+Crowster it does my heart good to see ppls hearts being lifted for seeing ppls hearts being lifted who saw they're hearts being lifted for young ppl being free
Fact of this nature is acknowledged by people across the world when the doctrine and the narrative is cemented over and over for centuries in all institutions. Unfortunately the illusion is regarded as truth. Its a tool that has controlled human mind for centuries. Its pure stupidity for people to think that a man born of flesh was resurrected and went to heaven and that he raised people from the dead. That's pure blasphemy. I think there was a lost translation somewhere and/or someone wanted to continue with this doctrine of manipulation. Its sad that people have adopted the principle of paralysis of analysis when it comes to this dogma.
Some people need God because off the emotional behaver..because they are indoctrinated in the youth..God is like language, put in there minds like language, thats why..
@@tekelaful would a loving and caring God sacrifice his only begotten son firts God does not have son.s because he is not a human and second killing your first born was an ancient custom that Abraham was very familiar with it was done to pasified false god.s such as Baal an moloch do not be deceive by this rats
What a waste for this amazing thing called human becomings. Humans are so smart to create smartphones and the internet yet cannot answer this age old question once and for all the generations to understand. We also no longer believe Zeus is throwing lightning bolts from the heavens. Why should this be any different ?
@@The231447LucidDevTeamif someone accuses you of murder and tell you: "prove it. There is not any evidence that I killed anyone." Would you honestly require that person to PROVE that there isn't enough evidence that he's a murderer?
Christians tell me that the existence of god gives them a purpose. Yet they have never been able to tell me what that purpose is or how God told them. Is it the same for everyone? My life is fraught with purpose. I look around and see millions of things that need doing. I choose some as my purposes. This is far more fun and useful than going door to door peddling Christianity or praising god.
Getting to Heaven in the next life.... That's the purpose. Which comes with the added bonus of being able to look down and laugh at those inferior people who are burning in Hell.
@@dbarker7794 "Getting to Heaven in the next life.... That's the purpose. Which comes with the added bonus of being able to look down and laugh at those inferior people who are burning in Hell" Wow, that's the entertainment in Heaven ?, Joy in watching other people suffer ? Who does that make me think of, Oh Yeah, Hitler,Stalin,Khan,Etc,Etc,Etc What would happen to your Heaven if all the people in the future become Christian ? No more ENTERTAINMENT in Heaven for eternity What a bore PS, In your world, What's the colour of the sky ?
He did, via decomposing gases, worms, and other lifeforms transporting his molecules to the soil, and that soil nourished the plants, which nourished the animals. The absolute normal cycle of life. The best way to create an Atheist: Make a person read the bible and tell the person to take every word literal
IMHO, the main problem is that crucified criminals were never placed in a tomb. They were likely left on the cross to rot , then dumped in a mass grave. If the Romans wanted to keep people from taking the body, they would simply post a couple of guards to keep watch.
Even if there were guards there, the miracle itself would have allowed Jesus to rise. The story of His rising would still be told because He was the son of God, and the power of God would handle the guards.
@@Emy53 "the miracle itself would have allowed Jesus to rise. The story of His rising would still be told because He was the son of God, and the power of God would handle the guards." That statement shows you have FAITH not backed by facts or evidence And Jesus was one of many of who was claimed to have been born of a virgin Turned water into wine etc,etc,etc And why did he had to die for my sins ? wasn't even born yet ( 1951 ) and never ever have sinned in my life But I wasn't born an Atheist, Became one after really really reading the Bible with the help of Charles Templeton,Bart Erhart, John Shelby Spong, Richard Dawkins Sam Harris, Gretta Vosper, Christopher Hitchens, Etc,Etc,Etc But have been a proud Atheist since the late sixties All those Authors only made me realize that I wasn't the only one thinking so
You can't sue just because a picture of Jesus is hanging on a wall at a school. They have a right to believe even if you don't. You said so yourself that you need to show respect for their beliefs. I am conflicted with the Bible and its contents, but I respect the beliefs of others even if I don't.
@emy53 "You said so yourself that you need to show respect for their beliefs" WRONG, WRONG,WRONG I can and will respect the Man / Woman, But NOT their believes Would you really respect my believes in the "Sandman, Easter Bunny and leprechauns"
Dan Barker is great. Any religious believer who listens to this entire video will find that God cannot be real and that the resurrection is a delusion. Thanks for posting!
sweetshaman What is the evidence that you can provide to justify that the Atheist worldview is more true than to believe in a God? What are the facts that you can use to substantiate it as being true
@@corvanlopez5869 "What is the evidence that you can provide to justify that the Atheist worldview is more true than to believe in a God?" It is the believer who has to justify his belief If I would say Leprechauns exist, would I ask you to disprove that ? No, It's up to me to prove they do, Afterall I made the claim But go ahead, Explain to this 18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” 19 Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals. But for Adam no suitable helper was found. What was the original plan ? Adams mate was to be a Dog,Sheep,Etc ? Not to Adams liking, Hence plan B 21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[g] and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. Genesis 2:18-22 While I'm at it Why would a "loving God" save Lot from Sodom and Gomorrah 2 “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.” “No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.” 3 But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom-both young and old-surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.” 6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.” Genesis 19: 2 - 8 KJV Yeah, That's what every decent Father would do And read on pillar of salt ? really Then incest between Papa and his daughters, Wow That's the Christians worldview ? Really, Wow
I don't think one should come to a conclusion after one video. Its easy enough to listen to one man argue their side, and agree with them...UNTIL you hear their opponent which will argue in the opposite direction, and may have his own good arguments. One should deduce after looking at all sides, then continue to recheck each sides' views, facts presented, their conclusions, and then lastly one's own perspective, ensuring one is seeing it correctly, at least as correctly as possible. Also, it may take time to weed out inconsistencies in one's own viewpoint, so that's why continual re-view is important. Things don't look as they seem. All that said, I am considering Dan's arguments.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Dan Barker is the only, let's say, high honcho or The man from the atheist/free thinkers movement that speaks at these small venues like campuses, small atheist organizations, etc.. I don't think you could see Sam Harris do something like this, or Dawkins for example. Anyway kudos to you Dan..
Jesus was Jewish and he never intended to have anything to do with people who were not Jewish. Jesus said, "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15:24 It is wrong to say otherwise.
There is not one written eyewitness account of Jesus during his lifetime. Strange since he was famous at birth, because wise men expected to see the future king of Jews who was born from a virgin married mother. Every leading Christian scholar since Erasmus, five hundred years ago, has maintained that the gospels were originally written in Greek from 70 to 140 CE (Mark after the year 70, Luke about 110, Matthew about 130, and John no earlier than 140 CE). This proves that they were not written by Christ's apostles, disciples or by any of the early Christians. Others say: “There is no proof of the Gospels existing before 130 CE” Jesus is depicted as hugely popular in the gospels. Yet he is unrecorded by non-Biblical historians. Paul was the first one to write about Jesus around 60CE; but he, like everyone else, never saw Jesus. He experienced a vision of the resurrected Jesus. All myth! Seek the truth!
LOL !!! LOL !!! Matthew 24:34Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened... he was suppose to come 2000 years ago... HE LIED..... god does not live in your heart but in your mind.. is a delusion....
I believe the story of the child Bernadette, seeing the Virgin Mary over that bush, is so beautiful that many wanted to believe it. We have so much ugly in this world that people hold on to stories that bring them hope and peace.
@patbrennan "Young people are not atheists, atheism comes from years of wisdom and knowledge" . Not quite true I was brainwashed into the heavy duty Dutch Reformed Church From birth to when I became an Atheist in my late teens around the end of the sixties It was a scary battle at first, It's so ingrained that even thinking it would put me in Hell Been an Happy Atheist ever since
All children are born atheïsts and then they are indoctrinated from childhood on with all that supernatural nonsense of the religion of the parents and the community. And when they grow up, for many of them it is hard to shake it off. Even intelligent people put their reasoning abilities and critical thinking skills on hold as soon as their religion comes into play because of brainwashing at a very vulnerable age.
