This was fantastic. I left the institutional church about 10 years ago. I grew closer to God more than ever after this. I do want to caution folks though, even small home groups can carry old traditions and power hungry individuals over into it. But yes, God is doing something for sure all over the world as He calls us out of this corrupt institution. It's so amazing to be a part of this. My sheep hear my voice...
@@GregRickardorder is always determined by context,purpose and mostly the intention of the Spirit of the Holy Father. It's never a set and prescribe flow of recurring events called liturgy.
@@Fredericko-k7p liturgy is not "order" there are plenty of pastoral and hierarchical instructions in Scripture about how the body of Christ is to behave and gather.
Amen!! I am so thankful to God for the Holy Spirit leading me to this teaching. The Lord pulled me out of the Institutional Church approximately 5 years ago. I have struggled thinking I was in the wrong so I would visit different churches in my area to find that the Holy Spirit in me was showing me more truth about the "church" as I understood it. I have been in prayer, searching and seeking what the Lord is showing me. I now know why the Holy Spirit was calling me out of this false church. Praising God and praying for my brothers and sisters in Christ that are still seeking.
That’s me, I have visited many churches and none of them felt right, everyone of them basically follow a set of practices. No fellowship unless you go early to meet others. I also thought is something wrong with me, why can’t I find a place. Maybe this is the reason why I’m being called out away from the organized, institutional “church”
Picture the Pastor-run gathering: a well-oiled production, where you show up, sit quietly, and listen to one man talk for an hour while you nod along. It's like a performance-everyone's in their seats, the lights are dimmed just right, and the stage is set. You get some music, maybe a few prayers, but all the action happens up front. No spontaneity, no participation, just passive consumption. The Holy Spirit? Put on standby until next week's show. Want to speak or share? Not unless you're invited. It's a one-man show dressed up as "church," where the crowd is there to watch "worship, not live.. It's less about building community and edifying one another and more about clocking in for your weekly religious duty. Pastor runs the show, the people follow, and we call it "church" - but where's the life, the body, the Spirit-led gathering of the New Testament?
My wife and I just made the decision to leave the institutional church system that we have been in for nearly 35 years (our whole lives). We are going to just have church at home and with family. Please pray for us in this transition. I know we will feel different feelings of doubt, guilt and shame. But I know that the Lord has confirmed this to us 🙏🏽
No one in the NT has the title of Pastor. Jesus commanded against such titles among the brethren. Matthew 23 8-12. Flee anyone calling themselves Pastor. Flee any building called a church. The Church can't go to church.
This embodies everything i have been feeling but could not put into words; thank you for making this video, i now know what I have to do ! Home Services for my family and I .
This video covered so many aspects of true biblical church gatherings that expresses the heart of God! Thank you for taking time to share this with the world! I was truly blessed to watch all of you discover what BEING the church is, instead of GOING to church! I often say, “God didn’t give you all these people to build a big church, rather he gave you a church to build big people!” Making disciples, doing the “one another’s and allowing the Spirit of God to lead us every breath of everyday. What a crazy adventure going from Spirit-led divine appointments to the next divine appointment! This is truly being his bride the church and living life to the fullest! Thank you again! God bless you all!
@@bryanpratt5850 Good advice. Even just one person who you can talk to about God. Someone who doesn't try to get you to join their assembly and submit to a man's authority.
Facts about what a 501c3 church corporation is by lawful state definition: The creator of a corporation is the State. The State is the sole authority and sovereign head over the corporation. The corporation is subject to the laws of the State which limits its powers. The corporation has no constitutionally protected rights. The corporation is an artificial person. The corporation submits to a State Charter declaring it is a creature of the State. The corporation is created for the benefit of the public. The corporation is a State franchise. The corporation is a privilege granted by the State. So exactly what are these 501c3 churches? They are state government churches created by the state for the public good, but Jesus the Christ is NOT the head of these churches but the state is!
Plus those Protestant churches are daughters of the Catholic Church... which the Bible calls the Catholic Church mystery Babylon... the mother of harlots!!! 👀
Thank you for this incredibly important and useful video! Believers who are to survive the death spiral that institutional christianity in U.S. is currently in have no choice but to return to the biblical form of "ecclesia".
This is a fantastic video. I have been running a home fellowship with some others, and I cannot believe how many people disregard us as “not being a real” church. Even though it’s how it was created to be in my opinion. And I am in full agreement on your stance on communion. Thanks and God bless you.
Wow It was so refreshing to watch this video. Freedom is what Jesus came for. Freedom from sin. Freedom from this world. Freedom from fear and death. Frèedom from mens traditions. Todays model church says they want to set you free but bind you with their traditions. They use fear to keep people in line and subservient. They say we dont love the world but you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the unbeliever and the so called believer. How do i know this because i have lived through it. Praise the Jesus who brought me out of it. No longer do i have to stand for the man if God, i am a man of God and so are you if you follow Jesus.
Tremendous ! I loved it ! The one thing I would add is that we need to be careful to warn people not to name churches or incorporate them or do a 501 C. In First Corinthians, the apostle Paul pointed out that they were starting to identify themselves as the followers of Paul or of Peter, or Apollos. In doing this they were distinguishing themselves from other believers. Paul rebuked them sharply and called them CARNAL for doing this. The western institutional church has taken this much farther and as a result we have what we see today. People say "I am a member of First Baptist Church" or "I am a member of Grace Community Church" or fill in the blank with another name. This is carnal, unscriptural, and it is also about control. It is THEIR church, NOT the LORD'S church. You can't tell them anything because it is their playhouse and they make the rules, regardless of scripture. This practice also gives honor and praise to something other than Jesus Christ. On Sunday you will hear them go on and on about how wonderful (fill in the blank) church is. It's nauseating. It is worshipping the work of men's hands. There is a word for that. It's called idolatry. We must be careful to NOT fall into the same error in house churches. We must not name them, incorporate them, get 501 C status for them, nor even identify them as "so and so's church". You notice that the epistles don't say "so and so's church" . It says "the church that is IN so and so's house. When we start creating named churches, we are making not only idols, but cliques, sects, division in the body and that is severely chastened in the epistles.
We went to a little old church for 22 faithful years until a narcissist controlling pastor came in who was there 3 years. Pastor was ok to start with until last year when he gave my husband a time frame to change his hours, days or his great paying job so he can make it to every Sunday service. My husband only missed 2 sundays a month. My husband and I ran the sound/video booth. I ran sound and video when my husband wasn’t there. Pastor still wanted husband at church every service. We gave pastor a month time frame to find replacement for us because we’re stepping down and we eventually left that church. Pastor mailed us a letter 5 months later that he took away our membership. 😮 we didn’t join another church or asked to be taken off the roll. Pastor always said at end of every service “ This pastor loves you and there’s nothing you can do about it”. …Yeah right. That’s called love bombing.
I grew up in a secular- atheist upbringing only wanting to know God and that way have to attend “Institutional, Brick and Mortar, “Church” only to go for some time only to leave, and in the past I would just blame my upbringing, then recently going to another Church only to go there for some time and as recently seeing a lot of what I would see & witness “Church Politics” creeping in, and I again kept dithering on attending and starting to have issues and questions about what was going on and as of this January leaving for good and this time I am and have been doing research on why I leave the “Brick and Mortar Church” and not blaming my secular past, only to get information on Home Churches and on the Institutional Churches, and it’s an eye opener and now on the process of growth and looking for a New Testament Home Church, Thank You And God Bless You ❤️✝️🙏
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Nowadays it's me and my familly following Jesus. We feel growing in knowledge and grace like never before.
He didn’t abolish the law, rather he fulfilled the law and gave the law a serious upgrade! He took the 633 laws and 10 Commandments and simplified them into two commands…love him, and love them! The first four commandments were about Him and the last six were about them! Most couldn’t remember the ten commandments much less the 633 laws, so he upgraded the laws to the new and simplified 2.0 version!
Interesting to see a Christmas tree right there in their living room in the midst of their service. People need to wake up and come completely away from Baal worship.
Because it is Baal worship. Brought to you by your good friends from the Catholic "church". Please research your recent history, Christmas as well as every other Popish tradition was outlawed until the mid 1800's when Jesuit infiltration became more prevailant in this country. m.th-cam.com/video/FqomQ4fF7s0/w-d-xo.html
Because genuine believers in Yashuhua dont indulge in pagan holidays,pagan gods and pagan practices. And Christmas is a pagan holiday and the Christmas tree plays a big pagan role.
