like fr tho for someone who been listening to bts for 10 years...I actually understand why he saying this..but yeah we grew up knowing that is how jimin sound...I see alot of vocal coach and producer said that how jimin sounds and that's how jimin vocal style was made kinda sooth me down...I'm not mad at him I knew bts sometimes do use auto tuned but jimin vocal itself sound like autotuned that's why when they used autotuned on jimin ppl thought that jimin voices really heavily pick up auto tuned...this remind me of that one Vietnamese guy who sings in his ig acc without anything like mic... and what crazy abt it he sounds exactly like he put auto tune on him while infact he didn't do anything or use anything😀
@@rosepedal5466 second this. sick & tired of people saying his voice was autotuned. He should try listening to Jimin singing acapella to know that he sounds the same.
there's a thing called collective trauma which is a psychological reaction to a traumatic (recurring) event that affects an entire community being not familiar with bts and army history and path you wouldn't know that there are a few pain points, so you just danced on one of them lol we don't have them just because we are sensitive or worshiping them, but because there were years of oppression and hatred that both bts and army endured while trying to cheer each other up. if you think you know what kind of hatred a public persona gets, double that. I'm not joking, that's how it was. they are korean "boyband" with an underdog story, they've always been an easy target for hate attacks because there are so many aspects where you can put a stereotype on them when they are actually non of it. and then fans get the same level of hate just for liking them and trying to stand their ground for bts and themselves maybe you didn't mean exactly what you said or you are ready to change your opinion about some words, I can't exactly know this apart from your pinned comment, but what is in your video is what it is, and seeing as you position yourself as a music professional, for us it means you hold authority in the people's eyes and thus responsibility because there will be people who will trust you alone more than all of us. we know by countless experiences that our opinion and knowledge are not taken seriously. so even if you ment other things, what people unfamiliar with bts or professional language might take away from your video is that they lip sync, auto tune and don't sing live in the most base and common understanding of it, that leads to such conclusions as "fake and untalented". even your thumb nail suggests that there's some tea spilled in your video and it will attract people who will take away only what they want to hear because you set them up for that. and for armys that thumbnail triggered them even before they saw the reaction itself, I promise you. however harmless you ment it, there are too many accasions when it wasn't, so you are bound to get a defensive reaction. that's actually probably my biggest problem with this video lol. in the end of the day your opinion is your opinion and I get it that you want to be honest. it's just as much as you know about music, you still don't know much about bts. and you keep watching them to learn more so thank you I hope we can understand each other I'm glad you enjoyed the performance and lyrics, see you next time 👋
This is the best, thank you. By someone else’s request, I changed the thumbnail. I didn’t realize it was as click-bait as it ended up being-I meant it to be about the filming, not the audio, and it set everyone off. That was a major mistake that I’ll regret for a long time. I understand collective trauma. I have some trauma of my own, and I’ve also been into things that nobody else liked, that made people make fun of me. The thing is: every single one of my videos is meant to be a celebration of music. Sometimes a song isn’t for me, but I always take the time to point out what makes it rock. Being so genuinely interested in music, then being told I’m disingenuous and fake and a troll, etc… That really hurts. I worked hard to learn what I know and I want to share that knowledge. I wish that I could take my journey into loving this group without accidentally triggering people’s collective trauma, but apparently I’m not able to, because each new BTS reaction seems to set people off. 😞
@@MidnightNotion i personally don't think you are disingenuous, fake or troll, you really seemed to enjoy the time and music. i am glad that you didn't disregard the lyrics, even if it's not your focus, which is fine, my heart is calm because the meaning of their music was appreciated :) i'd say no one loves to be called or imagined inauthentic. just like you don't want your viewers to think of you as a hater inside because you are not and it saddens you, armys are affected when it's implied in some way that bts are inauthentic in their performances or other public occasions, because there's a stong connection with them built on honesty and trust in each other. i'd call it one of the most painful spots, since bts come from kpop industry, all its flaws are looming over them in the mouths of media and hateful people, even though bts succeeded because they were everything that kpop wasn't. being called inauthentic, fabricated, manufactured etc etc etc is something that caused a lot of hurt to them too, first in Korea, then in US it was all the same all over again. i am sorry it all happened like that with your reactions i don't know if you would consider a non music reaction? getting to know bts better, knowing where they come from and what they've been through might give more things to connect with the audience, but i'm not sure documentary type-like videos is what you're after on your channel. but if it is, for a general introduction to the group it's This is BTS Introduction to BTS by xCeleste, for their hardships briefly it's BTS HARDSHIPS 2013-2021 by xCeleste, for details on every member it's A Guide to BTS Members: The Bangtan 7 by Tailor Mari, and for detailed dive into their path since 2013 it's The Rise Of Bangtan episodes. just in case whatever your choice is, i will be looking forward to your reactions, hoping the bumps on the road won't discourage you from discovering bts' music with or without us
@@MidnightNotion about the thumb nail yeah haha this are the kind of statements that we see often and behind it hides hatred masked as an "opinion". honestly when i saw it in my feed today's morning i sighed deeply and thought "not this again" 😄 couple of hours later i decided to watch it anyway to see for myself what's going on and i don't regret it. you enjoyed them, you was excited, you want to know more - go for it, not for everyone else, but for yourself
I don't follow BTS myself but why are you arguing with the band's fans? Usually the fans know these things. Yes you can see in ears being used which theoretically wouldn't be required if they were lip syncing for the video. What does BTS say about the shoot?
I’m not arguing. I’m sharing industry knowledge. I didn’t say they were lip syncing, I said it wasn’t live. That’s two different things. They probably performed each song multiple times, then edited it together in the best combo possible. That means “not in one take,” i.e., not live.
@@MidnightNotion Other than the fact that they weren't singing at the same time as we were watching them, (i.e. it was prerecorded) it was "live"( as in they were not lip syncing, and it was a one-time go). If it weren't a "live" performance of theirs' they wouldn't tell us so. Yes, I know that might sound corny to you, but the truth remains that THAT's the level of trust BTS and ARMY share. I suppose it's difficult for you to comprehend, given the Western pop music scene (particularly, American pop music scene) but that's what it is. I hope you keep your mind open and try to understand where the fans are coming from. It's been a tough battle fighting for the last 9 years along with BTS against both domestic and foreign forces (big companies, media controlled by them, prejudices of Korean people themselves against "idols", resistance to BTS in the West/America due to inferiority complex and insecurity, xenophobia) and after defeating all these, when you say they are lip syncing (you did say that) on a video they have clearly stated to be "live", the fans' reaction is understandable. I personally think most of the people here have been quite decent in expressing their disagreement with you. I hope my comment is not labelled as "toxic". I didn't intend to be anything near toxic here. Hope you continue reacting to BTS. For me, personally, it has been a privilege knowing BTS. I hope it can be yours too!
@@MidnightNotion My dude, check out a bit more from them and you'll understand why ARMYs feel the way they do in regards to their LIVE performances. You're new so it's totally understandable. They always Livestream with ARMYs to engage further so if you check out one of JK's, he'd do mini concerts for us and all you'll hear is his beautiful vocals coming through. They spoil us with so much contents and what you've just watched is barely scratching the surface of who they are as Artists and individuals. They go beyond music and that's an understatement. Welcome. #ARMYsince2014 💜
@@MidnightNotionlive as in live vocals… no one is saying it was recorded in one go. We’re simply saying that they ARE singing live and there is no lip syncing going on
It's okay to not break down the lyrics. Just understand what they are saying. The drummer in Yet To Come was actually Anderson Paak, from Silk Sonic. He's good friends with BTS. Also, he has a collaboration on RM's new solo album. It's a bop, called Still Life. And that is Jimin's voice, not autotune. You will see when you get to know his vocals more. He has a very unique voice. This was a performance for FESTA, the celebration of their yearly anniversary. And they talked about their Proof album release. BTS does dance POP by the way.
It's pretty obvious that they are rapping and singing live. You can see all of the wires for their equipment at the back. Just because they are neat, doesn't mean it isn't plugged in. They always use wireless mics.
while i do understand what you mean about pitch correction, I also just don't think you know what their raw voices sound like yet to be as condescending as you come of in the video even if it's not your intention. Jimin has a naturally high voice with a vocal fry and a tendency to stylistically drop notes at the end of a line, compared to jungkook for example who is more likely to hold them; they are very different singers with very different voices. despite what some fans believe bts' team does correct some content in post depending on what/where the video is being broadcasted and the people that do this sometimes do them a disservice because they don't sound bad live. Fans that have been to their actual concerts and shows can attest to that so I believe that is why we can get defensive.
It seems to be very important to you that this is edited... you take every chance to point out anything that could prove it. If that's what you want so bad, then ok?? But that is actually Jimin's voice. Go ahead and check it out.
@@MidnightNotion not to be rude but what are we learning ?what are you trying to imply specifically pointing out production techniques that could hint towards it being something it isn’t. I don’t think you’ve gathered up enough knowledge on the group to make objective comments on performance to say the least just a little hopefully constructive criticism ;) Glad you enjoyed the video tho I anticipate future reactions
@@MidnightNotion No one will learn anything from you with the way you react to their videos. I'm glad Army are giving the feedback you deserve. I'll even advise you to look for small koop groups and react to them because BTS is wayyy out of your league. As the "video productions specialist" you claim to be,your lame narratives were NOT backed up with facts. We have so manyyy producers,videographers,editors,vocal coaches...specialists in all fields who react to BTS and none of them have been as offputting as you and your reactions. From the "autotune" rubbish you spewed, claiming they were scripted and were reading a teleprompter,infact all your narratives really exposed your idiocy. I advise you to watch Jungkook who is their Main Vocalist in this video "Jungkook doesn't need auto tune" by Ida.S Also watch some videos about Jimin before you talk crap about BTS and their vocals or whether they use auto tune and don't sing Live. Anyways,you just spared me from wasting my time on your channel trying to watch your cringy personality and lame reactions. Au revoir.!
We’re learning that you don’t have to do something in one take-you can redo the song a couple times and edit it into something special. There’s nothing wrong with that, because literally everyone does it. By showing that even the best (BTS) does these things, we can be inspired to do it ourselves. Not in my video, but one thing I noticed while editing: remember that track around the performers? I mentioned there was a camera on it that goes around them. At one point in the video, we are seeing footage from that track, and we can tell because of the angle it’s turning. The NEXT edit is to another angle from the same track, which means the song was filmed at least twice. That’s how I know they did multiple takes. It’s not exposing them as false, it’s reminding people that these amazing productions take real hard work! We should all aspire to be so perfectionistic about our presentations. It’s incredible.
@@MidnightNotion I appreciate the commentary but be sure to express that in your video that part was unclear army’s have no problem listening to you pause and talk extensively about their performances or music however before you can dissect the art you have to understand the artists and their story. Nuance is everything, again tho I anticipate future reactions and glad you enjoyed this one 🙏🏾
they don't lip sync....even when 1 member missing, they didn't add anything and they never replace anyone, suga sometimes use autotunes, but they practice multiple times before show, and they sing live and record the video, and do double takes or 3 takes or 4 takes till it's perfect...
they do sometimes lipsync but nothing wrong about it! a lot of groups do it specially those that also dance, but in this 7 years that i have been following them i havent seen a single live where they fully lipsync, they usually only lipsync chorus or parts where they have heavy choreography like in idol or ON, but still, is amazing to see that even being kpop idols, in a industry where almost everyone fully lipsyncs, you can still hear their real voices live!!
@@conivnce They dont lipsync those parts. The backtrack is simply louder. But they dont lipsync. Check out serendipity, Jimin simply doesnt sing these parts where choreo is super heavy, they are not trying to fool anyone...
@@conivnce yo using backing track is quite different to lip sync. Backing track is played on the back with lower volume. Look(or actually listen) at 16:07 mark of Bts 2020 MMA video just after the dance break of dynamite Jimin missed first line 🤣 if that was lip sync it should sound like rest of the song.
I HIGHLY recommend watching an intro to them...there's one by Taylor called A guide to BTS members: Bangtan 7 that's very thorough and updated for this year. You'll quickly see that they are true artists, genius lyricists, philanthropists, advocates, and not merely what you see. I think you'll better understand their music once you understand who they are as people. Also, they always sing live, even while dancing super hard. They suck at lip syncing and can't even do it... it's actually hilarious. They also often have behind the scenes that prove the reality of their performances. Additionally, they openly talk about using auto tune for stylistic choices and will even state it right before a live performance to let Army know. If you want to hear their raw voices there are tons of videos to showcase that as well. Excited for you to continue learning about them! Tbh tho some of the things you said in your intro "as a musician" didn't make sense objectively, and you asking what "type of Army we'll be" was pretty condescending and pompous, which is why I think others are not taking to you well lol. That, and your ridiculous mocking...I mean...impression* of an Army defending their voice at 22:30. You see, I'm pretty sure the people writing those comments don't sound like that, but what's more troubling to me, is that those with real speech impediments could very well be offended by your "impression." Just saying. But hey, we're all human right? And let's be honest, some humans just weren't gifted with an endearing personality. I'm ultimately here for the positive tho, and I believe that once you see the caliber of human beings the members of BTS are, you'll definitely be inspired by them and their humility... maybe even changed for the better? :) Remember, self growth is a beautiful thing, as BTS openly exemplifies in every aspect! And apologizing for the offenses- def a great place to start.
Every artist does it? You can say lip syncing is fine, but I think you are well aware as artist in a live performance people inferring that lip syncing is occurring unless there is legitimate reason has pejorative connotations. I think it is important to point out instances you question if you are going to take that tack. After all, if the artist you are reacting to actually is not lip syncing you in essence have insulted their artistry. If you feel professional musicians are cutting corners, and you choose to bring it up, I think you owe it to your listeners to specify what made you say so. I think I am not being specific to BTS in my statements so please do not consider this ARMY on attack. My point is this is not Madonna doing a large costumed show which would lend artistic purpose to lip syncing so a comment which has negative connotations should probably be made with justifications if at all.
Ohhhh, I see what happened. I’m using industry terms and it’s all getting mixed up by my ADD reaction. Let me clarify: When artists film a music video, they are lip-syncing to a pre-recorded track. That is what I meant by “every artist does it.” This recording may have been recorded “live,” but the video editing tells me they may have performed each song multiple times, then edited it together to make the best video. When I say “it wasn’t live,” I mean it wasn’t filmed in one take. I never meant to infer they lip-synced anything. It’s possible they could have, because of the multiple takes thing, but I never claimed to know that. Hope that clears it up.
@Midnight Notion we have the same understanding of "live" No disrespect to anyone. My understanding of live whether the performance has mistakes or not it will be aired as such - I mean aired as it is. Sorry English not my fist language that's why most of the time have to explain myself again and again using different words to hopefully get my msg across. No hurt intended just the way I understand some stuff. Peace ✌️💜
@Midnight Notion sorry to reply again ✌️ but yes you are right! terminology has different meaning to different people I guess. I mean if you are from the industry of production/behind the scenes/music industry using the term "live" "lip-syncing" is different from an ordinary viewer coz our minds don't work the same way. Just like a doctor(or professional health workers) and patients don't have sometimes same understanding of terms used. As viewers you have to understand where the vid reactor coming from. I have watched group of people - singers + drummers/guitarist reacting bts vid and both have different take of the vid coz one tend to react to his/her Forte or interest. The singer to the voices while the others to the 🎶 music. I do hope viewers get to distinguish the different takes of both sides without hurting the other. Peace ✌️ 💜 Omg sorry again for this long explanation ✌️✌️✌️ Have a good one to all 🌞🌠
I guess I am a tad confused. Lip syncing in music videos is extremely common. Lip syncing in performance more often than not can connote that an artist is pretending to sing due to an inability to perform without aid the back track actually providing non-sung parts while they mouth what is not sung. That said, the use of lip syncing can be done to allow a performance which unlike studio recordings, is unable to be interrupted to provide a fullness which an artist struggling to cover every vocal element might detract from. However, I must say, BTS does not lip sync passages but once in a while allows strategic back track fills in their performance when it is perceived to augment the artistry. They do not pretend to mouth words while these occur but leave back track fills as recognizable artistic choices. I am unclear that I saw any of that during these three songs. For me it is immaterial whether BTS filmed this in one or one hundred takes. I did not see where members were just moving their lips. I think conflating multiple takes or editing of a performance with lip syncing does have the pejorative implication for the majority of listeners who almost universally view lip syncing as moving of lips while not actually singing.
Appreciate your comment, but if you're hitting every obstacle on this road, maybe it's not for you. No matter how tempting the numbers may be, participation is not required.
Yeah, had the same thought. And in the Black swan vid he said he really wanted to like them. I'm not sure how it is now as of current time, if he likes them or not. And maybe some songs grows on you, but you shouldn't force yourself to like something. Maybe some things arent youf taste and that's okay
ARMY have had conversations with the backup singers from this performance. It's live. BTS would never record a special "live" performance just for their fans (to celebrate their anniversary) and then lip sync.
How come you don't get a reply from him afterall he had replied to quite a number of comments trying to prove them wrong? I also read a commentor who lives nearby this performance venue and she could even hear them singing Live.
There are a lot of comments and I don’t always get to every single one. I work 50-60 hours a week outside of TH-cam, so please don’t judge me by my ability to respond. Other channels may not respond at all. I do my best to interact as much as possible. Ali S, to your point: there is confusion about what I meant when I said “live.” I meant that the video was pre-recorded, not the audio. I mentioned they COULD have lip synced, but I did not claim that’s what they did, I just said that’s something other artists do. In actuality, they probably performed each song 2 or 3 times, then edited them together to create this wonderful thing we see now. That means it wasn’t performed “live” as in it wasn’t performed the same way as a live show. They sang live, but the video was edited before anyone saw it. Hope that clears it up.
@@MidnightNotionjust to clarify they didn’t lip sync this performance, just because they’re better than most people singing live it does mean that they always use auto tune or lip sync, they also have their variety show (in the soop) and it shows their daily life activities and they do just randomly sing while cooking or just sitting around, and there is jimin singing without a microphone just while sitting and you can hear that his natural voice in singing is really high just like the perf you just watched if you want to check it out the part when jimin is singing without a microphone just type in “jimin singing “don’t wake me up hobi” in the soop” he was singing something about not wanting one of the members to wake him up because he stayed up playing games and blah blah blah so if you really want to hear his natural voice check out that video it’s 1 or 2 minutes long so it wouldn’t hurt to check it out
I think there has been a lot of misunderstanding on this video, primarily in my terminology, because some words seem to be triggers for BTS fans, even when they’re not meant as an attack. For instance, “lip sync” means “mouthing the words along with a recording,” but it can be done professionally (like in every music video) or it can be done unprofessionally (like Milli Vanilli or Ashley Simpson). The reason every professional artist lip syncs is because studio recordings always sound better than recordings in, say, a desert. So the pros often take a good studio recording and they lip sync it in the desert for a good visual, and then they get a really great final product! That does not imply that a band CAN’T perform without lip syncing, it just means they care about quality. When I presumed they might be lip syncing, I had no idea so many fans would be upset with that idea, because it’s something nearly every artist does. They obviously sang the songs-that was never in question. They’re obviously great at what they do! I just like to try to spot what sort of audio and video production techniques are used, because that’s what I know most about. It’s fun for me to find those things, and I can’t really help it if people read my analysis style as hurtful. Anyone who thinks I’m trying to put down BTS is sorely mistaken. This band has been incredibly fun to explore.