Reticulus, Ummm.....would you like to explain how 11 men went from running scared for their lives "changed" and were willing to be tortured, skinned alive, cut in half and martyred for your claimed "dead" man???
One True Faith, many people have subjected themselves to horrible things for what they believed. Think about modern day cults with tragic endings, and immoral wars that people believed were just wars, so they were willing to suffer and die for the cause. Do you believe everything you read? I mean, **Jesus didn't even write anything down himself,** and the authors of the gospels didn't claim to be eye-witnesses of Jesus. Historians tell us the gospels were written 40 - 70 years after Jesus died, and all we have are **copies-of-copies-of-copies-of-copies** The names, such as Mark and Mathew were assigned to those books because we don't know who the authors where. Today, a world leader or other famous person can be heard and 'witnessed' around the globe in a video. **God failed to appear to every individual despite being all powerful.** Check out books or lectures by Richard Carrier.
Well possibly, Which "belief" is more rational and logical??? Two people, one Christian the other Atheist, are walking through an apple orchard coming upon 300 apples "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart. The atheist concludes "nice accident" and continues walking. Obviously, not thinking anything more about it - as that is how he/she is brainwashed by "secular" society and his/her education to believe. On the other hand, the Christian sees the exact same 300 apples "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart, and concludes "WHO IN THE WORLD DID THAT?" Which has a more rational and logical conclusion??? Logically, behind "order" is an "orderer". Behind every "building" you see is a "builder" you cannot see. Behind an intelligent "design" is a intelligent "designer". Behind something that is "moving" there is a "mover" - that caused it to move. Now, let’s raise the "accident" odds. For me to write this post I have 3 Billion DNA "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart and for you to read this post you have 3 Billion DNA "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart, so over 6 Billion DNA working. Now, is that just a random "chance" and "accident" to have 6 Billion DNA in a "row" to carry on this conversation??? Is that really a logical and rational conclusion??? Please get to KNOW the supreme "orderer" of this universe, and what He expects out of your life to find "TRUE LIFE" ITSELF. Now, I recommend you watch former atheist Lee Strobel's "Case for the Creator", then read Josh McDowell's "Evidence Demands a Verdict". Follow the "Evidence", facts and "TRUTH" right into the ONE and ONLY established Church of Jesus Christ being the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH. May GOD open your eyes and heart guiding you to TRUTH HIMSELF Jesus Christ (John 14:6).
One True Faith, I'm up for a polite dialog if you are. You and I have likely been exposed to different things, so we can probably learn from each other. Regarding your post, your wrote, in part: "Which has a more rational and logical conclusion???....Behind every "building" you see is a "builder" you cannot see." Let's not forget snowflakes. They can be beautiful and look designed, yet they are 'built' naturally. Crystals is another example. I am an atheist, but with enough evidence, of course I would accept a creator played a role. Personally, I try to avoid choosing between only two options, such as:1) We had no creator. OR 2) YHWH is the creator. **Why YHWH out of the thousands of gods, or even an unrevealed god/deity? If I knew we had a creator, there would still be much work to be done to prove any specific holy book is correct and that the creator has specific characteristics, such as being omniscient, omnipotent, loving, or vengeful. Regarding the Bible, the Bible itself shows it is NOT trustworthy. It is full of contradictions and is about a vile, baby killing god, just for two examples. No offense intended. I'm fine with religious people. I just take a logical approach to holy books, and any book, for that matter. Anyway, I'm open, if you would like to discuss anything.
Maybe instead of taking away Reverends' tax exclusion for housing, we should give it to everyone. It seems unfair to tax people on money used for housing.
Oh, I do think God commands rape. God commands Raping in daylight: "Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall LIE WITH YOUR WIVES in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.' " (2 Samuel 12:11) This is completely in context of Samuel.
He could have been moved, but He had mortal wounds according to the writings. How was He able to walk around 3 days later in clean clothing and appearing unharmed???? Sometimes I feel bad when I say certain things because I feel I am betraying Him, even if I have doubts He was a real man and His story is real. That childhood fear instilled in me brings back these emotions.
"That childhood fear instilled in me brings back these emotions" Been there done that I too at first had a great struggle as a teen in the sixties after that I was mad at "God" and would never ever want to spent eternity in Heaven with "Him" It wasn't long after I gave up on the whole Idea of a "God" According to the "Good Book" We were good, But "God" wanted to test his own product and set a trap Put a tree there ( knowledge of good and evil ) but told them NOT to eat from it And when HIS creation failed the test , he blamed HIS creation Sounds a lot like Trump to me That's enough for now
The Bible was written 30 years after the actual events. It is a fable. Plain and simple. People with almost zero education claiming that god presented him to them. Stay strong it’s not real. Also your other post regarding the Jesus picture, yes you can sue. Education and religion need to be completely separated. Are you going to hang pictures of the other 10,000 gods that humans have created?
actually, your completely wrong on your history, the first gospels appear around 80ad, approx 50 years after jesus was supposedly crucified, and each story differs on how the events unfold, if these were written by people who knew jesus wouldnt there stories all match
Actually, this is the full context: Jesus is very cold to a certain woman who is not Jewish - HE calls her 'a dog' : "It is not right to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs. - Jesus, Matthew 15:26 In other words, “Go away. I’m only here to help the Jews.” If you think that’s a distortion of his meaning, it isn’t. Jesus comes right out and says it: "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel" - Jesus, Matthew 15:24
As it was getting dark when the body was placed in A tomb, if it was actually put in a tomb, the women came to the wrong tomb, AND it was still dark then too.
Jesus commands that we hate ourselves - yet as we also love ourselves? : "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yes, and HIS OWN LIFE also, he cannot be my disciple." -Luke 14:26 So to "love your neighbor as you LOVE YOURSELF" would mean nothing of importance because you already hating yourself as commanded by Jesus and you are sinful.
Funny thin is that Paul's conversion in the Book of Acts was written by Luke who also wrote part of the Gospels: the Gospel According to St. Luke! And 1st & 2nd Corinthians were Epistles (Letters) to the Church of Corinth. More evidence! :0)
If we were resurrected as Matthew 27:51-53 states would that not then make us zombies? Meaning to say- a corpse said to be revived by witchcraft, especially in certain African and Caribbean religions? Millions believe that you have an immortal soul that either goes to heaven or hell when you die. Yet the words “immortal soul” are nowhere to be found in your Bible. Think for a moment, if you already have an immortal soul then why do you need God? You already have something that lives forever inside of you, why would you need a relationship with God? The concept and teaching of the immortality of the soul do not come from the Bible! Philosophers like Plato and Socrates came up with the concept as they speculated about the state of the dead. What does the Bible really say about immortality?
Had to duck out of here because of the horrible audio. Listening to this on headphones is grinding on the eardrums ;) Maybe set up your audio recording properly next time, Michigan SSA. It's not hard; TH-cam is replete with tutorials.
Yes, because he’s expending so much energy to say he didn’t, don’t these people have anything else to do with their lives? I believe even more so because of these folk.
One has to have lived, before one can die, and Jesus was simply a character in a book that was compiled by men to start a new religion, foreign to, and offensive to Judaism. Not even one word can be found on planet earth in the hand-writing of the supposed Jesus, who was said to be the most learned man of letters in that era when all people that were able to write, wrote by hand. I also was raised in a Christian culture, but the stories never made any sense to me.
I am sorry but John is so late and come up with all kind of saying the others before never mentioned that these are just fraud and literary constructions.
you took that text out of context, he is clearly talking about the generation present before him... apostles, stated his 2nd coming was at the door.. 2000 years is not soon... you christans always take verses out of context and twisted with excuses and lame interpretations, which may work well for another believer who's looking for an answer, but to an atheist that means stupidity because we read the bible as another book with out interpretation or excuses... stay in context...
My goodness, if the churches are going to lie about these deities, they need to keep their stories straight..."was the tomb opened or closed 3 days later?...and there are conflicting stories between Luke and Mathew.