And hence why we have division and not unity in the church today. Your dogmatic stance is no different than the very thing you claim to want to be free from. Colossians 2:16 KJV - Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
This is a weird speculation and I appreciate this forum, but every time I see three or more religious people meet together, there seems to me more room for deception, intimidation and error to be taught even if it is just a mistake by a humble person. It is the mere strength that three people have versus only two people. Of course it's much worse with there are many more religious people meeting together. My most fruitful times have been when I am with only one other believer or faith professing person. It's just an observation from about 45 years of being a believer. What have you experienced when you are in a group?
More than any thing, the church needs the Holy Spirit to move in us and through is. A dead church has less to do with structure and more to do with the degree in which we allow the spirit to flow and lead.
Wow! What an AWESOME video!!! Thank you Jesus. It is so refreshing to know that God is leading and guiding his children by his Spirit to the understanding of his word. Having a hunger for the truth and a rejection of false, traditional, institutionalized, doctrines of devil's throughout generations in the churches and denominations. I really enjoyed Tom's letter. He is truly a mature saint with an uncompromised understanding between the Old Testament covenant and the New Testament covenant as well as the rest of the speakers in the video. Very nicely articulated. May God continue to bless each and everyone of you in your labours and endeavors for Jesus Christ. Sincerely, Christ's servant 🤗🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hi Wayne, I just noticed that you posted my video. Good to know others are finding it in a way to realize the call we have to gather in the liberty where in we have been made free. Thank you Wayne.
@@mauricewilsondaddybob1307 Actually the apostles did not stay in any one place very long. They went to plant a church, teach them, and then left the house church to run itself.
Fellowshipping is great but we are living in the last days and ther are many hirelings controling the people of God. Jesus is the bridegroom and when He wants something done a certain way His bride out of love should obey Him. It is difficult to assemble if we are not like-minded In Christ alone, and His Words written in red guided by the Holy Spirit, instead the wolves and hirelings have infiltrated the Ecclesia of Christ the builder. I will not betray Him and fellowshipp with people who love false sheperds. And sad thing is They hardly read the Bible. It takes many many hours and dedication to hear God's voice. The Bible interprets itself, sometimes the interpretation may be found in the Old Testament. And reading the verses in its contents in the chapter! Pastors and teachers parrot other leaders instead of reading the Scriptures and letting the Holy Spirit give the spiritual food we need. I do not speak of all leaders but they are few and far between. at that time The believers had to assemle, The Bible was written later they had letters from apostle Paul and other authentic manuscrips. He had to travel from house to house . Most of them were iliterate so they gathered together with one manuscript to learn the Word and read the letters Paul wrote to encourage the saints or rebuke them! I am not sure who read his letter while he was away preaching the gospel and encouraging other communities. I guess there are some who respect Jesus as the Head of the Church,
I have given up on organized church. I do know of a pastor who ended up stealing another members wife ( he already had a wife and 2 small children) Now, years later, he is a pastor at a church with his new wife and children from her. One qualification is being of one wife.
I've heard that disqualified one from office but the real concern for me is...Does such a person have to repent and renounce his second wife to please God?
@@Fredericko-k7p Bigger question is are all those so called Christians living in adultery going to quit living in adultery to be saved! Because if you are living a daily life rebelling against God can you be saved?
The Protestant reformation began in 1517 and did much to promote the gospel and move away from the heretical Catholic Church. Let's pray for a second reformation that will be the final step the Lord takes before He returns.
I started writing The Catalysm of the Kingdom of Heaven in October of 2021. I had no idea at the time that it was exactly five hundred years and nine months after Luther's excommunication by Leo X. The creed / confession lays out the personal Priesthood of Christians. Maybe it's the beginning of the next Reformation. From the Catholic monarchy to Orthodox oligarchy, to Protestant bourgeoisie - finally the true priesthood of all believers. drive.google.com/file/d/14zbQzmMZiPok0KzHChgKkF2i2SBgnH5N/view?usp=drivesdk
Have had a long history with the church..left near 5 yrs. ago...not sure if I could return...too many not willing to leave the system...and unwilling to return to scripture...though over the years had brought up time and again what I had read...scriptual proof, it made no difference...has been so difficult...thank you...I do by faith believe many are among them..of the true Faith...
Everything they said is right on. They are speaking according to the Word of God,100% accurate. I left the churches and read the Bible without any human interference or teachings or commentaries. I saw the difference between the traditions of men and the traditions of the apostles. I have no fellowship. I have been called a witch many times. I can not understand, I am in the Word of God most of the time. My family are witnesses. I get lonely at times but the Holy Spirit comforts me. I am so so so glad I found you. I am comforted by listening to you. Some times I think that I am wrong and in heresy. There is a site called Wicked Shepherds and when I start doubting I run to this sight. Thank you that Our Adoni brought me to you. Maranatha!
Reading your comment, felt like the story of my life. I left these religion organizations 4 years ago and I have Binle Studies in my home, but no one attends but my children and I! I have been talked about, lied on & accused of being crazy but I wouldn't change it for nothing in the world! I have really gotten to know ELOHIM'S heart through HIS word! Be Blessed my sister in CHRIST!
I wish also. I have no fellowship either. @@vernalongwell1648 And if I start a womans home fellowship I am sure they will bring in their doctrinal errors and interpretations that pastors taught them causing blindness and when they read the Bible they filter it according to their teachers interpretation And it would cause divisions and strife behaving like the institutional Churches. I believe Christ is not pleased with that. So I have refrained from starting a fellowship and wait on the Holy Spirit to guide me. The Holy Spirit before i left the was giuding me to leave and check to see if thr churches wasdoing according the apostles tradions. I realized that these church leaders were hirlings and strangers. I emptied my mind from what tbey taught me and read only the Bible especially Our Saviours words! Wow! Now I can recognize His beautiful voice! Sorry long comment! Thank you for answering and "fellowshipping" with me , sister!
William Tyndale refused to use the Catholic term "the Church", but rather translated the ecclesia to be the congregation. However he did use the word church twice in his translation describing the Temples that pagans worshiped in..
I'm 34 minutes in and am in total agreement. But, nothing is being said about the the agreement made by the pagan sun worshippers (later to become Roman Catholic Church) and the Christian's on the holy holidays as ordered by Constantine, the emperor of Rome, and Sabbath day being 'Sunday' the first day of the week and a known day of worship of the false idol Ra.
amen amen! trying to keep words to minimum. but, spot on! And very glad "we are not alone!" The Holy Spirit will not allow me to be a pew-sitter, even with all the *well let your light shine! Well, walking into what people say the house of the Lord, am I the shining light of 300 people....? That is exactly where I do not desire to be if it is so-called made up of born-again saints in Christ!...???!
First, I hate the "tithes and offerings". This is to influence many to give more than "required." There were three tithes in the OT. Do they ask for thise tithes or just money? Second, I see church leaders building their own kingdoms. Sign a covenant for us only, not for the ONE church. Third, the apostles gave to those in need. Not for the worship band to look and sound perfect or to modernize the church building to appeal to the culture. Fourth, the poor tend to be last in line when helped by the church. Fifth, leaders go by favortism and not by fruit and gifts. Sixth, we serve the church more than minister to God. Bistros, desserts, lattes are now the norm to serve than being Spirit-led. I believe is using God's name to build themselves up instead of becoming Christlike in obedience and faith. I hate the spiritual corporation today. That us what American Christianity has become. Self first, then God.
This video is not getting at the root of the problem, although it says many good things. The root of the problem is that Jesus said that anyone who desires to follow after Him must deny himself, take up his cross, and lose his life in this world. This is the foundation that the early Church set in each of their lives BEFORE they set out to be a body of believers. This is the missing foundation, why so many house churches and book of Acts churches that live together continue down a similar path as the institutional church. Losing your life and denying yourself is a lifelong practice of no longer living your own life for your own survival but instead seeking first the Kingdom of God and giving up a life in this world.
You are awake! To me there is no better teacher in this area than Dan Mohler, he explains it very well! and does not put himself on TH-cam!! Heard that he does not even own a computer!
