Thank you for posting this. It is exactly what I have been looking for. I used adapters to connect to the bottle fitting and the double regulation lowered the pressure too much and it would not cook like it should. Your solution is better than I was hoping as you can still use bottles when needed. Great Job.
Nice detailed video, very helpful, thank you! I did this modification to my 285 today, it has the same basic setup. Since the M8 X 0.75 fitting is so hard to come by, I used a 5/16" brass compression fitting to connect to the tube instead, worked out well, no leaks. 8MM is within a few thousandths of an inch of 5/16, well withing the working range of a compression fitting.
Just bought your kit on ebay. Hopefully fixes the original low pressure system the grill came with. Ive been using the bottles for over a year but recently it started going into low pressure mode and the flames are loww.! Unusable. Im just trying to bypass the original regulator so hopefully this works for me.
Somebody has a source for the metric fitting and is selling a kit with instructions on eBay using a screenshot from this video showing what it should look like installed. 11:51 I found it searching for stuff to modify the 285 I just got yesterday. Your information gives me what I need to find or make. So I can use the 285 with the low pressure system on my camper. Thanks!
Great video thanks. I am having trouble getting started and removing the threaded end cap off. It seems to be stuck or at least requiring significant torque to loosen. Anyone have similar experience and a preferred method which didn't damage the internal gas tube?
Hi! Thank you so much for posting this! Had been scratching my head... We just bought a Coleman X-cursion and can't find the infamous M8 adapter... How difficult would it be to remove the regulator altogether? Would you expect it to have another M8 connection on that end too? Does anyone else have a source for the M8 adapter?
I did remove the regulator, because I was curious, and it was not difficult, but it was an M8 on that side, too. I am unfortunately out of extras, now, and do not know any other source for them, but let me know if you find any so we can make others aware!
So can the regulator be removed completely and then you can just screw a hose into the bottom to connect to the quick connect of the RV? Do you happen to have a video on how to do that part?
@@loblightsonblairmont5892 you could certainly do that if you don't plan to ever use the 1lb bottles, and it would probably be the same adaptors and pipes, but no cutting/drilling necessary! I unfortunately do not have a video, but if I recall correctly, there is some sort of square section of the regulator that makes it easier to get a wrench onto it and get it off. I don't think it was super tight, but I believe it had some sort of threadlock on it that needed some elbow grease.
thanks for the video, i am looking because i have the same grill - but my flames are very low, so was looking where the regulator is,, Any idea how to fix the Low flame situation on this ? i am using 1 LB propane bottles. Thanks
That's weird...if you're certain that the bottle you're using is full, that would suggest either a problem with the regulator, a leak somewhere, improper jets, or a plumbing issue. Did you get the grill new? I don't recall what the warranty was on this, but seems like they might be able to help you out. If you got it used, it's possible that the jets were replaced to make it use natural gas, instead of propane. I can't remember which jets are bigger/smaller, though.
I have seen that, but my understanding was that the normal 1lb containers are not made for reuse and that can be a bit dangerous. I think I saw some 1lb containers that are built for it, but they were pricey. I much rather just use the large tank that's mounted to the camper 😁
So I duplicated your set-up for a Roadside 285. The inside of the control panel is the same, but with three valves. When I hooked up the propane form the RV the grill worked, but I found that propane was also leaking out of the 1 lb. spin on regulator. Did oyu not have a problem with this?
I haven't run into this yet, but someone else mentioned that issue and said they just got some sort of plug that resolved the issue...if you search through the other comments you will probably find that one.
I looked back through my comments and realized it was an email that someone mentioned this in, not a comment...sorry about that. They said "I did have to add another adapter with a plug to the 1lb propane port so gas wouldn’t come out when connecting the new port to the RV" so it may have been a little more than a simple plug, but it does seem to me like screwing on an empty bottle would accomplish the same thing 🤷♂️
I've heard that being an issue for some people, so they've used a cap or just left a canister on to prevent that, but mine doesn't have that issue, so I assume it has a one-way valve in it
So I just finished my modification however, I have gas leaking through the regulator port on my grill, when I use the modified line. I assumed the regulator would have a one-way valve, but that seems to not be the case. What did you do to keep the propane from seeping out of the original connection?