Jesus endorsed all of the killing in the Old Testament “...the scripture cannot be broken.” -- John 10:35 This is why Peter eagerly killed people as a result: "...Just outside that door are the young men who buried your husband, Ananais and they will carry you out, too.' Instantly, the wife of Ananais fell to the floor and died." Peter shows no forgiveness or loving of the neighbor. No turning of the other cheek. Instead the Law of Leviticus seems to be more important.
You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself any graven image. You shall not take the name of the Lord in vain. Remember the Lord's day, to keep it holy. Honor your father and your mother. You shall not kill. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not steal. You shall not bear false witness. You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods. "Love thy neighbor as yourself" is not a commandment. Why did Jesus create it?
Stone your neighbor's daughter to death? "But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst." (Deuteronomy 22:20-21) Suppose they were mistaken? There is no mercy.
The mainstream view among Bible scholars is actually that the Gospels were written in the first century. It's not just the view among conservatives as Dan Barker claims. Bart Ehrman, who is a leading agnostic Bible scholar, writes that ~70 AD is the most widely accepted date for the gospel of Mark; 80-85 AD for Matthew and Luke; and about 95 AD for the gospel of John. He seems to agree with those dates pretty much. Maurice Casey, another nonbeliever Bible scholar, actually tends to date the Gospels earlier. He makes various arguments in his book _Jesus of Nazareth_ that the gospel of Mark is from ~40 AD. Maurice Casey also says the gospel of John is not considered historical. Jesus had become theologized by that time, and the gospel of John presents him in terms of later Christian theology and myth. It tends to be conservative Christians who think the gospel of John is historical. Dating the Gospels to the 2nd century AD is an opinion that tends to come from nonbelievers who want to minimize them as historical evidence. This is kind of strange because miracle stories about Jesus don't imply Christianity is true. There are lots of miracle stories that Christians don't believe.
It never ceases to amaze me just how many actual believers are blissfully unaware of any of this. Instead labouring under the false idea they were written by eyewitnesses just after. But I doubt it will be something preached from the pulpit. Though the vast majority rarely ever read the book either.
rationalmartian Well, some Bible scholars think there are eyewitness accounts embedded in the Gospels, that may have been written soon after the events happened. Maurice Casey (a nonbeliever Bible scholar) thinks the Gospel of Matthew may contain written material from Jesus' disciple, Matthew the tax collector. (not that he wrote the whole Gospel) Maybe tax collectors would have been more likely to be literate. But the Gospels have a lot of contradictions and exaggerated miracle stories, so clearly a great deal was added later.
I know you dont hate christians. You hate christianity. And i really dont know why christianity would ever raise concernes. All our principles are positive: dont steal, dont cheat, dont make your own justice, etc. the only problem atheists can possibly have with christianity is when it tries to tell them off for their sin: homosexuality, abortion etc. people want to do wathever thry want without any dort of autorithy. This is the problem. I understand why you would be concerned about islam. You have lots of reasons indeed. But Gods law is good and there is nothing dark about it, by contrary it is light and it exposes peoples sim and deviation, hence the problem athrists have with the " danger" christianity poses to our society.
The word Resurrection was the wrong word to use.You said to be taken off the cross..meaning he was crucified for a period of time before the spear incident..no one can survive that...not even a few hours ( assuming of course it took his burial and his body anointment and the whole process a few hours) dont forget the beating he would have taken before. Thats what i meant
@8:13: The same kind of mind rot which causes religion also causes statism. Taxes are theft justified by all kinds of poorly justified mysticism (e.g. we agreed to it by social contract, we owe it to ourselves, it pays for the roads -- do the math , it is our "obligation", pay our "fair share" -- and how do you calculate this?). At the end of the day, most people pay taxes because of the social mysticism of this sort. A minority of skeptics like me pay because we will be locked up if we don't. If there is a person who can rationally justify paying it, then I have yet to meet this person. Many people think they can, but they always fall into emotionalism and collectivist thought (e.g. it must be right because "we" all agree) at the end. So my opinion is this: If some religious mystic idiot finds a loophole around the statist mystic tax system, then good for him. He is still a mystic idiot, but the taxes are still theft justified by other mystics. He has done an ethical action for unethical reasons.
Wait, how was there a church for Paul to write to in 50 AD if his is the first document? Was it all oral tradition? And that story travelled 1500 miles by land? Is that a poor game of telephone perhaps then?
43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
I am looking at the context....God encourages raping and plundering in about 22 places in the Bible. To 'ravish' a woman is clearly a sexual act: "Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, WOMEN RAVISHED; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city." (Zechariah 14:1-2) Is God good?
There is a need of multiplying books a hundredfold in this philosophical age to PREVENT coverts to atheism, for they seem too tough disputants to meddle with afterwards. CHARLES LAMB: Letter to S.T. Coleridge, May 27, 1796
What Law today are people under that requires a human sacrifice to pay for breaking that Law? Remember Romans 5:13- "Where there is no (Old Covenant) Law, sin is not taken into account."
Christians say free will cause all the suffering on earth, will there be free will in heaven? If there isn't, why would you want to go to heaven? If there is, then heaven would be like earth?
20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
Luke 21:13 And so YOU will bear testimony to me, (19)Stand firm, and YOU WILL win life, (20)When YOU SEE Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, (22)For THIS IS THE TIME of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written(32)Truly I tell you, THIS GENERATION will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.... if Jesus was refering to a future genration he should of said They not You, and That genration, not This generation... sorry for the disppointment...
"The Last Enemy Destroyed" 20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.
There's a surprising amount to unpack to answer this question, and some of it depends on what you mean. For starters, when you say "material" do you mean matter? Because there's no such thing as "living matter" or "non living matter". It's just matter, that is in a living system or not. A carbon atom is a carbon atom, regardless of whether it came from a human, a tree, a diamond, whatever. The first organisms would have formed from organic compounds, which do occur naturally (even out in space). How they formed is not entirely known at this point, but it wouldn't have been a one time event, there wouldn't have been a clunk changeover from organic compounds to organisms. It would have happened over time, with plenty of variability and almost certainly a number of what we'd think of as false starts. As for "random", well, if you mean undirected by a thinking mind then yes. But the chemical structures that formed those first organisms would have still operated as the chemicals they always were, as they still do, and their behavior is based on their conditions and chemical structure so it's deterministic- so no. The problem is that your question is built on misunderstandings. If the foundations of your questions are flawed, then the questions are always going to be unstable.
That was an Old Law for the Jews to keep women out of war. Keep it in Context! And: Matthew 22:34-39 New King James Version (NKJV) "The Scribes: Which Is the First Commandment of All?" 34 But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”
Stoning your neighbor's daughter to death or running her through with a sword is demanded in Deuteronomy. The Bible commands 'thou shalt not kill' in only one specific place. Yet... God insists that you MUST participate: "Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. (Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)
If god hates sinners why did Jesus give his disciples special power to kill people - is it not written 'thou shalt not kill'? Why does Jesus give this extra power to Peter to kill? It is an even stronger power than God gives to Himself! No one in Leviticus can die without a stoning being done by humans - yet Jesus gives special power to stop a beating heart to Peter! And if Peter can judge does this make him equal to Jesus?