Just for the sake that someone COULD go to a church gathering and get wasted reveals that we are really missing out on something 🤔 I mean by this not that anyone ought to get wasted. Obviously not, but modern church is really missing something.
The New Testament ( ekklesia) ( church ) ( called out one's), as recorded in the book of Acts, took the gospel good news to the whole known world of their day inside of 70 years from the Day of Pentecost. They didn't do that by building church buildings, by any man made or conceived programs, by hiring staff members to preach, organize, plan, or go to seminary! They didn't seek to institutionalize, organize, program, or even traditionalize their efforts to please any denomination or man's hierarchy. They simply obeyed Christ and His direct command to " make disciples of all nations ",( Matthew 28:18-20 ) answering the prayer to the Lord of the harvest to raise up workers for the fields ripe unto harvest. (Matthew 9:37-38 ). Christ demonstrated how to make disciples and commanded us to repeat exactly His demonstration given in the gospel narratives. Then Christ did not make His disciples in the church. He made them out there in the world God still so loves. The apostle Paul did not make disciples in the church building, Acts records no disciple being made in a church either. Acts records the saints making disciples and Christ Himself planting the local churches of Roman's, Galatians, Corinth, Ephesus and so on to impact the world from their particular location. They were always going and as they were going they fully obeyed Christ and made disciples as they went. This was the operation of that first century church. Then we got organized, we became institutions with man made traditions and programs. We began to erect buildings to call churches, we built budgets and debt to justify our offering plates. We became associations and built seminaries to train professionals in religious, denominational so-called church living. Mega churches began to be built with much fanfare..... yet all the while we were loosing ground across the world in the preaching of the gospel good news. We were no longer making disciples of all nations as was still our direct command. We were planting churches along with traditional, institutional, organized, religious programs and practices. ( never commanded us!) We were proselytizing the gospel message and adding converts. Yet we were commanded to multiply the kingdom through disciple making which includes the preaching, teaching and demonstration of the gospel good news. In our disobedience we have today, as I post this some 5 billion people on our planet who have never, ever, heard even one redemptive word of Christ Jesus. ( The Gospel ) Christ gave us this prophecy: " This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a witness to every nation and then the end will come. " Matthew 24:14. Then Christ said this: " If you love Me, you will obey My commandments. " John 14:15..... Well.... Do We?
Yep ! I love the LORD with all my heart but I have not been in a church building for over 5 years. ..I did though go to a church that was recently built by where I live and I attended it twice but it was very very clickish ...they didn't really want newcomers...they were content with their little groups. But that wasn't the main reason why I didn't continue going ! I'm am just tired of the same old same services I see going on in churches ! Very "religious" time schedules! ! Not really caring...just give me your tithes and offerings and for that, they will feed you once a month, pray with you (sometimes), etc etc ! ! People have told me ..."well, they're NOT all like that" but then can't give me a Name of a Church.! ! My church is every day in my home NOT just on Sundays ! ! BLESSINGS to you all !
*[[Mat 23:8]] KJV* But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. *[[Mat 23:9]] KJV* And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. *[[Mat **23:10**]] KJV* Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. *[[Mat **23:11**]] KJV* But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. *[[Mat **23:12**]] KJV* And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. *[[Rev 2:6]] KJV* But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. Our Savior doesn't want any one man to "Lord" it over us. He is our Master! We are all brethren and are supposed to act as such. That is why most people leave the institution of church. He wants a people not a building and not man made doctrine! He is calling His people out of her! HalleluYah!
Jesus didn't work in a carpenter shop 5 days a week and preach on Sunday's. His needs were met by affluent women. Paul however, earned his living as a tent maker so as to not be a burden on others. I suppose both were correct.
"Churches in the New Testament governed themselves through the simple process of everyone in the church seeking the Lord's will and together coming to agreement about what the Lord was saying?" oh really?? Where is that in Scripture?
I consider myself to be in the same camp with these people! I have attended a ton of organized religions (churches) and found them to be basically the same. Brick and mortar churches exist to keep people who don’t agree with their leadership doctrines out! When any group concerns itself with lucre, it becomes a business. And, business’s primary concern is financial survival. When Jesus booted the money changers out of the temple, I understand this to mean that God is not for sale! I think that if people want to subject themselves to their brand of organized religion, it’s fine with me. People need entertainment and entertainers need the ‘business’! I discovered several years ago that I needed real answers when it came to my Creator because my time as a mortal is running out and ‘religion‘ wasn’t getting me any closer. I began committing the cardinal sin of asking questions! How dare me! I quit asking the church and began taking my questions directly to the Creator of all things, both seen and unseen. Lo and behold, He answered me! It’s called Holy communion. If you are interested, simply find a quiet place (maybe a closet?) and ask Him to talk to you. It worked for me and I know it will work for you if you are sincere. I love you in the name of our Creator, Jesus!
One thing I would say on the size of the churches back then is that it was a very new movement at the time so would have no other place to meet other than in homes for the most part.
The salvation message is for all. We have been seperated from God because of sin. In our flesh is no good thing. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God (lying, stealing, taking the Lords name in vain, fornication, lust, hate etc). God is pure, Holy, righteous, perfect - He cannot look upon sin. You have sinned against a righteous judge.....a Holy God. The good news? God sent his only begotten son as a sinless, perfect sacrifice. Fully man yet fully God. Jesus Christ (God manifested in the flesh) died for your sins, past present and future. The blood God shed on the cross washes you clean of all unrighteousness. He took the wrath that you deserve and gave you a way to eternal life through him. Jesus Christ paid the price for all your sins. God died for you. You can be reconnected to God, forgiven and have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ....the living God. He made the biggest sacrifice for you. You can't earn salvation. No amount of going to a church building or good works will get Gods favor. Church buildings are man made religions. You have to put your total faith in Jesus Christ and what He did for you. Not trusting in yourself or thinking it's about being a good person because "there is none righteous, no not one" Romans 3:10. You need to get to the end of your own self righteousness understanding Jesus Christ is the only way. If you reject Jesus Christ, your sins are still counted against you and your punishment is hell for eternity. "For the wages of sin in death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord". Romans 6:23. God gave you a way out through Jesus Christ. "Repent ye and believe the gospel" Mark 1:15 Between you and God, repent...... humbling yourself before the one who created you. Change your mind and direction. Turn toward God and put your faith in Jesus Christ and what he did for you. With a heart wanting a changed life and all truth letting go of self righteousness. Only God knows your heart and if you're genuine. Start by crying out to God with a humble, contrite spirit and put your faith in Jesus Christ. "Heavenly Father, have mercy on me. I'm a sinner deserving of hell. I can't save myself. I know Jesus Christ is the only way. I want to turn from my past, I want a changed life and I know only you can save me. I put all my faith in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice for my sins. I believe he died for my sins and rose 3 days later. I pray for all truth no matter the cost. Please save me and lead me into all truth. In the name of Jesus Christ amen". Seek him with all your heart. Luke 5:31-32King James Version (KJV) 31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. 32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Psalm 34:18King James Version (KJV) 18 The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. Ephesians 2:8-9King James Version (KJV) 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. John 14:6King James Version (KJV) 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4King James Version (KJV) 15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Nt also speaks of Paul robbing offerings for his ministry from other churches. So, factually not as cut and dry. And for elders. And for the Jerusalem church which was going to suffer drought. This was the offering at the beginning of the week.
Love this video, it really resonates with me. Can wait until White True Believers come to the knowledge and acceptance of who the Real Hebrews are. Shalom
No such thing as worship in 1st century church. They assembled, and worked to edify each other. Most doctrines come from state church orthodoxy which most of house churches still practise this garbage.
I believe everything is broken on various levels due to the fall. People and the systems we use are broken, so there is no perfect model of the church. I've quit the institutional church, but one benefit I see of the institutional church is the theological teaching/understanding many of the leaders bring . For instance, the Southern Baptist's have there own seminaries where the majority of professors have spent there life studying God's word, Church history, Ancient culture and writings, etc. Student's are taught under these professors with the idea they in turn will go back into the SB churches and become pastors/leaders, bringing an deep knowledge of God's word. I see an immense value in this. With home churches, this depth of theological understanding may not exist which opens the people up to incorrect understanding of God. On the other hand, as someone with a Masters degree from a SB seminary, there are professors and some very smart students, who I would hope never hold a position of leadership within the Church. The reason is because even though they have an amazing theological/historical understanding of all things Biblical, they have very little Christ-likeness in their heart or in their approach to people. I believe people are turning away from the institutional church because it feels more like an event than a community.
creekfinds-Sadly they really don't learn much Truth at seminary. They learn a great deal of doctrine! That's why people are leaving the institutional church.
