.
played conservative for couple hours, about even. then shooter before me and my own roll was pretty good, so I pressed my bets and colored up for a couple hundred.
ive only played a handful of games, still learning. so buying the bet is like playing odds on the place bet? and if so is this the only way to get odds on place bets?
Hello Friend - I know that this is not connected to the video but need some help. You had posted a video with a system of just playing pass line...if it loses...you bet the same...if it loses...then you go up one. Can you recall what video was titled for me?
Color Up what about odds on the place bet? (Where they stack the chips off center). Like in your 3 molly strategy video. Or is that the same as a buy bet? Ty for reply too.
You can’t add odds to a place bet. A 3 point molly uses come bets. Come bets are the same as a pass line and odds can be added. Check out my free beginner course at www.colorup.club
Thank you for your vids...question. If im rolling can i also buy my point number ?? Or i can only buy non point number ????? Also will they allow a friend to throw the dice for me if there not betting.. Other words if a friend is next to me at the table can i give the dice to them a couple times ?? Or they will only let me throw the dice. Ty...
You can additionally buy your point number, but would be better to bet more money with odds as there is no vig like with a buy bet. They will not allow your friend to roll for you, until your roll is over. Then it would be their turn if standing next to you, and would have to make their own bets.
Nice, What's the house edge if you get rounded down from 30$ to 1$ vig? how good is it at 39$ rounded down to 1$ :D ? I like this bet, I'm going to buy the 4 and 10 ! :D
To figure buy or lay bet = commission divided by the bet plus commission so $39 bet with $1 commission is 1/39+1(40) or 1/40 = 2.5% house edge and $30 bet with $1 vig is 1/31 = 3.2%
Yes, additional 5% vig would be required for every jump of $20 for casinos that collect the vig upfront. Casinos that collect on win only would require the higher vig amount, but only if you win.
of you are buying a bet and the vig is up front, what happens after the first hit? do you pay another vig to keep the bet or does the vig move to the wins after that?
I have a question, if you pay The Vig upfront do you have to keep paying The Vig each time you win? Or do you only have to pay it the one time? So if you buy the 4 for $20 and you pay the vig upfront that's one more dollar, do you have to pay when you win? Or is it after you win and they take The Vig do you have to pay The Vig each time?
One time for each bet. If you pay upfront, when you win they don't collect again. But if you bet again or leave the bet up, they will require another vig.
@@debralivingston7298 No, it will stay up and the dealer will ask you for another dollar or the vig in order to keep it active (as a new bet) But if you didn't want to pay another vig, or you wanted it taken down, you would tell the dealer.
@@ColorUp thank you, I think your vids are very educational and enjoyable. I just found your channel a day or two ago and really got into it. I never realized there could be so many strategies in the game of Craps. I've saved 2 of your videos so I can go back and train with them. I'm currently studying the "inside out press" and another system where you "bet the pass line, place all the place numbers, bet the c&e on every roll, and pressing". I'm finding both of these systems to be mostly successful and easy to master. And by the way, my name is Robert, I just use my wife's login. I'm mostly computer ignorant. Thanks again.
@@debralivingston7298 Ha, hey Robert, thanks for watching! There are hundreds of different ways to mix up your bets and play this game, its why I love so much. Find strategies you find fun, can understand, and are comfortable with, after that it just takes so luck as there is no such thing as a strategy that will always beat the casino.
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Its these technical videos that really draw me to the channel. I love watching strategies but understanding the game and the odds is why this channel ROCKS!
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback
@@ColorUp like the videos man jusy heard about a PUT bet have you done a video on that
Not yet, I have on my to do list though - put bets
@@ColorUp ok cool ill keep a eye out dont know everything to it thanks man
@@ColorUp I was @ Casino a Ceasars property in southern Indiana & I was playing this system. It's a don't come bet of 150. After establishing a point(9), I place 25 on every number and buy the 4 & 10. My goal is to hit 4-6 times & then place the point (9) for 125. Well I was told by this Casino I could not do this after I rolled a 9 & they didn't pay me. Did I make an improper wager?
