I feel like wasted opportunity was turning Ruby into a secondary character. She had importance in the first season and then her character didn't matter as much anymore.
Ruby’s storyline being pushed to the side coincided with the actress taking a lead role on another show so it’s hard to say whether who was really the driving force behind those changes.
As I mentioned earlier, I think Ruby and Mulan would've made a great couple. Both are strong, brave women in their own ways, they've been traveling companions for a while, they look great together, they support each other, have chemistry... Yeah, they would've made a way better couple than Ruby and Dorothy.
meggie004 If I remember correctly, Ory took the other role because the writers of OUAT were not utilising Ruby. She’d signed on as a series regular in season two and they’d had plot ideas (I remember a romance between her and Dr. Whale being mentioned). But then suddenly they got the rights to Hook and Neverland so it was a bit of “shiny new toy syndrome”. Unfortunately Ruby’s story was what took the hit.
"season 4 was dedicated to frozen. We would have gladly traded it out for other characters like Moana." That would have been impressive considering Moana hadn't even been out in theaters by that time.
😂 true and I really like season 4 but it would have been cool to see Moana in a later season when it was actually out although I don’t know how they would have implemented it into the story
MorganAnne143 you and me both the last season was basically a failed reprisal of the first season the only good thing that came ov it was the princess and the frog characters
I thought of another wasted opportunity. I think that they wasted the opportunity to make Rumple and Henry's relationship stronger.I would have loved to see more dynamic between the two. I just think that they could have been closer and it would have been nice to see.
I feel like the main wasted opportunity was the untold stories. They could have created original fairytale characters and used that for the sequel instead of doing what they did with Henry
YES!!! When Rumple dies in season 7, Henry, his grandson, shows ZERO emotion! Hook seems more torn up about it, AND HE WANTED TO KILL RUMPLE FOR THE LONGEST TIME!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah same here and then they paired ruby with another once off character who came back grown up - Dorothy. At least mulan/ruby made sense and actual chemistry due to a few eps together
What also drove me nuts was the fact that they established Mulan as gay, had Red and her travel together for months and Red and Dorothy end up together. WTH. They really really did not want to give Mulan a love interest. Red and Dorothy spend one episode together. Even though Red and Mulan hadn't been seen in a while we knew they were traveling together. It should have been Mulan missing and Red rescure her. We didnt need the addition of Dorothy.
I feel that killing Neal off was a waste. Even if he was no longer with Emma, he still was a compelling character on his own right, and to be honest, much more dynamic than a lot that came after.
Honnestly i don't think so... Even tho i still think CaptainSwan is one of the major things that destroyed the show let's be honnest... I'd rather have that than an annoying love triangle between Emma Hook and Neal for the rest of the show..
Agreed. This whole show wouldn't have been possible without him since it all began with Rumple losing him and dedicating the next 300 years of his life to finding him. Do you know how many of the characters wouldn't have even existed without Rumple? Regina, Charming, Emma, Henry, Belle probably would have died in the ogre wars.
@@danielelizondo7627 she wasn't actually a nun only her storybrooke persona was which means the could have been together and i wish they were but i guess not
@@demiladeadegorusi3961 i wanted them together. But when the curse was broken everyone went back to their "curse job" so maybe that's why leroy and astrid never were a thing
The only disappointing things were: 1-Season7 like most of it 2-Dark swan had potential but it wasn't well done 3-neal shouldn't have died 4- king Arthur and Camelot wasn't well done, the underworld was great though
I was kind of annoyed dark swan didnt actually make us hate her too much. All she really did was steal a pick axe and take peoples memories away cos of the hook thing.
I know both of these actors had to leave to work on something else, but I would have loved to have seen more of Graham and Jefferson (but I'm also a HUGE Marvel fan, and I couldn't imagine anyone else playing Bucky)
But Neal would have gotten in the way of hook and Emma's relationship. Also, Neal was 24 and Emma was 17 when they met. All Neal did was get her in trouble. He's a bit of an asshole, and didn't have much of a character arc at all.
Jefferson was one of my most favorites as well. It would have been cool to see him in more episodes/seasons. Same with Peter Pan. I loved his character as well. The actor who played him was great at playing both sides: good (when he became Henry after they switched hearts/minds/bodies) and evil (as Peter Pan)
Laurawr _ I know I loved Jefferson he was reunited with his daughter and then discarded like he was in 4 episodes and that was it and I loved August they could’ve done so much more with him even if they had showed him at Emma and hooks wedding I would’ve been happy with that
UMMMMM HELLOOOO.....the biggest disappointments in my opinion is Ruby/Red Riding Hood who was Snows best friend barely being in the show period. AND Emma’s character NEVER developing, she stayed the same throughout the entire show. No wonder Jennifer Morrison left the show. This show could have gone on as long as shows like Greys Anatomy. If they truly wanted to. But I feel like the producers lost interest and faith in it. So many wasted opportunities. Dude I wanted to see Merida and the four clans face King Arthur and the knights of the round table. If done right that would have been epic and you know she would have killed him herself.
I enjoyed the underworld arc but merida not getting to be the one to take out king arthur was just horrible. She just shows up for a cameo in that same episode for basically no reason.
@@carlosromero3562 They totally could've done such a cute storyline for Ruby. We could've seen her like break free from her Gran and get a place of her own and we'd get to see more of her style and how she is around her relationships with people she's dating and the townsfolk and she could've had so many storylines that could've gone so far.
I was totally upset that Ruby became a secondary character . She was so like able and had a great story. I was also frustrated that they killed off Neal/Baelfire especially so quickly because I really liked him and I think they could have done more with him. Also malificent and Lilly should have had more screen time.
I always cry at Neal’s death and it is really sad. But I do think it was necessary for the plot and for captain swan to move forward. Looking back on it after re watching the show over 4 times now
And yet the. s has to boosted numbers. Also a plot was left unfinished, the murder of Charming’s father. And according to the rati NV drops, no one will watch a show where the hero marries a murderer. Murderers will just get killed off in a revival.
ary i think that would’ve made a good love triangle, it reminds me of emma, neal, and hook. violet (like neal) could’ve been someone that henry loved in the past and maybe still had feelings for, while ella (like hook) could’ve been someone that henry was interested in before violet came back. it would’ve been very entertaining
Ikr! Like ik sebastion Stan probably had his plate full with The Winter Solder, but they could’ve at least put in a filler episode of what happened to Jefferson
I think they wasted Merlin big time! That dude was dope! The way he did magic was so different and refreshing, and his character was one of the most intriguing that got added to the show after Pan and Zelena. They killed him off way too quickly!
I'm still bitter about his death. Plus, damn was he fine (not the point, but I have eyes ok). He was also such a force of good for Emma - there was something so soothing and calm about him.
Don Quixote and Paul Bunyan were shown in that book found at the end of season 5, yet we just kinda never got anymore of that. This could've easily been in season 7 instead of 2nd rate cinderella family. Along with a lot of other things like city=cathedral=hundback of notre dame story.
I'm forever salty about the Mulan/Aurora/Philip triangle. Not only because it was suddenly dropped but also because most of their story was developed offscreen. They should have gotten a spinoff or at least been heavily focused in a later season.
Mulan I think they had to be careful because it’s Chinese culture. They had to drop it because Sarah Bolger played Aurora left because she got cast in Into The Badlands.
As I stated earlier I am glad that the love triangle wasn't explored. Phillip's kiss saved Aurora from Maleficent's curse, which proved that he was her true love. Also, I honestly believed that the love triangle would've become sloppy and forced just like the one with Jim Gordon, Barbara Keen, and Renee Montoya in season 1 of 'Gotham'. That was one of the many reasons why I gave up on the show right away.
@Whitney Pyant, Jamie Chung left after the third episode of season 3 because she went on to become a series regular in the short-lived series 'Believe'. Sarah Bolger and Julian Morris made a few more guest appearances during that season, but then Morris went on to do shows like 'New Girl' and 'Hand of God'. Bolger made her final appearances in season 4, but then she became very busy with other projects too.
............... What were did dorothy come from?....................... And then they go together for some reason. This isn't twilight with imprinting is it?
@@funtimetoto4389 Red was looking for her pack with Mulan when she stumbled into Oz, where they both met Dorothy. And I din't think it was imprinting, it was more like love at first sight sort of. It kinda came out of no where.
@@joanderson6880 It was a sarcastic kinda joke thing. I was just comparing it to imprinting cuz may i remind you jacob fell in love with bella cuz there was a baby inside her the was destined to become his soul mate. And when he saw her he insantly fell in love.
@@PryMateYt hahah they were a cute first-love couple, I don't know if it would've worked with all the travelling Henry did, after all he was still young when it all started.
LunaBlox we all know Ruby is with Dorothy which is why the comment says they should have sailed but didn’t. Ruby & Mulan would have been so much better.
1) Season 5 was a mistake (except the 2 episodes that had nothing to do with the main plot) 2) Belle was wasted as a character. She's my fav but she never had a chance to branch outside of her relationship with Rumplestilskin.