Sunday has never been the Lord's Sabbath. If there's need to go back to the roots, uphold the 7th day Sabbath. Study the bible from Genedis to revelation so that you can also teach Sabbath truth. Sunday goes back to after the ascension of Jesus. Let's not be selective on what we share from God's word. I have also heard some people honouring Sunday due to resurrection. Its just not biblical. Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath.
Churches dont have to give up their central builfings and all revert to home Churches. Keep the building but continuously use the smaller home-based gathering.
There's some stuff biblical and yet also some stuff just as wrong as the institutional church. God's Law is not abolished. Jesus said "do not think I came to abolish the Law or Propets. I did not come but to fulfill. Until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or tittle will by no means pass away until ALL has been fulfilled. If you break the least of these commandments and teach men so will be least in the Kingdom of Heaven. He who does them and teaches men so will be called greatest in the Kingdom of Hesven." OK, they get a lot right about what the church should look like and what is done today. I'll give a like to the video because the majority of what they say I agree with. His Second coming has not happened so all has not been fulfilled. The bible also says "The patience of the saints is those who keep God's Commandments and their faith in Jesus. " We should live by the Holy Bible as our doctrine, not our doctrine instead of the Holy Bible. Just my thoughts. God Bless.
Acts 13:1 THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BUILDING IT IS THE BODY OF CHRIST, AND CHRIST'S BODY IS NOT A BUILDING, IT'S THE BORN AGAIN BAPTISED DISCIPLES OF JESUS CHRIST.
1 Corinthians 14:33-38 KJV [33] For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. [34] Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. [35] And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. [36] What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? [37] If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. [38] But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
People, if there is anything that you are hearing and have heard, you better ask God to show you if that is true or false! Ask God to show you the truth! Pray this prayer: “Lord God, if there is anything that I’m hearing and have heard is true or false, show it to me. Show me the truth. Thank you, Lord. In Jesus Christ name I pray. Amen.” Share this!
Jesus Christ our true leader and the only way to the kingdom of God! We can't buy or earn our way to heaven through these church businesses we have today!
While the home is the ideal church, a building isn't necessary bad. Acts 19: 9But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus.
36 Was it from you that the word of God first went forth? Or has it come to you only? 37 If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. 38 But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized. 39 Therefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues. 40 But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner. 26 What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret; 28 but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment. 30 But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, the first one must keep silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted; 32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets; 33 for God is not a God of confusion but of [m]peace, as in all the churches of the saints. 34 The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35 If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is [n]improper for a woman to speak in church. 36 Was it from you that the word of God first went forth? Or has it come to you only? 37 If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. 38 But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized. 39 Therefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues. 40 But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner. I Corinthians 14 Praise the Lord Jesus Christ
I love this video, but allow me to share a difference of opinion regarding the tithe for consideration The tithe did not originate with the Mosaic law. The Bible says that Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek. Gen 14: 20. Jacob also gave tithe. Gen 28:22 Both examples show that tithing goes way before Moses. And Abraham being the father of the children of faith, he is our example here. Malachi says that withholding tithe is tantamount to robbing God. If we say that the sacrifice of Jesus exempts us from tithing, don't we mean, in other words, that the sacrifice of Christ licenses us to be robbers? "Thou shalt not steal" is a commandment for the New Testament also. Romans 13:9; Matthew 19:18 The tithe is holy. It goes to support full-time missionaries in both local and foreign missions. The Bible in the new Testament says the labourer is worthy of his hire. I believe that to be the tithe. Though Paul preferred to labour with his hands to support himself. Which is also okay.
Good stuff but he doesn't understand that there are 6 tithes and only 1 has a curse. Also seems to confuse covenant with law but the law was added to the law hundreds of years later.
I agree. Abraham paid a tithe to Melchizedek several hundred years before the law was given. Tithing is not legalistic, ideally it is our love offering to the Lord because He has done so much for us.
Although I agree with some of the video's points and can understand a desire to rid the church of some of the more bureaucratic developments, I disagree with the conclusion. Some of the points made here are far too simplistic and fail to appreciate some of the proper and natural developments The Church has made over the centuries. The Church continued to grow after the NT writings came to a close, and I am not convinced that the "just get back to the bible" is an adequate response. It may be a slightly romanticized ideal. The church in the first century can teach us something, but we have the NT writings mainly because those in authority (apostles) were dealing with many issues in house churches. I don't think we should despise authority or structures of church governments. Instead, we should ensure we are not disobeying or breaking any commands as we worship. The Spirit has been at work in the Church from the beginning, and The Church's liturgies have a rich and profitable history which should be respected. I know of many house churches that eventually faced problems because of a lack of organized structure and respect for elders in the faith. There are no easy answers, but we should respect both approaches. I agree that every believer is a priest, but does that mean no one is called into ministry as a vocation? to minister as a life's work to God's people?
Hello, John. We may be able to help you. I'll try to respond to you when I talk to some workers tomorrow, I believe we have many churches in the homes of believers throughout the US and countries. What part of Illinois do you live in?
Edifying has now taken on a new meaning. Its mostly for people loving fairytales..and any form of correction in all that is hateful..ugly..unbrotherly..accusing etc..Such is the spirit of WICKEDNESS among actual 'christians' today..So, its true that MANY , exactly as scripture says, will go to 'eternal damnation'...and that prolific WEEPING, is because all expect to simply teleport themselves into the Kingdom..on fables...
What do you do if you start off with a small group in a home and then more people want to join it and your busting at the seams? Thats why you go to a church building that holds more people. If they just want money all the time, I would leave.
Can gather even in the open air..but if the weather condition is not good that might be a problem as well..anyway God will surely take care of his flock..just have faith..blessings
This was fantastic. I left the institutional church about 10 years ago. I grew closer to God more than ever after this. I do want to caution folks though, even small home groups can carry old traditions and power hungry individuals over into it. But yes, God is doing something for sure all over the world as He calls us out of this corrupt institution. It's so amazing to be a part of this. My sheep hear my voice...
There still needs to be some order, which i believe the bible provides.
@@GregRickardorder is always determined by context,purpose and mostly the intention of the Spirit of the Holy Father. It's never a set and prescribe flow of recurring events called liturgy.
@@Fredericko-k7p liturgy is not "order"
there are plenty of pastoral and hierarchical instructions in Scripture about how the body of Christ is to behave and gather.
Well done, Brothers !🎉
MANY SMALL HOUSECHURCHES will reach into every corner of every neighbourhood. MANY SMALL CHURCHES will reach people NO megachurch will ever reach.
Amen
I thank the Lord Jesus for this confirmation. To only meet like minded believers.
Amen
Amen!! I am so thankful to God for the Holy Spirit leading me to this teaching. The Lord pulled me out of the Institutional Church approximately 5 years ago. I have struggled thinking I was in the wrong so I would visit different churches in my area to find that the Holy Spirit in me was showing me more truth about the "church" as I understood it. I have been in prayer, searching and seeking what the Lord is showing me. I now know why the Holy Spirit was calling me out of this false church. Praising God and praying for my brothers and sisters in Christ that are still seeking.
That’s me, I have visited many churches and none of them felt right, everyone of them basically follow a set of practices. No fellowship unless you go early to meet others. I also thought is something wrong with me, why can’t I find a place. Maybe this is the reason why I’m being called out away from the organized, institutional “church”
Picture the Pastor-run gathering: a well-oiled production, where you show up, sit quietly, and listen to one man talk for an hour while you nod along. It's like a performance-everyone's in their seats, the lights are dimmed just right, and the stage is set. You get some music, maybe a few prayers, but all the action happens up front. No spontaneity, no participation, just passive consumption.
The Holy Spirit? Put on standby until next week's show. Want to speak or share? Not unless you're invited. It's a one-man show dressed up as "church," where the crowd is there to watch "worship, not live.. It's less about building community and edifying one another and more about clocking in for your weekly religious duty. Pastor runs the show, the people follow, and we call it "church" - but where's the life, the body, the Spirit-led gathering of the New Testament?
