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@@RealAICCl how so?
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You should know the actors of snow white and charmingy fell in love on Set for Real and married in 2014, they gave 2 sons
@@RealAICCl yeah I was hearing about the established titles bs
Is it cheesy? Yes. Is it often poorly written? Yes. Does it physically make me cringe in some places so bad it hurts? Yes. Does it erase character development on a whim and make its characters do really stupid stuff a lot? Yes. Do I still love every moment of it and have rewatched it multiple times? Also yes. I love it, warts and all.
😂 same
Same!!! I love it!!!
Exactly!
100% the same
This show is so stupid and the cringe is real. But I love it! The more green screens, the better (?
The mental whiplash I got from hearing that Once Upon a Time was an actual Disney product and not just made by another company using Grimm’s Fairy Tale characters is one which I may never recover from.
When they announced frozen would be in it (and not the ice queen) and literally used the outfits of elsa and anna in the writing I had to look it up because I was too suspicious that the mouse had his hands in my (albeit terrible) show. Once I had proof, I was done watching 😅😂 like welp the writing is getting just a bit TOO silly for me
It was apparent from the start. There is no character named Jiminy in Pinocchio, the dwarfs names are copyrighted, and names such as Ariel, Ursula, Aurora, Melifecent and Jasmin are Disney only (that last one even has a name in the original story, Disney just changed it because it was to foreign).
The only non Disney Characters in this are Rumpelstilskin (if we ignor that he is the Beast and Crocodile) and Hansel and Gretel (which I guess the Disney Version is just to unknown to have been used).
As a genuine fan of fairytals I really dislike that, honestly. I grew up with the original stories. If you are looking for a story with a similar premise tho, I suggest picking up the Fables Comics. They are mostly known for the Game adabtation of "The Wolf Among Us".
@@ArnLPs Y'know I should've known that and yet it never clicked back then for 4 seasons 💀
Edit- I remember when the wolf among us game came out back in the day too! Maybe I should re-check that franchise out
@@river3c761 I love Fables and think the fandom is way to small. It's sad how the Wolf among us is all people know about it, and it's a prequel to the original comic.
It's definitely less for kids than OuaT, and I think more inspired by War Movies. If that interests you check it out, but fair warning the first two books are not really representative of the entire comic run. It really only starts in Book 3.
My relationship with OuaT was very hateful, because it made very obvious how little people cared and know about these original stories I grew up with. Only caring for the Disney version. While I always watched these, even as a child, as adaptations. Just one version of this story. Everyone else seems to see the Disney movies as the TRUE Versions, and that's just frustrating.
When they started showing Elsa and Anna and Frozen characters in general, that's when I knew it was owned by Disney and I was like what the fuck is going on. It was so jarring to see Elsa and them anyway simply because their outfits are literally the Disney outfits and not an alternate redesign outfit. Everyone in the show has an alternate outfit and not the actual Disney outfits. In storybrooke and the fantasy world, Snow White, and Aurora, and Mulan, and literally every other princess and prince has alternate redesigned outfits to make up their character and fit the vibe of the show. They don't have the exact outfits made in the movies. So seeing Elsa, Anna, and Kristoff in their Disney outfits is SO freaking weird when seeing them next to Emma and all of them. Even the Evil Queen when she was in storybrooke didn't look that jarring simply because she wasn't wearing her Disney outfit and was wearing an outfit to match the vibe, coloring, and tone of the show
I love how nuts and convoluted the show gets as it progresses through the seasons, to the point that everyone is related to everyone, there’s multiple realities, and multiple timelines, and everyone’s memory has been wiped so many times I am amazed they can still dress and feed themselves, I love it! I’ve watched this show multiple times over, it’s just too entertaining. Modern soap operas for the win!
Totally agree! This is my all time favorite show. I got my brother hooked, my son and now my cousin. I’ve watched this series 5 times now and I keep finding new nuggets each time! Love it❤️
right? it's silly, but I just started loving it more after we were finally done with the Frozen stuff. Emma and Hook saving each other, Dark Emma, all that
I liked this show because as it went on, it started feeling like the closest we would ever get to live action Kingdom Hearts, what with the whole darkness being a tangible thing, a kid who's an outsider to everything coming in and fixing all the stuff like sora does in the KH games,. there was also the fairy tale and later on disney characters whos worlds were all connected and crossing over, the time travel bullshit which became a big thing in KH
The chokehold this show had on my life throughout middle school and even bits of high school was INSANE.
As much as it fell off towards the last seasons, I could never betray and it holds a special place in my heart.
SAMEEE😂😂😂I wrote “OUAT” all over my assignment notebooks and homework!
I was 30 when this show came out and it had a hold on me as well. It was just that good.
The way I was OBSESSED
I was SO into this show back in the day.
Also for all the bad and and stupid stuff the show did, the “Little Red Riding Hood is actually the Wolf” twist actually slaps
Im pretty sure that was already a cliché even back then
I would say it's cool myself, but I know other people have probably used that trope before... like Ever After High!
@@aperson2go497 once upon a time predates ever after high by 2 years
that was the FIRST episode i ever saw and i was like eight. i was hooked until maybe season four or something after that lol
@@leme9909
Damn, I wasn’t so lucky. I watched all the way until the end of season 6, and the show got BAD…
Except the musical episode, that slapped too
Can't believe they didn't mention how wild the family trees get over the full series. Snow White is Henry's grandmother and his step sister whilst Hook is his stepfather and his former step grandfather.
Also I knew it was never going to happen but I still held out hope for a Mulan/Aurora/Philip throuple
A throuple would’ve been amazing! They had so much love and trust between the three of them.
I low key wanted Mulan and Aurora to get together bc that would have been cute tbh
@@slay.interrupted Mulan was straight up gonna confess her love for Aurora until she found out Aurora was pregnant:(
The Queen of Hearts is the mother of the Evil Queen and the Wicked Witch of the West
Don't forget the time Henry's great grandfather, who appeared to be the same age as him, tried to steal his body or something.