Rumple and Baelfire is easily the biggest for me. There are dozens of loose ends that irritate me but none as much as this one. So promising and so forgotten.
SilentSaturn I think what she mean is the fact that Bael died. Bael never had the relationship with his dad and had the proper closure from his relationship with Emma. Or even see his mother. Rumple honestly should have stayed dead when he sacrifice himself to save his family from Peter Pan.
Анна Крижевская but then there were some points when rumple was needed so it wouldn’t have made sense for him to be killed at that point although I’m glad he died in the series finale ever since Belle died rumple had been useless and he died doing the right thing he saved nooks life and let him be with Alice
Okay first off 1. Dark Swan was a major disappointment in my opinion they never let Emma do.anything really dark except the first episode of season 5 when she rips Meridas heart out but nothing came of it 2. The Frozon storyline was probably one of my favorites besides season 1 and season 3. 3. Henry and Ella I never really got into as a couple they were cute but I really liked ivy and Henry better but personality I thought that Alice and Robin was the new snow and charming for season 7. They should of had more screentime 4. Everything after season 4 started to revolve around captainswan which hey I liked them as a couple too but give everybody else some screen and story time I would have loved new characters being added and gladly sacrificed some of the captainswan scenes Okay rant over lol
Lily and Maleficent: Hell, the whole story arc with Lily and Maleficent was wasted! Lily was a baby stolen from her mother before she hatched because the Charmings were scared that their daughter MIGHT be evil. There could have been a whole redemption arc for the charmings (who we never see apologize to LILY) and a forgiveness arc for Lily as she learned to move past her anger. Or Lily could have been the villain in the final season. She would have a good reason for attacking the Charmings and wouldn't feel forced in at the last moment. This arc and characters had so much potential, but they wasted it! Ursula: They just gave Ursula Ariel's story and she deserved her own. Killing Baelfire: Killing Baelfire was the WORST mistake they made in this series. The worst thing is that they had plenty of chances to bring him back, but failed.
I'm glad they mentioned the chemistry between Henry and Ivy (Drizella), I thought they could've been great. I loved Ella (Jacinda) and Lucy, but I definitely agree that the Cinderella story was just a little too safe/boring for the ending of the show.
Um excuse me I would not like to disagree with u but there was. So many exciting plots in their story and also Henry never liked ivy the daughter of lady tramaine u mean and also Umade so many mistakes in this it’s not funny you should feel silly sorry but right off the bat you r mixing up the names of the people that means you are prabably not a major fan of the show personally me likening this series so much I even pity u right now
Ms. Mojo.... Moana was released 2 YEARS AFTER SEASON 4! THEY COULDN’T HAVE DONE IT ANYWAY WITH THE INTENDED FINAL SEASON BEING FROM 2016-2017 AND EVERYTHING BEING SET!! CHECK FACTS BEFORE CRITICIZING!!!
I feel like a wasted opportunity was Ruby/Red/Little Red Riding Hood she could have been a good fighter and a good character but they totally left her personality back in season 2.
Merlin's death still makes me sad. They could've done so much more with him. He was such a calming moral compass, and really helped to guide Emma towards the light.
Yes, what would’ve been better would’ve been to have Emma actually become evil with Merlin being the one to actually help stop and save her from the darkness. The Apprentice said that only Merlin could destroy the darkness and yet, they didn’t even have him living up to the title of “the most powerful wizard of all time”. That was so disappointing. Also, does anybody think that maybe Emma should have become the Dark One after Rumple sacrificed himself in season 3? As a result of that, Neil would not have been killed off, Storybrooke would’ve remained destroyed and they would not have ended up bringing in so many unnecessary characters. Emma could’ve been the main villain for a good while, which could’ve added more to Regina’s character development storyline and they probably could’ve still fitted in Zelena...
Yea the whole Camelot arc as a whole was the lowest point of the show to me. Dark Swan went nowhere and wasn’t even what it was touted as. Merlin was wasted. Would have loved to stretch it out and have Morgan la Fey as a big bad with connection to the dark one and being the black fairy.
I’m honestly tired of the whole “we lost our memories of who we truly are” plot. I just couldn’t watch anymore after Henry took over as the main protagonist
A shame since they really did have some great writers on the show - Jane Espenson was a real standout to me. A combination of the actors personal lives, scheduling conflicts etc definately contributed to the way the story was shaped, but still the writing took a turn for sure.
I think Mulan did love Phillip but the writers changed their minds. Mulan treated Aurora kinda badly, acted jealous, and was crying when they thought that Phillip had died. She even said something like "I've known Phillip a lot longer than you have!"
The Brave storyline. Yes the actress who played Merdia did a good performance. Yet her brothers barely had any character development. The Camleot storyline. Ugh. Guverine is still stuck under the sands of avalon curse! Violet and Henry had great chemistry but alas she was forgotten about...
Faïsel El Katbani Heyyyy, that’s no reason to judge someone. I didn’t like Jacinda either, but that’s because I thought her character was basic. You shouldn’t judge anyone for something they can’t control, like the way they talk.
I loved Neal as a really interesting character in his own right but it seems most people only saw him as a love interest for Emma that was standing between her and hook. It's such a shame because he had such dynamic relationships with so many characters.
Melanie Cusick exactly. Bae had a lot of potential in his relationship with rumple and Henry. I can’t believe that the dark curse (along with everything that happened so the dark curse could be cast) all of that happened so rumple could be reunited with bae. They really didn’t get closure . It was mostly just Neil being angry at rumple and then Neil dying in the span of less than 2 seasons
Let's be honest, the show's whole problem is its habit of abandoning subplots and characters without a drop of closure as well as lacking fundamental logic and structure. I still believe we could have ended at Season 3 but no.
What also drove me nuts was the fact that they established Mulan as gay, had Red and her travel together for months and Red and Dorothy end up together. WTH. They really really did not want to give Mulan a love interest. Red and Dorothy spend one episode together. Even though Red and Mulan hadn't been seen in a while we knew they were traveling together. It should have been Mulan missing and Red rescure her. We didnt need the addition of Dorothy.
Xengar I agree! Season 3 episode 11 could have been an ending (although a very bittersweet one) and all OUAT did after that was keep making new problems that no one asked for (ex. Frozen, Merida, Dark Swan, Serum Evil Queen) instead of continuing more interesting plotlines they already had.
Lmao, no season 7 was absolute shit. After watching that season I will never watch another season of Once Upon A Time again. As of the other 2? You could really tell that the writers just completely ran out of ideas when they introduced the Frozen arc and the totally bullshit Emma is the “dark one” arc. 1. We all knew from the very beginning that Emma would not stay the dark one, like honestly it was predictable that I found it quite boring to watch. 2. Okay, it’s Frozen I don’t even have to say any more. It’s so fucking stupid that they would even introduce the movie into the show like wtf were they thinking? Really it’s sad they had to drag Once Upon Upon A Time out like this, if they just had maybe 3 seasons I feel like it could have had the potential to be a truly amazing show.
@@alexisbaze The only absolute shit is the points you've made. Like what the hell are you saying? Season 7 was brilliantly made, with alot of character development like Drizella's and Rapunzel's. Not to mention the closure each character had was logical and on point. 1. Emma being dark is of course impossible because that's been established in Seasons 4B. But the storyline about S5A was the mystery of what happened in Camelot and why Emma casted a curse. And the reveal that Hook is a Dark One was awesome and unpredictable. 2. The frozen arc included the Frozen story, however this wasn't the point. The arc was psychological to the fullest. From Emma's Loss of control in her power. To the Snow Queen's mentality of a rejected being, and wanting a family that accepts her. So either understand what you're watching, or don't give uneducated comments and call them critiques.
also killing Neal off before him and Henry got to have a proper relationship. that was one of the saddest things the show did. and I mean if they’d kept Neal, rumple might have started acting like Henry’s grandfather
Lily's father is Zorro (Don Diego de La Vega) - yeah, that's canon, no joke here. He apparently was so in love with Mal that turned into a dragon for one night so she would accept him. But Mal didn't want to settle down and disappeared and Zorro, well, he finds his family much later. Another wasted opportunity for a dramatic romance with all the Spanish passion.
To this day I still can't believe how much they destroyed the Dark Swan storyline. It had the best potential and then they crashed it into the ground. I do not understand how Emma can "do an evil act" and then this changes her look (she looks evil) and yet she still continues to be good inside, she just looks evil. Like wtf even is that. I do not believe that that idea came from the same writers that thought up Season 1 and Season 3 (which imo were the best storylines in the show)!
Emma makes mistakes, but she doesn't commit evil acts. Because in S4b it was established that her potential for darkness was given to Lily... That's why the Dark Swan storyline was so logical in that matter. It would have been stupid to retcon what they established in the previous plot.
Well, she did kill Cruella... She just didn't go evil. And she's totally not perfect. However, she's still the only one who can withstand darkness alongside Alice and Anastasia... The Saviour and The Gaurdian. If you know what I mean.