My wife and I just made the decision to leave the institutional church system that we have been in for nearly 35 years (our whole lives). We are going to just have church at home and with family. Please pray for us in this transition. I know we will feel different feelings of doubt, guilt and shame. But I know that the Lord has confirmed this to us 🙏🏽
Hard hitting facts. We’ve created businesses, where churches are building brand more passionately than the kingdom.
No one in the NT has the title of Pastor. Jesus commanded against such titles among the brethren. Matthew 23 8-12. Flee anyone calling themselves Pastor. Flee any building called a church. The Church can't go to church.
Home fellowship is the way to go.Stopped organized church 8 months ago.My spiritual life is stronger.
Hey how is it going ? I just started
Praise the Lord
This embodies everything i have been feeling but could not put into words; thank you for making this video, i now know what I have to do ! Home Services for my family and I .
This video covered so many aspects of true biblical church gatherings that expresses the heart of God! Thank you for taking time to share this with the world! I was truly blessed to watch all of you discover what BEING the church is, instead of GOING to church! I often say, “God didn’t give you all these people to build a big church, rather he gave you a church to build big people!” Making disciples, doing the “one another’s and allowing the Spirit of God to lead us every breath of everyday. What a crazy adventure going from Spirit-led divine appointments to the next divine appointment! This is truly being his bride the church and living life to the fullest! Thank you again! God bless you all!
Amen brother.
It's very difficult to start when you are by your own 😔😔😔
Exactly.
Can you find one more person?
@@bryanpratt5850 Good advice. Even just one person who you can talk to about God. Someone who doesn't try to get you to join their assembly and submit to a man's authority.
You can do this just keep praying and asking the HOLY SPIRIT ", that's inside you cause your not alone Jesus hears you ...🙏❤️👈
Hello from Canada! 27 years in the IC… 4 years out. Jesus has done wonders… no words… praise the Lord!!
Praise God truth is being lived out as a body together..there is a whiteboard teaching it’s called contrasting church models in tin Germain’s channel
Please come out of the Babylon church building. It's not for you. Its for the ones that can't see. Thank God you you can see.
I truly believe that this is God's will for us. Thank you for the truth
Enjoyed watching this. We used to do home church years ago and I would like to do it again. God bless.
Why not create your own religion while you are at it?
George Pierson ???
George Pierson... care to share more of the perspective and opinion that lead to your strange comment?
Why did you stop?
@@George040270 Religion is overrated. Worship the trinity and love others. That's all we need.
Facts about what a 501c3 church corporation is by lawful state definition:
The creator of a corporation is the State.
The State is the sole authority and sovereign head over the corporation.
The corporation is subject to the laws of the State which limits its powers.
The corporation has no constitutionally protected rights.
The corporation is an artificial person.
The corporation submits to a State Charter declaring it is a creature of the State.
The corporation is created for the benefit of the public.
The corporation is a State franchise.
The corporation is a privilege granted by the State. So exactly what are these 501c3 churches? They are state government churches created by the state for the public good, but Jesus the Christ is NOT the head of these churches but the state is!
Are Baptist, Adventist and Jehowa Witneses also 501c3 church??
Wow!
Thank you brother!!
Starac P yes!!!
Plus those Protestant churches are daughters of the Catholic Church... which the Bible calls the Catholic Church mystery Babylon... the mother of harlots!!! 👀
So refreshing to hear these testimonies of Gods liberation of His church.
Thank you for this incredibly important and useful video! Believers who are to survive the death spiral that institutional christianity in U.S. is currently in have no choice but to return to the biblical form of "ecclesia".
This is a fantastic video. I have been running a home fellowship with some others, and I cannot believe how many people disregard us as “not being a real” church. Even though it’s how it was created to be in my opinion.
And I am in full agreement on your stance on communion.
Thanks and God bless you.
Amen the entire model is unbiblical. It’s alarming.
Wow It was so refreshing to watch this video. Freedom is what Jesus came for. Freedom from sin. Freedom from this world. Freedom from fear and death. Frèedom from mens traditions. Todays model church says they want to set you free but bind you with their traditions. They use fear to keep people in line and subservient. They say we dont love the world but you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the unbeliever and the so called believer. How do i know this because i have lived through it. Praise the Jesus who brought me out of it. No longer do i have to stand for the man if God, i am a man of God and so are you if you follow Jesus.
Tremendous ! I loved it ! The one thing I would add is that we need to be careful to warn people not to name churches or incorporate them or do a 501 C. In First Corinthians, the apostle Paul pointed out that they were starting to identify themselves as the followers of Paul or of Peter, or Apollos. In doing this they were distinguishing themselves from other believers. Paul rebuked them sharply and called them CARNAL for doing this. The western institutional church has taken this much farther and as a result we have what we see today. People say "I am a member of First Baptist Church" or "I am a member of Grace Community Church" or fill in the blank with another name. This is carnal, unscriptural, and it is also about control. It is THEIR church, NOT the LORD'S church. You can't tell them anything because it is their playhouse and they make the rules, regardless of scripture. This practice also gives honor and praise to something other than Jesus Christ. On Sunday you will hear them go on and on about how wonderful (fill in the blank) church is. It's nauseating. It is worshipping the work of men's hands. There is a word for that. It's called idolatry. We must be careful to NOT fall into the same error in house churches. We must not name them, incorporate them, get 501 C status for them, nor even identify them as "so and so's church". You notice that the epistles don't say "so and so's church" . It says "the church that is IN so and so's house. When we start creating named churches, we are making not only idols, but cliques, sects, division in the body and that is severely chastened in the epistles.
We went to a little old church for 22 faithful years until a narcissist controlling pastor came in who was there 3 years. Pastor was ok to start with until last year when he gave my husband a time frame to change his hours, days or his great paying job so he can make it to every Sunday service. My husband only missed 2 sundays a month. My husband and I ran the sound/video booth. I ran sound and video when my husband wasn’t there. Pastor still wanted husband at church every service. We gave pastor a month time frame to find replacement for us because we’re stepping down and we eventually left that church. Pastor mailed us a letter 5 months later that he took away our membership. 😮 we didn’t join another church or asked to be taken off the roll. Pastor always said at end of every service “ This pastor loves you and there’s nothing you can do about it”. …Yeah right. That’s called love bombing.
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I grew up in a secular- atheist upbringing only wanting to know God and that way have to attend “Institutional, Brick and Mortar, “Church” only to go for some time only to leave, and in the past I would just blame my upbringing, then recently going to another Church only to go there for some time and as recently seeing a lot of what I would see & witness “Church Politics” creeping in, and I again kept dithering on attending and starting to have issues and questions about what was going on and as of this January leaving for good and this time I am and have been doing research on why I leave the “Brick and Mortar Church” and not blaming my secular past, only to get information on Home Churches and on the Institutional Churches, and it’s an eye opener and now on the process of growth and looking for a New Testament Home Church, Thank You And God Bless You ❤️✝️🙏
Nowadays it's me and my familly following Jesus. We feel growing in knowledge and grace like never before.
I agreed with all but the part where the commandments are thrown out.
I’ve been part of a home group 8 years. I love it.
He didn’t abolish the law, rather he fulfilled the law and gave the law a serious upgrade! He took the 633 laws and 10 Commandments and simplified them into two commands…love him, and love them! The first four commandments were about Him and the last six were about them! Most couldn’t remember the ten commandments much less the 633 laws, so he upgraded the laws to the new and simplified 2.0 version!
This is awesome! 😊
Interesting to see a Christmas tree right there in their living room in the midst of their service. People need to wake up and come completely away from Baal worship.
Why are you associating Christmas trees with Ba'al worship?
Because it is Baal worship. Brought to you by your good friends from the Catholic "church". Please research your recent history, Christmas as well as every other Popish tradition was outlawed until the mid 1800's when Jesuit infiltration became more prevailant in this country.
m.th-cam.com/video/FqomQ4fF7s0/w-d-xo.html
Because genuine believers in Yashuhua dont indulge in pagan holidays,pagan gods and pagan practices. And Christmas is a pagan holiday and the Christmas tree plays a big pagan role.
Thats the dumbest thing ive ever head in my life.
And hence why we have division and not unity in the church today. Your dogmatic stance is no different than the very thing you claim to want to be free from.
