My fridge stopped working a few days ago. The fan was going, but the compressor did not kick in. I pulled out the start relay and it looked burnt out. I picked up this part at my local Grainger store for about $14. It took me just a few minutes to install, now we're chillin'.
I had quite an experience when our refrigerator quit a month after the warranty was up. Called a repairman and he came and replaced a board in the fridge. That was $300. Worked for a few days and quit again. He came again and told us the compressor was bad, offered to take it away for us and sell us a new fridge or pay $800 to have the compressor fixed. Told him...NO, and put it on the deck. Did some reading. It was recommended I let the compressor cool down and then plug it in, if it started up it is the capacitor. I found a hard start kit and put it on and it has been running ever since (Over 6 years now). This repair scam man was just trying to steal our property so he could do the quick repair and resell it in his shop. We only paid $800 for it to begin with as it was a scratch and dent model. So the short of it is this, the original capacitors are just big enough to start a new compressor, when it get a bit harder to start, they aren't big enough anymore and you need a bigger one. Everything we buy is designed to fail after a certain amount of time. Glad these hard start kits are available.
the start capacitor is matched to the start winding specs.... bigger is NOT better ! You dont want to cook the winding insulation until it shorts out. What does fail in fridges is the cheap PTC STARTER (rarely the cap itself). The best long term way to start any electric motor is with a "soft-starter" not a "hard-starter" that's used when a tired old compressor is nearly ceased and can hardly start. It should just help save all the food before replacement. "hard-starters" should not be used on a 4 year fridge with a dead PTC: buy matched oem part then! The many types of starters: Current relay: good Voltage relay: better PTC heated resistor: cheapest Electronic voltage controlled: best
Great Video. I have a whirlpool ED5VHEXVB01 fridge that I replaced the start relay on 3 times already. The first one was replaced back in Nov 2022 and was melted at the top of the start relay, so I replaced it again and it only lasted 2 days then failed again, that was the aftermarket one it is now July 2023. So I decided to go with the genuine oem whirlpool part and it lasted 2.5 days. So today I purchased a new fridge. I would like to keep this fridge as a back up if i can but it is killing the start relay. The capacitor tested good on my fluke 12uF. Any ideas.
I have been using this since I made this video.(3 or 4 years now?) it has been working perfectly.. I am sorry you had such issues with yours, Brian.. did you try one of these?
@@ETPCYT Funny I found out the problem was the thermostat. I tap on it and it works. I have the part to install just haven't had the chance to do it yet. The first start relay was bad after 2 days smelled burned bought an oem one and thought it was dead but did more research and tested it with my meter and it tested good. Thanks for your help.
Apparently the 3 pins in a triangle coming out of the compressor case is fairly standard, though the pattern may vary with 2 pins on the bottom, 1 on top, OR 2 pins on top, 1 on the bottom (like the one in the video). The single pin is the common (the black wire of the 3n1), the white wire goes on the right hand pin if the pattern is like the video (picture a DOWN arrow head), the red on the left pin. That reverses if the triangle is upside down (picture an UP arrow head).....black on top, white on the left bottom pin, red on the right bottom pin.
Thank YOU ED! This was rather confusing to me too.. as the diagram on the item and the refrigerator were not the same . I was pretty much playing this by ear lol.. turns out it is still working great :) Take care my FRIEND and I appreciate YOU taking time to help clarify this :)
He hooked it up exactly the opposite of what you stated , and it worked --- and his 3n1 was made inconsistent with the manufacturer's referencing grid --- lol I'm just gonna get a frickin multimeter and test out the ohms ... then fill my fridge shelf to shelf with Lagunitas
Draw an equlaterial triangle, from left name A,B and C. Between each points put a coil symbol to represent windings. Now, set ur multimeter to ohms. Check value from A to C. Write down C equal?. Then from A to B and B to C. The highest reading is ur run . The lowest is ur common. Ur start is obvious. The two lower values should total to the highest.ususlly A start,B common and C run. A+b=C.
Hi again, I talked to Supco and was told that connecting properly is vital. 10ohms between start and run, 6 ohms between common and start and 4 ohms between common and run. The repair tech installed a RCO810 rated up to 1/5hp but should have installed the RCO410. Which 3N1 did you use? HOPING that the correct part will fix it and that the compressor isn't toast 🤞
this cheap "hard-starter" is a standard bush fix. The best part match is the one listed by the fridge OEM or Embraco. Why? ... because its got better coil/capacitor match and over current protection. Newer replacement parts use a smart PTC based on a power triac to 100% disconnect the Start winding unlike legacy PTC that kept heating the PTC Non-stop.
These kits should be chosen per the compressor power rating. In your case the compressor is 187W which is 1/4W and RC0410 is the right one to use. But it will not always be the case as many smaller fridges will be below that rating and RC0810 will be the correct one to use in those cases.
One other comment. There are several postings that say take out the old relay and shake it; if it rattles the relay is bad. If it does not rattle the compressor is bad. That is not always true, at least it was not in my case. I took out the old relay and shook and i did not hear a thing so I assumed my compressor had gone bad. I then went to Lowes and almost bought a new refrigerator but could not get a fast date of delivery. I then came back and said what do I have to loose so I gave it shot by reversing the red and white wires, saved me two thousand dollars for a new fridge I did not need, at least not yet. Not a bad deal for fifteen dollars I had to spend on the 3 in 1 relay
lol I did the same thing, it was the weekend and we were heading out of town.. and .. a warm fridge.. I was going to just buy a new one like you.. then I saw this and so far problem solved.. Thank again for taking time to comment :)
ETPC EPIC TIME PASS CHANNEL Hi, does this 3 in 1 work on all fridge models or do I have to buy a specific one for my Amana fridge. One other thing. I replaced the old capacitor and start relay which by the way didn't make a rattling noise. The weird thing is, the new part does rattle :/ After watching a lot of videos on possible troubleshootings, I determined that there's nothing wrong with any part (compressor, capacitor and relay, thermostat, cleaning the coils, etc). I'm learning so I don't know if I'm testing for troubleshooting correctly :/ Any suggestions? Thanks :)
A note on the three prongs. The black goes in the middle, that is simple. The other two 'start' and 'run' can be confusing. My first attempt did not work and the compressor got burning hot, so i unplugged the fridge and let the compressor cool down. After it had cooled down I took the red and white wire prongs off and reversed them (put white where it was red before and vice versa) and it worked for me. The compressor kicked in. So it is a matter of page orientation when you read the diagram.
Great tip, my friend. Thank you for taking time to lend your advice. This seems to be a fairly common issue with relays not working. Mine is still going strong! Have a great day!
Hey how is your 3 in one still going i heard temp fix but seen your comments say it was still going. Good for you. i just bought one waiting for.it come in but want see how long it lasting u
Hey BRO, sorry for the late reply. Still running great. After the initial hook up it hasn't had a single problem. :) I am VERY pleased with it as I was about to buy a new fridge . I think YOU will be happy with it..
So just checking again. If the pins are an upside down triangle.... what wire goes were! I saw in the comments that someone said you had it wrong in your video... but it seemed to start!??
Hey my friend.. this was a bit complicated as the instructions didn't really help at all.. yeah they way I hooked it up in the video its still like that and running great..