What the hell? Did you even watch S4? It was already established, again, that Emma can't go dark. She doesn't have the potential for darkness. It would have been a stupid idea to make her evil. And no The Dark One plot was the story the writers really wanted to address, and that is why the Underworld story was not thought about nor implemented correctly unlike previous story lines. Lily and Maleficent are just recurring characters their role to the story is limited to what the story needs them to tell. And their story is irrelevant to the plot line the writers were handling, that kind of storytelling is called plot-based(against character-based). I can say you don't like Captain Swan and that is why you didn't like the arc. Personally, I couldn't care less about ships, I only watch the show for the plot. So I can't sympathise with you not liking it because of CaptainSwan.
It kinda would have been cool if Dark One Swan and Lily had ended up bonding over their shared darkness. Remember Lily has Emma's darkness so she of all people knows how it feels. Maybe they would even plot against the Charmings together because the darkness reminded Emma of all her hardships and turned her bitter again.
“The first half of season 4 was solely dedicated to frozen. We’ll gladly would have traded some of those episodes to see Emma cross paths with Mary Poppins, Christopher Robins or Moana” Me:... Me: first of all no, except Moana, but Moana came out in 2016 and the last episode of season 4 of Once Upon A Time was in May 10th of 2015. 2015. Mate, get your facts straight, don’t criticise on things that are impossible
Aurora was too wrapped up in Phillip she would have never been with Mulan. I always imagined Mulan and Ruby somehow crossing paths they would have me shook as a couple
Ruby and Mulan do cross paths Mulan goes with Ruby to help her find her pack. And instead of them together we get Red and Dorothy. They had a chance to fix that with Merida, because Mulan trains her but nope.
I will always root for Mulan & Ruby. They could have made a kick-ass power couple traveling through realms going on different adventures which could have turned into a cool spinoff with characters like Merida, Ariel, Anna and maybe even Aladin popping up here and there. I was also never a Dorothy fan.
I liked when Mulan and Belle teamed as two warriors trying to prove themselves -- Mulan with her sword and Belle with her mind. I would have loved to have seen more stories showing their friendship.
There being no payoff to Mulan's feelings in general was a missed opportunity. They missed out with Aurora. Then they had a chance with Mulan and Merida, they missed out on that. Then they had a chance with Mulan and Red Riding Hood.. they missed out on that.. or rather they didn't miss out, they just brought back Dorothy strictly for the reason of making her Red's girlfriend so that they could get it out of the way and say they created an LGBT couple, one that never had to appear again so they could say "we did it" and get it done with.. not because they actually wanted to. It was sickening. Which is why there was literally no time dedicated to it, and Mulan is still put on the backburner with her feelings.
Drizella and Henry had way more Chemistry! Hate to say it, but jacinda was so boring . We never found out who Lily’s father was, sucked since writers said we would. Emma being the dark one was TRASH, because she was never really dark or evil
Another thing is the whole Camelot arc, i was greatly disapointed that Arthur became a villain and Merlin was killed of and we never got an answer on what happen’d to the rest of the kingdom including Gwen. And Robin Hood’s character, he didn’t have a storyline by the time he was killed of. And i think killing of Neal was a mistake, maybe he and Emma weren’t gonna end up together but he rarely got to spend time with his son.
That what they did with Peter Pan in season 3, they take iconic legendary figures into villains. I known it's meant to be a twist on these classic stories, but seriously what in God's name were these people writing this show were thinking? They just Arthur into an egoistical, self obsessed, misogynist antagonist. Also why couldn't they include Morgan le Fay or Mordred in this show, they would have been better villains instead of Arthur.
How about them never again addressing snows blackened heart and her and charming being able to enter glindas bubble thing that only let the purest of heart to enter???
K people always talk about how snow shouldn't be able to enter BUT WHAT ABOUT CHARMING? We see him kill guards and stuff onscreen all the time but it's NEVER MENTIONED! Like, do reginas knights not count as human beings?
I love the show with every thing in me (along with broadway lol) they didn’t need season 7. At all. And Cinderella was already a character. But they added another one. That’s my opinion
i was so disappointed that Maleficent and Lily ust disappeared, they didn´t even bother to explain where they went...they talked about staying in storybrook for a week or so and BOOM they are gone and never mentioned again. why do great characters alwas disappear? in most cases its to shove in another Zelena episode, i grew into tolerating her but its no annoying that they always squeeze her in every plotline....
uh.... kinda defending the frozen storyline here but that season aired the year after Frozen came out so Moana couldn't really had been an option then... Mary Poppins and Christopher Robin might have been able to show up though.
But I think this show should have introduced some lesser known fairy tales; like Baba Yaga, Rose Red from Snow White and Rose Red, Donkeyskin, Shahrazad, and Bluebeard. Along with other literary characters; such as Count Dracula, Sherlock Holmes, characters from the works of Shakespeare and Charles Dickens. And the gods from Norse Mythology.
@@willlyon7129 I just saw a 60 facts about OUAT that said Graham (huntsman) was suppose to be Sherlock Holmes originally, but the show couldn't get copyright permission. I think maybe that is why other famous tales are missing. It would have been great to have characters from Narnia, or perhaps some Dickens characters like Tim Cratchit grown up or Oliver Twist. Lots of classic tales were left out.
1. Merida 2. Mulan 3. Swan Queen 4. Ruby and her relationship with Kansas which made absolutely no sense 5. Plotholes, especially in S7 6. Rumple story of good and evil is too repetetive and he probably should have died when he sacrificed himself when killing Peter Pan. 7. Maleficent, her daughter and her relationship with Regina + her father 8. Everyone coming back from the dead in general except actors that said goodbye to the show. I watched the show since the beginning and I have loved it ever since but the ending and some choices A&E made are just disappointing and make no sense. It's just really sad since the original story of Once upon a time is great.
I'm sorry but Kansas is spelled with a K not a c sorry just bothered me and yes numbered 4 it because of twilight imprinting( not confirmed but hey it's the only option we have to deal with) And i agree
It would have been fun to see more characters in the land of untold stories. Like a kida and milo from atlantis, or a pocahontas. But after all, we love the show
And they made a huge deal in Neverland about having a baby but almost never showed him while Henry was literally becoming a teenager Neal stayed a newborn the whole fricken show until the last episode
I’m always going to be salty over Ruby x Dorothy becoming cannon when the dynamic between Ruby x Mulan was way more interesting and actually had more back plot. 😒
Faïsel El Katbani because the show clearly implies it, though it doesn't claim it. Mulan wanted to say to Aurora that she was in love with her, but then Aurora told her she is pregnant and she just left. And yeah, I really don't like Ruby and Dorothy plot. They spent what, two days together? A week? And already true love kiss? Really?
Honestly, everything after season 3. They kept cramming in so many characters--who mostly went no where in the span of a couple episodes--at the expense of forgetting about chracters who had been well-establish in the first couple of seasons. And I will forever be salty about the fact that the writers could never make up their mind about Rumple. Regina was given a wonderful redemption arc, but noooo let's continue to make Rumple an awful character when the writers have run out of ideas, it's fine to completely ruin the Rumbelle ship on multiple occasions.
What they did to Rumple and what happened with Rumbelle is what pissed me off the most. I quit after 3 and adding Frozen not too long after it came out was such a cash grab.
SO TRUE! honestly I wish they had dedicated time to other traditional characters during the Frozen half season too, it wasn't necessary to add it since it is not canon they were just playing off the newly popular movie. I agree that the yoyo of character development with Gold was the biggest disappointment in the show. The most disappointing story plot was when Emma became the Dark One to save Gold but he just ended up the Dark One again in the end.
The entire Dark Swan storyline would have been much better with Neal instead of Hook. Neal had much more reason to hate becoming the Dark One than Hook did.
Thank you. Someone else understands. That's how it is my headcanon at least. Also in my headcanon where Neal lives, Emma is the one that dies and Neal's the one who tries to save her from the underworld. I think that would have been a great way to show growth from those characters from Neal abandoning her in jail to literally going through hell for her. And also nice for everyone else to band together and save the savior for once. Plus in season 6 imagine all the angst we could of gotten to see from Neal being torn between his brother and Emma. Uhh, killing off his character was such a mistake. Oh well at least that's what fanfiction is for.
Honestly, what I hate the most is how little sense the "Black Fairy" story makes, and how they missed the opportunity to explain all of the fairy lore. The fairies have been there from the start, and the "Blue Fairy" seem to be a very ancient and important character, yet we know nothing of them, heck, the Black Fairy wasn't even a fairy to begin with.
To be honest I always felt that Henry's relationship with Ella was a really safe and boring kind. If they went with the story of him falling for Drizella it wouldn't or even him falling any different character that wasn't like a main or a like classic character would have made if a more interesting storie.
I love that all of these happened in the seasons after season 3... I guess we can all pretty much agree that the first three seasons were nearly perfect and the rest of the show fell apart RIP
eh the first half of season 3 was honestly really cheap looking and boring. Zelena/wicked witch and frozen/snow queen along with the mini-series "OUAT...in wonderland" kept the show alive. The author crap really annoyed me from then on though,
Here’s something we can agree on..I hope, plz don’t attack me lmao Episodes 1x7 (huntsman story) and 1x17 (Jefferson first episode) were the best episodes in the whole series!