Why I no longer believe in Jesus or in his resurrection: a simple reason why Jesus' tomb was empty! If I were Joseph of Arimathea, what do you think I would do if after taking Jesus down from the cross, I found that he was still alive albeit in a coma? The answer is simple: I would stage a mock burial as I can't possibly hand him back to the authorities to be crucified a second time. For this I would need help from James (Jesus' brother). The body I bore covered in linen to the cave-tomb wasn't a dead Jesus but his living brother, James! Meantime, I would have my friend Nicodemus tend to Jesus' wounds in some secret place! James would then let himself out of the cave-tomb sometime in the night! Incidentally, this was why the cave was chosen for a tomb as burying James in the ground would have killed him! This is the secret that Joseph of Arimathea, Nicodemus, James, Mary (Jesus' mother) and Jesus took with them to their graves! This also accounts for Jesus meeting Saul on the road to Damascus, resulting in the latter's conversion. Sadly, in fleeing Israel, Jesus was leaving his disciples in the lurch! But how do I know that it was James who took Jesus' place in the cave-tomb? Here's the evidence - straight from the bible itself! 1. James never spoke of Jesus' virgin birth, miracles and ascension to heaven! Like Jesus, James preached no gospel! All that Jesus allegedly preached in the Gospel of John (which was the last of the 4 gospels written) were works of poetic imagination as many of these key teachings were not mentioned in the other 3 gospels! For instant, the raising of Lazarus from the dead was never mentioned in the other 3 gospels! 2. James preached that "faith (i.e. faith in Jesus) without works is dead." This is a sharp contrast to what Peter, John and Paul preached i.e. one is not saved by works but by faith alone. 3. James warned of Christians whose tongues are like the rudder of ships i.e. they make mountains of molehills. He was referring to Peter, John and Paul and their claims that Jesus rose from the dead! 4. If Jesus was in the tomb, he would have been too grievously hurt, nor have the strength, to roll away the stone! It would take a person free of serious injuries to do that. 5. In the Book of Acts, Peter and Paul, rejecting the need for Gentile believers to be circumcised, criticized James for teaching that Gentile believers should be circumcised and abstain from blood and food offered to idols i.e. James was a devout follower adherent of Judaic practices. 6. Jesus himself said that he came to fulfill the law, and not to destroy it i.e. he too sought to fulfill Judaic laws. 7. Jesus was crucified not because he preached he was the Son of God (he in all probability never did - it was the gospel writers who proclaimed him to be the Son of God since they believed God raised him from the dead) but because he was critical of the hypocrisy and corruption of the pharisees and Sanhedrin. 8. Jesus' own family did not believe that he was the messiah or son of God. See John 7:5 9. On many occasions Jesus had to hide each time the Jews sought to harm him. After his so-called resurrection, he fled Israel for good (and met Saul on the road to Damascus) and was never seen or heard of again in the land of Israel. 10. If indeed Jesus was the way, the truth and the life, billions of unbelievers would go to hell. How then can one say that God is merciful when He doesn't seem to understand what forgiveness is! James and Jesus understood this better than the 4 unknown gospel writers, Peter, Paul and John. 11. Jesus could perform no miracles: Mark 6:5 - And he could there do no mighty work. Matthew 13:58: “And he did not do many miracles there because of their unbelief.” All of Jesus' miracles are myths! 12. Matthew 10:34-36 - "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household." Matthew 10:34-36 are heinous understatements Jesus made: As the purported Son of God, he did not foresee how his teachings would lead to the Holy Crusades and contribute to the Church's 1500 years of burning of people they consider heretics, apostates, blasphemers, and no less, the Jews for killing Jesus. 13. The gospel of Jesus was the gospel of Paul! He wrote most of the New Testament and his doctrines determine the doctrines in the 4 gospels. 14. The council at Nicaea chose the books that now make up the New Testaments. It rejected several other gospels, not least those that do not emphasize or speak of Jesus' resurrection. 15. Biblical characters in the Old Testament resorted to violence, trickery or deception to achieve their desired goals e.g. Kane killed Abel; Jacob deceived Isaac into believing he was Esau; Laban tricked Jacob into marrying Leah; David sent Uriah Heep into the thickest part of a battle so he would be killed and he could then marry Bathsheba; Peter and Paul offered money to the church at Jerusalem in the hope that James (then the leader at the church of Jerusalem) would be more amendable to their belief that Gentile could be part of the church without having to undergo Judaic rites (e.g. be circumcised) but James firmly rejected the offer! This circumcision requirement is recorded in Acts 15. My point is: who knows Jesus better and whose version of the gospel should one follow to be saved - James or Paul? 16. After taking Jesus down from the cross, Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus had to think of an ingenious way to save Jesus upon finding that he was still alive! Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus are 2 men in the New Testament you would want for friends! However, I couldn't help but wonder: is Joseph of Arimathea the itinerant Joseph of Bethlehem, Nazareth and Capernaum for who else may claim Jesus' body unless he were a close relative if not the father? 17. Look at the names of Jesus and his 4 brothers - James(aka Jacob); Joseph (aka Joses); Judah (aka Judas/Jude); Jesus (aka Joshua); and Simone. The order in which these names first appear in the book of Genesis suggests that James was the first-born; Joseph was the second; Judah was third; Jesus was fourth; and Simone, last! That would be the likely order when a Jew so wishes to name his 5 sons! If this is the case, then Jesus wasn't born of a virgin! In any case, human virgin birth has never before been witnessed. 18. Acts 1:9 -11 says of Jesus that 'a cloud received him out of their sight' into heaven. This is a violation of the laws of gravity. Further, without rocket-assisted propulsion, I doubt if after near-2000 years, Jesus has made it beyond Pluto! I am a born-again atheist. I seek only to know the truth. Years of pondering on the bible led me to my hypothesis that Jesus survived the cross. He would be appalled at what he and the Church had wittingly and/or unwittingly done! I rest my case.
Watching this on a Sunday morning while the family is at church.
It does my heart good to see young people who have freed themselves from harmful religious dogma...
It does my heart good to see ppls hearts being lifted for young ppl being free.
+thetruhoss It does my heart good to see ppls hearts being lifted for seeing ppls hearts being lifted for young ppl being free.
+Crowster it does my heart good to see ppls hearts being lifted for seeing ppls hearts being lifted who saw they're hearts being lifted for young ppl being free
It does my heart good, but this thread hurts my head. :)
My PP hard.
The real question is:
Does the world need to believe that a man had to be crucified and then rise from the dead?
No.
Fact of this nature is acknowledged by people across the world when the doctrine and the narrative is cemented over and over for centuries in all institutions. Unfortunately the illusion is regarded as truth. Its a tool that has controlled human mind for centuries. Its pure stupidity for people to think that a man born of flesh was resurrected and went to heaven and that he raised people from the dead. That's pure blasphemy. I think there was a lost translation somewhere and/or someone wanted to continue with this doctrine of manipulation. Its sad that people have adopted the principle of paralysis of analysis when it comes to this dogma.
Some people need God because off the emotional behaver..because they are indoctrinated in the youth..God is like language, put in there minds like language, thats why..
Fish Dawn how so? How is it blasphemy? Just trying to understand.
yes a world in its infancy like a 3 year old who love fairy tales
@@tekelaful would a loving and caring God sacrifice his only begotten son firts God does not have son.s because he is not a human and second killing your first born was an ancient custom that Abraham was very familiar with it was done to pasified false god.s such as Baal an moloch do not be deceive by this rats
Why do Christians say that atheists hate your god? They don't hate. That's a wasted emotion. They just don't believe as you do.
+Noahs Ark Yes. I hate god as much as I hate unicorns and pixies. ie: I don't hate any of them because they don't exist
@@billkeon880 It's God!!
You can’t hate something you don’t believe in.
The god of the bible is inherently immoral and isn't worthy of worship which is why I became an atheist.
Right..
I CAN'T HATE what I DON'T BELIEVE in.
Dan is an eloquent skeptic, I have met him a bunch of tines and I always look forward to listening to his ideas.
Wow, I'd love to have actually met him
bunch of tines?
Religion is a business and as such must be taxed like all others. Churches should pay property taxes too.
The idea that God killed his own son, but God didn't just kill Satan right from the beginning, is ludacris.
Exactly.. just like the majority of religion based stories.
God did not kill His own son. The Jews did.
An atheist says there is not enough evidence for a god. He does not say there is no god. No burden of proof.
Until someone proves there is a god, there is NO god!
What a waste for this amazing thing called human becomings.
Humans are so smart to create smartphones and the internet yet cannot answer this age old question once and for all the generations to understand.
We also no longer believe Zeus is throwing lightning bolts from the heavens. Why should this be any different ?
@@The231447LucidDevTeamif someone accuses you of murder and tell you: "prove it. There is not any evidence that I killed anyone."
Would you honestly require that person to PROVE that there isn't enough evidence that he's a murderer?
A hugely talented man.
He's also a professional musician who has written numerous "atheist" songs that are right on point.
Very interesting and funny.