Hey AWESOME video and thanks for taking the time to do it. It's really helpful and ignore those negative comments. That just shows you how cruel people are in this world. Thanks again and God bless
Received a reply from Supco: I wrote something like this: "I purchased the part yesterday and in the diagram on the package the black wire which is actually at the device's edge, ie it is the outer wire, is mistakenly shown to be the middle of the three wires, and I am not sure whether to trust the location of the black wire (which according to the diagram would make it NOT the ground) or its color (which would signify it as being the ground). Mike from Supco wrote back: "The wire color should match the terminals for common, start, and run, not the location." I hope this helps some people feel more confident in their choice of which wire to connect where. BTW, I looked at some other videos and I could see that one has a Supco device with the CORRECT order of the wiring...so you may be lucky...
Fantastic video, ignore all those nasty comments. I'm a total novice, so it is very useful to see what was difficult for you, it is easier to learn from that than from a video by an expert who does everything quickly, skipping steps, and who has no idea what will be difficult or confusing to me. Also, I just bought the same part from Supco yesterday and started searching for install videos which is why I found yours. Indeed as you pointed out the diagram on the package has the colors wrong compared to the actual part in the package, so it is not at all clear which wire goes where, ie whether to trust the placement of the three wires relative to each other or to trust their colors on the diagram, as indeed you explain twice in the video, and as can be seen from the colors of the wires on the part at the beginning of the video. It was very reassuring to know that you had the same issue and overcame it. Ignore people who comment negatively without knowing what you encountered. But you are so kind and self-effacing in your responses, that is quite wonderful! Kudos!!! One thing I can perhaps contribute regarding the issue of correctly identifying which is the ground prong as opposed to the other two prongs. Since the configurtion can be upside down it might be confusing, but there are two prongs are on the same level whether the two are on top or on bottom, so instead of looking for top or bottom, look for the two prongs on the same level, and the other one (not on the same level as them) is the ground. Thanks again! If you make more videos, make sure to do it as you did this one - include the mistakes and explain what you learned, so we can also learn from your mistakes - no "perfect videos" please!
Thanks a lot, I appreciate that. VERY much.. I do tend to make unedited videos for the very reason YOU have stated.. and I have had multiple people say they appreciate it because of the reasons YOU mentioned :) YOUR comment is very encouraging and it means a lot that YOU have taken the time to let me know. Also, YOUR tip on the level of the prongs is very helpful. Have a blessed day my FRIEND :)
Hey I was just wondering how do you know if there is a run capacitor or just a start capacitor I have no idea if my refrigerator had a run capacitor I put a three in one on about a year ago and it is still running fine but what do you think
@@ETPCYT okay thanks man I was just wondering it's been going good for a while so I'm just going to leave it alone all right you have a good one brother
It is a kind of a boost for the relay to get the compressor working, it replaces the relay switch if I remember correctly. I think this was about 20$ or so
Question. So u hook up ur supco 3 n1. Compressor runs .ok. what about the other wires.? Like to the thermostat. See 2 wires b and w to power, r w &b to comp. There are other wires. Where do I connect them to? The compressor will run continuously.
I am not too sure about the others.. the way I hooked it up in the video is how I did it.. it is still running good and the thermostat and everything is okay..
@@ETPCYT I hook up two. Both running. Now these are refrigerators that was removed from service and put away for sometime. Persons worked on them before and cutout some wires. I'm gonna tie in a cold control,as an option. I still have the original wiring diagram.Thanks for your response. I'm enjoying these videos and.tks sir.
It sounds like YOU know what YOU are doing.. I am not an expert at all.. I thank YOU for watching and I hope it works well for you .. Take care my FRIEND :)
You are welcome.. a word of caution, it was brought to my attention in the comments previously that I had the run and start switched. My refrigerator has been working fine ever since with no issues.. However, I still need to get an ohm tester to see which is which for sure.
Awesome! I am really glad to hear it. I do apologize for my poor video quality. I realize it wasn't the best lol .. I appreciate you letting me know it helped :) Take care my friend ;)
Hi, my overload has 3 wires running to it and also the black wire that runs to the starter relay. (total, 4 wires) It has 2 red wires tied together and a black wire, fan wire, running to 1 connector. Like I said, the other black wire that runs to the starting relay top (middle)....So, that leaves me with 3 wires to hook to just the 2 black wires of the 3 in 1 .Am I suppose to uses the 2 red wires and hook them both to 1 of the Black wires of the 3 in 1 and then hook the fan wire to the last black wire of the 3 in 1? I haven't seen a video as of yet where there are 2 red wires and a black wire that are being hooked to the 3 in 1. Do you have an idea as what I should do? Tie both reds to 1 wire of the 3 in 1 and the other black to the 3 in 1 ? Seems since these 3 wires on the over load are hooked together they should stay hooked together but that leaves me a problem of no other wire is left to hook to the last 3 in 1 black wire.Thanks for anyone's help...
Wow yours seems a little more complicated than mine. I don't think mine had any wiring that messed with the fan. I wish I could help more but I am not a pro.. Hopefully someone else can have the answer.
My compressor also has three prongs one run one start one neutral... You don't use the over load.. just connect the three wires left to the three prongs on the compressor. You should have two black and one red and then the three copper prongs sticking out of the compressor.
I need to see how everything is wired inside the 3n1 cap cover. The person who started this project unplugged everything from the 3n1 and I don't have a clue how it came wired as shipped.
Thanks for your great video! The repair tech, for a charge of $180, connected the red run wire to start, the white start wire to common and the black common wire to run. It didn't work till, the next morning, I changed them to follow the wiring diagram. Then the compressor came on quietly and became warm, the copper tubing became cool but 12 hours later, the fridge is still not cool let alone cold 😒 The tech said he puts them in any configuration, that it doesn't matter. Is that possible??
hrmm... Like I said, Trish, I am not an electrician but ANY configuration does not sound right to me. if your compressor did start running that is good but I am not sure why your fridge is not cooling.. maybe check your fan to see if it is coming on.. best of luck my friend :)
Hey all, for those who are trying to figure out where to plug the white, red and black wires from the supco to the compressor: 1) watch this video: th-cam.com/video/o3f04wHgpb8/w-d-xo.html 2) get a multimeter or ohm meter, watch youtube video on how to use one to check for resistance accross two pins. th-cam.com/video/lo8MWr3NuuM/w-d-xo.html 3) match the pins with the wires as they are labeled on the supco package, ignore the positions of the labels and only use the pin labels and wire color labels. I have a EGX 70HLC compressor, used the supco RC0410 because the horesepower is 1/4 hp.
After installing the 3 in 1 start relay, how long before the compressor kicks on? I installed the supco 3 in 1 RCO410 and all that happened after installing it was the fan came on and that's all. The compressor got super hot! So hot you couldn't touch it longer than 1 second. Is that normal? Or is that the giveaway that the compressor is shot?
Had to unplug it, you know the sound a pot filled with water makes when the lid is on and the water is boiling? Yes, it started to sound like that! I wasn't sure if it was going to blow lol so I unplugged it, and there was a smell too not sure how to explain it, definitely a chemical smell.