@@MidnightNotion Just because some artist lypsync doesn't mean BTS lypsync they'd rather not sing a line than pretend to sing. In fact sometime's they'll move a mic away and stand still and here nothing there's no lyric at all. Other times they might be singing over their own voice and stop singing and you hear a faint version of their voice this sometime's happens in the hard choreo so if they have to miss a word or two to grab a breath you'll hear them breathing over a very muted voice track so you know oh he's not singing this bit this time he's out of breath. or it might just be one word they have to miss in order to get the air.
Him : There is a slight chance they're lipsync. ARMY : We don't pay hundred dollars goes to their concert just to see their face🙄🙄🙄 FYI, BTS have try lipsync once before and fail terribly. So, they choose to sing it live with some back up track. Edit : Wear your headphone to hear them clearly.. In that way, you can make better judgement.
I get that it sounds like Jimin's voice is autotuned, but it always sounds like that haha believe it or not that is his REAL voice, it's so unique 💜 also they sing live
All haters say like that and about JK's voice not just about Jimin. And still its their uniq voices. He just doesnt know how their voices sounds when there's no music
This reactor had been commenting that BTS doesn't sing live, auto-tuned, etc. since the beginning of his reactions to BTS. He even sounded condescending at times yet telling us he's genuine and professional.
lemme tell u they do sometimes put autotuned but jimin vocal is just unique by itself thats why it sound like a autotune...that's why when they put auto tune on jimin he sound like the exact autotune..I've been hearing jimin singing vocal since day one and till this day...jimin have his own style of singing..he creates that kinda sounds of him...to the point it kinda ruined his voices...bangpd always told him to to hit highnote to the point of strained his voices
I've seen a few of your non-BTS videos, and I'm just gonna throw it out there: I dont think BTS is what you're looking for. Every video you've done on BTS has not gone well because there's certain elements you're not a fan of, and you have every right to be. But it does come off as you knocking off the artist. As a classically trained musician myself, I can tell you I understand what you mean when you get technical about their production or staging or singing, but you're also not being fair to the end result. A massive pop band is obviously going to be edited. It doesn't take away from fhe craft itself. There's tons of stuff out there of theirs that isnt edited or heavily produced but I'm not gonna recommend it because it's hard to change preconceived ideas. So thank you for rhe video, but respectfully please leave it here. Its not fair to your channel, and it's not fair to ARMYs.
It's pretty obvious that they are rapping and singing live. You can see all of the wires for their equipment at the back. Just because they are neat, doesn't mean it isn't plugged in. They always use wireless mics.🤔
You really need to stop looking at BTS in the eyes of western artist. We interact with them a lot more than other artists and fans do through lives and vlogs that go on for hours and hours in just a hotel room, and if they have rehearsed a speech for an official event that too is common knowledge for us cause we get the behind the scenes of them practicing and panicking😅 They have unique voices that you will hear more and more as you hear their songs🙂 and conversations You need to watch the guide
I respect that you say what you feel But you are sadly misinformed and may have a slight judgement based on western music bias. Remember that the Korean music industry is handled vastly different from the west. They go through years of training including hours upon hours of singing and dancing practice with the hopes of being allowed to debut and the fear of being cut. The boys trained to sing live and even sing while dancing by singing while on a treadmill. Also, they are ATROCIOUS at lip syncing. It's so bad that it's a joke within the fandom and BTS don't sing during performances sometimes to combat the lip syncing claims(mainly SUGA will purposely put his mic down when his part comes up), sometimes they have the crowd sing their verse, they mess up and mess up the lyrics sometimes or fall during performances and will one members voice is not doing well or starts cracking during performances another member will either take over their parts or will sing with them (in most cases it Jungkook). Of course I'm not blind to the fact that they have backing tracks and will use auto tune on occasion (for stylistic choices the majority of the time). But they are extremely hardworking and take their performances seriously they give their all ....... I really think you should check out "this is BTS" by xceleste and "an introduction to BTS members" th-cam.com/video/huV_yIdxZPY/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/3cESARetI9U/w-d-xo.html Edit: also, I will say that don't take to heart the harshness that some ARMYS have, the boys have been through ALOT and the fandom has basically been right there beside them. Sometimes we get a little overprotective. It's been a long uphill battle and sometimes we just get exhausted and aggravated when people come at them or when if feels that way, without taking a second to judge if it's intentional or not. I understand that you don't know about them and you can only judge based of what you know and what you've seen or experienced. Hopefully other ARMYS keep that in mind. I look forward to seeing your BTS journey and your understanding of the group 🤗
I'll give you one comment because you want engagement. Judging by the comments and replies, you don't seem to get the point why many people are upset. It's not the "observations" or "criticisms." BTS and Army get many of those. It's your tone and attitude. You're mocking, haughty, and nitpicking just to get a gotcha moment and they're not even gotcha moments in the first place. You give criticisms but you cry foul when Army criticize you back. Cant take what you dish out, huh? Armys, don't waste any more time with this guy. Stop recommending songs. Stop trying to convert him or prove him wrong. BTS is still BTS regardless of what a TH-cam reactor says. We're only giving him engagement which will push him up the algorithm. This is what he wants. Clout. We need to stop giving it to him. You can delete all the views you gave to him by deleting it in your history. After that, block this man's channel. This way he won't show up in your recommendations. Let's focus on streaming Joonie's new MV instead. 💜
If you read elsewhere you'll see that he definitely didn't mean to come across poorly with the thumbnail and also when he used that voice copying some fans. He's really open to feedback and cares about things.
Born Singer is actually a remake of J. Cole's song called Born Sinner from 2013. They recorded their version back in 2013 and had only performed it live twice before. Anderson .Paak is the drummer and he's part of the duo with Bruno Mars called Silk Sonic, he's also part Korean and his wife his Korean too. RM actually has a song on his new solo album called Indigo with Anderson .Paak called Still Life. Requesting performances can be tricky because it's hard to know what will be blocked or not. But their very first songs were No More Dream and We Are Bulletproof Pt. 2 which both came out in 2013. Here is a performance that came out right around the time they debuted th-cam.com/video/A5f_jDZCoqA/w-d-xo.html. These 2 songs also have music videos. Also the lineup in the last song For Youth (since they are standing) is from left and right is Jin, Suga, RM, V, Jimin, J-Hope, and Jungkook. I believe when you guessed for Yet To Come you got the last 3 mixed up. It was Suga, Jimin, and J-Hope on the end. If you really want to learn more about BTS and the members who should watch the video A Guide to BTS Members: The Bangtan 7 by Taylor Mari. It's a 47 minute video but trust me the time goes by quick. It tells you about each member 1 by 1 on how they became a member of BTS and more about their talents and personalities. Thanks for reacting.
hear me out, I'm a 33 year old ARMY, people don't hate your opinion, i think that was clarified already, you are assuming, they lip sync, you are assuming is all edited and also the use of auto tune, they don't, their dedication is beyond anything you have been exposed to with western music, these are not the backstreet boys, one direction, nor nsync, these men have raw talent that will amaze you, they have faced a lot of shit not just in Korea, but the racism and xenophobia in the US and other countries have put a huge wall up for ARMY, because we are tired of it, so if instead of making assumptions you actually get to know their talents and their dedication i promise you will understand, they have saved a lot of people from taking their lives, myself included, they are therapy to a lot of us, so of course we are not going to take certain comments lightly, we protect what we love.
I hardly watch reaction videos but just came here to see if army are true or not. Nope not watching this guy. Didn't watch everything. Reading comments tells enough already. And was trying to understand have an open mind of him explaining jimin's part then the part followed of his reaction of army on 22:30. Sounds condescending much. But then it's army that he try to get views from. Hard pass.
He always sounded condescending and mocking when reacting to BTS. After watching his two reactions, it's enough to know his negative mindset about BTS.
@@emilyl1094 Right. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and watched 2 videos but no. Still not changing my mind. He just rubs off the wrong way.
I’m sorry I rub you the wrong way. I don’t think I can change your opinion of me, but I can wish you well and hope that when you make something genuine, nobody questions your motives. It sounds like BTS and Army went through a real rough patch in the early days. That people were making fun of the band and the fans, and using them for views, and stirring the pot, talking down to, etc. It seems like that negative energy is still healing, and that when subjects of editing and autotune come up, they rip open old wounds. For anyone still willing to give me some grace, as a new fan, that isn’t my intent at all. My channel is supposed to be about the behind the scenes work for music and video production; to share what it takes to make something great. If you thought I was trying to call BTS fake or bad, I encourage you to listen closer, because I loved Proof live. People have often commented that I should do more research before reacting to BTS. My challenge to them is that maybe they should do some research about me too. My history and my kindness and my passion all speak for themselves. Perhaps knowing me a little better will help you understand how sincere this video actually is. Or, of course, you may decide to never come back. And that’s okay. I’m not for everyone. But I do, genuinely, wish you well.
Genuinely, I appreciate the reaction. I like seeing musicians and people from the industry/performers (aka people who have an idea of how this works and how they do what they do and not just hype people, which is a completely different side of reactors). And I think people tend to forget that a lot of reactors don’t have any idea of what goes into productions like this. So when you hear something other than hype and positive stuff then there is this idea that they (the reactor) is attacking the boys. This isn’t the case, to ARMYs out there I genuinely don’t think you’re going to get the same kind of reactions as the hype people here. I don’t think that’s what is being advertised either. He is clearly trying to understand and learn about them not only as a group but as performers, he has a view into it several others don’t. So let’s keep it respectful okay? But to you, the channel owner and the individual doing the reactions I apologize that I don’t know your name. I don’t think you said it if you did I’m so so sorry! But anyways, I want to let you know that most of army is very very protective over BTS. Especially when it comes to people who don’t have a lot of “positive” things to say. (Funnily enough criticism is positive everyone I promise as long as it’s done in a constructive way, which is all I’ve seen from this reactor specifically). These boys have gone through a lot as artists and made it big through a lot of difficulty and they continue to struggle even to this day (because we are human it is normal). We’ve seen a lot of people try to use them, criticize without being constructive and look down on them for superficial aspects. We’ve seen their artistry and their hard work really be joked about and called music for teenagers. When it’s not the case. So in all, I’m very sorry some people have been rude to you. You don’t deserve it when, at least I can see, there’s a genuine desire to learn there. ARMY - please be kind to those who are just learning. It’s very different from any other kind/style of music and for those not introduced to it negativity can be very off-putting. And, it’s also not for everyone either. So if he doesn’t like something, he has a right to his opinion. Be kind all 💜💜💜
Hi, I’m Bryce. Thank you for this. It means the world to have viewers like you who can bridge the gap between me and the rest of the viewers. My only intent was to have fun. 😊
@@MidnightNotion and I hope you did! You were saying some really great things that I didn’t know about. So I’m taking that away with me! But, I do want to encourage you to listen to more. Even if you don’t film and react to it (I know someone not wanting content for themselves wowow) but, I think that’s entirely up to you as well. I understand that these videos and videos like these do well, so if you want to do it then I think before going any further there are some videos you should watch just to understand them better as a group and a unit and what their message is. Their story is super interesting and there’s some really big highs but really big lows as well. I know I’ve seen it suggested already. But the xCeleste videos are wonderful, she does a great job of explaining not only through the fans eyes but also showing facts and data on them as well. But if the negativity is too much or making the journey less enjoyable for you? Then I wouldn’t post it, because as much as I would love to know and see you come to enjoy them (if that’s how it goes), then of course I want to see it as a fan as well. But your mental health is important too. If it’s too much then don’t do it. But I do encourage you to look into them and Kpop as a genre on your own time away from a camera. Because even if we don’t see it, you still get to connect with the songs and the lyrics if you want without fear of a literal ARMY coming at you. Because it’s a lot, and the reality is that not everyone is going to hype bts not everyone is going to like every single song it’s just not how that works. I’ve been a fan of them since late 2013, and as an international fan that was super hard for me. Because Kpop didn’t really get big until 2017/2018 here in the west (from the US). So I understand the want and sometimes need to defend the boys but I really don’t think it’s coming from a place of maliciousness. All in all, thank you for the reaction. I’ll be back for more content. Subscribed.
@@MidnightNotion Ok I hope the reaction to the guide is next. And it won't take two months again for it. I admit I am a person who has doubted your intentions here but I admit that when people are ignorant of who BTS is they tend to have preconceived notions that cloud their judgement so you are not the only one. I actually appreciate reactions like these because I get to see people realizing that all those pre conceived notions do not apply to BTS. If you want the link to Taylor's guide let me know. I'll provide the link.
What you heard when Jimin was singing is a backing track but this was definitely sung live, they use backing tracks in some parts but you can clearly hear their voices.
@@sc33h3o3 not the person you're asking to but: BTS uses a lot of voice layering on their songs, in their studio versions. Sometimes, for their live performances, the member sings one of the layers (not always the one that on the studio version would be considered as the "upfront" or "main" layer) and the rest play in the background (edited for Grammar and spelling)
So you ask for fans to think "what kind of fan am i" but then at 22:30 literally mock us? You should reflect on yourself and not delete comments, cause you come off as insecure in taking critics
I don’t delete comments. And at that time stamp, I was mocking people who don’t know anything about autotune, but then try to tell me-a professional audio engineer-that my trained ears don’t know what autotune sounds like. Some Army like to yell about things that aren’t real, and I definitely think that’s silly. But if you thought I was mocking serious fans, you are mistaken. I’m here for the conversation, not for people screaming at me about how wrong I am about provable things.
@@MidnightNotion mocking is mocking, doesn't matter who it is. If you just said it normaly: oh, it is his voice they say ..and you did: oh, iTs His vOiCe ThEy sAy... it's a mockery and fans who say that are not purely "defending" Jimin, we have 10 years of experiencing his voice change, how hard he trained his voice and you claiming being music professional should act like one: oh, i might be wrong but is sounds like they did small effect on the voice to pitch correct...your whole video was made trying to find lipsync, cuts, fakeness, if this is what you are for, than sorry it's the wrong band to react to BTS are such high level if professionals that everyone in the industry are deeply amazed by that. Again, mocking any type of fans is not ok, only if you want to appeal to the BTS haters, then by all means go ahead
You’re right, @Sasha. Mocking is mocking. It isn’t right, and I should be more careful with my sarcasm. Most viewers don’t know me or my heart, and cannot tell my intent on the first view. Thank you for that reminder. My BTS reactions tend to draw out a LOT of hate and judgment about me and my character. I’m a human and an empath, so I take it really hard. I never expected so much hate for a video where I was really into the band, but I got a lot of it last time, so I created a voice for the people who upset me. Unintentionally, the good Army took offense to it, and that’s my bad. So sorry.
@@MidnightNotion even I at some point had many realizations/epiphanies that my fan experience, someone who discovered them/their greatness in June 2021, is very very different from fans who have been there from much earlier or the beginning (2013) when BTS went through so much (they still do get mocked and *marginalized*) and who also as fans have gone through a lot more than me (it's easier to get made fun of or looked on as weird for being a fan if they've been Grammy nominated, whereas many fans had it much worse for years and have had to educate others around them with even louder voices). *When they are not put in Spotify playlists by genre and only put in kpop playlists to keep them from competing* *When my mtv vma's kpop, billboard global ex award categories keep them from outshining Western acts by keeping them separate* *When billboard increases the importance of radio play (bts' area of disadvantage) in charting numbers to make it harder for them to keep outshining Western artists* I can't imagine being a fan through BTS' times of major struggles. You might be encountering a few weary warriors is my point?
The apology explanation but then joking about negative engagement in one of the comments? Do better next time. Maybe do XCeleste intro to Army first. You’ll learn a lot .
The reason people were so quick to get upset is because multiple ppl have done reactions to their performances just to try to prove they don’t sing live and they aren’t as good as ppl make them out to be. Just quick to find anything wrong and have a “gotcha” moment. While that may not have been what you were doing, it came off that way.
ARMY don’t engage this man he is using BTS to get views. He is condescending and has no interest in learning anything about BTS. He is being disrespectful in the first minute. Please don’t waste your time.
I am specifically reviewing BTS because of the amount of people who asked for more. I am sometimes sarcastic, yes, but I am thoroughly enjoying the group so far, and have never meant disrespect. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
@@MidnightNotion Now if you react to Taylor's guide it will be my last chance I give to you. Stop saying nonsense about JK's and Jimin's voices because as I told you in previous videos we have heard them sing without any music whatsoever and they sound exactly the same. Stop saying you are a professional and know better than us when you sound ignorant and prejudiced at best. Trust us to know better and actual music critics and professionals who have said countless of times praises about their voices. Noone will take you seriously because unlike you we have been with BTS for years some of us even pre debut. We know perfectly well their voices. More than a self proclaimed "professional" like you.
I have watched all three of your BTS videos and have enjoyed them. An average fan doesn't have much clue about music production. I know I don't, which is why I prefer watching reactions of actual musicians and singers because I often end up learning something new. With that said, keep in mind that word 'autotune' and 'lip-syncing' are generally perceived negatively so you're bound to have knee-jerk reactions. I honestly don't have an advice for that, I feel like you shouldn't feel like you can't state facts just because someone might misunderstand. One thing I will point out is that there's no need to mock ARMY. It's only going to create more negativity and ultimately we're all your viewers. If you intend to continue doing BTS videos it's best to just ignore the hateful comments, don't even engage. I honestly don't know why people are getting so triggered. While it's true that we as a fandom have a collective PTSD, I think it's mostly just a lot of misunderstanding happening. With that said, I wonder if BTS is a good match for your channel. BTS, and kpop in general, is not only about music. The visuals, staging, choreography and outfits are all just as important and create this audio-visual experience. That is because korean pop music developed during TV era and so by focusing on music only you're focusing on one aspect of what makes BTS great. I'm not criticizing you, just trying to explain why some viewers might find this frustrating. Also, it was quite hilarious watching you try and analyze lyrics for Dynamite in the previous video like there's some deep wisdom hiding there😂 It's true that BTS' lyrics can go really deep but it doesn't apply to every song and most of the time you're not going to catch it just by reading a translation. Sometimes It requires a lot more digging into Korean culture, history, social climate, classic literature, psychology and understanding slang which is not even going to translate well. Can I suggest you watch an introduction video by Taylor for your next video? It's lengthy but it'll help you familiarize yourself with the members, their particular talents and roles within the group and it also has little snippets of their solo songs. Okay, I already wrote a whole essay here when you already have 500+ comments, sorry. I'll leave you with a quote from one of RM's recent songs 'Still Life' (it features Anderson Paak btw, you might like RM's album now that I think about it): "Don't listen to the haters, it'll hurt your ears. It's always the fools putting their lives on the line for the online."
