Wagner - Götterdämmerung - Hoi-ho! - Bayreuth Festival

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  • Hagen - Josef Greindl
    Bayreuth Festival Orchestra and Chorus
    photo - Josef Greindl as Hagen

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  • @violinthief
    @violinthief  12 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Congratuations to GoDigital MG for submitting the most ridiculous copyright claim yet - that they own the musical composition. Gotterdammerung was written 150 years ago! TH-cam has gotten ridiculous - all I can do is dispute the bogus claim. If GoDigital responds that it is valid, even though it isn't, they get the last word and collect royalties from my video. This system is broken.

  • @Benzos4live
    @Benzos4live 13 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Richard Wagner, du warst und bleibst ein GOTT!

  • @MarkyMarc78
    @MarkyMarc78 13 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Götterdämmerung, Bayreuth 1958
    Conducted by Hans Knappertsbush
    Chorus master: Wilhelm Pitz

  • @ContraPoints
    @ContraPoints 12 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    @violinthief Yeah, I had to dispute a claim that UMG owned the rights to my own performance of a Mozart sonata. It's ridiculous.

  • @Loge84
    @Loge84 15 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Grossartig! Eine meiner Lieblingstellen von der Goetterdaemmerung und des ganzes Ringes! Das Orchester scheint ein bisschen zu gedaempft zu speilen, aber CHOR!!!! das ist einfach die beste, die maechtigste Interpretation von Mannenchor, die ich je gehoert habe, und ihr koennt mir glauben, ich hab schon meeeeeehrmals den "Ring" erlebt! Boulez/Cherreu oder Barenboim/Kupfer beispielweise haetten diesen Interpreten beim besten Willen nicht das Wasser reichen koennen! Herzlichsten Dank:)

  • @AlfredReinoldBaudisch
    @AlfredReinoldBaudisch 12 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I don't get tired of listening to this every day. It boost productivity (game programming).

  • @violinthief
    @violinthief  11 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks, Lewis. Wagner had his rants, but it didn't really affect his professional conduct. As a conductor, he regularly worked with Jewish musicians. His operas were in large part financed by jews, and he personally chose Jewish conductor Hermann Levi to direct the premiere of Parsifal.
    Much of Wagner's ranting seems to stem from his personal feud with Jewish composer Meyerbeer. Sadly, Wagner took it to extremes. One silly example was wearing gloves whenever he conducted Mendelssohn.

  • @chepin85
    @chepin85 13 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have always been impressed Greind's trill in this scene with chorus(5:12)

  • @windstorm1000
    @windstorm1000 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    looks like a Wieland w. production--he tastefully expanded past the originals--unlike today's crazy, egocentric directors and their industrialist nightmares.

  • @KarstenKriwat
    @KarstenKriwat 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beeindruckende Vorstellung. das ist noch das alte Bayreuth - wie ich es liebe!

  • @oscar7racso
    @oscar7racso 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cuando escuchas esta pieza, simplemente crees que el mundo esta a tus pies.

  • @nordicpower88
    @nordicpower88 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The finale is completely exquisite.

  • @seukfuhi
    @seukfuhi 13 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    So sad that choruses are only used in one of the Ring's episodes. Wagner had such an ability to make them sound great.

  • @gaemp
    @gaemp 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Josef Greindl was also a great Koenig Marke in Furtwaengler's Tristan.

  • @Johnny1206
    @Johnny1206 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I die here! This music is magnificent, unique, Götlich!

  • @MrTifossi83
    @MrTifossi83 12 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Que decir de Richard Wagner uno de los genios mas grandes que ha visto la raza humana y como humano, solo es propidad de la raza humana.Hombres como Wagner nos ayudan ha ser mucho mas felices.
    Jose Martin Iborra

  • @Sentubeyim
    @Sentubeyim 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a LP, Bayreuth Festival published in the 60 years by Deuttche Gramophon. This part was one of my favourites.

  • @aetion
    @aetion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wonderful singing. A great Wagnerian, indeed!