Christians tell me that the existence of god gives them a purpose. Yet they have never been able to tell me what that purpose is or how God told them. Is it the same for everyone?
My life is fraught with purpose. I look around and see millions of things that need doing. I choose some as my purposes. This is far more fun and useful than going door to door peddling Christianity or praising god.
@Roedy- Hear! Hear!
Getting to Heaven in the next life.... That's the purpose. Which comes with the added bonus of being able to look down and laugh at those inferior people who are burning in Hell.
@@dbarker7794
"Getting to Heaven in the next life.... That's the purpose. Which comes with the added bonus of being able to look down and laugh at those inferior people who are burning in Hell"
Wow, that's the entertainment in Heaven ?, Joy in watching other people suffer ?
Who does that make me think of, Oh Yeah, Hitler,Stalin,Khan,Etc,Etc,Etc
What would happen to your Heaven if all the people in the future become Christian ?
No more ENTERTAINMENT in Heaven for eternity
What a bore
PS, In your world, What's the colour of the sky ?
who else got tired of the introduction 5 seconds in?
He did, via decomposing gases, worms, and other lifeforms transporting his molecules to the soil, and that soil nourished the plants, which nourished the animals.
The absolute normal cycle of life.
The best way to create an Atheist: Make a person read the bible and tell the person to take every word literal
IMHO, the main problem is that crucified criminals were never placed in a tomb. They were likely left on the cross to rot , then dumped in a mass grave. If the Romans wanted to keep people from taking the body, they would simply post a couple of guards to keep watch.
Even if there were guards there, the miracle itself would have allowed Jesus to rise. The story of His rising would still be told because He was the son of God, and the power of God would handle the guards.
@@Emy53 Do we have any reports from those guards? Or the local reporters of the time? All these witnesses and yet no first-hand accounts.
@@Emy53
"the miracle itself would have allowed Jesus to rise. The story of His rising would still be told because He was the son of God, and the power of God would handle the guards."
That statement shows you have FAITH not backed by facts or evidence
And Jesus was one of many of who was claimed to have been born of a virgin
Turned water into wine etc,etc,etc
And why did he had to die for my sins ?
wasn't even born yet ( 1951 ) and never ever have sinned in my life
But I wasn't born an Atheist, Became one after really really reading the Bible
with the help of Charles Templeton,Bart Erhart, John Shelby Spong, Richard Dawkins
Sam Harris, Gretta Vosper, Christopher Hitchens, Etc,Etc,Etc
But have been a proud Atheist since the late sixties
All those Authors only made me realize that I wasn't the only one thinking so
Dan is the man!
Religion has been a real money earner without parallel...amen
You can't sue just because a picture of Jesus is hanging on a wall at a school. They have a right to believe even if you don't. You said so yourself that you need to show respect for their beliefs. I am conflicted with the Bible and its contents, but I respect the beliefs of others even if I don't.
The issue is if someone has a right to make you look at a picture of Jesus in a public space.
@emy53
"You said so yourself that you need to show respect for their beliefs"
WRONG, WRONG,WRONG
I can and will respect the Man / Woman, But NOT their believes
Would you really respect my believes in the "Sandman, Easter Bunny and leprechauns"
A more interesting and relevant question is whether or not Jesus existed as a historic person.
There is no credible historian that claims Jesus did not exist.
Water to the front row, please.
Dan Barker is great. Any religious believer who listens to this entire video will find that God cannot be real and that the resurrection is a delusion.
Thanks for posting!
sweetshaman What is the evidence that you can provide to justify that the Atheist worldview is more true than to believe in a God? What are the facts that you can use to substantiate it as being true
@@corvanlopez5869
"What is the evidence that you can provide to justify that the Atheist worldview is more true than to believe in a God?"
It is the believer who has to justify his belief
If I would say Leprechauns exist, would I ask you to disprove that ?
No, It's up to me to prove they do, Afterall I made the claim
But go ahead, Explain to this
18
The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
19 Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name.
20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals.
But for Adam no suitable helper was found.
What was the original plan ?
Adams mate was to be a Dog,Sheep,Etc ?
Not to Adams liking, Hence plan B
21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[g] and then closed up the place with flesh.
22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
Genesis 2:18-22
While I'm at it
Why would a "loving God" save Lot from Sodom and Gomorrah
2 “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.”
“No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.”
3 But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate.
4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom-both young and old-surrounded the house.
5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”
6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing.
8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”
Genesis 19: 2 - 8 KJV
Yeah, That's what every decent Father would do
And read on
pillar of salt ? really
Then incest between Papa and his daughters, Wow
That's the Christians worldview ?
Really, Wow
I don't think one should come to a conclusion after one video. Its easy enough to listen to one man argue their side, and agree with them...UNTIL you hear their opponent which will argue in the opposite direction, and may have his own good arguments. One should deduce after looking at all sides, then continue to recheck each sides' views, facts presented, their conclusions, and then lastly one's own perspective, ensuring one is seeing it correctly, at least as correctly as possible.
Also, it may take time to weed out inconsistencies in one's own viewpoint, so that's why continual re-view is important. Things don't look as they seem.
All that said, I am considering Dan's arguments.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Dan Barker is the only, let's say, high honcho or The man from the atheist/free thinkers movement that speaks at these small venues like campuses, small atheist organizations, etc.. I don't think you could see Sam Harris do something like this, or Dawkins for example. Anyway kudos to you Dan..
Richard Carrier has given small venue book talks. Prob Robert Price too (though I'm not sure).
Jesus was Jewish and he never intended to have anything to do with people who were not Jewish.
Jesus said, "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15:24
It is wrong to say otherwise.
There is not one written eyewitness account of Jesus during his lifetime. Strange since he was famous at birth, because wise men expected to see the future king of Jews who was born from a virgin married mother. Every leading Christian scholar since Erasmus, five hundred years ago, has maintained that the gospels were originally written in Greek from 70 to 140 CE (Mark after the year 70, Luke about 110, Matthew about 130, and John no earlier than 140 CE). This proves that they were not written by Christ's apostles, disciples or by any of the early Christians.
Others say: “There is no proof of the Gospels existing before 130 CE”
Jesus is depicted as hugely popular in the gospels. Yet he is unrecorded by non-Biblical historians.
Paul was the first one to write about Jesus around 60CE; but he, like everyone else, never saw Jesus. He experienced a vision of the resurrected Jesus. All myth! Seek the truth!
@Have_At_IT Have you got a better one? One that can be backed up with reliable information.
Dr. Lee Strobel does a far better job in explaining all of this.
hallelujah!
i must adopt this child molester tactic
Was this filmed with a Bible?
***** I'll bet the 11th commandment was on video quality lol. "Thou shalt not use this book as a recording medium."
FreeHomeBrew :D rofl
***** Filmed with a bible, and the Pope behind the camera (probably with a little boy...)
***** No, a potato
+Groaznic Brilliant comment! I wish it were mine....
Dat dude coughing in da background tho.... what's dat abt?!...😅
LOL !!! LOL !!! Matthew 24:34Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened... he was suppose to come 2000 years ago... HE LIED..... god does not live in your heart but in your mind.. is a delusion....
I believe the story of the child Bernadette, seeing the Virgin Mary over that bush, is so beautiful that many wanted to believe it. We have so much ugly in this world that people hold on to stories that bring them hope and peace.
Wow your level of evidence required is frighteningly low
hmmm, one hotel room, ... his 'assistant', ... appears that Dinesh has been 'dipping his wick' in an non-biblical fashion?
Young people are not atheists, atheism comes from years of wisdom and knowledge.
@patbrennan
"Young people are not atheists, atheism comes from years of wisdom and knowledge"
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Not quite true
I was brainwashed into the heavy duty Dutch Reformed Church
From birth to when I became an Atheist in my late teens around the end of the sixties
It was a scary battle at first, It's so ingrained that even thinking it would put me in Hell
Been an Happy Atheist ever since
All children are born atheïsts and then they are indoctrinated from childhood on with all that supernatural nonsense of the religion of the parents and the community. And when they grow up, for many of them it is hard to shake it off. Even intelligent people put their reasoning abilities and critical thinking skills on hold as soon as their religion comes into play because of brainwashing at a very vulnerable age.