Omg, they do not lip sync. They are famous for that fact with their live performances. Guess you didn't hear RM announce Anderson. Paak on the drums in the second song. Anderson and Bruno Mars are the award winning duo Silk Sonic.
I can tell that you are the kind of person who could really appreciate BTS for their music and artistry, even if you don't like all their songs. RM just came out with a solo album and he has been getting high praise for his lyricism, introspect and ability to adapt to different genres. It's called Indigo if you wanted to check it out.
If you listen to the audio version first, the actual tracks on music platform, you can tell the differences and understand why people are correcting you about your doubt of them not singing live.
you must not be an actor cause if so you would know what a prodigious talent it would take to lip sync so perfectly, eg Suga's eyelids clamping down during his rap in Born Singer lol. Also I don't think Grammy winner, creative genius Anderson Paak is going to be part of a production where people are lip syncing. The background singers apparently reported that Jin especially is a "CD eater"
yes! there are so many things that makes it obvious that it is sung live. one example is during joon’s part “let the the haters hate on me”, he missed “the hate on me” part. how is that even possible if it’s lipsynced? they keep adding adlibs here and there and saying stuff like “let’s go j-hope!” and jungkook’s line during for youth is also done differently everytime he performed it. if you have listened to the original versions, it is instantly recognizable that they are singing live.
Everyone is really focused on the lip syncing thing-I legitimately do not recall saying they lip-synced the whole thing. Can you help me understand why people are so focused on this thing I don’t think I even claimed?
@@MidnightNotion i'll watch **again** it to try to help you answer this, but a big part of this is that in huge letters in the intro frame it says "IS IT REALLY LIVE?" which in a way is a bit "irregular?" most reactors are not so concerned about this that they would choose to put that on their intro frame? so if definitely seemed like YOUR ENTIRE GOAL of watching the video, and the main objective for your watching was to ascertain the answer to that question, so many felt inclined to respond. those of us that watch them in live concerts, in person, and watch live stuff REPEATEDLY, and many versions of live concert footages AGAIN and AGAIN (yes we're repeat watchers in the dozens of views depending lol), we know that they are uncommonly great at being able to sing while dancing, uncommonly great at not straining while singing to where some can be skeptical. like was said elsewhere, watch concert footage, various fancams, especially from Seoul if you need proof of how good they are at singing live.
@@MidnightNotion it is so obvious they're not lipsyncing, you can hear breathing at times, and we know our guys' faces, so everyone is just trying to help you bc answer the question you wrote in big capital letters in the intro frame :)
Lmfao hopefully in a month or two if you decide to go down the bts journey there will be some growth and we can all look back and laugh at the ignorance in this video
I think you would really enjoy watching some of Jungkooks VLive videos! He goes live and just sings into the camera while people watch in real time, and it’s so cool!
Agree. In the previous video he kept saying JK was using Autotune. There are hundreds of videos of him singing on Vlive or a capella if he takes the effort to look for them instead of just assuming they aren't that good...
I don’t follow a lot of new music-hence the reason I’m switching genres every week. To learn more. I can’t possibly know everyone who has ever won a Grammy, but I know him now!
@@MidnightNotion He is an OG, and a really famous drummer. No Judgment, I was just surprised. Because he is really huge, maybe it's the Genre R&B, Soul, Hip Hop lots of black Music. I know people tend to stay in their Genre a lot. That's so cool about BTS, they recently do some Solo stuff, because they have to do their Military Service it's sadly mandatory in South Korea. Anyway, J-Hope of BTS recently made history and gave Lollapalooza the biggest Crowed in History and was the highest selling Artist ever. His Album is also the 9th best Album of 2022 by the Rolling Stone, his solo stuff is a bit grungier, maybe you check out his Performance there, here is a link th-cam.com/video/6ak5yOmj8W8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=BANGTANTV
here his is a little medley he did, maybe the whole performance is too long for you. Or check out his Title Tracks MORE and ARSON th-cam.com/video/H1m3P0MWkMc/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=BANGTANTV
New watchers always assume Jimin uses auto tune😂 that's his natural voice you'll discover that yourself later on watching more of their contents. AND they don't lipsync.
Jimin voice sounds like that naturally ffs 😭..we've heard him singing without any music, straight acapella, recording in studio HUNDREDS of time..he ACTUALLY sounds like that..that's why his voice is categorised as one of the most unique out there. Pls stop blaming us for calling u out on ur blatant accusations on their artistry atleast do ur proper research before that.
As someone with performance and recording experience (classical violin 👋🏻) I can say with certainty that every live performance is edited to some extent. No matter how good your performer is, you cannot compete with the wind or other background noise factors without a little outside help. When Yo-Yo Ma and Itzhak Perlman performed for one of the recent Presidential inaugurations, they relied heavily on a backing track to get them through an outdoor DC concert in mid-January, and that was for an actual live performance... imagine what editing can be done when the live concert was pre-recorded and released at a later point! Editing itself isn't bad, performing with auto-tune for effect and with a backing track for safety isn't bad, but ARMYs have come to consider it a trigger because of unfair and untrue accusations that keep cropping up during BTS's career...mainly that there was no way their performances could be so good without it having been edited, lip-synced, etc. There was even one concert where Suga skipped rapping his line entirely to prove that he wasn't lip-syncing and that there was no vocal backing track behind him. I'm an ARMY and I love and admire BTS, but from a musician's standpoint I can understand that you were only trying to explain some of the technical aspects of production... you just happened to hit a few sore spots for us, given BTS's history. I hope this doesn't scare you off from reacting to more BTS and sharing your musician knowledge with us!! (Their lyrics really are quite poetic and deep, but many of them are references to literature or philosophy or in-jokes with fans that would require more explanation than a simple translation can give you.) and to the ARMYs here, pls let this reactor share his honest and respectful opinions with us. he's as new to it as we all once were, you can't expect him to know everything all at once. remember what BTS told us in UGH!: "There are tens of thousands of reasons to be raging / Good will and evil will, all the very same / I can rage, but if there were to be damage done / To others' lives, I don't like (it)"
As long as you aren’t disrespectful, ARMY won’t be rude to you. If you continuously make wrong assumptions or sound condescending, people will be frustrated.
What if you continually make guesses about the things you’re seeing and hearing for the first time, and some of them are wrong, but you never claim to know the truth, yet people misinterpret your excitement for the adventure as being condescending and judgmental? Then what?
Bro I know you're being respectful, I'm not being angry but just giving you another angle of thought. I've also been working as a sound engineer (up to you to believe me or not feel free). You would normally assume his voice has pitch correction on post but I also listen to him singing Acapella. And his voice actually does that, it's really interesting, it's like he forcefully jumps to one note to another. Even when he does runs, he does it quite forcefully. That is why jungkook the other member does the runs quite often since his voice is gentle with runs while Jimin usually sings lead. I mean it's understandable why you thought that way but working with a lot of vocalists made an impression on me that there can be a lot of voices out there some are really peculiar ones. I know ofc big performances like these have on post productions, cuz I am also working on the field but you should also know that there are actually people that have voices like that. Ofc there are parts where there are tampered but totally not the parts that you were pointing out, since he naturally sings that way. But ye that's all I wanted to say. Other than that great vid. Ps. I liked your reaction, keep it up. Long messages like these does not imply Im being mean. It just needed a lot of words to get the point across. Either way best of luck.
Hey! Welcome! For the record: I do not read your comment as mean. Thanks for the response. I’m glad you’re in the field of audio production. Maybe that means we can actually talk this one out! Step 1 is the following short video. Will you watch and tell me if you can hear the difference? th-cam.com/video/V6OTN3y62nE/w-d-xo.html To me, it’s crystal clear. Some say they can’t hear it, and I would typically say that’s because they don’t have the ear training that us engineers have. Maybe you’ll be able to identify it better?
@@MidnightNotionhmmmm of course it's obvious? Even if u don't have any music background but have listened to any artist for long enough u would be able to tell what they sound like w or w/o autotune... Okay so I'm not angry or anything but please hear me out.... The thing about jimins vocals specifically is that the placement is different that what mainstream musicians do.... It's like trying to listen to and arab singer and having no idea where the sounds are coming from, if ur not familiar w it, it would sound artificial since it's not comprehendable to what ur used to.... This song specifically (for youth) has some behind the scenes footage of jimin singing it every 3 seconds while they had a shoot (lol he just loves it), the vocals sound even more autotuned even though they were in the background and he had no mic on and others where talking over him...... I think the only way for u to understand what armys are trying to say is to listen to him singing or humming acapella cuz really his voice is crazy.... Btw even tho we're talking about him a lot, this is not go say he has conventionally "perfect" vocals, he's the one who struggled the most with singing since his voice didn't work well with "normal pop techniques" so he had to develop his own singing style that suited his voice qualities So again, I understand where ur coming from really, but as other said in a harsher tone, it is true that most armys have acquired a great music knowledge to understand basic stuff, so most of them know what they're talking about, they're not protective for the sake if making the guys seem perfect, but for the fact we know they aren't, we've seen them struggle amd we've seen them succeed, we're not just simply trying to tell u that ur wrong, but simply most of them are frustrated by how easily their knowledge and experiences are being undermined and overlooked...... Again I did enjoy the vid and I do hope to see more from u, ik ur trying to be open minded, but u'll be utterly shocked to see what ppl can do with their voices not just BTS, also if u can't tell I'm not talking about jimin hitting the high note, but how artificial and potentially robotic he might sound, a vocal couch once compared his acapella to as if someone is speaking into a talk box , it sounds crazy ik, but it does sound like that acapella too so yea💜💜
You are right, the lyrics from yet to come are exactly like that, and the lyrics from the last song are for Army, and the begging of the song actually is army singing "FOREVER YOUNG" in their Webley Stadium
Everyone is going to have there own opinions and that's fine but one piece of advice moving forward, do not use that awful mocking voice. It really is offensive and unnecessary 😒
Serious question..Not this paticular performance but why do BTS just stop singing in concerts if their throat hurts when they can just lipsync to the song?? There are also instances when they go off key and has voice cracks when performing live..Are those lipsync too??Did they record voice cracks, their laughs, some shouting, adlibs and then lipsync to it?? If it's really posible to correct the pitch of their voices why did they didn't do it to hide voice cracks during live performances?? I'm not saying that BTS are bad performers since they are the best for me but I'm confused if they really lipsync or used pitch correctors why do these small incidents still happens?
If you ever need help just ask me or any army in here. There is a guide that introduces each member of bts it's updated from may 2022 its literally so helpful I promise you you'll get to know more about the group and individual members as well. The guide is by Taylor.
You say lip syncing yet their voices are coming out of their mouths into the mics. So condescending AF and Pure comedy for this entire reaction segment
This was filmed live as an online show for the Army's. And if you listen to the studio version and more live videos you can hear the difference if you're a musician with an 👂
It was filmed, yes, but did it air at the exact same time as it was being filmed, or did it air later? Because that’s what I’m talking about in the video. If there was time between the filming and the debut, then it wasn’t LIVE, it was pre-filmed. As a musician who performs live AND does recording, I’m very used to the difference, and this sounds edited to me.
How can you be a musician and still cant differentiate btw live ,lipsymc and prerecorded singing?not demeaning u or something but this is obviously live,and yeah the use some backtrack and prerecorded vocals sometimes(one two lines),but this is completely live
There has been a massive misunderstanding of my meaning. When I said “it’s not live” I meant FILMING, not singing. Of course it’s sung live, but they did multiple takes and edited it together to create something more appealing.
Most of us understand that you are commenting as an industry pro who knows the secrets of putting on shows, and appreciate the insight. Remember that a lot of fans are extremely young, or simply more invested in the show than the business. I'm pretty old, but still remember a period in my life when nobody was ever going to convince me that John Lennon did not actually bury Paul McCartney. If you're too young to get the reference, look it up heh heh heh... Don't get too offended if some fans don't enjoy having tricks of the trade explained to them. They just won't accept the fact that every mic in the world has processing (and yes, those mics are extremely good - Sennheiser SKM 6000. This is a South Korean group so you can be sure they are using state-of-the-art-wireless). Don't take it personally when some of them attack. That kind of fan does that kind of thing to everyone, and we don't actually claim the rude ones. I've seen them flame someone for mispronouncing a name - when we all know dang well they were butchering it too a few months back. Just ignore and block. That's what we do. That being said, BTS really are different. It has been widely reported by TV producers in South Korea that they need very little to no backing tracks when performing live. They are kind of legendary in the tv show world for dropping a word or two intentionally to prove they're really singing. Another way to tell is they're for real by watching a music video. They are just terrible at lip syncing, especially Suga. Because they only do it then. It really is hard to believe anyone can dance and sing the way they do. Most of us understand the skepticism, and are just patiently waiting for you to see enough evidence for yourself. They do use prompters at live concerts, like everyone else.
He had been commenting a lot on the technical aspects of BTS performances which I'm sure not all but most of the Western and other countries artists had also done the same for their stage performances, etc. At times, he sounded condescending and seemed to "watch out" for their flaws on every reaction since the beginning. It made us feel that BTS is not his cup of tea and he was nick-picking thus, he didn't give himself a chance to enjoy their music production.
@@emilyl1094 Yes I picked up on that. But plenty of others covered that so I did not need to repeat any of it. He will learn that he was mistaken like everyone else. Give him some time. he's in the 'brat' stage of skepticism. Just like teens, they grow out of it. The one thing many are irritated about was the way he criticized the sound engineer. Too a non-pro it sounded like he was criticizing Jimin's voice, but really he was bugged by the way the sound guys programmed the mic. A person who isn't in the business can't hear the effect, but really nobody should be able to tell. There should only be just a touch of processing, and they were laying it on too thick. That does not serve a singer as naturally talented as Jimin at all. This reactor forgot that regular people don't know things like this. It's the same thing when a non-K-pop person starts comparing members to each other or to other singers/rappers. They don't know that we don't do that with K-pop groups or soloists. So we have to explain so they will stop. There is nothing wrong with politely pointing out the off-putting tone or correcting misconceptions and wrong assumptions. And if he moderates himself, there's no reason to cancel him. He does have interesting things to say. A good reactor learns that there is a level of politeness expected in South Korea, and that expectation exists in our fandom, too. So we have to show it as well as require it.
This is my first time watching him and I can't stand him. It seems his reactions has always been wack just like this one. He should just leave BTS alone and react to small kpop groups within his league.
Gees!!! The cringe only gets worse with this one with his every new reaction to BTS. As he puts it at the end "No Surprise"!!!! Once again his inherent need to undermine the Boys under the pretext of "analyzing" the performance is really turning into an irksome attempt at "wanting" to know more about BTS. Just drop the act and move on to someone else. We will all be saving our time and energy that way. Thank you!
Wait… When I said “it’s no surprise,” I meant that BTS did an awesome job, because *of course they did*-they always do. Did you take that as a problem?
Of course you did! Your condescending , patronizing snarky jibes are so very innocent that they almost had some of us. I have seen many reactors openly claim that BTS is not their cup of tea and I actually appreciate their honesty , they did not beat around the bush... straight up not their kind of music... end of that. But You Sir are on another level. No amount of smiling and giggling through your remarks will convince me that you are genuinely interested in anything the Boys have put out there. I have said this before and I will say it again ...Your mind was already made even before you started.
A lot of reactors don’t have any credentials-they’re doing it just for the views. I understand why those people would make you upset because they are using your favorite band for views, and no matter what they say, it helps their channel. The irony here is that *you* made up your mind about *me* before you started. You assumed I was here to attack or slander the band from the very beginning, so you picked apart my words to find everything wrong with them, instead of actually understanding what I was saying. That is called confirmation bias, and I’m sorry you were able to find so much proof of maliciousness, but you need to understand the difference between reality and your imagination. I have credentials. I record music almost every day. I work with vocalists, and I get paid for it full-time. I also write songs and perform live in front of paying audiences. I am also a filmmaker and video editor, so I have a unique perspective that few other reactors have. So other reactors might not point out autotune because they don’t know what autotune sounds like. Other reactors might not point out how videos get edited because they hire someone else to edit their videos. When *I* point out something is edited, it’s not because I think it’s fake, it’s just because editing is something I know really, really well-again: because I do it every day for a living. Nilufer, your comments make you seem like an angry person. You have accused me of mean things and called me names and have spent a lot of time telling me that I’m cringey. You use exclamation points, which (at least in the west) makes it sound like yelling. By contrast, I am using periods and instead of attacking back, I am explaining myself. I know in my heart that if you had watched my videos with an open mind, you would have seen a man discovering something new that he enjoys. Because I do enjoy BTS. I have been listening to them more since this video. So let the haters hate on me, it's their job. When you play with the keyboard, I've made my career. 😉
So you don't think they're singing live based on...? You think RM is reading off a teleprompter based on...? Amazing how their microphones aren't picking up the wind so they must have some amazing system...sarc. Jimin is being pitch corrected because he's hitting all of his notes individually? Jimin ALWAYS hits his notes like that. So, Rocker Reacts, I always try to give new reactors a chance., but I'm going to make an exception in your case and I hope other ARMYs will ignore you. You make negative judgments with zero information. You mock them and think you're being clever. In other words, the only reason you're doing this is to get an audience. ARMY is smart and they'll see through this immediately.
I don't agree with this comment, I think he is so open to learn from everything, and to give feedback from what he already knows, (it may not be accurate but sincere, and I, myself prefer that than watching other reactors overreact and fake emotions just for the views) so are we teaching him or just judging him?? when did he mocked the guys? this is the kind of comment that make me wonder if we are trully listening to people. I can tell he has a lot of experience on producing and music just by listening to him, and I love lo learn that professional insight of what is happening behind the scenes in BTS videos, but because of this comments he doesn't feel comfortable reacting to BTS even tho they are worth the reaction and they are amazing vocalist and musicians. So be smart army and be more patient. Of course I know that Jimin can hit those high notes and even higher with his natural voice and without autotune, maybe he was rigth and this time there was something correcting his voice, so it could sound smooth, we don't know. The point is that he is still learning and us too. I think we have much more things to learn from him than all this complaints you are discussing about.
@@allyquintero7981 We as Army has nothing to learn from this guy. I agree with everything Sandra said,you may disagree,it's up to you but this guy's reaction is offputting. I'm not here to argue with you because I've seen your other comments defending him which I clearly don't understand. Also,That someone is hyped when reacting to BTS or anything else for that matter doesn't make them fake,it could be the person's personality,just saying. This guy just said he wants engagements so he obviously stirs the pot with the lame things he says to get a reaction and engagements from Army. I trust everyone will ignore him and his channel.