Okay... it sounds like the same thing mine was doing.... did you remove the previous relay.. Mine was SUPER HOT too.. arrr gotta go to work I will have to finish this response later.. I 'll be back
Yes, the original relay was off, I followed the instructions down to the t when I installed the 3 in 1. Well 24hrs later and the compressor was slightly warm to the touch, everything was work except the compressor. I think it's time to go shopping for a new one. Sad, very nice full size stainless steel fridge going to the curb come Sunday night.
All right, With mine, it was doing the exact same thing. It was trying to start then it cannot so the original relay on there clicks it off. My compressor was super hot as well. I unplugged it for a bit while I was installing the 3n1. Mine kicked in right after I installed it. Yours is doing what mine was before I removed the the old relay and put this one on. If it is TOO hot and smelling, not a good sign I would think. ( I am not a professional) I would let it cool down, recheck to make sure everything is hooded up correctly then plug it back in.. if that doesn't do it, yeah your compressor is probably shot... I hope this help, my friend.
I was told that the 3 in 1 should be used as a temporary fix not permanent. If this is true then how does someone reverse the 3 in 1 to replace the wire stripping and such?
I put mine in in 2017.. it is still working great.. with zero issues... I wouldn't know what you could do.. if I put the original part in mine, it didn't have the power to start the compressor... You can do what you want but I am going to leave mine in permanently .. take care my Friend :)
The reason the compressor was hot was because the starting capacitor was bad so the start winding could not develope the phase shift needed to spin the motor in the right direction. The rotor just sits there and vibrates while the run coil overheats.
I just saw this video. I am currently doing some testing with my small chest freezer. Do you think this device would work for small chest freezers? (IDYLIS Model # IF50CM23NW). Thank you.
It seems most freezers/refrigerators have very similar compressors. I know they have at least two different models of this 3n1 for different compressors. I am not a professional. I know this has work (and is still working) for me :) I looked that freezer up.. I could find everything BUT the compressor specs lol.. If yours is having similar symptoms as mine you might want to give it a shot. Best of luck my Friend :)
Hello, I scoured the internet to see what kind of compressor that freezer has.. I think the 810 should work for you .. I am not 100% sure I couldn't find what HP that compressor is.. I would try the 810 first.. Sorry I can not give you a definite answer :(
@@ETPCYT Hey hey!!! I did it! I actually did it last Sunday. I just had to go back to your channel and make sure I made this comment. At first, I saw a casing for the original relay system of the freezer. Then I was able to figure out how to get it. Then I just followed everything you said. Once the freezer turned on, I put the temp to 4 (middle) but the freezer was hot so I had to put it back to 1. Now, it is all good! Thank you very much! God bless you!
@@richiealvillagante1122 AWESOME!! I really appreciate you letting me know. I love helping people :) You literally just made my day, Richie :) May God bless you as well my FRIEND :) I know HE has blessed me beyond measure.
I have three wires one for the run, one for the start and one for the overload, how do I hook up the wires to the two black wires on the hard start if I have to install one?
Don't leave the 3-N-1 on the compressor if the refrigerator is equipped with a board. You can use the 3-N-1 temporarily but replace the original relay (you can use an aftermarket brand to save money) as soon as possible because it can possibly damage the board. 3-N-1 is only good for hard starting compressors where the original relay will not start the compressor. If a hard start is needed because the new relay fails to start the unit, then it indicates a compressor problem because it needs more current to start and the compressor will have a higher amperage draw when its running. A 3-N-1 is just putting a "Band-Aid" on the unit.
Hey Psycho, Thank you for the advice/ tip. I was unable to find any relay replacement for my refrigerator. My "Band-Aid" has been running my refrigerator just fine for the last 8 months. I figure when it dies I will have to get a new one.. but until it does, I will leave it on.
The embraco compressor uses a solid state relay. It has a built in overload and a plug-in capacitor. You can buy a replacement relay designed for your compressor from any appliance parts supply house (many sell to the general public) they can sell for $40-$55 if you buy OEM. An aftermarket is the same exact relay but much cheaper. When the hot air from the condenser at the back of the fridge restricts the hot air from the condenser fan, the compressor will develop high head pressure causing the compressor to work harder and draw more amperage and get very hot. The compressor should draw between 1.2 to 1.5 amps when working properly and the hot air can be drawn out. While you have the 3-N-1 on the compressor, take your Ammeter and clip it on the common wire and check the amperage. Bear in mind when using a 3-N-1 a compressor can last 5 seconds or 8 years. A 3-n-1 will not increase the efficiency of the compressor. I only use them temporarily until I can get the proper relay. Keep the refrigerator about 5-6 inches away from the wall. Tip: Keep your condenser clean.
hmm... I am not sure how I found this one.. they have different HP ratings for the compressors I think.. they only had a couple of these I think and this one fits the standard (I think 1/3 hp compressor) I am going off of memory here so kinda rusty
I am not sure. I tried everywhere I could in town to find the parts I needed. After a 3 hours of going to every place I could think of (naturally this happened on the weekend) I scoured the internet. I don't think I was able to locate the original parts so I vouched for this item. I am not sure if I would have ran into the same issue of the relay switch tripping again and again.
I would be sure that the ratings are the same between the new replacement, and the one that went bad. Rating of capacitor / and the relay relate to the HP of your compressor
if its your own fridge do not buy this style of magic kit... instead buy the OEM part matched to your compressor. It will make your compressor last as long as possible. Why: compressors mechanicals do not like to be jolted repeatedly.
I couldn't find the part for my compressor.. and I this 3N1 has been running like a charm since I installed it.. all I know was my refrigerator wasn't working and now it is :)
Why would you ever work on anything electrical without a meter. It will never tell you the windings on the compressor. You should make a video when you understand everything that you are doing. Other people are relying on your information. That is just irresponsible. Im glad you did it right by mistake at least.
That green wire that’s screwed to the body of the fridge where those it go,because mine was screwed to the body and the other end was screwed to the side of the relay..it’s confusing me
Green is your ground wire as you can see from my video my ground is coming off of the compressor.. I don't think Mine had a green wire from the relay and I am not sure exactly where it should go.. do you have the same setup as mine?
I see.. the supco doesn't have a wire for the ground.. you can see that I have other ground wires (the green ones) attached to the frame of my refrigerator... Maybe if you have ones like that you can run your green wire to those? I am not too sure.. I wish I could be more helpful..
..maybe try a reset button on the back of the fridge behind a panel that is screwed in... The 3N1 has nothing to do with the fan ( I don't think) I too out the old relay/breaker and installed this and it has been working flawlessly since
Thanks for reply. I called few places to get technician do it. First appointment was today, from Sears. I agreed to $125 diagnostic charge. He came and I wasn't home, my wife was. First 15 minutes he was trying to sell warranty. Another 15 min he was looking at his computer ( not connecting to refrigerator for check up?). Next, he took multimeter and router hed something twice. When done he said over $600 to replace top board. I called asking why and he said that board was $215 so I said rest $400 is for labor? No reply. I asked how much is hourly labor and said he doesn't know and the price is what computer is telling him. I asked for supervisor name and phone,he declined. I asked for anybody's contact and he declined. At the end I said I will pay for diagnosing, part and labor 1 hour since its plug and play. He declined my offer. I told him to leave since he can't provide honest service. No pay
Is your refrigerator a Samsung? Mine is a Kenmore.. Wow, sounds like he was trying to put one over on you.. $600??? that is crazy. Well done on getting rid of that individual. I hope you have better luck with Samsung. With a refrigerator, they kind of have us over a barrel because our food and everything can perish. You don't realize how much you depend on your refrigerator until it stops working.