Everything makes sense, but I can’t wait to buy the 5 and 9 in Vegas (on the “Vig on win” tables) and see the looks on everyone’s face. 😂
A trick that I teach people is to buy the four or ten for and extra $1. Ex $21 or $26 etc. this way the $21 bet would pay $42. We just pay you $41, keeping the $1 vig. This way we don’t have to bother you for the dollar every time. Even a $51 buy would pay $102, we just pay you $100 keeping the $2 juice.
Great advice
Interesting. I've never seen that. Will be trying that on my next press up. Thank you.
carpetcowboy58 yeah buddy
This doesn’t make sense on a table that charges vig on the back end. You’re unnecessarily risking the extra vig amount right away. If the shooter seven outs then you lose the bet and essentially “prepaid” vig. It’s better to hold your vig and pay only a win - for example on a $50 bet you’d still get paid $100 and they’d ask for the $2 vig but you’re not risking it up front.
ick5353 it carries the same inherent risks. It’s the same odds/probability not matter how much you bet. The casino will get their $1 one way or the other. You’re still winning $2 more, and just skipping tossing your $1 in. It helps speed the game up, and if you’re not paying 100% attention, the dealer just hands you your payout, and you can keep chatting with your buddies, order your drinks, or whatever it is that makes you not pay attention. Not to mention if you’re willing to make a $25+ and you’re worried about losing $1 more, maybe craps isn’t a game within your reasonable gambling budget.
Great video! Love how you put the percentages on the screen! Makes it really easy to understand and explain to others!
thanks Tess!
My wife actually got me interested in craps. I was a little bit intimidated at first but watching your videos have definitely built my confidence. Aloha 🤙🏾
Nice! its a fun game once you get over the intimidation factor
Very informative, I hope that you'll consider creating an identical video for the dark side bets (comparing the two ways of betting that a certain number will not be rolled before a "7") - a subject that's much less known.
working on a lay bet video, will come out this month probably
@@ColorUp The lay the 4 and 10 was the strategy that I sent you, I hope you get a chance to check it out.
I need to cover the lay bet in detail before I start doing lay strategies, because people always ask...what’s that bet haha
@@ColorUp ya, you have a point there. I can't wait!
@@Mr007troyLay bets are golden on drunk or rowdy tables. 💰
There is a small casino a couple hours north of me that has commission-free buys on the 4/10 during certain times of day and I always love playing there when we travel up that way.
Yeah, some casinos run short term promotional and charge no vig, its a great deal when you can get it
Rivers Casino in Pittsburgh has great craps games. Sometimes $5, always $10 minimums, vig paid after wins, and they automatically buy the 5/9 for you when it favors the player - for example a $25 place bet is common on 5/9 to win $35. The dealers will instruct players to buy 5/9 for $24 to win $35 ($36 minus $1 vig) allowing you the same net win for $1 less risk. Great games, great atmosphere.
Great rules, thanks for update from Pitts
Also keep in mind some joints will “total” the vig. So if you try the four and ten for $39 apiece. So they might consider it $68 worth of buys and charge $2 one roll, and $1 the next. But you’re right it will vary from dealer to dealer, Box to box, shift to shift
Good info, thanks
Bro I'm literally a hardcore craps player I'm a 5 9 guy but always wondered about the old Japanese men at the cal buying the 4 and 10 now I know why thank you u have stepped my game up big time brother hopefully we can shoot togther one day
always cool to add another tool to your game
Thank you! Outstanding video explaining a very confusing topic due to different rules at different casinos. Much appreciated.
This one was not easy to make
I actually buy the 4 a lot because I feel obligated to consider it my own personal lucky number: 4 was my favorite number as a kid, plus my first name is Joe (although I’m not from Kokomo).
excellent video, thank you for explaining that bet
Hey, great explanation, I now understand the difference and will now buy my 4 and 10
Yep, always buy the 4/10 when you can vs place
If the pass line number comes up 4. I go heavy on "don't" 4 place bet and a little on the hard 4. The same if the point is 10. Yeah, I know the payoff is half(if you don't count vig) but probability is heavily on your side for the 7 out. This requires patience because I will just stand and watch a lot of games. However, I have one superstition but based on a lot of experience, when I see too many consecutive field numbers pop up like a half dozen in a row, I will take down my "don't" place bet. Works best on a "cold" table. I like to decide directly what number to cover and be able to "pull down" whenever I want. You can't do that on the pass or come.