Shekola Carrington exactly, I agree. Season 4 was were it all started to become a bit more bland. Mostley because they put Frozen in there, it was too new and everything felt like cosplay. They didn't create their own version of the classic tale of "the snow queen", they just picked the same characters and backstories from Disney's version. Except for the snow queen herself, almost everything evolving around her was okay. But then it kept going down hill. 😔
Honestly the show should have known, if you're planning on bringing in multiple characters you have to be willing to focus your attention on everyone, than whats the point
I definitely agree that they didnt utilise the characters they already had given us and popped in throw away characters that dont do much or make us really feel anything for them. Seasons 1-3 were great but i think the show really suffered from season 4 onwards.
They did technically answer the question of who was Lily's father: Zelena and Regina having the conversation in the car on the way to Regina's surprise coronation with Mal flying overhead, can be heard saying that Zorro was Lily's father. The actress who played Lily got pregnant and could no longer film, plus Adam and Eddie never could secure the rights to use Zorro on screen.
the thing that always annoyed me about that is "the dragon" character said he had to give up his daughter, it would've made way more sense to make that canon instead of a name drop at the end of the show.
Honestly I am upset that the love story between Grumpy and the fairy was never mentioned again after that one episode early in the series. They had such a cute romance that I really wanted to see develop back in Storybrooke.
Moana in 2014? When it came out in 2016? And wasn't the Gideon backstory ripped off from Angel's Connor? Oh, and Jacinda was the single worst. No personality whatsoever. I would've really liked Henry and Nick/Jack/Hansel more, or Henry/Ivy, but no, we had to go with Blanderella.
Well to be honest Jane Espenson did write for both series and her dialogue was pretty good, but it did seem like they were ripping off of Angel with that one
i think also they missed out with showing the chemistry between emma and regina? not necessarily as a romantic relationship but even as best friends they really should've shown more of them and their chemistry... anyone else agree? :)
For me, I'd say Neal dying, I love Outlaw Queen so I'd say more time with them before he died. (since I do understand the importance of not having her happy ending depending on a relationship), the underuse of Mulan, and the sudden disappearance of character were asked to care about but then somehow never showed up again.
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I feel like wasted opportunity was turning Ruby into a secondary character. She had importance in the first season and then her character didn't matter as much anymore.
Ruby’s storyline being pushed to the side coincided with the actress taking a lead role on another show so it’s hard to say whether who was really the driving force behind those changes.
As I mentioned earlier, I think Ruby and Mulan would've made a great couple. Both are strong, brave women in their own ways, they've been traveling companions for a while, they look great together, they support each other, have chemistry... Yeah, they would've made a way better couple than Ruby and Dorothy.
meggie004 If I remember correctly, Ory took the other role because the writers of OUAT were not utilising Ruby. She’d signed on as a series regular in season two and they’d had plot ideas (I remember a romance between her and Dr. Whale being mentioned). But then suddenly they got the rights to Hook and Neverland so it was a bit of “shiny new toy syndrome”. Unfortunately Ruby’s story was what took the hit.
adelaide yeah I just felt like she had so much more to offer. I would have seen more of her stories.
meggie004 I figured that could be a possible reason why they didn't books on Ruby that much. But I wish she had more stories.
"season 4 was dedicated to frozen. We would have gladly traded it out for other characters like Moana." That would have been impressive considering Moana hadn't even been out in theaters by that time.
Renafly yea
exactly what I was thinking
Same thing that I thought of
😂 true and I really like season 4 but it would have been cool to see Moana in a later season when it was actually out although I don’t know how they would have implemented it into the story
Lmao ya and they even put the year it was put out
It still bugs me there was a Cinderella in season 1 in Storybrooke and then they brought in a completely new one in the last season
MorganAnne143 remember the different realms thing. So there was another version of each character with different races but the same stories.
I was literally thinking that
I hated the new enchanted forest
well that the whole thing with the multiple realms
MorganAnne143 you and me both the last season was basically a failed reprisal of the first season the only good thing that came ov it was the princess and the frog characters
I thought of another wasted opportunity. I think that they wasted the opportunity to make Rumple and Henry's relationship stronger.I would have loved to see more dynamic between the two. I just think that they could have been closer and it would have been nice to see.
so true. I never understand why they had never screen time together.
I feel like the main wasted opportunity was the untold stories. They could have created original fairytale characters and used that for the sequel instead of doing what they did with Henry
Yes, and Henry could have learn magic from him, I mean, I'd have liked that better than Author Arc
YES!!! When Rumple dies in season 7, Henry, his grandson, shows ZERO emotion! Hook seems more torn up about it, AND HE WANTED TO KILL RUMPLE FOR THE LONGEST TIME!!!!!!!!!!
I love that 3000
i'm still pissed about Mulan. they completely ignored her. i was actually expecting her to end up with Merida, at least....
mulan4ever14 me too. Alas it's so disappointing....😤
I shipped her and Ruby. But no they shoehorned in Dorothy instead.
Yeah same here and then they paired ruby with another once off character who came back grown up - Dorothy.
At least mulan/ruby made sense and actual chemistry due to a few eps together
Caroline Fallon i agree with you.
What also drove me nuts was the fact that they established Mulan as gay, had Red and her travel together for months and Red and Dorothy end up together. WTH. They really really did not want to give Mulan a love interest. Red and Dorothy spend one episode together. Even though Red and Mulan hadn't been seen in a while we knew they were traveling together. It should have been Mulan missing and Red rescure her. We didnt need the addition of Dorothy.
I feel that killing Neal off was a waste. Even if he was no longer with Emma, he still was a compelling character on his own right, and to be honest, much more dynamic than a lot that came after.
Honnestly i don't think so... Even tho i still think CaptainSwan is one of the major things that destroyed the show let's be honnest... I'd rather have that than an annoying love triangle between Emma Hook and Neal for the rest of the show..
No, I was thinking about having Neal as a character by himself, not keeping the triangle going, because as a trio they work.
I agree, I would've loved to have seen his relationship with Henry, Rumple and Belle grow tbh.
And also with Killian. Not to mention I wanted to see how he and Emma would work together without the whole 'romance' thing.
Agreed. This whole show wouldn't have been possible without him since it all began with Rumple losing him and dedicating the next 300 years of his life to finding him. Do you know how many of the characters wouldn't have even existed without Rumple? Regina, Charming, Emma, Henry, Belle probably would have died in the ogre wars.
Talking about missed love stories: WHY THEY FORGOT LEROY AND ASTRID?!
Astrid is a nun
@@danielelizondo7627 she wasn't actually a nun
only her storybrooke persona was which means the could have been together and i wish they were but i guess not
@@demiladeadegorusi3961 i wanted them together. But when the curse was broken everyone went back to their "curse job" so maybe that's why leroy and astrid never were a thing
@@danielelizondo7627 What a stupid reason for them not to get together
@@danielelizondo7627 that was the curse, she just a fairy now
The only disappointing things were:
1-Season7 like most of it
2-Dark swan had potential but it wasn't well done
3-neal shouldn't have died
4- king Arthur and Camelot wasn't well done, the underworld was great though
I would have preferred more with Merlin, he was basically the light one and he died so easily
I was kind of annoyed dark swan didnt actually make us hate her too much. All she really did was steal a pick axe and take peoples memories away cos of the hook thing.
I know both of these actors had to leave to work on something else, but I would have loved to have seen more of Graham and Jefferson (but I'm also a HUGE Marvel fan, and I couldn't imagine anyone else playing Bucky)
Muhib we should’ve seen more of the mad hatter
But Neal would have gotten in the way of hook and Emma's relationship. Also, Neal was 24 and Emma was 17 when they met. All Neal did was get her in trouble. He's a bit of an asshole, and didn't have much of a character arc at all.
Graham, August, Jefferson deserved more screen time and character development. Loved their characters
Laurawr _ imagine a Emma Jefferson romance ! Wasted opportunity
Tammy Martinez emma and August too
Tammy Martinez all of them acutally 😂 I mean I love hook but I would have like to see this romance too
Jefferson was one of my most favorites as well. It would have been cool to see him in more episodes/seasons. Same with Peter Pan. I loved his character as well. The actor who played him was great at playing both sides: good (when he became Henry after they switched hearts/minds/bodies) and evil (as Peter Pan)
Laurawr _ I know I loved Jefferson he was reunited with his daughter and then discarded like he was in 4 episodes and that was it and I loved August they could’ve done so much more with him even if they had showed him at Emma and hooks wedding I would’ve been happy with that
UMMMMM HELLOOOO.....the biggest disappointments in my opinion is Ruby/Red Riding Hood who was Snows best friend barely being in the show period. AND Emma’s character NEVER developing, she stayed the same throughout the entire show. No wonder Jennifer Morrison left the show. This show could have gone on as long as shows like Greys Anatomy. If they truly wanted to. But I feel like the producers lost interest and faith in it. So many wasted opportunities. Dude I wanted to see Merida and the four clans face King Arthur and the knights of the round table. If done right that would have been epic and you know she would have killed him herself.