My favorite part of this show is when they had Jekyll and Hyde basically be the incel and Chad meme. As a massive Jekyll&Hyde fan I genuinely unironically love their depiction in this show. Dr.Incell and Mr.Chad, 10/10
dr incell and mr chad is the best way to describe them lmfao i wish they had a longer story arc
I was actually really upset by this arc! I’m a huge fan of the original books (Frankenstein, dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, count of monte Cristo, etc) and I felt that they really didn’t utilize them enough!! There were sooo many possibilities they could’ve done with those characters and they just squandered them. :( also not to be *that guy* but I was sooo upset that they took influence from the Frankenstein movie instead of the novel, which really broke the (admittedly flimsy) rule of using book characters. Frankenstein’s creature form the book would’ve made a FANTASTIC villain of the season, especially alongside Hyde! Hell, they could’ve even thrown Dracula into the mix for some variety! Not to mention the phantom of the opera, Dorian gray, the invisible man, so many possibilities!!!!!!!! But I will admit that Jekyll and Hyde from the show were pretty entertaining lol
That's hilarious 😂
The way he reacts to the hair comment when he has it dyed ultra blonde for iZombie 🤣🤣🤣
@@quite_contrary_9956I recommend Penny Dreadful. That show utilized Frankenstein a lot better than OUAT did.
I’m so glad you mentioned the dwarves. My favorite part about this show is the way the dwarves emerge as full grown men out of eggs
imagine someone who hasn't watched ouat and is just reading this comment.. 💀
just like god intended
This show was absolutely wild. They couldn't decide if they wanted to make a Lost-style character study with supernatural mystery elements, a dark urban fantasy twist on classic Disney movies, or a soap opera, so they just did all three things at the same time and the result was a glorious mess.
I loved how pretty much every major character introduced turned out to be related to one of the core characters in some way. Peter Pan? Rumpelstiltskin's dad! The Wicked Witch? Regina's sister! Henry's dad? Rumpelstiltskin's son!
Also loved how there were a handful of actors who were just way too good for the show. Particularly, Robert Carlyle, Giancarlo Esposito, and Sebastian Stan. Sebastian was so good as the Mad Hatter that they planned to give him his own spinoff about Wonderland, but then he got Marvel'd, so they made the spinoff anyway without him and it was kinda bad and got cancelled pretty fast.
Ah that spin off was so dumb I love it
sebastian stan was in this?????!!!!
@@SkiddlyBink He was the Mad Hatter in a few episodes in season 1.
wonderland was kinda great and a mini series. nothing to cancel.
One of my favorite picture sets I've seen on the internet was this show's plot twist/soap opera moments... but with the animated Disney characters saying them, just to drive home how silly it all looks with those characters in mind. Seeing Beast and Wicked Queen asking Ariel for Pandora's box is great out of context.
I think Mr Gold/Rumpelstiltskin/the crocodile/the beast/the fairy godmother is probably one of my favorites characters in any TV show. His stories were the only reason I watched the series as long as I did. He was the only three-dimensional character it had. All 🪄 comes with a price, deary.
He was also the old guy from up lol
He was pretty much the only reason I ever stayed engaged as well, lol.
YESSS
Yes, and he's ridiculously hot too.
Same, though they didn’t do his character Justice in the last seasons. Still, he was one of the only things that kept me watching 😂
Disney missed a huge opportunity to have a Pirates of the Caribbean crossover with Once Upon a Time…would have been epic!
Imagine Killian Jones interacting off of Captain Jack Sparrow
Or Kingdom Hearts.
Omg imagine Captain Hook and Jack Sparrow together 💀 the eyeliner lvl they would be on-
That’s because the creators it would be hard to imagine Jack Sparrow without Johnny Deep.
Are Emma Swann and Elizabeth Swann related then
I've recently watched it for the first time and it was stupid and dumb and campy, but I had so much fun with it! My favorite game to play was "let's see if Rumple is good or evil in this episode", sometimes I got whiplash from how fast all characters changed their entire personality, but it was fun. Except the last season and the Spin-off, let's not talk about them.
The spin-off was good imo. Scarlet Queen was amazing. Cyrus and Alice were good. Idc what anyone says. It was amazing.
But I liked the spin-off more than the original! I think the fact that it was cut short was a benefit cause it was more focused and didn't have the time to become ridiculous. The one thing I didn't like, except for the first cheesy episodes, was the lack if consistence with genie rules : if I remember in the first episode they say you can kill qomeone woth your wish, but in an episode later a wish does kill someone.
@@strawberrypeppermint4185 yeah. I think people didn't like the spin-off cause they never past the first episode of the show, who was by far the worst episode of the series,if not of all the OUAT universe. But the episodes really increased and I grew to really love Will. The ended was great too.
@@nanalove3819 It was better then S5-S7. Although I kind of like Tilly more then Wonderland Alice I enjoyed them both.
The whiplash of Rumple's character is what eventually made me quit (well, that and the entirely bland use of Emma as the Dark One, like come on)
Fun fact: Prince Charming's actor was married to someone else when OUAT started. They ultimately divorced and started a relationship and later married Snow White's actress. Art imitates life. LOL
I think they were already divorced once the show started. But you're right, they did LOL and they're still married 🤙🏾
@Bakuru no, they Josh Dallas was still married to his then-wife. He divorced her in 2011 and got into a relationship with Ginnifer the same year.
I’ve watched this show repeatedly for Regina, Rumplestiltskin, and the Disney cameos. I know it’s a pretty meh show but it’s addictive and comforting to me.
Yea is a gulty pleasure for me I've also seen the show a couple time
Same, I go back to it every couple of years
I want to rewatch the first few seasons now dang. I loved everything up into the Peter Pan arc
@@tk-zay5073 Yeah, Henry’s uncharacteristically dumb in that season.
Too, deary! Through peter pans arc is really good for an actual dark disturbing peter pan adaption.
honestly i absolutely dig the concept of the show. all these fantacy characters living together in a Lord of the Rings style world, but suddenly they're in the real.. less magical but more advanced world. but the execution... certainly left much to be desired
I’ll always have a soft spot for this show because my family used to sit down every week watching this show as it came out, my parents loved it so it was a real bonding moment for us. And it’s really nostalgic remembering how it used to feel to have to wait an entire week to see what would happen next lol
We also used to love trying to guess who was who since it was season 1. I was sooo convinced the huntsman was Robin Hood. And doctor Frankenstein totally threw us for a loop
SAME! My mom loved this show but we stopped watching once Elsa started coming out because we thought it was corny (as if the show wasn’t corny as hell already) 😂
This makes me sad cuz this kind of communal viewing of television and stretching the serialized format to its absolute limit is really no more. It was killed by streaming and the rise of more niche, spread out content.
“What if Captain Hook, the hunch man was sexy. That got me laughing. Also calling rumplestiltskin the joker was on point.
