Redrawing the Map of the Middle East in 1920

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    100 years ago at the conference of San Remo, one thing became clear: Great Britain and France wanted control over the Middle East. Justified by the fighting in the previous years and painted as "liberators" of the Middle Eastern minorities, the new map of the Middle East emerged - under the cover of the League of Nations Mandate system.
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    Karsh, Efraim & Karsh, Inari, Empires of the Sand: The Struggle for Mastery in the Middle East 1789-1923, (Cambridge, MA : Harvard University Press, 1999)
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ความคิดเห็น • 445

  • @merrbino
    @merrbino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +371

    *Slaps roof of Versailles treaty*
    "This baby can fit so much future conflict in it"

    • @ChillyBenpa
      @ChillyBenpa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What does it have to do with this tho'

    • @merrbino
      @merrbino 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChillyBenpa haha yeah I know 🙃

    • @Nothing-ui7pj
      @Nothing-ui7pj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @kevinchapman2794
      @kevinchapman2794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      * Paper crumples.

  • @ahuse1
    @ahuse1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    the stuff you guys are covering here is as important and consequential as any battle. bravo!

  • @ralphbernhard1757
    @ralphbernhard1757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    Sykes: "What part do you want?"
    Picot: "What part do you want?"
    Locals:

    • @hawkarKurdish-z7t
      @hawkarKurdish-z7t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      We Kurds were doomed by this actions

    • @tiggergolah
      @tiggergolah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @N Vannote Nope, them too. It was lose lose for everyone in the long run.

    • @Darwinek
      @Darwinek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@hawkarKurdish-z7t Unfortunately, Kurds are doomed whatever happens in the Middle East.

  • @brianthomas8125
    @brianthomas8125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    One of the smartest things that Italy ever did was to avoid Sykes-Picot. Before Orlando headed to Versailles, he met with Vittorio Emanuele III and the King asked him if he intended to contest Sykes-Picot at all. He shook his head and replied, "There's a reason that the old Romans left, Majesty- too many problems over there". How right he was.

  • @JamieDouthit
    @JamieDouthit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Thanks for still putting out content. As some who’s still working 50 hour per week, I love getting the notification that “the Great War” just uploaded a new video. Keep up the great work!

  • @tschetatsch
    @tschetatsch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    Arbitrary borders not thinking about ethnicities which lead to geopolitical problems and tensions today

    • @elKuhnTucker
      @elKuhnTucker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      True. We must strive for a world where every ethnicity has their own country!

    • @anderstopansson
      @anderstopansson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same in south America. And globalists love it.

    • @mrmagoo8956
      @mrmagoo8956 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Concise and accurate

    • @SalmonJonesTheMagnificent
      @SalmonJonesTheMagnificent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Nah man, diversity is our strength for some reason. After all, it needs to be parroted over and over and over again by everybody with very little in the way of proof or support, that's how you know something's true, if you have to keep saying it and saying it and saying it because it isn't self evident at all.

    • @CHIL2903
      @CHIL2903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@SalmonJonesTheMagnificent Every time I hear "diversity is our strength" it always reminds me of "arbeit macht frei" for some reason.

  • @peacemaarkhan
    @peacemaarkhan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +231

    Middle East in 1920: Hey US, please meddle in our affairs
    The US 100 years later: sure thing

    • @Crick1952
      @Crick1952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I thought that was pretty ironic as well

    • @Ugly_German_Truths
      @Ugly_German_Truths 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      well "to be fair" they have meddled since at least 1950... but it seems to be addictive and the US isn't going to rehab anytime soon...

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Ugly_German_Truths US only really intervened in Iran, though. Does that count as "meddling in the affairs of the ME" as a whole? If it were multiple countries, then sure, but that seems to me to be a bit of an exaggeration.

    • @samyak4165
      @samyak4165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ugly_German_Truths Well...they are leaving now but I dont see a bright future for Afghanistan.

    • @rhetoric5173
      @rhetoric5173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not Middle East, israel

  • @TheVideomaker2341
    @TheVideomaker2341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    This will forever change the world.