Did Jesus Really Rise From the Dead?
Answer: No
Spoiler alert!
Reticulus,
Ummm.....would you like to explain how 11 men went from running scared for their lives "changed" and were willing to be tortured, skinned alive, cut in half and martyred for your claimed "dead" man???
One True Faith, many people have subjected themselves to horrible things for what they believed. Think about modern day cults with tragic endings, and immoral wars that people believed were just wars, so they were willing to suffer and die for the cause.
Do you believe everything you read? I mean, **Jesus didn't even write anything down himself,** and the authors of the gospels didn't claim to be eye-witnesses of Jesus.
Historians tell us the gospels were written 40 - 70 years after Jesus died, and all we have are **copies-of-copies-of-copies-of-copies**
The names, such as Mark and Mathew were assigned to those books because we don't know who the authors where.
Today, a world leader or other famous person can be heard and 'witnessed' around the globe in a video. **God failed to appear to every individual despite being all powerful.**
Check out books or lectures by Richard Carrier.
Well possibly,
Which "belief" is more rational and logical???
Two people, one Christian the other Atheist, are walking through an apple orchard coming upon 300 apples "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart.
The atheist concludes "nice accident" and continues walking. Obviously, not thinking anything more about it - as that is how he/she is brainwashed by "secular" society and his/her education to believe.
On the other hand, the Christian sees the exact same 300 apples "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart, and concludes "WHO IN THE WORLD DID THAT?"
Which has a more rational and logical conclusion???
Logically, behind "order" is an "orderer". Behind every "building" you see is a "builder" you cannot see.
Behind an intelligent "design" is a intelligent "designer". Behind something that is "moving" there is a "mover" - that caused it to move.
Now, let’s raise the "accident" odds. For me to write this post I have 3 Billion DNA "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart and for you to read this post you have 3 Billion DNA "perfectly" in a row and "evenly" spaced apart, so over 6 Billion DNA working. Now, is that just a random "chance" and "accident" to have 6 Billion DNA in a "row" to carry on this conversation???
Is that really a logical and rational conclusion???
Please get to KNOW the supreme "orderer" of this universe, and what He expects out of your life to find "TRUE LIFE" ITSELF.
Now, I recommend you watch former atheist Lee Strobel's "Case for the Creator", then read Josh McDowell's "Evidence Demands a Verdict".
Follow the "Evidence", facts and "TRUTH" right into the ONE and ONLY established Church of Jesus Christ being the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH.
May GOD open your eyes and heart guiding you to TRUTH HIMSELF Jesus Christ (John 14:6).
One True Faith, I'm up for a polite dialog if you are. You and I have likely been exposed to different things, so we can probably learn from each other.
Regarding your post, your wrote, in part:
"Which has a more rational and logical conclusion???....Behind every "building" you see is a "builder" you cannot see."
Let's not forget snowflakes. They can be beautiful and look designed, yet they are 'built' naturally. Crystals is another example.
I am an atheist, but with enough evidence, of course I would accept a creator played a role.
Personally, I try to avoid choosing between only two options, such as:1) We had no creator.
OR
2) YHWH is the creator.
**Why YHWH out of the thousands of gods, or even an unrevealed god/deity?
If I knew we had a creator, there would still be much work to be done to prove any specific holy book is correct and that the creator has specific characteristics, such as being omniscient, omnipotent, loving, or vengeful.
Regarding the Bible, the Bible itself shows it is NOT trustworthy. It is full of contradictions and is about a vile, baby killing god, just for two examples.
No offense intended. I'm fine with religious people. I just take a logical approach to holy books, and any book, for that matter.
Anyway, I'm open, if you would like to discuss anything.
That person coughing needs to GTFO
good point never realized it...
1 in 3 , the carrier calculation is as good as it gets.
Maybe instead of taking away Reverends' tax exclusion for housing, we should give it to everyone. It seems unfair to tax people on money used for housing.
Oh, I do think God commands rape.
God commands Raping in daylight:
"Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall LIE WITH YOUR WIVES in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.' " (2 Samuel 12:11)
This is completely in context of Samuel.
Jesus never exited, he was created by Saul/Paul.
He could have been moved, but He had mortal wounds according to the writings. How was He able to walk around 3 days later in clean clothing and appearing unharmed????
Sometimes I feel bad when I say certain things because I feel I am betraying Him, even if I have doubts He was a real man and His story is real. That childhood fear instilled in me brings back these emotions.
Um.. it was a miracle.
"That childhood fear instilled in me brings back these emotions"
Been there done that
I too at first had a great struggle as a teen in the sixties
after that I was mad at "God" and would never ever want to spent eternity in Heaven with "Him"
It wasn't long after I gave up on the whole Idea of a "God"
According to the "Good Book" We were good,
But "God" wanted to test his own product and set a trap
Put a tree there ( knowledge of good and evil ) but told them NOT to eat from it
And when HIS creation failed the test , he blamed HIS creation
Sounds a lot like Trump to me
That's enough for now
The Bible was written 30 years after the actual events. It is a fable. Plain and simple. People with almost zero education claiming that god presented him to them. Stay strong it’s not real. Also your other post regarding the Jesus picture, yes you can sue. Education and religion need to be completely separated. Are you going to hang pictures of the other 10,000 gods that humans have created?
He did !! I was there , was writing grafftie on the wall
actually, your completely wrong on your history, the first gospels appear around 80ad, approx 50 years after jesus was supposedly crucified, and each story differs on how the events unfold, if these were written by people who knew jesus wouldnt there stories all match
Actually, this is the full context:
Jesus is very cold to a certain woman who is not Jewish - HE calls her 'a dog' :
"It is not right to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs. - Jesus, Matthew 15:26
In other words, “Go away. I’m only here to help the Jews.”
If you think that’s a distortion of his meaning, it isn’t. Jesus comes right out and says it:
"I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel" - Jesus, Matthew 15:24
just because the bible has many discrepancies and contradictions that doesnt mean that God doesnt exist!
Doesn't mean he does either
@@SNORKYMEDIA of course he exidts he has to. life didnt come into existence from nothing
@@SNORKYMEDIA the universe, the stars, the planets, life didnt get created on its own, thats common sense
@@robertosso5210you are so wrong. Go watch Lawrence Krauss a universe from nothing. Anything else?
@@thebuffalo2263 the universe had to be created from God thats common sense
Jesus needs to work a miracle to get the sound right ...
As it was getting dark when the body was placed in A tomb, if it was actually put in a tomb, the women came to the wrong tomb, AND it was still dark then too.
only one problem though nobody act survives a resurrection...very improbable
Jesus fuck who is coughing? Are they dying?
It’s the sort of ridiculous question which deserves only ridiculous answers.
I do not believe Jesus rise from the dead.?
Jesus will rise from the dead when pigs fly
@Jubei Yang And there they go, the porcine air craft display team.
You have to sue the "law makers" because they're the ones that pass on the laws to the IRS.
What is the matter with the bible authors they did not edit out these inconsistencies, or write one unified gospel.
Was that person going to cough up and spit out a lung???
FFS
WTF
You are not thinking for yourself. You are being a parrot of biblical verses.
Jesus commands that we hate ourselves - yet as we also love ourselves? :
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yes, and HIS OWN LIFE also, he cannot be my disciple." -Luke 14:26
So to "love your neighbor as you LOVE YOURSELF" would mean nothing of importance because you already hating yourself as commanded by Jesus and you are sinful.
This is dangerous
What's irony is the God of the bible claims to be truth, but in my experience truth doesn't exist in the God of the bible. Glad I left christianity
Mr Jabez Raju are you Indian
@@dolostat6284 yep I am from India
Funny thin is that Paul's conversion in the Book of Acts was written by Luke who also wrote part of the Gospels: the Gospel According to St. Luke! And 1st & 2nd Corinthians were Epistles (Letters) to the Church of Corinth. More evidence! :0)
If we were resurrected as Matthew 27:51-53 states would that not then make us zombies? Meaning to say- a corpse said to be revived by witchcraft, especially in certain African and Caribbean religions?