They made Ruby regular at the same time that Belle and she quit to do another show.
I enjoyed the underworld arc but merida not getting to be the one to take out king arthur was just horrible. She just shows up for a cameo in that same episode for basically no reason.
THANK YOU!! Ruby is my absolute favorite character and she had so little screen time!!
@@carlosromero3562 They totally could've done such a cute storyline for Ruby. We could've seen her like break free from her Gran and get a place of her own and we'd get to see more of her style and how she is around her relationships with people she's dating and the townsfolk and she could've had so many storylines that could've gone so far.
I was totally upset that Ruby became a secondary character . She was so like able and had a great story. I was also frustrated that they killed off Neal/Baelfire especially so quickly because I really liked him and I think they could have done more with him. Also malificent and Lilly should have had more screen time.
I always cry at Neal’s death and it is really sad. But I do think it was necessary for the plot and for captain swan to move forward. Looking back on it after re watching the show over 4 times now
And yet the. s has to boosted numbers. Also a plot was left unfinished, the murder of Charming’s father. And according to the rati NV drops, no one will watch a show where the hero marries a murderer. Murderers will just get killed off in a revival.
She got into a new show Chesapeake shores as main lead
ummm, about number 10:
Moana wasn’t out when season 4 was airing so how could they?
Yeah.
Moana still dope
THANKYOUU i was thinking that the whole time
Ikr lmao, that's what I thought too
True
I just posted that lmao
Imagine how much better season 7 would have been if the “love story” was a twist and Henry ended up with drizella and not jucinda
tweekscoffee _ I mean what if violet from Camelot appeared and Henry chose her?
ary i think that would’ve made a good love triangle, it reminds me of emma, neal, and hook. violet (like neal) could’ve been someone that henry loved in the past and maybe still had feelings for, while ella (like hook) could’ve been someone that henry was interested in before violet came back. it would’ve been very entertaining
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REALLY! She had so much damn potential but they wasted it!
Jefferson’s character was certainly a wasted opportunity
So was August/Pinocchio
We add jefferson. ok. Now lets forgeot about him. good job.
@@tammymartinez7488 I forgot about him huh guess spinning did it's job
Ikr! Like ik sebastion Stan probably had his plate full with The Winter Solder, but they could’ve at least put in a filler episode of what happened to Jefferson
Imagine if they brought Jefferson back for season 7, like, at least one episode.
I think they wasted Merlin big time! That dude was dope! The way he did magic was so different and refreshing, and his character was one of the most intriguing that got added to the show after Pan and Zelena. They killed him off way too quickly!
Why couldn't they have introduced Morgana le Fay or Mordred in season five arc?
I was so so irritated with the way they killed him off too. Like he's literally the greatest wizard of ALL TIME and that's how he dies??
That and they killed him off on a technicality using Nimue "inside of another dark one" which was just ridicoulous and silly.
I'm still bitter about his death. Plus, damn was he fine (not the point, but I have eyes ok). He was also such a force of good for Emma - there was something so soothing and calm about him.
@@sassypants7536 Agreed!
Man this list can go on forever. I thought they could have done a lot more with the Land of Untold Stories.
And "the dark realm"!!!
And the dark realm!
Don Quixote and Paul Bunyan were shown in that book found at the end of season 5, yet we just kinda never got anymore of that. This could've easily been in season 7 instead of 2nd rate cinderella family. Along with a lot of other things like city=cathedral=hundback of notre dame story.
I'm forever salty about the Mulan/Aurora/Philip triangle. Not only because it was suddenly dropped but also because most of their story was developed offscreen. They should have gotten a spinoff or at least been heavily focused in a later season.
Same here. Heck Mulan's backstory was barely shown...
Same!! Mulan was awesome, I thought that her and Aurora had some *coughcough* romantic chemistry ...
Mulan I think they had to be careful because it’s Chinese culture. They had to drop it because Sarah Bolger played Aurora left because she got cast in Into The Badlands.
As I stated earlier I am glad that the love triangle wasn't explored. Phillip's kiss saved Aurora from Maleficent's curse, which proved that he was her true love. Also, I honestly believed that the love triangle would've become sloppy and forced just like the one with Jim Gordon, Barbara Keen, and Renee Montoya in season 1 of 'Gotham'. That was one of the many reasons why I gave up on the show right away.
@Whitney Pyant, Jamie Chung left after the third episode of season 3 because she went on to become a series regular in the short-lived series 'Believe'. Sarah Bolger and Julian Morris made a few more guest appearances during that season, but then Morris went on to do shows like 'New Girl' and 'Hand of God'. Bolger made her final appearances in season 4, but then she became very busy with other projects too.
I always kinda imagined Mulan would end with Red, but then Red met Dorothy.
............... What were did dorothy come from?....................... And then they go together for some reason. This isn't twilight with imprinting is it?
@@funtimetoto4389 Red was looking for her pack with Mulan when she stumbled into Oz, where they both met Dorothy. And I din't think it was imprinting, it was more like love at first sight sort of. It kinda came out of no where.
@@joanderson6880 It was a sarcastic kinda joke thing. I was just comparing it to imprinting cuz may i remind you jacob fell in love with bella cuz there was a baby inside her the was destined to become his soul mate. And when he saw her he insantly fell in love.
true
Mulan and Aurora tho 😭😭😭😭
Ivy/Henry and Ruby/Mulan were ships that never sailed but should have :(
I still ship violet x Henry
@@PryMateYt hahah they were a cute first-love couple, I don't know if it would've worked with all the travelling Henry did, after all he was still young when it all started.
Ruby is with Dorothy tho
@@lunablox752 ....... Dorthy was a one off charecter. We saw her ONCE before and putting her in this.
LunaBlox we all know Ruby is with Dorothy which is why the comment says they should have sailed but didn’t. Ruby & Mulan would have been so much better.
1) Season 5 was a mistake (except the 2 episodes that had nothing to do with the main plot)
2) Belle was wasted as a character. She's my fav but she never had a chance to branch outside of her relationship with Rumplestilskin.
Season 5 was the worst season in my opinion (along with 7)
Preach! Season 5 began to be borimg and they never did Belle justice.
They ruined the Rumbelle relationship, anyway.
I loved season 5
Rumple and Baelfire is easily the biggest for me. There are dozens of loose ends that irritate me but none as much as this one. So promising and so forgotten.
Анна Крижевская Forgotten? Bae died, their storyline had a proper conclusion.
SilentSaturn I think what she mean is the fact that Bael died. Bael never had the relationship with his dad and had the proper closure from his relationship with Emma. Or even see his mother. Rumple honestly should have stayed dead when he sacrifice himself to save his family from Peter Pan.
Анна Крижевская but then there were some points when rumple was needed so it wouldn’t have made sense for him to be killed at that point although I’m glad he died in the series finale ever since Belle died rumple had been useless and he died doing the right thing he saved nooks life and let him be with Alice
It would of been interesting to see more of Augest story lines.
YES THEY WASTED AUGUST
WE could of seen more of his story line after he left emma
August should've been the author
I agree
@@leoerikson9161 YESSS they should of done that but I guess they needed Henry to be something of importance.
Okay first off
1. Dark Swan was a major disappointment in my opinion they never let Emma do.anything really dark except the first episode of season 5 when she rips Meridas heart out but nothing came of it
2. The Frozon storyline was probably one of my favorites besides season 1 and season 3.
3. Henry and Ella I never really got into as a couple they were cute but I really liked ivy and Henry better but personality I thought that Alice and Robin was the new snow and charming for season 7. They should of had more screentime
4. Everything after season 4 started to revolve around captainswan which hey I liked them as a couple too but give everybody else some screen and story time I would have loved new characters being added and gladly sacrificed some of the captainswan scenes
Okay rant over lol
i agree 100%. i mean i never got tired of the captain swan stuff but i think they could've incorporated so many more characters and storylines.
Lily and Maleficent: Hell, the whole story arc with Lily and Maleficent was wasted! Lily was a baby stolen from her mother before she hatched because the Charmings were scared that their daughter MIGHT be evil. There could have been a whole redemption arc for the charmings (who we never see apologize to LILY) and a forgiveness arc for Lily as she learned to move past her anger. Or Lily could have been the villain in the final season. She would have a good reason for attacking the Charmings and wouldn't feel forced in at the last moment. This arc and characters had so much potential, but they wasted it!
Ursula: They just gave Ursula Ariel's story and she deserved her own.
Killing Baelfire: Killing Baelfire was the WORST mistake they made in this series. The worst thing is that they had plenty of chances to bring him back, but failed.
This is exactly how I feel about the show in a nutshell. I didn't even bother to finish season 5.
@@arielanderic season 6 is better than 5 in my opinion maybe try it?
I'm glad they mentioned the chemistry between Henry and Ivy (Drizella), I thought they could've been great. I loved Ella (Jacinda) and Lucy, but I definitely agree that the Cinderella story was just a little too safe/boring for the ending of the show.