@Ally Quintero thank you for being here. I appreciate you. @BabyDoll I am a human, just like you. I have faults and I make mistakes. I also spend a lot of time making reactions that my subscribers have requested. I don’t do things for the views (most of my videos barely break 200), and I don’t troll for engagement. I DO make a point to respond to as many comments I can, and when someone comments with a hateful attitude, accusing me of being disingenuous or making false claims about who I am-I don’t sit back and take it, I fight back. Sometimes with snark. Sometimes with a reminder that their comments help my channel. But if you think I’m trying to bring people to my channel to write mean comments like yours, you are sorely mistaken. BTS is the only group I’ve reacted to who creates such nastiness in the comments. I never know what simple statement is going to set off this fanbase. I load these reactions with disclaimers because I’m worried I might say “RM is cool” and the internet will rip me apart. Nothing I said in this video was negative judgment. If you’ll recall the end, I said I liked all the songs, and I wish more bands would do this kind of thing. I pointed out some potential production tricks, but I never once said BTS is fake or bad or anything of the sort. I shouldn’t be interacting with you. I can tell that you’ve made a false opinion of me that no matter what I say, you won’t change because you don’t know me. But if there’s ever a chance for friendship, I’m going to fight for it. I wish you well, and that your frustrations with other reactors aren’t affecting your perception of me. I’m just here to celebrate music and talk about what I see in the moment. And that’s all. 😊
I guess you are busy making assumptions already. I think armys would say this time and again. That one of the things BTS is not good of is lip synching , they may have back up tracks at times but they sang over it every time.
I love their vocals in this video, they never fail to impress. I hope you enjoy this as much as ARMY do 💜 edit: I know their voices sound flawless but no they aren't lipsyncing in this video. If you listen to their voices individually you can tell easily that their vocals are raw and live. BTS are well trained singers that have polished their voices for over 9 years so that's why they sound really good. It's normal for BTS to practice singing and rapping while hitting their chest and/or running on the treadmill while singing or rapping. Just fyi since you're new to BTS, you will rarely see them lipsyncing unless they're filming a music video (so there's no reason for live audio obviously) or if they want to pretend they're singing during dance practice. Sometimes during dance practice they do sing and rap to prepare their voices to do the same thing for the preformance. BTS have backing tracks during preformances as many performers do. They especially use a backing track when they have upbeat or intense choreography so since they have to do them as the same time it's helpful to have a backing track. Also just so you know it's often that BTS use autotune more for a stylistic choice, not normally for the intention of pitch correction although a lot of singers do that and BTS have done that too. A great (and recent) example of this is when BTS' rappers (RM, j-hope & Suga) preformed during the Yet To Come Busan concert. Fun fact Suga uses autotune stylistically the most out of the BTS members in his music and when he's live. But as you've said you're new so we (ARMY) are here to educate and inform. I hope you found my input useful! My favorite song that they preformed was Born Singer btw, BTS have preformed that song live only 3 times. Once in 2013, their debut year, once in 2015, and once in this video. As a viewer I hope to see more open-minded, honest and attentive reactions to BTS in the future!
He wanted to see what the voice of a human can do. And when he hear Jimin, someone with one of the most unique voice ever! He calls it edited, auto-tuned and not natural……got it
In Korea they are very strict with concerts, people are paying to hear singing, so NINETY percent of the concert has to be live singing, some call and answer style can be recorded, or more rarely adlib stuff occasionally is not live likely bc of dancing. There is some OLD footage from tv shows when they were much younger where it seems like it might be lip synced, my theory is that when they used to do Korean television shows, on occasion, maybe the first time they worked out a new routine, they sometimes lip synced it. For the bulk of their career especially later in their careers they don't ever lip sync, they are such masters at their elite level of performance by now
Obviously I know BTS doesn't lip sync, but is live singing that important for Korean concerts? The reason why I ask this because 90 percent of the performances I watch from various kpop artists are lip synced. I mean maybe it's different for concerts but for comeback stages a lot of them do lip sync and I hate it. I also hate when people say it's okay to lip sync because no one can dance that hard and sing perfectly live. Well of course no one expects the vocals to be perfect during a live concert but I still expect the artists to sing live, I don't go to concerts to hear audio I can hear at home. And BTS prove you can dance, jump, run and still sing live.
@@crystalsnow1138 are you differentiating between a concert (where people pay to see singers not lipsyncing dancers so the law is strict) or a television show (where no people are paying tickets)?
@@sc33h3o3 As far as I know there is no law anywhere that says artists can't lip sync during concerts, and in my opinion just because the audience isn't paying for a tv show performance doesn't give them a free pass to lip sync. That's why I'm asking is it common for concerts in SK to be more live singing than the tv performances.
I guess since ur not familiar with their voices so much its natural to think that its not live … and we dont take autotune as a negative but when we say this is live means its live coz thats how he (jimin)sounds even without any mics and music Assistance singing randomly into screen … its fine if u don’t agree we can only tell u a fact when we know one . And them talking is equally important to us armys as is their music coz they always let us know the background stories and their mind sets .. we get to know it first hand from them and it makes the music even more interesting and enjoyable.
ARMYs totally understand, but I'll let it slide since he's new to BTS. Lyrics mean everything so I hope he eventually understand because he's barely scratching the surface of who they are as Artists and individuals. BTS goes beyond music and that's an understatement. #ARMYsince2014 💜
for someone who's such a professional and has so much experience with this type of stuff, you surely can't differentiate between a backing track and lip syncing...
Thank you. Someone who claims to be a video productions specialist but doesn't know when a video is Live or pre-recorded and says he is a songwriter but doesn't care about lyrics. This guy is a troll.😂
Thanks for your reaction but what? They are not lip syncing. Can’t you hear them breathing? Watch their lips and not for electrical cords (which by the way, there are a ton of cords behind the band) 💜💜💜
i agree with the edited claims. however, i can't agree with the lipsync allegations. and i read comment when you cleared out that you were not talking specifically about the group, but your wording in the video negates it. but im happy that you are still reacting to them. some army.. really give me second hand embarassment.
I appreciate the apology. If I'm being honest, this was not my favorite reaction. There were a lot of assumptions made at the beginning about being pre- recorded, no wires, no inner ear, and lip singing... With an open mind, I looked for guitar wires & piano wires, etc. Everything you stated wasn't there and proved it wasn't live was there. I was disappointed when you never paid attention to see that what you claimed wasn't true.
It’s really important to know the difference between assumptions and observations. The video WAS pre-recorded. I didn’t notice the wires at first, but then I stopped caring about the wires and never came back to it, so while I did notice it, I didn’t say it in the video. Sometimes I learn things while I’m editing (watching a second time), and it’s too late to re-film. That’s the nature of improvised first-timer reactions. Inner ear monitors ARE being used, and I never claimed lip syncing, I just said it’s a possibility since the video was pre-filmed and edited. None of these things were judgments-I frequently said they weren’t bad or wrong, they were just things I noticed. Yet for some reason, people are taking my words as criticism. Is it wrong for me to talk about what I’m seeing and hearing? Or does everyone expect reactors to just bob their heads and say nothing?
@@MidnightNotion No one expects you to bob your head like a yes man and say nothing as a reactor. The whole thing went downhill when you started looking for cuts,autotunes,saying their conversations were scripted, they were using teleprompter,there were no wires etc. Your thumbnail was literally "Is it really Live" just to stir the pot so you invited the toxicity. Your voice tone in the reaction was all wrong especially when you trolled Army... Like,how dare you?! You can say things but the problem was the WAY you said those things. Do better next time.
The thumbnail was a mistake, which is why I took it down. I thought it was conveying something different, and I was mistaken. It was never an intentional pot-stirring. I don’t do that (unless someone has personally attacked me first). It was the caption that came to mind while I was reacting, and I have already taken multiple measures to apologize for the miscommunication. That thumbnail put the wrong idea of me into many people’s minds, so they hate-watched the video instead of learning the real intent. BabyDoll, you are all over the comments section, and most of what you’ve said is a direct attack at me. I don’t recall attacking you, and I’m getting a little exhausted by it. I’d love to have a real conversation where you’re not accusing me of something malicious.
@Midnight Notion Your responses are very angry as if you're being attacked. Like you, I was stating facts based on what you said. It's fine for reactors to voice their opinions, in fact, most Army, me included enjoy honest reactions no matter what they are. The issue I had with your reaction, you made so many preconceived statements BEFORE watching the video and never corrected the things you were wrong about. You're defending your statements without considering how they were perceived. Thanks
@BabyDoll So glad to see I wasn't alone in how negative I felt this reaction was from the start. He never gave them a chance before he stated so many negative assumptions. Thanks 💜
I get you meant that it wasn’t recorded live, but that’s just stating the obvious. You don’t have to state something that’s already known. So because of that, most ppl took it as you saying they were not singing live and were instead lip syncing. They do not lip sync and never have from everything I’ve seen. They definitely use backtracks bc they do heavy choreo while singing, so that makes sense. There are multiple clips of them singing acappella and they sound almost identical to the study versions. Specifically speaking on Jimin, his voice usually takes most ppl by surprise. That is his natural tone and multiple vocalist have praised him for it. A vocal couch once described his voice as “sounding robotic” but in a good way lol. Again clips of him singing acappella are perfect examples!! Like other commenters have said, please react to Taylor’s “the bangtan 7” it will definitely provide more insight
I sometimes state the obvious because the obvious to me isn’t always obvious to others. For instance, I thought it was obvious that I was excited about production tricks and really loved this videos, but others seem to think it’s obvious I’m just doing this for views. Can’t win ‘em all, I guess, but my point stands: not everyone shares the same knowledge. Pointing out how things are edited is solely to help people learn how to edit their own things. That’s all. 😊
Hey, i really did like your reaction, i think it would be worth it to react to Taylors guide to BTS: Bangtan 7. It gives more insight on the boys and their journey. This performance was live, but edited so there may have been multiple takes, breaks in between etc. But the boys dont lip sync, its actually a running joke that they are terrible at it 😂 they do however have backing tracks during live shows, mainly coz they have pretty intense dance breaks, so the audio is helpful. And fellow ARMY, I've been reading the comments and it's been making me sad. Clearly he's not here to hate but to learn about them, and I feel bad that rather than simply correcting him if he's got things wrong some of you are being needlessly mean. Please be kind guys, Borahae!
@@MidnightNotion maybe re-listen, you did say at the beginning to go elsewhere where people might pay attention to their lyrics? i have to say that as a songwriter, it is demoralizing to hear that you are choosing not to investiagate the lyrics, particularly because BTS' lyrics have healed and saved so many. what would be the point of commenting on a Beatles song if you choose not to investigate the lyrics? if you watch Orig Explores docuvideo "you never walk alone" there is a testimony of how their sincere music inspired to investigate past a language barrier; they became a global beatles phenomenon singing in Korean, and many needed to deep-dive their lyrics because their healing power is so strong through their music, delivery, and many became STAUNCH fans BECAUSE of their lyrics mostly.
@@MidnightNotion You did say it at 1:39-1:55 time stamp. Check again. In fact,that was the first red flag I got from you ,a songwriter that is not interested in lyrics because his channel is not a lyrics channel? Really?! Immediately i knew you were in it to stir the pot and get views and engagements just like you already replied to someone in the comment section but you better be guided because if you come for BTS, Army will take your channel down. How can you be reacting to a video and the first thought is to find faults... Autotunes, scripted conversations,teleprompter,edits and cuts etc. This is the worst reaction to BTS on TH-cam and I'm NOT gonna bother with your channel again and so will so many Army. My advise to you since BTS is wayyy out of your league is to find small kpop groups and react to them. I know the temptation is high with BTS because of the views you crave for but you won't be getting form Army with this type of lame ass ingenuine reactions. I'm all for constructive criticisms and opinions but you only succeeded in showing your idiocy and nothing else.
This is the link to BTS showcase, which is their first live performance. th-cam.com/video/A5f_jDZCoqA/w-d-xo.html If you want to know more about them, I suggest Introduction to BTS: The Bangtan 7 by Taylor. Also for Edm rec, I think you’ll like Save me/ I’m fine live performance from BTS. About ARMYs comments, they are constructive criticism just like yours. A lot of ARMY are international, so their first language may not be English. You can’t often tell the tone and intentions in written word. So I hope we give benefit of the doubt to both ARMY and you.
I'm sorry for what I have to say but the instruments were all live with some vocal modifications because if you notice in the 2:53 minute when he sings v he should finish singing with the word in Korean but he didn't say it so people make sure that the performance was live and direct
they're clearly singing live and also the background singers and live band should make that more obvious however the video itself is clearly prerecorded as it's not a live concert with an audience I thought that was very obvious, they just called it live because they're singing the songs live not because they're doing a livestream
There are several introductory type videos for BTS members, and there is a really good Guide to Bangtan 7 by Taylor Mari. I would love to see your reactions to that.
I wish I could teach you how to hear what I’m hearing, but it’s hard to do over text. It’s quite obviously autotune (because human voices can’t make perfect waveforms), but the untrained ear doesn’t notice. I’ll try to make a video about it.
@@MidnightNotion it's just the layer of the song itself, and it's layered with Jungkook's voice recording, you can react again Run bts duara jungkook also layered jimin's voice
Just watch your reaction for this bts proof live... why you always had comments that bts MIGHT lyp sync.. 11 years their big career they NEVER LYP SYNC in LIVE performances... and so did this LIVE... if you didnt notice where were all the plugs etc.. dont jump to conclusion that they were Lip Sync... they work so hard.. blood sweat and tears to become the biggest boy band and become global superstar ...
The guy literally doesn't know that voices exist that sound like effect 🙄 like i remember in my country Voice there was girl, judges stopped her cause they thought her voice was autotuned. Then she sang acapella and it was literally her voice, it had such resonance that it sounded like echo or small delay effect
Before you attack me, you should know that I record voices almost every day, and I use autotune on them frequently. I know what both sound like. I highly suggest that if you don’t record or mix voices yourself that you learn to understand most vocals post-2005 are pitch corrected in some way, and that’s not a bad thing. When I say “this has been corrected,” it’s not judgment, it’s observation.
@@MidnightNotion This is the most vapid response I've ever heard lol. Appealing to your own anectdotal experience as some sort of objective barometer for whether someone is "pitch corrected" or otherwise. I know you think you're being very insightful but in reality you just seem snarky or (even worse) jealous and hiding behind your very pointed "observations". Let me pose you a question. For example, do Mongolian throat singers pitch correct/autotune their vocals? I ask this because they do sound it, but in reality the answer is more than likely no. They just have a style of vocalising that doesn't map onto whatever the average sounds/voices that singers make. Another question. If someone were to link you an acapella video of Jimin singing in basically the EXACT same tone and cadence, would you say this acapella singing is pitch corrected too? The answer is no, I hope. So if the answer is no, then not only do you look stupid but you have also thrown any experience you claim to have under the bus, and for what? To seem more learned than you are? To shortcut an argument you don't actually have in response to some random youtube comment? The truth of the matter is you have absolutely no idea what any of these guys' natural voices sound like to be making these back handed observations every few mins of the video. So in the future if you don't want to receive "hate" (lol) maybe do at the bare minimum a pittance of research.
@@tiffanyaltieri7467 word it kinda irks me that still after a decade and world renowned acknowledgement there is still the common misconception that they lack in singing abilities and their musical production is enhanced artificially when there is plenty of content and a discography that disproves that. In the west they are just marketed as some super poppy mainstream group because that’s of like 3 songs. Their lyricism and authenticity and pure talent is so rare that when it actually has manifested itself people refuse to believe it smh.
Its kinda sad that you focus on everything but things ARMYS love about BTS. Lyrics mostly. And you make too much asumptions. BTS are terrible at lypsyncing. They tried but failed. Even in MVs many times you can catch it. Mainly RM. He Is worst at it. And Jimins voice just sounds like this. Many things could be solved if you just watched guide... 🙄🙄🙄
it's my seven year hearing people call jimin's voice autotune. good job jimin~a! my next goal is to find someone who will call his moves cgi 😂
like fr tho for someone who been listening to bts for 10 years...I actually understand why he saying this..but yeah we grew up knowing that is how jimin sound...I see alot of vocal coach and producer said that how jimin sounds and that's how jimin vocal style was made kinda sooth me down...I'm not mad at him I knew bts sometimes do use auto tuned but jimin vocal itself sound like autotuned that's why when they used autotuned on jimin ppl thought that jimin voices really heavily pick up auto tuned...this remind me of that one Vietnamese guy who sings in his ig acc without anything like mic... and what crazy abt it he sounds exactly like he put auto tune on him while infact he didn't do anything or use anything😀
someone needs to recommend him some acapella jimin videos
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@@rosepedal5466 second this. sick & tired of people saying his voice was autotuned. He should try listening to Jimin singing acapella to know that he sounds the same.
This makes me laugh so hard😂😂😂
there's a thing called collective trauma which is a psychological reaction to a traumatic (recurring) event that affects an entire community
being not familiar with bts and army history and path you wouldn't know that there are a few pain points, so you just danced on one of them lol
we don't have them just because we are sensitive or worshiping them, but because there were years of oppression and hatred that both bts and army endured while trying to cheer each other up. if you think you know what kind of hatred a public persona gets, double that. I'm not joking, that's how it was. they are korean "boyband" with an underdog story, they've always been an easy target for hate attacks because there are so many aspects where you can put a stereotype on them when they are actually non of it. and then fans get the same level of hate just for liking them and trying to stand their ground for bts and themselves
maybe you didn't mean exactly what you said or you are ready to change your opinion about some words, I can't exactly know this apart from your pinned comment, but what is in your video is what it is, and seeing as you position yourself as a music professional, for us it means you hold authority in the people's eyes and thus responsibility because there will be people who will trust you alone more than all of us. we know by countless experiences that our opinion and knowledge are not taken seriously. so even if you ment other things, what people unfamiliar with bts or professional language might take away from your video is that they lip sync, auto tune and don't sing live in the most base and common understanding of it, that leads to such conclusions as "fake and untalented". even your thumb nail suggests that there's some tea spilled in your video and it will attract people who will take away only what they want to hear because you set them up for that. and for armys that thumbnail triggered them even before they saw the reaction itself, I promise you. however harmless you ment it, there are too many accasions when it wasn't, so you are bound to get a defensive reaction. that's actually probably my biggest problem with this video lol. in the end of the day your opinion is your opinion and I get it that you want to be honest. it's just as much as you know about music, you still don't know much about bts. and you keep watching them to learn more so thank you
I hope we can understand each other
I'm glad you enjoyed the performance and lyrics, see you next time 👋
You worded this really well I completely agree
This is the best, thank you. By someone else’s request, I changed the thumbnail. I didn’t realize it was as click-bait as it ended up being-I meant it to be about the filming, not the audio, and it set everyone off. That was a major mistake that I’ll regret for a long time.