However, sometimes if the table is "hot" and totally covered with chips, I might cover both 4 and 10 on the "normal" side. Yeah, now it pays almost double!! Also, keep on top of the crap stickman, because sometimes they forget to pay you. That's happened. Good luck, all.
Good point, thanks for the tip!
This is a fantastic information video! Very well done! Also, at my class last night I got 4-6 people to sub to your channel. I have made it madatory for any dealers that I am training. But I also encourage the players to subscribe to, so they can learn more about the game. Great job!
I really appreciate that!
Mahalo Jeremy, you opened my eyes to the buy bet. Gonna pass this on to my brother who always plays the 4 and 10, and I might just start pressing this bet 🤙🏻🤙🏻💰
Casino I play at always takes the vig up front. One older fella that plays there, often bets three of the 5-6-8-9 at $10 for a $1 vig.
Crown Casino Melbourne Australia $10 min bet, You can only buy in advance in lots of $10 (we have 50c chips). ie you can not buy on $15 or $25 bets.
Love that I found this channel!!! Thank you for all the content! Hate that I found this channel 2 weeks after I came back from Vegas! 😂🤣
The Golden gates made me do a $10 lay bet for the 4 and 10. At the Ameristar, they had a min of $40.
Yep, everyone has different rules
I do make money play 4-10 buy for 25$ making 49 dollar on hit
Agreed
For vig when bet is made, it's hard to get a good deal if you buy both 4 and 10. I generally get a $38 buy bet, but I've been at casinos that cap it at $25-30. My only objection is when a stickman insists on a rule, the house tells them it's not as strict; the guy wants the harsh rule for you!
Ok bare with me here. Your example about the $100 buy bet on the 4. You bet $100, and provide a $5 chip for the vig/commission. You win - you are paid 2:1. So..my question is, are you paid $200 and you still have your original $100 bet up there? If you were to walk away, would you now have $300 and only have paid the $5 vig?
I normally make lay bets like lay the 5 for 30. I assume this is a good bet. But every now and then when the table's warm i buy the 4 for always 25 but here in iowa we pay vig up front.
I should have a lay bet video coming soon. Iowa big is upfront, thanks for the info
Paying the vig on a win and getting them to round down the vig at $39 to $1 is a difference from leaving up hundreds or down hundreds.
a few months ago we got a crapless craps table at Cherokee casino. I did a buy bet on the Three at $100 vig $5 on the bet, won $300 or $295. not bad payout. 3/11 are 3:1 odds and 2/12 are 4:1 odds on buy bets. our min buy bets are $25 at 5%vig.
Bigger payout means bigger chance the bet is more likely to lose, but its nice if it hits.
Another clear straightforward video. Thank you.
So, edge case: if you're at a "vig on win" table and that $20 bet is the last of your chips, will they just take the vig out of the winnings instead of asking for it, or do they pay you out first and then ask?
Thank you for putting up the video on my question really really appreciate it aloha
Been looking forward to this one!
Color Up : I noticed on your DOEY / DON'T video , when the 12 rolled on the come out , you as the house collected the don't pass bet , instead of the pass line bet !!!!
mistakes happen, thanks for letting me know
Just thought you might want to know, your videos are outstanding, I watch them all , thanks !!!!
Color Up : Check out your Doey DON'T video at 6:58 !!!!
thanks for the info, I was looking for vig% on these and lay bets. Looks like they are same if collected on win
So a 100 4 r 10 place bet pays 98 $ and a buy bet pays 95 so why would you buy bet anything? They all loose on the 7
A $100 Buy bet on the 4 or 10 would win you $200 minus $5 vig equals $195.