Millions believe that you have an immortal soul that either goes to heaven or hell when you die. Yet the words “immortal soul” are nowhere to be found in your Bible. Think for a moment, if you already have an immortal soul then why do you need God? You already have something that lives forever inside of you, why would you need a relationship with God? The concept and teaching of the immortality of the soul do not come from the Bible! Philosophers like Plato and Socrates came up with the concept as they speculated about the state of the dead. What does the Bible really say about immortality?
Had to duck out of here because of the horrible audio. Listening to this on headphones is grinding on the eardrums ;) Maybe set up your audio recording properly next time, Michigan SSA. It's not hard; TH-cam is replete with tutorials.
Yes, because he’s expending so much energy to say he didn’t, don’t these people have anything else to do with their lives? I believe even more so because of these folk.
This person coughing should be stoned.
Amen
So irritating.
One has to have lived, before one can die, and Jesus was simply a character in a book that was compiled by men to start a new religion, foreign to, and offensive to Judaism. Not even one word can be found on planet earth in the hand-writing of the supposed Jesus, who was said to be the most learned man of letters in that era when all people that were able to write, wrote by hand. I also was raised in a Christian culture, but the stories never made any sense to me.
skip to 2:35 to get to Dan Barker
I am sorry but John is so late and come up with all kind of saying the others before never mentioned that these are just fraud and literary constructions.
We are many. We need not fear. We are right to demand freedom from ill minds.
you took that text out of context, he is clearly talking about the generation present before him... apostles, stated his 2nd coming was at the door.. 2000 years is not soon... you christans always take verses out of context and twisted with excuses and lame interpretations, which may work well for another believer who's looking for an answer, but to an atheist that means stupidity because we read the bible as another book with out interpretation or excuses... stay in context...
My goodness, if the churches are going to lie about these deities, they need to keep their stories straight..."was the tomb opened or closed 3 days later?...and there are conflicting stories between Luke and Mathew.
If Jesus was real then the death burial and ressurection should have ended the story.
The only thing that I can believe that it will rise up from death is my grandpa. Manhood to play with Grandma
Jesus endorsed all of the killing in the Old Testament
“...the scripture cannot be broken.” -- John 10:35
This is why Peter eagerly killed people as a result:
"...Just outside that door are the young men who buried your husband, Ananais and they will carry you out, too.' Instantly, the wife of Ananais fell to the floor and died."
Peter shows no forgiveness or loving of the neighbor. No turning of the other cheek.
Instead the Law of Leviticus seems to be more important.
YES!!!
You shall have no other gods before me.
You shall not make for yourself any graven image.
You shall not take the name of the Lord in vain.
Remember the Lord's day, to keep it holy.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not kill.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness.
You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods.
"Love thy neighbor as yourself" is not a commandment. Why did Jesus create it?
What good can be said ? - This is the West where freedom of belief and speech are at the moment enshrined in law and general culture. That is good.
Stone your neighbor's daughter to death?
"But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst." (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
Suppose they were mistaken? There is no mercy.
Did Jesus Really Rise From the Dead? No. You rise from out of a dead body. Maybe, if you know what I do and run from religion.
The mainstream view among Bible scholars is actually that the Gospels were written in the first century. It's not just the view among conservatives as Dan Barker claims.
Bart Ehrman, who is a leading agnostic Bible scholar, writes that ~70 AD is the most widely accepted date for the gospel of Mark; 80-85 AD for Matthew and Luke; and about 95 AD for the gospel of John. He seems to agree with those dates pretty much.
Maurice Casey, another nonbeliever Bible scholar, actually tends to date the Gospels earlier. He makes various arguments in his book _Jesus of Nazareth_ that the gospel of Mark is from ~40 AD.
Maurice Casey also says the gospel of John is not considered historical. Jesus had become theologized by that time, and the gospel of John presents him in terms of later Christian theology and myth. It tends to be conservative Christians who think the gospel of John is historical.
Dating the Gospels to the 2nd century AD is an opinion that tends to come from nonbelievers who want to minimize them as historical evidence. This is kind of strange because miracle stories about Jesus don't imply Christianity is true. There are lots of miracle stories that Christians don't believe.
It never ceases to amaze me just how many actual believers are blissfully unaware of any of this. Instead labouring under the false idea they were written by eyewitnesses just after. But I doubt it will be something preached from the pulpit.
Though the vast majority rarely ever read the book either.
rationalmartian
Well, some Bible scholars think there are eyewitness accounts embedded in the Gospels, that may have been written soon after the events happened. Maurice Casey (a nonbeliever Bible scholar) thinks the Gospel of Matthew may contain written material from Jesus' disciple, Matthew the tax collector. (not that he wrote the whole Gospel) Maybe tax collectors would have been more likely to be literate.
But the Gospels have a lot of contradictions and exaggerated miracle stories, so clearly a great deal was added later.
I know you dont hate christians. You hate christianity. And i really dont know why christianity would ever raise concernes. All our principles are positive: dont steal, dont cheat, dont make your own justice, etc. the only problem atheists can possibly have with christianity is when it tries to tell them off for their sin: homosexuality, abortion etc. people want to do wathever thry want without any dort of autorithy. This is the problem. I understand why you would be concerned about islam. You have lots of reasons indeed. But Gods law is good and there is nothing dark about it, by contrary it is light and it exposes peoples sim and deviation, hence the problem athrists have with the " danger" christianity poses to our society.
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What do you think is wrong about someone being gay?
Ops, sorry, now i realise i was supposed to reply to another gentleman, not to you
The word Resurrection was the wrong word to use.You said to be taken off the cross..meaning he was crucified for a period of time before the spear incident..no one can survive that...not even a few hours ( assuming of course it took his burial and his body anointment and the whole process a few hours) dont forget the beating he would have taken before. Thats what i meant
@8:13: The same kind of mind rot which causes religion also causes statism. Taxes are theft justified by all kinds of poorly justified mysticism (e.g. we agreed to it by social contract, we owe it to ourselves, it pays for the roads -- do the math , it is our "obligation", pay our "fair share" -- and how do you calculate this?). At the end of the day, most people pay taxes because of the social mysticism of this sort. A minority of skeptics like me pay because we will be locked up if we don't. If there is a person who can rationally justify paying it, then I have yet to meet this person. Many people think they can, but they always fall into emotionalism and collectivist thought (e.g. it must be right because "we" all agree) at the end.
So my opinion is this: If some religious mystic idiot finds a loophole around the statist mystic tax system, then good for him. He is still a mystic idiot, but the taxes are still theft justified by other mystics. He has done an ethical action for unethical reasons.
But the Spirit clearly says that in the last times some will fall away from the faith, listening to deceitful spirits… 2Tim 4:1
A book says a thing
Wait, how was there a church for Paul to write to in 50 AD if his is the first document? Was it all oral tradition? And that story travelled 1500 miles by land? Is that a poor game of telephone perhaps then?
43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
No credible evidence Jesus was a historical person, and not a fictional character.
I am looking at the context....God encourages raping and plundering in about 22 places in the Bible.
To 'ravish' a woman is clearly a sexual act:
"Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, WOMEN RAVISHED; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city." (Zechariah 14:1-2)
Is God good?
There is a need of multiplying books a hundredfold in this philosophical age to PREVENT coverts to atheism, for they seem too tough disputants to meddle with afterwards. CHARLES LAMB: Letter to S.T. Coleridge, May 27, 1796
No, he did not.
He could not do, because he never existed realy, only in the mind of the stupid.
What Law today are people under that requires a human sacrifice to pay for breaking that Law?
Remember Romans 5:13- "Where there is no (Old Covenant) Law, sin is not taken into account."
Christians say free will cause all the suffering on earth, will there be free will in heaven? If there isn't, why would you want to go to heaven? If there is, then heaven would be like earth?
hundreds of contradictions.