Based on my experience and feedbacks this device is an almost guaranteed way to kill a refrigerator compressor in a year. Can anybody explain me why it is so harmful?
This kind of compressor needs run capacitor, this 3in1 Supco device has only start capacitor so the compressor will burn soon … this mike mouse expert doesn’t know what he is doing !…
hey ARMINDO, I probably don't know what I am doing but... my refrigerator has been running flawlessly since I put this in and that was when this video was made.. so far so good. :) Take care my FRIEND and be safe
i think d rc is relay capacitor and o is overload. epic. u r great. plus great comm skills on how u handled the commentnof s othwr guy. keep ot up. question is, did u remove d run capacitor? i think u have 12 uF run cap originally.
My fridge is samsung and it has 3 wires in the relay and overload. It's like 7:36 in th-cam.com/video/0crG4qREn0I/w-d-xo.html How would you connect the 2 black wire from the 3in1 to the 3 wires from the fridge?
Hey Kevin, I found this video : th-cam.com/video/SMeSWPWajCI/w-d-xo.html it has 3 wires like yours. It looks like if you have 3 wires and two are the same color you attach both of them together that are the same color and those would attach to one black wire then your remaining single wire would be attached to the other one. I am not an expert and I have no formal training as an electrician so take what I say with a grain of salt :).. I hope this helps you my friend. Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. Let me know how it works out, Kevin. Take care!
Hi, Thanks for helping me look into this. Mine has 3 wires, the overload is hot red, then the relay has two wires, which is pink and blue... I am guessing it's different... I probably can try attaching the pink and red with one of the black wires and see what happens :)
That would be my "guess" too. I tried looking up schematics for it with no success... I wish I could be more helpful.. Just be careful :) I hope it works out.
There is an instruction paper that always come with this device and it should not be this at all difficult to do and more so you are not really communicating,you are just murmuring and not communicating.The reason you are doing this video is to help other people understand how it is done but from the look of things you don't even understand how it is done so how will you be able to help others.
hey Gregg, I am sorry for the poor quality of this video I may do a new one that is better to show how it is hooked up now. This was a while ago and I have better equipment to make videos now ;)
@@ETPCYT You are the best Men,thanks for trying and I do appreciate the fact you understand what I am saying and most importantly for the fact that you want to make things right.I do wish you the very best of luck while you do your thing.
hi ETpc. u r a good man. with ur communication so positive. u handle people well. keep it up. thats d way to communicate. u r really setting a good example. greatly appreciate what u did and doing. bravo ;)
You are making a video to show the viewers how to fix a fridge. This is a terrible how-to video. You don't work on figuring it out on the video, you figure it out first then show the public how it's done. You made an 18 minute video that should have been 3 minutes.
My fridge stopped working a few days ago. The fan was going, but the compressor did not kick in. I pulled out the start relay and it looked burnt out. I picked up this part at my local Grainger store for about $14. It took me just a few minutes to install, now we're chillin'.
Glad to hear it, my FRIEND :)
@@ETPCYT I replaced my relay and tested the continuity of the compressor but it still won't start. What's the next thing to check? Anyond?
@@jyl11375 did u use the supco? my ref has same problem. im tryin to find this kit in d philippines. anyone knows where to get least price. thanks
I tried tjis kit and it damage my circuit board and stop work😢
I had quite an experience when our refrigerator quit a month after the warranty was up. Called a repairman and he came and replaced a board in the fridge. That was $300. Worked for a few days and quit again. He came again and told us the compressor was bad, offered to take it away for us and sell us a new fridge or pay $800 to have the compressor fixed. Told him...NO, and put it on the deck. Did some reading. It was recommended I let the compressor cool down and then plug it in, if it started up it is the capacitor. I found a hard start kit and put it on and it has been running ever since (Over 6 years now). This repair scam man was just trying to steal our property so he could do the quick repair and resell it in his shop. We only paid $800 for it to begin with as it was a scratch and dent model. So the short of it is this, the original capacitors are just big enough to start a new compressor, when it get a bit harder to start, they aren't big enough anymore and you need a bigger one. Everything we buy is designed to fail after a certain amount of time. Glad these hard start kits are available.
That sums up what happened to mine as well.. Thanks for the comment!
the start capacitor is matched to the start winding specs.... bigger is NOT better ! You dont want to cook the winding insulation until it shorts out.
What does fail in fridges is the cheap PTC STARTER (rarely the cap itself).
The best long term way to start any electric motor is with a "soft-starter" not a "hard-starter" that's used when a tired old compressor is nearly ceased and can hardly start. It should just help save all the food before replacement.
"hard-starters" should not be used on a 4 year fridge with a dead PTC: buy matched oem part then!
The many types of starters:
Current relay: good
Voltage relay: better
PTC heated resistor: cheapest
Electronic voltage controlled: best
Great Video. I have a whirlpool ED5VHEXVB01 fridge that I replaced the start relay on 3 times already. The first one was replaced back in Nov 2022 and was melted at the top of the start relay, so I replaced it again and it only lasted 2 days then failed again, that was the aftermarket one it is now July 2023. So I decided to go with the genuine oem whirlpool part and it lasted 2.5 days. So today I purchased a new fridge. I would like to keep this fridge as a back up if i can but it is killing the start relay. The capacitor tested good on my fluke 12uF. Any ideas.
I have been using this since I made this video.(3 or 4 years now?) it has been working perfectly.. I am sorry you had such issues with yours, Brian.. did you try one of these?
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Funny I found out the problem was the thermostat. I tap on it and it works. I have the part to install just haven't had the chance to do it yet. The first start relay was bad after 2 days smelled burned bought an oem one and thought it was dead but did more research and tested it with my meter and it tested good. Thanks for your help.
Thanks for the video. How did you go about selecting that particular relay. Did you take the LRA value of the compressor into account? Thanks
Hey ANDY, I went off the HP of the compressor
Apparently the 3 pins in a triangle coming out of the compressor case is fairly standard, though the pattern may vary with 2 pins on the bottom, 1 on top, OR 2 pins on top, 1 on the bottom (like the one in the video). The single pin is the common (the black wire of the 3n1), the white wire goes on the right hand pin if the pattern is like the video (picture a DOWN arrow head), the red on the left pin.
That reverses if the triangle is upside down (picture an UP arrow head).....black on top, white on the left bottom pin, red on the right bottom pin.
Thank YOU ED! This was rather confusing to me too.. as the diagram on the item and the refrigerator were not the same . I was pretty much playing this by ear lol.. turns out it is still working great :) Take care my FRIEND and I appreciate YOU taking time to help clarify this :)
Did you actually watched the video? He did it WRONG, exactly backwards (11:32)! I don't know why it worked.