    • @LightxHeaven
      @LightxHeaven 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @Ex Animus And will echo for many more years to come...

    • @MrBigCookieCrumble
      @MrBigCookieCrumble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My final message
      Goodbye

    • @brandon074
      @brandon074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Ex Animus Like 9/11/2001

    • @yousuck785why
      @yousuck785why 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed

    • @yousuck785why
      @yousuck785why 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am agreeing with videomaker2341

  • @eifelitorn
    @eifelitorn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    The Sykes-Picot Agreement was already revealed by the Russians in 1917 when they left the war. This is a really interesting topic, thanks! I'm defending my Master's Thesis on this topic in a month, so this fitted me perfectly :D

    • @AshGamer007
      @AshGamer007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well they aren't going to give parts of Arabia to Soviets

    • @eifelitorn
      @eifelitorn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@AshGamer007 they weren't the Soviets when the agreement was made.. It was the Soviets who went out of the war and exposed the agreement to the world.

    • @oml81mm
      @oml81mm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Russians were involved in all the secret goings on and it was Leon Trotsky who leaked it all to the world. His Marxist principals went against the whole thing. Once the Bolshevics finally won control in (now soviet) Russia they gave up all claims to influence in the middle east and pulled out of WW1.

  • @henrik1220
    @henrik1220 4 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    "what could go wrong?"

    • @christopherconard2831
      @christopherconard2831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They're upset now. But give it a couple years, I'm sure they'll all get along.

    • @DaFinkingOrk
      @DaFinkingOrk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      To yourself three years ago: Oh you have no idea...

    • @username19237
      @username19237 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This is crash course

  • @Phonixrmf
    @Phonixrmf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    Middle Easterners: peace is surely coming
    Picot: Sykes!

    • @azamkhan1526
      @azamkhan1526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      along with Democracy with free Human rights

    • @nialpollitt3410
      @nialpollitt3410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @gamer hashaam isn't that how Islam spread though?

    • @MH-jg6vk
      @MH-jg6vk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nial Pollitt funny because Islam kept the Middle East stable and unified for centuries without any bloodshed or wars until the Christian Europeans came and done what their best at doing...

    • @goganii
      @goganii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@azamkhan1526 not really, but to be fair, they developed the lands quite a bit. Some of the best schools and hospitals in Syria are the French ones

    • @tubarao1143
      @tubarao1143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What?ahahah

  • @suburban404
    @suburban404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I was part of the Civil Affairs Command that went to Desert Storm. I wish this program had been available in 1990.

    • @Spartan412
      @Spartan412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Woah, that is really interesting. Do hope that future missions will take note of these events that TGW discussed when going out to the middle east.

    • @jjeherrera
      @jjeherrera 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Both the Americans and the British had plenty of Middle East experts who knew Dessert Storm was a terrible idea, but the governments never listened to them.

    • @samjohnston8818
      @samjohnston8818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think today we are inclined to believe that history is just the 24 hour news cycle. But when presented with explanation such as the one here the light goes on and it is clear that current events have their roots in the long distant past.

    • @TWE_2000
      @TWE_2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hey I'm also a Civil Affairs Specialist, I'm really interested in what you guys did during desert storm. What were your mission objectives. Got any stories that illustrates how CA can be effective and influential in obtaining the mission objective.

  • @MrBigCookieCrumble
    @MrBigCookieCrumble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    _"So.. how are we gonna redraw the Middle East, any ideas?"_
    "Perhaps we should send out a committe that will investigate the complex interracial relationsships, the cultural and ethnic backgrounds and local identities of the region in question to better determine who gets what land?"
    _"That sounds much to complicated.. How long do you think this will take?"_
    "Oh several years for sure!"
    _"Nonsense! Making up a new country on the spot can't be THAT hard!_
    _Let's see, a line here, a curve there, couple of scribbles.. and.. _*_boom!_*_ There, new country!"_

    • @mountainhobo
      @mountainhobo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ""Perhaps we should send out a committe that will investigate the complex interracial relationsships, the cultural and ethnic backgrounds and local identities of the region in question to better determine who gets what land?"" -- Yeah, right, because that will make any difference. No matter what you do in the Middle East, they will still cut each other's throats until a superpower arises and enslaves everyone, and then they will be happy again.