I understand collective trauma. I have some trauma of my own, and I’ve also been into things that nobody else liked, that made people make fun of me. The thing is: every single one of my videos is meant to be a celebration of music. Sometimes a song isn’t for me, but I always take the time to point out what makes it rock. Being so genuinely interested in music, then being told I’m disingenuous and fake and a troll, etc… That really hurts. I worked hard to learn what I know and I want to share that knowledge. I wish that I could take my journey into loving this group without accidentally triggering people’s collective trauma, but apparently I’m not able to, because each new BTS reaction seems to set people off. 😞
@@MidnightNotion i personally don't think you are disingenuous, fake or troll, you really seemed to enjoy the time and music. i am glad that you didn't disregard the lyrics, even if it's not your focus, which is fine, my heart is calm because the meaning of their music was appreciated :)
i'd say no one loves to be called or imagined inauthentic. just like you don't want your viewers to think of you as a hater inside because you are not and it saddens you, armys are affected when it's implied in some way that bts are inauthentic in their performances or other public occasions, because there's a stong connection with them built on honesty and trust in each other. i'd call it one of the most painful spots, since bts come from kpop industry, all its flaws are looming over them in the mouths of media and hateful people, even though bts succeeded because they were everything that kpop wasn't. being called inauthentic, fabricated, manufactured etc etc etc is something that caused a lot of hurt to them too, first in Korea, then in US it was all the same all over again. i am sorry it all happened like that with your reactions
i don't know if you would consider a non music reaction? getting to know bts better, knowing where they come from and what they've been through might give more things to connect with the audience, but i'm not sure documentary type-like videos is what you're after on your channel. but if it is, for a general introduction to the group it's This is BTS Introduction to BTS by xCeleste, for their hardships briefly it's BTS HARDSHIPS 2013-2021 by xCeleste, for details on every member it's A Guide to BTS Members: The Bangtan 7 by Tailor Mari, and for detailed dive into their path since 2013 it's The Rise Of Bangtan episodes. just in case
whatever your choice is, i will be looking forward to your reactions, hoping the bumps on the road won't discourage you from discovering bts' music with or without us
@@MidnightNotion about the thumb nail yeah haha this are the kind of statements that we see often and behind it hides hatred masked as an "opinion". honestly when i saw it in my feed today's morning i sighed deeply and thought "not this again" 😄 couple of hours later i decided to watch it anyway to see for myself what's going on and i don't regret it. you enjoyed them, you was excited, you want to know more - go for it, not for everyone else, but for yourself
I love this comment
I don't follow BTS myself but why are you arguing with the band's fans? Usually the fans know these things. Yes you can see in ears being used which theoretically wouldn't be required if they were lip syncing for the video. What does BTS say about the shoot?
I’m not arguing. I’m sharing industry knowledge. I didn’t say they were lip syncing, I said it wasn’t live. That’s two different things. They probably performed each song multiple times, then edited it together in the best combo possible. That means “not in one take,” i.e., not live.
@@MidnightNotion Other than the fact that they weren't singing at the same time as we were watching them, (i.e. it was prerecorded) it was "live"( as in they were not lip syncing, and it was a one-time go). If it weren't a "live" performance of theirs' they wouldn't tell us so. Yes, I know that might sound corny to you, but the truth remains that THAT's the level of trust BTS and ARMY share. I suppose it's difficult for you to comprehend, given the Western pop music scene (particularly, American pop music scene) but that's what it is. I hope you keep your mind open and try to understand where the fans are coming from. It's been a tough battle fighting for the last 9 years along with BTS against both domestic and foreign forces (big companies, media controlled by them, prejudices of Korean people themselves against "idols", resistance to BTS in the West/America due to inferiority complex and insecurity, xenophobia) and after defeating all these, when you say they are lip syncing (you did say that) on a video they have clearly stated to be "live", the fans' reaction is understandable. I personally think most of the people here have been quite decent in expressing their disagreement with you. I hope my comment is not labelled as "toxic". I didn't intend to be anything near toxic here. Hope you continue reacting to BTS. For me, personally, it has been a privilege knowing BTS. I hope it can be yours too!
@@MidnightNotion 아니 대체 무슨 논리지?ㅋㅋㅋ
@@MidnightNotion My dude, check out a bit more from them and you'll understand why ARMYs feel the way they do in regards to their LIVE performances. You're new so it's totally understandable. They always Livestream with ARMYs to engage further so if you check out one of JK's, he'd do mini concerts for us and all you'll hear is his beautiful vocals coming through. They spoil us with so much contents and what you've just watched is barely scratching the surface of who they are as Artists and individuals. They go beyond music and that's an understatement. Welcome.
#ARMYsince2014 💜
@@MidnightNotionlive as in live vocals… no one is saying it was recorded in one go. We’re simply saying that they ARE singing live and there is no lip syncing going on
It's okay to not break down the lyrics. Just understand what they are saying. The drummer in Yet To Come was actually Anderson Paak, from Silk Sonic. He's good friends with BTS. Also, he has a collaboration on RM's new solo album. It's a bop, called Still Life. And that is Jimin's voice, not autotune. You will see when you get to know his vocals more. He has a very unique voice. This was a performance for FESTA, the celebration of their yearly anniversary. And they talked about their Proof album release. BTS does dance POP by the way.
It's pretty obvious that they are rapping and singing live. You can see all of the wires for their equipment at the back. Just because they are neat, doesn't mean it isn't plugged in. They always use wireless mics.
Hahahaha. BTS IS REAL. ! It's not an illusion!
while i do understand what you mean about pitch correction, I also just don't think you know what their raw voices sound like yet to be as condescending as you come of in the video even if it's not your intention. Jimin has a naturally high voice with a vocal fry and a tendency to stylistically drop notes at the end of a line, compared to jungkook for example who is more likely to hold them; they are very different singers with very different voices. despite what some fans believe bts' team does correct some content in post depending on what/where the video is being broadcasted and the people that do this sometimes do them a disservice because they don't sound bad live. Fans that have been to their actual concerts and shows can attest to that so I believe that is why we can get defensive.
Sometimes, even in the TH-cam reactor world, things are performed live/ recorded and streamed later, that doesn't mean people are lip syncing.
It seems to be very important to you that this is edited... you take every chance to point out anything that could prove it. If that's what you want so bad, then ok?? But that is actually Jimin's voice. Go ahead and check it out.
I make observations about production techniques so we can learn from them. Is that wrong?
@@MidnightNotion not to be rude but what are we learning ?what are you trying to imply specifically pointing out production techniques that could hint towards it being something it isn’t. I don’t think you’ve gathered up enough knowledge on the group to make objective comments on performance to say the least just a little hopefully constructive criticism ;)
Glad you enjoyed the video tho I anticipate future reactions
@@MidnightNotion No one will learn anything from you with the way you react to their videos.
I'm glad Army are giving the feedback you deserve.
I'll even advise you to look for small koop groups and react to them because BTS is wayyy out of your league.
As the "video productions specialist" you claim to be,your lame narratives were NOT backed up with facts.
We have so manyyy producers,videographers,editors,vocal coaches...specialists in all fields who react to BTS and none of them have been as offputting as you and your reactions.
From the "autotune" rubbish you spewed, claiming they were scripted and were reading a teleprompter,infact all your narratives really exposed your idiocy.
I advise you to watch Jungkook who is their Main Vocalist in this video "Jungkook doesn't need auto tune" by Ida.S
Also watch some videos about Jimin before you talk crap about BTS and their vocals or whether they use auto tune and don't sing Live.
Anyways,you just spared me from wasting my time on your channel trying to watch your cringy personality and lame reactions.
Au revoir.!
We’re learning that you don’t have to do something in one take-you can redo the song a couple times and edit it into something special. There’s nothing wrong with that, because literally everyone does it. By showing that even the best (BTS) does these things, we can be inspired to do it ourselves.
Not in my video, but one thing I noticed while editing: remember that track around the performers? I mentioned there was a camera on it that goes around them. At one point in the video, we are seeing footage from that track, and we can tell because of the angle it’s turning. The NEXT edit is to another angle from the same track, which means the song was filmed at least twice. That’s how I know they did multiple takes.
It’s not exposing them as false, it’s reminding people that these amazing productions take real hard work! We should all aspire to be so perfectionistic about our presentations. It’s incredible.
@@MidnightNotion I appreciate the commentary but be sure to express that in your video that part was unclear army’s have no problem listening to you pause and talk extensively about their performances or music however before you can dissect the art you have to understand the artists and their story. Nuance is everything, again tho I anticipate future reactions and glad you enjoyed this one 🙏🏾
Drummer??? .. that's Anderson Paak. OMG ...
they don't lip sync....even when 1 member missing, they didn't add anything and they never replace anyone, suga sometimes use autotunes, but they practice multiple times before show, and they sing live and record the video, and do double takes or 3 takes or 4 takes till it's perfect...
Even when their dance,, they don't lip sync..
they do sometimes lipsync but nothing wrong about it! a lot of groups do it specially those that also dance, but in this 7 years that i have been following them i havent seen a single live where they fully lipsync, they usually only lipsync chorus or parts where they have heavy choreography like in idol or ON, but still, is amazing to see that even being kpop idols, in a industry where almost everyone fully lipsyncs, you can still hear their real voices live!!
@@conivnce I dont think they lipsync they just dont sing..They let the backing track take over if they do hard choreos
@@conivnce They dont lipsync those parts. The backtrack is simply louder. But they dont lipsync. Check out serendipity, Jimin simply doesnt sing these parts where choreo is super heavy, they are not trying to fool anyone...
@@conivnce yo using backing track is quite different to lip sync. Backing track is played on the back with lower volume.
Look(or actually listen) at 16:07 mark of Bts 2020 MMA video just after the dance break of dynamite Jimin missed first line 🤣 if that was lip sync it should sound like rest of the song.
I HIGHLY recommend watching an intro to them...there's one by Taylor called A guide to BTS members: Bangtan 7 that's very thorough and updated for this year. You'll quickly see that they are true artists, genius lyricists, philanthropists, advocates, and not merely what you see. I think you'll better understand their music once you understand who they are as people.
Also, they always sing live, even while dancing super hard. They suck at lip syncing and can't even do it... it's actually hilarious. They also often have behind the scenes that prove the reality of their performances. Additionally, they openly talk about using auto tune for stylistic choices and will even state it right before a live performance to let Army know. If you want to hear their raw voices there are tons of videos to showcase that as well.
Excited for you to continue learning about them! Tbh tho some of the things you said in your intro "as a musician" didn't make sense objectively, and you asking what "type of Army we'll be" was pretty condescending and pompous, which is why I think others are not taking to you well lol. That, and your ridiculous mocking...I mean...impression* of an Army defending their voice at 22:30. You see, I'm pretty sure the people writing those comments don't sound like that, but what's more troubling to me, is that those with real speech impediments could very well be offended by your "impression." Just saying.
But hey, we're all human right? And let's be honest, some humans just weren't gifted with an endearing personality. I'm ultimately here for the positive tho, and I believe that once you see the caliber of human beings the members of BTS are, you'll definitely be inspired by them and their humility... maybe even changed for the better? :) Remember, self growth is a beautiful thing, as BTS openly exemplifies in every aspect! And apologizing for the offenses- def a great place to start.
🎤 drop!. He should watch The Rise Of Bangtan too tho. So he knows and learned.
I wish I can post the standing ovation Gif here.
You said everything that was needed and I applaud you for that. 👏
Love this comment!
You said beautifully 😍 👏 👌 ty 🙏💜
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Every artist does it? You can say lip syncing is fine, but I think you are well aware as artist in a live performance people inferring that lip syncing is occurring unless there is legitimate reason has pejorative connotations. I think it is important to point out instances you question if you are going to take that tack. After all, if the artist you are reacting to actually is not lip syncing you in essence have insulted their artistry. If you feel professional musicians are cutting corners, and you choose to bring it up, I think you owe it to your listeners to specify what made you say so. I think I am not being specific to BTS in my statements so please do not consider this ARMY on attack. My point is this is not Madonna doing a large costumed show which would lend artistic purpose to lip syncing so a comment which has negative connotations should probably be made with justifications if at all.
Ohhhh, I see what happened. I’m using industry terms and it’s all getting mixed up by my ADD reaction. Let me clarify:
When artists film a music video, they are lip-syncing to a pre-recorded track. That is what I meant by “every artist does it.”
This recording may have been recorded “live,” but the video editing tells me they may have performed each song multiple times, then edited it together to make the best video. When I say “it wasn’t live,” I mean it wasn’t filmed in one take.
I never meant to infer they lip-synced anything. It’s possible they could have, because of the multiple takes thing, but I never claimed to know that.
Hope that clears it up.
@Midnight Notion we have the same understanding of "live" No disrespect to anyone. My understanding of live whether the performance has mistakes or not it will be aired as such - I mean aired as it is. Sorry English not my fist language that's why most of the time have to explain myself again and again using different words to hopefully get my msg across. No hurt intended just the way I understand some stuff. Peace ✌️💜
I appreciate that you keep trying until someone understands you properly. That’s what I try to do too. Much love.
@Midnight Notion sorry to reply again ✌️ but yes you are right! terminology has different meaning to different people I guess. I mean if you are from the industry of production/behind the scenes/music industry using the term "live" "lip-syncing" is different from an ordinary viewer coz our minds don't work the same way. Just like a doctor(or professional health workers) and patients don't have sometimes same understanding of terms used. As viewers you have to understand where the vid reactor coming from. I have watched group of people - singers + drummers/guitarist reacting bts vid and both have different take of the vid coz one tend to react to his/her Forte or interest. The singer to the voices while the others to the 🎶 music. I do hope viewers get to distinguish the different takes of both sides without hurting the other. Peace ✌️ 💜
Omg sorry again for this long explanation ✌️✌️✌️
Have a good one to all 🌞🌠
I guess I am a tad confused. Lip syncing in music videos is extremely common. Lip syncing in performance more often than not can connote that an artist is pretending to sing due to an inability to perform without aid the back track actually providing non-sung parts while they mouth what is not sung. That said, the use of lip syncing can be done to allow a performance which unlike studio recordings, is unable to be interrupted to provide a fullness which an artist struggling to cover every vocal element might detract from.
However, I must say, BTS does not lip sync passages but once in a while allows strategic back track fills in their performance when it is perceived to augment the artistry. They do not pretend to mouth words while these occur but leave back track fills as recognizable artistic choices. I am unclear that I saw any of that during these three songs.
For me it is immaterial whether BTS filmed this in one or one hundred takes. I did not see where members were just moving their lips. I think conflating multiple takes or editing of a performance with lip syncing does have the pejorative implication for the majority of listeners who almost universally view lip syncing as moving of lips while not actually singing.
They are prefectionists, they don't do things like not sing live... 💜
Appreciate your comment, but if you're hitting every obstacle on this road, maybe it's not for you. No matter how tempting the numbers may be, participation is not required.
Yeah, had the same thought. And in the Black swan vid he said he really wanted to like them. I'm not sure how it is now as of current time, if he likes them or not. And maybe some songs grows on you, but you shouldn't force yourself to like something. Maybe some things arent youf taste and that's okay
ARMY have had conversations with the backup singers from this performance. It's live. BTS would never record a special "live" performance just for their fans (to celebrate their anniversary) and then lip sync.
How come you don't get a reply from him afterall he had replied to quite a number of comments trying to prove them wrong? I also read a commentor who lives nearby this performance venue and she could even hear them singing Live.
There are a lot of comments and I don’t always get to every single one. I work 50-60 hours a week outside of TH-cam, so please don’t judge me by my ability to respond. Other channels may not respond at all. I do my best to interact as much as possible.
Ali S, to your point: there is confusion about what I meant when I said “live.” I meant that the video was pre-recorded, not the audio. I mentioned they COULD have lip synced, but I did not claim that’s what they did, I just said that’s something other artists do.
In actuality, they probably performed each song 2 or 3 times, then edited them together to create this wonderful thing we see now. That means it wasn’t performed “live” as in it wasn’t performed the same way as a live show. They sang live, but the video was edited before anyone saw it.
Hope that clears it up.
@@MidnightNotionjust to clarify they didn’t lip sync this performance, just because they’re better than most people singing live it does mean that they always use auto tune or lip sync, they also have their variety show (in the soop) and it shows their daily life activities and they do just randomly sing while cooking or just sitting around, and there is jimin singing without a microphone just while sitting and you can hear that his natural voice in singing is really high just like the perf you just watched if you want to check it out the part when jimin is singing without a microphone just type in “jimin singing “don’t wake me up hobi” in the soop” he was singing something about not wanting one of the members to wake him up because he stayed up playing games and blah blah blah so if you really want to hear his natural voice check out that video it’s 1 or 2 minutes long so it wouldn’t hurt to check it out
I think there has been a lot of misunderstanding on this video, primarily in my terminology, because some words seem to be triggers for BTS fans, even when they’re not meant as an attack.
For instance, “lip sync” means “mouthing the words along with a recording,” but it can be done professionally (like in every music video) or it can be done unprofessionally (like Milli Vanilli or Ashley Simpson). The reason every professional artist lip syncs is because studio recordings always sound better than recordings in, say, a desert. So the pros often take a good studio recording and they lip sync it in the desert for a good visual, and then they get a really great final product!
That does not imply that a band CAN’T perform without lip syncing, it just means they care about quality. When I presumed they might be lip syncing, I had no idea so many fans would be upset with that idea, because it’s something nearly every artist does. They obviously sang the songs-that was never in question. They’re obviously great at what they do! I just like to try to spot what sort of audio and video production techniques are used, because that’s what I know most about. It’s fun for me to find those things, and I can’t really help it if people read my analysis style as hurtful. Anyone who thinks I’m trying to put down BTS is sorely mistaken. This band has been incredibly fun to explore.
@@MidnightNotion Just because some artist lypsync doesn't mean BTS lypsync they'd rather not sing a line than pretend to sing. In fact sometime's they'll move a mic away and stand still and here nothing there's no lyric at all. Other times they might be singing over their own voice and stop singing and you hear a faint version of their voice this sometime's happens in the hard choreo so if they have to miss a word or two to grab a breath you'll hear them breathing over a very muted voice track so you know oh he's not singing this bit this time he's out of breath. or it might just be one word they have to miss in order to get the air.
Him : There is a slight chance they're lipsync.
ARMY : We don't pay hundred dollars goes to their concert just to see their face🙄🙄🙄
FYI, BTS have try lipsync once before and fail terribly. So, they choose to sing it live with some back up track.
Edit : Wear your headphone to hear them clearly.. In that way, you can make better judgement.