Imagine how interesting it would've been for a Cinderella story, if Henry had gotten with the step sister.
Totally agree!
liaprodz True tho
Um excuse me I would not like to disagree with u but there was. So many exciting plots in their story and also Henry never liked ivy the daughter of lady tramaine u mean and also Umade so many mistakes in this it’s not funny you should feel silly sorry but right off the bat you r mixing up the names of the people that means you are prabably not a major fan of the show personally me likening this series so much I even pity u right now
Same, and Drizella and Henry had more in common and their relationship would have been way more complexe
Ms. Mojo....
Moana was released 2 YEARS AFTER SEASON 4! THEY COULDN’T HAVE DONE IT ANYWAY WITH THE INTENDED FINAL SEASON BEING FROM 2016-2017 AND EVERYTHING BEING SET!! CHECK FACTS BEFORE CRITICIZING!!!
YESS EXACTLY MY POINT
This
I feel like a wasted opportunity was Ruby/Red/Little Red Riding Hood she could have been a good fighter and a good character but they totally left her personality back in season 2.
I LOVE ONCE
Video: "just look at Sebastian Stan"
Me: "oh honey I am"
Sorry honey but I'm looking at Colin O'Donoghue
They couldn't have added Moana in season 4 because it came in 2016 but season 4 was in 2014
I was saying the same thing
Thank you.
Yep
Me too.
And the fish hook appears in season 7
WM: “just look at Sebastian Stan.”
Me: trust me, I am
Also Hades bruh, wtf, imagine though if he was more like Disney's Hades, he and Zelena would've been REAL soulmates
The Hades storyline pisses me off, they genuinely just wanted to kill off Robin
Thank you! The so-called “Dark Swan” storyline really was disappointing, not to mention, they also could’ve done more with Merlin...
DarkDancer06 they killed all of the black people on this show or have them no backstory at all. They did not have sabine in the final show.
Merlin's death still makes me sad. They could've done so much more with him. He was such a calming moral compass, and really helped to guide Emma towards the light.
Dark swan was a wasted oppurtunitie. It was not so good.
Yes, what would’ve been better would’ve been to have Emma actually become evil with Merlin being the one to actually help stop and save her from the darkness. The Apprentice said that only Merlin could destroy the darkness and yet, they didn’t even have him living up to the title of “the most powerful wizard of all time”. That was so disappointing.
Also, does anybody think that maybe Emma should have become the Dark One after Rumple sacrificed himself in season 3? As a result of that, Neil would not have been killed off, Storybrooke would’ve remained destroyed and they would not have ended up bringing in so many unnecessary characters. Emma could’ve been the main villain for a good while, which could’ve added more to Regina’s character development storyline and they probably could’ve still fitted in Zelena...
Yea the whole Camelot arc as a whole was the lowest point of the show to me. Dark Swan went nowhere and wasn’t even what it was touted as. Merlin was wasted. Would have loved to stretch it out and have Morgan la Fey as a big bad with connection to the dark one and being the black fairy.
well at least someone finally said that ivy and henry had a better connection than henry and jacinda.
1. Deleting so many good scenes with Archie Hopper. He deserved so much more attention
The mad hatter/jefferson should have got more of a story line and also see what happened to him and his daughter Grace.
Robin death also was a bad idea
Blame Hook for that one xD
Yesssssssss
Luckily, he'll be back tonight. Don't know which version tho.
No blame Zelena
Robins death was so so sad
I’m honestly tired of the whole “we lost our memories of who we truly are” plot. I just couldn’t watch anymore after Henry took over as the main protagonist
yeah same. I was exhausted from all the curses. As Snow mentions it became ''rinse and repeat.''
Exactly. It is like the writers didn't know what to write about, they kepts going back to curses
A shame since they really did have some great writers on the show - Jane Espenson was a real standout to me. A combination of the actors personal lives, scheduling conflicts etc definately contributed to the way the story was shaped, but still the writing took a turn for sure.
Henry is sidelined in the 2nd half of season 7, which is much better than the 2nd half
@@sporkperson7313 the second half of season 7 is better than the second half?
I think Mulan did love Phillip but the writers changed their minds. Mulan treated Aurora kinda badly, acted jealous, and was crying when they thought that Phillip had died. She even said something like "I've known Phillip a lot longer than you have!"
Lily’s father is Zorro. Regina mentions it in the last episode, when they drive to her coronation
Okay that was totally out of nowhere, plus that doesn't even make sense
The Brave storyline. Yes the actress who played Merdia did a good performance. Yet her brothers barely had any character development. The Camleot storyline. Ugh. Guverine is still stuck under the sands of avalon curse!
Violet and Henry had great chemistry but alas she was forgotten about...
I loved Violet so cute with Henry
ThePinkDragon me too. They were so cute together! I wished they ended up together.
There’s already a book call Henry & Violet.
Also they rescue Lancelot and the didn't show him reuniting with Guinevere after having an episode dedicated to them!
I agree, Violet and Henry were so sweet!
I ship Ivy with Henry more than in ship Henry and Jucinda
What happened to violet
Faïsel El Katbani i love her accent
Faïsel El Katbani Heyyyy, that’s no reason to judge someone. I didn’t like Jacinda either, but that’s because I thought her character was basic. You shouldn’t judge anyone for something they can’t control, like the way they talk.
... I liked henry and violet 😂
@@undersi597 ikrr i was thinking that the whole season 7
I wish that they didn’t kill Neal so quick :(
I loved Neal as a really interesting character in his own right but it seems most people only saw him as a love interest for Emma that was standing between her and hook. It's such a shame because he had such dynamic relationships with so many characters.
Melanie Cusick exactly. Bae had a lot of potential in his relationship with rumple and Henry. I can’t believe that the dark curse (along with everything that happened so the dark curse could be cast) all of that happened so rumple could be reunited with bae. They really didn’t get closure . It was mostly just Neil being angry at rumple and then Neil dying in the span of less than 2 seasons
I wanted Mulan and Ruby to get together so bad! I was not fond of the Dorothy at all.
Ursula did get her happy ending. Her father gave her singing voice back and they went home.her story was done.
Kirito Swords She was SOOOO underutilized!
I don't like some of the comments that were made in this video
Whatever happened to Nova and grumpy?
I think Amy Acker wasn't able to come back or something.
She's a Fairy, He's a dwarfe... In Storybrooke she's a Nun... There you have their story summed up.
@@rolandbaldwin the actress had time to appear in Good Morning Storybrooke
Thank u
I waited for them to reunite in season 2. Never happened :(. And Nova's not really a nun. Regina just gave her that identity as part of the curse.
I actually loved Rumple coming back and turning physco
But I wish they gave more time for Jefferson
Adult Henry gives me Dan's from Gossip Girl vibes so much
Let's be honest, the show's whole problem is its habit of abandoning subplots and characters without a drop of closure as well as lacking fundamental logic and structure. I still believe we could have ended at Season 3 but no.
What also drove me nuts was the fact that they established Mulan as gay, had Red and her travel together for months and Red and Dorothy end up together. WTH. They really really did not want to give Mulan a love interest. Red and Dorothy spend one episode together. Even though Red and Mulan hadn't been seen in a while we knew they were traveling together. It should have been Mulan missing and Red rescure her. We didnt need the addition of Dorothy.
Xengar I agree! Season 3 episode 11 could have been an ending (although a very bittersweet one) and all OUAT did after that was keep making new problems that no one asked for (ex. Frozen, Merida, Dark Swan, Serum Evil Queen) instead of continuing more interesting plotlines they already had.
Kat Del I agree so much. What would their ship name have been? :D (Ruby and Mulan)
kawaii kitty I always like the sound of “Mulan Rouge” for their ship name
I was going to say "red warrior" but Mulan Rouge is genius
Honestly the worst arcs in the franchise have to be listed as.
3. ALL OF SEASON 7
2. The Frozen Arc
1. Emma being fake edgy as The Dark One
That's total BULLSHIIIT
Season 7 was great compared to previous seasons...
Lmao, no season 7 was absolute shit. After watching that season I will never watch another season of Once Upon A Time again. As of the other 2? You could really tell that the writers just completely ran out of ideas when they introduced the Frozen arc and the totally bullshit Emma is the “dark one” arc.
1. We all knew from the very beginning that Emma would not stay the dark one, like honestly it was predictable that I found it quite boring to watch.
2. Okay, it’s Frozen I don’t even have to say any more. It’s so fucking stupid that they would even introduce the movie into the show like wtf were they thinking?
Really it’s sad they had to drag Once Upon Upon A Time out like this, if they just had maybe 3 seasons I feel like it could have had the potential to be a truly amazing show.
@@alexisbaze The only absolute shit is the points you've made. Like what the hell are you saying? Season 7 was brilliantly made, with alot of character development like Drizella's and Rapunzel's. Not to mention the closure each character had was logical and on point.
1. Emma being dark is of course impossible because that's been established in Seasons 4B. But the storyline about S5A was the mystery of what happened in Camelot and why Emma casted a curse. And the reveal that Hook is a Dark One was awesome and unpredictable.