He hooked it up exactly the opposite of what you stated , and it worked --- and his 3n1 was made inconsistent with the manufacturer's referencing grid --- lol I'm just gonna get a frickin multimeter and test out the ohms ... then fill my fridge shelf to shelf with Lagunitas
Yeah he did it opposite way 😅
I just had the repair guy over and he tried to charge me $337 to put one of these in. Thanks for the video, you just saved me a bunch of money.
wow $337? can almost buy a new fridge for that! I am really glad it helped, Ryan! By the way.. SICK BEARD BRO :)
@@ETPCYT haha thanks mate 😁
@@88blackandwhite88 :P
Draw an equlaterial triangle, from left name A,B and C. Between each points put a coil symbol to represent windings. Now, set ur multimeter to ohms. Check value from A to C. Write down C equal?. Then from A to B and B to C. The highest reading is ur run . The lowest is ur common. Ur start is obvious. The two lower values should total to the highest.ususlly A start,B common and C run. A+b=C.
Thank YOU very much my FRIEND! I am sure others will find this very helpful! :)
Hi again, I talked to Supco and was told that connecting properly is vital. 10ohms between start and run, 6 ohms between common and start and 4 ohms between common and run. The repair tech installed a RCO810 rated up to 1/5hp but should have installed the RCO410. Which 3N1 did you use? HOPING that the correct part will fix it and that the compressor isn't toast 🤞
Yeah that sounds right.. Not sure what your repair man was thinking . sorry I didn't respond sooner.. was at work
this cheap "hard-starter" is a standard bush fix.
The best part match is the one listed by the fridge OEM or Embraco.
Why? ... because its got better coil/capacitor match and over current protection.
Newer replacement parts use a smart PTC based on a power triac to 100% disconnect the Start winding unlike legacy PTC that kept heating the PTC Non-stop.
These kits should be chosen per the compressor power rating. In your case the compressor is 187W which is 1/4W and RC0410 is the right one to use. But it will not always be the case as many smaller fridges will be below that rating and RC0810 will be the correct one to use in those cases.
One other comment. There are several postings that say take out the old relay and shake it; if it rattles the relay is bad. If it does not rattle the compressor is bad. That is not always true, at least it was not in my case. I took out the old relay and shook and i did not hear a thing so I assumed my compressor had gone bad. I then went to Lowes and almost bought a new refrigerator but could not get a fast date of delivery. I then came back and said what do I have to loose so I gave it shot by reversing the red and white wires, saved me two thousand dollars for a new fridge I did not need, at least not yet. Not a bad deal for fifteen dollars I had to spend on the 3 in 1 relay
lol I did the same thing, it was the weekend and we were heading out of town.. and .. a warm fridge.. I was going to just buy a new one like you.. then I saw this and so far problem solved.. Thank again for taking time to comment :)
ETPC EPIC TIME PASS CHANNEL Hi, does this 3 in 1 work on all fridge models or do I have to buy a specific one for my Amana fridge.
One other thing. I replaced the old capacitor and start relay which by the way didn't make a rattling noise. The weird thing is, the new part does rattle :/
After watching a lot of videos on possible troubleshootings, I determined that there's nothing wrong with any part (compressor, capacitor and relay, thermostat, cleaning the coils, etc). I'm learning so I don't know if I'm testing for troubleshooting correctly :/ Any suggestions? Thanks :)
this part won't work with linear compressor, only regular 120v compressors
A note on the three prongs. The black goes in the middle, that is simple. The other two 'start' and 'run' can be confusing. My first attempt did not work and the compressor got burning hot, so i unplugged the fridge and let the compressor cool down. After it had cooled down I took the red and white wire prongs off and reversed them (put white where it was red before and vice versa) and it worked for me. The compressor kicked in. So it is a matter of page orientation when you read the diagram.
Great tip, my friend. Thank you for taking time to lend your advice. This seems to be a fairly common issue with relays not working. Mine is still going strong! Have a great day!
Is yours still running strong with red on the right?
Yes, It has been running perfectly.. zero issues
Hey how is your 3 in one still going i heard temp fix but seen your comments say it was still going. Good for you. i just bought one waiting for.it come in but want see how long it lasting u
Hey BRO, sorry for the late reply. Still running great. After the initial hook up it hasn't had a single problem. :) I am VERY pleased with it as I was about to buy a new fridge . I think YOU will be happy with it..
@@ETPCYT great thanks
So just checking again. If the pins are an upside down triangle.... what wire goes were! I saw in the comments that someone said you had it wrong in your video... but it seemed to start!??
Hey my friend.. this was a bit complicated as the instructions didn't really help at all.. yeah they way I hooked it up in the video its still like that and running great..
Hi and if the relay gave two wires which one will you use
perhaps you can email the company and ask them which one is okay.. I am not sure about this
Hey AWESOME video and thanks for taking the time to do it. It's really helpful and ignore those negative comments. That just shows you how cruel people are in this world. Thanks again and God bless
Thanks for the comment DERRICK.. I am sorry it was such bad quality.. I was using an old ipad lol.. take care my FRIEND :) GOD bless YOU too! :)
Received a reply from Supco: I wrote something like this: "I purchased the part yesterday and in the diagram on the package the black wire which is actually at the device's edge, ie it is the outer wire, is mistakenly shown to be the middle of the three wires, and I am not sure whether to trust the location of the black wire (which according to the diagram would make it NOT the ground) or its color (which would signify it as being the ground).
Mike from Supco wrote back: "The wire color should match the terminals for common, start, and run, not the location." I hope this helps some people feel more confident in their choice of which wire to connect where. BTW, I looked at some other videos and I could see that one has a Supco device with the CORRECT order of the wiring...so you may be lucky...
Yeah, it was confusing.. a few people have left some good advice.. it's still going strong :)
If the relay have two wires which one to use as a line wire on a start up kit
hmm I am not sure Gregory.. I wish I had the answer for you :(
Fantastic video, ignore all those nasty comments.
I'm a total novice, so it is very useful to see what was difficult for you, it is easier to learn from that than from a video by an expert who does everything quickly, skipping steps, and who has no idea what will be difficult or confusing to me.
Also, I just bought the same part from Supco yesterday and started searching for install videos which is why I found yours. Indeed as you pointed out the diagram on the package has the colors wrong compared to the actual part in the package, so it is not at all clear which wire goes where, ie whether to trust the placement of the three wires relative to each other or to trust their colors on the diagram, as indeed you explain twice in the video, and as can be seen from the colors of the wires on the part at the beginning of the video.
It was very reassuring to know that you had the same issue and overcame it.
Ignore people who comment negatively without knowing what you encountered. But you are so kind and self-effacing in your responses, that is quite wonderful! Kudos!!!
One thing I can perhaps contribute regarding the issue of correctly identifying which is the ground prong as opposed to the other two prongs. Since the configurtion can be upside down it might be confusing, but there are two prongs are on the same level whether the two are on top or on bottom, so instead of looking for top or bottom, look for the two prongs on the same level, and the other one (not on the same level as them) is the ground.
Thanks again!
If you make more videos, make sure to do it as you did this one - include the mistakes and explain what you learned, so we can also learn from your mistakes - no "perfect videos" please!