    • @mountainhobo
      @mountainhobo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Michael Moretti Ah, ad hominem... how sophisticated.

    • @mountainhobo
      @mountainhobo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Michael Moretti I didn't really expect you would understand the difference.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    It's very interetsing how you included those surveys of what the Arabs themselves thought about

    • @rogerhwerner6997
      @rogerhwerner6997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      It's more than interesting. I've been reading about this region for half a century, and I never knew these surveys existed. These should have been widely published decades ago.

    • @micahistory
      @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rogerhwerner6997 exactly

    • @AstroRamiEmad
      @AstroRamiEmad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm a Syrian and I do confirm these surveys ... People wanted Independence and disagreements were only about the shape of the independent state, a democratic kingdom or a republic.

    • @markhbeardsley5102
      @markhbeardsley5102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "55% of Lebanese respondents opposed the French influence in the area." So how many of the 55% were Christians?
      Seems like the survey might have been asking 100 wolves what was going to be served for lunch and 55 of them chose to have a Christian for their repast.

    • @micahistory
      @micahistory 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markhbeardsley5102 yeah maybe

  • @jackwilkes4188
    @jackwilkes4188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    Arabs: will you give us our own land after the War?
    U.K. and France: Yes, well actually no...

    • @ivvan497
      @ivvan497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      U.K. and France: No, I dont think I will.
      FTFY

    • @anderstopansson
      @anderstopansson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Arabs were nomads. They don´t need to own lands.

    • @lafeil
      @lafeil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If give them their land, things today would totally different.

    • @jackwilkes4188
      @jackwilkes4188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actionbastard. I know war is taking over land and asserting your control. In fact I agree with the British (as I am one). I was just merely making a joke.

    • @harshbansal7982
      @harshbansal7982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yesn’t

  • @walidhousni3186
    @walidhousni3186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Sykes: a Line from here to here...
    Picot: and another from here to here...
    Sykes: wait...I want this village for Britain
    Picot: oh c'mon...ok but I take this mountain for france
    Sykes: excellent!
    Arabs:...wait...you promised us to...
    Sykes: do you hear something?
    Picot:hmmm I think it's Italy who want some lands
    Sykes: oh..we can give them southern turkey
    Arabs: hellooooo?
    Sykes: uhum excellent! Finally peace in the middle east!
    *100 years later*

  • @sgp7931
    @sgp7931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This was a really interesting video

    • @jessealexander2695
      @jessealexander2695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hvala lepa.

    • @sgp7931
      @sgp7931 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jessealexander2695 I'm a male 😂

    • @jessealexander2695
      @jessealexander2695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sgp7931 I know - but my limited Serbian language skills don't :)

    • @sgp7931
      @sgp7931 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jessealexander2695 It's ok hahah

  • @extrahistory8956
    @extrahistory8956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    1:40 Allied Interests/ Great War Compromises
    6:00 Sykes-Picot Agreement
    8:31 French and British Rivalries Riel Up
    9:24 Wilson’s Fourteen Points/ Mandates/ League of Nation
    12:18 Arabs’ Thoughts/ Petitions
    16:20 Lebanon/ France, Faisal & Syria/ British Leave Syria
    20:04 San Remo/ Colonial “Mandates”

  • @donalddodson7365
    @donalddodson7365 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am always impressed with the scholarship, videography, scripts and narration by Jesse Alexander. Thank you.

  • @panicatthecostcofoodcourt6920
    @panicatthecostcofoodcourt6920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    This makes me so angry, the amount of conflict this causes in the future for nothing but pure greed

    • @michaeltayeby6242
      @michaeltayeby6242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Caused only by western Gangsters acting as a giant mafia in a pack

    • @ottomeyer6928
      @ottomeyer6928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      only the german wanted this right?