I've heard of others having that same issue, so I wonder if they use two different regulator models and one has a better one-way valve than the other? I didn't do anything special, it just didn't leak
The attachment is at a low-pressure point of the grill, meaning that it must be connected to a low-pressure supply. This can either be just a hose connected to a RV propane system that has a system-wide regulator at the tank, or a 20lb tank with the hose/regulator combo.
That seems like a possibility, but I'm not sure if 1lb and 20 lb containers are the same pressures for the input of the regulators, so I'm not 100% certain of whether or not that would work right...
@@LifeIsForEnjoying all you need is a high pressure propane hose with adapter lol ace hardware has them and coalman. Inables use if big propane tank on a camp stove.
@@cristovalmontoya5222 nice! I figured that might be a thing but hadn't tried, since I was primarily doing the conversion to connect to the RVs low-pressure system. Makes since that if you're just trying to use bigger containers, you could use them directly like that. Thanks for verifying and letting me know!
Heh, that seems a little sketch, but maybe? Some people commented that they had a shop crimp a hose on that seemed like a good alternative if you can't find a fitting...might be worth looking into that option
If it’s the right size it would be strong. It’s soldered with a torch just like copper water pipe which is a real high pressure connection. My concern with the hose crimp would be also using a 16oz propane tank occasionally which is high pressure. It could blow the hose off. If used exclusively as a low pressure grill it would be fine. Would you happen to know what the OD is of the copper tubing?
I believe there are some comments from people that found a source, but it is stainless instead of brass. Supposedly that is fine in this application, but I would personally prefer brass on all the fittings
Thanks for your reply. It’s crazy it’s so hard to find. Do you know if the new 285 series uses the same adapter size. Based on one of your followers comments I would assume it’s the same flame control system and tubing size as the one you did but wasn’t sure.
An M8 x 1.0 would not thread onto the threads that are already there, unless you use a tap and die to re-thread them, but I would definitely be worried about it leaking if you did that. I remember seeing some adapters that were the right size, but not brass. Others have had success with those, but I don't fully know the advantages/disadvantages of using brass vs other materials.
If anybody else needs that hard to find M8 x 0.75 to NPT adaptor, I have 2 more extras left, so if you PM me your address and PayPal/venmo me $10 to cover shipping and the part, I can send one your way. Once I'm out, I'm out and you will need to find it somewhere else, unfortunately.
I unfortunately do not and it took quite a bit of digging to find that one. If you can't find it, I believe I still have a couple extras, since that came as a 5-pack. If you want to send me a PM with your address and can PayPal/venmo me a few bucks, I can send you one of them.
Hello Michael! I am doing same thing with my similar grill and had the same exact question! After a lot of research I have found a piece on “fitting.space”. I can confirm they are a legit site. Called customer service to confirm. Piece came fast and it fits! Below is the link. Hope this helps you! www.fittings.space/gtm2p-02zm-m8x08f
I do remember seeing that one quite a few times in my searches, but would be hesitant to use it, since it is stainless and not brass. If I recall correctly, you should generally use brass for propane plumbing, but maybe it would be fine for short, intermittent usage? I'm not an expert, but that's why I personally avoided using that one.
Good to know! So for everyone else looking for that pesky adaptor, feel free to do your own research, but it sounds like there is another source for it!
Some people have commented that this was an issue for them, but it has not happened for me, so I guess it depends! Some people have come up with a way to cap the regulator, but you could also remove it and move the cap to that end of the pipe, if you don't plan on using the small bottles any more.
I am not sure if you can see this link but I wanted to convert the Coleman 285 BBQ for RV quick connect, found it hard to come by the metric (M8 x 0.75) to NPT (1/8") fitting and came up with this solution. www.keystoneforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=460084#post460084
Thank you for posting this. It is exactly what I have been looking for. I used adapters to connect to the bottle fitting and the double regulation lowered the pressure too much and it would not cook like it should. Your solution is better than I was hoping as you can still use bottles when needed. Great Job.
