What even is value for money?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2024

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  • @davidak3606
    @davidak3606 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    pro tip you can just buy tamiya extra thin cement and drink that no need for anything else

    • @n00bfest32
      @n00bfest32 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what about milliput? you on a diet or something?

    • @woodydrum
      @woodydrum 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah my current diet consists of Tamiya Extra Thin Cement, Airfix Sprues and occasionally paint fumes.
      10/10 would eat, drink and inhale again. :)

    • @MTAviation123
      @MTAviation123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also if you wear a diper and never sleep, you never need to leave the bench, so therefore you live there!

  • @Bob-b7x6v
    @Bob-b7x6v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    My Shelves of Shame are full, my tools and paints are stacked, yet I have no free time.
    Henry Biemis: It's not fair, there was time...

  • @ericbeaton7211
    @ericbeaton7211 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I am 72 year old. When I first built kits when I was a kid I had about a dozen cans of Humbrol ,a couple of brushes, a tube of glue and a Stanley knife. About six years ago I decided to get back into modelling. I currently have a stash of between fifty and sixty kits waiting to be built and four tool boxes full of paint and all the other gear I am supposed to need to build a kit. At the same time I have lost count of the number of kits I have bought and then eventually resold on eBay in the last six years when I realised I would probably never get round to building them or something “Better” came along.

    • @potrzebieneuman4702
      @potrzebieneuman4702 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm nearly 70 myself and like you built kits from childhood. Also like you I had a half dozen paints from Humbrol and a couple of brushes and an exacto type knife. My collection of paint is now much larger but I still enjoy the build as much as having the completed model, I only buy kits that I want to add to my collection. At the moment I have a 3d printer and I'm printing the biggest kit I've ever assembled, a full size Robby the robot from the movie Forbidden Planet. People look at me like I have 2 heads but I ignore them, I simply love model kits.

  • @davidorr6627
    @davidorr6627 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Using rattle cans to paint anything is a sure fire way to tip all your money down the drain. Although an airbrush and compressor may cost you some decent cash, in the long run it will save you a lot of money. I use my workshop compressor, which cost a hell of a lot less than a small modelling compressor, and it works perfectly. All I needed was a 1/4" to 1/8" adapter for the airbrush hose, and I added a water trap. Rattle cans just spray vast quantities of paint all over the place, whereas with an airbrush you can paint tiny parts easily using minimal amounts of paint. Obviously if you'e just starting out it may be too expensive to buy a compressor and airbrush (although there are plenty of budget airbrushes around, not all of the best quality), especially if you're not sure if you want to keep modelling. But after 1 or 2 kits I'm sure most people would know whether they want to do it or not, so it makes sense to invest in a decent setup.

    • @potrzebieneuman4702
      @potrzebieneuman4702 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep, I have one and in my lifetime of building kits it's one of the best things I ever bought.

  • @scalestuff1066
    @scalestuff1066 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fair play mate, you bring up some good points, on the subject of tools, my side cutters ive just replaced after 25 years, the hobby I find awesome, Build a kit a week or so met some really nice people. Price is an issue for me, but I get loads of second hand kits from other peoples stashes of shame, build them up, and then slowly wait for the loft beams to collapse and crush me in my sleep....

  • @stuff31
    @stuff31 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You mentioning that toothpick and toenails thing made me imagine it in my head and gave me a horrifying amount of nightmare fuel, fucking cried out in agony at the thought of it

  • @MillwalltheCat
    @MillwalltheCat หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As brush painting goes, your skills are boss.
    Nice work.

  • @tankwright5489
    @tankwright5489 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro absolutely hysterical and spot on! Please do more like this, you are a natural comedian.

  • @davidorr6627
    @davidorr6627 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Some consumables can last an extraordinary length of time. I started building models again last year after a 20+ year break. Most of the paints I was using then are still usable now. I also have a heap of Humbrol paints that my brother and I bought when we were at school. I finished school in 1984 and only built a couple of small models between then and 2000. Some of the paints have completely dried up (mainly because my son used them and didn't clean the lids before putting them back on). However, quite a few of them are perfectly usable, and one that I opened a couple of weeks ago was like a brand new tin that had never been used.

  • @JimmyJohnson-fv3mq
    @JimmyJohnson-fv3mq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’m guzzling to this video

  • @choccymilklord59
    @choccymilklord59 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    GGMS MENTIONED ‼️‼️‼️

  • @guzzler308
    @guzzler308 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    we here at groove HQ approve this message

  • @edbe7385
    @edbe7385 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You could get a Gundam kit and some nippers / side cutters and thats all you would need. HG Gundam kits are snap fit, molded in color, and are in price range of US $12 - $30 typical kits are around $20, which is not bad. If you dont like giant robots with huge guns and swords bandai also does Star Wars kits that are also molded in color and but they're usually a bit more expensive. Its not uncommon to see somone take a bare gundam kit and top it with a clear coat and weather it and get fantastic results that look like the kit was painted.