  • @exodus82hell
    @exodus82hell 13 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i love this music

  • @schlockading
    @schlockading 12 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So this is where the Seven Dwarfs got it from...

  • @JSC1401
    @JSC1401 12 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fantastic chorus work :)

  • @windstorm1000
    @windstorm1000 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    could that we could return to these marvelous minamalist productions.

  • @ArnoArtner
    @ArnoArtner 14 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6.32 is fantastic

  • @ajb1776
    @ajb1776 13 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    As grand as Wagner himself. Nobody makes the ground shake like Wagner.

  • @Erge08
    @Erge08 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Apparently Wagner not only invented the leitmotif, the tristan chord and the wagner tuba, but also the phone. (Although I guess it that was invented in 1876 already...?)
    In any case: Great performance!

  • @mrboombasticx
    @mrboombasticx 15 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow! What a huge voice!

  • @wotancat1
    @wotancat1 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What a voice

  • @LeRinkRat
    @LeRinkRat 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow!!! for a 1958 recording it's EXCELLENT. kudos to the sound engineer that did the re-master. most pre-digital analog's I have heard of Wagner are scratchy and weak in range.
    is this Gotterdammerung available on CD box set? who sings Siegfried and Brünnhilde?

  • @Sentubeyim
    @Sentubeyim 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Eu tinha um LP da Deutsche Gramophon "Festival de Bayreuth" dos anos 60 com trechos das principais óperas de Wagner. Esta, uma das minhas favoritas, eu encontrei tal qual estava no disco. Está difícil encontrar as outras.

  • @Loismustdie26
    @Loismustdie26 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @Goetterreien lol, Thor was in the Rheingold but not again, this is Hagen.

  • @erictaieb7861
    @erictaieb7861 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Joseph Greindl sings, but the conductor is Wilhelm Pitz, from the disc Wagner-Chöre, with the Bayreuth Festival Orchestra.

  • @plutarco7890
    @plutarco7890 15 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Magnificent rendition

  • @jordipanadesribera6890
    @jordipanadesribera6890 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wundervoll !

  • @jamesm1509
    @jamesm1509 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wagner was also an idealogical favorite of the soviets PRE-1941

  • @tenorschofield
    @tenorschofield 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    BRAVOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @1955porsche
    @1955porsche 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the early 1950s era recordings w Hans Knappertbusch i reccomend to those who like Wagner,,, great reccordings

  • @LempArts
    @LempArts 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    fnd111 - read Wagner's biography. He housed Mikhail Bakunin in the 1840s for the purpose of inciting a Marxist revolt in Saxony which happened, and Wagner was on the front line. He was a wanted man in Saxony in exile when he wrote the Ring which, I agree with Bernard Shaw, is a metaphor for the proletarian uprising he was part of just a few years earlier. Wagner said of his work "if this is performed correctly it will have to be banned; it's too dangerous."

  • @11Kralle
    @11Kralle 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @XxRedVampirexX
    They sing `Was wagen?´ (What is to dare?) - I have been reading much of Wagners lyrics and found them very awkward. One could say it is `Wagner-deutsch´/Wagner-german - a language which only exists on stage...

  • @windstorm1000
    @windstorm1000 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok, this is a very tastful modern productin which still preserves the ancient archetypes/customes and FEEL of the past--I'm not fusty...this is Wieland's I think...

  • @11redlions
    @11redlions 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    people are such geeks, Hitler also liked cream pastries, & lentils, the list goes on, I've been to the Eagles Nest, anyone else here? so what if he liked Wagner.

  • @Ambrose-the-Poet
    @Ambrose-the-Poet 13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Märchenhaft!!! Der göttliche Richard...

  • @tatcov
    @tatcov 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Copyright claim on the opera itself? Time for the Valkyries to kick some ass!

  • @АлександраДимитрова-т4е
    @АлександраДимитрова-т4е 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wonderful performance!

  • @elcheroish
    @elcheroish 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think this great musical piece is part of Parsifal!