  • @Brainiac_124
    @Brainiac_124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Shooting in just a living room really made no significant difference to the content of the channel. Keep going!

  • @EKcyclist
    @EKcyclist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your channel has opened the skylight! So many conflicts, decisions and issues after the Great War that go largely unnoticed, yet are having impacts to this day. Absolutely superb; please keep up your excellent work!

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    British Government: And have you actually ever been to the Middle East?
    British Foreign Office worker: Nope.
    British Government: Well you're more than qualified to redraw it then.

  • @blackmichael75
    @blackmichael75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    "What does the word mandate mean?" It's another word for *colony*.

    • @blackmichael75
      @blackmichael75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @martin corderoy Or a satrapy!

  • @JohnnyAloha69
    @JohnnyAloha69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Excellent episode!

  • @BTNMNKI
    @BTNMNKI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    This video looks different than the others. Can't quite put my finger on it...
    Duh, of course!
    New glasses!

    • @sentteri
      @sentteri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was about to say new shoes. :D

  • @vector7035
    @vector7035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Learnt more history watching your channel than the 12 years I spent in school.

  • @SteelyBud
    @SteelyBud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The most productive thing I've done in my living room during COVID-19 lockdown is make a (still incomplete) list of my 20 favorite songs by Van Morrison. The Great War meanwhile is making invaluably educational videos on our history. Great job overcoming the obstacles, guys! Keep up the great work!

  • @Larkinchance
    @Larkinchance 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    During this current conflict in Ukraine, a friend and I argued back and forth. It was his position that borders are sacred. This was the position of the US corporate media,
    According to your lecture, the borders of the Middle-East were drawn by the French and the British. If you look back to 1880, so were the borders of Africa.
    The borders and disposition of the oil states were based of influence, money and military on the part of Britain and France, Democracy was not a factor...

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Borders have regularly been redrawn all throughout history. The US borders were continually redrawn.

  • @pedroivobatiston2408
    @pedroivobatiston2408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a special interest in this particular part of History and this is a great video (and there is a beautiful collection of books behind you). I have a profound fascination for the Middle East, and the video is very didactc and informative, as well as all the videos of this channel.

  • @viveksingh4
    @viveksingh4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You guys covered all the aspects of war very beautifully. The skyes-picot agreement, belfour agreement , and the Hussein-McMohan agreement together are the root cause of the present conflict between Israel and Palestine.

  • @cassiusijeomah4239
    @cassiusijeomah4239 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well Documented And Narrated

  • @hlynnkeith9334
    @hlynnkeith9334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jesse, I prefer this setting. You were more animated in this episode than when you sit at the desk.

  • @weltvonalex
    @weltvonalex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i like the stuff in your bookshelf

  • @fugeekue8741
    @fugeekue8741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    100 hundred years later, NOTHING has changed

  • @remybien3277
    @remybien3277 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Stay safe Jesse

  • @Guangrui
    @Guangrui 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    so it started

  • @tiggergolah
    @tiggergolah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the little artillery pieces on your shelf behind you. I have some on the shelf behind my desktop monitor... but my cat keeps climbing up there to knock them off the shelf.

  • @ibrahimg6068
    @ibrahimg6068 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    We need more on Arabia

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're one of the only channels where I like that you make long videos

  • @maciek_k.cichon
    @maciek_k.cichon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There's really nice movie about that, 'A Dangerous Man: Lawrence After Arabia' from 1992 with Ralph Fiennes and (Alexander) Siddig El-Fadil

    • @robertkopp873
      @robertkopp873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maciek K. Cichoń Agree with you. I have that on DVD.

    • @maciek_k.cichon
      @maciek_k.cichon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertkopp873 I've watch it on VHS :D

  • @culturehorse
    @culturehorse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is the opion of the council that this segment was commendably highly informative and hereby petition high offices of TGW to coninue this narrative in a part 2 and subsequent segment(s) as necessary. Thanks. from nYc.