Thanks! Hopefully it works for you, and feel free to let me know if you have questions or issues!
Question- do you have a conversion for the roadtrip 285 ?
I do not, but from what I can tell online, it looks like a similar design, so you might be able to use the same solution
Nice detailed video, very helpful, thank you! I did this modification to my 285 today, it has the same basic setup. Since the M8 X 0.75 fitting is so hard to come by, I used a 5/16" brass compression fitting to connect to the tube instead, worked out well, no leaks. 8MM is within a few thousandths of an inch of 5/16, well withing the working range of a compression fitting.
Oh wow, good idea! Thanks for the tip!
Do you have a link where you purchased that from? I'm having a difficult time finding this elbow. Thank you.
@@Griffshawn1 I used a 5/16 compression fitting from my local hardware store.
Nice work I was about to go buy a diff grill, tried to figure this out for a year now. That just saved me, thanks for parts list
No problem! It took a lot of trial and error, so I figured I would save someone else the hassle, haha
@@LifeIsForEnjoying would you send me this parts list as well
@@LifeIsForEnjoying Email address . Is warkworthjim@gmail.com if you can send me the parts list ?
Just bought your kit on ebay. Hopefully fixes the original low pressure system the grill came with. Ive been using the bottles for over a year but recently it started going into low pressure mode and the flames are loww.! Unusable. Im just trying to bypass the original regulator so hopefully this works for me.
Somebody has a source for the metric fitting and is selling a kit with instructions on eBay using a screenshot from this video showing what it should look like installed. 11:51
I found it searching for stuff to modify the 285 I just got yesterday. Your information gives me what I need to find or make. So I can use the 285 with the low pressure system on my camper.
Thanks!
I had no idea someone was doing that, thanks for the info!
Great video thanks. I am having trouble getting started and removing the threaded end cap off. It seems to be stuck or at least requiring significant torque to loosen. Anyone have similar experience and a preferred method which didn't damage the internal gas tube?
Could you just hook up a 20 lb propane tank and a hose without a regulator to this grill and let the grill’s built in regulator handle the flow?
Super video. Just what I needed. Thanks.
Hi! Thank you so much for posting this! Had been scratching my head... We just bought a Coleman X-cursion and can't find the infamous M8 adapter... How difficult would it be to remove the regulator altogether? Would you expect it to have another M8 connection on that end too? Does anyone else have a source for the M8 adapter?
I did remove the regulator, because I was curious, and it was not difficult, but it was an M8 on that side, too. I am unfortunately out of extras, now, and do not know any other source for them, but let me know if you find any so we can make others aware!
So can the regulator be removed completely and then you can just screw a hose into the bottom to connect to the quick connect of the RV? Do you happen to have a video on how to do that part?
@@loblightsonblairmont5892 you could certainly do that if you don't plan to ever use the 1lb bottles, and it would probably be the same adaptors and pipes, but no cutting/drilling necessary! I unfortunately do not have a video, but if I recall correctly, there is some sort of square section of the regulator that makes it easier to get a wrench onto it and get it off. I don't think it was super tight, but I believe it had some sort of threadlock on it that needed some elbow grease.
I only ever plan to use the quick connect. I was hoping there was a way to remove the regulator in the grill without needing the same pieces.
You can remove the regulator, but since that's also an m8x0.75 thread, it will require the same sort of adaptor setup, unfortunately
thanks for the video, i am looking because i have the same grill - but my flames are very low, so was looking where the regulator is,, Any idea how to fix the Low flame situation on this ? i am using 1 LB propane bottles. Thanks
That's weird...if you're certain that the bottle you're using is full, that would suggest either a problem with the regulator, a leak somewhere, improper jets, or a plumbing issue. Did you get the grill new? I don't recall what the warranty was on this, but seems like they might be able to help you out. If you got it used, it's possible that the jets were replaced to make it use natural gas, instead of propane. I can't remember which jets are bigger/smaller, though.