2. The frozen arc included the Frozen story, however this wasn't the point. The arc was psychological to the fullest. From Emma's Loss of control in her power. To the Snow Queen's mentality of a rejected being, and wanting a family that accepts her.
So either understand what you're watching, or don't give uneducated comments and call them critiques.
fake edgy emma was SO cringe i could barely watch it
Why does everyone always forget about Pocahontas!?
@tick-tack girl I never forget Pocahontas she's my favorite Disney princess
The first time they showed tigerlilly I honestly thought it was pocahontas, then got disappointed.
Because pocahontas was based on a real person and it's not a fairytale
I mean... Disney didn't adapt her character from a fairytale but from history maybe thats why
Well technically all the stories were based on real life people , especially Robin Hood.
also killing Neal off before him and Henry got to have a proper relationship. that was one of the saddest things the show did. and I mean if they’d kept Neal, rumple might have started acting like Henry’s grandfather
Lily's father is Zorro (Don Diego de La Vega) - yeah, that's canon, no joke here. He apparently was so in love with Mal that turned into a dragon for one night so she would accept him. But Mal didn't want to settle down and disappeared and Zorro, well, he finds his family much later.
Another wasted opportunity for a dramatic romance with all the Spanish passion.
To this day I still can't believe how much they destroyed the Dark Swan storyline. It had the best potential and then they crashed it into the ground. I do not understand how Emma can "do an evil act" and then this changes her look (she looks evil) and yet she still continues to be good inside, she just looks evil. Like wtf even is that. I do not believe that that idea came from the same writers that thought up Season 1 and Season 3 (which imo were the best storylines in the show)!
Emma makes mistakes, but she doesn't commit evil acts. Because in S4b it was established that her potential for darkness was given to Lily... That's why the Dark Swan storyline was so logical in that matter. It would have been stupid to retcon what they established in the previous plot.
Well, she did kill Cruella... She just didn't go evil. And she's totally not perfect. However, she's still the only one who can withstand darkness alongside Alice and Anastasia... The Saviour and The Gaurdian. If you know what I mean.
What the hell? Did you even watch S4? It was already established, again, that Emma can't go dark. She doesn't have the potential for darkness. It would have been a stupid idea to make her evil. And no The Dark One plot was the story the writers really wanted to address, and that is why the Underworld story was not thought about nor implemented correctly unlike previous story lines. Lily and Maleficent are just recurring characters their role to the story is limited to what the story needs them to tell. And their story is irrelevant to the plot line the writers were handling, that kind of storytelling is called plot-based(against character-based).
I can say you don't like Captain Swan and that is why you didn't like the arc. Personally, I couldn't care less about ships, I only watch the show for the plot. So I can't sympathise with you not liking it because of CaptainSwan.
It kinda would have been cool if Dark One Swan and Lily had ended up bonding over their shared darkness. Remember Lily has Emma's darkness so she of all people knows how it feels. Maybe they would even plot against the Charmings together because the darkness reminded Emma of all her hardships and turned her bitter again.
Except they would both be accusing the wrong person when it was Isaac Heller who made the Charmings do this, but writing and altering their lives.
“The first half of season 4 was solely dedicated to frozen. We’ll gladly would have traded some of those episodes to see Emma cross paths with Mary Poppins, Christopher Robins or Moana”
Me:...
Me: first of all no, except Moana, but Moana came out in 2016 and the last episode of season 4 of Once Upon A Time was in May 10th of 2015. 2015.
Mate, get your facts straight, don’t criticise on things that are impossible
I started to lose interest when Emma became "The Dark One". Plus you find out in the end of the series finale that Lily's father was Zorro...
Aurora was too wrapped up in Phillip she would have never been with Mulan. I always imagined Mulan and Ruby somehow crossing paths they would have me shook as a couple
Ruby and Mulan do cross paths Mulan goes with Ruby to help her find her pack. And instead of them together we get Red and Dorothy. They had a chance to fix that with Merida, because Mulan trains her but nope.
Although I wanted Mulan and Ruby I wanted Mulan and Merida together more
I will always root for Mulan & Ruby. They could have made a kick-ass power couple traveling through realms going on different adventures which could have turned into a cool spinoff with characters like Merida, Ariel, Anna and maybe even Aladin popping up here and there. I was also never a Dorothy fan.
I liked when Mulan and Belle teamed as two warriors trying to prove themselves -- Mulan with her sword and Belle with her mind. I would have loved to have seen more stories showing their friendship.
There being no payoff to Mulan's feelings in general was a missed opportunity.
They missed out with Aurora.
Then they had a chance with Mulan and Merida, they missed out on that.
Then they had a chance with Mulan and Red Riding Hood.. they missed out on that.. or rather they didn't miss out, they just brought back Dorothy strictly for the reason of making her Red's girlfriend so that they could get it out of the way and say they created an LGBT couple, one that never had to appear again so they could say "we did it" and get it done with.. not because they actually wanted to. It was sickening. Which is why there was literally no time dedicated to it, and Mulan is still put on the backburner with her feelings.
show shouldve ended after season 6. i mean season 7 had a great ending but 6 was more satisfying.
Drizella and Henry had way more Chemistry! Hate to say it, but jacinda was so boring . We never found out who Lily’s father was, sucked since writers said we would. Emma being the dark one was TRASH, because she was never really dark or evil
We actually did, Regina tells Zelena in the series finale. It was Zorro but I agree it shoud've/could've been such a great storyline!
Another thing is the whole Camelot arc, i was greatly disapointed that Arthur became a villain and Merlin was killed of and we never got an answer on what happen’d to the rest of the kingdom including Gwen.
And Robin Hood’s character, he didn’t have a storyline by the time he was killed of.
And i think killing of Neal was a mistake, maybe he and Emma weren’t gonna end up together but he rarely got to spend time with his son.
That what they did with Peter Pan in season 3, they take iconic legendary figures into villains. I known it's meant to be a twist on these classic stories, but seriously what in God's name were these people writing this show were thinking? They just Arthur into an egoistical, self obsessed, misogynist antagonist. Also why couldn't they include Morgan le Fay or Mordred in this show, they would have been better villains instead of Arthur.
How about them never again addressing snows blackened heart and her and charming being able to enter glindas bubble thing that only let the purest of heart to enter???
The purest of hearts isn't a heart with no black dots in it. It just means that someone who keeps trying to act good.
But at the time Regina was also working on on being better and being good and was not allowed to enter.
Regina never even regretted doing anything in her life, not even the bad stuff. She said that when she takes Pan's heart out.
It was because innocent baby Neal was in her at the time
K people always talk about how snow shouldn't be able to enter BUT WHAT ABOUT CHARMING? We see him kill guards and stuff onscreen all the time but it's NEVER MENTIONED! Like, do reginas knights not count as human beings?
I love the show with every thing in me (along with broadway lol) they didn’t need season 7. At all. And Cinderella was already a character. But they added another one. That’s my opinion
Totally agree with Drizella and Henry! The chemistry and the moments were really good between them.
i was so disappointed that Maleficent and Lily ust disappeared, they didn´t even bother to explain where they went...they talked about staying in storybrook for a week or so and BOOM they are gone and never mentioned again. why do great characters alwas disappear? in most cases its to shove in another Zelena episode, i grew into tolerating her but its no annoying that they always squeeze her in every plotline....
uh.... kinda defending the frozen storyline here but that season aired the year after Frozen came out so Moana couldn't really had been an option then... Mary Poppins and Christopher Robin might have been able to show up though.
But I think this show should have introduced some lesser known fairy tales; like Baba Yaga, Rose Red from Snow White and Rose Red, Donkeyskin, Shahrazad, and Bluebeard. Along with other literary characters; such as Count Dracula, Sherlock Holmes, characters from the works of Shakespeare and Charles Dickens. And the gods from Norse Mythology.
@@willlyon7129 I just saw a 60 facts about OUAT that said Graham (huntsman) was suppose to be Sherlock Holmes originally, but the show couldn't get copyright permission. I think maybe that is why other famous tales are missing. It would have been great to have characters from Narnia, or perhaps some Dickens characters like Tim Cratchit grown up or Oliver Twist. Lots of classic tales were left out.
@@willlyon7129 I will say a "land without color" story would've been interesting, but of course they just never went there either.
True if they put a Moana Storyline on the show I would've been furious only b/c Moana came out later and its kinda overhyped
1. Merida
2. Mulan
3. Swan Queen
4. Ruby and her relationship with Kansas which made absolutely no sense
5. Plotholes, especially in S7
6. Rumple story of good and evil is too repetetive and he probably should have died when he sacrificed himself when killing Peter Pan.
7. Maleficent, her daughter and her relationship with Regina + her father
8. Everyone coming back from the dead in general except actors that said goodbye to the show.
I watched the show since the beginning and I have loved it ever since but the ending and some choices A&E made are just disappointing and make no sense. It's just really sad since the original story of Once upon a time is great.