He’s my favorite character ❤️ Robert Carlyle is so good
Rumple is quite literally the Joker with magic and planning skills of Palpatine and yet still had heart honestly probably my favourite character in anything
@@Bored_Barbarian agreed
_"Huntsman"*_
Captain Hook. Mmmm. ❤
the show peaked with its neverland storyline. felt like genuine stakes.
Really+ That is when I lost interest in the show.
Season 4 (Elsa season) was the one I almost stopped because it got too Disney for me. Neverland atleast spin the story around, minewhile they left Frozen as it was
@Lel Nel that's funny because I actually quite enjoyed the Frozen storyline. But it has been a while since I saw it. I think Ice Queen carried it for me
Oh yeah, the amount of character development for Rumpelstiltskin and Bo easily makes the Neverland arc my favorite one in the series. The various twists at the end just kept on making it even better and Pan is such a good antagonist that he can even hold his own against The Dark One himself. Really sucks that they followed this up by killing one character and resetting the other
Pan was easily the best villain the series ever had, and having Rumple sacrifice himself at the end was the perfect conclusion to his arc.
Not gonna lie, seeing Cruella DeVile shooting a pistol at a landing dragon... is something I never would have ever imagined on my own. And I've imagined some bizarre shit.
i've always said they should've just named it once upon a rumplestiltskin cause he is literally the cause for 90% of the stories in this show XD
This show was one of the few serialized dramas that I actually got into for a time until I realized that it did what serialized dramas do and just keep going until they are cancelled instead of working towards an actual ending.
I did really like how they mashed a bunch of different stories at first especially in the earlier seasons when they still had an element of trying to figure out what the twist on the characters story will be.
THIS!!!! for me, i stopped watching it when the plot got way to messy for me, and when Hades came in. Hades isn’t part of a fairytale, he did not look ANY way like he did in the show, and even the way persephone was potrayed and how she looked. it was just way too much for my mythology loving and pjo kid heart
Season 1 was top tier tv for that time. Season 2 was pretty okay. Then it just got worse and the character assassinations began and I swear Emma became a shadow of that badass bounty hunter we knew and everything just went terribly. It turned into a CW show so fast.
@@saltybird i thought season 3 would have been a good end to the show.
@@imjustasconfusedasyou I actually continued watching the show, most just to see if Robin will be brought back and reunited with Regina, but still I continued watching it. And I agree with you so much. As a Mythology lover, I couldn't stand their hades. Hades isn't evil and is not a bad person or a the 'bad guy' in any Mythology story, he is actually written and seen as a good guy/neutral don't drag me into drama person.
Even if their following disney movies, Hercules (as much as I love the movie it is also not actually, thats not even his name!) Hades wasn't really bad guy in that either. He is a god, and one of the big three at that, I don't think the mortal mentality such as Good and Evil, really works with Greek Gods, because if they did Zues is such a worse person. Hell, all the Gods and Goddess (except Hestia) have done evil, dark, 'villains' things.
Thr was actually a petty good ending.
And a really good soft reboot that was not renewed sadly, whenm they has a pretty refreshing mostly new cast. and setting, thats the worst. It should have gon on after the good last season.
I agree that the show was a mixed bag; what kept me watching all through season 6 though was Regina. She has some of the most incredible character arc writing I’ve ever seen in anything. She was incredibly well written and acted. She definitely carried the show.
She definitely carried the show, especially in season 7 with the soft "reboot"
yes. and then they denied her true love by killing Robin, so i gave up on the show
Rumple was the reason I kept on with the show. Just an absolute marvel of a performance from that man, even partially saved the last season for me with his & bell’s epilogue
i think you misspelled gold, sirrah
I watched through season 7 because of Regina. Honestly I think the season finale of season 6 was perfect to be the series finale
One thing I really appreciate about OUAT is how unique it is, how they incorporate all the disney characters crossing paths and working together, *but* would also have twists. S3 is my favourite for this. What they did with pan was so good!! Same with rumplestillkin been the crocodile, beast, etc. Plus I also loved the enemies to lovers troupe with Emma and Hook as well as Regina's character development❤️ season 7 just wasn't it though imo, I honestly think it should've ended at season 6. This show does receive criticism for certain seasons which I get, however imo i think it also deserves alot of credit for the character development and redemption arcs❤️
i remember being OBSESSED with this show as a kid. to the point where my grandma helped me sew a red riding hood costume (i still have the cape somewhere in storage) because ruby was my favorite character.
it's funny now looking back on this show in retrospect and what a mixed bag it was. i still feel nostalgic about it and it's absolutely wild to think about how i was 8 when it first came out (2011 doesn't sound that long ago until you realize it is)
If you want a better version check out the Fables comics.
Funny how you got a Red Riding Hood costume from your GRANNY.
I also dressed up as Ruby for Halloween!
Man this show was a rollercoaster. I went from “I’m so excited to see what they do this time “ to “How insane can it get this week”.
I do wish you dove into just how insane it gets towards the end. I swear this show deals with more time travel, multiverse shenanigans, and alternate timelines than most science fiction shows.
It's so convoluted and I love it for that.
OUAT walked so that Riverdale could run
My mom was absolutely obsessed with this show for the longest time, and I never got the appeal in spite of being a massive Kingdom Hearts fan. Even so, I’m excited to see you talking about it.
It's very flawed but still a good show. I love KH and you kinda have to overlook some weird issues the same way.
Once Upon a Time is the closest we will ever get to a Kingdom Hearts show
I think with kingdom hearts is the main story is still some what separate from the disney worlds. Idk a majority of my fave worlds in kh are either not disney related and if they are its not just the movie with goofy there. Not really sure how to explain it better.
Emma is basically Sora without a Keyblade.
Same with all my friends. I never got it, like sit me down with some shrek and kingdom hearts over this every day. But ill listen to Billiam talk about it for half an hour.
Wicked arc was peak for me. Zelena made the most trouble out of all. Rumple was terrified of Cora and Pan, but only Zelena could put a leash on him and made him really want to get free from the Dagger. She was a perfect foil to Emma being a prodigy and Regina being the unwanted child. Plus, she had the spotlight since everyone wanted to know her.
In neverland, nobody really cared about Pan except Rumple. Their focus were on their relationships and finding Henry. And Cora was more of Snow's nemesis while Zelena got on EVERYBODY's nerves and was almost everybody's nemesis in a way.
the actress also did such a good job imo! I loved watching her and you could really tell she was having fun with it. The slow burn for her redemption was really good too, because they'd tease you and make you think she was getting better so when it finally happened and her and Regina finally had a sisterly bond it was really satisfying to see
"I dont want to be, but I am so cynical about this show." Thats my mood. My wife prohibited me from watching the show with her for the whole first season because I couldnt shut up about how crazy the show was. When Gotham came out, I got it, I saw what she saw and I saw it in myself... and thus I was able to watch this show with my mouth shut. It was a hell of a journey. Didnt make it into the last Henry level.