I cannot find M8x0.75 to 1/8 NPT anymore. There are a lot M8x1 to M6x0.75
Refill your 1 lb containers from a 20lb tank. There is an adaptor available to do this.
I have seen that, but my understanding was that the normal 1lb containers are not made for reuse and that can be a bit dangerous. I think I saw some 1lb containers that are built for it, but they were pricey. I much rather just use the large tank that's mounted to the camper 😁
Can you post link for the fitting please
@@LifeIsForEnjoying Wrong. They CAN be refilled but they cannot be SOLD.
So I duplicated your set-up for a Roadside 285. The inside of the control panel is the same, but with three valves. When I hooked up the propane form the RV the grill worked, but I found that propane was also leaking out of the 1 lb. spin on regulator. Did oyu not have a problem with this?
I haven't run into this yet, but someone else mentioned that issue and said they just got some sort of plug that resolved the issue...if you search through the other comments you will probably find that one.
@@LifeIsForEnjoying Thank for the reply but I did not find a comment or link to a plug. If you or anyone finds one, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
I looked back through my comments and realized it was an email that someone mentioned this in, not a comment...sorry about that. They said "I did have to add another adapter with a plug to the 1lb propane port so gas wouldn’t come out when connecting the new port to the RV" so it may have been a little more than a simple plug, but it does seem to me like screwing on an empty bottle would accomplish the same thing 🤷♂️
So I'm fashioning a plug from this adapter and a 1/4" NPT FIP cap purchased at local hardware store.
www.amazon.com/dp/B000BQN4IS?tag=enilme-20
Nice! That should do it!
When using it hooked up to quick connect, does gas leak out of the small propane location?
I've heard that being an issue for some people, so they've used a cap or just left a canister on to prevent that, but mine doesn't have that issue, so I assume it has a one-way valve in it
You can refill the 1 lb container
So I just finished my modification however, I have gas leaking through the regulator port on my grill, when I use the modified line. I assumed the regulator would have a one-way valve, but that seems to not be the case. What did you do to keep the propane from seeping out of the original connection?
I've heard of others having that same issue, so I wonder if they use two different regulator models and one has a better one-way valve than the other? I didn't do anything special, it just didn't leak
Great video man
Thank you!
So a hose with a regulator Is a must right ?
The attachment is at a low-pressure point of the grill, meaning that it must be connected to a low-pressure supply. This can either be just a hose connected to a RV propane system that has a system-wide regulator at the tank, or a 20lb tank with the hose/regulator combo.
Can youjust use a hose to your 20 lb tank without a regulator and use the one on grill for small 1 lb tank abd 20 lb tank.
That seems like a possibility, but I'm not sure if 1lb and 20 lb containers are the same pressures for the input of the regulators, so I'm not 100% certain of whether or not that would work right...
@@LifeIsForEnjoying all you need is a high pressure propane hose with adapter lol ace hardware has them and coalman. Inables use if big propane tank on a camp stove.
@@cristovalmontoya5222 nice! I figured that might be a thing but hadn't tried, since I was primarily doing the conversion to connect to the RVs low-pressure system. Makes since that if you're just trying to use bigger containers, you could use them directly like that. Thanks for verifying and letting me know!
What 1/4in quick disconnect hose did you use to the 20 lb propane. Cant seem to find it
If you drill holes in the disposible ones and smash them most recycle places will take them.
Interesting, I had not heard that one, thanks!
Any canadian provo park has dozens of bins to dispose of those for free
How do I get the US on board with that?
Any chance the outside diameter is close enough to solder on a standard size (not metric) fitting if you cut off the thread at the end?
Heh, that seems a little sketch, but maybe? Some people commented that they had a shop crimp a hose on that seemed like a good alternative if you can't find a fitting...might be worth looking into that option
If it’s the right size it would be strong. It’s soldered with a torch just like copper water pipe which is a real high pressure connection. My concern with the hose crimp would be also using a 16oz propane tank occasionally which is high pressure. It could blow the hose off. If used exclusively as a low pressure grill it would be fine. Would you happen to know what the OD is of the copper tubing?