    • @HellfireModels
      @HellfireModels  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@edbe7385 yeah have noticed gunpla is definitely getting a lot more into the mainstream nowadays. You can get the more basic entry grade kits at some of the department stores here and there are a lot more smaller places that have that sorta stuff compared to the 2 maybe 3 stores dedicated to the more "traditional" subjects

    • @Damien-u2x
      @Damien-u2x หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ever heard of Steve Sansweet?.......he owns the largest collection of privatly owned star wars memorabilia and is well know in the star wars collecting community.........i remember him telling a story when he recounted he was asked by a fan how much a certain sw item was worth andvhe replied.............."it's worth what you paid for it".​@HellfireModels

  • @davidhunt1947
    @davidhunt1947 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Liking the humor and agreeing that the hobby actually is a good value for the money. If I spend up to 100 USD on a model kit that takes me two to three months (sometimes more if it is a ship) to make, my money has been well spent.

  • @DropdudeJohn
    @DropdudeJohn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Value for money is the enjoyment or learning experience you get from anything and only the individual will know its value to them.

  • @Bob-b7x6v
    @Bob-b7x6v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Groan, I have 7 kits on my bench that need finishing; 2 AT-RTs, one life-size Dogomorph Burster, Pyramid Head, a Spice Harvester, a Harkonnen Ornithopter, and an Atreides Ornithopter...

  • @cellardwellerproductions5125
    @cellardwellerproductions5125 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a way to launch a subscription.
    Absolutely hilarious.
    But, you can’t break this argument.
    You are correct.
    There are worse things to be dumping cold hard into.
    Best of luck with the channel.
    Welcome to the community.
    Why, the algorithm is just putting you into my feed is beyond me, but keep fighting the man.

  • @Lt.Gruber
    @Lt.Gruber 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hobby boss, mini hobby, trumpeter and I❤kit are all the same company. Great value for money but accuracy and some detail takes a hit

    • @Tanubtanu
      @Tanubtanu หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mini hobby been once my favorite, I can't believe you could get 1:350 ship for 20 buck or 1:48 Hind for 10 bucks. Those has questionable fitting but the price is pretty ridiculous (I got them from China trip a decade + years ago). I didn't pay for the First world tax.

  • @bigsteve6200
    @bigsteve6200 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I say. If your just starting out. Stay to the cheepper models. Learn then grow. Going from Stonehenge to Apollo overnight. Usually tends not to work out well.

  • @Tweetsix
    @Tweetsix 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    oh my god groovy model server mentioned????

  • @JerryTheTankYank1776
    @JerryTheTankYank1776 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Getting high on Tamiya modeling cement justifies financial bankruptcy.
    That’s how I manage to fit in ggms

    • @cdpgbc-mw2kz
      @cdpgbc-mw2kz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gen. X here: Testors red tube glue and Contact Cement when I was kid. No helicopter parents back then. My dad gave my brother and I the contact cement to use, and then eventually Testors glue, which I thought was like a miracle glue!!

  • @zulerodoeht329
    @zulerodoeht329 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chapter 2 Consumables / knife ( X-acto / Excel ) blades. At most hobby stores and art supply stores #11s can be around a buck each, if not more. However if you are serious and plan on the long game, these brands can be purchased in bulk online, sometimes with free shipping. 100 blades cost me around $15 - 20 bucks, for several years worth of blades. A new blade or 2 for a new kit.

  • @Bob-b7x6v
    @Bob-b7x6v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bandai fulfilled my Star Wars childhood dreams. 😶‍🌫️🤯

  • @efiys
    @efiys 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This popped up on my recommended haha, and this is recent but have you built that Tamiya F-16 1/72 kit yet? I am really looking into snagging one for myself. Also is it the full loadout version form what I saw?

  • @Lt.Gruber
    @Lt.Gruber 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Methylated spirits works great as Tamiya paint thinner for airbrushing. Stuff buying that expensive Tamiya branded thinner! Supplemental purchasing at Bunnings saves money on “Brand Name” model products

  • @hopik512
    @hopik512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    best financial decision was dumping 3 paychecks worth of money into my model pile. Some of them are even Wingnut Wings kits so they gonna age like a fine wine.

    • @davidorr6627
      @davidorr6627 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't hoard models. Just build them. That's what they are for. Over the last 18 months I have been building my father's stash that he bought in the mid 1970's. A few of them are worth quite a lot of money, but they are still onlyworth about as much as the re-released versions of the same kits (e.g. Airfix 1/12th scale Bentley). I have built the Bentley, but unfortunately the tyres had been in contact with some of the plastic and melted it, which required a lot of repairs. Also the decals were yellowed and quite fragile, and Airfix refused to send me some new ones, even though they still make them and I offered to pay for them. It took weeks of exposure to sunlight to reduce the yellowing, and they were tricky to put on, but they worked in the end. Model kits don't age like fine wine. They age like beer.