  • @JasonSputnik
    @JasonSputnik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm up for the mandatory viewing! There's not a single video in which I don't learn much more, thanks a bunch!

  • @jimcouch2348
    @jimcouch2348 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very well done.

  • @donkeysaurusrex7881
    @donkeysaurusrex7881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Loved the episode, but I do have two quibbles. First, you correctly show Kuwait as a separate British area, but the shades of red for the borders and the “British mandates” make it easy to mistake it as part of Mesopotamia. This modern border between Kuwait and Saudi Arabia would not be set as shown until after British arbitration after fighting between them in the 1930s, but that’s a relatively minor thing.
    Second, Russia was also party to the Sykes-Picot Agreement which is why they were to gain territory in the partition. One might think the British and French were just going to give Russia land out of kindness without knowing that.

    • @jessealexander2695
      @jessealexander2695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Keen eyes! As for Russia - yes, you are right, but since they became less relevant after 1917 we didn't emphasize their role too much, but it does get a mention.

  • @hannahskipper2764
    @hannahskipper2764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did I miss this episode??
    Great job...🤦‍♀️

  • @tommy-er6hh
    @tommy-er6hh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Most histories, this excellent! one also, totally skip the struggle for Arabia itself - how the pro-British Al Saud in Najd in SE Arabia fought the Ottoman allies of Hail in Al Shamar in Central & NE Arabia, while Hussein Sharif of Mecca in the Hejaz revolted against the Ottomans in W Arabia (with Lawrence). So here is a summary:
    After the Ottoman WWI collapse, the Al Saud won their side, but then in 1924 the two old allies of the British went to war, Hussein in the West and Al Saud from the East for who would control Arabia. The British abandoned Hussein but supported Al Saud. Guess who won Saudi Arabia?
    In Yemen it was complicated also; pre-WWI Imam Yahya al-Mutawakkil semi-Independently controlled the inland mountain of the North Yemen while the Ottoman controlled the coast and lowlands. The Idrisid rebelled in the south with British help. After the war, there was intermittent wars between the British and their Idrisid allies of the south vs Imam Yahya in the North from 1922 to 1934. This resulted in the British Adan mandate and Kingdom of North Yemen.
    Imam Yahya also in 1932-34 invaded Saudi Arabia, was beat with British help, lost some provinces and had to settle for their present border.

    • @TheDirtysouthfan
      @TheDirtysouthfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't say the British "supported" Al Saud. In fact what happened was that there was a British double agent who fed information to Al Saud that the Hashemite Kingdom of the Hejaz didn't have the capability to withstand an attack from Al Saud.

    • @tommy-er6hh
      @tommy-er6hh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheDirtysouthfan POtato vs poTAto.

    • @TheDirtysouthfan
      @TheDirtysouthfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tommy-er6hh The guy in question was a traitor who would convert to Islam and become a member of the Saudi government. His son was also a British Double Agent selling out his country this time to the USSR.

  • @curlyfries2956
    @curlyfries2956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Idk why but I absolutely love the fact that the Arabs were okay with Lawrence of Arabia wearing the traditional head garb, and they saw it as a sign of peace and respect

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "cultural appropriation" has been invented by posh whites. people have always been happy to share their culture throughout history

    • @dustylover100
      @dustylover100 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lawrence was capable of relating with the Arabs on their terms.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    How many people do you want to promise the same land to?
    Uk: yes

    • @AshGamer007
      @AshGamer007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many comments did you posted?
      YES

    • @micahistory
      @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AshGamer007 TRUE lmao

  • @harshbansal7982
    @harshbansal7982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The thumbmail is me and the boys dividing the middle east like cake

    • @nunodiogo5745
      @nunodiogo5745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Loyd George and the Boys

  • @johnyns3437
    @johnyns3437 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, well done on narrating events pretty accurately

  • @kevinconrad6156
    @kevinconrad6156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18:28, what a lovely house.