Colossians 2:16 KJV - Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
This is a weird speculation and I appreciate this forum, but every time I see three or more religious people meet together, there seems to me more room for deception, intimidation and error to be taught even if it is just a mistake by a humble person. It is the mere strength that three people have versus only two people. Of course it's much worse with there are many more religious people meeting together. My most fruitful times have been when I am with only one other believer or faith professing person. It's just an observation from about 45 years of being a believer. What have you experienced when you are in a group?
More than any thing, the church needs the Holy Spirit to move in us and through is. A dead church has less to do with structure and more to do with the degree in which we allow the spirit to flow and lead.
Wow! What an AWESOME video!!! Thank you Jesus. It is so refreshing to know that God is leading and guiding his children by his Spirit to the understanding of his word. Having a hunger for the truth and a rejection of false, traditional, institutionalized, doctrines of devil's throughout generations in the churches and denominations. I really enjoyed Tom's letter. He is truly a mature saint with an uncompromised understanding between the Old Testament covenant and the New Testament covenant as well as the rest of the speakers in the video. Very nicely articulated. May God continue to bless each and everyone of you in your labours and endeavors for Jesus Christ. Sincerely, Christ's servant 🤗🙏🙏🙏🙏
Do you think I could post this video up on my channel? Thanks.
Of course you can.
Hi Wayne, I just noticed that you posted my video. Good to know others are finding it in a way to realize the call we have to gather in the liberty where in we have been made free. Thank you Wayne.
I appreciate you posting this video in segments. I gave you all of the credit and told people to subscribe to your page in the video description.
The first church didn't meet just to break bread (17:30)...they met additionally for the Apostle's teaching and for fellowship
Since the church is made up of Gentiles predominantly they would be listening to the Apostle Paul thier Apostle to the Gentiles.
@@mauricewilsondaddybob1307 Actually the apostles did not stay in any one place very long. They went to plant a church, teach them, and then left the house church to run itself.
Fellowshipping is great but we are living in the last days and ther are many hirelings controling the people of God. Jesus is the bridegroom and when He wants something done a certain way His bride out of love should obey Him. It is difficult to assemble if we are not like-minded In Christ alone, and His Words written in red guided by the Holy Spirit, instead the wolves and hirelings have infiltrated the Ecclesia of Christ the builder. I will not betray Him and fellowshipp with people who love false sheperds. And sad thing is They hardly read the Bible. It takes many many hours and dedication to hear God's voice. The Bible interprets itself, sometimes the interpretation may be found in the Old Testament. And reading the verses in its contents in the chapter! Pastors and teachers parrot other leaders instead of reading the Scriptures and letting the Holy Spirit give the spiritual food we need. I do not speak of all leaders but they are few and far between. at that time The believers had to assemle, The Bible was written later they had letters from apostle Paul and other authentic manuscrips. He had to travel from house to house . Most of them were iliterate so they gathered together with one manuscript to learn the Word and read the letters Paul wrote to encourage the saints or rebuke them! I am not sure who read his letter while he was away preaching the gospel and encouraging other communities. I guess there are some who respect Jesus as the Head of the Church,
I have given up on organized church. I do know of a pastor who ended up stealing another members wife ( he already had a wife and 2 small children) Now, years later, he is a pastor at a church with his new wife and children from her. One qualification is being of one wife.
I've heard that disqualified one from office but the real concern for me is...Does such a person have to repent and renounce his second wife to please God?
@@Fredericko-k7p Bigger question is are all those so called Christians living in adultery going to quit living in adultery to be saved! Because if you are living a daily life rebelling against God can you be saved?
The Protestant reformation began in 1517 and did much to promote the gospel and move away from the heretical Catholic Church. Let's pray for a second reformation that will be the final step the Lord takes before He returns.
I started writing The Catalysm of the Kingdom of Heaven in October of 2021. I had no idea at the time that it was exactly five hundred years and nine months after Luther's excommunication by Leo X.
The creed / confession lays out the personal Priesthood of Christians.
Maybe it's the beginning of the next Reformation.
From the Catholic monarchy to Orthodox oligarchy, to Protestant bourgeoisie - finally the true priesthood of all believers.
drive.google.com/file/d/14zbQzmMZiPok0KzHChgKkF2i2SBgnH5N/view?usp=drivesdk
Have had a long history with the church..left near 5 yrs. ago...not sure if I could return...too many not willing to leave the system...and unwilling to return to scripture...though over the years had brought up time and again what I had read...scriptual proof, it made no difference...has been so difficult...thank you...I do by faith believe many are among them..of the true Faith...
Everything they said is right on. They are speaking according to the Word of God,100% accurate. I left the churches and read the Bible without any human interference or teachings or commentaries. I saw the difference between the traditions of men and the traditions of the apostles. I have no fellowship. I have been called a witch many times. I can not understand, I am in the Word of God most of the time. My family are witnesses. I get lonely at times but the Holy Spirit comforts me. I am so so so glad I found you. I am comforted by listening to you. Some times I think that I am wrong and in heresy. There is a site called Wicked Shepherds and when I start doubting I run to this sight. Thank you that Our Adoni brought me to you. Maranatha!
Reading your comment, felt like the story of my life. I left these religion organizations 4 years ago and I have Binle Studies in my home, but no one attends but my children and I! I have been talked about, lied on & accused of being crazy but I wouldn't change it for nothing in the world! I have really gotten to know ELOHIM'S heart through HIS word! Be Blessed my sister in CHRIST!
Wish I lived near you, Gloria. I am exactly the same. Spend up to 8 hours a day in the word now retired, but no fellowship so it is lonely.
I wish also. I have no fellowship either. @@vernalongwell1648 And if I start a womans home fellowship I am sure they will bring in their doctrinal errors and interpretations that pastors taught them causing blindness and when they read the Bible they filter it according to their teachers interpretation And it would cause divisions and strife behaving like the institutional Churches. I believe Christ is not pleased with that. So I have refrained from starting a fellowship and wait on the Holy Spirit to guide me. The Holy Spirit before i left the was giuding me to leave and check to see if thr churches wasdoing according the apostles tradions. I realized that these church leaders were hirlings and strangers. I emptied my mind from what tbey taught me and read only the Bible especially Our Saviours words! Wow! Now I can recognize His beautiful voice! Sorry long comment! Thank you for answering and "fellowshipping" with me , sister!
ecclesia, the true church
William Tyndale refused to use the Catholic term "the Church", but rather translated the ecclesia to be the congregation. However he did use the word church twice in his translation describing the Temples that pagans worshiped in..
Most often it’s the women that love to dress up, more than most of the men in church. It’s my wife that will demand I put on special clothes.
Rightly dividing the word of Truth 2nd Timothy 2:15
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I'm 34 minutes in and am in total agreement. But, nothing is being said about the the agreement made by the pagan sun worshippers (later to become Roman Catholic Church) and the Christian's on the holy holidays as ordered by Constantine, the emperor of Rome, and Sabbath day being 'Sunday' the first day of the week and a known day of worship of the false idol Ra.
amen amen!
trying to keep words to minimum. but, spot on! And very glad "we are not alone!"
The Holy Spirit will not allow me to be a pew-sitter, even with all the *well let your light shine!
Well, walking into what people say the house of the Lord, am I the shining light of 300 people....?
That is exactly where I do not desire to be if it is so-called made up of born-again saints in Christ!...???!
Brilliant statements !😢😮
First, I hate the "tithes and offerings". This is to influence many to give more than "required." There were three tithes in the OT. Do they ask for thise tithes or just money?
Second, I see church leaders building their own kingdoms. Sign a covenant for us only, not for the ONE church.
Third, the apostles gave to those in need. Not for the worship band to look and sound perfect or to modernize the church building to appeal to the culture.
Fourth, the poor tend to be last in line when helped by the church.
Fifth, leaders go by favortism and not by fruit and gifts.
Sixth, we serve the church more than minister to God. Bistros, desserts, lattes are now the norm to serve than being Spirit-led.
I believe is using God's name to build themselves up instead of becoming Christlike in obedience and faith.
I hate the spiritual corporation today. That us what American Christianity has become. Self first, then God.
Follow the money and you will see the outright lying of the word of God.