A $100 Place bet on the 4 or 10 would win you $180.
If the casino charges the vig upfront and you win but leave the bet working, do you pay the vig again?
Yes
Can one buy the 4 and 10 before the come out roll so they could be on during come out?
Yes, just make the bet and ask your dealer to have them “working”
Thanks for this video. It really helped me understand the buy bets!
thats good to hear, I was worried it might be too confusing
Hi Jeremy. Like the videos a lot. Buy Bets, never heard of them before. One question, can a player go off a Buy bet or do they have to ride out the entire shooter?
To have a plan B, what would be a hedge bet, a Dont Pass?
Thank You,
Michael
Yes, you can go off or remove a buy bet anytime. As far as hedging, you can do anything you would normally do to hedge against a place bet, so a don't pass is one option.
@@ColorUp what are the other options to hedge the 4 & 10 buy bets?
@@chadnollenberg1237 Any 7.
@@jimklemens5018 True
Appreciate your vids. What I dont understand is WHY the odds change whether you buy or place. It's the same number when it comes up right? What am I missing?
Odds of rolling the numbers do not change, what changes is how they are paid, and those are just the rules that are set up.
But why do buy bets even exist? what is the purpose of the buy bet if it only benefits the 4 and 10
i think I not sure but I heard if turn the bet off or if you take it down and if you want turn it back on you have to pay the 5% percent again?
Tracy LaReau turning the bets on or off won’t affect the vig. Either you’ve paid it up front or you pay it on the win. If you take your bet down, and if you’ve paid the vig up front then the casino pays it back.
Oh my 🎉 needed this vid. Thanks!!
i have a question about asking bets to be turned "on" on the come out roll. Let's say I have a buy bet on the 4 and two place bets on the 6 & 8...can I ask for only the 4 to be turned on...or only the 4 and 6, for example?
Or would all of my bets automatically be "on"?
3:12 Where are you playing? I didn't find any Vig on win places in Las Vegas. MS casinos used to be vig on win, I don't know if its the same now. The only thing you'd be right on is that Atlantic city is always vig when the bet is made.
If you know places that have vig on win only, then tell us; free advertisement for the casino.
I believe that every casino in Las Vegas has you pay the vig on a win only.
If the VIG is paid after the win do you have to pay it every time or just once?
I assume once but not totally sure...
You pay the vig on every hit/win on that particular number...if the 10 hits 3 times in a row for $25 buy bet, you'll pay that $1 vig on all three hits
ALso should explain to Novice players that you have to pay the VIG each time it hits not just once. So if you buy the 4 for $25, you pay $1 commission. If it hits, you have to pay the casino the $1 again if you want the buy to remain up. It's not like you can just pay it once to buy it and keep hitting it without paying the VIG
Thanks for adding
@@ColorUp NW, thanks for all you do for the craps community!
Great information , keep the videos coming.
Thank you
will do, keep watching
Can you please do a video on payouts like for everything place bet, true odds everything. It would be very helpful.
I have covered all that, but maybe put it all together in one video, thanks
@@ColorUp yea all in one video would be great
No five and nine buys in Colorado. Tried at least once with no success.
Yeah, its going to be rare I believe
Do you have a video that's about standard presses and other similar lingo? I was watching a dealer video and then were showing some presses such as "move it up to a quarter, 1 unit, etc." and I don't know anything about it. I like your format of videos and I find I learn well with them, it would be cool if there was a color up video for it. Thanks
What about when you press do you have to pay more vig if you parlay?
Yes, additional vig would be required, again this depends on total amount of bet.
7:43 $39 😂 💯
Another awesome video! short and to the point.
question: if you buy the 4 or 10, pay the vig, and three rolls later (5,6,3) then you take your buy bet down, do you get your vig back?
Yes…some dealers may forget, but be sure you do get it back.
Why is buying the 6 and 8 not worth it ? Mathematically compared to place betting it or something ?
Yes, exactly house edge is higher and payout is less
One small question. If I do a $25 buy bet on the 4 with a $1 dollar vig and hit the 4, do I have to put up another $1 vig to continue the buy bet, or does the $1 vig satisfy the bet until the 7 rolls?