Also Cruella being pure evil was so on point, loved her!
Especially because of the show's obsession with redeeming characters, this was surprising.
I mean, how can you redeem her?
Twisted made it an open and shut case:
"I only wish to have a coat made out puppies!"
"WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?!"
And this was during a musical number featuring several Disney villains having noble motivations behind their portrayal. Jafar: he's vizier to the corrupt sultan, and the only person keeping Agrabah running while it's on the brink of economic collapse and war. Ursula and Scar: were actually progressive rulers of their respective kingdoms before their regressive siblings usurped the throne. Gaston: wanted to rescue Belle from a relationship he believed to be toxic. Maleficent: only wanted to be included in social events. Captain Hook: only wanted to be a positive male influence to Peter Pan.
Cruella, no, just no.
@@NobodyC13 wait, Scar was in this? They got Lion King characters in this?! Were they humans or still lions?
@@queencleopatra007 No, Lion King characters were not in Once Upon a Time. I'm talking about a musical play called "Twisted" (made by the same people who made A Very Potter Musical) that gives Aladdin the Wicked treatment by turning Jafar into the sympathetic protagonist. In act two, which is the "No Good Deed" moment of the story, Jafar steals back the lamp and could potentially wish for the kingdom's salvation but Aladdin has managed to convince the whole palace that he's a criminal and a sorcerer. So what does Jafar do: stick to his convictions and be branded a villain to history or return the lamp and let the kingdom fall to ruin? And that's when the ghosts of previous Disney Villains appear to share their side of the story.
The whole musical is online if you want to watch it.
I actually really got into the show in the beginning. It was fun story telling and It was fun trying to figure out who was what character and their eventual back story. Peter Pan was a great villan who had lost his mind after never being able to grow up and time having no meaning. Thats such a good idea for pan and would make a great horror series!
Their portrayal of Pan was incredible.
I think pan is even worse, he was already awful before that and him , he is still very hatable before that too. He isnt just gone cray, he is just full embracing it.
I'm on season 2 right now and can't wait for Peter Pan in season 3 which is part of the reason I started this show
@@maldon3659 He returns in S5.
Fun fact: from what I hear Pan was a villain in the OG fairy tale and he’d kiII the lost boys when they became adults. Hook was a lost boy who managed to escape and become an adult and he was only ever trying to save the Lost Boys from Pan. The crocodile was an allegory for death. That’s why it had a clock in it. Hook was an adult now so he was aging and would die soon. That’s why he was so afraid of the crocodile because it represented his death. I’ve never read the original but from those who have this is what I read they said about it.
Billiam! We are so glad to see you again- you put way too much work into your content to lose what you have. We’re here for you!
I'm so glad that there are others who also missed billiam. Hope our boy was OK during this whole fiasco
I always loved how it was never cynical and just pure positivity. Especially in this day and age.
Please let more people do retrospectives of this show this was my childhood/teenage years it was insane and NO ONE talks about it!
For me, such a show would be House of Mouse! That show really helped shaped my love of classic Disney cartoons and no one talks about that!
We NEED unhinged recaps of the series (Mike's Mic style) featuring the weirdest family tree to ever exist without actual incest. I'm doing a rewatch now and i love it more than ever
Actually, it's talked about A LOT on every site other than TH-cam. No idea why.
@@KaishaLouise A youtuber called The Theorizer has a whole series on how crazy and hilarious the family tree is. It's like they wanted every single character related!
th-cam.com/video/ARKpnJF8AW0/w-d-xo.html
Because it’s still pretty mid
I remember me and my sister being into this show a lot as a kid...then we realized literally half the conflicts come from "character A not telling character B something only for them to get mad at them for keeping secrets" and we stopped caring
Just like every Hallmark Christmas movie, where the guy and girl meet, the girl likes the guy, they spend time together, the guy is a total douchebag, the girl dumps him, then the girl forgives him FOR NO REASON, and the movie ends with them back together
So, it should have been written by the CW?
Yes it basically turned into a cheesy soap opera
@@AndreNitroX did…did you NOT think it was a cheesy soap opera?
get luck in life cause that is so all humanity is: keeping secrets and then fighting over them. "i told you i had a roommate i didnt lie" "you didnt tell me he was your husband!" "you said you would be home at 8 where were you tom" "i had to work late" "i called your job and you werent there" etc etc and so on. human "civilization" is nothing but lies
The only thing I remember about this show was Peter Pan... I still have my thirst edits for him and seeing Robbie Kay on tiktok randomly was hilarious.
i was obsessed with this show as a middle schooler, but stopped watching sometime in season 4 with the whole frozen thing. however, i've been rewatching it with my college friends and its SO funny to watch as an adult. the show is legitimately insane and i love that about it
I think the biggest issue with this show is that, like "Lost," it felt the need to ALWAYS have flashbacks. At first, it showed you the new versions of these stories. Ok, fair enough, but why did we need to know that Snow White had a little childhood romance with Hercules? At a point, they could have just dropped the flash backs to focus on some of the absolutely INSANE plots they come up with later down the line
Still can’t believe that somehow even Frozen got involved with this franchise.
The casting was well done for Frozen tho
The casting was amazing. And then they wrote those characters out, never to be seen again (in the show at least).
Honestly though? That season was sort of a better adaption of The Snow Queen than Frozen itself was lol.
it’s because it was so incredibly popular at the time that people were literally wondering when it was going to come up. it was the perfect capitalistic blend of two franchises, i remember people who started watching the show ONLY to see the frozen characters.
Or Brave for that matter.
OUAT was like Disney's attempt at a soap operas and honestly I loved this show despite it's craziness.
You forgot to mention (or maybe I missed it) that Mickey Mouse also made it into the show. He was Merlin's apprentice, he turned into a mouse once.