Yes, in headphones we can to differ their prerecords and live vocals
Oh this was 100% live honestly those are actual live band in the background
I get that it sounds like Jimin's voice is autotuned, but it always sounds like that haha believe it or not that is his REAL voice, it's so unique 💜 also they sing live
All haters say like that and about JK's voice not just about Jimin. And still its their uniq voices. He just doesnt know how their voices sounds when there's no music
This reactor had been commenting that BTS doesn't sing live, auto-tuned, etc. since the beginning of his reactions to BTS. He even sounded condescending at times yet telling us he's genuine and professional.
Jimin voice is unique.. not many people can accept that esp condescending western “musicians”
lemme tell u they do sometimes put autotuned but jimin vocal is just unique by itself thats why it sound like a autotune...that's why when they put auto tune on jimin he sound like the exact autotune..I've been hearing jimin singing vocal since day one and till this day...jimin have his own style of singing..he creates that kinda sounds of him...to the point it kinda ruined his voices...bangpd always told him to to hit highnote to the point of strained his voices
Please don’t call me a “musician.” You can come after me for not knowing BTS, but my experience making music is not in question here. Thank you.
I've seen a few of your non-BTS videos, and I'm just gonna throw it out there: I dont think BTS is what you're looking for. Every video you've done on BTS has not gone well because there's certain elements you're not a fan of, and you have every right to be. But it does come off as you knocking off the artist. As a classically trained musician myself, I can tell you I understand what you mean when you get technical about their production or staging or singing, but you're also not being fair to the end result. A massive pop band is obviously going to be edited. It doesn't take away from fhe craft itself. There's tons of stuff out there of theirs that isnt edited or heavily produced but I'm not gonna recommend it because it's hard to change preconceived ideas. So thank you for rhe video, but respectfully please leave it here. Its not fair to your channel, and it's not fair to ARMYs.
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They all not just Suga have used auto tune but it’s more a stylistic choice not a necessary one. They all have great voices
It's pretty obvious that they are rapping and singing live. You can see all of the wires for their equipment at the back. Just because they are neat, doesn't mean it isn't plugged in. They always use wireless mics.🤔
You really need to stop looking at BTS in the eyes of western artist. We interact with them a lot more than other artists and fans do through lives and vlogs that go on for hours and hours in just a hotel room, and if they have rehearsed a speech for an official event that too is common knowledge for us cause we get the behind the scenes of them practicing and panicking😅
They have unique voices that you will hear more and more as you hear their songs🙂 and conversations
You need to watch the guide
I respect that you say what you feel
But you are sadly misinformed and may have a slight judgement based on western music bias. Remember that the Korean music industry is handled vastly different from the west. They go through years of training including hours upon hours of singing and dancing practice with the hopes of being allowed to debut and the fear of being cut. The boys trained to sing live and even sing while dancing by singing while on a treadmill. Also, they are ATROCIOUS at lip syncing. It's so bad that it's a joke within the fandom and BTS don't sing during performances sometimes to combat the lip syncing claims(mainly SUGA will purposely put his mic down when his part comes up), sometimes they have the crowd sing their verse, they mess up and mess up the lyrics sometimes or fall during performances and will one members voice is not doing well or starts cracking during performances another member will either take over their parts or will sing with them (in most cases it Jungkook). Of course I'm not blind to the fact that they have backing tracks and will use auto tune on occasion (for stylistic choices the majority of the time). But they are extremely hardworking and take their performances seriously they give their all ....... I really think you should check out "this is BTS" by xceleste and "an introduction to BTS members"
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Edit: also, I will say that don't take to heart the harshness that some ARMYS have, the boys have been through ALOT and the fandom has basically been right there beside them. Sometimes we get a little overprotective. It's been a long uphill battle and sometimes we just get exhausted and aggravated when people come at them or when if feels that way, without taking a second to judge if it's intentional or not. I understand that you don't know about them and you can only judge based of what you know and what you've seen or experienced. Hopefully other ARMYS keep that in mind. I look forward to seeing your BTS journey and your understanding of the group 🤗
I'll give you one comment because you want engagement.
Judging by the comments and replies, you don't seem to get the point why many people are upset. It's not the "observations" or "criticisms." BTS and Army get many of those. It's your tone and attitude. You're mocking, haughty, and nitpicking just to get a gotcha moment and they're not even gotcha moments in the first place. You give criticisms but you cry foul when Army criticize you back. Cant take what you dish out, huh?
Armys, don't waste any more time with this guy. Stop recommending songs. Stop trying to convert him or prove him wrong. BTS is still BTS regardless of what a TH-cam reactor says. We're only giving him engagement which will push him up the algorithm. This is what he wants. Clout. We need to stop giving it to him. You can delete all the views you gave to him by deleting it in your history. After that, block this man's channel. This way he won't show up in your recommendations.
Let's focus on streaming Joonie's new MV instead. 💜
If you read elsewhere you'll see that he definitely didn't mean to come across poorly with the thumbnail and also when he used that voice copying some fans. He's really open to feedback and cares about things.
Born Singer is actually a remake of J. Cole's song called Born Sinner from 2013. They recorded their version back in 2013 and had only performed it live twice before. Anderson .Paak is the drummer and he's part of the duo with Bruno Mars called Silk Sonic, he's also part Korean and his wife his Korean too. RM actually has a song on his new solo album called Indigo with Anderson .Paak called Still Life. Requesting performances can be tricky because it's hard to know what will be blocked or not. But their very first songs were No More Dream and We Are Bulletproof Pt. 2 which both came out in 2013. Here is a performance that came out right around the time they debuted th-cam.com/video/A5f_jDZCoqA/w-d-xo.html. These 2 songs also have music videos. Also the lineup in the last song For Youth (since they are standing) is from left and right is Jin, Suga, RM, V, Jimin, J-Hope, and Jungkook. I believe when you guessed for Yet To Come you got the last 3 mixed up. It was Suga, Jimin, and J-Hope on the end. If you really want to learn more about BTS and the members who should watch the video A Guide to BTS Members: The Bangtan 7 by Taylor Mari. It's a 47 minute video but trust me the time goes by quick. It tells you about each member 1 by 1 on how they became a member of BTS and more about their talents and personalities. Thanks for reacting.
Up for this. 🥰 I hope you do take time and get to know them more. We'd love to go on your journey.
This is live live. Anyone can hear their breath n we army know how different it sounds than studio version
hear me out, I'm a 33 year old ARMY, people don't hate your opinion, i think that was clarified already, you are assuming, they lip sync, you are assuming is all edited and also the use of auto tune, they don't, their dedication is beyond anything you have been exposed to with western music, these are not the backstreet boys, one direction, nor nsync, these men have raw talent that will amaze you, they have faced a lot of shit not just in Korea, but the racism and xenophobia in the US and other countries have put a huge wall up for ARMY, because we are tired of it, so if instead of making assumptions you actually get to know their talents and their dedication i promise you will understand, they have saved a lot of people from taking their lives, myself included, they are therapy to a lot of us, so of course we are not going to take certain comments lightly, we protect what we love.
LOVE THIS!!!!!
I hardly watch reaction videos but just came here to see if army are true or not. Nope not watching this guy. Didn't watch everything. Reading comments tells enough already. And was trying to understand have an open mind of him explaining jimin's part then the part followed of his reaction of army on 22:30. Sounds condescending much. But then it's army that he try to get views from. Hard pass.
He always sounded condescending and mocking when reacting to BTS. After watching his two reactions, it's enough to know his negative mindset about BTS.
@@emilyl1094 Right. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and watched 2 videos but no. Still not changing my mind. He just rubs off the wrong way.
I’m sorry I rub you the wrong way. I don’t think I can change your opinion of me, but I can wish you well and hope that when you make something genuine, nobody questions your motives.
It sounds like BTS and Army went through a real rough patch in the early days. That people were making fun of the band and the fans, and using them for views, and stirring the pot, talking down to, etc. It seems like that negative energy is still healing, and that when subjects of editing and autotune come up, they rip open old wounds. For anyone still willing to give me some grace, as a new fan, that isn’t my intent at all. My channel is supposed to be about the behind the scenes work for music and video production; to share what it takes to make something great. If you thought I was trying to call BTS fake or bad, I encourage you to listen closer, because I loved Proof live.
People have often commented that I should do more research before reacting to BTS. My challenge to them is that maybe they should do some research about me too. My history and my kindness and my passion all speak for themselves. Perhaps knowing me a little better will help you understand how sincere this video actually is.
Or, of course, you may decide to never come back. And that’s okay. I’m not for everyone. But I do, genuinely, wish you well.
Genuinely, I appreciate the reaction. I like seeing musicians and people from the industry/performers (aka people who have an idea of how this works and how they do what they do and not just hype people, which is a completely different side of reactors).
And I think people tend to forget that a lot of reactors don’t have any idea of what goes into productions like this. So when you hear something other than hype and positive stuff then there is this idea that they (the reactor) is attacking the boys. This isn’t the case, to ARMYs out there I genuinely don’t think you’re going to get the same kind of reactions as the hype people here. I don’t think that’s what is being advertised either. He is clearly trying to understand and learn about them not only as a group but as performers, he has a view into it several others don’t. So let’s keep it respectful okay? But to you, the channel owner and the individual doing the reactions I apologize that I don’t know your name. I don’t think you said it if you did I’m so so sorry! But anyways, I want to let you know that most of army is very very protective over BTS. Especially when it comes to people who don’t have a lot of “positive” things to say. (Funnily enough criticism is positive everyone I promise as long as it’s done in a constructive way, which is all I’ve seen from this reactor specifically). These boys have gone through a lot as artists and made it big through a lot of difficulty and they continue to struggle even to this day (because we are human it is normal). We’ve seen a lot of people try to use them, criticize without being constructive and look down on them for superficial aspects. We’ve seen their artistry and their hard work really be joked about and called music for teenagers. When it’s not the case.
So in all, I’m very sorry some people have been rude to you. You don’t deserve it when, at least I can see, there’s a genuine desire to learn there.
ARMY - please be kind to those who are just learning. It’s very different from any other kind/style of music and for those not introduced to it negativity can be very off-putting.
And, it’s also not for everyone either. So if he doesn’t like something, he has a right to his opinion.
Be kind all 💜💜💜
Hi, I’m Bryce. Thank you for this. It means the world to have viewers like you who can bridge the gap between me and the rest of the viewers. My only intent was to have fun. 😊
@@MidnightNotion and I hope you did! You were saying some really great things that I didn’t know about. So I’m taking that away with me! But, I do want to encourage you to listen to more. Even if you don’t film and react to it (I know someone not wanting content for themselves wowow) but, I think that’s entirely up to you as well. I understand that these videos and videos like these do well, so if you want to do it then I think before going any further there are some videos you should watch just to understand them better as a group and a unit and what their message is.
Their story is super interesting and there’s some really big highs but really big lows as well.
I know I’ve seen it suggested already. But the xCeleste videos are wonderful, she does a great job of explaining not only through the fans eyes but also showing facts and data on them as well.
But if the negativity is too much or making the journey less enjoyable for you? Then I wouldn’t post it, because as much as I would love to know and see you come to enjoy them (if that’s how it goes), then of course I want to see it as a fan as well. But your mental health is important too. If it’s too much then don’t do it. But I do encourage you to look into them and Kpop as a genre on your own time away from a camera. Because even if we don’t see it, you still get to connect with the songs and the lyrics if you want without fear of a literal ARMY coming at you. Because it’s a lot, and the reality is that not everyone is going to hype bts not everyone is going to like every single song it’s just not how that works.
I’ve been a fan of them since late 2013, and as an international fan that was super hard for me. Because Kpop didn’t really get big until 2017/2018 here in the west (from the US). So I understand the want and sometimes need to defend the boys but I really don’t think it’s coming from a place of maliciousness.
All in all, thank you for the reaction. I’ll be back for more content. Subscribed.
@@MidnightNotion Ok I hope the reaction to the guide is next. And it won't take two months again for it. I admit I am a person who has doubted your intentions here but I admit that when people are ignorant of who BTS is they tend to have preconceived notions that cloud their judgement so you are not the only one. I actually appreciate reactions like these because I get to see people realizing that all those pre conceived notions do not apply to BTS. If you want the link to Taylor's guide let me know. I'll provide the link.
What you heard when Jimin was singing is a backing track but this was definitely sung live, they use backing tracks in some parts but you can clearly hear their voices.
Can you clarify please?
@@sc33h3o3 not the person you're asking to but: BTS uses a lot of voice layering on their songs, in their studio versions. Sometimes, for their live performances, the member sings one of the layers (not always the one that on the studio version would be considered as the "upfront" or "main" layer) and the rest play in the background (edited for Grammar and spelling)
So you ask for fans to think "what kind of fan am i" but then at 22:30 literally mock us? You should reflect on yourself and not delete comments, cause you come off as insecure in taking critics
I don’t delete comments. And at that time stamp, I was mocking people who don’t know anything about autotune, but then try to tell me-a professional audio engineer-that my trained ears don’t know what autotune sounds like. Some Army like to yell about things that aren’t real, and I definitely think that’s silly. But if you thought I was mocking serious fans, you are mistaken. I’m here for the conversation, not for people screaming at me about how wrong I am about provable things.
@@MidnightNotion mocking is mocking, doesn't matter who it is. If you just said it normaly: oh, it is his voice they say ..and you did: oh, iTs His vOiCe ThEy sAy... it's a mockery and fans who say that are not purely "defending" Jimin, we have 10 years of experiencing his voice change, how hard he trained his voice and you claiming being music professional should act like one: oh, i might be wrong but is sounds like they did small effect on the voice to pitch correct...your whole video was made trying to find lipsync, cuts, fakeness, if this is what you are for, than sorry it's the wrong band to react to
BTS are such high level if professionals that everyone in the industry are deeply amazed by that.
Again, mocking any type of fans is not ok, only if you want to appeal to the BTS haters, then by all means go ahead
@@AlexaOleksa Thank you for educating him. I wish I can post a standing ovation Gif here.
You’re right, @Sasha. Mocking is mocking. It isn’t right, and I should be more careful with my sarcasm. Most viewers don’t know me or my heart, and cannot tell my intent on the first view. Thank you for that reminder.
My BTS reactions tend to draw out a LOT of hate and judgment about me and my character. I’m a human and an empath, so I take it really hard. I never expected so much hate for a video where I was really into the band, but I got a lot of it last time, so I created a voice for the people who upset me. Unintentionally, the good Army took offense to it, and that’s my bad. So sorry.
@@MidnightNotion even I at some point had many realizations/epiphanies that my fan experience, someone who discovered them/their greatness in June 2021, is very very different from fans who have been there from much earlier or the beginning (2013) when BTS went through so much (they still do get mocked and *marginalized*) and who also as fans have gone through a lot more than me (it's easier to get made fun of or looked on as weird for being a fan if they've been Grammy nominated, whereas many fans had it much worse for years and have had to educate others around them with even louder voices).
*When they are not put in Spotify playlists by genre and only put in kpop playlists to keep them from competing*
*When my mtv vma's kpop, billboard global ex award categories keep them from outshining Western acts by keeping them separate*
*When billboard increases the importance of radio play (bts' area of disadvantage) in charting numbers to make it harder for them to keep outshining Western artists*
I can't imagine being a fan through BTS' times of major struggles.
You might be encountering a few weary warriors is my point?
The apology explanation but then joking about negative engagement in one of the comments? Do better next time. Maybe do XCeleste intro to Army first. You’ll learn a lot .
The reason people were so quick to get upset is because multiple ppl have done reactions to their performances just to try to prove they don’t sing live and they aren’t as good as ppl make them out to be. Just quick to find anything wrong and have a “gotcha” moment. While that may not have been what you were doing, it came off that way.
ARMY don’t engage this man he is using BTS to get views. He is condescending and has no interest in learning anything about BTS. He is being disrespectful in the first minute. Please don’t waste your time.
I am specifically reviewing BTS because of the amount of people who asked for more. I am sometimes sarcastic, yes, but I am thoroughly enjoying the group so far, and have never meant disrespect. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
@@MidnightNotion Now if you react to Taylor's guide it will be my last chance I give to you. Stop saying nonsense about JK's and Jimin's voices because as I told you in previous videos we have heard them sing without any music whatsoever and they sound exactly the same. Stop saying you are a professional and know better than us when you sound ignorant and prejudiced at best. Trust us to know better and actual music critics and professionals who have said countless of times praises about their voices. Noone will take you seriously because unlike you we have been with BTS for years some of us even pre debut. We know perfectly well their voices. More than a self proclaimed "professional" like you.
I have watched all three of your BTS videos and have enjoyed them. An average fan doesn't have much clue about music production. I know I don't, which is why I prefer watching reactions of actual musicians and singers because I often end up learning something new. With that said, keep in mind that word 'autotune' and 'lip-syncing' are generally perceived negatively so you're bound to have knee-jerk reactions. I honestly don't have an advice for that, I feel like you shouldn't feel like you can't state facts just because someone might misunderstand.
One thing I will point out is that there's no need to mock ARMY. It's only going to create more negativity and ultimately we're all your viewers. If you intend to continue doing BTS videos it's best to just ignore the hateful comments, don't even engage. I honestly don't know why people are getting so triggered. While it's true that we as a fandom have a collective PTSD, I think it's mostly just a lot of misunderstanding happening. With that said, I wonder if BTS is a good match for your channel. BTS, and kpop in general, is not only about music. The visuals, staging, choreography and outfits are all just as important and create this audio-visual experience. That is because korean pop music developed during TV era and so by focusing on music only you're focusing on one aspect of what makes BTS great. I'm not criticizing you, just trying to explain why some viewers might find this frustrating.
Also, it was quite hilarious watching you try and analyze lyrics for Dynamite in the previous video like there's some deep wisdom hiding there😂 It's true that BTS' lyrics can go really deep but it doesn't apply to every song and most of the time you're not going to catch it just by reading a translation. Sometimes It requires a lot more digging into Korean culture, history, social climate, classic literature, psychology and understanding slang which is not even going to translate well.
Can I suggest you watch an introduction video by Taylor for your next video? It's lengthy but it'll help you familiarize yourself with the members, their particular talents and roles within the group and it also has little snippets of their solo songs.
Okay, I already wrote a whole essay here when you already have 500+ comments, sorry. I'll leave you with a quote from one of RM's recent songs 'Still Life' (it features Anderson Paak btw, you might like RM's album now that I think about it): "Don't listen to the haters, it'll hurt your ears. It's always the fools putting their lives on the line for the online."
you dont know crap it’s actually hilarious
You’re right, I don’t know crap. Who is crap? Wanna introduce me to them?
Omg, they do not lip sync. They are famous for that fact with their live performances.
Guess you didn't hear RM announce Anderson. Paak on the drums in the second song. Anderson and Bruno Mars are the award winning duo Silk Sonic.
I can tell that you are the kind of person who could really appreciate BTS for their music and artistry, even if you don't like all their songs. RM just came out with a solo album and he has been getting high praise for his lyricism, introspect and ability to adapt to different genres. It's called Indigo if you wanted to check it out.