    • @Tanubtanu
      @Tanubtanu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@davidorr6627 It's wingnut wings, I really doubt any company would released the same quality + they went bankrupt during Covid. Zoukei mura still produce their kit in smaller scale + demand are low. I do agree model it isn't an Investment but Wingnut wings in an exception, not even 3D/Resin print could replica the mold.

  • @JoelDeeCee
    @JoelDeeCee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah I generally agree, especially in regards to airfix. They're taking the piss with the pricing for their some kits. £21 for their harriers that go together worse than the older hasegawa kits while costing almost double is just flat out silly, not to mention theres better kits with more plastic+detail+fit (like tamiyas f-16) thats costs around the same or less.
    I will disagree on the use of rattle cans though, terrible value for money in the long term compared to an airbrush set or going pure handbrush only.

    • @HellfireModels
      @HellfireModels  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hence why I only mentioned spray primer lol. Cars and primer are pretty much the only reason you'd wanna use rattle cans if you don't have an airbrush, people who do entire planes and Camo schemes with them scare me

  • @Tanubtanu
    @Tanubtanu หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah the swap meet/selling stash part is true, I got Bandai Falcon (1/144), Poe X wing (1/72), and Y-Wing (1/72) for 100 AUD (It would cost around 200 on RRP now days). However there is also delusional people selling overpriced old kit as Vintage, it's a model kit not fucking Lego, it does not rise but depreciation (Unless MPC Star wars/Movie related). Not to mention fitting issue and questionable engineering.

  • @Bob-b7x6v
    @Bob-b7x6v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I quit going to model shows bc of arsehole rivet counters.
    "Fokker the Rivet-Counters"
    -Harry Houdini Models

  • @Vol_ante
    @Vol_ante 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see you have the Trumpeter JF-17, is it good?

    • @HellfireModels
      @HellfireModels  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still need to get around to building it (and i've got a bit of a backlog so god knows when i'll get to it) but at least from the sprues it looks pretty good and I haven't heard about any major issues in terms of fit. Either way it's literally the only jf-17 in 1/72 scale and its dirt cheap lmao

  • @ruskiwaffle1991
    @ruskiwaffle1991 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I looked into scale modeling a few years ago, them I realized I'm too poor to even begin with. I dumped approximately 66 USD on the most ASS Revell kits and now I can't buy a model anymore. Not to mention, hobby stores are going extinct and browsing online doesn't hit the same.

  • @Bob-b7x6v
    @Bob-b7x6v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trumpeter gave me every Cold War MiG and Suhkoi interceptor and striker I could ever want... 😵‍💫

    • @52down
      @52down 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Su-7?

    • @Bob-b7x6v
      @Bob-b7x6v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@52down Except that Fishpot. My kit was an OEZ/Kopro.

    • @52down
      @52down 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bob-b7x6v Modelsvit has decent kit, all Su-7 variants

  • @daspanzer135
    @daspanzer135 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ggms on top fr

  • @renown16
    @renown16 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    don't get me started on model railways.

  • @BrianSanders-tn7pi
    @BrianSanders-tn7pi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi. Your unlucky in that nowadays no hobby is cheap. I have been making models for at least 45 years so I have built some real turkeys in my time , but you get out what you put in. I now build mainly small scale military vehicles ( 1/72 1/76) but I super detail them. So an old Airfix Matador and 5.5 inch gun tok me well over a month to complete. But it is at competition level. You have done the right thing though by joining a club. Go to the shows and you will soon be known by the traders who will do you a good deal , remember they don't want to take their stock back home. So yes some old kits are dogs but choose the one's that you know have good pedigree , Fujimi, hasegawa and Tamiya for example. But if you don't mind some extra work and you want to flex your modelling muscle's so to speak then buy something that you know will present a challenge. They are normally cheaper too. As for the ancillaries well they are part and parcel I,m afraid. But over time you will build up more tools that you know what to do with and enough paint to cover a battleship. So sticknat it my friend and just enjoy the hobby for what it is. Fun. Regards.

  • @Burninhellscrootoob
    @Burninhellscrootoob หลายเดือนก่อน

    I miss the old monogram kits, they were perfect. All fit well,good detail, and not too many parts. Revell always sucked,warped, nothing fit,lousy detail. The Japanese kits have waay too much.....if you want a fine museum piece, thats ok, but i personally dont....i gave up on my hobbycraft kits a deceased neighbor left me, too many pieces.....i mean,every single shell inside a grant or priest tank? No, no thanks...at least give me the option of molding them into one piece if i choose instead of all those tiny individual shells....

  • @schecterman5466
    @schecterman5466 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glooooooe

  • @ianbutler8776
    @ianbutler8776 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your snarky comments have really put me off

  • @Mike-mm4mx
    @Mike-mm4mx หลายเดือนก่อน

    The hobby is very expensive with kits and accessories but still a lot cheaper than drugs or women