  • @ShermanM36
    @ShermanM36 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @pietrovaldes It is a recording from Bayreuth festival 1958 the conductor was Willhelm PITZ

  • @Mr28121940
    @Mr28121940 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awe inspiring & full of dignified grandeur. No matter if Hitler's Nuremberg rally was inspired by Wagner's grand operas.

  • @nancysqueaks
    @nancysqueaks 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is sublime - no problems until the world comes back to you.

  • @partisan49
    @partisan49 12 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    this music can pump german nationalism into anyone's veins!

  • @violinthief
    @violinthief  12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @MrElfro89 MrElfro - that's a correct but erroneous observation. GoDigital claimed rights to the sheet music, not the audio recording. My earlier comment made that distinction clear. Around 100,000 people have watched this video since my comment without making the same mistake as you. Remind me NOT to make you a lifeline next time I'm on a quiz show.

  • @JimB2805
    @JimB2805 11 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If only people would concentrate on Wagner's music, instead of his politics and what came after.

  • @RodsAndAxes
    @RodsAndAxes 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why was this cut from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs?

  • @Y.Moroboshi
    @Y.Moroboshi 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have to admit, someone out there can probably make a collage of footage from Skyrim and put it to this piece and it would somehow fit together perfectly.

  • @Axgoodofdunemaul
    @Axgoodofdunemaul 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Many famous musicians are screwy, even today. Doesn't make their music bad or irrelevent.

  • @karoloandria
    @karoloandria 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @VaultTex
    xenophobic get out, this is music for all the humanity

  • @MegaDocalex
    @MegaDocalex 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Violennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnt woooooooooooooooooooooow fiouf AMAZING!!

  • @Aubury
    @Aubury 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really need to get to grips with The Ring Cycle, but what recording, Help ..

  • @sebastianrc
    @sebastianrc 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone claimed copyright for my own videos playing in my own piano a Chopin Nocturne written in 1830, I claimed to them all of this but apparently Chopin wanted them to keep the winnings and I still have to copyright issue.

  • @Paolo8772
    @Paolo8772 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wouldn't say that, it's just Wagner did so well with Leitmotivs that the were finally given a name. Leitmotives already existed. The Tristan chord can be found as a 7 chord starting with the 7th note of the scale: half diminished. He's just use it in different contexts: No particular context at the beginning, A flat major at the beginning of Leibesnacht and B major at the end of the opera. If it was played in F sharp major it would be a diatonic VII half diminished 7 chord. Wagner tubas: yes.

  • @HimmelsscheibeNebra
    @HimmelsscheibeNebra 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Eicheulme
    Read the Nibelungenlied! Hagen was and is one of the darkest heros in German literature.

  • @gluetubeserver
    @gluetubeserver 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    hey-oooo when i see a pretty girl

  • @astarte2405
    @astarte2405 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    majestuoso

  • @decast42
    @decast42 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a singer! What a choir!! Listen with headphones, it's just like being at Bayreuth - if you ever have the good fortune. As far as the old problem of Wagner's attitude to the Jews is concerned, I trust D. Barenboim's judgement (music is just that, music. We should be able to separate it from its composer's personal views). I agree with the comment about 'hysterical' Jews, but we shouldn't generalise. There are thousands of Wagner-loving Jews in the world who wouldn't associate with Tel Aviv.

  • @MarkyMarc78
    @MarkyMarc78 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Knappertsbusch the Great! Is this 1956 or 1958?

  • @siegfriedfurtwanglerknappe6188
    @siegfriedfurtwanglerknappe6188 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You don't understand. Wagner should of course never be "banished" since he is the greatest composer of all time. However, it's not because Hitler liked it. It's because of the things Wagner wrote about jews and music. Wagner is nowhere near as extreme as Hitler either, I think Hermann Levi would be substantial proof.

  • @SimpleKillTheBatman
    @SimpleKillTheBatman 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing

  • @Corinnasmusic
    @Corinnasmusic 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OMG that is such a hilarious answer...had me laughing for a long, long time :)

  • @RheingoldxxL
    @RheingoldxxL 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grandios ...