Anybody come up with a source for the m8x.75 x 1/8ntp? Does the new Roadtrip 285 have the same connection?
I believe there are some comments from people that found a source, but it is stainless instead of brass. Supposedly that is fine in this application, but I would personally prefer brass on all the fittings
www.fittings.space/gtm2p-02zm-m8x08f
Thanks for your reply. It’s crazy it’s so hard to find. Do you know if the new 285 series uses the same adapter size. Based on one of your followers comments I would assume it’s the same flame control system and tubing size as the one you did but wasn’t sure.
@@marcw201 no clue, sorry 😐
can I use a M8 x 1.00 to 1/8" NPT...I cannot seem to find the 0.75. Will it leak when I use a 1.00 adapter?
An M8 x 1.0 would not thread onto the threads that are already there, unless you use a tap and die to re-thread them, but I would definitely be worried about it leaking if you did that. I remember seeing some adapters that were the right size, but not brass. Others have had success with those, but I don't fully know the advantages/disadvantages of using brass vs other materials.
@@LifeIsForEnjoying thank you...I will keep looking. Let me know if you know where I can find the right fitting THANKS!
@@edqlee Here's the one that other people have had luck with: www.fittings.space/gtm2p-02zm-m8x08f
Would you be willing to send me your parts list. Just picked up this grill. TIA
It should already be in the video description
If anybody else needs that hard to find M8 x 0.75 to NPT adaptor, I have 2 more extras left, so if you PM me your address and PayPal/venmo me $10 to cover shipping and the part, I can send one your way. Once I'm out, I'm out and you will need to find it somewhere else, unfortunately.
PM you here or FB?
Annnnd the last one I have is now claimed by T Shafer II! Sorry, everyone...hope future viewers can find the part elsewhere!
Do you still have the spare adapter?
Nope, sorry...as the previous comment mentions, T Shafer II got the last spare
do you still have them
Do you know of another source for the M8 x 0.75 fitting ebay is sold out.
I unfortunately do not and it took quite a bit of digging to find that one. If you can't find it, I believe I still have a couple extras, since that came as a 5-pack. If you want to send me a PM with your address and can PayPal/venmo me a few bucks, I can send you one of them.
Hello Michael! I am doing same thing with my similar grill and had the same exact question! After a lot of research I have found a piece on “fitting.space”. I can confirm they are a legit site. Called customer service to confirm. Piece came fast and it fits! Below is the link. Hope this helps you!
www.fittings.space/gtm2p-02zm-m8x08f
I do remember seeing that one quite a few times in my searches, but would be hesitant to use it, since it is stainless and not brass. If I recall correctly, you should generally use brass for propane plumbing, but maybe it would be fine for short, intermittent usage? I'm not an expert, but that's why I personally avoided using that one.
I thought the same thing. After doing some research on that as well, it is 100% safe to use for this particular situation!
Good to know! So for everyone else looking for that pesky adaptor, feel free to do your own research, but it sounds like there is another source for it!
Could I convert to natural?
I don't see why not...probably need different jets or something? No clue, I've never done that before
Got to drill out the jets.
When using the low pressure input can gas come out where the 1lb tanks connect?
Some people have commented that this was an issue for them, but it has not happened for me, so I guess it depends! Some people have come up with a way to cap the regulator, but you could also remove it and move the cap to that end of the pipe, if you don't plan on using the small bottles any more.
I am not sure if you can see this link but I wanted to convert the Coleman 285 BBQ for RV quick connect, found it hard to come by the metric (M8 x 0.75) to NPT (1/8") fitting and came up with this solution.
www.keystoneforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=460084#post460084
Oh nice....I didn't even think about having someone clamp it!
@@LifeIsForEnjoying Yes, more than enough PSI on those clamps for a low pressure system
What is the name of black pipe with quick connector?