The Sorcerer’s Apprentice was a poem by Goethe before Walt Disney adapted it
I was one of the die hard OUAT fans. Both me and my ex watched it together and went as far as to theme our wedding after the show and get tattoos inspired by the show. The later season definitely got confusing and I really only watched the last season because I am a series completionist. But I was always into the wild turns and connections and I’m big fan of fairytale core being modernized. Also the evil queen always turned a look in both universes
What kinda annoys me was after the show started getting insane, they did a spin-off called “wonderland”…
I love the show, it got me through three pregnancies, but like… what?!?!?
you still have the tattoo, or did you cover it up? ;D
This show was originally written to be one season and it shows. That first season was great in my opinion. The second and third were still pretty good but the seasons’ quality were like sliding on an incline that progressed into a steep hill. I remember thinking at some point “have the writers even *watched* this show?” The cannons of how the universes worked kept changing and they were clearly struggling to find new ideas that didn’t contradict previously established lore. I will keep those first seasons and some of those characters in my heart for a very long time, but it was like watching a very slow car crash. A beautiful, very slow car crash filled with beloved characters that ended with a happy ending. I cried a lot.
Oh man OUAT had a hold on me, Lana Parilla as Regina/the evil queen is so brilliant and the love story is so sad and Rumplestilskin and Belle's story; oof my Beauty and the Beast feels haha Rumple/Mr. Gold's storyline is one of the best. Lmaoo at it being "public domain avengers" bc accurate.
The story arch that kept me watching every season of this show was
Regina’s.
Her character development and self acceptance was so influential to my childhood and view on femininity. The encompassing themes of selflessness vs selfishness helped me rationalize a lot of my emotions as a young adult.
While this show slowly became a truly unwatchable clusterfuck of Disney clinches.
The heart of the story, that everybody deserves a chance to learn from their past. That our actions in the past don’t have to define us in the present. And that accepting our mistakes is the best cure for our resentment.
Really makes for a beautiful narrative that is rooted in truth.
I love this show and I LOVE The Evil Queen.
Her and Rumple were legit the best characters in the whole show because they had substance. They were three dimensional, they evolved, progressed, relapsed in their bad behaviour; they were actually complex and interesting. The main characters like Snow or Emma or Henry were always "good" and simple and you always knew what they were going to do or how they were gonna act because they were always the same and it felt boring. Regina's and Rumple's arcs felt exciting and interesting and their personalities had so much to offer and their stories so much to teach.
Yes, absolutely. Regina and Emma were the reasons I stuck around through Season 2 (the one season where I wasn't invested enough to really want to keep watching, and really didn't enjoy). She was the reason I kept watching after.... a popular storyline became pretty central and I even began skipping over parts of the show... There were some really, really moments from the rest of the cast, but these leading ladies and the messages their characters carried were the reason I stuck through the thin areas.
I agree, it had some amazing messages at it's core
this show was so fun because you could make fun of it just as much as actually enjoying it. i don’t think anyone took it super seriously, especially at the time, but was just fun to watch.
Fun Fact: did you know that Ginnifer Goodwin, who plays Snow White in OUAT later went on to voice Fawn in the final Tinker Bell film Legend of the NeverBeast and Judy Hopps in Zootopia. Yes, I’m a geek and I’m not ashamed of it.
OUAT was about all the fairytale characters they could possibly do, but Regina was most definitely the heart of the show. To see her character development where she grows into a better person, forgiving herself, and believing that she does in fact deserve to be loved, is so beautiful to watch. I never thought I'd relate to someone so much (especially since she's the evil queen!), but her backstory of being forced to live a life her mother wanted resonated so much with what I had experienced in my own life.
My favourite line from that show is Regina saying " before me your people bathed in rivers and used pinecones for currency". Best line ever
One of the weirdest moments in OUAT was watching Snow White's Evil Queen, daughter of the Queen of Hearts, stress over having to explain to the alternate reality version of her dead boyfriend Robin Hood that he has a child with her sister, the Wicked Witch of the West, after she pretended to be his first wife Maid Marian back from the dead and convinced him to move away to break them up. And he was murdered by the Wicked Witch's boyfriend Hades for completely unrelated reasons because sure, why wouldn't that happen.
The lore was absolutely fucking batshit insane after awhile. In season 7 they reboot into a new universe, but they still go this painstaking effort to connect it all back to the previous lore, spending an entire episode establishing how Captain Hook in this season is actually an alternate timeline version ??? of the character while the one we spent 6 seasons with before is happily married to Emma. Absolutely ridiculous and stupid but also hilarious
I actually really liked the Frankenstein reveal it was a cool way to establish that it's not just real and fantasy reality but there's others which are presumably other genres/ips
We see Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde in Season 6 and they were played rather well. Graham was also originally meant to be Sherlock Holmes, but they didn't think that would connect well with the rest of the show.
"It's not magic...It's science." I vaguely remember that quote but the episode lives rent free in my head.
I sincerely loved this show. It wasn't always "great" but it was always entertaining. And the twist Where Red was the wolf MADE MY DAY!
Red and Dorothy could have worked if they gave it more time but honestly Mulan would have been better.
I think my favorite moment in the show is when one season ends with the gang going outside to see a thing but cuts off right as the open the front door then the next season picks up with them walking outside through that front door and Henry as inexplicably aged a noticeable amount in two seconds.
I loved the show. At least the first few seasons. Robert Carlyle was phenomenal as always
Yes! Best actor/character in the show
watched Ravenous right before I started watching once upon a time and was like..."is that cannibal hands?! it is!!!" robert carlyle is amazing
This show is the definition of camp and those first three seasons still hold up they're so fun, know exactly what they are, and don't lean to heavily on the Disney until Frozen in the fourth season
The show started to have big problems since S3B...despite that,I did like the"Frozen"arc,mostly because Anna,Elsa&Kristoff were all adorable :-3 but yeah...the part of the show that was truly _good_ ended when Emma&Henry left Storybrooke(even if it was already a huge plot hole for Pan to be able to cast the Curse in the 1st place..and I'm sure it wasn't the _only_ plot hole by that point!). The moment Hook went back to Emma and tried to force-kiss her memories out of her everything went downhill and it was only worse and worse after the 2nd Robin Hood came and destroyed his own story falling in love with the Snow White's Queen instead of Maid Marian...who wasn't really Maid Marian in the end,but still...X-PPP #OnceUponaWastedPotential The thing that drives me crazy about this show is that,despite it becoming worse and worse to the point I was *BEGGING* for it to end from one point on, there were _still _*_some_* enjoyable elements in each seasons...even the last one(in that case,Drizella...BTW,HUGE misopportunity not putting HER and Henry together instead of making him go back with Cinderella #2!X-/).
I actually really like Once Upon A Time. I started watching it in 2014 when I was going through cancer treatments so the overall message of having hope helped during that time.