This video is not getting at the root of the problem, although it says many good things. The root of the problem is that Jesus said that anyone who desires to follow after Him must deny himself, take up his cross, and lose his life in this world. This is the foundation that the early Church set in each of their lives BEFORE they set out to be a body of believers. This is the missing foundation, why so many house churches and book of Acts churches that live together continue down a similar path as the institutional church. Losing your life and denying yourself is a lifelong practice of no longer living your own life for your own survival but instead seeking first the Kingdom of God and giving up a life in this world.
You are awake! To me there is no better teacher in this area than Dan Mohler, he explains it very well! and does not put himself on TH-cam!! Heard that he does not even own a computer!
i live in Omaha Nebraska, and this city is full of institutions...
Just for the sake that someone COULD go to a church gathering and get wasted reveals that we are really missing out on something 🤔 I mean by this not that anyone ought to get wasted. Obviously not, but modern church is really missing something.
Fantastic
And it’s not a commandment to meet every week
The New Testament ( ekklesia) ( church ) ( called out one's), as recorded in the book of Acts, took the gospel good news to the whole known world of their day inside of 70 years from the Day of Pentecost. They didn't do that by building church buildings, by any man made or conceived programs, by hiring staff members to preach, organize, plan, or go to seminary! They didn't seek to institutionalize, organize, program, or even traditionalize their efforts to please any denomination or man's hierarchy. They simply obeyed Christ and His direct command to " make disciples of all nations ",( Matthew 28:18-20 ) answering the prayer to the Lord of the harvest to raise up workers for the fields ripe unto harvest. (Matthew 9:37-38 ). Christ demonstrated how to make disciples and commanded us to repeat exactly His demonstration given in the gospel narratives. Then Christ did not make His disciples in the church. He made them out there in the world God still so loves. The apostle Paul did not make disciples in the church building, Acts records no disciple being made in a church either. Acts records the saints making disciples and Christ Himself planting the local churches of Roman's, Galatians, Corinth, Ephesus and so on to impact the world from their particular location. They were always going and as they were going they fully obeyed Christ and made disciples as they went. This was the operation of that first century church. Then we got organized, we became institutions with man made traditions and programs. We began to erect buildings to call churches, we built budgets and debt to justify our offering plates. We became associations and built seminaries to train professionals in religious, denominational so-called church living. Mega churches began to be built with much fanfare..... yet all the while we were loosing ground across the world in the preaching of the gospel good news. We were no longer making disciples of all nations as was still our direct command. We were planting churches along with traditional, institutional, organized, religious programs and practices. ( never commanded us!) We were proselytizing the gospel message and adding converts. Yet we were commanded to multiply the kingdom through disciple making which includes the preaching, teaching and demonstration of the gospel good news. In our disobedience we have today, as I post this some 5 billion people on our planet who have never, ever, heard even one redemptive word of Christ Jesus. ( The Gospel )
Christ gave us this prophecy: " This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a witness to every nation and then the end will come. " Matthew 24:14. Then Christ said this: " If you love Me, you will obey My commandments. " John 14:15..... Well.... Do We?
Yep ! I love the LORD with all my heart but I have not been in a church building for over 5 years. ..I did though go to a church that was recently built by where I live and I attended it twice but it was very very clickish ...they didn't really want newcomers...they were content with their little groups. But that wasn't the main reason why I didn't continue going ! I'm am just tired of the same old same services I see going on in churches ! Very "religious" time schedules! ! Not really caring...just give me your tithes and offerings and for that, they will feed you once a month, pray with you (sometimes), etc etc ! ! People have told me ..."well, they're NOT all like that" but then can't give me a Name of a Church.! ! My church is every day in my home NOT just on Sundays ! ! BLESSINGS to you all !
*[[Mat 23:8]] KJV* But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
*[[Mat 23:9]] KJV* And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
*[[Mat **23:10**]] KJV* Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
*[[Mat **23:11**]] KJV* But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
*[[Mat **23:12**]] KJV* And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
*[[Rev 2:6]] KJV* But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
Our Savior doesn't want any one man to "Lord" it over us. He is our Master! We are all brethren and are supposed to act as such. That is why most people leave the institution of church. He wants a people not a building and not man made doctrine! He is calling His people out of her! HalleluYah!
Why is the Pastor paid a salary & other spiritual gifts are not.
Jesus didn't work in a carpenter shop 5 days a week and preach on Sunday's. His needs were met by affluent women. Paul however, earned his living as a tent maker so as to not be a burden on others. I suppose both were correct.
"Churches in the New Testament governed themselves through the simple process of everyone in the church seeking the Lord's will and together coming to agreement about what the Lord was saying?" oh really?? Where is that in Scripture?
I consider myself to be in the same camp with these people! I have attended a ton of organized religions (churches) and found them to be basically the same. Brick and mortar churches exist to keep people who don’t agree with their leadership doctrines out! When any group concerns itself with lucre, it becomes a business. And, business’s primary concern is financial survival. When Jesus booted the money changers out of the temple, I understand this to mean that God is not for sale! I think that if people want to subject themselves to their brand of organized religion, it’s fine with me. People need entertainment and entertainers need the ‘business’! I discovered several years ago that I needed real answers when it came to my Creator because my time as a mortal is running out and ‘religion‘ wasn’t getting me any closer. I began committing the cardinal sin of asking questions! How dare me! I quit asking the church and began taking my questions directly to the Creator of all things, both seen and unseen. Lo and behold, He answered me! It’s called Holy communion. If you are interested, simply find a quiet place (maybe a closet?) and ask Him to talk to you. It worked for me and I know it will work for you if you are sincere. I love you in the name of our Creator, Jesus!
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One thing I would say on the size of the churches back then is that it was a very new movement at the time so would have no other place to meet other than in homes for the most part.
The real, actual, Holy, chosen church of the Lord Jesus Christ is smaller than you think it is.
The salvation message is for all. We have been seperated from God because of sin. In our flesh is no good thing. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God (lying, stealing, taking the Lords name in vain, fornication, lust, hate etc). God is pure, Holy, righteous, perfect - He cannot look upon sin. You have sinned against a righteous judge.....a Holy God. The good news? God sent his only begotten son as a sinless, perfect sacrifice. Fully man yet fully God. Jesus Christ (God manifested in the flesh) died for your sins, past present and future. The blood God shed on the cross washes you clean of all unrighteousness. He took the wrath that you deserve and gave you a way to eternal life through him. Jesus Christ paid the price for all your sins. God died for you. You can be reconnected to God, forgiven and have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ....the living God. He made the biggest sacrifice for you. You can't earn salvation. No amount of going to a church building or good works will get Gods favor. Church buildings are man made religions. You have to put your total faith in Jesus Christ and what He did for you. Not trusting in yourself or thinking it's about being a good person because "there is none righteous, no not one" Romans 3:10. You need to get to the end of your own self righteousness understanding Jesus Christ is the only way. If you reject Jesus Christ, your sins are still counted against you and your punishment is hell for eternity. "For the wages of sin in death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord". Romans 6:23. God gave you a way out through Jesus Christ. "Repent ye and believe the gospel" Mark 1:15
Between you and God, repent...... humbling yourself before the one who created you. Change your mind and direction. Turn toward God and put your faith in Jesus Christ and what he did for you. With a heart wanting a changed life and all truth letting go of self righteousness. Only God knows your heart and if you're genuine. Start by crying out to God with a humble, contrite spirit and put your faith in Jesus Christ. "Heavenly Father, have mercy on me. I'm a sinner deserving of hell. I can't save myself. I know Jesus Christ is the only way. I want to turn from my past, I want a changed life and I know only you can save me. I put all my faith in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice for my sins. I believe he died for my sins and rose 3 days later. I pray for all truth no matter the cost. Please save me and lead me into all truth. In the name of Jesus Christ amen". Seek him with all your heart.
Luke 5:31-32King James Version (KJV)
31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.
32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Psalm 34:18King James Version (KJV)
18 The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.
Ephesians 2:8-9King James Version (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
John 14:6King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4King James Version (KJV)
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Nt also speaks of Paul robbing offerings for his ministry from other churches. So, factually not as cut and dry. And for elders. And for the Jerusalem church which was going to suffer drought. This was the offering at the beginning of the week.
Love this video, it really resonates with me. Can wait until White True Believers come to the knowledge and acceptance of who the Real Hebrews are. Shalom
No such thing as worship in 1st century church. They assembled, and worked to edify each other. Most doctrines come from state church orthodoxy which most of house churches still practise this garbage.