  • @ergangui
    @ergangui 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome!!!!!

  • @Gargantupimp
    @Gargantupimp 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its off to work we gooo

  • @jac6156
    @jac6156 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gostaria de saber a tradução dessa musica .

  • @nadielo1
    @nadielo1 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    POWERFULL. EXULTANTE.

  • @Blurry__Bunny
    @Blurry__Bunny 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome *-* but at 4:32. they say lastwagen? XD

  • @28CarsLater
    @28CarsLater 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @bigjohn756 Chuck Norris hears this every time he showers.

  • @pietrovaldes
    @pietrovaldes 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who is conducting this opera Thank you great music

  • @srothbardt
    @srothbardt 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ShermanM36 Was he a choral conductor?

  • @raulcortegajr
    @raulcortegajr 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    word!!!!

  • @Batgerel213
    @Batgerel213 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great

  • @evanquads
    @evanquads 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    certainly different to the Disney version

  • @KenKen3593
    @KenKen3593 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the dragon was killed in the previous opera. You're a bit late.

  • @kalyxen
    @kalyxen 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you also believe that Denmark won WW2?

  • @WagneroperaNET
    @WagneroperaNET 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:26-1:35

  • @WillowPt
    @WillowPt 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not one to frown on Klingon opera jokes, but no it doesn't.

  • @buzzard73gmail
    @buzzard73gmail 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @hiljab I'm not Jewish, but put yourself in their shoes!!! What do you mean by "hysterical?" Duuuuuuuhhhhhh!!!!

  • @Metalfreak4231
    @Metalfreak4231 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    yeah but this one is definitly not from wagner, its from someone else that interpret (cover) it and that guy has the copyright only of THAT ONE interpretation not of the whole thing its a weird thing but its true

  • @DrHokeyPokey
    @DrHokeyPokey 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @violinthief sounds like the system is actually working, which worries me a lot more.

  • @MsOal
    @MsOal 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who is the orchestra director

  • @DaBozz
    @DaBozz 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ElvMorgan Stimmt, echt witzig.^^

  • @elainebmack
    @elainebmack 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @RodsAndAxes HA!!!! Very funny!!!!

  • @Normalverteiler
    @Normalverteiler 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are there videos available of these old productions?

  • @999parzival
    @999parzival 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Il y a tout un contexte "derrière" cette interpretation. Böhm tire ce choeur hors des brumes germaniques dans lesquelles il baignait pour l'amener vers quelque chose d' épique mais de très diffrent...et prend un tempo tout à fait inhabituel à Bayreuth ce qui fit hurler Wilhelm Pitz ( chef de choeur) et les traditionalistes. Aujourd'hui certains reprochent à Bohm de soit disant sympathies pro nazies en oublaint qu'au niveau musical il a agi souvent en maitre de la denazification...

  • @carmelo5620
    @carmelo5620 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you yew??

  • @guzy1971
    @guzy1971 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    who is the interpret ?

  • @ZachVMNTX1
    @ZachVMNTX1 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @buzzard73gmail You didn't even put forth an arguement with that comment, you just said put yourself in their shoes, indicated that you don't know what hte word hysterical means... and then you said duh, which is kind of ironic.

  • @djm51x
    @djm51x 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    sweet

  • @smartcooky99
    @smartcooky99 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like Worf reciting Klingon Opera

  • @Maestoso28
    @Maestoso28 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @witness124 In War one has to destroy one's enemy.

  • @broxxx1138
    @broxxx1138 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unless your studied in the occult, please don't make statements concerning hitler; on Wagner ....its extremely offensive and ignorant

  • @TheBeatifulman
    @TheBeatifulman 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    got here from empire march lol

  • @carmelo5620
    @carmelo5620 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wagner i the most balls compoer you'll see

  • @vhsihsphs
    @vhsihsphs 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for this wonderful clip. And not that it's relevant, but long live capitalism!