20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
18:30 Urim & Thummim
Luke 21:13 And so YOU will bear testimony to me, (19)Stand firm, and YOU WILL win life, (20)When YOU SEE Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, (22)For THIS IS THE TIME of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written(32)Truly I tell you, THIS GENERATION will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.... if Jesus was refering to a future genration he should of said They not You, and That genration, not This generation... sorry for the disppointment...
"The Last Enemy Destroyed"
20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.
Did the first organism arise from non living material by a random causation?
There's a surprising amount to unpack to answer this question, and some of it depends on what you mean. For starters, when you say "material" do you mean matter? Because there's no such thing as "living matter" or "non living matter". It's just matter, that is in a living system or not. A carbon atom is a carbon atom, regardless of whether it came from a human, a tree, a diamond, whatever.
The first organisms would have formed from organic compounds, which do occur naturally (even out in space). How they formed is not entirely known at this point, but it wouldn't have been a one time event, there wouldn't have been a clunk changeover from organic compounds to organisms. It would have happened over time, with plenty of variability and almost certainly a number of what we'd think of as false starts.
As for "random", well, if you mean undirected by a thinking mind then yes. But the chemical structures that formed those first organisms would have still operated as the chemicals they always were, as they still do, and their behavior is based on their conditions and chemical structure so it's deterministic- so no.
The problem is that your question is built on misunderstandings. If the foundations of your questions are flawed, then the questions are always going to be unstable.
That was an Old Law for the Jews to keep women out of war. Keep it in Context! And:
Matthew 22:34-39 New King James Version (NKJV)
"The Scribes: Which Is the First Commandment of All?"
34 But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”
If i had to give an answer id have to say definitely not.
At least without roman assistance and approval. Certainly not.
Hebrew tombs weren't large enough to stand up in.
Stoning your neighbor's daughter to death or running her through with a sword is demanded in Deuteronomy.
The Bible commands 'thou shalt not kill' in only one specific place.
Yet...
God insists that you MUST participate:
"Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. (Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)
Wow
If god hates sinners why did Jesus give his disciples special power to kill people - is it not written 'thou shalt not kill'?
Why does Jesus give this extra power to Peter to kill? It is an even stronger power than God gives to Himself!
No one in Leviticus can die without a stoning being done by humans - yet Jesus gives special power to stop a beating heart to Peter!
And if Peter can judge does this make him equal to Jesus?
Why I no longer believe in Jesus or in his resurrection: a simple reason why Jesus' tomb was empty!
If I were Joseph of Arimathea, what do you think I would do if after taking Jesus down from the cross, I found that he was still alive albeit in a coma? The answer is simple: I would stage a mock burial as I can't possibly hand him back to the authorities to be crucified a second time. For this I would need help from James (Jesus' brother). The body I bore covered in linen to the cave-tomb wasn't a dead Jesus but his living brother, James! Meantime, I would have my friend Nicodemus tend to Jesus' wounds in some secret place! James would then let himself out of the cave-tomb sometime in the night! Incidentally, this was why the cave was chosen for a tomb as burying James in the ground would have killed him! This is the secret that Joseph of Arimathea, Nicodemus, James, Mary (Jesus' mother) and Jesus took with them to their graves! This also accounts for Jesus meeting Saul on the road to Damascus, resulting in the latter's conversion. Sadly, in fleeing Israel, Jesus was leaving his disciples in the lurch! But how do I know that it was James who took Jesus' place in the cave-tomb? Here's the evidence - straight from the bible itself!
1. James never spoke of Jesus' virgin birth, miracles and ascension to heaven! Like Jesus, James preached no gospel! All that Jesus allegedly preached in the Gospel of John (which was the last of the 4 gospels written) were works of poetic imagination as many of these key teachings were not mentioned in the other 3 gospels! For instant, the raising of Lazarus from the dead was never mentioned in the other 3 gospels!
2. James preached that "faith (i.e. faith in Jesus) without works is dead." This is a sharp contrast to what Peter, John and Paul preached i.e. one is not saved by works but by faith alone.
3. James warned of Christians whose tongues are like the rudder of ships i.e. they make mountains of molehills. He was referring to Peter, John and Paul and their claims that Jesus rose from the dead!
4. If Jesus was in the tomb, he would have been too grievously hurt, nor have the strength, to roll away the stone! It would take a person free of serious injuries to do that.
5. In the Book of Acts, Peter and Paul, rejecting the need for Gentile believers to be circumcised, criticized James for teaching that Gentile believers should be circumcised and abstain from blood and food offered to idols i.e. James was a devout follower adherent of Judaic practices.
6. Jesus himself said that he came to fulfill the law, and not to destroy it i.e. he too sought to fulfill Judaic laws.
7. Jesus was crucified not because he preached he was the Son of God (he in all probability never did - it was the gospel writers who proclaimed him to be the Son of God since they believed God raised him from the dead) but because he was critical of the hypocrisy and corruption of the pharisees and Sanhedrin.
8. Jesus' own family did not believe that he was the messiah or son of God. See John 7:5
9. On many occasions Jesus had to hide each time the Jews sought to harm him. After his so-called resurrection, he fled Israel for good (and met Saul on the road to Damascus) and was never seen or heard of again in the land of Israel.
10. If indeed Jesus was the way, the truth and the life, billions of unbelievers would go to hell. How then can one say that God is merciful when He doesn't seem to understand what forgiveness is! James and Jesus understood this better than the 4 unknown gospel writers, Peter, Paul and John.
11. Jesus could perform no miracles: Mark 6:5 - And he could there do no mighty work. Matthew 13:58: “And he did not do many miracles there because of their unbelief.” All of Jesus' miracles are myths!
12. Matthew 10:34-36 - "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household." Matthew 10:34-36 are heinous understatements Jesus made: As the purported Son of God, he did not foresee how his teachings would lead to the Holy Crusades and contribute to the Church's 1500 years of burning of people they consider heretics, apostates, blasphemers, and no less, the Jews for killing Jesus.
13. The gospel of Jesus was the gospel of Paul! He wrote most of the New Testament and his doctrines determine the doctrines in the 4 gospels.
14. The council at Nicaea chose the books that now make up the New Testaments. It rejected several other gospels, not least those that do not emphasize or speak of Jesus' resurrection.
15. Biblical characters in the Old Testament resorted to violence, trickery or deception to achieve their desired goals e.g. Kane killed Abel; Jacob deceived Isaac into believing he was Esau; Laban tricked Jacob into marrying Leah; David sent Uriah Heep into the thickest part of a battle so he would be killed and he could then marry Bathsheba; Peter and Paul offered money to the church at Jerusalem in the hope that James (then the leader at the church of Jerusalem) would be more amendable to their belief that Gentile could be part of the church without having to undergo Judaic rites (e.g. be circumcised) but James firmly rejected the offer! This circumcision requirement is recorded in Acts 15. My point is: who knows Jesus better and whose version of the gospel should one follow to be saved - James or Paul?
16. After taking Jesus down from the cross, Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus had to think of an ingenious way to save Jesus upon finding that he was still alive! Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus are 2 men in the New Testament you would want for friends! However, I couldn't help but wonder: is Joseph of Arimathea the itinerant Joseph of Bethlehem, Nazareth and Capernaum for who else may claim Jesus' body unless he were a close relative if not the father?
17. Look at the names of Jesus and his 4 brothers - James(aka Jacob); Joseph (aka Joses); Judah (aka Judas/Jude); Jesus (aka Joshua); and Simone. The order in which these names first appear in the book of Genesis suggests that James was the first-born; Joseph was the second; Judah was third; Jesus was fourth; and Simone, last! That would be the likely order when a Jew so wishes to name his 5 sons! If this is the case, then Jesus wasn't born of a virgin! In any case, human virgin birth has never before been witnessed.
18. Acts 1:9 -11 says of Jesus that 'a cloud received him out of their sight' into heaven. This is a violation of the laws of gravity. Further, without rocket-assisted propulsion, I doubt if after near-2000 years, Jesus has made it beyond Pluto!
I am a born-again atheist. I seek only to know the truth. Years of pondering on the bible led me to my hypothesis that Jesus survived the cross. He would be appalled at what he and the Church had wittingly and/or unwittingly done!
I rest my case.