I'm sorry but Kansas is spelled with a K not a c sorry just bothered me and yes numbered 4 it because of twilight imprinting( not confirmed but hey it's the only option we have to deal with) And i agree
@@funtimetoto4389 Oh, sorry, didn't know that. Thanks!
@@MrsLPAmy ur welcome
It would have been fun to see more characters in the land of untold stories. Like a kida and milo from atlantis, or a pocahontas.
But after all, we love the show
Emma as the dark one was pointless
Word.
I loved that arc
I was so exited about it and they just...
It really was
Ikr! Not to mention that totally stupid voice she kept using when she was the Dark One...
I also think it would have been interesting to see more of Regina's past with Daniel; but that's just me! :)
And they made a huge deal in Neverland about having a baby but almost never showed him while Henry was literally becoming a teenager Neal stayed a newborn the whole fricken show until the last episode
This was my all time favorite show until the last season. It made me stop watching it it was so bad
I couldn't even finish it either.
I’m always going to be salty over Ruby x Dorothy becoming cannon when the dynamic between Ruby x Mulan was way more interesting and actually had more back plot. 😒
But they were good friends. that makes their story stronger. Like Regina and Emma.
Why is everyone saying that Mulan is lesbian
Faïsel El Katbani because she is
Faïsel El Katbani because the show clearly implies it, though it doesn't claim it. Mulan wanted to say to Aurora that she was in love with her, but then Aurora told her she is pregnant and she just left.
And yeah, I really don't like Ruby and Dorothy plot. They spent what, two days together? A week? And already true love kiss? Really?
I mean I love Dorothy and Ruby, but I felt like Mulan and Ruby would've been more interesting.
Honestly, everything after season 3. They kept cramming in so many characters--who mostly went no where in the span of a couple episodes--at the expense of forgetting about chracters who had been well-establish in the first couple of seasons.
And I will forever be salty about the fact that the writers could never make up their mind about Rumple. Regina was given a wonderful redemption arc, but noooo let's continue to make Rumple an awful character when the writers have run out of ideas, it's fine to completely ruin the Rumbelle ship on multiple occasions.
I stopped watching after season 3 because it was getting too difficult keeping up with all the storylines
What they did to Rumple and what happened with Rumbelle is what pissed me off the most. I quit after 3 and adding Frozen not too long after it came out was such a cash grab.
SO TRUE! honestly I wish they had dedicated time to other traditional characters during the Frozen half season too, it wasn't necessary to add it since it is not canon they were just playing off the newly popular movie. I agree that the yoyo of character development with Gold was the biggest disappointment in the show. The most disappointing story plot was when Emma became the Dark One to save Gold but he just ended up the Dark One again in the end.
My favourite characters are Henry, August, Hook, Jefferson/mad hatter and Jiminy cricket. Sad didn’t have more time on screen
The entire Dark Swan storyline would have been much better with Neal instead of Hook. Neal had much more reason to hate becoming the Dark One than Hook did.
Thank you. Someone else understands. That's how it is my headcanon at least. Also in my headcanon where Neal lives, Emma is the one that dies and Neal's the one who tries to save her from the underworld. I think that would have been a great way to show growth from those characters from Neal abandoning her in jail to literally going through hell for her. And also nice for everyone else to band together and save the savior for once. Plus in season 6 imagine all the angst we could of gotten to see from Neal being torn between his brother and Emma. Uhh, killing off his character was such a mistake. Oh well at least that's what fanfiction is for.
I also would have loved closure for violet and henry's love story before introducing us to him and cinderella
There is a book about this.
I never liked Henry and Violet. There's was something about Violet that struck me the wrong way.
Renata Padilha I need to read it!
MieKayla Singleton to each their own.
Kristen James no tea, no shade...no hate
Honestly, what I hate the most is how little sense the "Black Fairy" story makes, and how they missed the opportunity to explain all of the fairy lore.
The fairies have been there from the start, and the "Blue Fairy" seem to be a very ancient and important character, yet we know nothing of them, heck, the Black Fairy wasn't even a fairy to begin with.
And that's exactly why the shadiness of The Blue Fairy is one of the amazing aspects of the show.
Dani pollo OH MY GOSH, I agree!
moana wasn’t out at the time of season 4 so that point is invalid
Biggest mistake was not having swanqueen as endgame
TOTALLY AGREE WITH #7
HENRY AND DRIZELLA/IVY SHOULD'VE BEEN THE MAIN LOVE STORY.
She kinda poisoned him to death.
To be honest I always felt that Henry's relationship with Ella was a really safe and boring kind. If they went with the story of him falling for Drizella it wouldn't or even him falling any different character that wasn't like a main or a like classic character would have made if a more interesting storie.
I Would Have Liked To See The Mad Hatter More But They Basically Wrapped Up His Storyline In Season 2
I love that all of these happened in the seasons after season 3... I guess we can all pretty much agree that the first three seasons were nearly perfect and the rest of the show fell apart RIP
@JANANI KANNAN see that is true but I thought it was nice how they ended season 7, especially since that meant Regina finally got a "happy beginning"
eh the first half of season 3 was honestly really cheap looking and boring. Zelena/wicked witch and frozen/snow queen along with the mini-series "OUAT...in wonderland" kept the show alive. The author crap really annoyed me from then on though,
Here’s something we can agree on..I hope, plz don’t attack me lmao
Episodes 1x7 (huntsman story) and 1x17 (Jefferson first episode) were the best episodes in the whole series!
I don’t know if they were the best. But I would’ve liked to explore there characters more and I wish that Graham didn’t die right away
Ivy x Henry was waaaay better tbh😩
Those two never dated he had no feeling for her romantically so get over it like come on !!!😂😑
Carter ojer But the actors had chemistry. That's all we're saying
raw1911 well, but the story doesn't work in favour of the actors. it's the other way around.
I agree, they were better in my opinion.
the entire show went down hill after the Neverland arc imo.
Nah it went downhill after Marian came back
Shekola Carrington exactly, I agree. Season 4 was were it all started to become a bit more bland. Mostley because they put Frozen in there, it was too new and everything felt like cosplay. They didn't create their own version of the classic tale of "the snow queen", they just picked the same characters and backstories from Disney's version. Except for the snow queen herself, almost everything evolving around her was okay. But then it kept going down hill. 😔
Jazz I agree, I loved the snow queen herself, but the whole frozen nonsense was so shoehorned into the show is was insane.
That's the worst arc....
Chloe Marie YES!!
I loved the count of Monte Cristo’s story line and I liked the way he was portrayed by the actor
I hated how Meredith was in a couple of episodes then she was just cast out, I wanted to see more of how she developed
Honestly the show should have known, if you're planning on bringing in multiple characters you have to be willing to focus your attention on everyone, than whats the point
Everything involving the mad hatter from season 1.
I definitely agree that they didnt utilise the characters they already had given us and popped in throw away characters that dont do much or make us really feel anything for them. Seasons 1-3 were great but i think the show really suffered from season 4 onwards.
They did technically answer the question of who was Lily's father: Zelena and Regina having the conversation in the car on the way to Regina's surprise coronation with Mal flying overhead, can be heard saying that Zorro was Lily's father. The actress who played Lily got pregnant and could no longer film, plus Adam and Eddie never could secure the rights to use Zorro on screen.
the thing that always annoyed me about that is "the dragon" character said he had to give up his daughter, it would've made way more sense to make that canon instead of a name drop at the end of the show.
Honestly I am upset that the love story between Grumpy and the fairy was never mentioned again after that one episode early in the series. They had such a cute romance that I really wanted to see develop back in Storybrooke.
Moana in 2014? When it came out in 2016? And wasn't the Gideon backstory ripped off from Angel's Connor?
Oh, and Jacinda was the single worst. No personality whatsoever. I would've really liked Henry and Nick/Jack/Hansel more, or Henry/Ivy, but no, we had to go with Blanderella.
Gideon's story 100% was stolen from Angel's Connor. Lol
THANK YOU
I tried with Jacinda’s character, I really did 😂 Eventually, I just gave up.
I had no idea Gideon's story was a blatant rip off but I'm not even surprised. OUAT writers had no imagination at all.
Well to be honest Jane Espenson did write for both series and her dialogue was pretty good, but it did seem like they were ripping off of Angel with that one
You forgot Regina and Robin.
8:10 Ursula was redeemed and left with her father.
Season 7 is so confusing
I agree season 7 was like honestly pointless
Everything involving the sherif from season 1.
AJ Mainiac yes Graham was one of the most pointless characters i hace ever seen in a show
There's only ten? 🙄
This is a top 10 list. Was that not clear?
i think also they missed out with showing the chemistry between emma and regina? not necessarily as a romantic relationship but even as best friends they really should've shown more of them and their chemistry... anyone else agree? :)
I know it was 2 years ago but I agree
For me, I'd say Neal dying, I love Outlaw Queen so I'd say more time with them before he died. (since I do understand the importance of not having her happy ending depending on a relationship), the underuse of Mulan, and the sudden disappearance of character were asked to care about but then somehow never showed up again.