The dealer would ask for another $1 vig as it would then be a new bet.
Love your videos. Keep em coming.
thank you, I will.
Super helpful!
Excellent explanation
Could you please make a video on put bets? Thank you
Thanks for info. much appricated
Great video thanks for the explanation would like to see more
Thanks, more on the way
This is a helpful video with clear explanations.
Glad you think so!
When calculating the Vig, does the house only take the bet amount per number or is it the sum of multiple buy bets on the table? For example, if I bought the 4 for $35 and the 10 for $25 would I pay $1 vig on each number or would I have to pay $3 to cover my $60 in buy bets?
I’ve only seen them charge vig per bet. I’ve heard from old timers they used to spread the vig between multiple bets, so maybe some casinos still do that?
Nice video 👍
how about doing a video on lay bets. keep up the great videos
Its already in the works
Excellent tutorial, thank you!
Glad you found helpful
Interesting how casinos won't let you make a buy bet below $20 because that would be ripping the player off. I thought ripping people off was the whole point of casinos!
Exactly, but if they allow buy bets at $10 even though vig higher, the player gets paid more than place bet on 4/10….so they are ripping us off after all ha
Question - I’m in NJ. AC casinos take the $1vig upfront and another $1 when the 4/10 hits. This is on a $25 buy bet. Am I missing something? Thanks
Sounds like after it hits they are collecting for your next bet as it stays up. If you ask to pull your bet down they would return that dollar as well.
Yes that makes sense! Haha I never thought of the next bet! Thanks
Can you run through Lay bets also?
I will do soon, thanks
You said there is no house edge on buy bets except for the 5% vig at 1:21 time. That's incorrect. There is always a house edge
whether the vig is paid up front or upon winning. And good luck finding a Vegas casino that allows paying upon winning. lol
I was making a point. Not a house edge EXCEPT the 5% vig the charge, which is a house edge of course. Also many Vegas casinos have switched to automatic buys on 4/10…which means they take vig on win.
I know putting a place bet on the point is a bad idea is it the same with buy bet when the point is 4 or 10?
place betting the point is only a bad idea if you have a pass line bet. You will get a better payout by moving that money to the odds bet behind the pass line bet. Same would apply to 4/10. Don’t make a buy bet if you have that number bet on the pass line, use that money for odds.
Would the vig still be $1 for buying the 4&10 on a $5 minimum table?
Love it! Very easy to understand.
Glad it was helpful
Cleveland boy
Do a dont come bet wining and what makes it lose
? What’s the question
If a buy a four and it comes up twice will you pay the vig twice?
Yes, a vig is paid on each bet, a decision win or lose means it’s now a new bet.
How was ur session after the live stream?
played conservative for couple hours, about even. then shooter before me and my own roll was pretty good, so I pressed my bets and colored up for a couple hundred.
New subscriber totally appreciate these tutorials thanks
Oh cool, thank you very much
I buy the 4/10 but now I’m about to start buying the 5/9. 😎
Most places won’t allow, let me know if your local casino allows
Color Up will do
ive only played a handful of games, still learning. so buying the bet is like playing odds on the place bet? and if so is this the only way to get odds on place bets?
a buy bet is the only way to get a true odds payout which is like playing the odds, BUT you have a %5 tax
Hello Friend - I know that this is not connected to the video but need some help. You had posted a video with a system of just playing pass line...if it loses...you bet the same...if it loses...then you go up one. Can you recall what video was titled for me?
I don't remember one with just the pass, there are a couple that switch to don't "ride the streaks" "win 500 per day"
@@ColorUp I thought there was one where you showed the formula on pressing up to get a win and then back down. Shucks. Thanks for the quick response.
Which casinos are vig after a win?
Not sure if there is a list anywhere. That would be great.
Color Up according to the CEG Dealer School TH-cam channel, all Vegas casinos now charge vig on win only for the buy bet on 4/10.
Good video. Thanks Jeremy.