  • @AvnerSenderowicz
    @AvnerSenderowicz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    first part of the video is the most accurate (yet concise) explanation for the root of many of the problems in today's middle east.
    the latter part lost the historic narrative a little bit in favor of trying to define what self determination "should" mean - but self determination is an ideal that was never practiced, not even by pre world wars America, and any attempt to explain or define what people of the middle east want is doomed to failure. the region is too diverse, fractured and complex to allow this to be defined and for the narrative of the video to try to pursue this line of thinking is implicitly forgoing historical narrative and adopting a moral one. which is ironic because that's just what Wilson tried to do and failed.

  • @habibhabib4505
    @habibhabib4505 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Long time no see this real kind of documentaries

  • @AstroRamiEmad
    @AstroRamiEmad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing work and really rare to see this level of professionalism and historical accuracy of our region from a Western channel. Salam to you from Syria, and I'm looking forward to your coverage of the Great Syrian Revolution for Independence by Sultan Basha al-Attrash (Druze minority who was leading all Syrians from all sects to freedom and independence)

  • @thechief00
    @thechief00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice book collection jesse

    • @thechief00
      @thechief00 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      also jealous of the tank and gun models back there

  • @thebunkerparodie6368
    @thebunkerparodie6368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My parent: "no,you can't be a the great war channel patreon",also my parent "yes you can bought a book or some model"

  • @atourversace4032
    @atourversace4032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job.

  • @claudermiller
    @claudermiller 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seeing the behavior of France and Great Britain I'm not so sure the better side won the war.

  • @JimJohnson777
    @JimJohnson777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “Things would not be as simple as the French and the British had expected.”

  • @sapphyrus
    @sapphyrus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That decision to revolt opened up a century of infighting, division and pseudo-colonial rule that endures to this day.

  • @neurofiedyamato8763
    @neurofiedyamato8763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really liked this episode, I feel like you are presenting in a more natural format? Its not the background or camera work. Maybe the script? I'm not sure, but I like the way this was presented.

  • @duckman12569
    @duckman12569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool Father model in the background.

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Whatever you do don't anger Middle Eastern carpenters. You'll never know what they'll do next. About 2000 years ago one started his own religion....

  • @simonwaldock9689
    @simonwaldock9689 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for continuing to produce content during the lockdown, it is appreciated. I'm now going to be incredibly geeky. I think the markings on the Mk.1 tank are anachronistic. IIRC the white-red-white markings were used for identification after the German army had captured a number of Mk.IVs long after the Mk.1s were withdrawn from service.

    • @jessealexander2695
      @jessealexander2695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You might be right - please send all complaints to the Cobi company ;)

  • @sebastianromansorg519
    @sebastianromansorg519 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the great and informative video.
    This will help me alot in my A levels :)

  • @colinwoodall6150
    @colinwoodall6150 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the MkV tank model on the shelf Jesse

  • @adameckard4591
    @adameckard4591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This conference could be considered the most important post WW1 conference of all. We feel the impact in the new millennium.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The problem is that the British promised the land to everyone, making everyone unhappy

    • @micahistory
      @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Anonymous Guy exactly

  • @MrBigCookieCrumble
    @MrBigCookieCrumble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jesse got such sharp eyes that when he's this close it's like.. he can see.. through my soul O.O
    Also, with that white shine in his pupils im beginning to suspect he's infact a synth from bladerunner.. Wich would make him a.. time travelling ww1 historian synth!

    • @AO00720
      @AO00720 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      New country:what am i?
      Great Britain:Palestine/Israel. You figure it out.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I didn't know that the Sykes-Picot agreement was changed but it makes sense since France didn't do much

    • @jjeherrera
      @jjeherrera 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right! I used to blame it, ignoring the events were more complex than that.

    • @alioshax7797
      @alioshax7797 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, France didn't do much in the Middle East, but was the main belligerant on the Western Front.