If you listen to the audio version first, the actual tracks on music platform, you can tell the differences and understand why people are correcting you about your doubt of them not singing live.
you must not be an actor cause if so you would know what a prodigious talent it would take to lip sync so perfectly, eg Suga's eyelids clamping down during his rap in Born Singer lol. Also I don't think Grammy winner, creative genius Anderson Paak is going to be part of a production where people are lip syncing. The background singers apparently reported that Jin especially is a "CD eater"
yes! there are so many things that makes it obvious that it is sung live. one example is during joon’s part “let the the haters hate on me”, he missed “the hate on me” part. how is that even possible if it’s lipsynced? they keep adding adlibs here and there and saying stuff like “let’s go j-hope!” and jungkook’s line during for youth is also done differently everytime he performed it. if you have listened to the original versions, it is instantly recognizable that they are singing live.
Everyone is really focused on the lip syncing thing-I legitimately do not recall saying they lip-synced the whole thing. Can you help me understand why people are so focused on this thing I don’t think I even claimed?
@@MidnightNotion i'll watch **again** it to try to help you answer this, but a big part of this is that in huge letters in the intro frame it says "IS IT REALLY LIVE?" which in a way is a bit "irregular?" most reactors are not so concerned about this that they would choose to put that on their intro frame? so if definitely seemed like YOUR ENTIRE GOAL of watching the video, and the main objective for your watching was to ascertain the answer to that question, so many felt inclined to respond. those of us that watch them in live concerts, in person, and watch live stuff REPEATEDLY, and many versions of live concert footages AGAIN and AGAIN (yes we're repeat watchers in the dozens of views depending lol), we know that they are uncommonly great at being able to sing while dancing, uncommonly great at not straining while singing to where some can be skeptical. like was said elsewhere, watch concert footage, various fancams, especially from Seoul if you need proof of how good they are at singing live.
@@MidnightNotion it is so obvious they're not lipsyncing, you can hear breathing at times, and we know our guys' faces, so everyone is just trying to help you bc answer the question you wrote in big capital letters in the intro frame :)
**again**
BTS's debut song is called No More Dream and it was released in 2013, you can watch it with eng subs on 1theK channel.
Lmfao hopefully in a month or two if you decide to go down the bts journey there will be some growth and we can all look back and laugh at the ignorance in this video
I think you would really enjoy watching some of Jungkooks VLive videos! He goes live and just sings into the camera while people watch in real time, and it’s so cool!
Agree. In the previous video he kept saying JK was using Autotune. There are hundreds of videos of him singing on Vlive or a capella if he takes the effort to look for them instead of just assuming they aren't that good...
Nobody assumed autotune makes someone not-good. It’s an effect, not a make-someone-better button. I said they used it. I didn’t say they needed it.
The Drummer is a Grammy Winning Musician, Anderson Paak. Surprised you didn't know him.
I don’t follow a lot of new music-hence the reason I’m switching genres every week. To learn more. I can’t possibly know everyone who has ever won a Grammy, but I know him now!
@@MidnightNotion He is an OG, and a really famous drummer. No Judgment, I was just surprised. Because he is really huge, maybe it's the Genre R&B, Soul, Hip Hop lots of black Music. I know people tend to stay in their Genre a lot. That's so cool about BTS, they recently do some Solo stuff, because they have to do their Military Service it's sadly mandatory in South Korea. Anyway, J-Hope of BTS recently made history and gave Lollapalooza the biggest Crowed in History and was the highest selling Artist ever. His Album is also the 9th best Album of 2022 by the Rolling Stone, his solo stuff is a bit grungier, maybe you check out his Performance there, here is a link th-cam.com/video/6ak5yOmj8W8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=BANGTANTV
here his is a little medley he did, maybe the whole performance is too long for you. Or check out his Title Tracks MORE and ARSON th-cam.com/video/H1m3P0MWkMc/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=BANGTANTV
Please watch THE GUIDE TO THE SEVEN MEMBERS from Taylor Nakamoto
Ah here it is. 🥰
It's now Taylor Mari, she changed the channel name. But yes that is such a good introduction video.
After he mocked us like that? Nah, he can piss off
New watchers always assume Jimin uses auto tune😂 that's his natural voice you'll discover that yourself later on watching more of their contents. AND they don't lipsync.
his voice is always a surprise hahahah
Jimin voice sounds like that naturally ffs 😭..we've heard him singing without any music, straight acapella, recording in studio HUNDREDS of time..he ACTUALLY sounds like that..that's why his voice is categorised as one of the most unique out there.
Pls stop blaming us for calling u out on ur blatant accusations on their artistry atleast do ur proper research before that.
th-cam.com/video/dn5hUE_9m68/w-d-xo.html really Jimin's voice is really like that, you can check Jimin singing without music, that's the link😭😭😭😭🤧🤧🤧
As someone with performance and recording experience (classical violin 👋🏻) I can say with certainty that every live performance is edited to some extent. No matter how good your performer is, you cannot compete with the wind or other background noise factors without a little outside help. When Yo-Yo Ma and Itzhak Perlman performed for one of the recent Presidential inaugurations, they relied heavily on a backing track to get them through an outdoor DC concert in mid-January, and that was for an actual live performance... imagine what editing can be done when the live concert was pre-recorded and released at a later point!
Editing itself isn't bad, performing with auto-tune for effect and with a backing track for safety isn't bad, but ARMYs have come to consider it a trigger because of unfair and untrue accusations that keep cropping up during BTS's career...mainly that there was no way their performances could be so good without it having been edited, lip-synced, etc. There was even one concert where Suga skipped rapping his line entirely to prove that he wasn't lip-syncing and that there was no vocal backing track behind him. I'm an ARMY and I love and admire BTS, but from a musician's standpoint I can understand that you were only trying to explain some of the technical aspects of production... you just happened to hit a few sore spots for us, given BTS's history. I hope this doesn't scare you off from reacting to more BTS and sharing your musician knowledge with us!! (Their lyrics really are quite poetic and deep, but many of them are references to literature or philosophy or in-jokes with fans that would require more explanation than a simple translation can give you.)
and to the ARMYs here, pls let this reactor share his honest and respectful opinions with us. he's as new to it as we all once were, you can't expect him to know everything all at once. remember what BTS told us in UGH!: "There are tens of thousands of reasons to be raging / Good will and evil will, all the very same / I can rage, but if there were to be damage done / To others' lives, I don't like (it)"
As long as you aren’t disrespectful, ARMY won’t be rude to you. If you continuously make wrong assumptions or sound condescending, people will be frustrated.
What if you continually make guesses about the things you’re seeing and hearing for the first time, and some of them are wrong, but you never claim to know the truth, yet people misinterpret your excitement for the adventure as being condescending and judgmental? Then what?
Bro I know you're being respectful, I'm not being angry but just giving you another angle of thought. I've also been working as a sound engineer (up to you to believe me or not feel free). You would normally assume his voice has pitch correction on post but I also listen to him singing Acapella. And his voice actually does that, it's really interesting, it's like he forcefully jumps to one note to another. Even when he does runs, he does it quite forcefully. That is why jungkook the other member does the runs quite often since his voice is gentle with runs while Jimin usually sings lead. I mean it's understandable why you thought that way but working with a lot of vocalists made an impression on me that there can be a lot of voices out there some are really peculiar ones. I know ofc big performances like these have on post productions, cuz I am also working on the field but you should also know that there are actually people that have voices like that. Ofc there are parts where there are tampered but totally not the parts that you were pointing out, since he naturally sings that way. But ye that's all I wanted to say. Other than that great vid.
Ps. I liked your reaction, keep it up. Long messages like these does not imply Im being mean. It just needed a lot of words to get the point across. Either way best of luck.
Hey! Welcome! For the record: I do not read your comment as mean. Thanks for the response.
I’m glad you’re in the field of audio production. Maybe that means we can actually talk this one out! Step 1 is the following short video. Will you watch and tell me if you can hear the difference?
th-cam.com/video/V6OTN3y62nE/w-d-xo.html
To me, it’s crystal clear. Some say they can’t hear it, and I would typically say that’s because they don’t have the ear training that us engineers have. Maybe you’ll be able to identify it better?
@@MidnightNotionhmmmm of course it's obvious? Even if u don't have any music background but have listened to any artist for long enough u would be able to tell what they sound like w or w/o autotune...
Okay so I'm not angry or anything but please hear me out....
The thing about jimins vocals specifically is that the placement is different that what mainstream musicians do....
It's like trying to listen to and arab singer and having no idea where the sounds are coming from, if ur not familiar w it, it would sound artificial since it's not comprehendable to what ur used to.... This song specifically (for youth) has some behind the scenes footage of jimin singing it every 3 seconds while they had a shoot (lol he just loves it), the vocals sound even more autotuned even though they were in the background and he had no mic on and others where talking over him...... I think the only way for u to understand what armys are trying to say is to listen to him singing or humming acapella cuz really his voice is crazy.... Btw even tho we're talking about him a lot, this is not go say he has conventionally "perfect" vocals, he's the one who struggled the most with singing since his voice didn't work well with "normal pop techniques" so he had to develop his own singing style that suited his voice qualities
So again, I understand where ur coming from really, but as other said in a harsher tone, it is true that most armys have acquired a great music knowledge to understand basic stuff, so most of them know what they're talking about, they're not protective for the sake if making the guys seem perfect, but for the fact we know they aren't, we've seen them struggle amd we've seen them succeed, we're not just simply trying to tell u that ur wrong, but simply most of them are frustrated by how easily their knowledge and experiences are being undermined and overlooked......
Again I did enjoy the vid and I do hope to see more from u, ik ur trying to be open minded, but u'll be utterly shocked to see what ppl can do with their voices not just BTS, also if u can't tell I'm not talking about jimin hitting the high note, but how artificial and potentially robotic he might sound, a vocal couch once compared his acapella to as if someone is speaking into a talk box , it sounds crazy ik, but it does sound like that acapella too so yea💜💜
You are right, the lyrics from yet to come are exactly like that, and the lyrics from the last song are for Army, and the begging of the song actually is army singing "FOREVER YOUNG" in their Webley Stadium
Everyone is going to have there own opinions and that's fine but one piece of advice moving forward, do not use that awful mocking voice. It really is offensive and unnecessary 😒
Noted. Thank you.
Serious question..Not this paticular performance but why do BTS just stop singing in concerts if their throat hurts when they can just lipsync to the song?? There are also instances when they go off key and has voice cracks when performing live..Are those lipsync too??Did they record voice cracks, their laughs, some shouting, adlibs and then lipsync to it?? If it's really posible to correct the pitch of their voices why did they didn't do it to hide voice cracks during live performances??
I'm not saying that BTS are bad performers since they are the best for me but I'm confused if they really lipsync or used pitch correctors why do these small incidents still happens?
If you ever need help just ask me or any army in here. There is a guide that introduces each member of bts it's updated from may 2022 its literally so helpful I promise you you'll get to know more about the group and individual members as well. The guide is by Taylor.
Not live? Lol, never! Why? BTS... never... just know our boys are even better LIVE!!
You say lip syncing yet their voices are coming out of their mouths into the mics. So condescending AF and Pure comedy for this entire reaction segment
This was filmed live as an online show for the Army's. And if you listen to the studio version and more live videos you can hear the difference if you're a musician with an 👂
It was filmed, yes, but did it air at the exact same time as it was being filmed, or did it air later? Because that’s what I’m talking about in the video. If there was time between the filming and the debut, then it wasn’t LIVE, it was pre-filmed. As a musician who performs live AND does recording, I’m very used to the difference, and this sounds edited to me.
How can you be a musician and still cant differentiate btw live ,lipsymc and prerecorded singing?not demeaning u or something but this is obviously live,and yeah the use some backtrack and prerecorded vocals sometimes(one two lines),but this is completely live
There has been a massive misunderstanding of my meaning. When I said “it’s not live” I meant FILMING, not singing. Of course it’s sung live, but they did multiple takes and edited it together to create something more appealing.
yes it live they suck at lipsyncing rm said its hard for him
I usually read the comments first before watching new reactors.. but this doesnt look good 😅😮
lol that was not autotune, that's jimin's real voice🥲you can watch ALLLLL jimin live vocal.
and they did not lipsync.
Waaaaaah! Jimin’s voice is auto tuned in the whole of the song??? according to him…
That Paak on the drum. You know, Anderson Paak... THE Anderson Paak.
Most of us understand that you are commenting as an industry pro who knows the secrets of putting on shows, and appreciate the insight. Remember that a lot of fans are extremely young, or simply more invested in the show than the business. I'm pretty old, but still remember a period in my life when nobody was ever going to convince me that John Lennon did not actually bury Paul McCartney. If you're too young to get the reference, look it up heh heh heh... Don't get too offended if some fans don't enjoy having tricks of the trade explained to them. They just won't accept the fact that every mic in the world has processing (and yes, those mics are extremely good - Sennheiser SKM 6000. This is a South Korean group so you can be sure they are using state-of-the-art-wireless). Don't take it personally when some of them attack. That kind of fan does that kind of thing to everyone, and we don't actually claim the rude ones. I've seen them flame someone for mispronouncing a name - when we all know dang well they were butchering it too a few months back. Just ignore and block. That's what we do.
That being said, BTS really are different. It has been widely reported by TV producers in South Korea that they need very little to no backing tracks when performing live. They are kind of legendary in the tv show world for dropping a word or two intentionally to prove they're really singing. Another way to tell is they're for real by watching a music video. They are just terrible at lip syncing, especially Suga. Because they only do it then. It really is hard to believe anyone can dance and sing the way they do. Most of us understand the skepticism, and are just patiently waiting for you to see enough evidence for yourself. They do use prompters at live concerts, like everyone else.
He had been commenting a lot on the technical aspects of BTS performances which I'm sure not all but most of the Western and other countries artists had also done the same for their stage performances, etc. At times, he sounded condescending and seemed to "watch out" for their flaws on every reaction since the beginning. It made us feel that BTS is not his cup of tea and he was nick-picking thus, he didn't give himself a chance to enjoy their music production.
@@emilyl1094 Yes I picked up on that. But plenty of others covered that so I did not need to repeat any of it. He will learn that he was mistaken like everyone else. Give him some time. he's in the 'brat' stage of skepticism. Just like teens, they grow out of it. The one thing many are irritated about was the way he criticized the sound engineer. Too a non-pro it sounded like he was criticizing Jimin's voice, but really he was bugged by the way the sound guys programmed the mic. A person who isn't in the business can't hear the effect, but really nobody should be able to tell. There should only be just a touch of processing, and they were laying it on too thick. That does not serve a singer as naturally talented as Jimin at all.
This reactor forgot that regular people don't know things like this. It's the same thing when a non-K-pop person starts comparing members to each other or to other singers/rappers. They don't know that we don't do that with K-pop groups or soloists. So we have to explain so they will stop.
There is nothing wrong with politely pointing out the off-putting tone or correcting misconceptions and wrong assumptions. And if he moderates himself, there's no reason to cancel him. He does have interesting things to say. A good reactor learns that there is a level of politeness expected in South Korea, and that expectation exists in our fandom, too. So we have to show it as well as require it.
Just here to watch how annoying your reaction can be. Confirmed it. Thanks for reacting. Plz continue.
This is my first time watching him and I can't stand him. It seems his reactions has always been wack just like this one.
He should just leave BTS alone and react to small kpop groups within his league.
ANYWAYS GUYS!!!! Stream BTS! Here to break more records 🤪
Gees!!! The cringe only gets worse with this one with his every new reaction to BTS. As he puts it at the end "No Surprise"!!!! Once again his inherent need to undermine the Boys under the pretext of "analyzing" the performance is really turning into an irksome attempt at "wanting" to know more about BTS. Just drop the act and move on to someone else. We will all be saving our time and energy that way. Thank you!
Wait… When I said “it’s no surprise,” I meant that BTS did an awesome job, because *of course they did*-they always do. Did you take that as a problem?
Of course you did! Your condescending , patronizing snarky jibes are so very innocent that they almost had some of us. I have seen many reactors openly claim that BTS is not their cup of tea and I actually appreciate their honesty , they did not beat around the bush... straight up not their kind of music... end of that. But You Sir are on another level. No amount of smiling and giggling through your remarks will convince me that you are genuinely interested in anything the Boys have put out there. I have said this before and I will say it again ...Your mind was already made even before you started.
A lot of reactors don’t have any credentials-they’re doing it just for the views. I understand why those people would make you upset because they are using your favorite band for views, and no matter what they say, it helps their channel.
The irony here is that *you* made up your mind about *me* before you started. You assumed I was here to attack or slander the band from the very beginning, so you picked apart my words to find everything wrong with them, instead of actually understanding what I was saying. That is called confirmation bias, and I’m sorry you were able to find so much proof of maliciousness, but you need to understand the difference between reality and your imagination.
I have credentials. I record music almost every day. I work with vocalists, and I get paid for it full-time. I also write songs and perform live in front of paying audiences. I am also a filmmaker and video editor, so I have a unique perspective that few other reactors have.
So other reactors might not point out autotune because they don’t know what autotune sounds like. Other reactors might not point out how videos get edited because they hire someone else to edit their videos. When *I* point out something is edited, it’s not because I think it’s fake, it’s just because editing is something I know really, really well-again: because I do it every day for a living.
Nilufer, your comments make you seem like an angry person. You have accused me of mean things and called me names and have spent a lot of time telling me that I’m cringey. You use exclamation points, which (at least in the west) makes it sound like yelling. By contrast, I am using periods and instead of attacking back, I am explaining myself. I know in my heart that if you had watched my videos with an open mind, you would have seen a man discovering something new that he enjoys.
Because I do enjoy BTS. I have been listening to them more since this video. So let the haters hate on me, it's their job. When you play with the keyboard, I've made my career. 😉
So you don't think they're singing live based on...? You think RM is reading off a teleprompter based on...? Amazing how their microphones aren't picking up the wind so they must have some amazing system...sarc. Jimin is being pitch corrected because he's hitting all of his notes individually? Jimin ALWAYS hits his notes like that. So, Rocker Reacts, I always try to give new reactors a chance., but I'm going to make an exception in your case and I hope other ARMYs will ignore you. You make negative judgments with zero information. You mock them and think you're being clever. In other words, the only reason you're doing this is to get an audience. ARMY is smart and they'll see through this immediately.
I don't agree with this comment, I think he is so open to learn from everything, and to give feedback from what he already knows, (it may not be accurate but sincere, and I, myself prefer that than watching other reactors overreact and fake emotions just for the views) so are we teaching him or just judging him?? when did he mocked the guys? this is the kind of comment that make me wonder if we are trully listening to people.
I can tell he has a lot of experience on producing and music just by listening to him, and I love lo learn that professional insight of what is happening behind the scenes in BTS videos, but because of this comments he doesn't feel comfortable reacting to BTS even tho they are worth the reaction and they are amazing vocalist and musicians. So be smart army and be more patient.