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What’s the difference between buy bets and odds on the place bet?
Buy bets pay true odds minus 5% - place bets pay less than true odds.
Color Up what about odds on the place bet? (Where they stack the chips off center). Like in your 3 molly strategy video. Or is that the same as a buy bet? Ty for reply too.
You can’t add odds to a place bet. A 3 point molly uses come bets. Come bets are the same as a pass line and odds can be added. Check out my free beginner course at www.colorup.club
Thank you for your vids...question. If im rolling can i also buy my point number ?? Or i can only buy non point number ????? Also will they allow a friend to throw the dice for me if there not betting.. Other words if a friend is next to me at the table can i give the dice to them a couple times ?? Or they will only let me throw the dice. Ty...
You can additionally buy your point number, but would be better to bet more money with odds as there is no vig like with a buy bet. They will not allow your friend to roll for you, until your roll is over. Then it would be their turn if standing next to you, and would have to make their own bets.
@@ColorUp . thanks a lot ..i just moved to vegas. I want to play .. Thanks
Nice, What's the house edge if you get rounded down from 30$ to 1$ vig? how good is it at 39$ rounded down to 1$ :D ? I like this bet, I'm going to buy the 4 and 10 ! :D
To figure buy or lay bet = commission divided by the bet plus commission so $39 bet with $1 commission is 1/39+1(40) or 1/40 = 2.5% house edge and $30 bet with $1 vig is 1/31 = 3.2%
If you have buy bets in play on 4/10 and want to press do you pay VIG everytime you press it up?
Yes, additional 5% vig would be required for every jump of $20 for casinos that collect the vig upfront. Casinos that collect on win only would require the higher vig amount, but only if you win.
Thank you. Can you buy a "dont bet" ?
It’s called a “lay bet” and I’m working on that video soon
great vid man. thanks for all your vids
Thx for watching!
Wait so what’s the real difference between place and buying? Is it just the vig and payout?
Yep
of you are buying a bet and the vig is up front, what happens after the first hit? do you pay another vig to keep the bet or does the vig move to the wins after that?
You would need to pay another vig to keep bet up
thanks
Someone correct me if i am wrong, but the connecticut casinos collect the vig only on the win
Foxwoods, vig on win. Mohegan Sun, vig up front.
Would you still buy the 4/10 if youre playing dont pass/dont come?
Maybe
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Do I have to pay the vig everytime it hits?
Yes, essentially you are paying vig for a new bet.
Very helpful
good info thank you
I have a question, if you pay The Vig upfront do you have to keep paying The Vig each time you win? Or do you only have to pay it the one time? So if you buy the 4 for $20 and you pay the vig upfront that's one more dollar, do you have to pay when you win? Or is it after you win and they take The Vig do you have to pay The Vig each time?
One time for each bet. If you pay upfront, when you win they don't collect again. But if you bet again or leave the bet up, they will require another vig.
@@ColorUp thank you, after reading your response I realized that that bet always comes down after you win and you have to put it back up correct?
@@debralivingston7298 No, it will stay up and the dealer will ask you for another dollar or the vig in order to keep it active (as a new bet) But if you didn't want to pay another vig, or you wanted it taken down, you would tell the dealer.
@@ColorUp thank you, I think your vids are very educational and enjoyable. I just found your channel a day or two ago and really got into it. I never realized there could be so many strategies in the game of Craps. I've saved 2 of your videos so I can go back and train with them. I'm currently studying the "inside out press" and another system where you "bet the pass line, place all the place numbers, bet the c&e on every roll, and pressing". I'm finding both of these systems to be mostly successful and easy to master. And by the way, my name is Robert, I just use my wife's login. I'm mostly computer ignorant. Thanks again.
@@debralivingston7298 Ha, hey Robert, thanks for watching! There are hundreds of different ways to mix up your bets and play this game, its why I love so much. Find strategies you find fun, can understand, and are comfortable with, after that it just takes so luck as there is no such thing as a strategy that will always beat the casino.
Really enjoy your videos = subbed.
thanks!
This really help!!