    • @micahistory
      @micahistory ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alioshax7797 yes

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always love it when you upload

  • @petercroves8562
    @petercroves8562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Husayn nd of Jordan [1952-1999] was the Great-grandson of Husayn 1st , King of Hijaz[1916-1924]

    • @suleyman8696
      @suleyman8696 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      was he king of syria in 1918 ?

  • @jovanweismiller7114
    @jovanweismiller7114 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want to check out the books in your 'COVID-19 lockdown studio'!!

  • @giorgigio3502
    @giorgigio3502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    very interesting info thx for your work

  • @Autobotmatt428
    @Autobotmatt428 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And thus giving way to many of are modern conflicts

  • @edward6902
    @edward6902 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a lot of slim customers in bowler hats…and it has all worked out so well

  • @aldemir6127
    @aldemir6127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't wait to hear the remaining of the turmoil.

  • @kdakan
    @kdakan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In summary, middle east was invaded, not liberated, by the uk and to a little extent by france, and the majority of the population ended up being sorrow because their voices were not heard in the new political systems and the new country borders, as well as colonial mandate forced upon them.

    • @offshoretomorrow3346
      @offshoretomorrow3346 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So the British and French are still there in the land they didn't liberate?

  • @jaixzz
    @jaixzz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    00:22 "... had been an active theatre of fighting..." ?

  • @TheGreatWar
    @TheGreatWar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Support us and get 40% off Nebula: go.nebula.tv/the-great-war
    Watch 16 Days in Berlin on Nebula: nebula.tv/videos/16-days-in-berlin-01-prologue-the-beginning-of-the-end?ref=the-great-war

    • @Barsabus
      @Barsabus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice comercials. Keep up the hard work.

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's because of technocrats. "I'm smarter than you, I think I know better, therefore you have no power/influence over your own self." It's the same as what happens today.

    • @VictorSilva-qf2tu
      @VictorSilva-qf2tu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I recently learned that the Composer Carl Orff was a infantry man in the german army in ww1. I didn't find much about his participation in the war but I believe it's worthy of a "who did what" episode.

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm betting the next video is going to be in this guy's living room too.

    • @supergoodg7g6ycyv78
      @supergoodg7g6ycyv78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Japanese empire malaya 1941 1945 history world video

  • @wrightgraham1677
    @wrightgraham1677 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are the chances of you ever releasing a dvd format of previous episodes. I would love to be able to watch the whole.series withoit always starting new videos

  • @seethrough_treeshrew
    @seethrough_treeshrew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder what the Middle East would look like if France and Britain would've just packed up and left after the war.

    • @Shinji_1943
      @Shinji_1943 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There would still have been conflict between religious or ethnic groups.

    • @seethrough_treeshrew
      @seethrough_treeshrew 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shinji_1943 And how can you be so sure?

    • @Shinji_1943
      @Shinji_1943 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seethrough_treeshrew Where ever there is differences there is conflict. Not saying it would be everlasting but there still would have undoubtedly been conflict between say Shia or Sunni blocs for influence in the region, between Persians, Turks, Arabs or Kurds or even plainly over ideology like we have seen elsewhere across the globe, Monarchy versus Republic, Socialism versus Capitalism, Religious versus Secular.

  • @raymondhorvath2406
    @raymondhorvath2406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi would be great if you could do a special on Australian sacrifice in ww1 from 1914-1918 from Europe to Middle East for a small nation the ANZACS had a appalling death injury rate from our boys as a Australian we often get overlooked .thank you keep up the great work

  • @Dragblacker
    @Dragblacker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd propose a compromise between the "single Arab state" and "Sykes-Picot" plans:
    1) Excluding the Gulf States already under the British, split Arabia into two countries, Saudi Arabia and "Hashemite Arabia" aka "Greater Jordan", which would include Jordan, Syria and half of Iraq.
    2) The rest of Iraq can be Kurdistan; perhaps the whole area between the Euphrates and the Zagros Mountains (which separate Iran and modern Iraq), and between the modern Turkish border and Baghdad.
    3) Exclude from Hashemite Arabia modern-day Lebanon (for the Maronite Christians) and the British Mandate (which will become Israel)
    Lebanon would be under the French or at least French influence until some later date when full independence is granted. Likewise the Syrian and Iraqi portions of this greater Hashemite Kingdom would have French and British spheres of influence respectively until some later date. Maybe Kurdistan too would have British protection.
    Would this bring peace? Not necessarily, not unless you stamp out all jihadi movements. But it'll at least get rid of the issue of arbitrary nations carved out of nothing.