I'm just finishing rewatching this series for probably the 10th time and no matter how insane this show is I absolutely love it
I was absolutely *obsessed* with this show as a teenager. It was like my entire personality for almost 5 years.
I was absolutely obsessed with this show when it came out. Unlike you and most other people, I watched all 7 seasons, and yes they were absolutely insane. You didn't even mention Season 7 at all. That was weird, as there's another fairytale realm with a bunch of other versions of characters. Henry gets with another version of Cinderella, who's evil stepmother turns out to be Rapunzel. She's a terrible mother to Drizella who turns out to be the more evil one, which is a clever twist that I actually liked. Also, Alice from Alice in Wonderland is the other Captain Hook's daughter, who is from the Wish Realm, which is not a real place, or is it? The Evil Queen falls in love with Robin Hood, who then dies and is replaced by his daughter Robin Hood, who then falls in love with Alice. Mulan is also a lesbian in love with Aurora from Sleeping Beauty, which tbf is a way better character here than she was in her own film.
That's not even to mention this show's obsession with redeeming characters - Regina becomes good even as she killed so many people and arguably raped The Huntsman, and ends up being The Good Queen of the United Realms at the end of the show. She becomes like best friends with Emma and Snow later. Rumple flops from good to evil multiple times in the show. Season 7 lets him go to Heaven as his arc in that season is mostly just giving up his immortality to be with Belle, so they can have their happily ever after in Heaven. The Wicked Witch also gets redeemed, and makes up with Regina even though she spent three whole seasons trying to kill her or get revenge on her. That's not even to mention that almost every villain on the show gets a moment of redemption at the end (Cora, Maleficent, Lady Tremaine, Drizella, King Arthur, etc.). When a character wasn't redeemed (Hades, who is one of the most boring characters in the show), it was meant to be a big twist.
Honestly, I love this show and will continue to rewatch it again and again. Even the Frozen arc, which was actually better than most people give it credit for.
i cannot tell if you saying king arthur twice in the redeemed villains list is a typo, if he was redeemed multiple times, or if there was two separate evil king arthurs who both got redeemed. from all i know about this show each option is equally possible
@@authenticlimeflavor432 Oh yeah, that was actually my mistake. Edited to fix that now.
I am so glad I'm not the only one who adores this show even though it wasn't always written very well. Maybe it's because it played such a huge role in my childhood or maybe it's because I had a crush on basically every character, but I keep rewatching.
The Frozen arc was kinda meh, but I'm glad I watched through it, it got more interesting after that was done
Wanna know which Alice do you guys prefer. Alice from OUATIW or S7?
I love rewatching the rumpelstiltskin episodes. He is a great character and so unpredictable.
I remember watching this show every Sunday night when it originally aired. I didn't like the last season when most of the main cast left but I thought the most wild part of the show was finding out that Peter Pan was Rumpelstiltkin's father who also had a son being Henry's father
My only memory of this show was what I heard from a girl in my high school PE class. She would recite whole episodes to me while running laps and I literally could not run away fast enough. I hope she's watching this video.
lmao i was like that girl every tuesday
Maybe I'm still blinded by a childhood crush on Robbie Kay but the Peter Pan arc was incredible
Return of the king. Also, I remember watching the show with my family up until season three. I dropped off around season four when they start throwing in the frozen stuff.
I miss the fairy tale craze of the 2010s. Such a vibe. This and Grimm were so much fun to tune into every week. 👌
The world needs a Stealthy Prequel series!!!!!
honestly Walt Disney hearing all those badass stories and going "but women don't do that!" and rewriting it all is terribly accurate to the actual man lmao
I want a movie where Walt Disney himself is the villain.
On Dropout/Dimension 20 (D&D with people from the old CollegeHumor crew) they're currently doing a fairy tail theme and I'm hoping he shows up as a villain.
I honestly can't get over the Family Guy episode about Disney.
_Walt was a bit of a meanie at the best of times._
If you're wondering what he was like at his worst:
Supremacist mid-century German fanatic with a splash of Chris Brown and a hint of Cosby. ... _'Allegedly.'_
He wouldn't have been any kind of hero in his own stories, that's for sure.
I don’t believe that. He would have been proud to see the newer films where females kick ass.
@@Volvith I honestly don’t believe any of that stuff. He literally made educational and humanitarian films aiding the US in WWII.
this show thrived most on it's incredible actors who carried the entire thing. Rumple was always my favorite purely for how campy he was. he nailed everything, and it drove me nuts how often they'd loop around over and over and over again but him and Belle was the best thing about the entire series and the only reason I watched as long as I did, though I think I dropped off around the same time you did. as fun as it could be, it was just fucking *exhausting* and I hated that they never let the characters just have a kind moment. they'd work so hard to earn just the smallest bit of happiness only for it to be immediately ruined by some new issue. them never letting the good things breathe (as well as the massive amount of homophobia in the production) is what killed it for me.
Can you go into more detail about the homophobia? I know a few people said some problematic things about SwanQueen but that's all I remember
@@coops9597 a little, I don't remember much detail, but basically it was stuff like the writers' obvious q*eerbaiting, which was even more intense than in other shows of the time like Rizzoli and Isles who was notorious itself for it, as well as them subtly calling lesbians/lesbian fans delusional (essentially, that it was so laughable that they'd make Regina/Emma a thing that the fans wanting to see it become canon must be delusional for thinking so), Snow White's actress calling lesbianism porn (basically someone asked if Regina/Emma became a thing, and she gave some flippant response about them not making "Once Upon A Time In My Pants" aka, lesbianism is inherently adult/pornographic and has no place in ouat) and when the ship got especially big, they started actively undoing all their character and relationsip growth to make Regina and Emma hate each other in order to "dissuade" shippers, as well as forcing men into their lives (the Emma/Hook angle felt especially forced imo) rather suddenly, and then a while later gave everyone a single ep lesbian romance that's never shown again so they could say "see? we gave you dykes some crumbs, stop complaining now", and when we did continue to complain bc that was bullshit and they knew it, they used it as proof that we just can't be satisfied and therefor media shouldn't even bother trying to appease us in the first place, because we cannot be made happy with anything and just want to complain and attack.
all in all, it was just very subtle but also very obvious homophobia in how they spoke to and treated us.