Of course I know that Jimin can hit those high notes and even higher with his natural voice and without autotune, maybe he was rigth and this time there was something correcting his voice, so it could sound smooth, we don't know. The point is that he is still learning and us too. I think we have much more things to learn from him than all this complaints you are discussing about.
@@allyquintero7981 you must be new to the whole reacting to bts scene
@@allyquintero7981 We as Army has nothing to learn from this guy. I agree with everything Sandra said,you may disagree,it's up to you but this guy's reaction is offputting.
I'm not here to argue with you because I've seen your other comments defending him which I clearly don't understand.
Also,That someone is hyped when reacting to BTS or anything else for that matter doesn't make them fake,it could be the person's personality,just saying.
This guy just said he wants engagements so he obviously stirs the pot with the lame things he says to get a reaction and engagements from Army.
I trust everyone will ignore him and his channel.
Thank youuu @sandrayoung233
I agree with everything you said here.
@Ally Quintero thank you for being here. I appreciate you.
@BabyDoll I am a human, just like you. I have faults and I make mistakes. I also spend a lot of time making reactions that my subscribers have requested. I don’t do things for the views (most of my videos barely break 200), and I don’t troll for engagement. I DO make a point to respond to as many comments I can, and when someone comments with a hateful attitude, accusing me of being disingenuous or making false claims about who I am-I don’t sit back and take it, I fight back. Sometimes with snark. Sometimes with a reminder that their comments help my channel. But if you think I’m trying to bring people to my channel to write mean comments like yours, you are sorely mistaken.
BTS is the only group I’ve reacted to who creates such nastiness in the comments. I never know what simple statement is going to set off this fanbase. I load these reactions with disclaimers because I’m worried I might say “RM is cool” and the internet will rip me apart.
Nothing I said in this video was negative judgment. If you’ll recall the end, I said I liked all the songs, and I wish more bands would do this kind of thing. I pointed out some potential production tricks, but I never once said BTS is fake or bad or anything of the sort.
I shouldn’t be interacting with you. I can tell that you’ve made a false opinion of me that no matter what I say, you won’t change because you don’t know me. But if there’s ever a chance for friendship, I’m going to fight for it. I wish you well, and that your frustrations with other reactors aren’t affecting your perception of me. I’m just here to celebrate music and talk about what I see in the moment. And that’s all. 😊
His….yeah….ANYWAYSSS!!! Stream BTS YALLL
The drummer is Anderson Paak of Silk Sonics.
People with more experienced in music make different comment then him..why? Idk
I guess you are busy making assumptions already.
I think armys would say this time and again.
That one of the things BTS is not good of is lip synching , they may have back up tracks at times but they sang over it every time.
PLEASE STOP REACTING TO BTS AMD DELETE THE BTS VIDEOS. Thank you
I love their vocals in this video, they never fail to impress. I hope you enjoy this as much as ARMY do 💜
edit: I know their voices sound flawless but no they aren't lipsyncing in this video. If you listen to their voices individually you can tell easily that their vocals are raw and live. BTS are well trained singers that have polished their voices for over 9 years so that's why they sound really good. It's normal for BTS to practice singing and rapping while hitting their chest and/or running on the treadmill while singing or rapping.
Just fyi since you're new to BTS, you will rarely see them lipsyncing unless they're filming a music video (so there's no reason for live audio obviously) or if they want to pretend they're singing during dance practice. Sometimes during dance practice they do sing and rap to prepare their voices to do the same thing for the preformance. BTS have backing tracks during preformances as many performers do. They especially use a backing track when they have upbeat or intense choreography so since they have to do them as the same time it's helpful to have a backing track.
Also just so you know it's often that BTS use autotune more for a stylistic choice, not normally for the intention of pitch correction although a lot of singers do that and BTS have done that too. A great (and recent) example of this is when BTS' rappers (RM, j-hope & Suga) preformed during the Yet To Come Busan concert. Fun fact Suga uses autotune stylistically the most out of the BTS members in his music and when he's live. But as you've said you're new so we (ARMY) are here to educate and inform.
I hope you found my input useful! My favorite song that they preformed was Born Singer btw, BTS have preformed that song live only 3 times. Once in 2013, their debut year, once in 2015, and once in this video.
As a viewer I hope to see more open-minded, honest and attentive reactions to BTS in the future!
He wanted to see what the voice of a human can do. And when he hear Jimin, someone with one of the most unique voice ever! He calls it edited, auto-tuned and not natural……got it
Bts don't like lip sync
Yes it was live I live 30 minutes away in California ,got close enough to hear
wow how did you know where they were! :))
I thought it was Vegas
In Korea they are very strict with concerts, people are paying to hear singing, so NINETY percent of the concert has to be live singing, some call and answer style can be recorded, or more rarely adlib stuff occasionally is not live likely bc of dancing. There is some OLD footage from tv shows when they were much younger where it seems like it might be lip synced, my theory is that when they used to do Korean television shows, on occasion, maybe the first time they worked out a new routine, they sometimes lip synced it. For the bulk of their career especially later in their careers they don't ever lip sync, they are such masters at their elite level of performance by now
Obviously I know BTS doesn't lip sync, but is live singing that important for Korean concerts? The reason why I ask this because 90 percent of the performances I watch from various kpop artists are lip synced. I mean maybe it's different for concerts but for comeback stages a lot of them do lip sync and I hate it. I also hate when people say it's okay to lip sync because no one can dance that hard and sing perfectly live. Well of course no one expects the vocals to be perfect during a live concert but I still expect the artists to sing live, I don't go to concerts to hear audio I can hear at home. And BTS prove you can dance, jump, run and still sing live.
@@crystalsnow1138 are you differentiating between a concert (where people pay to see singers not lipsyncing dancers so the law is strict) or a television show (where no people are paying tickets)?
@@sc33h3o3 As far as I know there is no law anywhere that says artists can't lip sync during concerts, and in my opinion just because the audience isn't paying for a tv show performance doesn't give them a free pass to lip sync. That's why I'm asking is it common for concerts in SK to be more live singing than the tv performances.
I guess since ur not familiar with their voices so much its natural to think that its not live … and we dont take autotune as a negative but when we say this is live means its live coz thats how he (jimin)sounds even without any mics and music Assistance singing randomly into screen … its fine if u don’t agree we can only tell u a fact when we know one .
And them talking is equally important to us armys as is their music coz they always let us know the background stories and their mind sets .. we get to know it first hand from them and it makes the music even more interesting and enjoyable.
ARMYs totally understand, but I'll let it slide since he's new to BTS. Lyrics mean everything so I hope he eventually understand because he's barely scratching the surface of who they are as Artists and individuals. BTS goes beyond music and that's an understatement.
#ARMYsince2014 💜
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That's right link jimin sings without music
for someone who's such a professional and has so much experience with this type of stuff, you surely can't differentiate between a backing track and lip syncing...
Thank you. Someone who claims to be a video productions specialist but doesn't know when a video is Live or pre-recorded and says he is a songwriter but doesn't care about lyrics. This guy is a troll.😂
You just have to know them to understand honestly
You don't know Anderson Paak?
🤷♂️ I don’t know a lot of people.
@@MidnightNotion He's sings and drums in Silk Sonic with Bruno Mars.
@@veecee9497 he's also a Grammy nominated creative genius for his own work
@@sc33h3o3 yes, forgot to mention that. I think they won a grammy for Leave the Door Open. Thank you
@@veecee9497 what I meant was, he is a star who won 6 Grammy's before forming Silk Sonic with Bruno Mars, he's a big deal even before silk sonic :)
they do not lip synch or use auto tune, i have seen the boys live and jimin has a unique voice and he just sounds that way :)
Thanks for your reaction but what? They are not lip syncing. Can’t you hear them breathing? Watch their lips and not for electrical cords (which by the way, there are a ton of cords behind the band) 💜💜💜
i agree with the edited claims. however, i can't agree with the lipsync allegations. and i read comment when you cleared out that you were not talking specifically about the group, but your wording in the video negates it. but im happy that you are still reacting to them. some army.. really give me second hand embarassment.
I appreciate the apology. If I'm being honest, this was not my favorite reaction. There were a lot of assumptions made at the beginning about being pre- recorded, no wires, no inner ear, and lip singing... With an open mind, I looked for guitar wires & piano wires, etc. Everything you stated wasn't there and proved it wasn't live was there. I was disappointed when you never paid attention to see that what you claimed wasn't true.
It’s really important to know the difference between assumptions and observations. The video WAS pre-recorded. I didn’t notice the wires at first, but then I stopped caring about the wires and never came back to it, so while I did notice it, I didn’t say it in the video. Sometimes I learn things while I’m editing (watching a second time), and it’s too late to re-film. That’s the nature of improvised first-timer reactions.
Inner ear monitors ARE being used, and I never claimed lip syncing, I just said it’s a possibility since the video was pre-filmed and edited.
None of these things were judgments-I frequently said they weren’t bad or wrong, they were just things I noticed. Yet for some reason, people are taking my words as criticism. Is it wrong for me to talk about what I’m seeing and hearing? Or does everyone expect reactors to just bob their heads and say nothing?
@@MidnightNotion No one expects you to bob your head like a yes man and say nothing as a reactor.
The whole thing went downhill when you started looking for cuts,autotunes,saying their conversations were scripted, they were using teleprompter,there were no wires etc.
Your thumbnail was literally "Is it really Live" just to stir the pot so you invited the toxicity.
Your voice tone in the reaction was all wrong especially when you trolled Army... Like,how dare you?!
You can say things but the problem was the WAY you said those things.
Do better next time.
The thumbnail was a mistake, which is why I took it down. I thought it was conveying something different, and I was mistaken. It was never an intentional pot-stirring. I don’t do that (unless someone has personally attacked me first). It was the caption that came to mind while I was reacting, and I have already taken multiple measures to apologize for the miscommunication. That thumbnail put the wrong idea of me into many people’s minds, so they hate-watched the video instead of learning the real intent.
BabyDoll, you are all over the comments section, and most of what you’ve said is a direct attack at me. I don’t recall attacking you, and I’m getting a little exhausted by it. I’d love to have a real conversation where you’re not accusing me of something malicious.
@Midnight Notion Your responses are very angry as if you're being attacked. Like you, I was stating facts based on what you said. It's fine for reactors to voice their opinions, in fact, most Army, me included enjoy honest reactions no matter what they are. The issue I had with your reaction, you made so many preconceived statements BEFORE watching the video and never corrected the things you were wrong about. You're defending your statements without considering how they were perceived. Thanks
@BabyDoll So glad to see I wasn't alone in how negative I felt this reaction was from the start. He never gave them a chance before he stated so many negative assumptions. Thanks 💜
This is definitely live…they are terrible at lip syncing actually 😂
I get you meant that it wasn’t recorded live, but that’s just stating the obvious. You don’t have to state something that’s already known. So because of that, most ppl took it as you saying they were not singing live and were instead lip syncing. They do not lip sync and never have from everything I’ve seen. They definitely use backtracks bc they do heavy choreo while singing, so that makes sense. There are multiple clips of them singing acappella and they sound almost identical to the study versions. Specifically speaking on Jimin, his voice usually takes most ppl by surprise. That is his natural tone and multiple vocalist have praised him for it. A vocal couch once described his voice as “sounding robotic” but in a good way lol. Again clips of him singing acappella are perfect examples!! Like other commenters have said, please react to Taylor’s “the bangtan 7” it will definitely provide more insight
I sometimes state the obvious because the obvious to me isn’t always obvious to others. For instance, I thought it was obvious that I was excited about production tricks and really loved this videos, but others seem to think it’s obvious I’m just doing this for views. Can’t win ‘em all, I guess, but my point stands: not everyone shares the same knowledge.
Pointing out how things are edited is solely to help people learn how to edit their own things. That’s all. 😊
You want something with dance/pop/EDM? Try “Not Today” MV with eng subtitles by BTS.
Hey, i really did like your reaction, i think it would be worth it to react to Taylors guide to BTS: Bangtan 7. It gives more insight on the boys and their journey. This performance was live, but edited so there may have been multiple takes, breaks in between etc. But the boys dont lip sync, its actually a running joke that they are terrible at it 😂 they do however have backing tracks during live shows, mainly coz they have pretty intense dance breaks, so the audio is helpful. And fellow ARMY, I've been reading the comments and it's been making me sad. Clearly he's not here to hate but to learn about them, and I feel bad that rather than simply correcting him if he's got things wrong some of you are being needlessly mean. Please be kind guys, Borahae!
I appreciate having you here, Abbie C, and I’m thankful for your kind words. You rock 🤘
I'm a musician and songwriter but I'm not really interested in the lyrics. Okey dokey.
He said that? I missed it...omg😭
I definitely didn’t say I wasn’t interested in lyrics. Some people just want to hate people for made up reasons I guess. 🤷♂️
@@MidnightNotion maybe re-listen, you did say at the beginning to go elsewhere where people might pay attention to their lyrics? i have to say that as a songwriter, it is demoralizing to hear that you are choosing not to investiagate the lyrics, particularly because BTS' lyrics have healed and saved so many. what would be the point of commenting on a Beatles song if you choose not to investigate the lyrics? if you watch Orig Explores docuvideo "you never walk alone" there is a testimony of how their sincere music inspired to investigate past a language barrier; they became a global beatles phenomenon singing in Korean, and many needed to deep-dive their lyrics because their healing power is so strong through their music, delivery, and many became STAUNCH fans BECAUSE of their lyrics mostly.
@@MidnightNotion what is the point of music if it doesn't heal/inspire/move us, and lyrics are usually at least 50% of a song's role in this?
@@MidnightNotion You did say it at 1:39-1:55 time stamp. Check again.
In fact,that was the first red flag I got from you ,a songwriter that is not interested in lyrics because his channel is not a lyrics channel?
Really?! Immediately i knew you were in it to stir the pot and get views and engagements just like you already replied to someone in the comment section but you better be guided because if you come for BTS, Army will take your channel down.
How can you be reacting to a video and the first thought is to find faults... Autotunes, scripted conversations,teleprompter,edits and cuts etc.
This is the worst reaction to BTS on TH-cam and I'm NOT gonna bother with your channel again and so will so many Army.
My advise to you since BTS is wayyy out of your league is to find small kpop groups and react to them.
I know the temptation is high with BTS because of the views you crave for but you won't be getting form Army with this type of lame ass ingenuine reactions.
I'm all for constructive criticisms and opinions but you only succeeded in showing your idiocy and nothing else.
This is the link to BTS showcase, which is their first live performance.
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If you want to know more about them, I suggest Introduction to BTS: The Bangtan 7 by Taylor.
Also for Edm rec, I think you’ll like Save me/ I’m fine live performance from BTS.
About ARMYs comments, they are constructive criticism just like yours. A lot of ARMY are international, so their first language may not be English. You can’t often tell the tone and intentions in written word. So I hope we give benefit of the doubt to both ARMY and you.
I'm sorry for what I have to say but the instruments were all live with some vocal modifications because if you notice in the 2:53 minute when he sings v he should finish singing with the word in Korean but he didn't say it so people make sure that the performance was live and direct
they're clearly singing live and also the background singers and live band should make that more obvious however the video itself is clearly prerecorded as it's not a live concert with an audience I thought that was very obvious, they just called it live because they're singing the songs live not because they're doing a livestream
At this point, only the rappers are real
There are several introductory type videos for BTS members, and there is a really good Guide to Bangtan 7 by Taylor Mari. I would love to see your reactions to that.
you need a second job as a detective lol
22:30 this is funny but i swear jimin's voice really sounds like that naturally 😂😂
I wish I could teach you how to hear what I’m hearing, but it’s hard to do over text. It’s quite obviously autotune (because human voices can’t make perfect waveforms), but the untrained ear doesn’t notice. I’ll try to make a video about it.
@@MidnightNotion it's just the layer of the song itself, and it's layered with Jungkook's voice recording, you can react again Run bts duara jungkook also layered jimin's voice
Just watch your reaction for this bts proof live... why you always had comments that bts MIGHT lyp sync.. 11 years their big career they NEVER LYP SYNC in LIVE performances... and so did this LIVE... if you didnt notice where were all the plugs etc.. dont jump to conclusion that they were Lip Sync... they work so hard.. blood sweat and tears to become the biggest boy band and become global superstar ...
before you say anything about jimin voice, you can watch his live performance, filter, lie, serendipity... thank you
The guy literally doesn't know that voices exist that sound like effect 🙄 like i remember in my country Voice there was girl, judges stopped her cause they thought her voice was autotuned. Then she sang acapella and it was literally her voice, it had such resonance that it sounded like echo or small delay effect
Before you attack me, you should know that I record voices almost every day, and I use autotune on them frequently. I know what both sound like. I highly suggest that if you don’t record or mix voices yourself that you learn to understand most vocals post-2005 are pitch corrected in some way, and that’s not a bad thing. When I say “this has been corrected,” it’s not judgment, it’s observation.
Nothing will convince someone who wants to believe otherwise. Advise ARMY to save their breath here.
@@MidnightNotion This is the most vapid response I've ever heard lol. Appealing to your own anectdotal experience as some sort of objective barometer for whether someone is "pitch corrected" or otherwise. I know you think you're being very insightful but in reality you just seem snarky or (even worse) jealous and hiding behind your very pointed "observations".
Let me pose you a question. For example, do Mongolian throat singers pitch correct/autotune their vocals? I ask this because they do sound it, but in reality the answer is more than likely no. They just have a style of vocalising that doesn't map onto whatever the average sounds/voices that singers make.
Another question. If someone were to link you an acapella video of Jimin singing in basically the EXACT same tone and cadence, would you say this acapella singing is pitch corrected too? The answer is no, I hope. So if the answer is no, then not only do you look stupid but you have also thrown any experience you claim to have under the bus, and for what? To seem more learned than you are? To shortcut an argument you don't actually have in response to some random youtube comment?
The truth of the matter is you have absolutely no idea what any of these guys' natural voices sound like to be making these back handed observations every few mins of the video. So in the future if you don't want to receive "hate" (lol) maybe do at the bare minimum a pittance of research.
@@tiffanyaltieri7467 word it kinda irks me that still after a decade and world renowned acknowledgement there is still the common misconception that they lack in singing abilities and their musical production is enhanced artificially when there is plenty of content and a discography that disproves that. In the west they are just marketed as some super poppy mainstream group because that’s of like 3 songs. Their lyricism and authenticity and pure talent is so rare that when it actually has manifested itself people refuse to believe it smh.
Its kinda sad that you focus on everything but things ARMYS love about BTS. Lyrics mostly. And you make too much asumptions. BTS are terrible at lypsyncing. They tried but failed. Even in MVs many times you can catch it. Mainly RM. He Is worst at it. And Jimins voice just sounds like this.
Many things could be solved if you just watched guide... 🙄🙄🙄