    • @AshGamer007
      @AshGamer007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Wahabism ideology funded by The Sauds is cause of Terrorism. So existence of the Sauds can never bring peace in Middle East

    • @aurangzeb_art
      @aurangzeb_art ปีที่แล้ว

      Jihad means struggle

  • @kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168
    @kemalistdevrimturkaydnlanm168 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Arabs did not suffer under Turkish rule as they were considered a Holly race as Muhammad was an Arab , therefore they were left alone. One might argue they were not ruled properly.

  • @ericvantassell6809
    @ericvantassell6809 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the sound of "mandatory viewing"!

  • @ivvan497
    @ivvan497 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    House tour when?

  • @jarrahdrum
    @jarrahdrum 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    fascinating, thank you so much

  • @petersutcliffe4927
    @petersutcliffe4927 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    them models on the shelf are pretty cool :)

  • @alihani1830
    @alihani1830 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @timcurry192
    @timcurry192 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay Jesse's living room! Uh...books. What a surprise.

  • @valentinstoyanov304
    @valentinstoyanov304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Natural borders" - how clear and un-vague :-)

  • @MikeMaris
    @MikeMaris 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this new more classic yt look, reminds me of the old days lol

  • @AshGamer007
    @AshGamer007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fact: Hashemites calls themselves descendant of Prophet Muhammed (SA.) through Ali and Fatema. Hussain Bin Ali claimed himself as Caliph after the caliphate in Turkey was abolished.

  • @darthcalanil5333
    @darthcalanil5333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    the French hypocrisy is just baffling. Protector of the Christians that is somehow concerned with only a very specific tiny community, while ignoring the much larger Christian population all over Syria.
    In all honesty, I don't know whether an independent Hashimite kingdom would have been better, especially since the Arabs of the Hijaz have just as much to do with Syria and Mesopotamia as France and Britain. I hate to imagine a Saudi Arabia that extends from the Mediterranean to the Indian ocean.

    • @youngbloodbanana3376
      @youngbloodbanana3376 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?

    • @cdw2468
      @cdw2468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      but the house of Saud might not have been in charge

    • @hussainpainter52
      @hussainpainter52 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Hashemite Dynasty is different from the House of Saud i.e. Saudi Arabia

    • @EnergizedGamingGuy
      @EnergizedGamingGuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are hypocrites. They were protecting Catholics

    • @AshGamer007
      @AshGamer007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think an independent Hashemites Kingdom controlling all of Arabia (The middle eastern part) will be better than what's going on today. If Saudi Arabia didn't existed Wahabism won't have the influence it has in the today's world. So Islamic Terrorism won't exist. Also after the abolition of Caliphate in Turkey. Hussein Bin Ali declared himself Caliph of all Muslims (But then he was ousted by the Sauds from Hejaz). The Hashemites are the descendants of Prophet Muhammed (SA.) through Ali and Fatema. So the Shia's won't have any problem having him as Caliph. Also the Wahabist calls the Shia's "Kafir" which fuels the Sunni Shia conflict today.

  • @dps6198
    @dps6198 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You can blame the current mess in the Middle East on the British and the French for doing what they did back in 1920s after the war

  • @ibnyahud
    @ibnyahud 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @petercroves8562
    @petercroves8562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi from peter in Woodstock ONT Canada--Keep safe and you doing Great with all going on, Hussein is some times known as Hussein 1st, while the father of today's king of the Kingdom of Jordan is sometimes called Hussein 2nd[this is in regards to the Dynasty-not what was ruled I would like to point out]

  • @jiversteve
    @jiversteve 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice ending!