SwanQueen shippers being delusional about the legitimacy of their ship as always...there's absolutely nothing wrong with shipping the two characters, and some of the cast did make questionable comments about the ship, but the claim that the narrative canonically supported the ship until the writers decided to sabotage it by "forcing in" male love interests is just bananas. The show was constantly retracting character growth for the sake of conflict, it was not an issue specific to Emma and Regina's dynamic. The Hook/Emma slow-burn was arguably one of the objectively better written romances of the show (compared to the other main canon ships, like Snow/Charming which was static and Rumple/Belle which constantly suffered from the aforementioned retracted character growth), so the idea that it was an awkwardly forced last-minute attempt to foil SwanQueen shippers is weird. (I concede that Robin/Regina did feel a bit like an awkward afterthought tho).
Again, nothing wrong with shipping it. The fandom was full of non-canon serious and crack ships. But SwanQueen fans were NOTORIOUS in the fandom for convincing themselves that the ship was "real" and then getting mad when it inevitably didn't happen. There was nothing in the writing that suggested that the two would ever be romantic (and tbh a lot of it, esp during season 1, seemed like a manifestation of that weird fandom belief that two characters hating each other are signs that they're in love). The writers thought that SwanQueen shippers were delusional for asking if it'd be canon because nothing in their writing suggested it would be.
@@Shadeadder no one said the writers intended them to be together, the sentiment implied is queer baiting. You wrote a whole lot to say nothing relevant
@@Shadeadder you've misunderstood me. I didn't say swanqueen was legit and canon until they suddenly changed their mind and destroyed it. I've never believed that ether.
what it was, was another situation much like naruto, where a homophobic/heterocentric writer, for whom homosexuality doesn't even ever cross their mind, accidentally writes an incredibly homoerotic relationship between two same-sex main characters (often as a core part of ether the characters' stories or as the show's core plot), and when fans notice and bring it to their attention, they will suddenly pivot hard to "fix" their mistake, take a hard left from the plot they intended, fuck up the relationship they created to discourage this "misunderstanding" of their intended narrative, and shoehorn in a hetero romance very quickly and unnaturally to reassert the character's intended heterosexuality. you can even kinda see this in the new Zelda game with Sidon and Link. although their result is decidedly far more broke back mountain than I think even they intended.
Emma/Hook and Regina/Robin were always forced and unnatural, even to those who didn't ship swanqueen. I myself was never even a big swanqueen shipper, my attention was entirely on Rumpbelle. having grown up on shows like naruto where this happened a lot, I never let myself get invested because I knew better. I'd seen it play out time and time again, and knew it just wasn't worth it. and even if they did do it, it'd be just as much a mess as every other relationship the show had at BEST, and more likely even more of a mess because these two straight men wouldn't know how to write a lesbian relationship any kind of realistically.
but the forced feeling this had was noticed by the entire fandom. even those who loved Emma/Hook or Regina/Robin and were happy it was canon, were still grumpy about how badly it was done. some even went so far as to be mad at swanqueen shippers for "forcing [the writer's] hand" and not letting it happen naturally as intended. at least until it got better, once they allowed themselves time to breathe and flesh it out, but the timing of their statement and the introduction/destruction of the relationships and how it was handled in the narrative is undeniable. it was obvious then and it's obvious now.
and no, they said fans were delusional for even asking, because it should have been obvious to fans that the writers were homophobic and would never do that with their main characters. the idea to them was so preposterous that it made hopeful gay fans "delusional" to even think it possible that they would make main characters gay regardless of which characters or what evidence there could have been for it. while you could have made that argument at the time, every subsequent action they made proved otherwise. they barely veiled their homophobia, only just enough to retain a semblance of plausible deniability, but it was obvious. and, unlike now with shows like Avatar Korra paving the way for it, they would have been pioneers of gay media to do that, and it is beyond obvious they would never want to be that.
and the fact that this is the one thing you can desperately hang onto, in a list of other horrible and hateful things they very clearly did, says everything.
were many swanqueen fans a little over zealous and fanatic? absolutely. but there is never an excuse to call gay people delusional, ever, but especially over something as silly as a TV show ship. they knew better and so do you.
When I was a little kid my mom and me used to watch this show all the time, we watched it especially when she had cancer. I love this show so much and am currently rewatching it and laughing so hard at some scenes and having to pause it due to how much I cringe, but I love it, and will never stop loving it.
As a OUAT fan, I would agree with Billiam that the show was a mixed bag. It wasn’t perfect but to me it was decent.
Me and my sister watched this show (through season 6) together. An absolutely insane show I love.
Yeah take it from me who watched season 7, don't.
@@legionairesunny5507 Nobin and Alice with her father Nook were the only good things about that season. Tangled+Cinderella could have been good.
truly the yassification of rumplestilkskin is probably one of the funniest moves in tv history. kind of iconic
My favorite television show ever made! It is an amazing piece of work! I have re-watched it so many times because I just can't get enough of the masterpiece that it is. I miss it terribly!
This show was crazy, but I love that it was the first Disney property to use the trope of True Loves Kiss in a familiar way and between two women instead of a just between a straight couple.
Which is carried by descendants especially with the works every time line
Oddly enough, I remember that scene being the very first time I saw a same-sex kiss on TV
That was like the only thing they respected about the Oz-Books. While they ignore so much, I respect they at least kept Dorothy gay. Supernatural did that too. I love this intrepretation getting popular enough that even a TV show like OUAT uses that.
Me too. I’d stopped watching by then, but I watched THAT episode for sure. It meant a lot to me since that was around the time I came out.
I think what i appreciate about OUAT is that it's almost ware of how silly and crazy it is and just owns it and doesn't apologise for being itself.It's a shame that season 8 was ultimately canned and the show ended with a lot of stories being left up in the air, but overall the show i think is fantastic, even though the writing wasn't always the best.
Hi i agree with you and I think you might have meant Season 7.
•Season 7 was a “soft” reboot with only Regina, Rumple, Captain Hook and adult Henry being main characters and the original characters having cameos.
Definitely my guilty pleasure show. Will always love it.
I absolutely loved how insane this show was.
11/10 Escapism 👌
I am surprised someone doing a video on OUAT. This is one of my favorite shows
I'm so happy it's Billiam doing it!!
Same! It's bonkers, and I love it lol
It is Disney's Riverdale
I know I think Palpatine says it best "a surprise to be sure but a welcome one"
Yes for me too, Once Upon A Time is such a campy and fun chaotic show. I love the concept/storyline!
•Regina and Rumple were some of the characters that carried throughout the whole series.
Once Upon a Time reminds me of how much I love crossovers, and how they don’t have to be exactly the same.
Had to come and comment how happy I am to see your channel back up and in your hands again!!!