Thanks a lot, I appreciate that. VERY much.. I do tend to make unedited videos for the very reason YOU have stated.. and I have had multiple people say they appreciate it because of the reasons YOU mentioned :) YOUR comment is very encouraging and it means a lot that YOU have taken the time to let me know. Also, YOUR tip on the level of the prongs is very helpful. Have a blessed day my FRIEND :)
Was able to pause your video and you did use the higher rated 410. My actual readings are closer to 12, 7 and 5 ohms but still add up right.
maybe that will do the trick to get yours going.. I believe you said earlier that the compressor did turn on .. or was humming.. I hope it works out
You should first attach the three ground wires bundle to one and to the back of the grille with a nut and bolt
Thank YOU my friend ;)
Good job man. and the video is super helpful.😄
Thanks a TON KEVIN :)
Lol! He says "just wing it". Wow. You are brave bro!
brave or stupid lol :) Take care :)
I was at the point of getting a new fridge.. we were just about to go on vacation and it was it either works or I buy a new fridge.. still working :)
Hey I was just wondering how do you know if there is a run capacitor or just a start capacitor I have no idea if my refrigerator had a run capacitor I put a three in one on about a year ago and it is still running fine but what do you think
I am not sure if there is a difference? Mine still doing great too :) Take care FRANK
@@ETPCYT okay thanks man I was just wondering it's been going good for a while so I'm just going to leave it alone all right you have a good one brother
@@franksmith2981 yep going on 4 years on mine :) no issues.. Thanks my FRIEND :)
You need to use an ohm meter if there is no marking on the compressor indicating the common, start and run.
Yeah, I still need to get one of those.
May I know if that is starting cap? If it is, how much is its? Bcoz, here in philippine they don't sell it here.
It is a kind of a boost for the relay to get the compressor working, it replaces the relay switch if I remember correctly. I think this was about 20$ or so
Question. So u hook up ur supco 3 n1. Compressor runs .ok. what about the other wires.? Like to the thermostat. See 2 wires b and w to power, r w &b to comp. There are other wires. Where do I connect them to? The compressor will run continuously.
I am not too sure about the others.. the way I hooked it up in the video is how I did it.. it is still running good and the thermostat and everything is okay..
@@ETPCYT I hook up two. Both running. Now these are refrigerators that was removed from service and put away for sometime. Persons worked on them before and cutout some wires. I'm gonna tie in a cold control,as an option. I still have the original wiring diagram.Thanks for your response. I'm enjoying these videos and.tks sir.
It sounds like YOU know what YOU are doing.. I am not an expert at all.. I thank YOU for watching and I hope it works well for you .. Take care my FRIEND :)
Can you help out with the conection 3 in 1
Oh wow, it's been a while.. I showed it the best I could in the video
Thanks. Had same issue with terminals being upside down on the unit I'm repairing. Now I know what goes where.
You are welcome.. a word of caution, it was brought to my attention in the comments previously that I had the run and start switched. My refrigerator has been working fine ever since with no issues.. However, I still need to get an ohm tester to see which is which for sure.
Thanks bro! Saved me a lot of research time. I had the exact same compressor and 3 in 1. Saved me a lot of time and aggravation
Awesome! I am really glad to hear it. I do apologize for my poor video quality. I realize it wasn't the best lol .. I appreciate you letting me know it helped :) Take care my friend ;)
my start capacitor is on the back panel near the motherboard does it get disconnected?
... I am not 100% sure.. if that is the part that is failing..
Hi, my overload has 3 wires running to it and also the black wire that runs to the starter relay. (total, 4 wires) It has 2 red wires tied together and a black wire, fan wire, running to 1 connector. Like I said, the other black wire that runs to the starting relay top (middle)....So, that leaves me with 3 wires to hook to just the 2 black wires of the 3 in 1 .Am I suppose to uses the 2 red wires and hook them both to 1 of the Black wires of the 3 in 1 and then hook the fan wire to the last black wire of the 3 in 1? I haven't seen a video as of yet where there are 2 red wires and a black wire that are being hooked to the 3 in 1. Do you have an idea as what I should do? Tie both reds to 1 wire of the 3 in 1 and the other black to the 3 in 1 ? Seems since these 3 wires on the over load are hooked together they should stay hooked together but that leaves me a problem of no other wire is left to hook to the last 3 in 1 black wire.Thanks for anyone's help...
Wow yours seems a little more complicated than mine. I don't think mine had any wiring that messed with the fan. I wish I could help more but I am not a pro.. Hopefully someone else can have the answer.
I have three wires one for the overload ,one for the run and one for the start how do I hook up the wires to the two black wires on the hard start?
My compressor also has three prongs one run one start one neutral... You don't use the over load.. just connect the three wires left to the three prongs on the compressor. You should have two black and one red and then the three copper prongs sticking out of the compressor.
I need to see how everything is wired inside the 3n1 cap cover. The person who started this project unplugged everything from the 3n1 and I don't have a clue how it came wired as shipped.
Did this video help?
Wire-nutting (06:50), you got to leave the wires "straight" and let the nut do the twisting.
Hey, Frank, I appreciate the advice. Tips and tricks are always welcome. Have a good one :)
How long did it or has it lasted?
It is still going strong to this day.. from the day I made that video .. It hasn't given me any trouble since :)
@@ETPCYT I installed one yesterday before I msg you. Time will tell.
@@justlive9304 I think YOU will be happy with it :)
That helped me out big time. Thank you
I am so glad to hear that! You are welcome, Nicole :)
I'm fridge has one on it but it says RCO810 instead of the 410, whats the difference?
Thanks for your great video! The repair tech, for a charge of $180, connected the red run wire to start, the white start wire to common and the black common wire to run. It didn't work till, the next morning, I changed them to follow the wiring diagram. Then the compressor came on quietly and became warm, the copper tubing became cool but 12 hours later, the fridge is still not cool let alone cold 😒 The tech said he puts them in any configuration, that it doesn't matter. Is that possible??
hrmm... Like I said, Trish, I am not an electrician but ANY configuration does not sound right to me. if your compressor did start running that is good but I am not sure why your fridge is not cooling.. maybe check your fan to see if it is coming on.. best of luck my friend :)
@@ETPCYT Thanks! The fan always ran well..I vacuumed a lot of dust as the first step. Not giving up yet.
@@trishk9077 I wish I could be more helpful.. this supco did cure mine... I am wracking my brain thinking of what else it could be...
Hey all, for those who are trying to figure out where to plug the white, red and black wires from the supco to the compressor:
1) watch this video: th-cam.com/video/o3f04wHgpb8/w-d-xo.html
2) get a multimeter or ohm meter, watch youtube video on how to use one to check for resistance accross two pins. th-cam.com/video/lo8MWr3NuuM/w-d-xo.html
3) match the pins with the wires as they are labeled on the supco package, ignore the positions of the labels and only use the pin labels and wire color labels.
I have a EGX 70HLC compressor, used the supco RC0410 because the horesepower is 1/4 hp.
Good info, Thanks!
After installing the 3 in 1 start relay, how long before the compressor kicks on? I installed the supco 3 in 1 RCO410 and all that happened after installing it was the fan came on and that's all. The compressor got super hot! So hot you couldn't touch it longer than 1 second. Is that normal? Or is that the giveaway that the compressor is shot?