I believe everything is broken on various levels due to the fall. People and the systems we use are broken, so there is no perfect model of the church. I've quit the institutional church, but one benefit I see of the institutional church is the theological teaching/understanding many of the leaders bring . For instance, the Southern Baptist's have there own seminaries where the majority of professors have spent there life studying God's word, Church history, Ancient culture and writings, etc. Student's are taught under these professors with the idea they in turn will go back into the SB churches and become pastors/leaders, bringing an deep knowledge of God's word. I see an immense value in this. With home churches, this depth of theological understanding may not exist which opens the people up to incorrect understanding of God. On the other hand, as someone with a Masters degree from a SB seminary, there are professors and some very smart students, who I would hope never hold a position of leadership within the Church. The reason is because even though they have an amazing theological/historical understanding of all things Biblical, they have very little Christ-likeness in their heart or in their approach to people. I believe people are turning away from the institutional church because it feels more like an event than a community.
creekfinds-Sadly they really don't learn much Truth at seminary. They learn a great deal of doctrine!
That's why people are leaving the institutional church.
Sunday has never been the Lord's Sabbath. If there's need to go back to the roots, uphold the 7th day Sabbath. Study the bible from Genedis to revelation so that you can also teach Sabbath truth. Sunday goes back to after the ascension of Jesus. Let's not be selective on what we share from God's word. I have also heard some people honouring Sunday due to resurrection. Its just not biblical. Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath.
Tithing wasn’t part of the curse. Confused on that point. Read in Deuteronomy.
The Original Church of Yeshua Jesus is what is in the Bible!
Christmas in the original church I don’t think so.
Truthseeker424 baby steps.
The bible says to sing to each other. The agenda was in 1 Corth 14
Churches dont have to give up their central builfings and all revert to home Churches. Keep the building but continuously use the smaller home-based gathering.
There's some stuff biblical and yet also some stuff just as wrong as the institutional church. God's Law is not abolished. Jesus said "do not think I came to abolish the Law or Propets. I did not come but to fulfill. Until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or tittle will by no means pass away until ALL has been fulfilled. If you break the least of these commandments and teach men so will be least in the Kingdom of Heaven. He who does them and teaches men so will be called greatest in the Kingdom of Hesven." OK, they get a lot right about what the church should look like and what is done today. I'll give a like to the video because the majority of what they say I agree with. His Second coming has not happened so all has not been fulfilled. The bible also says "The patience of the saints is those who keep God's Commandments and their faith in Jesus. " We should live by the Holy Bible as our doctrine, not our doctrine instead of the Holy Bible. Just my thoughts. God Bless.
Question on 5:10... what about in Ac 13:1 where it says, "In the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers..."
Acts 13:1 THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BUILDING IT IS THE BODY OF CHRIST, AND CHRIST'S BODY IS NOT A BUILDING, IT'S THE BORN AGAIN BAPTISED DISCIPLES OF JESUS CHRIST.
Also the apostles often were dual income (self supporting themselves).
@Wayne. In what year was this film made ? I‘m also yearning to find a true NT house church, where the presence of the Lord is there.
Your so right sooooo right!!!
1 Corinthians 14:33-38 KJV
[33] For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. [34] Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. [35] And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. [36] What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? [37] If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. [38] But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
People, if there is anything that you are hearing and have heard, you better ask God to show you if that is true or false! Ask God to show you the truth! Pray this prayer: “Lord God, if there is anything that I’m hearing and have heard is true or false, show it to me. Show me the truth. Thank you, Lord. In Jesus Christ name I pray. Amen.” Share this!
Romans 16:5 Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.
Jesus Christ our true leader and the only way to the kingdom of God! We can't buy or earn our way to heaven through these church businesses we have today!
Husband of one wife.
Wow! This is excellent!!
While the home is the ideal church, a building isn't necessary bad.
Acts 19: 9But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus.
Beautiful song at the end. Title? Who is singing?
HAS ANYONE SEEN DOCUMENTARY CALLED BEWARE OF ANGELS?
Amen Amen Amen
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Pastor Richard Jordan, and Les Feldick TH-cam great teachings .
36 Was it from you that the word of God first went forth? Or has it come to you only?
37 If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. 38 But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.
39 Therefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues. 40 But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner.
26 What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret; 28 but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment. 30 But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, the first one must keep silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted; 32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets; 33 for God is not a God of confusion but of [m]peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
34 The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35 If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is [n]improper for a woman to speak in church. 36 Was it from you that the word of God first went forth? Or has it come to you only?
37 If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. 38 But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.
39 Therefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues. 40 But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner.
I Corinthians 14
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ
I love this video, but allow me to share a difference of opinion regarding the tithe for consideration
The tithe did not originate with the Mosaic law. The Bible says that Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek. Gen 14: 20.
Jacob also gave tithe. Gen 28:22
Both examples show that tithing goes way before Moses. And Abraham being the father of the children of faith, he is our example here.
Malachi says that withholding tithe is tantamount to robbing God. If we say that the sacrifice of Jesus exempts us from tithing, don't we mean, in other words, that the sacrifice of Christ licenses us to be robbers? "Thou shalt not steal" is a commandment for the New Testament also. Romans 13:9; Matthew 19:18
The tithe is holy. It goes to support full-time missionaries in both local and foreign missions.
The Bible in the new Testament says the labourer is worthy of his hire. I believe that to be the tithe. Though Paul preferred to labour with his hands to support himself. Which is also okay.
Good stuff but he doesn't understand that there are 6 tithes and only 1 has a curse.
Also seems to confuse covenant with law but the law was added to the law hundreds of years later.
I agree. Abraham paid a tithe to Melchizedek several hundred years before the law was given. Tithing is not legalistic, ideally it is our love offering to the Lord because He has done so much for us.
The church age will conclude in the same fashion it began… in the homes of the people. ✔️
Although I agree with some of the video's points and can understand a desire to rid the church of some of the more bureaucratic developments, I disagree with the conclusion. Some of the points made here are far too simplistic and fail to appreciate some of the proper and natural developments The Church has made over the centuries. The Church continued to grow after the NT writings came to a close, and I am not convinced that the "just get back to the bible" is an adequate response. It may be a slightly romanticized ideal. The church in the first century can teach us something, but we have the NT writings mainly because those in authority (apostles) were dealing with many issues in house churches. I don't think we should despise authority or structures of church governments. Instead, we should ensure we are not disobeying or breaking any commands as we worship. The Spirit has been at work in the Church from the beginning, and The Church's liturgies have a rich and profitable history which should be respected. I know of many house churches that eventually faced problems because of a lack of organized structure and respect for elders in the faith. There are no easy answers, but we should respect both approaches. I agree that every believer is a priest, but does that mean no one is called into ministry as a vocation? to minister as a life's work to God's people?
Do you have a church// group in IL ?
Hello, John. We may be able to help you. I'll try to respond to you when I talk to some workers tomorrow, I believe we have many churches in the homes of believers throughout the US and countries. What part of Illinois do you live in?
Where can I find a church of Acts in Aurora CO?
Just make sure that you ignore history and logic. Just go with the best salesman within the thousands of contradictory sects and you're good to go.
11:34, if hungry, eat at home.
WHAT DOES THE TREE HAVE TO DO WITH THE CHURCH ?
Jesus & his apostles favourite topic was the Kingdom of God, and there was only one view till Constantine (Historic or primitive pre mill).
Edifying has now taken on a new meaning. Its mostly for people loving fairytales..and any form of correction in all that is hateful..ugly..unbrotherly..accusing etc..Such is the spirit of WICKEDNESS among actual 'christians' today..So, its true that MANY , exactly as scripture says, will go to 'eternal damnation'...and that prolific WEEPING, is because all expect to simply teleport themselves into the Kingdom..on fables...
What about teaching others in the world about Christ!
What do you do if you start off with a small group in a home and then more people want to join it and your busting at the seams? Thats why you go to a church building that holds more people. If they just want money all the time, I would leave.
Can gather even in the open air..but if the weather condition is not good that might be a problem as well..anyway God will surely take care of his flock..just have faith..blessings
Open air. Or split it into more homes
Almost trinitarian doctrines all that churches name..