This video unlocked so many hidden memories, I was obsessed with the show as it was coming out but completely forgot most of it outside of the Peter Pan plot
I woke up today thinking..."Huh haven't heard of Once Upon a Time in a while I wonder if there is a retrospective video of it" and here Billiam is doing what he does best
It was honestly a pretty good middle-to-high quality production, all things considered. I do remember the start being pretty shaky because they milked the "oh shit, it's all real!" twist a little too long, and it was definitely meant to end in season 6 rather than be drawn out to season 7. But overall, it's probably one of the most consistent and well written "darker realism" takes on fairy tales that we've seen aside from the Fabled comic series. Which, if I remember right, Once Upon A Time was actually supposed to be an adaptation of.
this show was the very definition of a "guilty pleasure" lol
Rewatching and commenting to get momentum back up after the hack
My friend watched all of this show live and kept a family tree and chart of the plot and that was how i kept up w/ it. it was madness beyond belief.
I loved OUAT when I was in middle school, and its first three seasons (and the spinoff OUAT in Wonedrland) still have a special place in my heart. I really think the show starting going downhill in season four when the introduced the Frozen plot line, because thats when the show just started relying on Disney properties instead of retelling old fairy tales.
I think in my opinion the Frozen season could have had a old fairy tale retelling if they did Snow Queen better tbh
Oh, I loved OUAT in Wonderland so hard. 😂 I used to be really chronically ill, and this show was a way to escape and sort of… believe in magic and that maybe one day my curse would break too, and I’d find my prince, and life would be wonderful. Took 18 years, but it did actually happen. I’m glad OUAT helped me make it through. 😊
I been a ONCER since season 2 I fell in love with this sho so much. When I started college I believe when Elsa came in to the show. I was watching the show and one of the common rooms. I mean my first long time friend in university.We would watch ever Sunday night. And spend like another hour theories and what are favorite part of episode was. We had different people join us now and then though out the run of the show but we would be us until the show ultimately came to end.
I think one of are big things we love was the Ships you can make a whole episode on the shipping wars alone. The Swan Queen(my ship), Captain Swan (my friend ship) group both hating each other throats every episode. And others group just trying to survive the craziness of this show and fandom like Rumbelle or OutlawQueen. Thought it was crazy online me and my friend love watching together.
The way we discussed it in entirety was this show was a rollercoaster and we were both in it for the ride and thought the show writing could suck some of the of the time (how the did OutlawQueen and Rumbelle dirty or how the reduce Emma Bad assness as the show went on) there was a lot of good writing through out the shows we could get behind(Regina character ark, Regina being seen as a good mother to Henry, the new worlds that get introduced, the crazy ark on SnowCharming, so much more) and we enjoyed and hated it together.
I just want to say thanks for making this video. It meant so much to me and I love that you brought it back up and I hope people do give the show a try so thank you!
I really enjoyed OUAT when it was on TV; I love a good twist on classic fairy tales, and I thought some of the connections the show made between various characters were fun and sometimes really clever. Like the reveal of Rumple and Peter Pan? Loved it, I also loved Regina/Evil Queen's entire story arc; and I like the idea that all the fairytales we've heard of take place in their own realm/dimension. Like all the stories we know that take place in a forest, take place in a single Enchanted forest, making it its own realm among all the different realms that the stories come from.
I'm actually disappointed that this is only 24 minutes long. The LOST videos spoiled me for deep dives 😂
i was wondering if you would ever do this lmao. every time you talk about something in lost, all i can think about is "they did this in once upon a time also". that show is literally insane and i love it so much. and i agree, the one off storylines are really good, i love the hansel and gretel one.
Everytime I see this show, I have dozens of new ideas for a novel. Cause they manage to have a lot of good and even excellent ideas, but they manage to execute them the worst way possible everytime. It is insane but also very inspiring, when you see all the way it could have been done better, and you want to do it in your own novel.
Sameeee😂😂😂
I'm so glad you got your channel back! 🥰
SO SOME META INFO ABOUT THE SHOW: I live in British Columbia, Canada, where a majority of the real world locations in the series was filmed, with the town you mentioned playing Storybrooke being a slightly heritage town called Steveston that's kinda popped off since. Extremely wild to watch this series as an adult and recognizing EVERY location
This led Once Upon A Time to be a bit bigger of a deal here, giving it relevance after season 3 where things started getting CRAZY, where I would bet a majority of the American audience dropped the show. There was a day when I was in college where they just happened to be filming and I accidentally met Lucy and didn't know it until a group of girls explained it to me after the fact.
I don't have strong feelings on UOAT other than hating Disney and having a BLAST plowing through the wiki and just not computing what the hell is happening. So this video is extremely enjoyable, great editing, the memes, made me feel a twinge of anger, which means they did their job.
Also Mulan and Aurora should have gotten together
EDIT: IVE NEVER HEARD THIS 'LOST' META HOLY CRAP
Oh yeah, at the end OUAT ends up being on the same universe as Lost and even crazier; TRON
Mulan and Aurora were my OTP back in the day 😭 the showrunners would’ve never done it so early in the show’s run, but if they had gotten together, that would’ve been so cool. Their enemies-to-allies storyline was so good.
Would love to see a deeper dive into this show, exploring individual narratives and plot lines passed the first season or two cause I remember it really got crazy
11:56 he’s actually everywhere. He didn’t die, he’s just sneakin around
I gotta admit, the concept of Red Riding Hood being the wolf sounds pretty cool
This show was sooooo good. The seasons had their highs and their lows but it was a great little show to watch on ABC...then season 7 happened
Season 7 is underrated. If it was marketed as a spin-off and not another season of the show I think it would've gone down better.
@@patrickb125 Dude it was almost a full fledged copy and paste of the first season except only a few of the OG actors came back as the mains and they tried to trick us with different potentially good twist but it ended up being a disappointment. I watched every episode and I just couldn't enjoy it as much as I tried to.
@@Wonderlandhype I don't think it takes as much from the first season as others say. Older Henry and Ella aren't great, but Regina & Rumple's arcs, plus Wish Hook, Alice and the twist on the Cinderella story are really good imo. Again, if it was marketed as a spin-off I think it would've gone down better. I agree it was pretty stupid to continue the show after most of the main cast left but it really doesn't feel like another season.
@@patrickb125 I guess but if I had the choice to go back in time. I would've never spent 20 weeks on this season. I even would've watched Once Upon a Time in Wonderland if it continued on.
Me and my family used to watch this show all the time. We dropped it in the middle of season 6, it got too ridiculous. I’m so happy you’re covering this show
I'm so glad your channel is back!