I noticed it is making a clicking sound every so often, that's all that's happening with the compressor.
Had to unplug it, you know the sound a pot filled with water makes when the lid is on and the water is boiling? Yes, it started to sound like that! I wasn't sure if it was going to blow lol so I unplugged it, and there was a smell too not sure how to explain it, definitely a chemical smell.
Okay... it sounds like the same thing mine was doing.... did you remove the previous relay.. Mine was SUPER HOT too.. arrr gotta go to work I will have to finish this response later.. I 'll be back
Yes, the original relay was off, I followed the instructions down to the t when I installed the 3 in 1. Well 24hrs later and the compressor was slightly warm to the touch, everything was work except the compressor. I think it's time to go shopping for a new one. Sad, very nice full size stainless steel fridge going to the curb come Sunday night.
All right, With mine, it was doing the exact same thing. It was trying to start then it cannot so the original relay on there clicks it off. My compressor was super hot as well. I unplugged it for a bit while I was installing the 3n1. Mine kicked in right after I installed it. Yours is doing what mine was before I removed the the old relay and put this one on. If it is TOO hot and smelling, not a good sign I would think. ( I am not a professional) I would let it cool down, recheck to make sure everything is hooded up correctly then plug it back in.. if that doesn't do it, yeah your compressor is probably shot... I hope this help, my friend.
I was told that the 3 in 1 should be used as a temporary fix not permanent. If this is true then how does someone reverse the 3 in 1 to replace the wire stripping and such?
I put mine in in 2017.. it is still working great.. with zero issues... I wouldn't know what you could do.. if I put the original part in mine, it didn't have the power to start the compressor... You can do what you want but I am going to leave mine in permanently .. take care my Friend :)
The reason the compressor was hot was because the starting capacitor was bad so the start winding could not develope the phase shift needed to spin the motor in the right direction. The rotor just sits there and vibrates while the run coil overheats.
thanks Greg.. good info my friend
I just saw this video. I am currently doing some testing with my small chest freezer. Do you think this device would work for small chest freezers? (IDYLIS Model # IF50CM23NW). Thank you.
So, I saw a RC0410. Now, I don't know which one will I need. RC0810 or RC0410? :-(
It seems most freezers/refrigerators have very similar compressors. I know they have at least two different models of this 3n1 for different compressors. I am not a professional. I know this has work (and is still working) for me :) I looked that freezer up.. I could find everything BUT the compressor specs lol.. If yours is having similar symptoms as mine you might want to give it a shot. Best of luck my Friend :)
Hello, I scoured the internet to see what kind of compressor that freezer has.. I think the 810 should work for you .. I am not 100% sure I couldn't find what HP that compressor is.. I would try the 810 first.. Sorry I can not give you a definite answer :(
@@ETPCYT Hey hey!!! I did it! I actually did it last Sunday. I just had to go back to your channel and make sure I made this comment. At first, I saw a casing for the original relay system of the freezer. Then I was able to figure out how to get it. Then I just followed everything you said. Once the freezer turned on, I put the temp to 4 (middle) but the freezer was hot so I had to put it back to 1. Now, it is all good! Thank you very much! God bless you!
@@richiealvillagante1122 AWESOME!! I really appreciate you letting me know. I love helping people :) You literally just made my day, Richie :) May God bless you as well my FRIEND :) I know HE has blessed me beyond measure.
I have three wires one for the run, one for the start and one for the overload, how do I hook up the wires to the two black wires on the hard start if I have to install one?
I am sorry I didn't get to this sooner.. It has been such a long time, I am not sure
The left would be from the rear view?
hello I think so
How do you know which is start run prongs ?
Hello, I tried to go off the diagram.. but I think someone commented about how to if you read the other comments :)
Don't leave the 3-N-1 on the compressor if the refrigerator is equipped with a board. You can use the 3-N-1 temporarily but replace the original relay (you can use an aftermarket brand to save money) as soon as possible because it can possibly damage the board. 3-N-1 is only good for hard starting compressors where the original relay will not start the compressor. If a hard start is needed because the new relay fails to start the unit, then it indicates a compressor problem because it needs more current to start and the compressor will have a higher amperage draw when its running. A 3-N-1 is just putting a "Band-Aid" on the unit.
Hey Psycho, Thank you for the advice/ tip. I was unable to find any relay replacement for my refrigerator. My "Band-Aid" has been running my refrigerator just fine for the last 8 months. I figure when it dies I will have to get a new one.. but until it does, I will leave it on.
The embraco compressor uses a solid state relay. It has a built in overload and a plug-in capacitor. You can buy a replacement relay designed for your compressor from any appliance parts supply house (many sell to the general public) they can sell for $40-$55 if you buy OEM. An aftermarket is the same exact relay but much cheaper. When the hot air from the condenser at the back of the fridge restricts the hot air from the condenser fan, the compressor will develop high head pressure causing the compressor to work harder and draw more amperage and get very hot. The compressor should draw between 1.2 to 1.5 amps when working properly and the hot air can be drawn out. While you have the 3-N-1 on the compressor, take your Ammeter and clip it on the common wire and check the amperage. Bear in mind when using a 3-N-1 a compressor can last 5 seconds or 8 years. A 3-n-1 will not increase the efficiency of the compressor. I only use them temporarily until I can get the proper relay. Keep the refrigerator about 5-6 inches away from the wall. Tip: Keep your condenser clean.
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Hello how do I know which one works with my refrigerator
hmm... I am not sure how I found this one.. they have different HP ratings for the compressors I think.. they only had a couple of these I think and this one fits the standard (I think 1/3 hp compressor) I am going off of memory here so kinda rusty
I saw that someone said that the wiring is wrong what is the correct wiring
Well The way I did it, it is still working since I made this video. :)
Okay will do thanks for replying so fast
Anytime my Friend ;) Best of luck :)
Would one not be better to get the relay/starter the same type as the old one you took off.
I am not sure. I tried everywhere I could in town to find the parts I needed. After a 3 hours of going to every place I could think of (naturally this happened on the weekend) I scoured the internet. I don't think I was able to locate the original parts so I vouched for this item. I am not sure if I would have ran into the same issue of the relay switch tripping again and again.
Thanks for replying, probably a cheaper option anyway.
I try to respond to everyone as soon as I can. Yes, they are quite inexpensive and their use seems to be widespread.
I would be sure that the ratings are the same between the new replacement, and the one that went bad. Rating of capacitor / and the relay relate to the HP of your compressor
If I have to connect three wires instead of two to the black wires on the hard start what should I do
sorry so late on the reply, I didn't get a notification of your post.. I am not exactly sure with that configuration.. did you figure it out?
if its your own fridge do not buy this style of magic kit... instead buy the OEM part matched to your compressor. It will make your compressor last as long as possible.
Why: compressors mechanicals do not like to be jolted repeatedly.
I couldn't find the part for my compressor.. and I this 3N1 has been running like a charm since I installed it.. all I know was my refrigerator wasn't working and now it is :)
White wire should face you black on bottom and red away from you! Embraco compressor pins are upside down! Good job though
Good tips my FRIEND, thanks so much :)
Thanks, cool vid, helps alot, Gracias.
Thank you ;)
worked on appliances these things last years
I am happy with it :) 15$ or 1500$ lol was an easy fix ;)
Where can you find the 3 and 1 kit. Buy it
Here is a link from AMAZON : amzn.to/2BpVbIo This is the one I used
Why would you ever work on anything electrical without a meter. It will never tell you the windings on the compressor. You should make a video when you understand everything that you are doing. Other people are relying on your information. That is just irresponsible. Im glad you did it right by mistake at least.
great advice my FRIEND. I do need to get a meter for sure. Have a wonderful day, LUIS :)
You can't tell people anything. They will find out the hard way when they get shocked.
That green wire that’s screwed to the body of the fridge where those it go,because mine was screwed to the body and the other end was screwed to the side of the relay..it’s confusing me
Green is your ground wire as you can see from my video my ground is coming off of the compressor.. I don't think Mine had a green wire from the relay and I am not sure exactly where it should go.. do you have the same setup as mine?
no it’s different..mine is a Haier chest freezer..model-HF50CW20W
I see.. the supco doesn't have a wire for the ground.. you can see that I have other ground wires (the green ones) attached to the frame of my refrigerator... Maybe if you have ones like that you can run your green wire to those? I am not too sure.. I wish I could be more helpful..
it’s okay brother thanks I really appreciate I will figure it out
:) take care, Michael :)
I installed rco 410. Fun is running and compressor is not. Any ideas??
..maybe try a reset button on the back of the fridge behind a panel that is screwed in... The 3N1 has nothing to do with the fan ( I don't think) I too out the old relay/breaker and installed this and it has been working flawlessly since
Thanks for reply. I called few places to get technician do it. First appointment was today, from Sears. I agreed to $125 diagnostic charge. He came and I wasn't home, my wife was. First 15 minutes he was trying to sell warranty. Another 15 min he was looking at his computer ( not connecting to refrigerator for check up?). Next, he took multimeter and router hed something twice. When done he said over $600 to replace top board. I called asking why and he said that board was $215 so I said rest $400 is for labor? No reply. I asked how much is hourly labor and said he doesn't know and the price is what computer is telling him. I asked for supervisor name and phone,he declined. I asked for anybody's contact and he declined.
At the end I said I will pay for diagnosing, part and labor 1 hour since its plug and play. He declined my offer. I told him to leave since he can't provide honest service. No pay
Now waiting for Samsung service on Wednesday. Will update
Is your refrigerator a Samsung? Mine is a Kenmore.. Wow, sounds like he was trying to put one over on you.. $600??? that is crazy. Well done on getting rid of that individual. I hope you have better luck with Samsung. With a refrigerator, they kind of have us over a barrel because our food and everything can perish. You don't realize how much you depend on your refrigerator until it stops working.
Thank you.. best of luck my friend!
How can lget it ,I'm living in tanzania
hmm.. can order online:?
Look on your old relay it might say 5 to 1
I forgot to look
Still working?
Yep.. no issues since I uploaded this video
@@ETPCYT thats awesome! You posted that vid back in 2017 and it sounded like you where ready to buy replace the fridge. Thanks
original relay is cheaper then SUPCO
But the original kept tripping for me
It Is possible to 1 hp fridge compressor ?
Show me how i Can Do to open it
if it is hooked up like in the video it should work
really should have cut those wires long enough to reuse them if you needed to
Very good info sir, thank YOU for the advice :)
Based on my experience and feedbacks this device is an almost guaranteed way to kill a refrigerator compressor in a year.
Can anybody explain me why it is so harmful?
From the time I installed this.. and made the video.. my fridge has been working perfectly no issues
What's so hard it the back of the package red black white . black top red right white left side 🤣🤣
yeah I dunno it seemed confusing to me for some reason .. I am not the smartest one out there ;)
This kind of compressor needs run capacitor, this 3in1 Supco device has only start capacitor so the compressor will burn soon … this mike mouse expert doesn’t know what he is doing !…
hey ARMINDO, I probably don't know what I am doing but... my refrigerator has been running flawlessly since I put this in and that was when this video was made.. so far so good. :) Take care my FRIEND and be safe
@@ETPCYT the rc stands for run capacitor so it is absolutely the correct item
i think d rc is relay capacitor and o is overload. epic. u r great. plus great comm skills on how u handled the commentnof s othwr guy. keep ot up. question is, did u remove d run capacitor? i think u have 12 uF run cap originally.
I live for yutube
lol TH-cam is nice but there is more to life my FRIEND :)
My fridge is samsung and it has 3 wires in the relay and overload. It's like 7:36 in th-cam.com/video/0crG4qREn0I/w-d-xo.html
How would you connect the 2 black wire from the 3in1 to the 3 wires from the fridge?
Hey Kevin, I will check it out and get back to you.. I should have an answer by the end of today..
Hey Kevin, I found this video : th-cam.com/video/SMeSWPWajCI/w-d-xo.html it has 3 wires like yours. It looks like if you have 3 wires and two are the same color you attach both of them together that are the same color and those would attach to one black wire then your remaining single wire would be attached to the other one. I am not an expert and I have no formal training as an electrician so take what I say with a grain of salt :).. I hope this helps you my friend. Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. Let me know how it works out, Kevin. Take care!
Hi, Thanks for helping me look into this. Mine has 3 wires, the overload is hot red, then the relay has two wires, which is pink and blue... I am guessing it's different...
I probably can try attaching the pink and red with one of the black wires and see what happens :)
That would be my "guess" too. I tried looking up schematics for it with no success... I wish I could be more helpful.. Just be careful :) I hope it works out.
There is an instruction paper that always come with this device and it should not be this at all difficult to do and more so you are not really communicating,you are just murmuring and not communicating.The reason you are doing this video is to help other people understand how it is done but from the look of things you don't even understand how it is done so how will you be able to help others.
hey Gregg, I am sorry for the poor quality of this video I may do a new one that is better to show how it is hooked up now. This was a while ago and I have better equipment to make videos now ;)
@@ETPCYT You are the best Men,thanks for trying and I do appreciate the fact you understand what I am saying and most importantly for the fact that you want to make things right.I do wish you the very best of luck while you do your thing.
hi ETpc. u r a good man. with ur communication so positive. u handle people well. keep it up. thats d way to communicate. u r really setting a good example. greatly appreciate what u did and doing. bravo ;)
It certainly helped me and the diagram they provide is not very helpful in regards to the 2 black wires esp if you aren’t an hvac person.
no disrespect
None taken my FRIEND :)
You are making a video to show the viewers how to fix a fridge. This is a terrible how-to video. You don't work on figuring it out on the video, you figure it out first then show the public how it's done. You made an 18 minute video that should have been 3 minutes.
I appreciate the advice.. I try to show troubles that I encounter so that if others have the same issue they can see how I worked through it
If you don't know what you're doing you really shouldn't be making how to videos...just saying
I appreciate the feedback, Blaine. This worked for me so I thought I would share it with others. Have a good one :)
your configuration of the wires is upside down. rotate the picture so the pins match.... red and white should be reversed
Hi, if the 3N1 was connected wrong, could it or the compressor be damaged?
.. I am not an expert but I assume that is a possibility as with any appliance that is wired in correctly.